On 3/16/2017 12:00 PM, trader_4 wrote:
On Thursday, March 16, 2017 at 12:45:33 PM UTC-4, Muggles wrote:
On 3/16/2017 10:49 AM, trader_4 wrote:
On Thursday, March 16, 2017 at 11:38:58 AM UTC-4, Muggles wrote:
On 3/16/2017 10:10 AM, trader_4 wrote:

"interesting topic" "interesting home repair topic"

Someone else said that this group was like people meeting up at the
hardware store. At first they talk about the project they're working
on, and then they start talking about other things that are on their
minds.

Except of course, as Art pointed out, that isn't what's happening anymore.
The overwhelming number of new threads are totally off topic, mostly
from a couple of Trumpets. It's 25 or 50 to one.

Always blame someone else if you're not happy about something, right?


Just stating the most obvious facts. Do you deny that the overwhelming
number of new threads, the core of the pollution problem, is in fact
a couple of Trump whackos starting one new political, usually Trump
centered, post after another?

I don't see the majority of threads from "whackos" because I've got the
"whackos" blocked!

And then of course we have you, who will argue obvious facts that the
rest of us see and know to be true, just to have something to argue
about. Like that BS you started about "lying". Everyone else here
was on the same page, that you were full of ****, just arguing to argue,
as usual.

If you don't like something I've said, ignore it. Who is forcing ANYONE
to respond to anything I post? So, if someone is "arguing with me",
it's because they WANT TO!

NEVER, EVER go to the trouble of being a leader instead of a follower
and do something about what you're unhappy about! geez.


What do you suggest we do about it? How can I save AHR?

Download thunderbird, set up newsgroups and filters, and then enjoy
reading and responding to the post you want to see.

Simple!


I didn't want to see cross-posts or spammers, so instead of complaining
about those posts showing up here, I decided to use my built-in tbird
filter and block everything I didn't want to see!


As I and others have explained to you, that doesn't fix the problem
of the newsgroup dying.

The newsgroup is NOT dying! It may change, but people are still posting
here, so it obviously isn't dead.


People who are not regulars here don't have
filters.

Oh well, who's fault is that?


They have a question about home repair, see 50 threads about
politics, and move on.

What's stopping them from posting their question? Themselves.


It doesn't take much in the way of connected
brain cells to see how the group then slowly dies. And it's not just
AHR, most newsgroups are dying, many of them aided by whacko trolls.

We will NEVER be rid of whacko trolls, so, the solution is to ignore them.


OH MY FREAKING GOSH!! I'm not an unhappy camper any more seeing stuff I
don't want to see!

It doesn't take an IT degree to figure out and use a tbird filter.
That's what it's there for.

YOU can't control what OTHER people do, BUT you CAN control what you do,
so get off of your fingers, download thunderbird, set up a server and
newsgroups, figure out how to use the filters, and stop using google
groups if you don't like to see OT posts here.

And BTW, you could stop contributing to the threads that are OT while
you're at it.

good grief, already ......



The village idiot rides again! You're one of the newcomers who has
only made things worse.

I've been here probably a couple of years, now. So, that's not exactly a
new comer.


Some of these trolls appear to have followed
you here, they arrived at the same time.

I wouldn't know because I've blocked everyone I consider to be a troll,
all cross-posters, and various other criteria I don't want to bother
reading.

--
Maggie

On Thu, 16 Mar 2017 18:32:14 GMT, "Tekkie®"
wrote:

Art, keep hanging in there. It's getting better. Once one gets past the
political and Homemoaners hub stuff there is some good stuff. You will have
to learn to filter some posters but then it's good. I encourage you to stick
around as you were a good guy in past posts.

+1 I recall when this group was invaded by Sporge attacks. It
survived. Lately, I'm trying to bite my tongue and often try to help
folks when and where I can. Danny D. subjects has/had threads into
100s of replies. People got on his case, but the posts did stay on
subject.

RoNNN warned us months ago when this new bunch of ass-hats showed up.

I'd like to slap the freckles from their faces :-)

On 3/16/2017 12:08 PM, trader_4 wrote:
On Thursday, March 16, 2017 at 12:49:02 PM UTC-4, Muggles wrote:
On 3/16/2017 10:49 AM, trader_4 wrote:
On Thursday, March 16, 2017 at 11:38:58 AM UTC-4, Muggles wrote:
On 3/16/2017 10:10 AM, trader_4 wrote:

The last week all I've seen are people talking about their projects with
one or two side political posts, but that's because I FILTER out the
stuff I'm not interested in.


And what does someone new who shows up see? Follow it to it's
logical conclusion. You have a dwindling number.

WAAAAAAAA! If they're scared away by stuff they don't like, then they
shouldn't be venturing out into the real world.


You really are the ****ing village idiot. It's not an issue of being
scared away, it's an issue of figuring that a forum that is full of

blah blah blah ... bla blah blah blah ....

Download thunderbird and engage the filters = happy newsgroup reader/poster.


[...]


--
Maggie

On 3/16/2017 2:17 PM, Wayne Normandy wrote:
In article , says...

This was a really sad morning. I have been reading alt.home.repair and
a few other groups for many years and this morning signaled the end.
There was nothing but garbage. I even re-read an old thread, just to
make my brain somewhat happy.

It was killed by GOP crackers. Like Trump, they just can't keep their traps shut.
Buford Pussy
Muzzles
Tee
And all of the other Trumpets.

I've seen it happen to many groups. Usually right-wing deviant crackers or
sexual deviants come in and **** and **** all over the place like untrained dogs.
There's no accountability.
Of course, decent people flee the place.
Soon enough all that's left is trash.
The big mistake made here was decent people responding to the GOP trash-talkers.
They are then just monkeys keeping the ball rolling.
That's just how it is.
No big loss, just life in America. You'll find something else to do.




Most in group are working class people and unlike the haters on the left.

On Thu, 16 Mar 2017 13:43:10 -0400, Meanie wrote:

On 3/16/2017 1:11 PM, trader_4 wrote:
On Thursday, March 16, 2017 at 1:04:01 PM UTC-4, Meanie wrote:
On 3/16/2017 11:49 AM, trader_4 wrote:

Snip

Seriously? Do you know how often I log on, click on this newsgroup and
view all the subjects starting with just a few...

Clapper said No collusion between trump campaign and Russia or
Keystone pipeline won't use US steel despite Trump pledge

or some which you do start such as....

OT: For the Trumpets who think Trump changed..... or how about
OT: King Trump, the intellectual, on healthcare.

All displaying From: Trader_4

No, you're not the main culprit, but you are an addition to the cesspool.

+1

On Thursday, March 16, 2017 at 11:15:35 AM UTC-4, trader_4 wrote:
On Thursday, March 16, 2017 at 11:07:12 AM UTC-4, Pat wrote:
On Thu, 16 Mar 2017 14:46:55 -0000 (UTC), HerHusband
wrote:

Hi Art,

This was a really sad morning. I have been reading alt.home.repair and
a few other groups for many years and this morning signaled the end.
There was nothing but garbage.

I can relate. After years of reading usenet groups, all that seems to be
left are political and religious arguments and name calling.

I can't remember the last time there were more than one or two serious
discussions related to home repair in this group.

Several other groups I watch have been in similar decline.

It's sad, usenet was a convenient way to discuss a variety of topics
without having to visit individual web forums. It takes too much time and
hassle to visit and log in to each forum, so I tend not to visit most of
the ones that do interest me.

It was good while it lasted...

Anthony Watson
www.watsondiy.com
www.mountainsoftware.com

I think this has been mentioned before, but why can't we create an
alt.home.repair.moderated? All the moderators would need to do is
allow any post that is even remotely on topic. Those who post
political garbage or name calling would not be permitted. And my
favorite - those who post links to news stories without even
commenting (as though the rest of us are too stupid to watch the news)
would also be blocked.

Pat

I'd be in favor of it. Does anyone here have experience in how to
go about doing it?

Send an email to the folks that run Homeowners Hub. They know how to run a
moderated forum.



We either stop having this massive abuse with
one OT post after another or AHR is finished.

On Thursday, March 16, 2017 at 9:58:25 AM UTC-4, Oren wrote:
On Thu, 16 Mar 2017 14:52:30 +0200, Micky
wrote:

On Thu, 16 Mar 2017 08:42:33 -0400, Art Todesco
wrote:

This was a really sad morning. I have been reading alt.home.repair and
a few other groups for many years and this morning signaled the end.
There was nothing but garbage. I even re-read an old thread, just to
make my brain somewhat happy.

Well, I'm here.

If I rented a new or nearly new small cheap Kia (a Picanto, maybe
cheaper than anything sold in the US) and 10" below the radio in a
separate cove just in front of the gear shift, there is a small hole
marked AUX and a USB style jack marked USB, what are the odds the AUX
will be an input to the radio?

What are the odds the USB will be an input to the radio.

The radio here is not my taste, and I refuse to spend the money for
Serious radio since I'm a light-hearted guy, but I would record off
the comptuer to a flashdrive, or use the phone to output to the radio,
if either were possible.

_One huge mistake people make when renting cars _

"If you ever rent a car, make sure you don't make this mistake! It
could even happen to you if you are selling your car."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-dLxYnIBr0

One of the first things I do when I rent a car is delete the info stored in the headunit. Sometimes
a half dozen phones show up.

On Thu, 16 Mar 2017 11:45:33 -0500, Muggles
wrote:

On 3/16/2017 10:49 AM, trader_4 wrote:
On Thursday, March 16, 2017 at 11:38:58 AM UTC-4, Muggles wrote:
On 3/16/2017 10:10 AM, trader_4 wrote:

"interesting topic" "interesting home repair topic"

Someone else said that this group was like people meeting up at the
hardware store. At first they talk about the project they're working
on, and then they start talking about other things that are on their
minds.

Except of course, as Art pointed out, that isn't what's happening anymore.
The overwhelming number of new threads are totally off topic, mostly
from a couple of Trumpets. It's 25 or 50 to one.

Always blame someone else if you're not happy about something, right?
NEVER, EVER go to the trouble of being a leader instead of a follower
and do something about what you're unhappy about! geez.

I didn't want to see cross-posts or spammers, so instead of complaining
about those posts showing up here, I decided to use my built-in tbird
filter and block everything I didn't want to see!

OH MY FREAKING GOSH!! I'm not an unhappy camper any more seeing stuff I
don't want to see!

It doesn't take an IT degree to figure out and use a tbird filter.
That's what it's there for.

YOU can't control what OTHER people do, BUT you CAN control what you do,
so get off of your fingers, download thunderbird, set up a server and
newsgroups, figure out how to use the filters, and stop using google
groups if you don't like to see OT posts here.

And BTW, you could stop contributing to the threads that are OT while
you're at it.

good grief, already ......
So you filter all the home repair stuff and only read the off-topic
stuff?

Now you are in my filter too - thwere hasn't been a sylable, much less
a sentance of home repair messages from you since about November.

On Thu, 16 Mar 2017 13:01:10 -0400, wrote:



My 2016 KIA Sorento takes thumb drives formatted in FAT32. I am using
a 128g drive with over 7000 mp3's on it. When inserted the first time,
the radio reads it in, which takes several minutes depending on number
of songs. After that, as soon as I open the car door I see the USB
activity light come on, and the music is ready to play as soon as the
key is turned on.


That sounds great.
What gave me doubts is that the jack is 10 inches away instead of on
the face of the radio, like I've seen twice before.



I'm betting on usb charging only.
My Kia has it near the cig-lighter charging sockets,
not near the radio.
John T.
The Kia Radios are virtually all MP3 enabled today - and that means
the USB IS an MP3 compatible input, not just a charging port. There is
no other way (other than a CD) to inout MP3 to the radio..

The location doesn't mean a thing - lots of cars have the AUX and USB
ports in the compartment in the arm-rest/console because that is a
good place to put your phone/MP# player. Just like the little "bubby"
below the radio on the KIA.

On Thu, 16 Mar 2017 13:14:21 -0400, wrote:



My 2016 KIA Sorento takes thumb drives formatted in FAT32. I am using
a 128g drive with over 7000 mp3's on it. When inserted the first time,
the radio reads it in, which takes several minutes depending on number
of songs. After that, as soon as I open the car door I see the USB
activity light come on, and the music is ready to play as soon as the
key is turned on.


That sounds great.
What gave me doubts is that the jack is 10 inches away instead of on
the face of the radio, like I've seen twice before.



I'm betting on usb charging only.
My Kia has it near the cig-lighter charging sockets,
not near the radio.
John T.


DOH ! .. good thing that I'm not a betting man.
I just checked my owners manual and apparently the usb socket
is indeed an audio input - it's beside the aux audio input jack -
that I never noticed ..
The manual warns to have the usb device removed
when starting the car - not sure how serious a risk it is
or just ass-covering.
John T.
Definitely "ass covering" - but there is always the risk of a voltage
surge when starting that COULD kill your device.. Just like removing a
USB stick from your computer without "ejecting" the media first.

On Thu, 16 Mar 2017 18:27:15 GMT, "Tekkie®"
wrote:

I haven't seen this yet in the stores... We used to use the regular stuff on
the apparatus and it worked very well. Beat drilling holes through the sheet
metal and then have to try to rustproof the hole. I wonder what the new
stuff does the old stuff doesn't...
WHAT??????

On Thu, 16 Mar 2017 12:39:08 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
wrote:

_One huge mistake people make when renting cars _

"If you ever rent a car, make sure you don't make this mistake! It
could even happen to you if you are selling your car."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-dLxYnIBr0

One of the first things I do when I rent a car is delete the info stored in the headunit. Sometimes
a half dozen phones show up.

Maybe drug deals & Hookers? Meh.

Another point; if you buy a used cell phone -- reset it to factory
settings. Never know what cooties it may have in there for malware,
etc..

On Thu, 16 Mar 2017 12:39:08 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
wrote:

On Thursday, March 16, 2017 at 9:58:25 AM UTC-4, Oren wrote:
On Thu, 16 Mar 2017 14:52:30 +0200, Micky
wrote:

On Thu, 16 Mar 2017 08:42:33 -0400, Art Todesco
wrote:

This was a really sad morning. I have been reading alt.home.repair and
a few other groups for many years and this morning signaled the end.
There was nothing but garbage. I even re-read an old thread, just to
make my brain somewhat happy.

Well, I'm here.

If I rented a new or nearly new small cheap Kia (a Picanto, maybe
cheaper than anything sold in the US) and 10" below the radio in a
separate cove just in front of the gear shift, there is a small hole
marked AUX and a USB style jack marked USB, what are the odds the AUX
will be an input to the radio?

What are the odds the USB will be an input to the radio.

The radio here is not my taste, and I refuse to spend the money for
Serious radio since I'm a light-hearted guy, but I would record off
the comptuer to a flashdrive, or use the phone to output to the radio,
if either were possible.

_One huge mistake people make when renting cars _

"If you ever rent a car, make sure you don't make this mistake! It
could even happen to you if you are selling your car."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-dLxYnIBr0

One of the first things I do when I rent a car is delete the info stored in the headunit. Sometimes
a half dozen phones show up.
So far I haven't had that problem. I don't buy used vehicles new
enough to have that problem- - -

On Thursday, March 16, 2017 at 7:42:36 AM UTC-5, Art Todesco wrote:
This was a really sad morning. I have been reading alt.home.repair and
a few other groups for many years and this morning signaled the end.
There was nothing but garbage. I even re-read an old thread, just to
make my brain somewhat happy.

What do you wish to discuss pertaining to home repair/maintenance/improvement? In the modern era it has expanded to include all things such as automotive, power yard equipment plus appliance/HVAC/plumbing/electrical/electronic/computer related problems. It's a discussion of everything regarding a home including the repair of your spouse and children. Perhaps if people would stop feeding the trolls, like all vermin they'll go away if there is nothing to eat. ヽ(ヅ)ノ

[8~{} Uncle Broken Monster

On Thu, 16 Mar 2017 16:19:20 -0400, wrote:

So you filter all the home repair stuff and only read the off-topic
stuff?

Now you are in my filter too - thwere hasn't been a sylable, much less
a sentance of home repair messages from you since about November.

Not even a follow-up from advice given. Posting as "Rebel" about
drywall and more recently about the tub faucet that needed two, maybe
three plumbers to fix. If it was fixed. I'd like to know the cost of
those plumbers vs a new faucet or if they fixed it at all.

Females are secretive; don't you think?

On 3/16/2017 3:19 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 16 Mar 2017 11:45:33 -0500, Muggles
wrote:

On 3/16/2017 10:49 AM, trader_4 wrote:
On Thursday, March 16, 2017 at 11:38:58 AM UTC-4, Muggles wrote:
On 3/16/2017 10:10 AM, trader_4 wrote:

"interesting topic" "interesting home repair topic"

Someone else said that this group was like people meeting up at the
hardware store. At first they talk about the project they're working
on, and then they start talking about other things that are on their
minds.

Except of course, as Art pointed out, that isn't what's happening anymore.
The overwhelming number of new threads are totally off topic, mostly
from a couple of Trumpets. It's 25 or 50 to one.

Always blame someone else if you're not happy about something, right?
NEVER, EVER go to the trouble of being a leader instead of a follower
and do something about what you're unhappy about! geez.

I didn't want to see cross-posts or spammers, so instead of complaining
about those posts showing up here, I decided to use my built-in tbird
filter and block everything I didn't want to see!

OH MY FREAKING GOSH!! I'm not an unhappy camper any more seeing stuff I
don't want to see!

It doesn't take an IT degree to figure out and use a tbird filter.
That's what it's there for.

YOU can't control what OTHER people do, BUT you CAN control what you do,
so get off of your fingers, download thunderbird, set up a server and
newsgroups, figure out how to use the filters, and stop using google
groups if you don't like to see OT posts here.

And BTW, you could stop contributing to the threads that are OT while
you're at it.

good grief, already ......

So you filter all the home repair stuff and only read the off-topic
stuff?

No ... I read most of the home repair stuff because I don't know how to
do most of it, and I learn from what others post. Some things I don't
really understand like all the discussions about electricity and wiring
things, but I still try to read some of those, too.

I also read some of the OT threads. Some, I respond to, many I don't
respond to.

Now you are in my filter too - thwere hasn't been a sylable, much less
a sentance of home repair messages from you since about November.


shrugs I'm not a home DYI repair person as much as I read about what
others repair. I have asked different questions about projects I've had
around the house while I've been here, but since it's winter, I hadn't
had any projects going that I needed to ask any questions about.

--
Maggie

On 3/16/2017 3:48 PM, Oren wrote:
On Thu, 16 Mar 2017 16:19:20 -0400, wrote:

So you filter all the home repair stuff and only read the off-topic
stuff?

Now you are in my filter too - thwere hasn't been a sylable, much less
a sentance of home repair messages from you since about November.


Not even a follow-up from advice given. Posting as "Rebel" about
drywall and more recently about the tub faucet that needed two, maybe
three plumbers to fix. If it was fixed. I'd like to know the cost of
those plumbers vs a new faucet or if they fixed it at all.

I remember posting that we had to have a second plumber come out to fix
the faucet. It didn't seem like it was all that important to post more
info on it, but if you REALLY want to know .... lol

The second plumber couldn't fix or replace the faucet because it had a
part in it that they couldn't order, so we had to buy a new faucet
online and when it was delivered the second plumber came out and
installed it. I don't remember exactly how much it cost, but the faucet
was something like $130 +/- and the plumber was a service call, about $110.


Females are secretive; don't you think?


sshhhhhhhhhhhh don't tell anyone.

--
Maggie

On Thu, 16 Mar 2017 13:14:21 -0400, wrote:



My 2016 KIA Sorento takes thumb drives formatted in FAT32. I am using
a 128g drive with over 7000 mp3's on it. When inserted the first time,
the radio reads it in, which takes several minutes depending on number
of songs. After that, as soon as I open the car door I see the USB
activity light come on, and the music is ready to play as soon as the
key is turned on.


That sounds great.
What gave me doubts is that the jack is 10 inches away instead of on
the face of the radio, like I've seen twice before.



I'm betting on usb charging only.
My Kia has it near the cig-lighter charging sockets,
not near the radio.
John T.


DOH ! .. good thing that I'm not a betting man.
I just checked my owners manual and apparently the usb socket
is indeed an audio input - it's beside the aux audio input jack -
that I never noticed ..
The manual warns to have the usb device removed
when starting the car - not sure how serious a risk it is
or just ass-covering.
John T.

Thanks for getting back to me. After my mini-high when I thought it
would work, I had a mini-low when a Kia-owner said it didn't.

So we both came out ahead on this one.

I just checked my owners manual and apparently the usb socket
is indeed an audio input - it's beside the aux audio input jack -
that I never noticed ..
The manual warns to have the usb device removed
when starting the car - not sure how serious a risk it is
or just ass-covering.
John T.


Thanks for getting back to me. After my mini-high when I thought it
would work, I had a mini-low when a Kia-owner said it didn't.
So we both came out ahead on this one.



Now to load up a flash drive with MP3's and try it out.
I wonder if the radio will read a flash drive and provide some player
functionality ? or do I need a MP3 Player ?
John T.

On Thursday, March 16, 2017 at 2:50:46 PM UTC-4, Muggles wrote:
On 3/16/2017 12:00 PM, trader_4 wrote:
On Thursday, March 16, 2017 at 12:45:33 PM UTC-4, Muggles wrote:
On 3/16/2017 10:49 AM, trader_4 wrote:
On Thursday, March 16, 2017 at 11:38:58 AM UTC-4, Muggles wrote:
On 3/16/2017 10:10 AM, trader_4 wrote:

"interesting topic" "interesting home repair topic"

Someone else said that this group was like people meeting up at the
hardware store. At first they talk about the project they're working
on, and then they start talking about other things that are on their
minds.

Except of course, as Art pointed out, that isn't what's happening anymore.
The overwhelming number of new threads are totally off topic, mostly
from a couple of Trumpets. It's 25 or 50 to one.

Always blame someone else if you're not happy about something, right?


Just stating the most obvious facts. Do you deny that the overwhelming
number of new threads, the core of the pollution problem, is in fact
a couple of Trump whackos starting one new political, usually Trump
centered, post after another?

I don't see the majority of threads from "whackos" because I've got the
"whackos" blocked!


Then take off the filters for 5 mins and see what someone new or
someone who only comes here rarely, ie those without filters sees.
THAT is the problem. Someone who is new sees 50 BS posts and
figures it's useless. The fact that you don't see them doesn't mean
they are not there, capiche?




And then of course we have you, who will argue obvious facts that the
rest of us see and know to be true, just to have something to argue
about. Like that BS you started about "lying". Everyone else here
was on the same page, that you were full of ****, just arguing to argue,
as usual.

If you don't like something I've said, ignore it. Who is forcing ANYONE
to respond to anything I post? So, if someone is "arguing with me",
it's because they WANT TO!

NEVER, EVER go to the trouble of being a leader instead of a follower
and do something about what you're unhappy about! geez.


What do you suggest we do about it? How can I save AHR?

Download thunderbird, set up newsgroups and filters, and then enjoy
reading and responding to the post you want to see.

Simple!


Again, you're the only one here who doesn't see how that doesn't
solve the problem of a newsgroup dying from pollution.





I didn't want to see cross-posts or spammers, so instead of complaining
about those posts showing up here, I decided to use my built-in tbird
filter and block everything I didn't want to see!


As I and others have explained to you, that doesn't fix the problem
of the newsgroup dying.

The newsgroup is NOT dying! It may change, but people are still posting
here, so it obviously isn't dead.


Again, more BS denial. As Art pointed out, the number of on topic,
AHR threads is dwindling, the number of BS mostly pro-Trump threads
is 20 times the number of legitimate ones.




People who are not regulars here don't have
filters.

Oh well, who's fault is that?


It's no one's fault, idiot. Obviously someone who has a question,
comes here for the first time, isn't going to have filters set.
Nor are they going to spend the time to figure out which posters
are the source of the problem, set filters, etc. They just see
a big, hot BS mess and move on. THAT is why it's killing the
newsgroup.




They have a question about home repair, see 50 threads about
politics, and move on.

What's stopping them from posting their question? Themselves.


What's stopping them is that they don't see AHR threads, they
see an overwhelming number of political threads, most of them
pro-Trump, anti liberal, BS ones. Back to the paint store analogy,
if you went into a paint store and instead of paint you saw mostly
kids toys, junk auto parts, etc, would you spend the time to figure
out what's going on or would you just leave? Good grief!




It doesn't take much in the way of connected
brain cells to see how the group then slowly dies. And it's not just
AHR, most newsgroups are dying, many of them aided by whacko trolls.

We will NEVER be rid of whacko trolls, so, the solution is to ignore them.


You're one, so I guess you would know.





OH MY FREAKING GOSH!! I'm not an unhappy camper any more seeing stuff I
don't want to see!

It doesn't take an IT degree to figure out and use a tbird filter.
That's what it's there for.

YOU can't control what OTHER people do, BUT you CAN control what you do,
so get off of your fingers, download thunderbird, set up a server and
newsgroups, figure out how to use the filters, and stop using google
groups if you don't like to see OT posts here.

And BTW, you could stop contributing to the threads that are OT while
you're at it.

good grief, already ......



The village idiot rides again! You're one of the newcomers who has
only made things worse.

I've been here probably a couple of years, now. So, that's not exactly a
new comer.







Some of these trolls appear to have followed
you here, they arrived at the same time.

I wouldn't know because I've blocked everyone I consider to be a troll,
all cross-posters, and various other criteria I don't want to bother
reading.

--
Maggie

More BS. If you blocked them, then you know that they are trolls and
whether or not they followed you from other newsgroups. I've seen
several posters claim you were driven out of some newsgroup called
"scorched.earth.politics" or similar. Sounds exactly like a place
you, BJT, the colonel, and some of the others would be right at home
in.

On Thursday, March 16, 2017 at 4:19:22 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Thu, 16 Mar 2017 11:45:33 -0500, Muggles
wrote:

On 3/16/2017 10:49 AM, trader_4 wrote:
On Thursday, March 16, 2017 at 11:38:58 AM UTC-4, Muggles wrote:
On 3/16/2017 10:10 AM, trader_4 wrote:

"interesting topic" "interesting home repair topic"

Someone else said that this group was like people meeting up at the
hardware store. At first they talk about the project they're working
on, and then they start talking about other things that are on their
minds.

Except of course, as Art pointed out, that isn't what's happening anymore.
The overwhelming number of new threads are totally off topic, mostly
from a couple of Trumpets. It's 25 or 50 to one.

Always blame someone else if you're not happy about something, right?
NEVER, EVER go to the trouble of being a leader instead of a follower
and do something about what you're unhappy about! geez.

I didn't want to see cross-posts or spammers, so instead of complaining
about those posts showing up here, I decided to use my built-in tbird
filter and block everything I didn't want to see!

OH MY FREAKING GOSH!! I'm not an unhappy camper any more seeing stuff I
don't want to see!

It doesn't take an IT degree to figure out and use a tbird filter.
That's what it's there for.

YOU can't control what OTHER people do, BUT you CAN control what you do,
so get off of your fingers, download thunderbird, set up a server and
newsgroups, figure out how to use the filters, and stop using google
groups if you don't like to see OT posts here.

And BTW, you could stop contributing to the threads that are OT while
you're at it.

good grief, already ......
So you filter all the home repair stuff and only read the off-topic
stuff?

Now you are in my filter too - thwere hasn't been a sylable, much less
a sentance of home repair messages from you since about November.

+1

On Thursday, March 16, 2017 at 3:13:23 PM UTC-4, Frank wrote:
On 3/16/2017 2:17 PM, Wayne Normandy wrote:
In article , says...

This was a really sad morning. I have been reading alt.home.repair and
a few other groups for many years and this morning signaled the end.
There was nothing but garbage. I even re-read an old thread, just to
make my brain somewhat happy.

It was killed by GOP crackers. Like Trump, they just can't keep their traps shut.
Buford Pussy
Muzzles
Tee
And all of the other Trumpets.

I've seen it happen to many groups. Usually right-wing deviant crackers or
sexual deviants come in and **** and **** all over the place like untrained dogs.
There's no accountability.
Of course, decent people flee the place.
Soon enough all that's left is trash.
The big mistake made here was decent people responding to the GOP trash-talkers.
They are then just monkeys keeping the ball rolling.
That's just how it is.
No big loss, just life in America. You'll find something else to do.




Most in group are working class people and unlike the haters on the left.

IDK what most people in the group are, but obviously the vast majority
of the increasing number of off topic posts are in fact political ones
from Trump supporting, right wing jerks. And there are just as many
haters on the right as on the left.

On Thu, 16 Mar 2017 16:43:17 -0700 (PDT), trader_4 wrote:

On Thursday, March 16, 2017 at 3:13:23 PM UTC-4, Frank wrote:
On 3/16/2017 2:17 PM, Wayne Normandy wrote:
In article , says...

Snip

Most in group are working class people and unlike the haters on the left.

IDK what most people in the group are, but obviously the vast majority
of the increasing number of off topic posts are in fact political ones
from Trump supporting, right wing jerks. And there are just as many
haters on the right as on the left.

You poor, poor man. Please get back on your meds.

On Thursday, March 16, 2017 at 7:54:54 PM UTC-4, Gordon Shumway wrote:
On Thu, 16 Mar 2017 16:43:17 -0700 (PDT), trader_4 wrote:

On Thursday, March 16, 2017 at 3:13:23 PM UTC-4, Frank wrote:
On 3/16/2017 2:17 PM, Wayne Normandy wrote:
In article , says...

Snip

Most in group are working class people and unlike the haters on the left.

IDK what most people in the group are, but obviously the vast majority
of the increasing number of off topic posts are in fact political ones
from Trump supporting, right wing jerks. And there are just as many
haters on the right as on the left.

You poor, poor man. Please get back on your meds.

Are you in denial too? Are you denying that the overwhelming number of
OT new threads that now out number real home repair ones here by 25X,
polluting the newsgroup, are political ones from pro-Trump, right
wingers? Must you Trumpets deny even the most basic truths? BTW,
I didn't start this thread either. Art did and he has a legitimate point.

On Thu, 16 Mar 2017 18:54:14 -0500, Gordon Shumway
wrote:

You poor, poor man. Please get back on your meds.

.... careful is the man that try's to scale a barb wire fence.

:-)

On Thu, 16 Mar 2017 15:57:23 -0500, Muggles
wrote:

On 3/16/2017 3:48 PM, Oren wrote:
On Thu, 16 Mar 2017 16:19:20 -0400, wrote:

So you filter all the home repair stuff and only read the off-topic
stuff?

Now you are in my filter too - thwere hasn't been a sylable, much less
a sentance of home repair messages from you since about November.


Not even a follow-up from advice given. Posting as "Rebel" about
drywall and more recently about the tub faucet that needed two, maybe
three plumbers to fix. If it was fixed. I'd like to know the cost of
those plumbers vs a new faucet or if they fixed it at all.

I remember posting that we had to have a second plumber come out to fix
the faucet. It didn't seem like it was all that important to post more
info on it, but if you REALLY want to know .... lol

The second plumber couldn't fix or replace the faucet because it had a
part in it that they couldn't order, so we had to buy a new faucet
online and when it was delivered the second plumber came out and
installed it. I don't remember exactly how much it cost, but the faucet
was something like $130 +/- and the plumber was a service call, about $110.


Females are secretive; don't you think?


sshhhhhhhhhhhh don't tell anyone.

If I asked about some project I most often give the final results of
what turned out, if it failed or I can't fix it, make it better or
don't have the tools or skills to do what was suggested. I noticed
that with you and some of the home groaners or goggle posters.

Participation in a group like this is not a one-way street, ya know.
You kept doing this with your fish pond/garden thread.

You damn women just yap yap yap and call yourself "communicating".
Next thing is you'll interrupt me while I'm talking or say "I didn't
say that" when you know damn well you did. Own up! It must be tough
being a woman. Just when I think I got you creatures figured out you
change the gawd damn rules.

On Thu, 16 Mar 2017 15:51:28 -0500, Muggles
wrote:


No ... I read most of the home repair stuff because I don't know how to
do most of it, and I learn from what others post. Some things I don't
really understand like all the discussions about electricity and wiring
things, but I still try to read some of those, too.

I also read some of the OT threads. Some, I respond to, many I don't
respond to.


YOU are many more of the regulars on alt.home.repair are the ones
responsible tor the destruction of this NG. And *YOU* are one of the
worst. The reason is that you and these others continue to post replies
to the politics and other OT crap on here. Why even bother to killfile
if you keep these posts going. If everyone here who comes here for the
RIGHT reason, filtered out the abusers, and NEVER replied to ANYTHING
they post, they would have gone away by now. Everytime you post a
followup to their garbage, YOU are FEEDING THEM.

If you go to a party and no one there talks to you, or lets you have any
food or drink, you wont go back to that party. Think about that!

I used this NG going back to the 90's. I have given up on it, because
even though I filtered all the abusers, you regulars keep feeding them
and thus flooding this group with ****. Most of the time I come here
now, the nerw posts are either OT crap, or replies to Homeownershub
crap. Most of the time I just delete all the posts and leave. In the
past month, I only read about 5 posts on here that were ON topic and
Current, (not old **** from the hub).
It's not evne worth my time to open this group anymore...

And think about this: If an outsider comes to this group to ask about an
ON topic issue, and sees the headers, they wont evne post. They will
just see a group filled with rubbish and leave.

I have nothing further to say. The current status of this group disgusts
me! This group is nothing but a pile of rubbish now, and serves no
purpose whatsoever.

On 3/16/2017 8:21 PM, trader_4 wrote:
On Thursday, March 16, 2017 at 7:54:54 PM UTC-4, Gordon Shumway wrote:
On Thu, 16 Mar 2017 16:43:17 -0700 (PDT), trader_4 wrote:

On Thursday, March 16, 2017 at 3:13:23 PM UTC-4, Frank wrote:
On 3/16/2017 2:17 PM, Wayne Normandy wrote:
In article , says...

Snip

Most in group are working class people and unlike the haters on the left.

IDK what most people in the group are, but obviously the vast majority
of the increasing number of off topic posts are in fact political ones
from Trump supporting, right wing jerks. And there are just as many
haters on the right as on the left.

You poor, poor man. Please get back on your meds.

Are you in denial too? Are you denying that the overwhelming number of
OT new threads that now out number real home repair ones here by 25X,
polluting the newsgroup, are political ones from pro-Trump, right
wingers? Must you Trumpets deny even the most basic truths? BTW,
I didn't start this thread either. Art did and he has a legitimate point.


Are you seriously that blind? Even after I replied with examples of your
contributions you still have the audacity to blame others.

You clearly prove the problem. You only see what you want to see,
though, most of us already knew that.

On Thu, 16 Mar 2017 13:48:01 -0700, Oren wrote:

On Thu, 16 Mar 2017 16:19:20 -0400, wrote:

So you filter all the home repair stuff and only read the off-topic
stuff?

Now you are in my filter too - thwere hasn't been a sylable, much less
a sentance of home repair messages from you since about November.

Not even a follow-up from advice given. Posting as "Rebel" about
drywall and more recently about the tub faucet that needed two, maybe
three plumbers to fix. If it was fixed. I'd like to know the cost of
those plumbers vs a new faucet or if they fixed it at all.

Females are secretive; don't you think?
On the plumbing topic. The last original plumbing fixture in out 40+
year old house was the tub set - an old EMCO with a pull diverter -
taps on 8 incg centers - used the old 1157 integrated cartridges. The
cold tap was getting stiff - and one (not sure which one)
occaisionally dripped when shut off. I got a pair of replacements from
"home plumber" and proceded to change them. Instead of the 3/4 turn
the originals turned from full on to full off, these only turned 1/4
turn - and when I turned the water back on I could not shut off the
water. Upon investigation I found the lip around where the cold
cartridge fit had cracked - so new cartridges were NOT going to be the
answer.
The tub has a fiberglass one piece surround - NO WAY was I going in
from the front!!.
On the backside of the tub wall is a linen closet with 4 removeable
shelves, sitting on 1X4 cleats. I cut a hole between the bottom 2
shelves to expose the tap set from behind. I found the original
plumber was a bit smarter than the average bear - he had installed the
tap-set with threaded unions on both inlets as well as on the shower
riser- so removing the "carcass" wasn't going to be a problem.
I spent 4 hours checking all my local suppliers for a relacement 8" 3
handle set to use as a replacement o there were 4 holes in the
fiberglass surround that I needed to fill!! Glenbriar Home Hardware
had a set available - but not in stock - 2 week order time - $375 for
the trim set, plus the rough-in kit.
Marks Supply (the wholesaler) didn't have it in stock either - Home
Despot didn't have anything remotely close - most 8 inch sets used the
diverter on the tub spout - leaving an empty hole and a diverter that
ALWAYS leaks.
I finally found a Danze set at Canadian Tire for $165 with a twist
handle diverter in the center. -all holes would be filled, and a
"real" diverter.. It had big "unions" for the inlets, with 1/2 inch
internal pipe threads. I had already picked up 3 brass unions from
Home Despot and a couple copper pipe caps so I could turn the water
back on overnight - no way I was finishing the job that night.
I unsoldered the copper pipes from the old set and capped them,
re-using the old unions because the new ones wouldn't fit the old ones
(what else is new?)
Next afternoon I took the measurements I took from the old set before
unsoldering the pipes, and figured out where I had to cut the old
pipes to get the right length to make the new set fit without having
to unsolder / resolder the pipes inside the wall. I needed 1/2 inch
male pipe to 1/2" copper female fittings the thread into the unions
on the taps as well as th thread into the shower output - no brass
available - only the ****ty new copper parts with nasty threads. I
also picked up 1/2" brass pipe nipples in various lengths and an elbow
for the spout piping.- Home Despot didn't have a 4 inch nipple - and
it ended up that was ONE of the sizes I needed. (ended up making
another trip to Glenbriar Home Hardware to get that). I got everything
all fitted up and soldered, and used teflon pipe thread sealer on all
the threaded fittings - put it all in (had to chisel a slot in both
studs for clearance for the unions on the tap) and turned on the water
- and wouldn't you know I had one leak. I pulled the short piece
between the two unions on the hot side and resoldered all the joints -
they seamed OK - and put tape on the thread instead of compound -
re-installed it and went to bed. In the morning there was a puddle on
the kitchen stove and counter - I went up to the tub, and wouldn't
you know it, the theaded joint on the hoy side has a little drip on it
-the compound hadn't done the job their either. I called into my
morning contract to let them know I was going to be late and pulled
the short section out of the hot side, taped the joint, and
reinstalled it.

I finally has a dry install and went to work.

I then got a spring-mounted 15X15 access cover from Canadian Tire and
cut it down to fit between the shelves. to close it up and finish the
job.
The fittings required to do the job added about $25 to the job.

On Thu, 16 Mar 2017 19:20:29 -0400, wrote:


I just checked my owners manual and apparently the usb socket
is indeed an audio input - it's beside the aux audio input jack -
that I never noticed ..
The manual warns to have the usb device removed
when starting the car - not sure how serious a risk it is
or just ass-covering.
John T.


Thanks for getting back to me. After my mini-high when I thought it
would work, I had a mini-low when a Kia-owner said it didn't.
So we both came out ahead on this one.



Now to load up a flash drive with MP3's and try it out.
I wonder if the radio will read a flash drive and provide some player
functionality ? or do I need a MP3 Player ?
John T.
Works fine on my daughter's Hyundai Elantra - and on the aftermarket
head I installed in my Ranger. You can NOT use "folders" though - all
MP#s have to be in the "root" of the drive!!!!

On Thu, 16 Mar 2017 19:59:25 -0500, ir wrote:

YOU are many more of the regulars on alt.home.repair are the ones
responsible tor the destruction of this NG. And *YOU* are one of the
worst. The reason is that you and these others continue to post replies
to the politics and other OT crap on here. Why even bother to killfile
if you keep these posts going. If everyone here who comes here for the
RIGHT reason, filtered out the abusers, and NEVER replied to ANYTHING
they post, they would have gone away by now. Everytime you post a
followup to their garbage, YOU are FEEDING THEM.

If you go to a party and no one there talks to you, or lets you have any
food or drink, you wont go back to that party. Think about that!

I used this NG going back to the 90's. I have given up on it, because
even though I filtered all the abusers, you regulars keep feeding them
and thus flooding this group with ****. Most of the time I come here
now, the nerw posts are either OT crap, or replies to Homeownershub
crap. Most of the time I just delete all the posts and leave. In the
past month, I only read about 5 posts on here that were ON topic and
Current, (not old **** from the hub).
It's not evne worth my time to open this group anymore...

And think about this: If an outsider comes to this group to ask about an
ON topic issue, and sees the headers, they wont evne post. They will
just see a group filled with rubbish and leave.

I have nothing further to say. The current status of this group disgusts
me! This group is nothing but a pile of rubbish now, and serves no
purpose whatsoever.



Home Guy, painted cow, nym shifting nym stealing poster finally jumped
in.

NNTP-Posting-Host: TKghX/mglWkVW1qxlGBsyg.user.gioia.aioe.org
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Complaints-To:
X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.8.2
X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 8.0/32.1272

YOU CONSTATLY SHIFT NYMS and use a troll NNTP server to hide like the
bitch you are. Post threads about vaginas, dicks and many other
sexual innuendo threads. You are guilty of cross posting. Even said
you allow little Amish boys to drive your tractor.

You ****ing peace of ****, **** you for getting all surely. acting
superior and being dumb enough that people can't figure you out. You
had a chance years ago to take one nym, get off that ****ing aioe
server and join the community. Cocksucker troll. Go **** your goat
again and post a photo.

On Thu, 16 Mar 2017 17:29:30 -0700, Oren wrote:

On Thu, 16 Mar 2017 18:54:14 -0500, Gordon Shumway
wrote:

You poor, poor man. Please get back on your meds.

... careful is the man that try's to scale a barb wire fence.

:-)
Even more carefull when he sees it is mounted on insulators. A
"shocking" experience if not - and barbed wire can do a lot of damage
if you "jump" half way through!!!!

On Thu, 16 Mar 2017 17:54:32 -0700, Oren wrote:

On Thu, 16 Mar 2017 15:57:23 -0500, Muggles
wrote:

On 3/16/2017 3:48 PM, Oren wrote:
On Thu, 16 Mar 2017 16:19:20 -0400, wrote:

Snip

Females are secretive; don't you think?


sshhhhhhhhhhhh don't tell anyone.

If I asked about some project I most often give the final results of
what turned out, if it failed or I can't fix it, make it better or
don't have the tools or skills to do what was suggested. I noticed
that with you and some of the home groaners or goggle posters.

Participation in a group like this is not a one-way street, ya know.
You kept doing this with your fish pond/garden thread.

You damn women just yap yap yap and call yourself "communicating".
Next thing is you'll interrupt me while I'm talking or say "I didn't
say that" when you know damn well you did. Own up! It must be tough
being a woman. Just when I think I got you creatures figured out you
change the gawd damn rules.

Holy ****, Oren, you just might be in for a **** storm of yappin' now!

On Thu, 16 Mar 2017 21:29:23 -0400, wrote:

... careful is the man that try's to scale a barb wire fence.

:-)

Even more carefull when he sees it is mounted on insulators. A
"shocking" experience if not - and barbed wire can do a lot of damage
if you "jump" half way through!!!!

The joke goes like this, basically. Three prisoners are standing on
the prison recreation field talking. One says, looking at the razor
wire on top of the fence. I'm going to escape. He runs, climbs the
fence but at the top gets his crotch caught in the military grade
razor wire. The other two prisoners look at each other. One says to
the other: "See I'm here for being crazy, not stupid".

On Thu, 16 Mar 2017 20:47:27 -0500, Gordon Shumway
wrote:

On Thu, 16 Mar 2017 17:54:32 -0700, Oren wrote:

On Thu, 16 Mar 2017 15:57:23 -0500, Muggles
wrote:

On 3/16/2017 3:48 PM, Oren wrote:
On Thu, 16 Mar 2017 16:19:20 -0400, wrote:

Snip

Females are secretive; don't you think?


sshhhhhhhhhhhh don't tell anyone.

If I asked about some project I most often give the final results of
what turned out, if it failed or I can't fix it, make it better or
don't have the tools or skills to do what was suggested. I noticed
that with you and some of the home groaners or goggle posters.

Participation in a group like this is not a one-way street, ya know.
You kept doing this with your fish pond/garden thread.

You damn women just yap yap yap and call yourself "communicating".
Next thing is you'll interrupt me while I'm talking or say "I didn't
say that" when you know damn well you did. Own up! It must be tough
being a woman. Just when I think I got you creatures figured out you
change the gawd damn rules.

Holy ****, Oren, you just might be in for a **** storm of yappin' now!

I'm not mad. I'm not married to the creature.

On 3/16/2017 6:38 PM, trader_4 wrote:
On Thursday, March 16, 2017 at 2:50:46 PM UTC-4, Muggles wrote:
On 3/16/2017 12:00 PM, trader_4 wrote:
On Thursday, March 16, 2017 at 12:45:33 PM UTC-4, Muggles wrote:

Always blame someone else if you're not happy about something, right?

Just stating the most obvious facts. Do you deny that the overwhelming
number of new threads, the core of the pollution problem, is in fact
a couple of Trump whackos starting one new political, usually Trump
centered, post after another?

I don't see the majority of threads from "whackos" because I've got the
"whackos" blocked!

Then take off the filters for 5 mins and see what someone new or
someone who only comes here rarely, ie those without filters sees.

That's a stupid idea. I'm quite happy with my filters.


THAT is the problem.

There's nothing you or anyone else can do about what other people post
here. At best, all you can do is set up filters.

Someone who is new sees 50 BS posts and
figures it's useless. The fact that you don't see them doesn't mean
they are not there, capiche?

Why are you worried about newcomers if you believe this ng is dying?

Look ... people are going to do what they do regardless of what you
shout from the rooftops isn't fair, or right, or on topic. Why waste
your energy trying to make other people do or not do what you think they
should do, or shouldn't do?

[...]

What do you suggest we do about it? How can I save AHR?

Download thunderbird, set up newsgroups and filters, and then enjoy
reading and responding to the post you want to see.

Simple!


Again, you're the only one here who doesn't see how that doesn't
solve the problem of a newsgroup dying from pollution.

YOU can't solve that problem. If people want to post here about home
repair stuff - they will regardless of junk posts. If they don't want to
do that, they won't.

You can't control anything about this group and complaining about it all
the time doesn't change anything.


As I and others have explained to you, that doesn't fix the problem
of the newsgroup dying.

The newsgroup is NOT dying! It may change, but people are still posting
here, so it obviously isn't dead.


Again, more BS denial. As Art pointed out, the number of on topic,
AHR threads is dwindling, the number of BS mostly pro-Trump threads
is 20 times the number of legitimate ones.

Maybe it's winter and people just don't have as many projects to talk
about? It's not about how many on topic discussions happen here, it's
about people talking about what they choose to discuss - some on topic,
and some off topic. You can't control it.

[...]


--
Maggie

On 3/16/2017 7:54 PM, Oren wrote:
On Thu, 16 Mar 2017 15:57:23 -0500, Muggles
wrote:

On 3/16/2017 3:48 PM, Oren wrote:
On Thu, 16 Mar 2017 16:19:20 -0400, wrote:

So you filter all the home repair stuff and only read the off-topic
stuff?

Now you are in my filter too - thwere hasn't been a sylable, much less
a sentance of home repair messages from you since about November.


Not even a follow-up from advice given. Posting as "Rebel" about
drywall and more recently about the tub faucet that needed two, maybe
three plumbers to fix. If it was fixed. I'd like to know the cost of
those plumbers vs a new faucet or if they fixed it at all.

I remember posting that we had to have a second plumber come out to fix
the faucet. It didn't seem like it was all that important to post more
info on it, but if you REALLY want to know .... lol

The second plumber couldn't fix or replace the faucet because it had a
part in it that they couldn't order, so we had to buy a new faucet
online and when it was delivered the second plumber came out and
installed it. I don't remember exactly how much it cost, but the faucet
was something like $130 +/- and the plumber was a service call, about $110.


Females are secretive; don't you think?

sshhhhhhhhhhhh don't tell anyone.

If I asked about some project I most often give the final results of
what turned out, if it failed or I can't fix it, make it better or
don't have the tools or skills to do what was suggested. I noticed
that with you and some of the home groaners or goggle posters.

Participation in a group like this is not a one-way street, ya know.
You kept doing this with your fish pond/garden thread.

I'm not trying to keep relevant information secret or anything. I just
didn't think it mattered to anyone besides me.

You damn women just yap yap yap and call yourself "communicating".
Next thing is you'll interrupt me while I'm talking or say "I didn't
say that" when you know damn well you did. Own up! It must be tough
being a woman. Just when I think I got you creatures figured out you
change the gawd damn rules.


Whut rules?

--
Maggie

On Thu, 16 Mar 2017 22:25:14 -0500, Muggles
wrote:

You damn women just yap yap yap and call yourself "communicating".
Next thing is you'll interrupt me while I'm talking or say "I didn't
say that" when you know damn well you did. Own up! It must be tough
being a woman. Just when I think I got you creatures figured out you
change the gawd damn rules.


Whut rules?


Yap yap yap. Ask your husband if you yap all the time.

You creatures can't stop yappin' because you think you have to make a
point on a subject and can't listen, understand or comprehend when a
man speaks. Just flapping those gums. Somebody should stuff those
loud mouths with a chocolate donut to stop all the damn yapping. Here
you are yappin' and can't figure it out. Little miss can't be wrong.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cXWbMu4PtpE&index=3&list=PLYl-qMcBWSzh6POtnBVY4TD1gujKSmuYX

Always have to be right, eh? Can't stand being wrong so ya yap yap
yap not knowing men don't listen to all you yappin' creatures.

Are you really that dumb? Never mind. Don't answer.

On Thursday, March 16, 2017 at 7:59:57 PM UTC-5, wrote:
On Thu, 16 Mar 2017 15:51:28 -0500, Muggles
wrote:


No ... I read most of the home repair stuff because I don't know how to
do most of it, and I learn from what others post. Some things I don't
really understand like all the discussions about electricity and wiring
things, but I still try to read some of those, too.

I also read some of the OT threads. Some, I respond to, many I don't
respond to.


YOU are many more of the regulars on alt.home.repair are the ones
responsible tor the destruction of this NG. And *YOU* are one of the
worst. The reason is that you and these others continue to post replies
to the politics and other OT crap on here. Why even bother to killfile
if you keep these posts going. If everyone here who comes here for the
RIGHT reason, filtered out the abusers, and NEVER replied to ANYTHING
they post, they would have gone away by now. Everytime you post a
followup to their garbage, YOU are FEEDING THEM.

If you go to a party and no one there talks to you, or lets you have any
food or drink, you wont go back to that party. Think about that!

I used this NG going back to the 90's. I have given up on it, because
even though I filtered all the abusers, you regulars keep feeding them
and thus flooding this group with ****. Most of the time I come here
now, the nerw posts are either OT crap, or replies to Homeownershub
crap. Most of the time I just delete all the posts and leave. In the
past month, I only read about 5 posts on here that were ON topic and
Current, (not old **** from the hub).
It's not evne worth my time to open this group anymore...

And think about this: If an outsider comes to this group to ask about an
ON topic issue, and sees the headers, they wont evne post. They will
just see a group filled with rubbish and leave.

I have nothing further to say. The current status of this group disgusts
me! This group is nothing but a pile of rubbish now, and serves no
purpose whatsoever.

Who the hell are you and what have you contributed to the discussion on home repair? ヽ(ヅ)ノ

[8~{} Uncle Curious Monster

On Thursday, March 16, 2017 at 8:12:03 PM UTC-5, Meanie wrote:
On 3/16/2017 8:21 PM, trader_4 wrote:
On Thursday, March 16, 2017 at 7:54:54 PM UTC-4, Gordon Shumway wrote:
On Thu, 16 Mar 2017 16:43:17 -0700 (PDT), trader_4 wrote:

On Thursday, March 16, 2017 at 3:13:23 PM UTC-4, Frank wrote:
On 3/16/2017 2:17 PM, Wayne Normandy wrote:
In article , says....

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Most in group are working class people and unlike the haters on the left.

IDK what most people in the group are, but obviously the vast majority
of the increasing number of off topic posts are in fact political ones
from Trump supporting, right wing jerks. And there are just as many
haters on the right as on the left.

You poor, poor man. Please get back on your meds.

Are you in denial too? Are you denying that the overwhelming number of
OT new threads that now out number real home repair ones here by 25X,
polluting the newsgroup, are political ones from pro-Trump, right
wingers? Must you Trumpets deny even the most basic truths? BTW,
I didn't start this thread either. Art did and he has a legitimate point.