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Tim Streater wrote:
In the US you cannot even buy a mains plug, strickly speaking. Home depot don't seem shy about selling them ... https://www.homedepot.com/b/Electrical-Wiring-Devices-Light-Controls-Electrical-Plugs-Connectors/AC-WORKS/Eaton/GE/Legrand-Pass-and-Seymour/N-5yc1vZc336ZloZwcZ384Zh5oZhho?NCNI-5&experienceName=default&storeSelection=2408,2414, 2409,2407,2404 |
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On 12/7/2019 9:24 AM, Andy Burns wrote:
Tim Streater wrote: In the US you cannot even buy a mains plug, strickly speaking. Home depot don't seem shy about selling them ... https://www.homedepot.com/b/Electrical-Wiring-Devices-Light-Controls-Electrical-Plugs-Connectors/AC-WORKS/Eaton/GE/Legrand-Pass-and-Seymour/N-5yc1vZc336ZloZwcZ384Zh5oZhho?NCNI-5&experienceName=default&storeSelection=2408,2414, 2409,2407,2404 Lowe's, too. |
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On 07/12/2019 13:26, Terry Casey wrote:
In article , says... I'm old enough to remember Window Tax. Is that the money you pay to Microsoft, Bill? It's funny but when there's talk of windows I never think about Windows. Bill |
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On 07/12/2019 12:46, Bill Wright wrote:
On 07/12/2019 09:43, wrote: On Saturday, 7 December 2019 02:58:50 UTC, Bill WrightÂ* wrote: I'm old enough to remember Window Tax. But you wuz too poor to 'ave windows :-) Owain We had the windows but not the glass. Bill Better than having the glass and no windows. |
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whisky-dave wrote: I've just had a 2nd year electronic engineering student studying for a degree ask me what the connector on the end of the soldering iron is for, I said to connect to the power supply, what power supply ? was the next question. Could be he's only ever seen a mains soldering iron before. If at all. -- *If a parsley farmer is sued, can they garnish his wages? Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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wrote in message ... On Saturday, 7 December 2019 02:58:50 UTC, Bill Wright wrote: I'm old enough to remember Window Tax. But you wuz too poor to 'ave windows :-) And they arent cheap to have in a cave. |
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UNBELIEVABLE: It's 03:56 am in Australia and the Senile Ozzietard is out of Bed and TROLLING, already!!!! LOL
On Sun, 8 Dec 2019 03:56:39 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again: FLUSH the clinically insane trolling asshole's latest troll**** 03:56??? Yet ANOTHER night without sleep for you, you subnormal quarrelsome senile idiot? BG -- Website (from 2007) dedicated to the 85-year-old trolling senile cretin from Oz: https://www.pcreview.co.uk/threads/r...d-faq.2973853/ |
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On 06/12/2019 11:03, Dave Liquorice wrote:
On Fri, 6 Dec 2019 09:40:36 +0000 (UTC), Brian Reay wrote: That kind of â tinkeringâ by children is pretty well a thing of the past. Toys like Mecanno, But still easyly available, so someone must be buying them. I found it nearly impossible (well almost) to buy old style Meccano (you know with a multitude of bits you could make into anything). Instead it seemed to be all kits you could make into ONE specific thing (Action man was the same, no 1 Action man and 50 uniforms it was a separate Action man for each activity). I had to go off the beaten path to find Neccano that was just parts. I blame the French, Meccano was much better when it was a Hornby thing. |
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On 07/12/2019 13:51, charles wrote:
In article , Tim Streater wrote: In article , alan_m wrote: On 05/12/2019 22:56, Robin wrote: ISTM such questions would test how much they /already/ know - which could vary enormously through chance (eg whether or not they had a parent who did stuff). What the employer wants to know* is whether or not they have what it takes to /become/ an electrician. I'd have thought that was better assessed by testing things all school leavers ought to know - e.g. basic arithmetic, algebra and comprehension. A decent interview should sort that out. Its not only what they know but their attitude to actually working. I'm sure that most reading this group have HAD to fit a mains plug but these day they all come moulded onto the cable. In the US you cannot even buy a mains plug, strickly speaking. Which would be a problem in our village hall, where the three appliances you are asked to leave disconnected and (for the two fridges), door open, have their mains cable coming up through the counter top via a cable-width hole, with the plug above along with the wall sockets. simple, enlarge the hole to take one the many desk cable outlets. It's what I did for our village hall. Kept the fridge's warranty Swapping a moulded plug does not invalidate a warranty. -- Adam |
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On Sat, 07 Dec 2019 17:46:49 +0000, soup wrote:
I found it nearly impossible (well almost) to buy old style Meccano (you know with a multitude of bits you could make into anything). Instead it seemed to be all kits you could make into ONE specific thing (Action man was the same, no 1 Action man and 50 uniforms it was a separate Action man for each activity). I had to go off the beaten path to find Neccano that was just parts. My problem exactly. I got a number 4 set for Christmas one year (back in the 1950s) and each week I bought a bit more to make it into a no. 5. Then a 6 ... 7 ... 8 ... 9 ... 10! Couldn't afford the nice caninet though. If a no. 10 set was available in a cabinet now, I might just buy it. -- My posts are my copyright and if @diy_forums or Home Owners' Hub wish to copy them they can pay me £1 a message. Use the BIG mirror service in the UK: http://www.mirrorservice.org *lightning surge protection* - a w_tom conductor |
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writes On 05/12/2019 22:16, Terry Casey wrote: In article , says... When they start with use they cannot use a screwdriver. Things were different 10 years ago, they get worse every year in most cases. Every so often you get a good one. Why doesn't your boss give potential apprentices a simple test to find out if they have even the slightest knowledge of the subject they wish to be paid to learn about? For example: 1. What is the UK mains voltage? (Accept both 240 & 230, though the latter answer might indicate a better knowledge of the subject.) 2. What are the colours of the wires in a 3-core mains lead? L? N? E? 3. [Line drawing of the inside of a 13A plug.] On the drawing, using the letters C, E, F, L & N, show the Live, Neutral and Earth connections and the position of the Fuse and Cable clamp. ISTM such questions would test how much they /already/ know - which could vary enormously through chance (eg whether or not they had a parent who did stuff). What the employer wants to know* is whether or not they have what it takes to /become/ an electrician. I'd have thought that was better assessed by testing things all school leavers ought to know - e.g. basic arithmetic, algebra and comprehension. Oh, and a test based on a 13A plug would also tend to put recent immigrants at a disadvantage so arguably unlawful as indirect racial discrimination. *assuming they want to train apprentices rather than, say, just torment Adam You can teach them the technical stuff, what is more difficult is teaching them attitude. -- bert |
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writes Terry Casey wrote: In article , says... I was born in 1944. I passed the 11 Plus and went to a Church school, which covered a large area. It was also a Secondary Modern for the local area. The Grammar side had 3 forms, A, B, & C whilst the Secondary Modern side had two forms, D & E. After WWII, 'The Bulge' started. By the time I left school, the fisrt year extended to 1H! Of course, not long after I left school and started work, the bulge started to emerge onto the employment market. Our Group Scoutmaster used to chat to us older boys after weekly meetings and gave the lads who were on the verge of leaving school a warning. He worked for Van den Bergh & Jurgens (part of Unilever) who manufactured Stork Margerine in the main. Their apprenticeships were well respected and sought after and they were now being inundated with applications, so they had found a devious way of reducing the numbers. They held an examination for all applicant, each of whom was provided with: A sheet of blotting paper; A rough sheet; An answer paper and A question paper. At the top of the question paper it said "ALL WORKING MUST BE SHOWN ON THE ANSWER PAPER". At the end of the exam, every sheet of paper was collected from each desk. If anything had been scribbled on any piece of paper other than the answer paper, it was an instant fail. The answer paper might have been 100% correct but it wan't even marked. Reason for failure? 'Cannot obey a simple instruction.' That would make sense if they had said all working should be *confned* to the answer paper. The instructions as you quote them do *not* forbid doing rough working on the blotter and transcribing it in neater writing to the answer paper. +1 -- bert |
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On 07/12/2019 19:00, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
ARW wrote: On 04/12/2019 22:00, Steve Walker wrote: On 04/12/2019 20:11, wrote: On Wednesday, 4 December 2019 18:03:51 UTC, ARW wrote: This year we have 2 third year apprentices. Neither of them can fit a back box straight, wire up a two way lightswitch etc etc. Could I suggest that being able to wire up a two way lightswitch should be an *entry criterion* to being an electrical apprentice? Fairly sure I could have done it at 16. In fact I was probably doing it about 8, with a battery and paperclips and brass paper fasteners for switches :-) I think I was about 12 or 13 when I installed the two mains spotlights, pair of dimmers and changed the switch near the door of my bedroom from a single gang to a 3-gang, with two way switching on both the spotlights. When they start with use they cannot use a screwdriver. Things were different 10 years ago, they get worse every year in most cases. Every so often you get a good one. I remember having an apprentice, he was 21. We were hanging fire extinguishers on the walls in a very posh accountants office. I asked him if he knew how to use a drill and a screwdriver. He said yes. I left him to it. The next day I had to go back as what he had done had fallen off the walls. He made me look like a right ****. Please tell me that he was called Mirror. -- Adam |
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On 06/12/2019 19:11, S Viemeister wrote:
On 12/6/2019 12:07 PM, Dave Liquorice wrote: On Fri, 6 Dec 2019 07:11:10 -0500, S Viemeister wrote: When our daughter moved into a shared flat, we gave her a set of basic tools - in 'girly' colours, so her male flatmates wouldn't 'accidentally' acquire them. No.1 Daugher asked for a tool kit when she moved into rented student accomdation. Didn't dare get her one in girly colours though. Turns out, not only didn't the guys have tool-kits, they wouldn't have known what to do with them. Do you wish to rephrase that? Most odd for a young male not to know what to do with his tool kit.Â* B-) I didn't dare ask about that. But the boys were totally useless when it came to hammers, spanners and, umm, the pointy things for twirling threaded objects which are used to fasten stuff together. Too busy with their wanking spanners. -- Adam |
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ARW wrote:
On 07/12/2019 19:00, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote: ARW wrote: On 04/12/2019 22:00, Steve Walker wrote: On 04/12/2019 20:11, wrote: On Wednesday, 4 December 2019 18:03:51 UTC, ARW wrote: This year we have 2 third year apprentices. Neither of them can fit a back box straight, wire up a two way lightswitch etc etc. Could I suggest that being able to wire up a two way lightswitch should be an *entry criterion* to being an electrical apprentice? Fairly sure I could have done it at 16. In fact I was probably doing it about 8, with a battery and paperclips and brass paper fasteners for switches :-) I think I was about 12 or 13 when I installed the two mains spotlights, pair of dimmers and changed the switch near the door of my bedroom from a single gang to a 3-gang, with two way switching on both the spotlights. When they start with use they cannot use a screwdriver. Things were different 10 years ago, they get worse every year in most cases. Every so often you get a good one. I remember having an apprentice, he was 21. We were hanging fire extinguishers on the walls in a very posh accountants office. I asked him if he knew how to use a drill and a screwdriver. He said yes. I left him to it. The next day I had to go back as what he had done had fallen off the walls. He made me look like a right ****. Please tell me that he was called Mirror. What is that supposed to mean? |
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On Saturday, 7 December 2019 18:43:07 UTC, Bob Eager wrote:
If a no. 10 set was available in a cabinet now, I might just buy it. They are :-) Cheap at £600 https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Complete/143458848507 Not so cheap at £1795 https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Meccano/124000702126 Owain |
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Lonely Auto-contradicting Psychotic Senile Ozzie Troll Alert!
On Sun, 8 Dec 2019 10:17:56 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again: Nope Nope, you auto-contradicting senile asshole? LOL -- Kerr-Mudd,John addressing senile Rot: "Auto-contradictor Rod is back! (in the KF)" MID: |
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On Sat, 07 Dec 2019 14:07:19 -0800, spuorgelgoog wrote:
On Saturday, 7 December 2019 18:43:07 UTC, Bob Eager wrote: If a no. 10 set was available in a cabinet now, I might just buy it. They are :-) Cheap at £600 https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Complete/143458848507 Not so cheap at £1795 https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Meccano/124000702126 Wow. I would prefer the second one as it is the 'right' colours! If any Meccano enthusiasts are in Brighton, visit the Toy and Model Museum (in Trafalgar Street, underneath the station forecourt). They have 'Meccano through the ages' as well as other stuff such as Erector sets and Trix. -- My posts are my copyright and if @diy_forums or Home Owners' Hub wish to copy them they can pay me £1 a message. Use the BIG mirror service in the UK: http://www.mirrorservice.org *lightning surge protection* - a w_tom conductor |
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On Saturday, 7 December 2019 22:36:58 UTC, Bob Eager wrote:
Not so cheap at £1795 https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Meccano/124000702126 Wow. I would prefer the second one as it is the 'right' colours! Well, it's the right time of year for a letter to Santa. Owain |
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"Terry Casey" wrote in message ... In article , says... Tim Streater wrote: In the US you cannot even buy a mains plug, strickly speaking. Home depot don't seem shy about selling them ... Isn't it Australia where they are very restictive? Nope, freely available at all hardware stores and places like BigW and Kmart. Not just plugs either, all the other stuff like GPOs, switches etc too. |
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Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
ARW wrote: On 07/12/2019 19:00, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote: ARW wrote: On 04/12/2019 22:00, Steve Walker wrote: On 04/12/2019 20:11, wrote: On Wednesday, 4 December 2019 18:03:51 UTC, ARW wrote: This year we have 2 third year apprentices. Neither of them can fit a back box straight, wire up a two way lightswitch etc etc. Could I suggest that being able to wire up a two way lightswitch should be an *entry criterion* to being an electrical apprentice? Fairly sure I could have done it at 16. In fact I was probably doing it about 8, with a battery and paperclips and brass paper fasteners for switches :-) I think I was about 12 or 13 when I installed the two mains spotlights, pair of dimmers and changed the switch near the door of my bedroom from a single gang to a 3-gang, with two way switching on both the spotlights. When they start with use they cannot use a screwdriver. Things were different 10 years ago, they get worse every year in most cases. Every so often you get a good one. I remember having an apprentice, he was 21. We were hanging fire extinguishers on the walls in a very posh accountants office. I asked him if he knew how to use a drill and a screwdriver. He said yes. I left him to it. The next day I had to go back as what he had done had fallen off the walls. He made me look like a right ****. Please tell me that he was called Mirror. What is that supposed to mean? It's a really subtle and complicated joke. -- Roger Hayter |
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"Mr Pounder Esquire" wrote in message ... ARW wrote: On 04/12/2019 22:00, Steve Walker wrote: On 04/12/2019 20:11, wrote: On Wednesday, 4 December 2019 18:03:51 UTC, ARW wrote: This year we have 2 third year apprentices. Neither of them can fit a back box straight, wire up a two way lightswitch etc etc. Could I suggest that being able to wire up a two way lightswitch should be an *entry criterion* to being an electrical apprentice? Fairly sure I could have done it at 16. In fact I was probably doing it about 8, with a battery and paperclips and brass paper fasteners for switches :-) I think I was about 12 or 13 when I installed the two mains spotlights, pair of dimmers and changed the switch near the door of my bedroom from a single gang to a 3-gang, with two way switching on both the spotlights. When they start with use they cannot use a screwdriver. Things were different 10 years ago, they get worse every year in most cases. Every so often you get a good one. I remember having an apprentice, he was 21. We were hanging fire extinguishers on the walls in a very posh accountants office. I asked him if he knew how to use a drill and a screwdriver. He said yes. I left him to it. The next day I had to go back as what he had done had fallen off the walls. He made me look like a right ****. well you didn't ask if he knew about wall-plugs, did you tim |
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On Sat, 07 Dec 2019 14:42:20 -0800, spuorgelgoog wrote:
On Saturday, 7 December 2019 22:36:58 UTC, Bob Eager wrote: Not so cheap at £1795 https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Meccano/124000702126 Wow. I would prefer the second one as it is the 'right' colours! Well, it's the right time of year for a letter to Santa. I told Mrs Santa and she wasn't very encouraging. -- My posts are my copyright and if @diy_forums or Home Owners' Hub wish to copy them they can pay me £1 a message. Use the BIG mirror service in the UK: http://www.mirrorservice.org *lightning surge protection* - a w_tom conductor |
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On 07/12/2019 13:51, charles wrote:
simple, enlarge the hole to take one the many desk cable outlets. It's what I did for our village hall. Kept the fridge's warranty You don't need a very big hole to get a three pin plug in. Ask anyone who's ever smuggled a cellphone charger into prison. I admit it can make your eyes water. Bill |
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On 07/12/2019 03:34, FMurtz wrote:
Try working it out with a pencil. Like the constipated mathematician I usually use a spoon handle. Bill |
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On 07/12/2019 17:46, soup wrote:
I blame the French I do usually. Bill |
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On 07/12/2019 22:07, wrote:
On Saturday, 7 December 2019 18:43:07 UTC, Bob Eager wrote: If a no. 10 set was available in a cabinet now, I might just buy it. They are :-) Cheap at £600 https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Complete/143458848507 Not so cheap at £1795 https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Meccano/124000702126 Owain I like the obligatory Old Holbourn tin for the nuts and bolts. Bill |
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On 07/12/2019 14:35, Richard wrote:
On 07/12/2019 12:46, Bill Wright wrote: On 07/12/2019 09:43, wrote: On Saturday, 7 December 2019 02:58:50 UTC, Bill WrightÂ* wrote: I'm old enough to remember Window Tax. But you wuz too poor to 'ave windows :-) Owain We had the windows but not the glass. Bill Better than having the glass and no windows. No because you could sell the glass and buy shoes. Bill |
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On 07/12/2019 23:44, Roger Hayter wrote:
Mr Pounder Esquire wrote: ARW wrote: On 07/12/2019 19:00, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote: ARW wrote: On 04/12/2019 22:00, Steve Walker wrote: On 04/12/2019 20:11, wrote: On Wednesday, 4 December 2019 18:03:51 UTC, ARW wrote: This year we have 2 third year apprentices. Neither of them can fit a back box straight, wire up a two way lightswitch etc etc. Could I suggest that being able to wire up a two way lightswitch should be an *entry criterion* to being an electrical apprentice? Fairly sure I could have done it at 16. In fact I was probably doing it about 8, with a battery and paperclips and brass paper fasteners for switches :-) I think I was about 12 or 13 when I installed the two mains spotlights, pair of dimmers and changed the switch near the door of my bedroom from a single gang to a 3-gang, with two way switching on both the spotlights. When they start with use they cannot use a screwdriver. Things were different 10 years ago, they get worse every year in most cases. Every so often you get a good one. I remember having an apprentice, he was 21. We were hanging fire extinguishers on the walls in a very posh accountants office. I asked him if he knew how to use a drill and a screwdriver. He said yes. I left him to it. The next day I had to go back as what he had done had fallen off the walls. He made me look like a right ****. Please tell me that he was called Mirror. What is that supposed to mean? It's a really subtle and complicated joke. To be fair, the apprentice was a right lazy *******. Job had already been done a long time ago. |
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On Sun, 08 Dec 2019 04:13:32 +0000, Bill Wright wrote:
On 07/12/2019 22:07, wrote: On Saturday, 7 December 2019 18:43:07 UTC, Bob Eager wrote: If a no. 10 set was available in a cabinet now, I might just buy it. They are :-) Cheap at £600 https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Complete/143458848507 Not so cheap at £1795 https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Meccano/124000702126 Owain I like the obligatory Old Holbourn tin for the nuts and bolts. I have loads of Players' 'No Name' tins for screws, etc. No more, though, because SWMBO gave up her pipe. -- My posts are my copyright and if @diy_forums or Home Owners' Hub wish to copy them they can pay me £1 a message. Use the BIG mirror service in the UK: http://www.mirrorservice.org *lightning surge protection* - a w_tom conductor |
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On 07/12/2019 23:46, tim... wrote:
"Mr Pounder Esquire" wrote in message ... ARW wrote: On 04/12/2019 22:00, Steve Walker wrote: On 04/12/2019 20:11, wrote: On Wednesday, 4 December 2019 18:03:51 UTC, ARW wrote: This year we have 2 third year apprentices. Neither of them can fit a back box straight, wire up a two way lightswitch etc etc. Could I suggest that being able to wire up a two way lightswitch should be an *entry criterion* to being an electrical apprentice? Fairly sure I could have done it at 16. In fact I was probably doing it about 8, with a battery and paperclips and brass paper fasteners for switches :-) I think I was about 12 or 13 when I installed the two mains spotlights, pair of dimmers and changed the switch near the door of my bedroom from a single gang to a 3-gang, with two way switching on both the spotlights. When they start with use they cannot use a screwdriver. Things were different 10 years ago, they get worse every year in most cases. Every so often you get a good one. I remember having an apprentice, he was 21. We were hanging fire extinguishers on the walls in a very posh accountants office. I asked him if he knew how to use a drill and a screwdriver. He said yes. I left him to it. The next day I had to go back as what he had done had fallen off the walls. He made me look like a right ****. well you didn't ask if he knew about wall-plugs, did you Used the wrong screws? -- Adam |
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On 07/12/2019 13:51, charles wrote:
In article , Tim Streater wrote: In article , alan_m wrote: On 05/12/2019 22:56, Robin wrote: ISTM such questions would test how much they /already/ know - which could vary enormously through chance (eg whether or not they had a parent who did stuff). What the employer wants to know* is whether or not they have what it takes to /become/ an electrician. I'd have thought that was better assessed by testing things all school leavers ought to know - e.g. basic arithmetic, algebra and comprehension. A decent interview should sort that out. Its not only what they know but their attitude to actually working. I'm sure that most reading this group have HAD to fit a mains plug but these day they all come moulded onto the cable. In the US you cannot even buy a mains plug, strickly speaking. Which would be a problem in our village hall, where the three appliances you are asked to leave disconnected and (for the two fridges), door open, have their mains cable coming up through the counter top via a cable-width hole, with the plug above along with the wall sockets. simple, enlarge the hole to take one the many desk cable outlets. It's what I did for our village hall. Kept the fridge's warranty And/Or a cable cover: https://www.bpfonline.co.uk/search.asp?catid=3970 -- Cheers, Rob |
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Isn't it Australia where they are very restictive? I believe they do have Part P on steroids, but Bunnings sell mains plugs with the description "ideal for the home handyman or professional trade person" |
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On Sunday, 8 December 2019 01:00:03 UTC, Bob Eager wrote:
Well, it's the right time of year for a letter to Santa. I told Mrs Santa and she wasn't very encouraging. That's so unreasonable. (You didn't tell her the price first, did you? Fatal error.) It's less than many teenage girls would spend on a hand-bag. Owain |
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Mr Pounder Esquire wrote: I remember having an apprentice, he was 21. We were hanging fire extinguishers on the walls in a very posh accountants office. I asked him if he knew how to use a drill and a screwdriver. He said yes. I left him to it. The next day I had to go back as what he had done had fallen off the walls. He made me look like a right ****. Fixing something heavy to a wall is not something I'd leave to anyone, unless I was certain they knew how to do such a job. -- *And don't start a sentence with a conjunction * Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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Adam's apprentices
On Sat, 7 Dec 2019 17:46:49 +0000, soup wrote:
But still easyly available, so someone must be buying them. I found it nearly impossible (well almost) to buy old style Meccano (you know with a multitude of bits you could make into anything). Instead it seemed to be all kits you could make into ONE specific thing So each of these kits uses *only* parts unique to that kit/model? Not mostly generic parts with one or two "specials"? Themed kits are a way to hook into the band wagon of big marketing budgets for that theme. Remember we are dealing with kids/people with under stimulated imaginations. Put two identical "kits" on the shelf next to each other with the same price tag. One just listing and showing the parts in the box, the other with a major theme (Star Wars, Harry Potter, WHY) and a picture of what the kit will build. Which one will sell the most? -- Cheers Dave. |
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