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Nate Perkins wrote:
"My Old Tools" wrote in : PC biscuit joiner. I just don't use it. Mortise and tenon is stronger and I prefer it to the noise and dust. I agree with you. I don't have a biscuit joiner. Haven't needed one yet. I use all mortise and tenon or dovetail. Of course it would be different if I were doing this for a living and not a hobby. I wouldn't use it where I would use a heavy tenon, either... |
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Larry Jaques wrote:
.... B&D belt sander. This one is over 30 years old and has seen about 3 hours total work in that time. ... Is it the 735 3x24 by any chance? I'll be more than happy to pay you for it plus shipping...I have worn two out and can't find anything currently made that I like for balance anyways near as much... Unfortunately, the particular gears that are worn are no longer available to repair mine... |
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foggytown wrote:
And now in a burst of refreshing honesty we're all going to admit to the most useless, waste-of-money, unnecessary, white elephant, "why the hell did I ever buy that" tool in our arsenal. Interesting thread. I can think of a lot of contenders for most useless. However, the tool that clearly takes the cake is the first hand plane I ever bought, quite a long time before I ever really settled down with the notion of trying to make interesting things out of wood. I think I bought it to trim a door in an apartment. Anyway, years later, I picked it back up and tried to do something interesting with it. It was one of those simple types with no mechanical depth adjuster. You had to loosen a big wheel, then jiggle the blade a bit to try to get it to project just right. Very fiddly. Worse, it had an ALUMINUM body. Based on more recent research, I would have thought Stanley got over this bad idea after the dismal failure of their Sweetheart line, but I suppose not. Aluminum planes suck for all the reasons you've ever read about. Not the least of which is that they leave horrible black streaks on everything. Adding insult to injury, it was never made very well. The sole wasn't flat, the cheeks weren't perpendicular to the sole. It was almost impossible to adjust, and it wouldn't stay adjusted for love or money. I tried to true it up and tune it, but I ultimately just threw the thing in the trash. I kept the iron out of it, and that's the only piece. It's rare for me to toss anything. I still have a flywheel from a Nordic Trac, and the remains of my ill-fated treadmill belt sander. I can always find some use for almost everything eventually, but this plane was a completely useless piece of crap. I can come up with other tools that really aren't very useful. My hot glue gun hasn't been seen since I don't know when, and I don't really miss it. My Crapsman router and table is a tool the use of which is best studiously avoided. My cheap Delta scrollsaw is a close second to this plane for most useless, poorly-conceived purchase, but even that stupid space waster has proven sort of halfway useful at least twice. No, the plane wins, hands down. -- Michael McIntyre ---- Silvan Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621 http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/ http://rosegarden.sourceforge.net/tutorial/ |
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porter cable detail sander, cant keep paper on the thing for more than a few
seconds jim |
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"mark" wrote in
: "Nate Perkins" wrote in message . 125.201... .... I agree with you. I don't have a biscuit joiner. Haven't needed one yet. I use all mortise and tenon or dovetail. Of course it would be different if I were doing this for a living and not a hobby. I use mine for some panel glue-ups. How do you do yours? A spline? Dowels? I glue up right after jointing, lightly clamping only 3-4 boards at most at one time. I make sure the joints are flat at the ends and middle by feel, and use a rubber mallet to fine position the boards prior to tight clamping. I do the (wider) final glueup from the sections in the same way. Works okay for me ... although I can see your point that on a big glueup it would be very handy to have a biscuit joiner. |
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On Wed, 29 Dec 2004 21:51:57 GMT, Nate Perkins wrote:
"My Old Tools" wrote in : PC biscuit joiner. I just don't use it. Mortise and tenon is stronger and I prefer it to the noise and dust. I agree with you. I don't have a biscuit joiner. Haven't needed one yet. I use all mortise and tenon or dovetail. Of course it would be different if I were doing this for a living and not a hobby. How about for, say, a tabletop? Rather than just edge-gluing? Dave Hinz |
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On Wed, 29 Dec 2004 22:02:21 GMT, mark wrote:
A rotozip tool. How can they even sell one? Why did I buy one? I thought I could use it to rough out some sheetrock electrical socket holes, but it was pretty crappy. Oh yeah, got one of those too. Also as a gift. Also from SWMBO... I used it to cut some round cuts on tile (toilet flange), and the tile got into the front bearing and it squeals like a pig now. Odd that using a tool in a manner shown on the box would ruin it. I hate tools that are broken by design. And don't even get me started about Christmas presents that are so poorly designed or made that they're broken out of the box. (DISNEY, I'M TALKING ABOUT YOU PEOPLE). Dave "Ahem. Sorry." Hinz |
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"Dave Hinz" wrote in message ... On Wed, 29 Dec 2004 22:02:21 GMT, mark wrote: A rotozip tool. How can they even sell one? Why did I buy one? I thought I could use it to rough out some sheetrock electrical socket holes, but it was pretty crappy. Oh yeah, got one of those too. Also as a gift. Also from SWMBO... I used it to cut some round cuts on tile (toilet flange), and the tile got into the front bearing and it squeals like a pig now. Odd that using a tool in a manner shown on the box would ruin it. That's funny -- here's a tip for you from someone who hates to throw anything out. I had it in my hands, on the way to the trash, because mine squealed exactly like yours. Then I thought, "what the hell, it's only 4 screws. The least I can do is see what makes it tick, then cut the cord off if it's nothing obviously wrong. So...it wasn't the bearing. The squealing is caused by the little white finned cooling fan slipping down on the shiny, polished (yeah, good move) shaft, and contacting the plastic housing. I clipped mine completely out, and the tool works fine now. I have no idea what I will EVER use it for, but I did see some kind of cut-off sheel attachment that looked marginally useful....but probably not. But i didn't throw it out. |
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On 29 Dec 2004 08:45:31 -0800, "the_tool_man"
wrote: Those little Veritas corner rounding planes - the ones bent from a piece of steel with the little elliptical opening. Woodcraft sells them for $14 apiece. They either split the grain or require so much pressure to work that my fingers get sore quite quickly. Easier and more consistent to use sandpaper or a router. Real handy on sheet plastic, though. --RC "Sometimes history doesn't repeat itself. It just yells 'can't you remember anything I've told you?' and lets fly with a club. -- John W. Cambell Jr. |
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On Thu, 30 Dec 2004 00:37:12 GMT, "Chuck Hoffman"
wrote: Not aimed directly at the last poster but just a general observation: It's amazing how many of us hold onto stuff we'll never (again) use. Many times, the plaintive cry is, "But it's worth more than I can get out of it." Wrong. It's worth exactly NOTHING sitting unused on your shelf. If you sold it to someone, that would accomplish two things: 1) give a disused piece of equipment new life, and 2) put a few bucks in your pocket which you could use to buy wood for a new project. 3) **** off the guy you sold it to. - - LRod Master Woodbutcher and seasoned termite Shamelessly whoring my website since 1999 http://www.woodbutcher.net |
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Does the Ronco Popeil Pocket Fisherman count?
"Jim & Sharon" wrote in message m... porter cable detail sander, cant keep paper on the thing for more than a few seconds jim |
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On Wed, 29 Dec 2004 12:33:14 -0600, Duane Bozarth
calmly ranted: Joe Gorman wrote: Chuck Hoffman wrote: A Ryobi detail sander. It looked like a good idea at the time but... ... Yes, I got one as a gift and don't recall opening it after the obligatory Christmas morning look, however many years ago that was. Joe OTOH, my wife uses hers a lot for the refinishing she does and likes it well... YMMV... You must be rich, Duane. Media cost for those things has to be $50/day, minimum. Have you seen the new Searz circular thingy? It has a pair (or 3?) of 3/4" washer-sized sanding discs on it. I can't imagine how long they'd last while sanding, but I'll bet you a dollar to a donut that it's sub-1-minute. g (Disclaimer: I was in Searz to return an old broken Crapsman tool which they no longer made. I finally settled on a $15 gift card from them. It took me 3 months to get to the gift card ting and to find something to purchase from them. I settled on a long-sleeve shirt and a philips/flat screwdriver blade.) ----------------------------------------------- I'll apologize for offending someone...right after they apologize for being easily offended. ----------------------------------------------- http://www.diversify.com Inoffensive Web Design |
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On 29 Dec 2004 17:28:41 GMT, Dave Hinz wrote:
On 29 Dec 2004 08:02:38 -0800, foggytown wrote: And now in a burst of refreshing honesty we're all going to admit to the most useless, waste-of-money, unnecessary, white elephant, "why the hell did I ever buy that" tool in our arsenal. SWMBO bought me a Black and Decker "sanding mouse" 2 years ago for Christmas. I've never used it, and she's never asked about it. As far as woodworking stuff, clamps. I've got too damn many clamps. Dave "sorry..." Hinz I have one of those, it's great for getting into small spaces and also SWMBO uses it, she doesn't like my big sander. MP Mike Patterson Please remove the spamtrap to email me. "I always wanted to be somebody...I should have been more specific..." - Lily Tomlin |
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"mark" wrote in message ... A rotozip tool. How can they even sell one? Why did I buy one? I thought I could use it to rough out some sheetrock electrical socket holes, but it was pretty crappy. This one gets my vote. Created so much damn dust, I was back to my drywall saw in a flash. |
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"Chuck Hoffman" wrote in
m: Not aimed directly at the last poster but just a general observation: It's amazing how many of us hold onto stuff we'll never (again) use. Many times, the plaintive cry is, "But it's worth more than I can get out of it." Wrong. It's worth exactly NOTHING sitting unused on your shelf. If you sold it to someone, that would accomplish two things: 1) give a disused piece of equipment new life, and 2) put a few bucks in your pocket which you could use to buy wood for a new project. I think too highly of my fellow man to burden someone with bad tools. If someone is fully informed, and knows what they are doing, then, and only then, will I allow them to take/purchase the Searz Routah with AHAF... That, or I'm too embarrassed to admit that I spent good money on crap. I'm old enough to know better. Patriarch |
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On Thu, 30 Dec 2004 01:04:20 +0000, LRod
wrote: On Thu, 30 Dec 2004 00:37:12 GMT, "Chuck Hoffman" wrote: Not aimed directly at the last poster but just a general observation: It's amazing how many of us hold onto stuff we'll never (again) use. Many times, the plaintive cry is, "But it's worth more than I can get out of it." Wrong. It's worth exactly NOTHING sitting unused on your shelf. If you sold it to someone, that would accomplish two things: 1) give a disused piece of equipment new life, and 2) put a few bucks in your pocket which you could use to buy wood for a new project. 3) **** off the guy you sold it to. Funny thing is, that doesn't always happen. I had one of those Wagner paint drip squirters a number of years ago. I got it to paint the house trim -- the house was mostly brick with a bit of trim and some siding on the chimney and roof eaves. After I figured out that this beast was next to useless -- it either spit paint runs or one had to thin the paint to the consistency of water, but it was noisy -- I decided to get an air compressor and a real paint sprayer. One of my wife's co-workers heard about all the problems I had with this thing and offered to buy it; he was absolutel sure I just didn't know how to use it and that *he* could make it work properly. Not one to shrink away from recovering some of my shrunk costs, especially from an arrogant so-and-so, I jumped at the chance to unload this piece of crap. A while later my wife asked him whether he had a chance to use it yet; he replied, "oh yeah, it works great!" uh-huh. - - LRod Master Woodbutcher and seasoned termite Shamelessly whoring my website since 1999 http://www.woodbutcher.net +--------------------------------------------------------------------------------+ Now we'll just use some glue to hold things in place until the brads dry +--------------------------------------------------------------------------------+ |
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"Norman D. Crow" wrote in
: "Patriarch" wrote in message news:n_CAd.39764$k25.30196@attbi_s53... "foggytown" wrote in news:1104336158.089897.251330 @f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com: And now in a burst of refreshing honesty we're all going to admit to the most useless, waste-of-money, unnecessary, white elephant, "why the hell did I ever buy that" tool in our arsenal. The whole @#$%ing Shopsmith incident. I donwannatalkaboudit. Patriarch C'mon now, it does make a halfway useable lathe and drill press. I bought a good drill press for maybe $300. Good used lathes are for sale all the time. But I'm afraid of a good lathe. All the wood turners I know chase tree trimmers, fill their basements with half- turned bowls wrapped in plastic and newspaper, and upgrade to a better, multi-thousand dollar machine every couple of years. I already am trying to get one addiction under control. There are at least a dozen handtools here, which I haven't used yet. ;-) Patriarch |
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"AAvK" wrote in news:hqDAd.60959$QR1.45253@fed1read04:
The whole @#$%ing Shopsmith incident. I donwannatalkaboudit. Patriarch How much $$ would you sell your whole shopsmith outfit for? Alex Contact me on email at gmadsen at comcast dot net. |
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Larry Jaques wrote in
: snip B&D belt sander. This one is over 30 years old and has seen about 3 hours total work in that time. Every time I use it I cuss myself out four using it again because it invariably finds a way, when I'm least suspecting it, to TILT and dig in and mar every piece of face wood it touches, no matter how hard the wood and with 120 grit belts. sigh I thought that was what they were designed to do... Patriarch |
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Gino wrote:
I couldn't live without a Dremel. I even used it to remove the exhaust system from my 3/4 ton pickup. How many cutoff wheels did YOU go through? The Dremel almost made it onto my list, but it's a useful tool. Just not as useful as it sounds on the box. Sure, you can do all kinds of things with it if you're verrrrrrrrrrrrrrrry patient. Sometimes it is just the ticket, but I've never used probably half of the bits I have. Maybe 3/4. The wood cutting carving shaping stuff is especially useless. I can carve wood faster with a pair of tweezers. -- Michael McIntyre ---- Silvan Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621 http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/ http://rosegarden.sourceforge.net/tutorial/ |
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On Wed, 29 Dec 2004 21:09:48 -0500, Silvan wrote:
Gino wrote: I couldn't live without a Dremel. I even used it to remove the exhaust system from my 3/4 ton pickup. How many cutoff wheels did YOU go through? It saved me on a plumbing problem. Had to replace several toilet shutoff valves and the gorilla who installed the originals crimped the compression rings into the copper pipe so deep they wouldn't slide off, even with some knarley pliers. The problem was the new valves and old valves had different threads, so I couldn't use the old nut on the new valve. The nifty dremel cutoff wheel ground almost all the way through the compression ring and a little twist with a flat blade screwdriver popped it right off. Whew, success! - Doug -- To escape criticism--do nothing, say nothing, be nothing." (Elbert Hubbard) |
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Silvan wrote in
: Gino wrote: I couldn't live without a Dremel. I even used it to remove the exhaust system from my 3/4 ton pickup. How many cutoff wheels did YOU go through? For about the same price, I bought a DeWalt low angle grinder and a diamond cutting wheel. You can cut a lot of stuff with that rig, and very quickly. Dremel stuff is too light duty for my Binford tastes. Patriarch |
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On Thu, 30 Dec 2004 02:39:20 GMT, Patriarch
wrote: Silvan wrote in : Gino wrote: I couldn't live without a Dremel. I even used it to remove the exhaust system from my 3/4 ton pickup. How many cutoff wheels did YOU go through? For about the same price, I bought a DeWalt low angle grinder and a diamond cutting wheel. You can cut a lot of stuff with that rig, and very quickly. Dremel stuff is too light duty for my Binford tastes. But the Dremel is tiny. It was the only tool that I had that could do the job. |
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"Patriarch" wrote in message news:rTJAd.825879$8_6.65430@attbi_s04... Silvan wrote in : Gino wrote: I couldn't live without a Dremel. I even used it to remove the exhaust system from my 3/4 ton pickup. How many cutoff wheels did YOU go through? For about the same price, I bought a DeWalt low angle grinder and a diamond cutting wheel. You can cut a lot of stuff with that rig, and very quickly. Dremel stuff is too light duty for my Binford tastes. I had a Dremel go up in flames in my hands when I tried to use it as a dry wall cut out tool with a 1/8" down spiral bit.... Now that was interesting. ;-) John |
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On Wed 29 Dec 2004 12:33:04p, "the_tool_man" wrote
in oups.com: Funny, but if someone started a "What's the best tool you've ever bought" thread, I'd probably rank my PC biscuit joiner in the top 5 of my tools. It's great for edge-joining and the occasional face frame. Funny how that works. I bought an older Ryobi at a cabinet shop's going out of business sale for fifty bucks, worried that I was throwing money away on a tool I'd never use. And it's been real handy. Banded the edge of the workbench, my panelglueing got better, put shelves in a nightstand door. It makes aligning a lot easier and faster. I don't use it a LOT but it's sure not on my list of tools I wish I never bought. I guess that honor goes to the first "serious" tool I ever bought - a used direct-drive Craftsman table saw. At least, I *thought* it was serious when I bought it. Almost gave up on woodworking till I found out it might be that screaming, dancing, wobble-bladed monster. Still got the stand around here someplace. |
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"foggytown" wrote in message oups.com... Rotozip. Absolutely worthless.... Gave it to my SIL. He was thrilled at the time. I don't think he has ever used it. BUT... I bought a Ryobi laminate trimmer, (rebuilt one to boot) and use it all the time. I keep waiting for it to burn up, so I can buy a DeWalt laminate trimmer, but it refuses to cooperate. I chuck up 1/4 bits in it all the time, especially the round-over bits, and very occasionally, even use it to trim laminate. Observation 1: I have six routers. Bosch, Craftsman, and Skil. (I keep running across old Craftsman routers at auctions and end up picking them up for $10 and $15) As far as I can tell, they're from the early 80's. They work perfectly fine. One old boy told me that his wife bought him the router for Christmas in 1980, and he never used it. "I ain't no woodworker,". I also got a half-dozen high speed steel bits in the bargain. I used them once, and then I remembered why I love carbide so much. Observation 2: Over the years, I've been to hundreds of auctions and thousands of garage sales. (Other than C-Clamps), I have yet to find any decent woodworking clamps, other than some rusty old pipe clamps. I know they sell the hell out of those K-body, but the only thing I can figure is none of them every make it into an estate sale. James... |
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On 29 Dec 2004 08:02:38 -0800, "foggytown" wrote:
And now in a burst of refreshing honesty we're all going to admit to the most useless, waste-of-money, unnecessary, white elephant, "why the hell did I ever buy that" tool in our arsenal. Hands down, my Dremel tool is the most useless POS I've ever used! I've got all the bells and whistles for it, and it still isn't useful for a damn thing except for cutting round holes in ceramic tile with a rotozip bit (poorly, I might add) The sad thing is that this is the second one I've bought. The first one was a cordless model that I sold after a month to some poor sucker who thought it was a neat tool, and then I made the mistake of buying a corded version because I thought it might work better somehow. For me it's a B&D "electric file" - basically a needle-nose belt sander. It's a something that should be handy as hell but it's just too damned vicious. Touch it to a piece of wood and you have instant "**** - too much". I've never been able to get anything done with it. Next? Yeah, those suck for wood- but they sure are nice for deburring steel or gouging out hunks of your storm window tracks to wedge in an air-conditioner! FoggyTown "Cut to shape . . . pound to fit." Aut inveniam viam aut faciam |
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On 29 Dec 2004 08:02:38 -0800, "foggytown" wrote:
And now in a burst of refreshing honesty we're all going to admit to the most useless, waste-of-money, unnecessary, white elephant, "why the hell did I ever buy that" tool in our arsenal. For me it's a B&D "electric file" - basically a needle-nose belt sander. It's a something that should be handy as hell but it's just too damned vicious. Touch it to a piece of wood and you have instant "**** - too much". I've never been able to get anything done with it. Next? FoggyTown "Cut to shape . . . pound to fit." reconditioned Wagner "power (yeah, right) painter"... tried it for staining a redwood fence, it couldn't even do THAT! Gift: deluxe wood burning set... right! I'm left handed and never learned to double joint my wrist to write upside down... How the hell could I do wood burning, when even I can't read my handwriting? mac Please remove splinters before emailing |
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Patriarch wrote:
sale all the time. But I'm afraid of a good lathe. All the wood turners I know chase tree trimmers, fill their basements with half- turned bowls wrapped in plastic and newspaper, and upgrade to a better, multi-thousand dollar machine every couple of years. I already am trying to get one addiction under control. There are at least a dozen handtools here, which I haven't used yet. ;-) LOL! Those words could have come straight out of my mouth. -- Michael McIntyre ---- Silvan Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621 http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/ http://rosegarden.sourceforge.net/tutorial/ |
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Doug Winterburn wrote:
nifty dremel cutoff wheel ground almost all the way through the compression ring and a little twist with a flat blade screwdriver popped it right off. Whew, success! That's about the only practical thing I use mine for too. That and turning things that aren't into slotted screws. It's not useless, just mostly useless. -- Michael McIntyre ---- Silvan Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621 http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/ http://rosegarden.sourceforge.net/tutorial/ |
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Mark & Juanita wrote:
unload this piece of crap. A while later my wife asked him whether he had a chance to use it yet; he replied, "oh yeah, it works great!" uh-huh. That's funny. We've been passing around one of those stupid things for years. Dad bought it to do his house, then sold it, then somehow or other he got it back, then sold it again, then got it back, gave it away, got it back again. Then he used it to spray some really thick high tech coating stuff that couldn't be diluted. I got drafted to help with that one. He paid me, but not NEARLY enough to wrestle with that stupid piece of crap. I wound up finishing the job with hand rollers, and me crawling around like an idiot monkey in the rafters painting this stuff on all the spots I couldn't reach with the long roller (painting the underside of the roof decking), just trying to paint like a son of a bitch so I could get it finished before Dad got the stupid Wagner running again and caused us to spend even longer on the job. Wow, that sucked. Those things are USELESS. And hey, speaking of useless, SWMBO's vacuum cleaner is USELESS. I swear I can get the floor clean faster raking the carpet with my bare fingers and putting dog fur and other miscellany in the trash by hand. What a piece of crap. No wonder she never uses it. -- Michael McIntyre ---- Silvan Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621 http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/ http://rosegarden.sourceforge.net/tutorial/ |
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Mark & Juanita wrote: Funny thing is, that doesn't always happen. I had one of those Wagner paint drip squirters a number of years ago. I got it to paint the house trim -- the house was mostly brick with a bit of trim and some siding on the chimney and roof eaves. After I figured out that this beast was next to useless -- it either spit paint runs or one had to thin the paint to the consistency of water, but it was noisy -- I decided to get an air compressor and a real paint sprayer. One of my wife's co-workers heard about all the problems I had with this thing and offered to buy it; he was absolutel sure I just didn't know how to use it and that *he* could make it work properly. Not one to shrink away from recovering some of my shrunk costs, especially from an arrogant so-and-so, I jumped at the chance to unload this piece of crap. A while later my wife asked him whether he had a chance to use it yet; he replied, "oh yeah, it works great!" uh-huh. - - LRod Vanity. He just doesn't want to admit that he wasn't able to handle the thing any better than you were. FoggyTown |
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Gino
I couldn't live without a Dremel. I even used it to remove the exhaust system from my 3/4 ton pickup. Doug Winterburn It saved me on a plumbing problem. And another ditto for the Dremel. Working with old machinery you'll find that a machine hasn't been used for quite some time and for quite some time people will store them in "less optimum" places. God bless the Dremel people of Racine, Wis. UA100 |
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foggytown wrote:
And now in a burst of refreshing honesty we're all going to admit to the most useless, waste-of-money, unnecessary, white elephant, "why the hell did I ever buy that" tool in our arsenal. For me it's a B&D "electric file" - basically a needle-nose belt sander. It's a something that should be handy as hell but it's just too damned vicious. Touch it to a piece of wood and you have instant "**** - too much". I've never been able to get anything done with it. Next? FoggyTown "Cut to shape . . . pound to fit." For me my first "table saw" , ryobi direct drive junk, gave it to my son in law and got a decent one. (never really liked him anyway) Rick |
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"Silvan" wrote in message ... Gino wrote: I couldn't live without a Dremel. I even used it to remove the exhaust system from my 3/4 ton pickup. How many cutoff wheels did YOU go through? Get the larger (1 1/4") fiberglass reinforced cutoff wheels, they work great. -- Nahmie Those on the cutting edge bleed a lot. |
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"Dan" wrote in message .. . On Wed 29 Dec 2004 12:33:04p, "the_tool_man" wrote in oups.com: Funny, but if someone started a "What's the best tool you've ever bought" thread, I'd probably rank my PC biscuit joiner in the top 5 of my tools. It's great for edge-joining and the occasional face frame. Funny how that works. I bought an older Ryobi at a cabinet shop's going out of business sale for fifty bucks, worried that I was throwing money away on a tool I'd never use. And it's been real handy. Banded the edge of the workbench, my panelglueing got better, put shelves in a nightstand door. It makes aligning a lot easier and faster. I don't use it a LOT but it's sure not on my list of tools I wish I never bought. I guess that honor goes to the first "serious" tool I ever bought - a used direct-drive Craftsman table saw. At least, I *thought* it was serious when I bought it. Almost gave up on woodworking till I found out it might be that screaming, dancing, wobble-bladed monster. Still got the stand around here someplace. (1) I use my Freud biscuit joiner with fair regularity. Haven't tried the 135degree thingy with it that PC advertises, but looks like it should do just fine with the fixed 90deg. fence and the adjustable fence together. (2)Not all DD saws are screamers. My TS is an early 80's vintage Craftsman DD, but with an induction motor, not a universal(no, it's not one of the flex cable driven ones). I would love to replace it, but that's down the road a ways. With a decent blade & some blade stabilizers it does OK. The stabilizers were the best investment I made for it, because the original pressed steel ones were causing way too much runout. -- Nahmie Those on the cutting edge bleed a lot. |
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"Patriarch" wrote in message news:8hJAd.825740$8_6.382685@attbi_s04... "Norman D. Crow" wrote in : "Patriarch" wrote in message news:n_CAd.39764$k25.30196@attbi_s53... "foggytown" wrote in news:1104336158.089897.251330 @f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com: And now in a burst of refreshing honesty we're all going to admit to the most useless, waste-of-money, unnecessary, white elephant, "why the hell did I ever buy that" tool in our arsenal. The whole @#$%ing Shopsmith incident. I donwannatalkaboudit. Patriarch C'mon now, it does make a halfway useable lathe and drill press. I bought a good drill press for maybe $300. Good used lathes are for sale all the time. But I'm afraid of a good lathe. All the wood turners I know chase tree trimmers, fill their basements with half- turned bowls wrapped in plastic and newspaper, and upgrade to a better, multi-thousand dollar machine every couple of years. Now I'll 'fess up. My SS is an old(very) 10ER that was my stepfathers, new circa 1950, that was passed around the family a little bit, then I got it. Motor burned out, I replaced it with a freebie from SIL. Basically, I use it as DP, with an occasional foray into a little turning, and once in a while the 12" disc sander. Buy one? No way! -- Nahmie Those on the cutting edge bleed a lot. |
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Larry Jaques wrote:
On Wed, 29 Dec 2004 12:33:14 -0600, Duane Bozarth calmly ranted: .... OTOH, my wife uses hers a lot for the refinishing she does and likes it well... .... You must be rich, Duane. Media cost for those things has to be $50/day, minimum. Have you seen the new Searz circular thingy? It has a pair (or 3?) of 3/4" washer-sized sanding discs on it. I can't imagine how long they'd last while sanding, but I'll bet you a dollar to a donut that it's sub-1-minute. g .... Haven't seen it, no...we only have a small catalog store here which is mostly appliances, etc., so don't see most of that kind of thingy...thank goodness! Re media cost for the detail sander, I'm not really sure...shouldn't make it sound as though she's a full-time pro, particularly since we're now back on the farm she's busy enough w/ other stuff. She did resell stuff w/ a couple of friends in TN in a small shop and was pretty regular w/ it at the time...but, that was her thing so I never actually bought any media for it myself... I did use it while painting the house to get into the corners of some window sills where I had to do some repair/patching on...w/ the coarsest pad she had it took the epoxy filler down to a paintable surface fairly quickly w/ less effort than I was expending by hand although still had to finish the very corners w/ the sharp chisel trick... It's not indispensible nor wonderful, but does have some specialized uses imo... |
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