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Adam's apprentices have apparently banded together and formed a
scaffolding firm here in London. Next door are having some work done, and they wanted to brace their scaffolding against my house. Absolutely fine, I said. They put one brace against the brickwork, and the other against a window! Anyway, the neighbour is getting them round tomorrow to move it. But, surely, the scaffolders knew perfectly well when they did it that it was completely wrong. I guess they get away with it a lot of the time, so they don't care. But, if I were a builder and noticed it, I certainly would not feel safe up there, and I wouldn't use that firm again. |
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On 04/12/2019 16:16, Brian Gaff (Sofa 2) wrote:
Would it not go through the window and the cost would probably bankrupt the scaffolding company. Yes it seems that the scaffolding is often erected by a contractor of the contractor. Brian I had scaffolding at the front of my house during the summer and around 6 weeks later my neighbour had the same. Two different companies and it was evident from how the scaffolding was erected and dismantled[1] that the company that I employed knew what they were doing and the company that my neighbour used were somewhat lacking in skill. Price guide for anyone interested (SE Essex): £360 incl. VAT. I had the scaffolding up for around 5 weeks with no extra charges. [1] Mid-terrace houses and 3 stage scaffolding to front of house up to roof ridge above bay windows. My house, when dismantling it was less than one hour from the truck tuning up, 3 men to dismantle and load the truck to the truck leaving. My neighbours scaffolding company nearer 4 hours to do the same job with 3 men. -- mailto : news {at} admac {dot} myzen {dot} co {dot} uk |
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On 04/12/2019 15:43, GB wrote:
Adam's apprentices have apparently banded together and formed a scaffolding firm here in London. Next door are having some work done, and they wanted to brace their scaffolding against my house. Absolutely fine, I said. They put one brace against the brickwork, and the other against a window! Anyway, the neighbour is getting them round tomorrow to move it. But, surely, the scaffolders knew perfectly well when they did it that it was completely wrong. I guess they get away with it a lot of the time, so they don't care. But, if I were a builder and noticed it, I certainly would not feel safe up there, and I wouldn't use that firm again. Should put a photo up of that. This time last year a third year apprentice was wiring new-builds on his own. I worked through through the first one with him and made sure he was happy with what he had to do. He completed all houses with no cock ups. This year we have 2 third year apprentices. Neither of them can fit a back box straight, wire up a two way lightswitch etc etc. Due to the minimum wage rules and the fact we run a business then they will probably soon be laid off. -- Adam |
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On Wednesday, 4 December 2019 18:03:51 UTC, ARW wrote:
This year we have 2 third year apprentices. Neither of them can fit a back box straight, wire up a two way lightswitch etc etc. Could I suggest that being able to wire up a two way lightswitch should be an *entry criterion* to being an electrical apprentice? Fairly sure I could have done it at 16. In fact I was probably doing it about 8, with a battery and paperclips and brass paper fasteners for switches :-) If someone hasn't got to that stage by 16, where is the evidence of their interest and ability? Owain Admittedly my back boxes aren't always straight, but I blame the bricks... |
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![]() wrote in message ... On Wednesday, 4 December 2019 18:03:51 UTC, ARW wrote: This year we have 2 third year apprentices. Neither of them can fit a back box straight, wire up a two way lightswitch etc etc. Could I suggest that being able to wire up a two way lightswitch should be an *entry criterion* to being an electrical apprentice? Problem is that they have to take what they can get or end up with no apprentices at all. Better to have some that can do some jobs than no apprentices at all. Fairly sure I could have done it at 16. I know I could, because I did rather younger than that. In fact I was probably doing it about 8, with a battery and paperclips and brass paper fasteners for switches :-) Yeah, me too. I did all the electrical work that needed to be done for the parents and they did do full scale renos of the houses they owned at that sort of my age. If someone hasn't got to that stage by 16, where is the evidence of their interest and ability? Sure, but see above. |
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On Thu, 5 Dec 2019 08:57:01 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again: Problem is that Problem is that you are a trolling piece of senile ****! FLUSH the rest of your troll**** unread -- Website (from 2007) dedicated to the 85-year-old trolling senile cretin from Oz: https://www.pcreview.co.uk/threads/r...d-faq.2973853/ |
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Not a new phenomenon though, back when we first got broadband the first
chap, very young came to fit the junction box on the wall, when later on after the whole thing had been in for a year or so, the box fell off the wall, the guy had used a screw straight into the brickwork and a nail in the other screw. Brian -- ----- -- This newsgroup posting comes to you directly from... The Sofa of Brian Gaff... Blind user, so no pictures please Note this Signature is meaningless.! "ARW" wrote in message ... On 04/12/2019 15:43, GB wrote: Adam's apprentices have apparently banded together and formed a scaffolding firm here in London. Next door are having some work done, and they wanted to brace their scaffolding against my house. Absolutely fine, I said. They put one brace against the brickwork, and the other against a window! Anyway, the neighbour is getting them round tomorrow to move it. But, surely, the scaffolders knew perfectly well when they did it that it was completely wrong. I guess they get away with it a lot of the time, so they don't care. But, if I were a builder and noticed it, I certainly would not feel safe up there, and I wouldn't use that firm again. Should put a photo up of that. This time last year a third year apprentice was wiring new-builds on his own. I worked through through the first one with him and made sure he was happy with what he had to do. He completed all houses with no cock ups. This year we have 2 third year apprentices. Neither of them can fit a back box straight, wire up a two way lightswitch etc etc. Due to the minimum wage rules and the fact we run a business then they will probably soon be laid off. -- Adam |
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On Wednesday, 4 December 2019 18:03:51 UTC, ARW wrote:
This year we have 2 third year apprentices. Neither of them can fit a back box straight, wire up a two way lightswitch etc etc. Due to the minimum wage rules and the fact we run a business then they will probably soon be laid off. I've just had a 2nd year electronic engineering student studying for a degree ask me what the connector on the end of the soldering iron is for, I said to connect to the power supply, what power supply ? was the next question. |
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