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My brother in law and closest friend (fellow woodworker) suffered a massive brain bleed back in September. Anyway he is currently in a skilled nursing facility and will probably be coming home in June. This will be tough on his wife financially as there are a lot of things that need to be done to accommodate his needs. Plus, he was the primary bread winner, and he is only 55 so she could be looking a a LOT of years of care.

So, I was thinking; what if I made something and either raffled it or auctioned it off to help raise funds for her? I was looking around online but not really finding what I need. Also, how would people know I was legit? Has anybody done this sort of thing with something they have made? Any suggestions?

I could use the web site I made her (http://www.careformel.org) to advertise it, but they don't really have a huge number of people visiting it.

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Jim,

Sorry to hear about your BIL's condition. A number of our woodworkers
have contributed items to charities and non-profits to raise cash for
that organization. Perhaps the best thing to do would be to contact a
non-profit that might fit in with your BIL's condition and see if THEY
would hold the auction.

Another thing would be to use ETSY.Com where people sell all sorts of
handmade items.

And finally, I don't know what your expecting to get for your piece,
but given what expenses might have to made with your BIL's care, and
his family's needs, unless you're an exquisite woodworker, you might
find that the public might not value that item as much as you'd hope.
I would try to use the non-profit route. They have the mailing lists,
publicity contacts, etc. that would spread the news of the auction
widely.

Best of luck.

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My brother in law and closest friend (fellow woodworker) suffered a massive brain bleed back in September. Anyway he is currently in a skilled nursing facility and will probably be coming home in June. This will be tough on his wife financially as there are a lot of things that need to be done to accommodate his needs. Plus, he was the primary bread winner, and he is only 55 so she could be looking a a LOT of years of care.

So, I was thinking; what if I made something and either raffled it or auctioned it off to help raise funds for her? I was looking around online but not really finding what I need. Also, how would people know I was legit? Has anybody done this sort of thing with something they have made? Any suggestions?

I could use the web site I made her (http://www.careformel.org) to advertise it, but they don't really have a huge number of people visiting it.


If you know some folks online and particularly in social networking
sites, you might want to consider doing this for them:

http://www.giveforward.com

A family friend set up a medical fund at that site for my youngest
daughter, 27, and has raised $4k+ in the space of a couple of weeks to
help her pay for experimental drugs to treat a rare, disfiguring disease
that the insurance company will not pay.

She is pretty much overwhelmed with the support she has received from
that quarter, and it has proven to be a godsend for both her morale, and
well as helping pay her bills.

I think they take a 10% fee, but the donor can also pay that if they wish.

If you want to leave no stone unturned for your BIL, give it a shot, and
then let _everyone_ know about it. There's a lot of generous folks out
there ...

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On Wednesday, February 27, 2013 7:54:52 PM UTC-5, Swingman wrote:
On 2/27/2013 6:03 PM, jtpr wrote:

My brother in law and closest friend (fellow woodworker) suffered a massive brain bleed back in September. Anyway he is currently in a skilled nursing facility and will probably be coming home in June. This will be tough on his wife financially as there are a lot of things that need to be done to accommodate his needs. Plus, he was the primary bread winner, and he is only 55 so she could be looking a a LOT of years of care.




So, I was thinking; what if I made something and either raffled it or auctioned it off to help raise funds for her? I was looking around online but not really finding what I need. Also, how would people know I was legit? Has anybody done this sort of thing with something they have made? Any suggestions?




I could use the web site I made her (http://www.careformel.org) to advertise it, but they don't really have a huge number of people visiting it.




If you know some folks online and particularly in social networking

sites, you might want to consider doing this for them:



http://www.giveforward.com



A family friend set up a medical fund at that site for my youngest

daughter, 27, and has raised $4k+ in the space of a couple of weeks to

help her pay for experimental drugs to treat a rare, disfiguring disease

that the insurance company will not pay.



She is pretty much overwhelmed with the support she has received from

that quarter, and it has proven to be a godsend for both her morale, and

well as helping pay her bills.



I think they take a 10% fee, but the donor can also pay that if they wish..



If you want to leave no stone unturned for your BIL, give it a shot, and

then let _everyone_ know about it. There's a lot of generous folks out

there ...



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Actually I did do that just the other day (http://www.giveforward.com/careformel).

But now I'm not sure where to go with it. I mean we let people know in his original circle when I set up the website and most either gave something or helped out in some other way. But none of these are wealthy people and I feel odd using this Giveforward site to solicit more. So I heard about regarding another cause and looked it up and created the page, then kind of hit a wall as to how to get it out there. Maybe I could use it as sort of a second phase, his coming home. I guess where I'm going is trying to reach out beyond the people in his immediate world. I just don't want to see him in nursing home the rest of his life, the cost of which would probably cause his wife to lose the house. Better he come home and she can care for him with some help. Damn guy is 6'5" and hard to move around;+}
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Swingman wrote in
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On 2/27/2013 6:03 PM, jtpr wrote:
My brother in law and closest friend (fellow woodworker) suffered a
massive brain bleed back in September. Anyway he is currently in a
skilled nursing facility and will probably be coming home in June.
This will be tough on his wife financially as there are a lot of
things that need to be done to accommodate his needs. Plus, he was
the primary bread winner, and he is only 55 so she could be looking a
a LOT of years of care.

So, I was thinking; what if I made something and either raffled it or
auctioned it off to help raise funds for her? I was looking around
online but not really finding what I need. Also, how would people
know I was legit? Has anybody done this sort of thing with something
they have made? Any suggestions?

I could use the web site I made her (http://www.careformel.org) to
advertise it, but they don't really have a huge number of people
visiting it.


If you know some folks online and particularly in social networking
sites, you might want to consider doing this for them:

http://www.giveforward.com

A family friend set up a medical fund at that site for my youngest
daughter, 27, and has raised $4k+ in the space of a couple of weeks to
help her pay for experimental drugs to treat a rare, disfiguring
disease that the insurance company will not pay.

She is pretty much overwhelmed with the support she has received from
that quarter, and it has proven to be a godsend for both her morale,
and well as helping pay her bills.

I think they take a 10% fee, but the donor can also pay that if they
wish.

If you want to leave no stone unturned for your BIL, give it a shot,
and then let _everyone_ know about it. There's a lot of generous folks
out there ...


I don't mind giving for causes like this. What is your giveforward site,
Karl?

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On Wednesday, February 27, 2013 7:54:52 PM UTC-5, Swingman wrote:
On 2/27/2013 6:03 PM, jtpr wrote:

My brother in law and closest friend (fellow woodworker) suffered a
mas

sive brain bleed back in September. Anyway he is currently in a
skilled nursing facility and will probably be coming home in June.
This will be tough on his wife financially as there are a lot of
things that need to be done to accommodate his needs. Plus, he was
the primary bread winner, and he is only 55 so she could be looking a
a LOT of years of care.



So, I was thinking; what if I made something and either raffled it
or a

uctioned it off to help raise funds for her? I was looking around
online but not really finding what I need. Also, how would people
know I was legit? Has anybody done this sort of thing with something
they have made? Any suggestions?



I could use the web site I made her (http://www.careformel.org) to
adve

rtise it, but they don't really have a huge number of people visiting
it.



If you know some folks online and particularly in social networking

sites, you might want to consider doing this for them:



http://www.giveforward.com



A family friend set up a medical fund at that site for my youngest

daughter, 27, and has raised $4k+ in the space of a couple of weeks
to

help her pay for experimental drugs to treat a rare, disfiguring
disease



that the insurance company will not pay.



She is pretty much overwhelmed with the support she has received from

that quarter, and it has proven to be a godsend for both her morale,
and



well as helping pay her bills.



I think they take a 10% fee, but the donor can also pay that if they
wish

.



If you want to leave no stone unturned for your BIL, give it a shot,
and



then let _everyone_ know about it. There's a lot of generous folks
out

there ...



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Actually I did do that just the other day
(http://www.giveforward.com/careformel).

But now I'm not sure where to go with it. I mean we let people know
in his original circle when I set up the website and most either gave
something or helped out in some other way. But none of these are
wealthy people and I feel odd using this Giveforward site to solicit
more. So I heard about regarding another cause and looked it up and
created the page, then kind of hit a wall as to how to get it out
there. Maybe I could use it as sort of a second phase, his coming
home. I guess where I'm going is trying to reach out beyond the
people in his immediate world. I just don't want to see him in
nursing home the rest of his life, the cost of which would probably
cause his wife to lose the house. Better he come home and she can
care for him with some help. Damn guy is 6'5" and hard to move
around;+}


Put it on FB ...

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On 2/27/2013 8:54 PM, Han wrote:

I don't mind giving for causes like this. What is your giveforward site,
Karl?


Actually, I found out about it after the fact, Han. It was setup without
my input, or her knowledge, by a family friend, strictly for her
benefit. She's very independent and had a problem with accepting it at
first, but the reality of her bills piling up so fast has tempered that
reluctance. Just so you know, this young lady has lived with this since
birth (with a wise and kind inner strength beyond her years), had to
recently undergo surgery to save her eyesight and, despite being dealt a
'tough row to hoe' in life for young woman (it took fifteen years of
research and a team of doctors to diagnose and decide upon a treatment,
which may or may not work), has never failed a self imposed obligation
to help those even less fortunate by volunteering, since her early teens
to help children with disabilities at MD Anderson here in Houston. She
is driven to do this for those kids, and who better than someone who can
empathize with persona experience? AAMOF, while currently undergoing
this experimental treatment, which is so debilitating that many who
embark upon on it stay in bed for the entire year of its course, or
quit, she has the fortitude to both continue to work, as well as to be
back in school working on an Education Certificate to better teach kids
with disabilities ... if anyone is worthy ... nuff said.

So, since you asked:

http://www.giveforward.com/michellec... b_ref=690176

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On 2/27/2013 8:54 PM, Han wrote:

I don't mind giving for causes like this. What is your giveforward
site, Karl?


Actually, I found out about it after the fact, Han. It was setup
without my input, or her knowledge, by a family friend, strictly for
her benefit. She's very independent and had a problem with accepting
it at first, but the reality of her bills piling up so fast has
tempered that reluctance. Just so you know, this young lady has lived
with this since birth (with a wise and kind inner strength beyond her
years), had to recently undergo surgery to save her eyesight and,
despite being dealt a 'tough row to hoe' in life for young woman (it
took fifteen years of research and a team of doctors to diagnose and
decide upon a treatment, which may or may not work), has never failed
a self imposed obligation to help those even less fortunate by
volunteering, since her early teens to help children with disabilities
at MD Anderson here in Houston. She is driven to do this for those
kids, and who better than someone who can empathize with persona
experience? AAMOF, while currently undergoing this experimental
treatment, which is so debilitating that many who embark upon on it
stay in bed for the entire year of its course, or quit, she has the
fortitude to both continue to work, as well as to be back in school
working on an Education Certificate to better teach kids with
disabilities ... if anyone is worthy ... nuff said.

So, since you asked:

http://www.giveforward.com/michellec...tm_source=face
book&utm_medium=fb_wall&utm_campaign=hug&og_action =hug&fb_ref=690176

I had tried searching on your last name at the main site, without seeing
a result. Hence my question.

The costs of these treatments (even for a long-known and long-used
compound such as interferon) is beyond what regular people can sustain.
I hope my little contribution will help.

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I had tried searching on your last name at the main site, without seeing
a result. Hence my question.


I noticed that myself ... it's kinda out of my hands, but I did mention
it to Linda to bring it up to the friend who is administering the site.
(I'm not real comfortable with the concept myself, but it is neither my
call, nor my decision)

The costs of these treatments (even for a long-known and long-used
compound such as interferon) is beyond what regular people can sustain.
I hope my little contribution will help.


I'll pass that on, and hereby Thank You for her, Han. It's like grains
of sand ... combined, they can make a beach.

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I'll pass that on, and hereby Thank You for her, Han. It's like grains
of sand ... combined, they can make a beach.


You are right about that Karl - grains of sand. We help out on an ongoing
basis, with a friend who has a child with OI. He's 15 now and has broken
bones well over 200 times now. It's a very frustrating life for him since
he can't do what everyone else does - simply getting up or a trival bump can
and does result in a broken bone. But - you do what you can, when you can,
and hope it helps.

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On 2/28/2013 11:45 AM, Mike Marlow wrote:
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I'll pass that on, and hereby Thank You for her, Han. It's like grains
of sand ... combined, they can make a beach.


You are right about that Karl - grains of sand. We help out on an ongoing
basis, with a friend who has a child with OI. He's 15 now and has broken
bones well over 200 times now. It's a very frustrating life for him since
he can't do what everyone else does - simply getting up or a trival bump can
and does result in a broken bone. But - you do what you can, when you can,
and hope it helps.


My prayers for the child and the parents. It tough on both, but to have
a wounded puppy, with little hope of ultimate resolution ... that's hard
to express/put into words.

It's when a child handles a disability with all the grace and wisdom
worthy of a Solomon, and an inherent desire to go out of their way to be
kind and considerate to those even less fortunate, that makes you
realize just how lucky you are, despite the circumstances.

You gotta, know Mike, that what you continue to do, and have done, means
the world to all of them. Bless you and your family for it.

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I'll pass that on, and hereby Thank You for her, Han. It's like
grains of sand ... combined, they can make a beach.


You are right about that Karl - grains of sand. We help out on an
ongoing basis, with a friend who has a child with OI. He's 15 now and
has broken bones well over 200 times now. It's a very frustrating
life for him since he can't do what everyone else does - simply
getting up or a trival bump can and does result in a broken bone. But
- you do what you can, when you can, and hope it helps.


We lived next to the mother of a true pioneer of American law, Paul
Hearne, who was instrumental in passing the Americans with Disabilities
act. He had OI too. A wonderful, loving and dear person who succumbed
to the horrible disease at 48.

I'll be thinking of your friend's boy. Paul's life story and
accomplishments should be an inspiration for his parents and him.
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On 2013-02-28 12:37 PM, Han wrote:
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On 2/27/2013 8:54 PM, Han wrote:

I don't mind giving for causes like this. What is your giveforward
site, Karl?


Actually, I found out about it after the fact, Han. It was setup
without my input, or her knowledge, by a family friend, strictly for
her benefit. She's very independent and had a problem with accepting
it at first, but the reality of her bills piling up so fast has
tempered that reluctance. Just so you know, this young lady has lived
with this since birth (with a wise and kind inner strength beyond her
years), had to recently undergo surgery to save her eyesight and,
despite being dealt a 'tough row to hoe' in life for young woman (it
took fifteen years of research and a team of doctors to diagnose and
decide upon a treatment, which may or may not work), has never failed
a self imposed obligation to help those even less fortunate by
volunteering, since her early teens to help children with disabilities
at MD Anderson here in Houston. She is driven to do this for those
kids, and who better than someone who can empathize with persona
experience? AAMOF, while currently undergoing this experimental
treatment, which is so debilitating that many who embark upon on it
stay in bed for the entire year of its course, or quit, she has the
fortitude to both continue to work, as well as to be back in school
working on an Education Certificate to better teach kids with
disabilities ... if anyone is worthy ... nuff said.

So, since you asked:

http://www.giveforward.com/michellec...tm_source=face
book&utm_medium=fb_wall&utm_campaign=hug&og_action =hug&fb_ref=690176

I had tried searching on your last name at the main site, without seeing
a result. Hence my question.

The costs of these (even for a long-known and long-used
compound such as interferon) is beyond what regular people can sustain.
I hope my little contribution will help.


+1

another grain of sand

brian


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+1

another grain of sand

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Wow! ...Actually, Michelle is at the hospital as we speak getting one of
those weekly shots administered (done late in the evening on Thursday
and Friday so she at least has the weekend to crash) ... I texted her an
update based on your above and her exact words: "You have no idea how
much that means ... and Thank all of them for me!"

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+1




another grain of sand




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Wow! ...Actually, Michelle is at the hospital as we speak getting one of

those weekly shots administered (done late in the evening on Thursday

and Friday so she at least has the weekend to crash) ... I texted her an

update based on your above and her exact words: "You have no idea how

much that means ... and Thank all of them for me!"



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Mel received a couple of donations to his site the day after I posted my original question. Funny how these things affect somebody but it actually made me cry to think people that I have never even met would take not only the funds but the time to do this.

You all touched me very deeply with your donations. But I cannot tell you the effect this will have on Mel's wife. She has been totally dedicated to him throughout this ordeal, spending 6-8 hours a day with him, every day, in hospitals and now a nursing home. The staff has told her that many spouses in this situation actually walk away from it. I have been married to her sister for 32 years, and never knew what inner strength she had. Her overwhelming fear at this point is how she will care for him once he get's home. I can help build the mechanics of it, but the day to day is just too much to think about.

Anyway, thank you so much for the donations and the thoughts, you have renewed my faith in people.

Your advice was good, I'm going to pursue that website.

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On Thu, 28 Feb 2013 19:58:32 -0600, Swingman wrote:

On 2/28/2013 7:12 PM, Brian Hoyt wrote:


+1

another grain of sand

brian


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Wow! ...Actually, Michelle is at the hospital as we speak getting one of
those weekly shots administered (done late in the evening on Thursday
and Friday so she at least has the weekend to crash) ... I texted her an
update based on your above and her exact words: "You have no idea how
much that means ... and Thank all of them for me!"


and another grain, I appreciate all that you post here.
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Anyway, thank you so much for the donations and the thoughts, you have renewed my faith in people.


And likewise ...

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On 2/28/2013 11:07 PM, Mike M wrote:

and another grain, I appreciate all that you post here.


That's a bucketful, Bubba!

Thank you, Mike. Shot #6/208 last night, #7 tonight. Ya gotta know how
much seeing those donations yesterday meant to her in facing the
remaining 207.

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On 2/28/2013 10:20 PM, jtpr wrote:

You all touched me very deeply with your donations. But I cannot tell you the effect this will have on Mel's wife.


You just got to the very heart of the matter with that last above, Jim.

From what I can tell, and having just been given the opportunity to
observe the effect of a gift/donation on the recipient, it has made me
understand that the monetary element, regardless of the size and while
of necessary importance, turns out to be about half the benefit.

These folks are sick, or tired, or both, and their energy levels and
ability to carry on are being taxed to the utmost.

When seeing folks, sometimes complete strangers, willing to help _them_,
you observe in the recipient the other half of that gift of kindness and
generosity: a renewed energy to carry on.

Gives that old saying, "The milk of human kindness.", a new meaning and
understanding, eh?

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Wow! ...Actually, Michelle is at the hospital as we speak getting one
of those weekly shots administered (done late in the evening on
Thursday and Friday so she at least has the weekend to crash) ... I
texted her an update based on your above and her exact words: "You
have no idea how much that means ... and Thank all of them for me!"


Makes me feel even better now!

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and another grain, I appreciate all that you post here.


That's a bucketful, Bubba!

Thank you, Mike. Shot #6/208 last night, #7 tonight. Ya gotta know how
much seeing those donations yesterday meant to her in facing the
remaining 207.


Karl, you know how much continuing communication has helped Rob & Angela,
and I am now referring to Facebook in large part. May I suggest that M
does something like that? At least I would not mind encouraging her on FB,
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Karl, you know how much continuing communication has helped Rob & Angela,
and I am now referring to Facebook in large part. May I suggest that M
does something like that? At least I would not mind encouraging her on FB,
if (and only if) she so desires.


As far as I know she, and all her college friends, shut down their FB
accounts a couple of years back.

She was on Facebook when you and I were saying "Face ..what??", but
apparently many of this particular age group no longer use Facebook
(probably because us old fogies started using it?) and, I"m guessing
here, have moved to Twitter?

Thus far I have found no reason, personal or business wise, to succumb
to "tweeting" ... too busy chasing kids off my lawn.

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On 3/1/2013 9:50 AM, Han wrote:

Karl, you know how much continuing communication has helped Rob &
Angela, and I am now referring to Facebook in large part. May I
suggest that M does something like that? At least I would not mind
encouraging her on FB, if (and only if) she so desires.


As far as I know she, and all her college friends, shut down their FB
accounts a couple of years back.

She was on Facebook when you and I were saying "Face ..what??", but
apparently many of this particular age group no longer use Facebook
(probably because us old fogies started using it?) and, I"m guessing
here, have moved to Twitter?

Thus far I have found no reason, personal or business wise, to succumb
to "tweeting" ... too busy chasing kids off my lawn.


I'm just lurking on twitter ...
What's a lawn?? My spouse claims she has the rights to the outside, and
is steadily diminishing the area where there are still weeds growing ...

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Thus far I have found no reason, personal or business wise, to succumb
to "tweeting" ... too busy chasing kids off my lawn.


I'm just lurking on twitter ...
What's a lawn?? My spouse claims she has the rights to the outside, and
is steadily diminishing the area where there are still weeds growing ...


Ask -MIKE- ...

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On Fri, 01 Mar 2013 07:02:19 -0600, Swingman wrote:

On 2/28/2013 11:07 PM, Mike M wrote:

and another grain, I appreciate all that you post here.


That's a bucketful, Bubba!

Thank you, Mike. Shot #6/208 last night, #7 tonight. Ya gotta know how
much seeing those donations yesterday meant to her in facing the
remaining 207.


Glad I could help. I've been fortunate but truely try to look after
others. One never knows when one may be in need. I've mentioned my
legs being shattered so I do understand what looking at a long healing
process takes. It is a full time job. Some day maybe the medical
field will be all about healing and not profit. Now I sound
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Swingman wrote in
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On 3/1/2013 9:50 AM, Han wrote:

Karl, you know how much continuing communication has helped Rob &
Angela, and I am now referring to Facebook in large part. May I
suggest that M does something like that? At least I would not mind
encouraging her on FB, if (and only if) she so desires.


As far as I know she, and all her college friends, shut down their FB
accounts a couple of years back.

She was on Facebook when you and I were saying "Face ..what??", but
apparently many of this particular age group no longer use Facebook
(probably because us old fogies started using it?) and, I"m guessing
here, have moved to Twitter?

Thus far I have found no reason, personal or business wise, to succumb
to "tweeting" ... too busy chasing kids off my lawn.


I'm just lurking on twitter ...
What's a lawn?? My spouse claims she has the rights to the outside, and
is steadily diminishing the area where there are still weeds growing ...


My sister knows how I hate lawns and sent me a copy of her friend's
book for Christmas. It was -so- fresh off the presses (several days)
that I've had to let the ink air out for awhile. It looks like a real
keeper but I haven't yet read it. Perhaps your wife would like a
copy, too. http://tinyurl.com/bzfa6bk (not yet available at Amazon)

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All the nice things Karl said about his young daughter cut it short to
me. Having met her and talked with her she is one of the sweetest,
nicest young ladies I have met in a long time. She really impressed
my significant other with these same qualities, and that doesn't
happen much.

Kathy and me have had the pleasure and privilege of staying in Karl's
house with him and his lovely wife and their noisy puppies for the
last three years now. That is how I met Michelle. She is charmingly
shy, and never has there been a time when we visiting that she wasn't
respectful and polite to her parents. We visit at Christmas time, and
as Karl said, besides her employed work she has always seemed to be
working on a couple of projects to help others in need enjoy the
season.

Having just finished a prolonged illness with a family member, I think
it is also important to remember how important the support group is
around the person victimized by illness. I can't imagine how hard
this is for Karl and Linda, but then I can't imagine having a better
team around Michelle than Karl and Linda.

With all that in mind Karl, Kathy and I sending all the positive
energy and prayers we can to all three of you. Please tell Michelle
she is in our thoughts, to be strong, and that we are looking forward
to seeing all of you soon.

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On 01 Mar 2013 16:20:16 GMT, Han wrote:

Swingman wrote in
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On 3/1/2013 9:50 AM, Han wrote:

Karl, you know how much continuing communication has helped Rob &
Angela, and I am now referring to Facebook in large part. May I
suggest that M does something like that? At least I would not mind
encouraging her on FB, if (and only if) she so desires.

As far as I know she, and all her college friends, shut down their
FB accounts a couple of years back.

She was on Facebook when you and I were saying "Face ..what??", but
apparently many of this particular age group no longer use Facebook
(probably because us old fogies started using it?) and, I"m guessing
here, have moved to Twitter?

Thus far I have found no reason, personal or business wise, to
succumb to "tweeting" ... too busy chasing kids off my lawn.


I'm just lurking on twitter ...
What's a lawn?? My spouse claims she has the rights to the outside,
and is steadily diminishing the area where there are still weeds
growing ...


My sister knows how I hate lawns and sent me a copy of her friend's
book for Christmas. It was -so- fresh off the presses (several days)
that I've had to let the ink air out for awhile. It looks like a real
keeper but I haven't yet read it. Perhaps your wife would like a
copy, too. http://tinyurl.com/bzfa6bk (not yet available at Amazon)

The New American Front Yard: Kiss Your Grass Goodbye!


That's the back yard on the cover of the book. The front yard has a bit
of time to get there ...

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All the nice things Karl said about his young daughter cut it short to
me. Having met her and talked with her she is one of the sweetest,
nicest young ladies I have met in a long time. She really impressed
my significant other with these same qualities, and that doesn't
happen much.

Kathy and me have had the pleasure and privilege of staying in Karl's
house with him and his lovely wife and their noisy puppies for the
last three years now. That is how I met Michelle. She is charmingly
shy, and never has there been a time when we visiting that she wasn't
respectful and polite to her parents. We visit at Christmas time, and
as Karl said, besides her employed work she has always seemed to be
working on a couple of projects to help others in need enjoy the
season.

Having just finished a prolonged illness with a family member, I think
it is also important to remember how important the support group is
around the person victimized by illness. I can't imagine how hard
this is for Karl and Linda, but then I can't imagine having a better
team around Michelle than Karl and Linda.

With all that in mind Karl, Kathy and I sending all the positive
energy and prayers we can to all three of you. Please tell Michelle
she is in our thoughts, to be strong, and that we are looking forward
to seeing all of you soon.

Robert


I haven't met anyone in the Caillouet family in person, but admire them
greatly from interactions with Karl, and hearing the respectful way the
treat each other and (most) others. My spouse's family has gone through
a similar disaster, compressed into 5 months, as Robatoyand did and we
know how both families have suffered and persevered. Thankfully Michelle
has a disease that doesn't have the same prognosis (I think), but
nevertheless she will need all the assistance anyone can give. I hope
Karl and Michelle will not forgo to ask for help, virtual, mentaal and
financial.

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My sister knows how I hate lawns and sent me a copy of her friend's
book for Christmas. It was -so- fresh off the presses (several days)
that I've had to let the ink air out for awhile. It looks like a real
keeper but I haven't yet read it. Perhaps your wife would like a
copy, too. http://tinyurl.com/bzfa6bk (not yet available at Amazon)

The New American Front Yard: Kiss Your Grass Goodbye!


That's the back yard on the cover of the book. The front yard has a bit
of time to get there ...



I walk by a number of those around here on a daily basis ... the pup is
not impressed, but I like the idea.

Anything to keep the kids off the lawn, right Radcliffe?? ...

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My sister knows how I hate lawns and sent me a copy of her friend's
book for Christmas. It was -so- fresh off the presses (several
days) that I've had to let the ink air out for awhile. It looks
like a real keeper but I haven't yet read it. Perhaps your wife
would like a copy, too. http://tinyurl.com/bzfa6bk (not yet
available at Amazon)

The New American Front Yard: Kiss Your Grass Goodbye!


That's the back yard on the cover of the book. The front yard has a
bit of time to get there ...



I walk by a number of those around here on a daily basis ... the pup
is not impressed, but I like the idea.

Anything to keep the kids off the lawn, right Radcliffe?? ...


No problems with kids in my yard. Radburn has the parks for the kids.
Each house has the kitchen on the street (mostly cul-de-sac) side, and
another door that leads either directly to the park (ours) or via a
walkway between houses to the park. See http://radburn.org.

Also many people here adher to the village theory: It takes a village to
educate the kids. Very old-fashioned perhaps, but we try to keep it that
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Anything to keep the kids off the lawn, right Radcliffe?? ...


No problems with kids in my yard. Radburn has the parks for the kids.
Each house has the kitchen on the street (mostly cul-de-sac) side, and
another door that leads either directly to the park (ours) or via a
walkway between houses to the park. See http://radburn.org.

Also many people here adher to the village theory: It takes a village to
educate the kids. Very old-fashioned perhaps, but we try to keep it that
way.



That's a grouchy old man joke, Han. Traditionally something old men are
always yelling at the neighborhood kids:

http://www.urbandictionary.com/defin...et+off+my+lawn

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Anything to keep the kids off the lawn, right Radcliffe?? ...


No problems with kids in my yard. Radburn has the parks for the
kids. Each house has the kitchen on the street (mostly cul-de-sac)
side, and another door that leads either directly to the park (ours)
or via a walkway between houses to the park. See http://radburn.org.

Also many people here adher to the village theory: It takes a
village to educate the kids. Very old-fashioned perhaps, but we try
to keep it that way.



That's a grouchy old man joke, Han. Traditionally something old men
are always yelling at the neighborhood kids:

http://www.urbandictionary.com/defin...et+off+my+lawn


Yes, but I'd like a penny for every time it happened for real in the US.
Just for a week, or maybe just a day. Could use it to help feed some
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On 3/2/2013 11:02 AM, Han wrote:
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Anything to keep the kids off the lawn, right Radcliffe?? ...

No problems with kids in my yard. Radburn has the parks for the
kids. Each house has the kitchen on the street (mostly cul-de-sac)
side, and another door that leads either directly to the park (ours)
or via a walkway between houses to the park. See http://radburn.org.

Also many people here adher to the village theory: It takes a
village to educate the kids. Very old-fashioned perhaps, but we try
to keep it that way.



That's a grouchy old man joke, Han. Traditionally something old men
are always yelling at the neighborhood kids:

http://www.urbandictionary.com/defin...et+off+my+lawn


Yes, but I'd like a penny for every time it happened for real in the US.
Just for a week, or maybe just a day. Could use it to help feed some
hungry people ...


Truth were told, I'm the first one in the yard playing with them,
especially if they have a remote controlled helicopter, airplane, or car
.... my depression era parents refused to spring for an electric train.

Not kidding, until I gave it one of the kids, I kept a remote controlled
jeep in the shop just to tease both the neighbor's kids, and the dogs,
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Swingman wrote in
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On 3/2/2013 11:02 AM, Han wrote:
Swingman wrote in

Anything to keep the kids off the lawn, right Radcliffe?? ...

No problems with kids in my yard. Radburn has the parks for the
kids. Each house has the kitchen on the street (mostly cul-de-sac)
side, and another door that leads either directly to the park
(ours) or via a walkway between houses to the park. See
http://radburn.org.

Also many people here adher to the village theory: It takes a
village to educate the kids. Very old-fashioned perhaps, but we
try to keep it that way.


That's a grouchy old man joke, Han. Traditionally something old men
are always yelling at the neighborhood kids:

http://www.urbandictionary.com/defin...et+off+my+lawn


Yes, but I'd like a penny for every time it happened for real in the
US. Just for a week, or maybe just a day. Could use it to help feed
some hungry people ...


Truth were told, I'm the first one in the yard playing with them,
especially if they have a remote controlled helicopter, airplane, or
car ... my depression era parents refused to spring for an electric
train.

Not kidding, until I gave it one of the kids, I kept a remote
controlled jeep in the shop just to tease both the neighbor's kids,
and the dogs, with mysterious, unmanned drive-bys.


I had a wind-up spring-powered Märklin trainset as a kid. Laid trak all
over the attic, and let it plunge down in the stair well more times than
I'd care to remember. Gave left-over pieces to a friend/trainbuff.

I did model rockets with my kids. My son now does some with his. Never
went for the RC cars etc. Too expensive, not enough opporetunity to let
them roam here. Waiting for really affordable quadracopters grin.

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On 3/1/2013 7:38 AM, Swingman wrote:
On 2/28/2013 10:20 PM, jtpr wrote:

You all touched me very deeply with your donations. But I cannot tell
you the effect this will have on Mel's wife.


You just got to the very heart of the matter with that last above, Jim.

From what I can tell, and having just been given the opportunity to
observe the effect of a gift/donation on the recipient, it has made me
understand that the monetary element, regardless of the size and while
of necessary importance, turns out to be about half the benefit.

These folks are sick, or tired, or both, and their energy levels and
ability to carry on are being taxed to the utmost.

When seeing folks, sometimes complete strangers, willing to help _them_,
you observe in the recipient the other half of that gift of kindness and
generosity: a renewed energy to carry on.

Gives that old saying, "The milk of human kindness.", a new meaning and
understanding, eh?


Reason for some very cautious optimism today with regard to my youngest
daughter. Too early to be jumping for joy, but after a month of
Interferon treatment, an MRI yesterday (yep, on Easter Sunday) indicated
that tumors appear to be slowly regressing, and that bone growth is
progressing.

Once again, thanks to all of you here who donated on her behalf, can't
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On 4/1/2013 6:14 PM, Swingman wrote:
On 3/1/2013 7:38 AM, Swingman wrote:
On 2/28/2013 10:20 PM, jtpr wrote:

You all touched me very deeply with your donations. But I cannot tell
you the effect this will have on Mel's wife.


You just got to the very heart of the matter with that last above, Jim.

From what I can tell, and having just been given the opportunity to
observe the effect of a gift/donation on the recipient, it has made me
understand that the monetary element, regardless of the size and while
of necessary importance, turns out to be about half the benefit.

These folks are sick, or tired, or both, and their energy levels and
ability to carry on are being taxed to the utmost.

When seeing folks, sometimes complete strangers, willing to help _them_,
you observe in the recipient the other half of that gift of kindness and
generosity: a renewed energy to carry on.

Gives that old saying, "The milk of human kindness.", a new meaning and
understanding, eh?


Reason for some very cautious optimism today with regard to my youngest
daughter. Too early to be jumping for joy, but after a month of
Interferon treatment, an MRI yesterday (yep, on Easter Sunday) indicated
that tumors appear to be slowly regressing, and that bone growth is
progressing.

Once again, thanks to all of you here who donated on her behalf, can't
tell you how much that means to all of us.



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Reason for some very cautious optimism today with regard to my
youngest daughter. Too early to be jumping for joy, but after a
month of Interferon treatment, an MRI yesterday (yep, on Easter
Sunday) indicated that tumors appear to be slowly regressing, and
that bone growth is progressing.

Once again, thanks to all of you here who donated on her behalf,
can't tell you how much that means to all of us.

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Swingman wrote in
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On 3/1/2013 7:38 AM, Swingman wrote:
On 2/28/2013 10:20 PM, jtpr wrote:

You all touched me very deeply with your donations. But I cannot
tell you the effect this will have on Mel's wife.


You just got to the very heart of the matter with that last above,
Jim.

From what I can tell, and having just been given the opportunity to
observe the effect of a gift/donation on the recipient, it has made
me understand that the monetary element, regardless of the size and
while of necessary importance, turns out to be about half the
benefit.

These folks are sick, or tired, or both, and their energy levels and
ability to carry on are being taxed to the utmost.

When seeing folks, sometimes complete strangers, willing to help
_them_, you observe in the recipient the other half of that gift of
kindness and generosity: a renewed energy to carry on.

Gives that old saying, "The milk of human kindness.", a new meaning
and understanding, eh?


Reason for some very cautious optimism today with regard to my
youngest daughter. Too early to be jumping for joy, but after a month
of Interferon treatment, an MRI yesterday (yep, on Easter Sunday)
indicated that tumors appear to be slowly regressing, and that bone
growth is progressing.

Once again, thanks to all of you here who donated on her behalf, can't
tell you how much that means to all of us.


Wonderful news!! Sorry she had to suffer the interferon therapy, but it
is the good result that she'll remember mostly, soon anyway!

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On Mon, 01 Apr 2013 18:14:02 -0500, Swingman wrote:

On 3/1/2013 7:38 AM, Swingman wrote:
On 2/28/2013 10:20 PM, jtpr wrote:

You all touched me very deeply with your donations. But I cannot tell
you the effect this will have on Mel's wife.


You just got to the very heart of the matter with that last above, Jim.

From what I can tell, and having just been given the opportunity to
observe the effect of a gift/donation on the recipient, it has made me
understand that the monetary element, regardless of the size and while
of necessary importance, turns out to be about half the benefit.

These folks are sick, or tired, or both, and their energy levels and
ability to carry on are being taxed to the utmost.

When seeing folks, sometimes complete strangers, willing to help _them_,
you observe in the recipient the other half of that gift of kindness and
generosity: a renewed energy to carry on.

Gives that old saying, "The milk of human kindness.", a new meaning and
understanding, eh?


Reason for some very cautious optimism today with regard to my youngest
daughter. Too early to be jumping for joy, but after a month of
Interferon treatment, an MRI yesterday (yep, on Easter Sunday) indicated
that tumors appear to be slowly regressing, and that bone growth is
progressing.

Once again, thanks to all of you here who donated on her behalf, can't
tell you how much that means to all of us.


Happy to hear that. It would be nice if there was a way to contribute
and have it tax deductible. I've gone 4 years now with out paying
income tax, and I enjoy not paying into the Ponzi scheme anymore then
necessary. Just a thought but might help her raise more money.

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