"Larry Jaques" wrote in message
...

Say "Hullo" to Phully Laird for me if you get through Nannup. Damn,
it's been 7 years now...I wonder if he'll remember me...if the grog
ain't got him yet. He slid down from Perth a while back.

Well, he looks to be alive, anywho. Egad, tell him he needs a new web
guy. 256 color gifs, EEK! http://www.nannupfurnituregallery.com.au/


You can tell him yourself. : )

I rang him and he said he would drop in to the wreck and say g'day

diggerop

On Nov 10, 8:56 pm, "diggerop" toobusy@themoment wrote:
"Larry Jaques" wrote in message

...



Say "Hullo" to Phully Laird for me if you get through Nannup. Damn,
it's been 7 years now...I wonder if he'll remember me...if the grog
ain't got him yet. He slid down from Perth a while back.

Well, he looks to be alive, anywho. Egad, tell him he needs a new web
guy. 256 color gifs, EEK! http://www.nannupfurnituregallery.com.au/

You can tell him yourself. : )

I rang him and he said he would drop in to the wreck and say g'day

diggerop

Gudday boys
Yup still alive and kicking . ..
Been a long while since I looked in here, aint it all different . ..?
Thanks to a phone call last night from a nice bloke telling me that
Larry had asked after me . . I thought I would say hi.
Also had an email from Mario ( in Buffalo) a while ago ( which I
havent replied to properly yet - sorry mate will get to it)

Very busy - 12 month waiting list ( mainly thanks to that crappy
website wot I built with my own fair hands )
Busy moving into our new Workshop Gallery what I also built with my
own fair hands
Which by the way are now bereft of the end of my favourite left index
finger wot I ran through the 10 inch buzzer a couple of months
ago . . .

Any way just a quick hullo as i am just off to move more stuff out of
the old shop into the new one.

Phully

"Larry Jaques" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 19:56:38 +0800, the infamous "diggerop"
toobusy@themoment scrawled the following:

"Larry Jaques" wrote in message
. ..

Say "Hullo" to Phully Laird for me if you get through Nannup. Damn,
it's been 7 years now...I wonder if he'll remember me...if the grog
ain't got him yet. He slid down from Perth a while back.

Well, he looks to be alive, anywho. Egad, tell him he needs a new web
guy. 256 color gifs, EEK! http://www.nannupfurnituregallery.com.au/


You can tell him yourself. : )

I rang him and he said he would drop in to the wreck and say g'day

Excellent! Thankee, Dop. You're a gentleman, no matter what
everyone always says.

You're welcome

You're a gentleman, no matter what, everyone always says.

Stone the crows! No way are you hanging that label on me : )

diggerop

phil wrote,on my timestamp of 11/11/2009 11:01 PM:


Must go now . . need to find our what a jpg is. . . .!!

Phully



Phully, mate! Blast from the past, and a good one too.
Made my week, dammit! Heck, no: made my MONTH!

Sad to hear the news about the dropped appendage.
Ah well, better than my general decrepitude: two ops and still another one to
go, dickey right heel, an extra 30Kgs, etcetc...

How's Fluffy? This one ****es me orf from time to time:
http://tinyurl.com/yb8owbt
(I know,I know: not the same thing. So what: it's a jpg!)

Good to see you're keeping busy mate. I'll definitely pay a visit to the site
now that I got its URL back: lost most of my old links a few years ago as a
result of all the stupid relocations.

Hang in there! And stay safe from Ali Mussa, Ben Zongo and all the other nigerians.

Nuno (in Sydney)

On Nov 11, 9:34 pm, Noons wrote:
phil wrote,on my timestamp of 11/11/2009 11:01 PM:



Must go now . . need to find our what a jpg is. . . .!!

Phully

Phully, mate! Blast from the past, and a good one too.
Made my week, dammit! Heck, no: made my MONTH!

Sad to hear the news about the dropped appendage.
Ah well, better than my general decrepitude: two ops and still another one to
go, dickey right heel, an extra 30Kgs, etcetc...

How's Fluffy? This one ****es me orf from time to time:http://tinyurl.com/yb8owbt
(I know,I know: not the same thing. So what: it's a jpg!)

Good to see you're keeping busy mate. I'll definitely pay a visit to the site
now that I got its URL back: lost most of my old links a few years ago as a
result of all the stupid relocations.

Hang in there! And stay safe from Ali Mussa, Ben Zongo and all the other nigerians.

Nuno (in Sydney)

Nuno .? . . how wonderful. .
I am getting a chubby on - I feel so good about all these old
w'rec'kers.
Apart from the shortened digit ( I used to able to count to 9 and
three quarters. . .now it is only 9.5 .. played havoc with my creative
writing as well .. ) I am still incredibly good looking, lithe,
athletic and fit - and then I wake up . .!

Mate- never move to the country for the quiet life . .. . .!

Good to hear from you.

Phully

"Larry Jaques" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 08:20:33 -0600, the infamous Dave Balderstone
scrawled the following:

In article
,
phil wrote:

Apart from the shortened digit ( I used to able to count to 9 and
three quarters. . .now it is only 9.5 .. played havoc with my creative
writing as well .. ) I am still incredibly good looking, lithe,
athletic and fit - and then I wake up . .!

Buggerit, mate, haven't you heard of the SawStop down there? Or maybe
it doesn't work upside down?

Yeah, in Oz, it jumps up and take the entire hand off.
Very Highly Not Recommended.


That's it in a nutshell.

I don't suppose American wreckers would realise that one of the reasons US
woodworking gear is so expensive over here is that it all has to be
converted. Otherwise, everything works up side down and backwards. This
involves taking it all apart and re-assembling the right way up. Costs time
and money. Oh, and don't forget about making the sawblade or planer head run
the other way otherwise, when you go to break down a 6x4 on the TS, it turns
back into a log. A planer running the wrong way will add thickness rather
than taking it off.

Chinese stuff is not so bad, we just have to rotate it 90 degrees.

Fair dinkum mate. I wouldn't pull your leg over something as serious as
that.

diggerop

"Larry Jaques" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 17:17:09 -0800 (PST), the infamous phil
scrawled the following:


Reading the exchanges between Phully and yourself, it struck me that the
everyday vernacular I use talking with my Aussie mates is nothing like the
way I express myself in the wreck.
Mainly because I don't think anyone other than Aussies, or those like
yourself who have spent time in this country would understand it if I did
use Aussie expressions.

A typical exchange from when I met up with a former New Zealander workmate/
friend.
"G'day you horrible old *******." ; "Well I'll be buggered, if it isn't
the old Kiwi sheep shagger himself."
Translation: both of us were saying "Hello old friend, it's really good to
see you"

"So, how've you been?" ; "Crook as a dog mate" ; "what a *******"
Translation: So how is your health?; "Not good, I've been quite ill," ;
"That's a shame, I'm sorry to hear it."

"So, what's with the bag of fruit?" ; "The missus wants me to go to this
bunfight with her" ;
"You look as flash as a rat with a gold tooth" ; "Yair, I feel like a pox
doctor's clerk"
Translation: "I see you're wearing a suit". ; " Yes, my wife asked me to
attend a formal dinner with her." ; "It's not often I see you dressed a
smartly as that" ; "Yes you're right, I'm not comfortable in these sorts of
clothes."

Current Americanised generation of Aussie kids wouldn't have a clue what we
were talking about either. "Yo brother, what those two old mother f......'s
talking 'bout?"

Going to ring the World Wildlife Fund tomorrow and have myself listed as an
endangered species. : )

A culturally endangered diggerop.

diggerop said:

"Larry Jaques" wrote in message
.. .
On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 08:20:33 -0600, the infamous Dave Balderstone
scrawled the following:

In article
,
phil wrote:

Apart from the shortened digit ( I used to able to count to 9 and
three quarters. . .now it is only 9.5 .. played havoc with my creative
writing as well .. ) I am still incredibly good looking, lithe,
athletic and fit - and then I wake up . .!

Buggerit, mate, haven't you heard of the SawStop down there? Or maybe
it doesn't work upside down?

Yeah, in Oz, it jumps up and take the entire hand off.
Very Highly Not Recommended.


That's it in a nutshell.

I don't suppose American wreckers would realise that one of the reasons US
woodworking gear is so expensive over here is that it all has to be
converted. Otherwise, everything works up side down and backwards. This
involves taking it all apart and re-assembling the right way up. Costs time
and money. Oh, and don't forget about making the sawblade or planer head run
the other way otherwise, when you go to break down a 6x4 on the TS, it turns
back into a log. A planer running the wrong way will add thickness rather
than taking it off.

Chinese stuff is not so bad, we just have to rotate it 90 degrees.

Fair dinkum mate. I wouldn't pull your leg over something as serious as
that.

You're freakin' nuts. I like that.


Greg G.

diggerop wrote:

A culturally endangered diggerop.

Give us a dinky di rendition of Slim Dusty and The Bushlander's version
of "The Dog Set On The Tucker Box Nine Miles From Gundagi", then Mate!

(Last time I heard that I was 500 miles back of the Bourke, in Arnham
Land).

--
www.e-woodshop.net
Last update: 10/22/08
KarlC@ (the obvious)

"Swingman" wrote in message
...
diggerop wrote:

A culturally endangered diggerop.

Give us a dinky di rendition of Slim Dusty and The Bushlander's version of
"The Dog Set On The Tucker Box Nine Miles From Gundagi", then Mate!

(Last time I heard that I was 500 miles back of the Bourke, in Arnham
Land).

--
www.e-woodshop.net
Last update: 10/22/08
KarlC@ (the obvious)


Could maybe still do that. Spent much of my youth playing in country bands.
We weren't any good, but had a lot of fun. I sang, played rythm guitar and
would you believe, button accordian. Used to earn more than my day job
playing 3 nights a week. Spent most of it on bikes and booze and broads.
....... the rest I just wasted. ; )
They were the best days.
I see kids today who have 10 times more ability and talent than I ever
dreamed of, who can't get a decent gig for free, let alone earn from it. How
the world has changed.

diggerop

On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 03:03:56 +0800, diggerop wrote:

"So, what's with the bag of fruit?" ; "The missus wants me to go to
this bunfight with her" ;
"You look as flash as a rat with a gold tooth" ; "Yair, I feel like a
pox doctor's clerk"
Translation: "I see you're wearing a suit". ; " Yes, my wife asked me to
attend a formal dinner with her." ; "It's not often I see you dressed
a smartly as that" ; "Yes you're right, I'm not comfortable in these
sorts of clothes."

Going to ring the World Wildlife Fund tomorrow and have myself listed as
an endangered species. : )

Not all endangered species are worth saving :-).

--
Intelligence is an experiment that failed - G. B. Shaw

"Larry Blanchard" wrote in message
om...
On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 03:03:56 +0800, diggerop wrote:

"So, what's with the bag of fruit?" ; "The missus wants me to go to
this bunfight with her" ;
"You look as flash as a rat with a gold tooth" ; "Yair, I feel like a
pox doctor's clerk"
Translation: "I see you're wearing a suit". ; " Yes, my wife asked me to
attend a formal dinner with her." ; "It's not often I see you dressed
a smartly as that" ; "Yes you're right, I'm not comfortable in these
sorts of clothes."

Going to ring the World Wildlife Fund tomorrow and have myself listed as
an endangered species. : )

Not all endangered species are worth saving :-).


You'll keep, ...... ya mongrel. : )

diggerop

On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 17:17:09 -0800 (PST), phil
wrote:

Gudday boys


Good to see your voice, Phully.

From Tom - in Philly, Phully.




Regards,

Tom Watson
http://home.comcast.net/~tjwatson1/

Tom Watson wrote:
On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 17:17:09 -0800 (PST), phil
wrote:

Gudday boys


Good to see your voice, Phully.

From Tom - in Philly, Phully.




Regards,

Tom Watson
http://home.comcast.net/~tjwatson1/

I'll add an amen to that.
weirdly yours,
jo4hn

On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 03:03:56 +0800, "diggerop" toobusy@themoment
wrote:


A culturally endangered diggerop.

I suspect most of us older wreckers would understand it. Those that
didn't would likely get a good laugh out of it at least.

Hell, you could start your own "what is it?" group which is posted
here regularly. Only, in your case you say something and we try to
figure out what it is. Sounds like fun to me.

On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 03:03:56 +0800, "diggerop" toobusy@themoment
wrote:

Going to ring the World Wildlife Fund tomorrow and have myself listed as an
endangered species. : )

A culturally endangered diggerop.

Leads me to another question. Do most of you buggers understand the
English speaking tourists that visit?

wrote in message
...
On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 03:03:56 +0800, "diggerop" toobusy@themoment
wrote:

Going to ring the World Wildlife Fund tomorrow and have myself listed as
an
endangered species. : )

A culturally endangered diggerop.

Leads me to another question. Do most of you buggers understand the
English speaking tourists that visit?


No problem at all. It's almost as if we are bilingual, with a language we
understand among ourselves, (almost with the makings of a dialect,) which
can prove confusing for others, along with speaking straightforward English.
(It really is dying out though and I suspect, some of our unique Aussie
character with it.)

Almost like my Scottish and Irish forebears, who spoke who spoke good
English but would lapse into a local dialect among family and friends. I can
still remember an occasion when I was very young and I'd broken some
ornament in my old Scottish grandmother's dining room. I thought
I was in for a tongue lashing or worse, but she merely said 'Och laddie,
dinnae fash yoursel" which loosley meant "that's all right son, no need to
be upset over it."

diggerop

wrote in message
...
On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 03:03:56 +0800, "diggerop" toobusy@themoment
wrote:


A culturally endangered diggerop.

I suspect most of us older wreckers would understand it. Those that
didn't would likely get a good laugh out of it at least.

Hell, you could start your own "what is it?" group which is posted
here regularly. Only, in your case you say something and we try to
figure out what it is. Sounds like fun to me.


I'll do that .... could be entertaining : )

diggerop

diggerop wrote,on my timestamp of 12/11/2009 6:03 AM:


Going to ring the World Wildlife Fund tomorrow and have myself listed as
an endangered species. : )

A culturally endangered diggerop.


LOL!
Hey dig: if you get a chance, go watch "Charlie and Boots" at the movies.
With Paul Hogan. Worth your while mate, I promise! Cracked me up.
Stay all the way: there is an insider's joke in the credits about the Sydney
coathanger.

"Noons" wrote in message
...
diggerop wrote,on my timestamp of 12/11/2009 6:03 AM:


Going to ring the World Wildlife Fund tomorrow and have myself listed as
an endangered species. : )

A culturally endangered diggerop.


LOL!
Hey dig: if you get a chance, go watch "Charlie and Boots" at the movies.
With Paul Hogan. Worth your while mate, I promise! Cracked me up.
Stay all the way: there is an insider's joke in the credits about the
Sydney coathanger.


Thanks Noons, saw it a few weeks ago when the missus dragged me along. (No
self respecting Aussie bloke will admit to actually *wanting* to go to the
movies.) Thoroughly enjoyed it.
Hoges' line about how long it takes to paint the the coathanger was
hilarious.

diggerop

On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 10:11:01 +0800, "diggerop" toobusy@themoment
wrote:

Hell, you could start your own "what is it?" group which is posted
here regularly. Only, in your case you say something and we try to
figure out what it is. Sounds like fun to me.


I'll do that .... could be entertaining : )

Give it a try. Post a half dozen lines of text and then let people try
to interpret them. (No hidden Aussies or New Zealanders allowed to
answer). I suspect your dialect is laced with the occasional
profanity, so we'll allow you to use it. Give it a little time for
people to answer (you can choose the time period) and then you can
judge which answers come closest. We can call it something like
Diggerop's Dictionary.

"diggerop" toobusy@themoment wrote in message
...
wrote in message
...
On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 03:03:56 +0800, "diggerop" toobusy@themoment
wrote:

Going to ring the World Wildlife Fund tomorrow and have myself listed as
an
endangered species. : )

A culturally endangered diggerop.

Leads me to another question. Do most of you buggers understand the
English speaking tourists that visit?


No problem at all. It's almost as if we are bilingual, with a language we
understand among ourselves, (almost with the makings of a dialect,) which
can prove confusing for others, along with speaking straightforward
English. (It really is dying out though and I suspect, some of our unique
Aussie character with it.)

Almost like my Scottish and Irish forebears, who spoke who spoke good
English but would lapse into a local dialect among family and friends. I
can still remember an occasion when I was very young and I'd broken some
ornament in my old Scottish grandmother's dining room. I thought
I was in for a tongue lashing or worse, but she merely said 'Och laddie,
dinnae fash yoursel" which loosley meant "that's all right son, no need to
be upset over it."

I had a visitor from Scotland by last Saturday, I think he must have laid
the
dialect on thick just for my confusion and his amusement, when it came down
to
business, I noticed most of the incomprehensible bits dissappeared and we
communicated just fine. I will say that I enjoyed listening even if I
couldn't
make out a lot of the references.

basilisk

basilisk wrote:
"diggerop" toobusy@themoment wrote in message
...

No problem at all. It's almost as if we are bilingual, with a
language we understand among ourselves, (almost with the makings of
a dialect,) which can prove confusing for others, along with
speaking straightforward English. (It really is dying out though
and I suspect, some of our unique Aussie character with it.)

Almost like my Scottish and Irish forebears, who spoke who spoke
good English but would lapse into a local dialect among family and
friends. I can still remember an occasion when I was very young and
I'd broken some ornament in my old Scottish grandmother's dining
room. I thought I was in for a tongue lashing or worse, but she
merely said 'Och laddie, dinnae fash yoursel" which loosley meant
"that's all right son, no need to be upset over it."

I had a visitor from Scotland by last Saturday, I think he must have
laid the dialect on thick just for my confusion and his amusement,
when it came down to business, I noticed most of the incomprehensible
bits dissappeared and we communicated just fine. I will say that I
enjoyed listening even if I couldn't make out a lot of the
references.

My widowed grandmother brought her four kids to the US from Edinburgh
during the depression. She worked in Chicago as a nurse and worked hard
to lose all trace of her "burr". After a few years she returned to visit
her sister in Ayr for two weeks, during which time she re-acquired her
accent fully and maintained it carefully for the next sixty-some years.

I have to laugh /with/ her. I was born in Georgia, and when I moved to
northern Indiana and started school, the kids made fun of how I "tawk'd"
and, according to my mother, it took less than week for me to lose all
trace of my drawl.

Fast forward to late fifties - I returned to to the Atlanta area to
spend a school Christmas vacation with the folks who'd been next door
neighbors when I'd been an ankle-biter. They'd set up blind dates for
every evening leading up to a big New Year's dance - for which I was
expected to ask one of the young ladies to accompany me (I felt like I'd
fallen into a time warp). First date told me I tawkt lahk a damnyankee
(lip curled). Second date remarked that I had a trace of yankee accent
and asked where I'd picked /that/ up (with an overtone suggesting that
perhaps penicillin might help). By the third evening I'd worked the bugs
out and everything went smoothly thereafter (I did invite a gorgeous
young belle to the dance and had a great time). Just before I returned
to school, my "improvement" was recognized with a certificate making me
an honorary colonel in the Confederate underground.

But for the life of me, I can't speak with a Scottish burr. :-]

--
Morris Dovey
DeSoto Solar
DeSoto, Iowa USA
http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/

"Morris Dovey" wrote in message
...
basilisk wrote:
"diggerop" toobusy@themoment wrote in message
...

No problem at all. It's almost as if we are bilingual, with a
language we understand among ourselves, (almost with the makings of
a dialect,) which can prove confusing for others, along with
speaking straightforward English. (It really is dying out though
and I suspect, some of our unique Aussie character with it.)

Almost like my Scottish and Irish forebears, who spoke who spoke
good English but would lapse into a local dialect among family and
friends. I can still remember an occasion when I was very young and
I'd broken some ornament in my old Scottish grandmother's dining
room. I thought I was in for a tongue lashing or worse, but she
merely said 'Och laddie, dinnae fash yoursel" which loosley meant
"that's all right son, no need to be upset over it."

I had a visitor from Scotland by last Saturday, I think he must have
laid the dialect on thick just for my confusion and his amusement,
when it came down to business, I noticed most of the incomprehensible
bits dissappeared and we communicated just fine. I will say that I
enjoyed listening even if I couldn't make out a lot of the
references.

My widowed grandmother brought her four kids to the US from Edinburgh
during the depression. She worked in Chicago as a nurse and worked hard to
lose all trace of her "burr". After a few years she returned to visit her
sister in Ayr for two weeks, during which time she re-acquired her accent
fully and maintained it carefully for the next sixty-some years.

I have to laugh /with/ her. I was born in Georgia, and when I moved to
northern Indiana and started school, the kids made fun of how I "tawk'd"
and, according to my mother, it took less than week for me to lose all
trace of my drawl.

Fast forward to late fifties - I returned to to the Atlanta area to spend
a school Christmas vacation with the folks who'd been next door neighbors
when I'd been an ankle-biter. They'd set up blind dates for every evening
leading up to a big New Year's dance - for which I was expected to ask one
of the young ladies to accompany me (I felt like I'd fallen into a time
warp). First date told me I tawkt lahk a damnyankee (lip curled). Second
date remarked that I had a trace of yankee accent and asked where I'd
picked /that/ up (with an overtone suggesting that perhaps penicillin
might help). By the third evening I'd worked the bugs out and everything
went smoothly thereafter (I did invite a gorgeous young belle to the dance
and had a great time). Just before I returned to school, my "improvement"
was recognized with a certificate making me an honorary colonel in the
Confederate underground.

But for the life of me, I can't speak with a Scottish burr. :-]

So, ye wuid nae say a braw bricht moonlicht nicht, the nicht then?

Kids are amazingly adaptable. We had my father with his trace of Irish
accent, and daily use of the Irish way of expression, my Grandmother with
her soft Scottish burr, and my mother with her everyday Ausie accent. We had
no idea at all that each of them spoke in a different manner. We could
understand them, therefore there was no difference to us as kids.

One thing that did click with me in later years was the realisation that I
unconciously adopted each of their accents when speaking to them. So that a
scottish burr comes naturally to me. Or irish expression.

It happened that the burr stood me in very good stead in learning Bahasa
Indonesia. They roll their r's just as the Scots do, something that doesn't
come easily to Aussies.

diggerop

"Larry Jaques" wrote in message
...


No problem at all. It's almost as if we are bilingual, with a language we
understand among ourselves, (almost with the makings of a dialect,) which
can prove confusing for others, along with speaking straightforward
English.
(It really is dying out though and I suspect, some of our unique Aussie
character with it.)

So you were taught English and slouched into Aussie, right? Got it.

Mate. I have to tell yer, The lapse was in using the Pommy version of
English instead of Strine.

diggerop

diggerop wrote:

So, ye wuid nae say a braw bricht moonlicht nicht, the nicht then?

Aye, I canna. Interestingly, I can /hear/ the words as I read them - but
my tongue and palate conspire to prevent proper rendition.

Kids are amazingly adaptable. We had my father with his trace of Irish
accent, and daily use of the Irish way of expression, my Grandmother
with her soft Scottish burr, and my mother with her everyday Ausie
accent. We had no idea at all that each of them spoke in a different
manner. We could understand them, therefore there was no difference to
us as kids.

One thing that did click with me in later years was the realisation that
I unconciously adopted each of their accents when speaking to them. So
that a scottish burr comes naturally to me. Or irish expression.

I wonderful bit of learning, that! I hear them as musical, to be heard
and enjoyed, but beyond my ability to reproduce. Probably because of my
grandmother, I warm to the Scottish burr - and I understand why the
Irish write poetry and seem to enjoy hearing themselves speak. :-))

It happened that the burr stood me in very good stead in learning Bahasa
Indonesia. They roll their r's just as the Scots do, something that
doesn't come easily to Aussies.

Nor, I think to most Americans. A clerk in a Paris bookstore tried for
some 15 minutes to coach a rolled 'R' from me so that I could say
"Louvrrrre" properly, then (apparently in total frustration) switched to
English and asked that I do the same.

I do a pretty good pirate "Arr!", though.

--
Morris Dovey
DeSoto Solar
DeSoto, Iowa USA
http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/

On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 11:28:49 -0600, the infamous Dave Balderstone
scrawled the following:

In article , Larry Jaques
wrote:

Huh? That's news to me, Martin. It's always been GIF and JPG.

The first formats were GIF, Xbm and Xpm.

http://diveintomark.org/archives/200...e-an-img-eleme
nt

Interesting. Xbm and Xpm? Nevahoiduvit. I didn't see Martin's TIF
in there, and that was just before I started up.

--
You know, in about 40 years, we'll have literally thousands of
OLD LADIES running around with TATTOOS, and Rap Music will be
the Golden Oldies. Now that's SCARY! --Maxine

On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 09:48:47 -0600, the infamous "basilisk"
scrawled the following:


"diggerop" toobusy@themoment wrote in message
...
wrote in message
...
On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 03:03:56 +0800, "diggerop" toobusy@themoment
wrote:

Going to ring the World Wildlife Fund tomorrow and have myself listed as
an
endangered species. : )

A culturally endangered diggerop.

Leads me to another question. Do most of you buggers understand the
English speaking tourists that visit?


No problem at all. It's almost as if we are bilingual, with a language we
understand among ourselves, (almost with the makings of a dialect,) which
can prove confusing for others, along with speaking straightforward
English. (It really is dying out though and I suspect, some of our unique
Aussie character with it.)

Almost like my Scottish and Irish forebears, who spoke who spoke good
English but would lapse into a local dialect among family and friends. I
can still remember an occasion when I was very young and I'd broken some
ornament in my old Scottish grandmother's dining room. I thought
I was in for a tongue lashing or worse, but she merely said 'Och laddie,
dinnae fash yoursel" which loosley meant "that's all right son, no need to
be upset over it."

I had a visitor from Scotland by last Saturday, I think he must have laid
the
dialect on thick just for my confusion and his amusement, when it came down
to
business, I noticed most of the incomprehensible bits dissappeared and we
communicated just fine. I will say that I enjoyed listening even if I
couldn't
make out a lot of the references.

Yeah, a well-spoken Scottish brogue is great to listen to, if for
nothing more than listening to someone who cares about what they're
saying and how they say it.

--
You know, in about 40 years, we'll have literally thousands of
OLD LADIES running around with TATTOOS, and Rap Music will be
the Golden Oldies. Now that's SCARY! --Maxine

On Fri, 13 Nov 2009 01:37:01 +0800, the infamous "diggerop"
toobusy@themoment scrawled the following:

"Larry Jaques" wrote in message
.. .


No problem at all. It's almost as if we are bilingual, with a language we
understand among ourselves, (almost with the makings of a dialect,) which
can prove confusing for others, along with speaking straightforward
English.
(It really is dying out though and I suspect, some of our unique Aussie
character with it.)

So you were taught English and slouched into Aussie, right? Got it.

Mate. I have to tell yer, The lapse was in using the Pommy version of
English instead of Strine.

But of course, _you'd_ think of it that way.

--
You know, in about 40 years, we'll have literally thousands of
OLD LADIES running around with TATTOOS, and Rap Music will be
the Golden Oldies. Now that's SCARY! --Maxine

On Nov 11, 7:02*am, phil wrote:
On Nov 11, 9:34 pm, Noons wrote:





SNIP
- Show quoted text -

My goodness, look at the gremlins pop out of the woodwork! Glad to
"see" you, Phully & Larry.

I hear from Jummy once in a while. Guess he's still into the
construction, but also very active in a band


www.brazosriverband.com

Anyhoo, Hi to all. Legs/knees getting worse, so pretty much doing
sitdown ww'ing, but I'm trying to work up some turned Christmas
ornaments for presents @ our church Christmas party(chinese auction).

Norm

Larry -

I was doing web designs on Sun 3 and Sun 4 boxes a long long time ago.
Internally before the WorldWideWeb was shortened to WWW and other names.

Mosaic was the first 'Netscape' long before the other browsers and companies.

Tiff was one of the primary formats a number of others - now mostly obscure.

The web for me started in 1987 when I downloaded (via our FTP server)
from CERN the install files for Mosaic. Two of us were tasked to get a
division up and going. I did practical pages and collected graphics.

I still have and use TIFF / TIF format - my camera generates TIF and JPG
at the same time. And Jpg only.

Martin

Larry Jaques wrote:
On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 19:47:25 -0600, the infamous "Martin H. Eastburn"
scrawled the following:

And what the ?x? - where is Tiff/Tif quality format.

The web started with Tiff and gif and a few more on unix.
Tiff holds all of the data - more than the crappy views on some sites.

Problem with new formats - who has an editor - a graphics program for them -
oh Microsoft only...

Huh? That's news to me, Martin. It's always been GIF and JPG. TIF
wasn't an available format on the Net until, hmmm, when? I didn't get
the browser addon until 2006.
Alternatiff didn't release until 2003.

TIFF was used exclusively by the graphics gurus because it was a very
high-resolution, large-format design. That's absolutely contrary to
the Net.

'Course, I'm a newbie, not having started designing websites until
1995 or so. Back then, GIF was pretty much the only game in town.

Got cites for widespread use of TIF on the Net in the last century?
(I'm from Missouri, maam. Show me!)

On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 17:04:50 -0800 (PST), the infamous Nahmie
scrawled the following:

On Nov 11, 7:02*am, phil wrote:
On Nov 11, 9:34 pm, Noons wrote:





SNIP
- Show quoted text -

My goodness, look at the gremlins pop out of the woodwork! Glad to
"see" you, Phully & Larry.

Hey, same here, Nahmie. I should say "Hi!" to Noons, too, since I
haven't talked to him since coming back.


I hear from Jummy once in a while. Guess he's still into the
construction, but also very active in a band

www.brazosriverband.com

Well, when he ain't hackin' away at pineywood, he's hackin' away at
C&W music, huh? Ain't that sweet? [Hey, Jums! Throw a nice, long,
sensual hug and a liplock on Amie for me, will ya? Yowza! Schweet!)
(Oops, hope she's not your woman.)] Hmm, there sure are a lot of good
looking women singing Country, aren't there? Jums looks to be doing
well.


Anyhoo, Hi to all. Legs/knees getting worse, so pretty much doing
sitdown ww'ing, but I'm trying to work up some turned Christmas
ornaments for presents @ our church Christmas party(chinese auction).

My wrists are starting to get to me, so I may not be doing the larger
handyman jobs in the future.

Have you lowered your shop to suit seated wooddorking yet, Nahmie? the
nice thing about benches and such is that you can hack 'em off at the
knees if you want, or drop 'em and open 'em up so you can roll into
them with an electric chair. Oops, I meant "electric wheelchair",
didn't I? I've been assembling and delivering Jazzy carts and chairs
to the locals for the last year, too, and installing those "Help! I've
fallen and can't get up!" Life Alert units, too.

With my shop so crowded with junk, I've done most of my wooddorking
outside, on horses and the grass. Not "fine" by any means, but it's
mostly construction work, so it's no biggie.

Take care!

--
You know, in about 40 years, we'll have literally thousands of
OLD LADIES running around with TATTOOS, and Rap Music will be
the Golden Oldies. Now that's SCARY! --Maxine

On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 20:48:40 -0600, the infamous "Martin H. Eastburn"
scrawled the following:

Larry -

I was doing web designs on Sun 3 and Sun 4 boxes a long long time ago.
Internally before the WorldWideWeb was shortened to WWW and other names.

Cool!


Mosaic was the first 'Netscape' long before the other browsers and companies.

Yes, I used it as my first browser!


Tiff was one of the primary formats a number of others - now mostly obscure.

Was it used mostly in the medical and/or scientific fields, for x-ray
transfers, astronomy, and such? It never made it to the wider public
that I know of.


The web for me started in 1987 when I downloaded (via our FTP server)
from CERN the install files for Mosaic. Two of us were tasked to get a
division up and going. I did practical pages and collected graphics.

Ayup, you have 7-8 years on me there. I sure like what the Web has
turned into since then, don't you? Back then, it was a large step up
from the BBSes I hung out on, but look what it can do and provide
today. Amazing. I love it!


I still have and use TIFF / TIF format - my camera generates TIF and JPG
at the same time. And Jpg only.

My Nikon D-40 does RAW and JPG.


--
You know, in about 40 years, we'll have literally thousands of
OLD LADIES running around with TATTOOS, and Rap Music will be
the Golden Oldies. Now that's SCARY! --Maxine

On Nov 13, 8:46*am, Larry Jaques
wrote:
On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 17:04:50 -0800 (PST), the infamous Nahmie
scrawled the following:

On Nov 11, 7:02*am, phil wrote:
On Nov 11, 9:34 pm, Noons wrote:

SNIP
- Show quoted text -

My goodness, look at the gremlins pop out of the woodwork! Glad to
"see" you, Phully & Larry.

Hey, same here, Nahmie. *I should say "Hi!" to Noons, too, since I
haven't talked to him since coming back.

I hear from Jummy once in a while. Guess he's still into the
construction, but also very active in a band

www.brazosriverband.com

Well, when he ain't hackin' away at pineywood, he's hackin' away at
C&W music, huh? *Ain't that sweet? *[Hey, Jums! Throw a nice, long,
sensual hug and a liplock on Amie for me, will ya? Yowza! Schweet!)
(Oops, hope she's not your woman.)] Hmm, there sure are a lot of good
looking women singing Country, aren't there? *Jums looks to be doing
well.

Anyhoo, Hi to all. Legs/knees getting worse, so pretty much doing
sitdown ww'ing, but I'm trying to work up some turned Christmas
ornaments for presents @ our church Christmas party(chinese auction).

My wrists are starting to get to me, so I may not be doing the larger
handyman jobs in the future.

Have you lowered your shop to suit seated wooddorking yet, Nahmie? the
nice thing about benches and such is that you can hack 'em off at the
knees if you want, or drop 'em and open 'em up so you can roll into
them with an electric chair. *Oops, I meant "electric wheelchair",
didn't I? *I've been assembling and delivering Jazzy carts and chairs
to the locals for the last year, too, and installing those "Help! I've
fallen and can't get up!" Life Alert units, too.

With my shop so crowded with junk, I've done most of my wooddorking
outside, on horses and the grass. Not "fine" by any means, but it's
mostly construction work, so it's no biggie.

Take care!

--
You know, in about 40 years, we'll have literally thousands of
OLD LADIES running around with TATTOOS, and Rap Music will be
the Golden Oldies. *Now that's SCARY! * * * * * * * --Maxine

Actually, my "shop" got moved to BIL's garage in Longview, TX about 4
yrs ago. SWMBO retired, we sold house & live in a 36' 5th wheel RV,
spend Summer back near kids in Jamestown, NY and Winter here in TX.
Can't really cut equipment down too much because BIL wants to get into
more ww'ing, and he will inherit when I'm gone. Had Lap Band surgery
in Jan. '08, dumped about 60lb. and when I can get rid of another 70,
gonna try for new knees, providing our illustrious leaders new health
care plan will allow it. In the meantime, I do some scroll saw stuff,
and keep a chair nearby so I can take breaks from standing, although
sometimes it's worse to have to get up again than to keep standing!

Again, "Hi" to all.
Norm

Okay now - I hears me name has been dragged through the archives. Lo
and behold - THE GANG'S ALL HERE! LOL!

Good day to me Top Bloke at the bottom of the world - been a long time
Phully. Nahmie was kind enuff to send out the mention.

Actually living in Las Vegas. Got a full time job doing the 9 to 5
thing . . . a full time country band performing up and down the Strip
(opening for the likes of Big and Rich, Reba McEntire, Dwight Yoakum)
and believe it or not, got just enough tools left (or purchased) to
build all my own redwood furniture (including octagon poker table) for
my back yard. Unfortunately, you can't keep enough "juice" in wood
outdoors in the desert - but I'm having fun with it. I really do miss
everyone and all the trouble we used to get into on the wreck. If
anyone has any plans to come to Vegas, email me and let me know.
I'll hook you up with the best places to stay and comp tickets for
our show as well!

Take care and holler back!

Jim (aka Jummy, Minwax Mac, etc.)
www.brazosriverband.com






On Nov 10, 3:56*am, "diggerop" toobusy@themoment wrote:
"Larry Jaques" wrote in message

...



Say "Hullo" to Phully Laird for me if you get through Nannup. *Damn,
it's been 7 years now...I wonder if he'll remember me...if the grog
ain't got him yet. *He slid down from Perth a while back.

Well, he looks to be alive, anywho. *Egad, tell him he needs a new web
guy. 256 color gifs, EEK! *http://www.nannupfurnituregallery.com.au/

You can tell him yourself. *: )

I rang him and he said he would drop in to the wreck and say g'day

diggerop

On Nov 11, 5:02*am, phil wrote:
On Nov 11, 9:34 pm, Noons wrote:





phil wrote,on my timestamp of 11/11/2009 11:01 PM:

Must go now . . need to find our what a jpg is. . . .!!

Phully

Phully, mate! Blast from the past, and a good one too.
Made my week, dammit! Heck, no: made my MONTH!

Sad to hear the news about the dropped appendage.
Ah well, better than my general decrepitude: two ops and still another one to
go, dickey right heel, an extra 30Kgs, etcetc...

How's Fluffy? *This one ****es me orf from time to time:http://tinyurl.com/yb8owbt
(I know,I know: not the same thing. So what: it's a jpg!)

Good to see you're keeping busy mate. *I'll definitely pay a visit to the site
now that I got its URL back: lost most of my old links a few years ago as a
result of all the stupid relocations.

Hang in there! And stay safe from Ali Mussa, Ben Zongo and all the other nigerians.

Nuno (in Sydney)

Nuno .? . . how wonderful. .
I am getting a chubby on *- I feel so good about all these old
w'rec'kers.
Apart from the shortened digit ( I used to able to count to 9 and
three quarters. . .now it is only 9.5 .. played havoc with my creative
writing as well .. ) I am still incredibly good looking, lithe,
athletic and fit - and then I wake up . .!

Mate- never move to the country for the quiet life *. .. . .!

Good to hear from you.

Phully- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Yer still my top bloke dont-ya know old man! LOL!

Jummy

On Fri, 13 Nov 2009 09:02:03 -0800 (PST), the infamous Nahmie
scrawled the following:

Actually, my "shop" got moved to BIL's garage in Longview, TX about 4
yrs ago. SWMBO retired, we sold house & live in a 36' 5th wheel RV,
spend Summer back near kids in Jamestown, NY and Winter here in TX.
Can't really cut equipment down too much because BIL wants to get into
more ww'ing, and he will inherit when I'm gone. Had Lap Band surgery
in Jan. '08, dumped about 60lb. and when I can get rid of another 70,
gonna try for new knees, providing our illustrious leaders new health
care plan will allow it.

Good luck with that one. Hmm, I seem to recall, heap many moons ago,
you had a little accident with your 18-wheeler. Did that contribute
to the fun with your knees?


In the meantime, I do some scroll saw stuff,
and keep a chair nearby so I can take breaks from standing, although
sometimes it's worse to have to get up again than to keep standing!

I hear ya. I turned 56 this year. It's hell getting old. bseg

--
You know, in about 40 years, we'll have literally thousands of
OLD LADIES running around with TATTOOS, and Rap Music will be
the Golden Oldies. Now that's SCARY! --Maxine

On Fri, 13 Nov 2009 12:39:59 -0800 (PST), the infamous Jimmy Mac
scrawled the following:

On Nov 11, 5:02*am, phil wrote:
On Nov 11, 9:34 pm, Noons wrote:





phil wrote,on my timestamp of 11/11/2009 11:01 PM:

Must go now . . need to find our what a jpg is. . . .!!

Phully

Phully, mate! Blast from the past, and a good one too.
Made my week, dammit! Heck, no: made my MONTH!

Sad to hear the news about the dropped appendage.
Ah well, better than my general decrepitude: two ops and still another one to
go, dickey right heel, an extra 30Kgs, etcetc...

How's Fluffy? *This one ****es me orf from time to time:http://tinyurl.com/yb8owbt
(I know,I know: not the same thing. So what: it's a jpg!)

Good to see you're keeping busy mate. *I'll definitely pay a visit to the site
now that I got its URL back: lost most of my old links a few years ago as a
result of all the stupid relocations.

Hang in there! And stay safe from Ali Mussa, Ben Zongo and all the other nigerians.

Nuno (in Sydney)

Nuno .? . . how wonderful. .
I am getting a chubby on *- I feel so good about all these old
w'rec'kers.
Apart from the shortened digit ( I used to able to count to 9 and
three quarters. . .now it is only 9.5 .. played havoc with my creative
writing as well .. ) I am still incredibly good looking, lithe,
athletic and fit - and then I wake up . .!

Mate- never move to the country for the quiet life *. .. . .!

Good to hear from you.

Phully- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Yer still my top bloke dont-ya know old man! LOL!

Jummykins! Good ta see ya again after all these years. Catch us up!


--
You know, in about 40 years, we'll have literally thousands of
OLD LADIES running around with TATTOOS, and Rap Music will be
the Golden Oldies. Now that's SCARY! --Maxine

On Fri, 13 Nov 2009 09:24:05 -0800 (PST), the infamous Jimmy Mac
scrawled the following:

Okay now - I hears me name has been dragged through the archives. Lo
and behold - THE GANG'S ALL HERE! LOL!

Good day to me Top Bloke at the bottom of the world - been a long time
Phully. Nahmie was kind enuff to send out the mention.

Actually living in Las Vegas. Got a full time job doing the 9 to 5
thing . . . a full time country band performing up and down the Strip
(opening for the likes of Big and Rich, Reba McEntire, Dwight Yoakum)
and believe it or not, got just enough tools left (or purchased) to
build all my own redwood furniture (including octagon poker table) for

That's sure a step up from the sappy pineywood you used to work with,
Jums.


my back yard. Unfortunately, you can't keep enough "juice" in wood
outdoors in the desert - but I'm having fun with it.

It does get hot up yonder in Nee Vadder, doesn't it?


I really do miss
everyone and all the trouble we used to get into on the wreck. If
anyone has any plans to come to Vegas, email me and let me know.
I'll hook you up with the best places to stay and comp tickets for
our show as well!

The only reason I'd be in Vegas would be to "talk to" that guy at
everycontractor.com who ripped me off for $3,000. The supposed
$45,000 worth of leads they were to have supplied, guaranted, amounted
to two jobs out of my area, both of which I didn't hadn't signed up
for. I'd best stay out of that area.


Take care and holler back!

Ho! Hey, ya resawed any beans recently, suckah? (For you new guys,
DAGS on "resawed beans", and be sure to look for the picture!)

--
You know, in about 40 years, we'll have literally thousands of
OLD LADIES running around with TATTOOS, and Rap Music will be
the Golden Oldies. Now that's SCARY! --Maxine

Widely ? - likely not. Not many were doing web design when I was starting.
One had to be on the inside of very high tech science to have access to
the early version of browser. We were writing how to files as there were
not any paperbacks or documents to be found.

Our internal network was in swing while the outside was in Bulletin boards.

Martin

Dave Balderstone wrote:
In article , Martin
H. Eastburn wrote:

I was doing web designs on Sun 3 and Sun 4 boxes a long long time ago.
Internally before the WorldWideWeb was shortened to WWW and other names.

Mosaic was the first 'Netscape' long before the other browsers and companies.

Tiff was one of the primary formats a number of others - now mostly obscure.

The web for me started in 1987 when I downloaded (via our FTP server)
from CERN the install files for Mosaic. Two of us were tasked to get a
division up and going. I did practical pages and collected graphics.

I still have and use TIFF / TIF format - my camera generates TIF and JPG
at the same time. And Jpg only.


TIFF was invented in the '80s by Aldus as a format for "desktop
publishing", aimed at scanner vendors as a standard format. The first
version of the TIFF spec was published in a1986, and was binary only.
In 1988 rev 5 added support of palette colors and LZW compression

As the market for that was primarily the Macintosh in those days, I
find it unlikely that TIFF was being used in any serious way in the
early days of the web, and it certainly was not used for what we were
doing on the web in 1994 and forward. I'd welcome any citations you can
provide that demonstrate TIFF being widely used as a display format in
web browsers, well, ever.

See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tagged_Image_File_Format for details
on the TIFF specification.