Anybody here have any experience getting appliance repair
(refrigerator, clothes washer/dryer, dishwasher) from either Lowe's
or Home Depot. I will be in the market for a low-end top loading
clothes washer such as this


http://www.homedepot.com/p/Maytag-Centennial-3-6-cu-ft-High-Efficiency-Top-Load-Washer-in-White-ENERGY-STAR-MVWC360AW/203667281#.UtPzDvu3MS4

in the next year, and I was wondering what happens if it ever needs
service. I've never purchased an appliance from them.

Do they offer appliance service? Is it any good?

Thanks
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On 01/13/2014 08:08 AM, CRNG wrote:
Anybody here have any experience getting appliance repair
(refrigerator, clothes washer/dryer, dishwasher) from either Lowe's
or Home Depot. I will be in the market for a low-end top loading
clothes washer such as this


http://www.homedepot.com/p/Maytag-Centennial-3-6-cu-ft-High-Efficiency-Top-Load-Washer-in-White-ENERGY-STAR-MVWC360AW/203667281#.UtPzDvu3MS4

in the next year, and I was wondering what happens if it ever needs
service. I've never purchased an appliance from them.

Do they offer appliance service? Is it any good?

Thanks




I think they just contract-out locally.

Since it's a Maytag chances are it's not going to need any service. As a
matter of fact it is very rare that any new appliance will need service
for a very long time. Don't waste your money on a service contact...I am
sure they will try to sell you one.


You are also wise to get a low-end unit...the fancy ones with tons of
features you don't need are the ones more likely to have problems.


My Maytag washer has been working fine for 26 years and has needed no
service whatever.

On Mon, 13 Jan 2014 08:45:41 -0600, philo* wrote
in

On 01/13/2014 08:08 AM, CRNG wrote:
Anybody here have any experience getting appliance repair
(refrigerator, clothes washer/dryer, dishwasher) from either Lowe's
or Home Depot. I will be in the market for a low-end top loading
clothes washer such as this


http://www.homedepot.com/p/Maytag-Centennial-3-6-cu-ft-High-Efficiency-Top-Load-Washer-in-White-ENERGY-STAR-MVWC360AW/203667281#.UtPzDvu3MS4

in the next year, and I was wondering what happens if it ever needs
service. I've never purchased an appliance from them.

Do they offer appliance service? Is it any good?

Thanks




I think they just contract-out locally.

Since it's a Maytag chances are it's not going to need any service. As a
matter of fact it is very rare that any new appliance will need service
for a very long time. Don't waste your money on a service contact...I am
sure they will try to sell you one.


You are also wise to get a low-end unit...the fancy ones with tons of
features you don't need are the ones more likely to have problems.


My Maytag washer has been working fine for 26 years and has needed no
service whatever.

Our present unit is an 18 year old Maytag. It never needed service
until about 4 years ago when the drive belts needed to be replaced. I
_think_ the belts need replacing again. Not sure yet. If that is all
it needs, then we won't be needing a replacement washer. I'm just
doing preliminary research now in case we do need a replacement.

Thanks for the comments.
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CRNG wrote:
On Mon, 13 Jan 2014 08:45:41 -0600, philo wrote
in

On 01/13/2014 08:08 AM, CRNG wrote:
Anybody here have any experience getting appliance repair
(refrigerator, clothes washer/dryer, dishwasher) from either Lowe's
or Home Depot. I will be in the market for a low-end top loading
clothes washer such as this


http://www.homedepot.com/p/Maytag-Centennial-3-6-cu-ft-High-Efficiency-Top-Load-Washer-in-White-ENERGY-STAR-MVWC360AW/203667281#.UtPzDvu3MS4

in the next year, and I was wondering what happens if it ever needs
service. I've never purchased an appliance from them.

Do they offer appliance service? Is it any good?

Thanks




I think they just contract-out locally.

Since it's a Maytag chances are it's not going to need any service. As a
matter of fact it is very rare that any new appliance will need service
for a very long time. Don't waste your money on a service contact...I am
sure they will try to sell you one.


You are also wise to get a low-end unit...the fancy ones with tons of
features you don't need are the ones more likely to have problems.


My Maytag washer has been working fine for 26 years and has needed no
service whatever.

Our present unit is an 18 year old Maytag. It never needed service
until about 4 years ago when the drive belts needed to be replaced. I
_think_ the belts need replacing again. Not sure yet. If that is all
it needs, then we won't be needing a replacement washer. I'm just
doing preliminary research now in case we do need a replacement.

Thanks for the comments.

If it is the belts this time, I'd be wondering why the first set lasted 18
years but this set lasted only 4. Is it cheaper belts or is something else
going bad that is wearing out the belts.

On Mon, 13 Jan 2014 08:45:41 -0600, philo* wrote:

Since it's a Maytag chances are it's not going to need any service. As a
matter of fact it is very rare that any new appliance will need service
for a very long time. Don't waste your money on a service contact...I am
sure they will try to sell you one.

I disagree with this advice. In the past Maytag was a fantastic company, it has
since been sold and it's products are no longer superior to any other.

Additionally, with the widespread adoption of digital controls and the
elimination of mechanical, analog controls, appliance failures are far more
common and far more expensive.

I would urge you to buy the simplest appliance you can possibly find, one with
mechanical controls if possible. Always purchase the appliance using a credit
card that doubles the manufacturers warranty (most AMEX and many Visa and
MasterCard) and give serious consideration to an extended warranty. You do not
have to buy them from the point of purchase, in fact you can buy them
separately, saving a great deal of money by shopping around.

In the past, I always advised against extended warranties, but with the digital
control systems being so sensitive, unreliable and obscenely expensive, I
seriously consider the extended coverage, depending upon cost.

One last thought, consider purchasing used appliances on Craigslist. I recently
purchased a legacy Maytag washer via CL for $75. It had been in a storage unit
for years and was in perfect condition. It runs great, looks great and I
suspect it will last for many years, not bad for $75.

On 01/13/2014 09:14 AM, CRNG wrote:
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I think they just contract-out locally.

Since it's a Maytag chances are it's not going to need any service. As a
matter of fact it is very rare that any new appliance will need service
for a very long time. Don't waste your money on a service contact...I am
sure they will try to sell you one.


You are also wise to get a low-end unit...the fancy ones with tons of
features you don't need are the ones more likely to have problems.


My Maytag washer has been working fine for 26 years and has needed no
service whatever.

Our present unit is an 18 year old Maytag. It never needed service
until about 4 years ago when the drive belts needed to be replaced. I
_think_ the belts need replacing again. Not sure yet. If that is all
it needs, then we won't be needing a replacement washer. I'm just
doing preliminary research now in case we do need a replacement.

Thanks for the comments.



Hmm , they must have gone back to belts then. The selling point for mine
was that it was direct drive and uses no belt.

On 1/13/2014 9:08 AM, CRNG wrote:
Anybody here have any experience getting appliance repair
(refrigerator, clothes washer/dryer, dishwasher) from either Lowe's
or Home Depot. I will be in the market for a low-end top loading
clothes washer such as this


http://www.homedepot.com/p/Maytag-Centennial-3-6-cu-ft-High-Efficiency-Top-Load-Washer-in-White-ENERGY-STAR-MVWC360AW/203667281#.UtPzDvu3MS4

in the next year, and I was wondering what happens if it ever needs
service. I've never purchased an appliance from them.

Do they offer appliance service? Is it any good?

Thanks


I have no experience about the service because I've never bought an
appliance from them. My local dealer will meet or beat their price
every time. They also have better service for delivery and
installation than a big box store can offer.

Once the warranty is gone you will do better with a local repair service
anyway.

On Mon, 13 Jan 2014 16:12:41 +0000 (UTC), DerbyDad03
wrote in


Our present unit is an 18 year old Maytag. It never needed service
until about 4 years ago when the drive belts needed to be replaced. I
_think_ the belts need replacing again. Not sure yet. If that is all
it needs, then we won't be needing a replacement washer. I'm just
doing preliminary research now in case we do need a replacement.

Thanks for the comments.

If it is the belts this time, I'd be wondering why the first set lasted 18
years but this set lasted only 4. Is it cheaper belts or is something else
going bad that is wearing out the belts.

Good question. I suspect that the agitator seized up. When the
washer stopped mid-cycle there was a loud squealing (like an stuck
belt on a moving motor pulley). That's why I'm starting to think
about replacing the washer. If the agitator or it's drive assembly is
shot, it probably won't be worth being replaced.
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On Mon, 13 Jan 2014 08:18:56 -0800, Lab Lover wrote in


One last thought, consider purchasing used appliances on Craigslist. I recently
purchased a legacy Maytag washer via CL for $75. It had been in a storage unit
for years and was in perfect condition. It runs great, looks great and I
suspect it will last for many years, not bad for $75.

I like that idea.
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On 01/13/2014 10:34 AM, CRNG wrote:
On Mon, 13 Jan 2014 08:18:56 -0800, Lab Lover wrote in


One last thought, consider purchasing used appliances on Craigslist. I recently
purchased a legacy Maytag washer via CL for $75. It had been in a storage unit
for years and was in perfect condition. It runs great, looks great and I
suspect it will last for many years, not bad for $75.

I like that idea.




I don't know about that. I once purchased a used drier and it only
lasted 25 years.

On 1/13/2014 11:18 AM, Lab Lover wrote:
On Mon, 13 Jan 2014 08:45:41 -0600, philo wrote:

Since it's a Maytag chances are it's not going to need any service. As a
matter of fact it is very rare that any new appliance will need service
for a very long time. Don't waste your money on a service contact...I am
sure they will try to sell you one.

I disagree with this advice. In the past Maytag was a fantastic company, it has
since been sold and it's products are no longer superior to any other.

Additionally, with the widespread adoption of digital controls and the
elimination of mechanical, analog controls, appliance failures are far more
common and far more expensive.

I would urge you to buy the simplest appliance you can possibly find, one with
mechanical controls if possible.


I don't know if you can get mechanical controls

I posted this a few weeks back. Normally, I'm against extended
warranties. I recently bought a Maytag high efficiency machine. It has
a glass top so you can see what is going on. It has water and
temperature sensors. It has many cycle variations, all electronically
controlled. I saw water run in five different places during the cycle.
I saw the tub spin at different speeds and even be stopped with a brake.
This is complex equipment.

It came with the option to buy an additional 5 years of coverage for
$149. I signed up and sent my money. It is $100 for someone to show up
at the door and parts start at $50 and go into the hundreds. Given the
complexity of the machine and the cost for even simple repairs, it seems
to be a good deal.

CRNG wrote in
news
Anybody here have any experience getting appliance repair
(refrigerator, clothes washer/dryer, dishwasher) from either Lowe's
or Home Depot. I will be in the market for a low-end top loading
clothes washer such as this


http://www.homedepot.com/p/Maytag-Ce...igh-Efficiency
-Top-Load-Washer-in-White-ENERGY-STAR-MVWC360AW/203667281#.UtPzDvu3MS4

in the next year, and I was wondering what happens if it ever needs
service. I've never purchased an appliance from them.

Do they offer appliance service? Is it any good?

Thanks

Had one. From Home Depot, Maytag, high efficiency, including that low low
agitator.

Summary: This unit was a pure piece of ****.

Fortunately the buyer got an extended warranty. That kept it alive for
like 4 years. In that time some gear thing blew, the tub cracked (it's
plastic under the covers), the pump housing cracked (it's plastic), the
tub cracked again after the extended warranty ran out. At this point it
was off to be made into pet food cans, shovel heads, etc.

For my area, this company was the service for them:
https://www.aefactoryservice.com/


Replaced with a Speed Queen commercial top loader (laundry minus the coin
slot) with no electronic bull****. All mechanical dials. Local non-chain
appliance store.

Red Green wrote:
CRNG wrote in
news
Anybody here have any experience getting appliance repair
(refrigerator, clothes washer/dryer, dishwasher) from either Lowe's
or Home Depot. I will be in the market for a low-end top loading
clothes washer such as this


http://www.homedepot.com/p/Maytag-Ce...igh-Efficiency
-Top-Load-Washer-in-White-ENERGY-STAR-MVWC360AW/203667281#.UtPzDvu3MS4

in the next year, and I was wondering what happens if it ever needs
service. I've never purchased an appliance from them.

Do they offer appliance service? Is it any good?

Thanks

Had one. From Home Depot, Maytag, high efficiency, including that low low
agitator.

Summary: This unit was a pure piece of ****.

Fortunately the buyer got an extended warranty. That kept it alive for
like 4 years. In that time some gear thing blew, the tub cracked (it's
plastic under the covers), the pump housing cracked (it's plastic), the
tub cracked again after the extended warranty ran out. At this point it
was off to be made into pet food cans, shovel heads, etc.

For my area, this company was the service for them:
https://www.aefactoryservice.com/


Replaced with a Speed Queen commercial top loader (laundry minus the coin
slot) with no electronic bull****. All mechanical dials. Local non-chain
appliance store.

Hi,
HD just subcontract out the repair jobs. When I buy major appliance I go
to a shop who sells and services them themselves. Price maybe little
higher but it is worth it. Owning a small business(source of our pocket
money) often we can get commercial whole sale discount using our
business account.

On Monday, January 13, 2014 8:08:18 AM UTC-6, CRNG wrote:
Anybody here have any experience getting appliance repair

(refrigerator, clothes washer/dryer, dishwasher) from either Lowe's

or Home Depot. I will be in the market for a low-end top loading

clothes washer such as this





http://www.homedepot.com/p/Maytag-Centennial-3-6-cu-ft-High-Efficiency-Top-Load-Washer-in-White-ENERGY-STAR-MVWC360AW/203667281#.UtPzDvu3MS4



in the next year, and I was wondering what happens if it ever needs

service. I've never purchased an appliance from them.



Do they offer appliance service? Is it any good?



Thanks

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they use local contractors so it can't be any worse than calling one from an antique phone book.

On 1/13/2014 9:08 AM, CRNG wrote:
Anybody here have any experience getting appliance repair
(refrigerator, clothes washer/dryer, dishwasher) from either Lowe's
or Home Depot. I will be in the market for a low-end top loading
clothes washer such as this


http://www.homedepot.com/p/Maytag-Centennial-3-6-cu-ft-High-Efficiency-Top-Load-Washer-in-White-ENERGY-STAR-MVWC360AW/203667281#.UtPzDvu3MS4

in the next year, and I was wondering what happens if it ever needs
service. I've never purchased an appliance from them.

Do they offer appliance service? Is it any good?

Thanks


Purchased a range, washer and dryer from Lowes last year...so far, so
good. I think ANY appliance repair is a crap shoot nowadays. Just had
a local appliance repair person come over to work on our ice maker on 7
y/o Frigidaire. Ice maker has quit twice for long periods and then
started up again. Couple of months ago, after not making ice for
several months, it started up on it's own after power came back on after
a power outage of about 2 hours...totally wierd! The power wasn't off
long enough to resolve a freeze-up if that had been the cause. We had
tried turning it off and using hair dryer to thaw the water line
previously to no avail. The water dispenser had been pretty weak, and
the ice maker would cycle but not fill...changed the filter and horsed
around. When I finally called the repair guy, I knew the water pressure
in fridge was low, but they said that would not be the problem.
So...repair guy unhitches the water supply on back of fridge, finds no
ice blockage, rehangs the supply tubing as it was duck-taped onto the
back of the fridge, then went down to basement to check out the saddle
valve! Voila! Almost completely clogged little pin-hole; drilled
larger hole and installed a new saddle valve. Good water supply, ice
trays filling, made ice until the bin was almost full and quit again.
Called the repair guy, left message day before blizzard. Got a call
five days later, but the ice maker had resumed working and continues to
work fine. My theory is that the water tank never filled due to low
pressure so the ice maker didn't get enough pressure to fill?? Or it is
posessed )

CBS news tonight had a spot about appliance repair a la Consumer
Reports. Advised to buy new if the repair bill would be more than half
new purchase price!! Really? F--- that! My parents bought a Philco
fridge about 1955 ... to replace our ice box ... and it was still
working in 2005. Something like 40% of refrigerators need repair
withing 4 years. Damn crooked mfgs...

On 1/13/2014 10:17 PM, Norminn wrote:


CBS news tonight had a spot about appliance repair a la Consumer
Reports. Advised to buy new if the repair bill would be more than half
new purchase price!! Really? F--- that! My parents bought a Philco
fridge about 1955 ... to replace our ice box ... and it was still
working in 2005. Something like 40% of refrigerators need repair
withing 4 years. Damn crooked mfgs...


Do the math. All the math. Even with a repair every four years, that
1955 refrigerator is costing you more than a new efficient model and the
occasional repair.

I got rid of an old fridge and replaced it with one 50% larger and my
electric bill dropped over $10 a month.

On 1/14/2014 10:21 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 1/13/2014 10:17 PM, Norminn wrote:


CBS news tonight had a spot about appliance repair a la Consumer
Reports. Advised to buy new if the repair bill would be more than half
new purchase price!! Really? F--- that! My parents bought a Philco
fridge about 1955 ... to replace our ice box ... and it was still
working in 2005. Something like 40% of refrigerators need repair
withing 4 years. Damn crooked mfgs...


Do the math. All the math. Even with a repair every four years, that
1955 refrigerator is costing you more than a new efficient model and the
occasional repair.

I got rid of an old fridge and replaced it with one 50% larger and my
electric bill dropped over $10 a month.

I'm good at math.....the point is that spending $1200 for an appliance
requiring repair or replacement in 4 years is no damn bargain.

On Tue, 14 Jan 2014 10:25:03 -0500, Norminn wrote:

On 1/14/2014 10:21 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 1/13/2014 10:17 PM, Norminn wrote:


CBS news tonight had a spot about appliance repair a la Consumer
Reports. Advised to buy new if the repair bill would be more than half
new purchase price!! Really? F--- that! My parents bought a Philco
fridge about 1955 ... to replace our ice box ... and it was still
working in 2005. Something like 40% of refrigerators need repair
withing 4 years. Damn crooked mfgs...


Do the math. All the math. Even with a repair every four years, that
1955 refrigerator is costing you more than a new efficient model and the
occasional repair.

I got rid of an old fridge and replaced it with one 50% larger and my
electric bill dropped over $10 a month.

I'm good at math.....the point is that spending $1200 for an appliance
requiring repair or replacement in 4 years is no damn bargain.

Agreed, one must factor in the grief, aggravation and time.

+ $480 in electricity savings during the course of four years.
- $200 in spoiled food because the fridge is so large you forget what you have
in the cavity.
- $350 for the repair
- 8 hours arranging for the repair and loss of time at work because you have to
be around for the service appointment. What is your time worth?

Obviously, an appliance that works for 60 years is a far more economical
situation.

On Tue, 14 Jan 2014 09:06:26 -0800, Lab Lover wrote:

On Tue, 14 Jan 2014 10:25:03 -0500, Norminn wrote:

On 1/14/2014 10:21 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 1/13/2014 10:17 PM, Norminn wrote:


CBS news tonight had a spot about appliance repair a la Consumer
Reports. Advised to buy new if the repair bill would be more than half
new purchase price!! Really? F--- that! My parents bought a Philco
fridge about 1955 ... to replace our ice box ... and it was still
working in 2005. Something like 40% of refrigerators need repair
withing 4 years. Damn crooked mfgs...


Do the math. All the math. Even with a repair every four years, that
1955 refrigerator is costing you more than a new efficient model and the
occasional repair.

I got rid of an old fridge and replaced it with one 50% larger and my
electric bill dropped over $10 a month.

I'm good at math.....the point is that spending $1200 for an appliance
requiring repair or replacement in 4 years is no damn bargain.

Agreed, one must factor in the grief, aggravation and time.

+ $480 in electricity savings during the course of four years.
- $200 in spoiled food because the fridge is so large you forget what you have
in the cavity.
- $350 for the repair
- 8 hours arranging for the repair and loss of time at work because you have to
be around for the service appointment. What is your time worth?

Obviously, an appliance that works for 60 years is a far more economical
situation.

In December 2012 our GE freezer died after 44 years. Bought a new
Whirlpool from Home Depot. 6 months later the defrost timer quit.
Warranty was handled through Whirlpool and they used A&E Appliance to
replace the timer. I now have one of the $8 universal solid state
defrost timers just in case.
--
Mr.E

Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 1/13/2014 10:17 PM, Norminn wrote:


CBS news tonight had a spot about appliance repair a la Consumer
Reports. Advised to buy new if the repair bill would be more than half
new purchase price!! Really? F--- that! My parents bought a Philco
Hi,
**** replace "that" with your name. LOW efficiency aNcient fridge is a
power HOG! Nothing to brag about.

fridge about 1955 ... to replace our ice box ... and it was still
working in 2005. Something like 40% of refrigerators need repair
withing 4 years. Damn crooked mfgs...


Do the math. All the math. Even with a repair every four years, that
1955 refrigerator is costing you more than a new efficient model and the
occasional repair.

I got rid of an old fridge and replaced it with one 50% larger and my
electric bill dropped over $10 a month.

On Mon, 13 Jan 2014 08:08:18 -0600, CRNG
wrote:

Anybody here have any experience getting appliance repair
(refrigerator, clothes washer/dryer, dishwasher) from either Lowe's
or Home Depot. I will be in the market for a low-end top loading
clothes washer such as this


http://www.homedepot.com/p/Maytag-Centennial-3-6-cu-ft-High-Efficiency-Top-Load-Washer-in-White-ENERGY-STAR-MVWC360AW/203667281#.UtPzDvu3MS4

in the next year, and I was wondering what happens if it ever needs
service. I've never purchased an appliance from them.

Do they offer appliance service? Is it any good?

Sure. I've used Lowes. They contract it out (to the local gas
company, the last time I used them).

wrote:
On Mon, 13 Jan 2014 08:08:18 -0600, CRNG
wrote:

Anybody here have any experience getting appliance repair
(refrigerator, clothes washer/dryer, dishwasher) from either Lowe's
or Home Depot. I will be in the market for a low-end top loading
clothes washer such as this


http://www.homedepot.com/p/Maytag-Centennial-3-6-cu-ft-High-Efficiency-Top-Load-Washer-in-White-ENERGY-STAR-MVWC360AW/203667281#.UtPzDvu3MS4

in the next year, and I was wondering what happens if it ever needs
service. I've never purchased an appliance from them.

Do they offer appliance service? Is it any good?

Sure. I've used Lowes. They contract it out (to the local gas
company, the last time I used them).

What did you have repaired that Lowes contracted out to the local gas
company?

Maybe you should define "local gas company" first. We could be thinking of
two different things.

Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 1/13/2014 10:17 PM, Norminn wrote:


CBS news tonight had a spot about appliance repair a la Consumer
Reports. Advised to buy new if the repair bill would be more than half
new purchase price!! Really? F--- that! My parents bought a Philco
fridge about 1955 ... to replace our ice box ... and it was still
working in 2005. Something like 40% of refrigerators need repair
withing 4 years. Damn crooked mfgs...


Do the math. All the math. Even with a repair every four years, that 1955
refrigerator is costing you more than a new efficient model and the occasional repair.

I got rid of an old fridge and replaced it with one 50% larger and my
electric bill dropped over $10 a month.

I got a 70's in my basement. The condenser is wide open in the back, no
fan. It runs almost $100 more a year, but I'm not changing It out.

How much does it cost to get freon removed ? Certified.

Greg

On Sat, 18 Jan 2014 02:10:11 +0000 (UTC), gregz
wrote:



I got rid of an old fridge and replaced it with one 50% larger and my
electric bill dropped over $10 a month.

I got a 70's in my basement. The condenser is wide open in the back, no
fan. It runs almost $100 more a year, but I'm not changing It out.

How much does it cost to get freon removed ? Certified.

Greg

Free. Appliance dealer hauls it away.

On 1/14/2014 12:38 PM, Tony Hwang wrote:
Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 1/13/2014 10:17 PM, Norminn wrote:


CBS news tonight had a spot about appliance repair a la Consumer
Reports. Advised to buy new if the repair bill would be more than half
new purchase price!! Really? F--- that! My parents bought a Philco
Hi,
**** replace "that" with your name. LOW efficiency aNcient fridge is a
power HOG! Nothing to brag about.

The point I tried to make was that engineered obsolescence should be a
crime! The ability to design and manufacture quality appliances should
be greater now than it was 60 years ago. Of course, I expect energy
efficiency, but mfg. practices are such that mfgs cut every possible
penny from mfg. to the extent that circuit boards burn out, not enough
internal insulation, less durable material (price door seals) etc.

fridge about 1955 ... to replace our ice box ... and it was still
working in 2005. Something like 40% of refrigerators need repair
withing 4 years. Damn crooked mfgs...


Do the math. All the math. Even with a repair every four years, that
1955 refrigerator is costing you more than a new efficient model and the
occasional repair.

I got rid of an old fridge and replaced it with one 50% larger and my
electric bill dropped over $10 a month.


I'm wondering if washers with no agitator will last...we have a Maytag,
1 y/o, and so far it is fine. I always use the "bulky" setting to get
more water so's my clothes aren't ground to pieces. There is no doubt
in my mind that with much less water there is much more friction on the
fabrics. Saving $ on water isn't economic if my clothes wear out faster )

On Sat, 18 Jan 2014 01:56:35 +0000 (UTC), DerbyDad03
wrote:

wrote:
On Mon, 13 Jan 2014 08:08:18 -0600, CRNG
wrote:

Anybody here have any experience getting appliance repair
(refrigerator, clothes washer/dryer, dishwasher) from either Lowe's
or Home Depot. I will be in the market for a low-end top loading
clothes washer such as this


http://www.homedepot.com/p/Maytag-Centennial-3-6-cu-ft-High-Efficiency-Top-Load-Washer-in-White-ENERGY-STAR-MVWC360AW/203667281#.UtPzDvu3MS4

in the next year, and I was wondering what happens if it ever needs
service. I've never purchased an appliance from them.

Do they offer appliance service? Is it any good?

Sure. I've used Lowes. They contract it out (to the local gas
company, the last time I used them).

What did you have repaired that Lowes contracted out to the local gas
company?

Because the service contract was bought from Lowes? Because that's
who the tenants (future owners) called? Because the Lowes phone number
was handy?

Maybe you should define "local gas company" first. We could be thinking of
two different things.

Are you really so dumb that you can't read three words? That's pretty
poor, even for a lefty.

from the free online dictionary http://www.thefreedictionary.com/

lo·cal (lkl)
adj.
1b. Of or relating to a city, town, or district rather than a larger
area: state and local government.

gas (gs)
n. pl. gas·es or gas·ses
2. A gaseous fuel, such as natural gas.

(or in your case 7a. Flatulence.)

com·pa·ny (kmp-n)
n. pl. com·pa·nies
3a. A business enterprise; a firm.

On 1/18/2014 10:28 AM, Norminn wrote:
The point I tried to make was that engineered obsolescence should be a
crime! The ability to design and manufacture quality appliances should
be greater now than it was 60 years ago. Of course, I expect energy
efficiency, but mfg. practices are such that mfgs cut every possible
penny from mfg. to the extent that circuit boards burn out, not enough
internal insulation, less durable material (price door seals) etc.

I'm wondering if washers with no agitator will last...we have a Maytag,
1 y/o, and so far it is fine. I always use the "bulky" setting to get
more water so's my clothes aren't ground to pieces. There is no doubt
in my mind that with much less water there is much more friction on the
fabrics. Saving $ on water isn't economic if my clothes wear out faster
)

I'm also not fond of that planned obsolescence.
I figure that means more material used, energy,
etc. And we're packing the already over filled
landfills. What's the point of turn down the
thermostat and put a brick in the toilet tank
(and all the other 1970's conservation tricks)
if we just keep landfilling the computer printer,
the refrigerator, etc.

I've heard that the low water front loading washers
are a failure, on so many levels. The new clothes
dryers with the bearing supported clothes drum are
also a failure. Electrolux, White Westinghouse, I
think it is.

--
..
Christopher A. Young
Learn about Jesus
www.lds.org
..

wrote:
On Sat, 18 Jan 2014 01:56:35 +0000 (UTC), DerbyDad03
wrote:

wrote:
On Mon, 13 Jan 2014 08:08:18 -0600, CRNG
wrote:


Sure. I've used Lowes. They contract it out (to the local gas
company, the last time I used them).

What did you have repaired that Lowes contracted out to the local gas
company?

Because the service contract was bought from Lowes? Because that's
who the tenants (future owners) called? Because the Lowes phone number
was handy?

Once again, your lack of reading comprehension is showing. Go back and read
the question that I asked. Note that the question starts with the word
"what", not "why".

I'll type this slowly because I know you can't read very fast...

When someone asks a question that begins with "what", an answer that starts
with "because" is not relevant. "Because" answers a question that starts
with "why".

A relevant answer to a question that starts with "_What_ did you have
repaired..." would be something like "a water heater", "a generator", "a
gas dryer". The answer would not start with the word "because" unless the
person answering the question suffered from a reading comprehension
disability. For that you have my sympathies.


Maybe you should define "local gas company" first. We could be thinking of
two different things.

Are you really so dumb that you can't read three words? That's pretty
poor, even for a lefty.

Once again, I'll be patient and try to help you out since you can't seem to
do this on your own.

When I DAGS for gas companies in my area, I get hits for at least 6
different "local gas companies" including the utility company that supplies
natural gas and electricity to the homes and businesses in our area. If I
said that I was going to call "the local gas company", that is the company
that most people would think of.

I'm not going too fast for you, am I? I can wait while you read that again
if you'd like.

OK, still with me? Good, I'll continue...

If I had a service contract through Lowe's, I can be pretty sure that the
"local gas company" that supplies natural gas and electricity to the homes
and businesses in my area is not going to be the "local gas company" that
shows up for the service call. They simply don't repair the types of things
that Lowe's sells service contracts for. Of course, I am speaking only for
my "local" area. Things may be different in the "local" area of the
gentleman who said that Lowe's has a contract with the "local gas company".

Therefore, I am still interested in the poster's definition of "local gas
company" as it applies to the service contract he had with Lowe's.

Were you able to follow any of that or should I repeat it?


from the free online dictionary http://www.thefreedictionary.com/

Who helped you find that site?

On Sat, 18 Jan 2014 21:42:17 +0000 (UTC), DerbyDad03
wrote:

from the free online dictionary http://www.thefreedictionary.com/

Who helped you find that site?

If I cannot spell a word, how can I find it in a dictionary?

--
"..,what is good is the front end if you don't have the back end"-- Kimberly Guilfoyle

On Sat, 18 Jan 2014 21:42:17 +0000 (UTC), DerbyDad03
wrote:

wrote:
On Sat, 18 Jan 2014 01:56:35 +0000 (UTC), DerbyDad03
wrote:

wrote:
On Mon, 13 Jan 2014 08:08:18 -0600, CRNG
wrote:


Sure. I've used Lowes. They contract it out (to the local gas
company, the last time I used them).

What did you have repaired that Lowes contracted out to the local gas
company?

Because the service contract was bought from Lowes? Because that's
who the tenants (future owners) called? Because the Lowes phone number
was handy?

Once again, your lack of reading comprehension is showing. Go back and read
the question that I asked. Note that the question starts with the word
"what", not "why".

Once again, you prove that you're too stupid to breathe. What wasn't
part of the discussion. It doesn't matter (but it was a 'fridge). I
made the assumption (I know) that you had a real question, for once. I
should have known that a lefty can never be honest.
more drivel from the lefty loser snipped

On Sat, 18 Jan 2014 21:42:17 +0000 (UTC), DerbyDad03
wrote:


Once again, your lack of

Please. You only encourage him.

On 1/18/2014 4:42 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
What did you have repaired that Lowes contracted out to the local gas
company?

Because the service contract was bought from Lowes? Because that's
who the tenants (future owners) called? Because the Lowes phone number
was handy?

Once again, your lack of reading comprehension is showing. Go back and read
the question that I asked. Note that the question starts with the word
"what", not "why".


from the free online dictionary http://www.thefreedictionary.com/

Who helped you find that site?


I am guessing that google dot com search engine
helped Kerwhat find the free dictionary site.

What's on second? Who helped you find that site?
I don't know. I don't know what. Who? No, what.
Who, Hu? Hu is the premier of China. That's what
I asked. No, not what; who?


--
..
Christopher A. Young
Learn about Jesus
www.lds.org
..

wrote:
On Sat, 18 Jan 2014 21:42:17 +0000 (UTC), DerbyDad03
wrote:

wrote:
On Sat, 18 Jan 2014 01:56:35 +0000 (UTC), DerbyDad03
wrote:

wrote:
On Mon, 13 Jan 2014 08:08:18 -0600, CRNG
wrote:


Sure. I've used Lowes. They contract it out (to the local gas
company, the last time I used them).

What did you have repaired that Lowes contracted out to the local gas
company?

Because the service contract was bought from Lowes? Because that's
who the tenants (future owners) called? Because the Lowes phone number
was handy?

Once again, your lack of reading comprehension is showing. Go back and read
the question that I asked. Note that the question starts with the word
"what", not "why".

Once again, you prove that you're too stupid to breathe. What wasn't
part of the discussion.

What a pathetic attempt to conceal your error. I asked a specific question
- "What was repaired...€� thus making "what" a part of the discussion. You,
due to your lack of reading comprehension, answered a question that was
never asked. In fact you answered a question that wasn't asked with 3
different "because" answers.

Oh, wait. You may be having some trouble with that last paragraph. Go find
who ever it was that helped you use freedictionary.com and have them look
up - and explain to you - the definition of "pathetic". You might (although
I doubt it) recognize yourself.

It doesn't matter (but it was a 'fridge). I
made the assumption (I know) that you had a real question, for once.

I did. The real question was, as can be seen above (by anyone who can read)
"What was repaired..." Of course, you know that because you finally
answered it. Why it took you 2 posts to answer it shows how slow you are.
Hey, don't let it bother you. We accept you for who you are, even with all
of your many, many faults.

OK, so now we know it was a 'fridge. As I posted earlier, my "local gas
company" doesn't repair 'fridges, not for Lowe's, not for anyone else. So
my other question is still unanswered. Now that we know that it was a
'fridge, I'll rephrase it: What kind of "local gas company" was it that was
contracted by Lowe's to fix a 'fridge? Let me repeat that for you so we're
all sure what question is being asked. We wouldn't want you to answer an
un-asked question like you did earlier.

What kind of "local gas company" was it that was contracted by Lowe's to
fix a 'fridge?

should have known that a lefty can never be honest.

Oh, come on...I honestly want to know what kind of "local gas company" had
a contract with Lowe's to fix 'fridges. There's no chance that that was one
of your "lefty lies" is there?

On 1/18/2014 10:28 AM, Norminn wrote:

The point I tried to make was that engineered obsolescence should be a
crime! The ability to design and manufacture quality appliances should
be greater now than it was 60 years ago. Of course, I expect energy
efficiency, but mfg. practices are such that mfgs cut every possible
penny from mfg. to the extent that circuit boards burn out, not enough
internal insulation, less durable material (price door seals) etc.

Two parts to that equation. Yes, part of it is planned obsolescence,
but part of it is cheap consumers. We can buy appliances for much less
than we could 60 years ago. When we got married in 1966 we bought a
6,000 BTU air conditioner for the bedroom. Now, in 2013 I can buy a
lighter more cheaply made AC for about the same dollars.

People can now afford appliances, possibly less reliable, that they
could not afford years ago. Good or bad?



I'm wondering if washers with no agitator will last...we have a Maytag,
1 y/o, and so far it is fine. I always use the "bulky" setting to get
more water so's my clothes aren't ground to pieces. There is no doubt
in my mind that with much less water there is much more friction on the
fabrics. Saving $ on water isn't economic if my clothes wear out faster
)

Bought one a few months ago. Works well, but given the complexity of it
all, I wonder how reliable it really is.

I replaced a 3.5 gallon toilet with a 1.6, replaced an old washer with
hi-efficiency, replaced the dishwasher with a new more efficient model.
Water bill came today and it is $4 higher than the last one.

maytag is now junk quality check consumer reports, its made by whirlpool.

havent you noticed the lack of commercials by the maytag man? He is too busy reparing the appliances to film commercials

Oren posted for all of us...

And I know how to SNIP

"..,what is good is the front end if you don't have the back end"-- Kimberly Guilfoyle


She also stated "I have never been spanked fir
disciplinary matter" I had visions then and
there...

--
Tekkie

On Monday, January 13, 2014 at 7:38:18 PM UTC+5:30, CRNG wrote:
Anybody here have any experience getting appliance repair
(refrigerator, clothes washer/dryer, dishwasher) from either Lowe's
or Home Depot. I will be in the market for a low-end top loading
clothes washer such as this


http://www.homedepot.com/p/Maytag-Centennial-3-6-cu-ft-High-Efficiency-Top-Load-Washer-in-White-ENERGY-STAR-MVWC360AW/203667281#.UtPzDvu3MS4

in the next year, and I was wondering what happens if it ever needs
service. I've never purchased an appliance from them.

Do they offer appliance service? Is it any good?

Thanks
--
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and having to visit 10 different news stands to pickup each one.
Email list-server groups and USENET are like having all of those
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On Tuesday, July 17, 2018 at 12:41:39 AM UTC-5, wrote:
On Monday, January 13, 2014 at 7:38:18 PM UTC+5:30, CRNG wrote:
Anybody here have any experience getting appliance repair
(refrigerator, clothes washer/dryer, dishwasher) from either Lowe's
or Home Depot. I will be in the market for a low-end top loading
clothes washer such as this


http://www.homedepot.com/p/Maytag-Centennial-3-6-cu-ft-High-Efficiency-Top-Load-Washer-in-White-ENERGY-STAR-MVWC360AW/203667281#.UtPzDvu3MS4

in the next year, and I was wondering what happens if it ever needs
service. I've never purchased an appliance from them.

Do they offer appliance service? Is it any good?

Thanks
--
Web based forums are like subscribing to 10 different newspapers
and having to visit 10 different news stands to pickup each one.
Email list-server groups and USENET are like having all of those
newspapers delivered to your door every morning.

samsung service center in gurgaon supply home repair service All over Delhi/NCR. we provide Reapir home appliances service for fridge, washing machine, microwave such type of samsung items.we also provide 3 months warranty on all products. we are authorised service marketer call on 9811052330 samsung customer care in faridabad gives 100% Satisfaction or fast service to our client.
Visit :- https://www.samsungcustomercare.co.in

What do you charge for a service call to Birmingham, Alabama USA? O_o

[8~{} Uncle Curious Monster

On 7/17/18 1:41 AM, wrote:
On Monday, January 13, 2014 at 7:38:18 PM UTC+5:30, CRNG wrote:
Anybody here have any experience getting appliance repair
(refrigerator, clothes washer/dryer, dishwasher) from either Lowe's
or Home Depot. I will be in the market for a low-end top loading
clothes washer such as this



I had a Home Depot-purchased 40 gallon natural gas water heater that had
been installed by an HD subcontractor company. Total price for the
heater and installation was reasonable and competitive at the time.

The device failed after about half-way through the warranty period and I
went over to the local HD. They offered a new one at a very steeply
discounted price but told me that installation wasn't covered. They said
their install subcontractor (a different company) would call to set up
an appointment for later in the day.

They did and when the guy arrived, he took a quick look at the easy-out,
easy-in location and solemnly informed me that it was an especially
difficult- and possibly dangerous- installation which would cost $1500
and change just for the labor. The heater, new expansion tank, gas
valve/fitting lines, and new pressure relief valve were all extra.

He was quite surprised when I thanked him for his time and sent him on
his way. He said there was a $75 charge for coming out for the estimate
since I didn't hire him, I told him that's fine but I was a work-at-home
self-employed professional and would charge him $100 for my wasted time
spent talking to him about his absurd bid. He got in his van and left
hurridly- clipping one of my wife's rose bushes at the end of the driveway.

I picked up the heater from HD myself and hired a local plumber at his
hourly rater to install it. It took him just under two hours- including
testing, clean-up and agreeing to haul away the old one for much less
than my trash collection company charges for special pickups of
appliances and such.

Never had any dealings with Lowe's contractors but had a few problems
with their appliance delivery folks- company employees, not subs.

--
I don't lie to myself, and I don't hold on to a loser.

In article ,
says...

Never had any dealings with Lowe's contractors but had a few problems
with their appliance delivery folks- company employees, not subs.




I have had Lowes to install some carpet and laminate flooring. That was
top notch. Good people and on time.

I ordered a stove from them and got a call for delivery on Monday for a
Wensday delivery . No show. Called them . They said the stove got on
the wrong truck. The same thing happened the next week. Call and no
show. I called and asked what they had in stock at the store. Bought
one in stainless steel instead of white because they said it was in
stock. It did get delivered.
A friend had about the same thing hapen to him with a freezer.

About 3 years later I bought a dryer from them. After waiting an hour
past the due time, I called and they said they were running behind.
They did finally show up about an hour and a half late. I thought they
were suppose to hook it up as I had to buy a new cord at the store.
They brought it in, put the cord on and when they found out they would
have to go under the house to hook up the vent line, they said they did
not go under houses and left. They were nice about the way they said
it.

Under the house is large enough to stand up in, so I spent about 15
minuits hooking it up.