Doing some vehicle work yesterday. SAE socket set
won't work, becuae 10 MM is between 3/8 and 7/16.
And 13 MM is between 1/2 and 9/16.

Suppose I buy metric socket set. Will I have the
same problem workign on English size fasteners?

Do I need to wrench sets in each vehicle?

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On Thu, 22 Oct 2015 13:59:28 -0400, Stormin Mormon
wrote:

Doing some vehicle work yesterday. SAE socket set
won't work, becuae 10 MM is between 3/8 and 7/16.
And 13 MM is between 1/2 and 9/16.

Suppose I buy metric socket set. Will I have the
same problem workign on English size fasteners?

Do I need to wrench sets in each vehicle?

-
.
Christopher A. Young
learn more about Jesus
. www.lds.org
.
.

These days you need both to work on just about anything.

On Thursday, October 22, 2015 at 1:59:09 PM UTC-4, Stormin Mormon wrote:
Doing some vehicle work yesterday. SAE socket set
won't work, becuae 10 MM is between 3/8 and 7/16.
And 13 MM is between 1/2 and 9/16.

Suppose I buy metric socket set. Will I have the
same problem workign on English size fasteners?

Do I need to wrench sets in each vehicle?

-


Yes, you need both. Some are close enough that they work
perfectly. For example, 32mm is extremely close to 1.25", so
a 1.25" wrench that I already have works fine. Some are just
about there. So, then it depends on how tight the bolt is
and how lucky you feel today. Round it off, and you're screwed....

On 10/22/2015 01:59 PM, Stormin Mormon wrote:

Doing some vehicle work yesterday. SAE socket set
won't work, becuae 10 MM is between 3/8 and 7/16.
And 13 MM is between 1/2 and 9/16.

Suppose I buy metric socket set. Will I have the
same problem workign on English size fasteners?

Do I need to wrench sets in each vehicle?

Yes: until the USA catches up with the rest of the world, you'll need both.

Perce

On Thu, 22 Oct 2015 13:59:28 -0400, Stormin Mormon
wrote:

Doing some vehicle work yesterday. SAE socket set
won't work, becuae 10 MM is between 3/8 and 7/16.
And 13 MM is between 1/2 and 9/16.

Suppose I buy metric socket set. Will I have the
same problem workign on English size fasteners?

Do I need to wrench sets in each vehicle?

You buy a "combo set". SAE and Metric. I have sockets and wrenches
in combo sets. It ticks me off American made cars require both.

On Thursday, October 22, 2015 at 1:59:09 PM UTC-4, Stormin Mormon wrote:
Doing some vehicle work yesterday. SAE socket set
won't work, becuae 10 MM is between 3/8 and 7/16.
And 13 MM is between 1/2 and 9/16.

Suppose I buy metric socket set. Will I have the
same problem workign on English size fasteners?

Do I need to wrench sets in each vehicle?


I'm actually surprised that *you* are this late to the game.

In any case, get 6 points, not 12. They grip so much better...much less
chance (none?) of rounding off the head of the bolt. They do lack a bit in
"convenience" when positioning over the bolt head, but they feel (and act)
so much more secure.

1/2" drive for brakes and suspension, 3/8" drive for just about everything
else.

On 10/22/2015 10:59 AM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
Doing some vehicle work yesterday. SAE socket set
won't work, becuae 10 MM is between 3/8 and 7/16.
And 13 MM is between 1/2 and 9/16.

Suppose I buy metric socket set. Will I have the
same problem workign on English size fasteners?

Do I need to wrench sets in each vehicle?

Unless it's a foreign-made vehicle, you'll need both
(US cars are frequently a mixture of both types).

I keep a "dual" socket set in each vehicle and
"select" wrenches (e.g., I almost always use a wrench
to deal with the drain plug for the oil pan so keep
that wrench) in each vehicle.

Thankfully, we have 1/4", 3/8", 1/2" "drive" and not
6mm, 9mm, 12mm "drive" sockets! :

On Thu, 22 Oct 2015 11:13:16 -0700, Oren wrote:

On Thu, 22 Oct 2015 13:59:28 -0400, Stormin Mormon
wrote:

Doing some vehicle work yesterday. SAE socket set
won't work, becuae 10 MM is between 3/8 and 7/16.
And 13 MM is between 1/2 and 9/16.

Suppose I buy metric socket set. Will I have the
same problem workign on English size fasteners?

Do I need to wrench sets in each vehicle?

You buy a "combo set". SAE and Metric. I have sockets and wrenches
in combo sets. It ticks me off American made cars require both.

Outboards too if they are not "pure". Yamaha is metric but Merc,
OMC/Bombardier and others "assembled in the US" are not.
Offshore parts will be metric and US parts will usually be SAE.

One good thing about having both is when you are driving a socket on
to remove a bolt that is corroded so bad the "right socket" won't
work, you have more choices.

In any case, get 6 points, not 12. They grip so much better...much less
chance (none?) of rounding off the head of the bolt.

+1 +1 +1

Mark

On Thu, 22 Oct 2015 13:59:28 -0400, Stormin Mormon
wrote:

Doing some vehicle work yesterday. SAE socket set
won't work, becuae 10 MM is between 3/8 and 7/16.
And 13 MM is between 1/2 and 9/16.

Suppose I buy metric socket set. Will I have the
same problem workign on English size fasteners?

Do I need to wrench sets in each vehicle?

-
.
Christopher A. Young
learn more about Jesus
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.
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You need 2 sets, and for the metric set it depends what vehicle you
are working on and where the set originates. Some vehicles only use
8,10,12,15,17,19,21 and 24
Others use 8,11,13,16,18, and 22
Others use other combinations.
A "full" metric set includes everyrhing from 8mm to 28mm.

Then there are the oddball aplications (have not run across them in
automotive) that use decimal sized metrics - like 5.5

You don't need 2 of each ratchet or extension as all metric sockes (at
least in the north american market) use 1/4, 3/8, or 1/2 inch drives
for light to medium duty use, and 3/4 or 1 inch for HD use

On Thu, 22 Oct 2015 15:13:37 -0400, wrote:

On Thu, 22 Oct 2015 11:13:16 -0700, Oren wrote:

On Thu, 22 Oct 2015 13:59:28 -0400, Stormin Mormon
wrote:

Doing some vehicle work yesterday. SAE socket set
won't work, becuae 10 MM is between 3/8 and 7/16.
And 13 MM is between 1/2 and 9/16.

Suppose I buy metric socket set. Will I have the
same problem workign on English size fasteners?

Do I need to wrench sets in each vehicle?

You buy a "combo set". SAE and Metric. I have sockets and wrenches
in combo sets. It ticks me off American made cars require both.

Outboards too if they are not "pure". Yamaha is metric but Merc,
OMC/Bombardier and others "assembled in the US" are not.
Offshore parts will be metric and US parts will usually be SAE.

One good thing about having both is when you are driving a socket on
to remove a bolt that is corroded so bad the "right socket" won't
work, you have more choices.

I just hate going back to the tool box or having to climb out from
under a vehicle to get another sized tool. Give me one choice. SAE or
Metric, but not both of 'em on the same project

On Thu, 22 Oct 2015 11:13:16 -0700, Oren wrote:

On Thu, 22 Oct 2015 13:59:28 -0400, Stormin Mormon
wrote:

Doing some vehicle work yesterday. SAE socket set
won't work, becuae 10 MM is between 3/8 and 7/16.
And 13 MM is between 1/2 and 9/16.

Suppose I buy metric socket set. Will I have the
same problem workign on English size fasteners?

Do I need to wrench sets in each vehicle?

You buy a "combo set". SAE and Metric. I have sockets and wrenches
in combo sets. It ticks me off American made cars require both.
Most current "american" cars are fully metric, but they use the
oddball 13mm and 11mm etc that are almost identical to SAE sises (1/2
and 11/16) as well as the unique metrics like 10 and 12

On Thu, 22 Oct 2015 11:52:30 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
wrote:

On Thursday, October 22, 2015 at 1:59:09 PM UTC-4, Stormin Mormon wrote:
Doing some vehicle work yesterday. SAE socket set
won't work, becuae 10 MM is between 3/8 and 7/16.
And 13 MM is between 1/2 and 9/16.

Suppose I buy metric socket set. Will I have the
same problem workign on English size fasteners?

Do I need to wrench sets in each vehicle?


I'm actually surprised that *you* are this late to the game.

In any case, get 6 points, not 12. They grip so much better...much less
chance (none?) of rounding off the head of the bolt. They do lack a bit in
"convenience" when positioning over the bolt head, but they feel (and act)
so much more secure.

1/2" drive for brakes and suspension, 3/8" drive for just about everything
else.
Too bad you are in Yankland instead of here in Canada - Canadian
Tire has their Mastercraft combination set - all metric and inch -
1/4, 3/8 and 1/2 inch drive - on sale for $159 - normally about $600.
Might be worth a road trip up to Buffalo/Niagara or up to
Kingston/thousand Islands to snag yourself a set this week. The
Mastercraft tools are VERY good value.

On Thu, 22 Oct 2015 14:12:53 -0400, "Percival P. Cassidy"
wrote:

Suppose I buy metric socket set. Will I have the
same problem workign on English size fasteners?

Do I need to wrench sets in each vehicle?

Yes: until the USA catches up with the rest of the world, you'll need both.

Rednecks hate foreign measurements. Give me a good ole American made
wrench.

On Thu, 22 Oct 2015 16:32:38 -0400, wrote:

You buy a "combo set". SAE and Metric. I have sockets and wrenches
in combo sets. It ticks me off American made cars require both.

Most current "american" cars are fully metric, but they use the
oddball 13mm and 11mm etc that are almost identical to SAE sises (1/2
and 11/16) as well as the unique metrics like 10 and 12

"Most"? My recent new four way lug wrench is SAE.

On 10/22/2015 2:52 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
I'm actually surprised that *you* are this late to the game.

In any case, get 6 points, not 12. They grip so much better...much less
chance (none?) of rounding off the head of the bolt. They do lack a bit in
"convenience" when positioning over the bolt head, but they feel (and act)
so much more secure.

1/2" drive for brakes and suspension, 3/8" drive for just about everything
else.


It's obvious that I'm failing in the nerd department.
I should know this kind of thing. Well, so, does my
Harbor Freight metric set do the SAE sizes also?

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On 10/22/2015 2:52 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
In any case, get 6 points, not 12. They grip so much better...much less
chance (none?) of rounding off the head of the bolt. They do lack a bit in
"convenience" when positioning over the bolt head, but they feel (and act)
so much more secure.

1/2" drive for brakes and suspension, 3/8" drive for just about everything
else.


The only time I've totally needed 12 point, is
distributor wrench. I do agree about the six
points. When I did heating, my trainer had a
1/4 drive SAE ratchet set. I was amazed how
much he could do with that. Now days, I find
a 1/4 drive set can do a lot.

Yesterday a friend and I changed a windshield
wiper motor (10 MM) and a wiper transmission
(also needs 10 MM wrench). Both with quarter
inch drive set. Nut to remover wiper blade is
13 MM wrench. All done with quarter inch
drive wrenches.

Replacing leaf springs, half drive and power
tools are preferred.

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On 10/22/2015 3:02 PM, Don Y wrote:
On 10/22/2015 10:59 AM, Stormin Mormon wrote:

Do I need two wrench sets in each vehicle?

Unless it's a foreign-made vehicle, you'll need both
(US cars are frequently a mixture of both types).

I keep a "dual" socket set in each vehicle and
"select" wrenches (e.g., I almost always use a wrench
to deal with the drain plug for the oil pan so keep
that wrench) in each vehicle.

Thankfully, we have 1/4", 3/8", 1/2" "drive" and not
6mm, 9mm, 12mm "drive" sockets! :


For now, looks like two wrench sets in each vehicle.
Thanks for the wisdom.

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On 10/22/2015 4:30 PM, wrote:
You need 2 sets, and for the metric set it depends what vehicle you
are working on and where the set originates. Some vehicles only use
8,10,12,15,17,19,21 and 24
Others use 8,11,13,16,18, and 22
Others use other combinations.
A "full" metric set includes everyrhing from 8mm to 28mm.

Then there are the oddball aplications (have not run across them in
automotive) that use decimal sized metrics - like 5.5

You don't need 2 of each ratchet or extension as all metric sockes (at
least in the north american market) use 1/4, 3/8, or 1/2 inch drives
for light to medium duty use, and 3/4 or 1 inch for HD use


Today I bought one eaches HF quarter inch
drive metric set, that goes to 13 MM. Will
get me in and out of most of my repair
needs. Surely would have done good for the
windshield wiper repair yesterday.

See if that set goes on sale, buy a set for
the other vehicle.

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Christopher A. Young
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On 10/22/2015 4:30 PM, Oren wrote:

I just hate going back to the tool box or having to climb out from
under a vehicle to get another sized tool. Give me one choice. SAE or
Metric, but not both of 'em on the same project


Agree. There are some moments when it's
nice to have a boy to run for tools.
My new neighbor is adult retired mechanic,
so we take turns being each others tool
monkey.

With wrenches, it's often best to bring the
entire set under the vehicle, or the entire
socket stick with all the sizes.

Just like doing HVAC, or appliance repair,
it's best to bring the entire tool box, bag,
or waist pack. Rather than just what you
think you'll need.

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On 10/22/2015 4:32 PM, wrote:
Most current "american" cars are fully metric, but they use the
oddball 13mm and 11mm etc that are almost identical to SAE sises (1/2
and 11/16) as well as the unique metrics like 10 and 12


I see 10 MM every which where, and it doesn't
work with any of the SAE sizes. Is there a list
on the web, which sizes convert?

13 MM is slightly larger than 1/2 inch, but some
looser sockets will work.

10 MM, doesn't work with anything out of my SAE box.

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On 10/22/2015 4:36 PM, wrote:
Too bad you are in Yankland instead of here in Canada - Canadian
Tire has their Mastercraft combination set - all metric and inch -
1/4, 3/8 and 1/2 inch drive - on sale for $159 - normally about $600.
Might be worth a road trip up to Buffalo/Niagara or up to
Kingston/thousand Islands to snag yourself a set this week. The
Mastercraft tools are VERY good value.


That's a first class set of wrenches, but
I'm on a Harbor Freight budget.

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On 10/22/2015 4:40 PM, Oren wrote:
On Thu, 22 Oct 2015 14:12:53 -0400, "Percival P. Cassidy"
Yes: until the USA catches up with the rest of the world, you'll need both.

Rednecks hate foreign measurements. Give me a good ole American made
wrench.


I'm not all that pleased, here. After all, we got
things done with SAE for how many years. Then this
metric stuff came along, and now it's all a mess.

Next, we'll have foreigners teaching in schools and
making marketing phone calls and who knows what else.
Draining our welfare dollars.

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On 10/22/2015 4:46 PM, Oren wrote:
Most current "american" cars are fully metric, but they use the
oddball 13mm and 11mm etc that are almost identical to SAE sises (1/2
and 11/16) as well as the unique metrics like 10 and 12

"Most"? My recent new four way lug wrench is SAE.


You use your SAE lug wrench on your 19 and 21 MM lugs?

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On 10/22/2015 2:04 PM, wrote:

These days you need both to work on just about anything.


So true. I went to change a brake on a friend's
wheel chair. Went out and got my socket set.
Wonders, the nut needs 10 MM, and I didn't have
one in my SAE set. That started a quest to find
10 MM sockets sold separately. HF has them, in
deep, and 3/8 drive. Not much help with my 1/4
drive socket sets.

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On 10/22/2015 2:06 PM, trader_4 wrote:

Yes, you need both. Some are close enough that they work
perfectly. For example, 32mm is extremely close to 1.25", so
a 1.25" wrench that I already have works fine. Some are just
about there. So, then it depends on how tight the bolt is
and how lucky you feel today. Round it off, and you're screwed....


Is it half inch or 13 MM? Well, punk, I wasn't
counting either. I guess the question is do you
feel lucky, today?

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On 10/22/2015 2:12 PM, Percival P. Cassidy wrote:
On 10/22/2015 01:59 PM, Stormin Mormon wrote:


Do I need two wrench sets in each vehicle?

Yes: until the USA catches up with the rest of the world, you'll need both.

Perce


Why is it "catching up" when SAE worked fine
for 100 years or so? It's not like we had all
kind of trouble with SAE sizes. And, to boot,
we were here first. Metric is the upstart.

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On 10/22/2015 2:13 PM, Oren wrote:

You buy a "combo set". SAE and Metric. I have sockets and wrenches
in combo sets. It ticks me off American made cars require both.


That gets me thinking, the 3/8 drive set I
bought at HF might be combo. It's a little
larger box, so I've got it some where else
other than the 1/4 drive sets. Wonder if it's
a combo set? That could solve a lot of mix
and match moments.

Good idea, thank you.

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On Thu, 22 Oct 2015 13:46:24 -0700, Oren wrote:

On Thu, 22 Oct 2015 16:32:38 -0400, wrote:

You buy a "combo set". SAE and Metric. I have sockets and wrenches
in combo sets. It ticks me off American made cars require both.

Most current "american" cars are fully metric, but they use the
oddball 13mm and 11mm etc that are almost identical to SAE sises (1/2
and 11/16) as well as the unique metrics like 10 and 12

"Most"? My recent new four way lug wrench is SAE.
What is the thread on a 2002 Ford Taurus wheel stud, and what is the
size of the nut? (hint - neither one is measured in inches)
How about Chrysler/Dodge from about 1978 and up?
And Lincoln from 1988 on? They are not 3/4" AF nuts either - they are
19 mm - that's .05mm smaller than 3/4". And not 13/16, but 21mm. Just
..63mm smaller than 13/16"

They use 12mm studs.

On Thu, 22 Oct 2015 17:43:34 -0400, Stormin Mormon
wrote:

On 10/22/2015 2:52 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
I'm actually surprised that *you* are this late to the game.

In any case, get 6 points, not 12. They grip so much better...much less
chance (none?) of rounding off the head of the bolt. They do lack a bit in
"convenience" when positioning over the bolt head, but they feel (and act)
so much more secure.

1/2" drive for brakes and suspension, 3/8" drive for just about everything
else.


It's obvious that I'm failing in the nerd department.
I should know this kind of thing. Well, so, does my
Harbor Freight metric set do the SAE sizes also?
Nope. You need either a "combination" set or 2 separate sets. A
"combination" set is 2 sets in one box. Up here in Canada that is the
most cpommon socket set you can buy.

On Thu, 22 Oct 2015 17:52:45 -0400, Stormin Mormon
wrote:

On 10/22/2015 4:30 PM, wrote:
You need 2 sets, and for the metric set it depends what vehicle you
are working on and where the set originates. Some vehicles only use
8,10,12,15,17,19,21 and 24
Others use 8,11,13,16,18, and 22
Others use other combinations.
A "full" metric set includes everyrhing from 8mm to 28mm.

Then there are the oddball aplications (have not run across them in
automotive) that use decimal sized metrics - like 5.5

You don't need 2 of each ratchet or extension as all metric sockes (at
least in the north american market) use 1/4, 3/8, or 1/2 inch drives
for light to medium duty use, and 3/4 or 1 inch for HD use


Today I bought one eaches HF quarter inch
drive metric set, that goes to 13 MM. Will
get me in and out of most of my repair
needs. Surely would have done good for the
windshield wiper repair yesterday.

See if that set goes on sale, buy a set for
the other vehicle.
If you are only going to have one set, make it a 3/8". You can
always use an adapter down to 1/4 for the smaller sizes (10mm and
smaller)- 1/4" reatchets etc are designed for low torque - generally
no more than 20 ft lb (240 in lb)

On 10/22/2015 6:10 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 22 Oct 2015 17:43:34 -0400, Stormin Mormon
It's obvious that I'm failing in the nerd department.
I should know this kind of thing. Well, so, does my
Harbor Freight metric set do the SAE sizes also?
Nope. You need either a "combination" set or 2 separate sets. A
"combination" set is 2 sets in one box. Up here in Canada that is the
most cpommon socket set you can buy.


I've found that often 13 MM will do 1/2 inch. Wonder
if there are other sizes that do double duty?

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On 10/22/2015 6:15 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 22 Oct 2015 17:52:45 -0400, Stormin Mormon
Today I bought one eaches HF quarter inch
drive metric set, that goes to 13 MM. Will
get me in and out of most of my repair
needs. Surely would have done good for the
windshield wiper repair yesterday.

See if that set goes on sale, buy a set for
the other vehicle.
If you are only going to have one set, make it a 3/8". You can
always use an adapter down to 1/4 for the smaller sizes (10mm and
smaller)- 1/4" reatchets etc are designed for low torque - generally
no more than 20 ft lb (240 in lb)


I've been very pleased with the 1/3 drive
sets for most jobs. Though, I do have larger
available if needed.

My other job is refrigeration repair, and the
SAE quarter drive set is handy for changing
fan motors on smaller equipment. And for many
tasks for larger equipment, also.

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On Thursday, October 22, 2015 at 6:26:03 PM UTC-4, Stormin Mormon wrote:
On 10/22/2015 6:15 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 22 Oct 2015 17:52:45 -0400, Stormin Mormon
Today I bought one eaches HF quarter inch
drive metric set, that goes to 13 MM. Will
get me in and out of most of my repair
needs. Surely would have done good for the
windshield wiper repair yesterday.

See if that set goes on sale, buy a set for
the other vehicle.
If you are only going to have one set, make it a 3/8". You can
always use an adapter down to 1/4 for the smaller sizes (10mm and
smaller)- 1/4" reatchets etc are designed for low torque - generally
no more than 20 ft lb (240 in lb)


I've been very pleased with the 1/3 drive
sets for most jobs. Though, I do have larger
available if needed.


Does HF have a coupon for the 1/3 drive sets?

"Stormin Mormon" wrote in message
...
On 10/22/2015 2:04 PM, wrote:

These days you need both to work on just about anything.


So true. I went to change a brake on a friend's
wheel chair. Went out and got my socket set.
Wonders, the nut needs 10 MM, and I didn't have
one in my SAE set. That started a quest to find
10 MM sockets sold separately. HF has them, in
deep, and 3/8 drive. Not much help with my 1/4
drive socket sets.


Get on down to HF as they have a set on sell for 4.99. 3/8 inch ratchet and
sockets. About the price of one good socket.

On Thu, 22 Oct 2015 17:56:57 -0400, Stormin Mormon
wrote:

On 10/22/2015 4:32 PM, wrote:
Most current "american" cars are fully metric, but they use the
oddball 13mm and 11mm etc that are almost identical to SAE sises (1/2
and 11/16) as well as the unique metrics like 10 and 12


I see 10 MM every which where, and it doesn't
work with any of the SAE sizes. Is there a list
on the web, which sizes convert?

13 MM is slightly larger than 1/2 inch, but some
looser sockets will work.

10 MM, doesn't work with anything out of my SAE box.

Yup I have a 10mm in my SAE set, because of that.
You see metric stuff pop up in the strangest places. The other strange
one is 7mm
I have a slip handle nut driver that came with 1/4" and 5/16 " and
used to open just about anything with hex sheet metal screws.

I ended up getting another one, cutting off the 1/4" and adding a 7mm.
5/16 and 8mm are functionally the same.
If you have that and a 10mm socket, you can do just about anything you
are going to do with a Yamaha mid range outboard on the water.

On 10/22/2015 6:49 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Thursday, October 22, 2015 at 6:26:03 PM UTC-4, Stormin Mormon wrote:

I've been very pleased with the 1/3 drive
sets for most jobs. Though, I do have larger
available if needed.


Does HF have a coupon for the 1/3 drive sets?


Yep, they go on sale 1/3 off, now and again.

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On 10/22/2015 6:58 PM, Ralph Mowery wrote:
"Stormin Mormon" wrote in message
So true. I went to change a brake on a friend's
wheel chair. Went out and got my socket set.
Wonders, the nut needs 10 MM, and I didn't have
one in my SAE set. That started a quest to find
10 MM sockets sold separately. HF has them, in
deep, and 3/8 drive. Not much help with my 1/4
drive socket sets.


Get on down to HF as they have a set on sell for 4.99. 3/8 inch ratchet and
sockets. About the price of one good socket.


Sadly, I was just in a HF earlier today.
I'll have to check on that. I think I
know the set you mean. Have on in the truck,
but keep forgetting I have it.

There are few problems that cannot be solved
with HF tools.

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On Thu, 22 Oct 2015 18:04:14 -0400, Stormin Mormon
wrote:

On 10/22/2015 2:04 PM, wrote:

These days you need both to work on just about anything.


So true. I went to change a brake on a friend's
wheel chair. Went out and got my socket set.
Wonders, the nut needs 10 MM, and I didn't have
one in my SAE set. That started a quest to find
10 MM sockets sold separately. HF has them, in
deep, and 3/8 drive. Not much help with my 1/4
drive socket sets.

The pawn shop is the best place to get loose sockets. They usually
have a big box of them for a buck each and usually you get a discount
on more than a few.
I put a whole set of name brand sockets together for $5 along with a
few spares of the ones you use/lose a lot.
I found out about that 10mm thing years ago when the commie metric
thing was just catching hold here

On Thu, 22 Oct 2015 18:09:08 -0400, wrote:

On Thu, 22 Oct 2015 13:46:24 -0700, Oren wrote:

On Thu, 22 Oct 2015 16:32:38 -0400, wrote:

You buy a "combo set". SAE and Metric. I have sockets and wrenches
in combo sets. It ticks me off American made cars require both.

Most current "american" cars are fully metric, but they use the
oddball 13mm and 11mm etc that are almost identical to SAE sises (1/2
and 11/16) as well as the unique metrics like 10 and 12

"Most"? My recent new four way lug wrench is SAE.
What is the thread on a 2002 Ford Taurus wheel stud, and what is the
size of the nut? (hint - neither one is measured in inches)
How about Chrysler/Dodge from about 1978 and up?
And Lincoln from 1988 on? They are not 3/4" AF nuts either - they are
19 mm - that's .05mm smaller than 3/4". And not 13/16, but 21mm. Just
.63mm smaller than 13/16"

They use 12mm studs.

What size is the drive on your medium metric socket set? 9.5mm?

We also see 1/4-20 threaded bolts with 10mm heads. Engineers seem to
be bi-polar.