On Sat, 24 Oct 2015 16:17:32 -0700 (PDT), Uncle Monster
wrote:

On Saturday, October 24, 2015 at 4:47:08 PM UTC-5, wrote:
On Sat, 24 Oct 2015 14:07:46 -0400, Stormin Mormon
wrote:

Save some money and buy a monkey wrench.

Would I shop at Mongomery Wards?

This is a Monkey Ward 1/2" extension that I snapped off. (Power Craft)

http://gfretwell.com/ftp/broken%20extension.jpg

Dang! How'd that happen?! o_O

[8~{} Uncle Dang Monster

Trying to get the balancer bolt out of a Honda.
The pipe was about 4 feet long. I ended up taking it to the shop for
the $1000 belt job.

On Sunday, October 25, 2015 at 12:37:25 AM UTC-5, wrote:
On Sat, 24 Oct 2015 16:17:32 -0700 (PDT), Uncle Monster
wrote:

On Saturday, October 24, 2015 at 4:47:08 PM UTC-5, wrote:
On Sat, 24 Oct 2015 14:07:46 -0400, Stormin Mormon
wrote:

Save some money and buy a monkey wrench.

Would I shop at Mongomery Wards?

This is a Monkey Ward 1/2" extension that I snapped off. (Power Craft)

http://gfretwell.com/ftp/broken%20extension.jpg

Dang! How'd that happen?! o_O

[8~{} Uncle Dang Monster

Trying to get the balancer bolt out of a Honda.
The pipe was about 4 feet long. I ended up taking it to the shop for
the $1000 belt job.

A 3/4" drive may not have broken but when I abused a socket set in such a way, I opted to use the 3/4" impact sockets and extensions with a breaker bar that I had in my collection of mechanical torture devices. ^_^

[8~{} Uncle Torque Monster

On Sat, 24 Oct 2015 22:50:13 -0700 (PDT), Uncle Monster
wrote:

On Sunday, October 25, 2015 at 12:37:25 AM UTC-5, wrote:
On Sat, 24 Oct 2015 16:17:32 -0700 (PDT), Uncle Monster
wrote:

On Saturday, October 24, 2015 at 4:47:08 PM UTC-5, wrote:
On Sat, 24 Oct 2015 14:07:46 -0400, Stormin Mormon
wrote:

Save some money and buy a monkey wrench.

Would I shop at Mongomery Wards?

This is a Monkey Ward 1/2" extension that I snapped off. (Power Craft)

http://gfretwell.com/ftp/broken%20extension.jpg

Dang! How'd that happen?! o_O

[8~{} Uncle Dang Monster

Trying to get the balancer bolt out of a Honda.
The pipe was about 4 feet long. I ended up taking it to the shop for
the $1000 belt job.

A 3/4" drive may not have broken but when I abused a socket set in such a way, I opted to use the 3/4" impact sockets and extensions with a breaker bar that I had in my collection of mechanical torture devices. ^_^

[8~{} Uncle Torque Monster

I was prepared to buy myself a present (a 3/4" impact gun) but this
was such a miserable job on a Prelude, I just bailed out on it.
The dealer actually loosens the motor mounts and lifts the engine a
bit to get in there.
It isn't like most FWDs, You don't remove the wheel well and see the
belt. It is lined up precisely with the strut housing, about 1/4" away
from the cover. Even sneaking the cover off doesn't help much.
The $1000 belt job includes a water pump, a main seal job and a few
other things that are easier when the motor is loose.

On 10/25/2015 12:20 AM, wrote:
I was prepared to buy myself a present (a 3/4" impact gun) but this
was such a miserable job on a Prelude, I just bailed out on it.

Any red Loctite involved? Harley is fond of that for one particular nut.
First you start with a torch to destroy the Loctite.

On Sun, 25 Oct 2015 12:34:07 -0600, rbowman
wrote:

On 10/25/2015 12:20 AM, wrote:
I was prepared to buy myself a present (a 3/4" impact gun) but this
was such a miserable job on a Prelude, I just bailed out on it.

Any red Loctite involved? Harley is fond of that for one particular nut.
First you start with a torch to destroy the Loctite.

If you are talking about the but on the main shaft of the transmission
(where the clutch bolts on) you need to remember it is left hand
thread ;-)

I was not ready to torch a crank shaft but that may be why Honda sells
you the seal.

On 10/25/2015 12:47 PM, wrote:
If you are talking about the but on the main shaft of the transmission
(where the clutch bolts on) you need to remember it is left hand
thread;-)

Those. Back in the day when Mopar had a thing for left handed lugnuts
more than one stud got snapped off with the application of a breaker bar
and 4' of pipe. iirc, the rear brake drum was held on the axle by a
large left-handed nut too. Or maybe I'm just remembering the pain of
using a puller to get the drum assembly off the taper.

On Sunday, October 25, 2015 at 7:55:46 PM UTC-5, rbowman wrote:
On 10/25/2015 12:47 PM, wrote:
If you are talking about the but on the main shaft of the transmission
(where the clutch bolts on) you need to remember it is left hand
thread;-)

Those. Back in the day when Mopar had a thing for left handed lugnuts
more than one stud got snapped off with the application of a breaker bar
and 4' of pipe. iirc, the rear brake drum was held on the axle by a
large left-handed nut too. Or maybe I'm just remembering the pain of
using a puller to get the drum assembly off the taper.

My family had a 63 Dodge with left handed lug nuts on one side of the car. I don't recall which side. o_O

[8~{} Uncle Right Monster

On 10/26/2015 3:48 AM, Uncle Monster wrote:
Those. Back in the day when Mopar had a thing for left handed lugnuts
more than one stud got snapped off with the application of a breaker bar
and 4' of pipe. iirc, the rear brake drum was held on the axle by a
large left-handed nut too. Or maybe I'm just remembering the pain of
using a puller to get the drum assembly off the taper.

My family had a 63 Dodge with left handed lug
nuts on one side of the car. I don't recall
which side. o_O

[8~{} Uncle Right Monster


Easy enough to tell, they had a big L on the end
of the covered end, so you could tell. Some travel
trailers had em, also.


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On Monday, October 26, 2015 at 7:39:49 AM UTC-5, Stormin Mormon wrote:
On 10/26/2015 3:48 AM, Uncle Monster wrote:
Those. Back in the day when Mopar had a thing for left handed lugnuts
more than one stud got snapped off with the application of a breaker bar
and 4' of pipe. iirc, the rear brake drum was held on the axle by a
large left-handed nut too. Or maybe I'm just remembering the pain of
using a puller to get the drum assembly off the taper.

My family had a 63 Dodge with left handed lug
nuts on one side of the car. I don't recall
which side. o_O

[8~{} Uncle Right Monster


Easy enough to tell, they had a big L on the end
of the covered end, so you could tell. Some travel
trailers had em, also.
-
.
I do remember the "L" on the end of the lug nuts so I checked and found the left handed lug nuts were on the driver's side of not only old Chrysler Corp cars but Buick, Oldsmobile and Pontiac also employed left-hand lug nuts on the driver-side of most cars they built in the 1955-1961 period. ^_^

http://www.moparmax.com/columns/magnante/v_5-1.html

[8~{} Uncle Nut Monster

On 10/26/2015 9:42 AM, Uncle Monster wrote:
Easy enough to tell, they had a big L on the end
of the covered end, so you could tell. Some travel
trailers had em, also.
-
.
I do remember the "L" on the end of the lug nuts so I checked and found the left handed lug nuts were on the driver's side of not only old Chrysler Corp cars but Buick, Oldsmobile and Pontiac also employed left-hand lug nuts on the driver-side of most cars they built in the 1955-1961 period. ^_^

http://www.moparmax.com/columns/magnante/v_5-1.html

[8~{} Uncle Nut Monster


The one time I found L lugs on a trailer, was on the
(USA) driver side. So, we agree on that.

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Christopher A. Young
learn more about Jesus
.. www.lds.org
..
..

On Mon, 26 Oct 2015 00:48:23 -0700 (PDT), Uncle Monster
wrote:

On Sunday, October 25, 2015 at 7:55:46 PM UTC-5, rbowman wrote:
On 10/25/2015 12:47 PM, wrote:
If you are talking about the but on the main shaft of the transmission
(where the clutch bolts on) you need to remember it is left hand
thread;-)

Those. Back in the day when Mopar had a thing for left handed lugnuts
more than one stud got snapped off with the application of a breaker bar
and 4' of pipe. iirc, the rear brake drum was held on the axle by a
large left-handed nut too. Or maybe I'm just remembering the pain of
using a puller to get the drum assembly off the taper.

My family had a 63 Dodge with left handed lug nuts on one side of the car. I don't recall which side. o_O

[8~{} Uncle Right Monster
Inless someone screwed with it, they were on the left. On Hudsons and
some oldsmobiles as well - as well as some old brits and a handful of
others.

On 10/26/2015 07:42 AM, Uncle Monster wrote:
I do remember the "L" on the end of the lug nuts so I checked and found the left handed lug nuts were on the driver's side of not only old Chrysler Corp cars but Buick, Oldsmobile and Pontiac also employed left-hand lug nuts on the driver-side of most cars they built in the 1955-1961 period. ^_^

There might have been an 'L' on the stud but real men don't read
(instructions).

On Monday, October 26, 2015 at 8:57:03 PM UTC-5, rbowman wrote:
On 10/26/2015 07:42 AM, Uncle Monster wrote:
I do remember the "L" on the end of the lug nuts so I checked and found the left handed lug nuts were on the driver's side of not only old Chrysler Corp cars but Buick, Oldsmobile and Pontiac also employed left-hand lug nuts on the driver-side of most cars they built in the 1955-1961 period. ^_^

There might have been an 'L' on the stud but real men don't read
(instructions).

You're correct of course but I seem to recall a small L stamped on the lug nuts. Anyway that funky monster was powered by a slant 6 and had a push button automatic. ^__^

[8~{} Uncle Slant Monster

On 10/26/2015 10:34 PM, Uncle Monster wrote:
You're correct of course but I seem to recall a small L stamped on the lug nuts. Anyway that funky monster was powered by a slant 6 and had a push button automatic.

Ah, the pushbutton Torqueflite. My Plymouth had one of those but I
transplanted a manual tranny. Of course, that required fabricating a
hydraulic clutch actuator and building a new drive shaft. I thought the
project was through until a state trooper busted my for no emergency
brake. The Torquflite had a drum brake on the tail shaft. That meant
another trip to the junkyard to get a rear axle and fabricating yet
another actuator. The car was a bit of a Frankenstein by the time I got
through with it.

On Tuesday, October 27, 2015 at 12:14:39 AM UTC-5, rbowman wrote:
On 10/26/2015 10:34 PM, Uncle Monster wrote:
You're correct of course but I seem to recall a small L stamped on the lug nuts. Anyway that funky monster was powered by a slant 6 and had a push button automatic.

Ah, the pushbutton Torqueflite. My Plymouth had one of those but I
transplanted a manual tranny. Of course, that required fabricating a
hydraulic clutch actuator and building a new drive shaft. I thought the
project was through until a state trooper busted my for no emergency
brake. The Torquflite had a drum brake on the tail shaft. That meant
another trip to the junkyard to get a rear axle and fabricating yet
another actuator. The car was a bit of a Frankenstein by the time I got
through with it.

That was the cool thing about the old Mopars, you could swap parts around on them from one vehicle to another and parts over a period of years could be bolted in to upgrade an older vehicle. I had a load of fun mixing and matching parts on the cars we had. On the family farm we could have all sorts of disassembled vehicles and tractors laying around with no neighbors next door to complain about it. I kind of miss those days. ^_^

[8~{} Uncle Mopar Monster

Uncle Monster used his keyboard to write :
On Saturday, October 24, 2015 at 2:02:49 PM UTC-5, Eagle wrote:
After serious thinking Uncle Monster wrote :
On Saturday, October 24, 2015 at 10:36:56 AM UTC-5, Eagle wrote:
on 10/22/2015, Stormin Mormon supposed :
Doing some vehicle work yesterday. SAE socket set
won't work, becuae 10 MM is between 3/8 and 7/16.
And 13 MM is between 1/2 and 9/16.

Suppose I buy metric socket set. Will I have the
same problem workign on English size fasteners?

Do I need to wrench sets in each vehicle?

Save some money and buy a monkey wrench.

I have some closed ended wrenches and sockets that fit both SAE inch and
metric bolts. They're similar to those in the link. It has to do with
arrangement and shape of the splines. I have some open end wrenches that
have an interesting profile which allows them to fit both types and
actually have a ratchet action. I'm a sort of tool junkie. ^_^

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5DSaaA-ytA4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCmI-rPOGXc

[8~{} Uncle Wrench Monster

Cool...I used to be. Now I hardly ever use My tools.

Does your tool even work anymore? *snicker*....Sorry, sometimes my teenage id
slips out every now and then. ^_^

[8~{} Uncle Sophomoric Monster

It does, but I have to give it incentive to come out of it's cave. 8-o

Cave Dave

On Wednesday, October 28, 2015 at 10:04:20 AM UTC-5, Eagle wrote:
Uncle Monster used his keyboard to write :
On Saturday, October 24, 2015 at 2:02:49 PM UTC-5, Eagle wrote:
After serious thinking Uncle Monster wrote :
On Saturday, October 24, 2015 at 10:36:56 AM UTC-5, Eagle wrote:
on 10/22/2015, Stormin Mormon supposed :
Doing some vehicle work yesterday. SAE socket set
won't work, becuae 10 MM is between 3/8 and 7/16.
And 13 MM is between 1/2 and 9/16.

Suppose I buy metric socket set. Will I have the
same problem workign on English size fasteners?

Do I need to wrench sets in each vehicle?

Save some money and buy a monkey wrench.

I have some closed ended wrenches and sockets that fit both SAE inch and
metric bolts. They're similar to those in the link. It has to do with
arrangement and shape of the splines. I have some open end wrenches that
have an interesting profile which allows them to fit both types and
actually have a ratchet action. I'm a sort of tool junkie. ^_^

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5DSaaA-ytA4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCmI-rPOGXc

[8~{} Uncle Wrench Monster

Cool...I used to be. Now I hardly ever use My tools.

Does your tool even work anymore? *snicker*....Sorry, sometimes my teenage id
slips out every now and then. ^_^

[8~{} Uncle Sophomoric Monster

It does, but I have to give it incentive to come out of it's cave. 8-o

Cave Dave

In cold weather? ^_^

[8~{} Uncle Cave Monster

on 10/28/2015, Uncle Monster supposed :
On Wednesday, October 28, 2015 at 10:04:20 AM UTC-5, Eagle wrote:
Uncle Monster used his keyboard to write :
On Saturday, October 24, 2015 at 2:02:49 PM UTC-5, Eagle wrote:
After serious thinking Uncle Monster wrote :
On Saturday, October 24, 2015 at 10:36:56 AM UTC-5, Eagle wrote:
on 10/22/2015, Stormin Mormon supposed :
Doing some vehicle work yesterday. SAE socket set
won't work, becuae 10 MM is between 3/8 and 7/16.
And 13 MM is between 1/2 and 9/16.

Suppose I buy metric socket set. Will I have the
same problem workign on English size fasteners?

Do I need to wrench sets in each vehicle?

Save some money and buy a monkey wrench.

I have some closed ended wrenches and sockets that fit both SAE inch and
metric bolts. They're similar to those in the link. It has to do with
arrangement and shape of the splines. I have some open end wrenches that
have an interesting profile which allows them to fit both types and
actually have a ratchet action. I'm a sort of tool junkie. ^_^

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5DSaaA-ytA4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCmI-rPOGXc

[8~{} Uncle Wrench Monster

Cool...I used to be. Now I hardly ever use My tools.

Does your tool even work anymore? *snicker*....Sorry, sometimes my teenage
id slips out every now and then. ^_^

[8~{} Uncle Sophomoric Monster

It does, but I have to give it incentive to come out of it's cave. 8-o

Cave Dave

In cold weather? ^_^

[8~{} Uncle Cave Monster

You have to lassoo it and drag it out in cold weather Monster dude...
)