Any of you folks have one of these?

http://www.harborfreight.com/digital...l_s1021_c1015b

The bride jammed a drawer in the china cabinet and no amount of futzing and wiggling will get it open enough to free the jam. I need to drill in from the back and think a scope will be helpful in troubleshooting. Hopefully I can free this with two small holes -- one for the scope and one for the coat hanger.

Comments on this HF unit will be appreciated.

Larry

On Friday, March 6, 2015 at 12:10:03 PM UTC-5, Gramps' shop wrote:
Any of you folks have one of these?

http://www.harborfreight.com/digital...l_s1021_c1015b

The bride jammed a drawer in the china cabinet and no amount of futzing and wiggling will get it open enough to free the jam. I need to drill in from the back and think a scope will be helpful in troubleshooting. Hopefully I can free this with two small holes -- one for the scope and one for the coat hanger.

Comments on this HF unit will be appreciated.

Larry

I don't have one, but the first thing that came to mind was the need for a 3rd hole: for light. A quick check of the reviews at the HF site seems to support my concern. 3 out of the 5 comments include cons related to poor images bue to due lack of lighting. I guess you could say it's 3 out 4 since the 5th comment says that the user couldn't even get his running.

http://www.harborfreight.com/digital...l_s1021_c1015b

On 3/6/15 11:10 AM, Gramps' shop wrote:
Any of you folks have one of these?

http://www.harborfreight.com/digital...l_s1021_c1015b



The bride jammed a drawer in the china cabinet and no amount of
futzing and wiggling will get it open enough to free the jam. I
need to drill in from the back and think a scope will be helpful in
troubleshooting. Hopefully I can free this with two small holes --
one for the scope and one for the coat hanger.

Comments on this HF unit will be appreciated.

Larry


I got this one from Ridgid when it was on sale for 70 or 80 bucks...
http://www.homedepot.com/p/RIDGID-Micro-CA25-Inspection-Camera-40043/203258908

I can honestly say it has paid for itself several times over. It helped
me find an abandoned 220v electric line in the wall so I knew exactly
where to punch a hole to remove it. It also helped me find the source
of a clog in our main sewer line which was a nail that had wedged itself
across the pipe. The camera costs less than a plumber would've charged
just to show up to the house.

Someone else mentioned needing a light with the HF camera. That would
kill the deal for me. The Ridgid has LEDs in the camera head and no
external light source is needed.

The Ridgid also has a hook and magnet that attach to the camera head for
retrieving items using the camera snake itself. So you don't need to
fish another wire in through a second hole. I think the HF model has
that too, but you better make sure it has integrated lights.


--

-MIKE-

"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
--
http://mikedrums.com

---remove "DOT" ^^^^ to reply

Gramps' shop wrote:
Any of you folks have one of these?

http://www.harborfreight.com/digital...l_s1021_c1015b

The bride jammed a drawer in the china cabinet and no amount of
futzing and wiggling will get it open enough to free the jam. I need
to drill in from the back and think a scope will be helpful in
troubleshooting. Hopefully I can free this with two small holes --
one for the scope and one for the coat hanger.

Comments on this HF unit will be appreciated.


Hey Larry - have you tried a coat hanger or any other sort of device to move
things around from the front of the drawer? This is not an uncommon
occurance in any type of pull out drawer and does not require the extreme
effort of boring holes in from the back and the use of inspection cameras.

--

-Mike-

On Friday, March 6, 2015 at 12:53:13 PM UTC-5, -MIKE- wrote:
On 3/6/15 11:10 AM, Gramps' shop wrote:
Any of you folks have one of these?

http://www.harborfreight.com/digital...l_s1021_c1015b



The bride jammed a drawer in the china cabinet and no amount of
futzing and wiggling will get it open enough to free the jam. I
need to drill in from the back and think a scope will be helpful in
troubleshooting. Hopefully I can free this with two small holes --
one for the scope and one for the coat hanger.

Comments on this HF unit will be appreciated.

Larry


I got this one from Ridgid when it was on sale for 70 or 80 bucks...
http://www.homedepot.com/p/RIDGID-Micro-CA25-Inspection-Camera-40043/203258908

I can honestly say it has paid for itself several times over. It helped
me find an abandoned 220v electric line in the wall so I knew exactly
where to punch a hole to remove it. It also helped me find the source
of a clog in our main sewer line which was a nail that had wedged itself
across the pipe. The camera costs less than a plumber would've charged
just to show up to the house.

Someone else mentioned needing a light with the HF camera. That would
kill the deal for me. The Ridgid has LEDs in the camera head and no
external light source is needed.

I didn't actually say (or mean to imply) you *needed* an external light with the HF camera. I said that I was wondering about needing a 3rd hole for a light - before I even checked the HF site. Then I checked the HF reviews at the link offered by Gramps and read that while the HF device does indeed have LED's in the camera head, they don't seem to be adequate in really dark spaces.

In other words, I didn't mean to imply that the HF device has *no* LED's like some cameras do. Now, I did use the words "lack of lighting" in my response, but I meant "lack of *adequate* lighting", not no lighting at all.

I recognize the reason for the misunderstanding.


The Ridgid also has a hook and magnet that attach to the camera head for
retrieving items using the camera snake itself. So you don't need to
fish another wire in through a second hole. I think the HF model has
that too, but you better make sure it has integrated lights.


It does have integrated LED's, they just may not be adequate for the application - per the reviews.

On 3/6/2015 12:37 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Friday, March 6, 2015 at 12:10:03 PM UTC-5, Gramps' shop wrote:
Any of you folks have one of these?

http://www.harborfreight.com/digital...l_s1021_c1015b

The bride jammed a drawer in the china cabinet and no amount of futzing and wiggling will get it open enough to free the jam. I need to drill in from the back and think a scope will be helpful in troubleshooting. Hopefully I can free this with two small holes -- one for the scope and one for the coat hanger.

Comments on this HF unit will be appreciated.

Larry

I don't have one, but the first thing that came to mind was the need for a 3rd hole: for light. A quick check of the reviews at the HF site seems to support my concern. 3 out of the 5 comments include cons related to poor images bue to due lack of lighting. I guess you could say it's 3 out 4 since the 5th comment says that the user couldn't even get his running.

http://www.harborfreight.com/digital...l_s1021_c1015b

Look at it another way. It is a great toy, and since your bride is the
one who created the problem she should not object for the necessary
"Tools" to correct the problem.

On 3/6/15 12:39 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Friday, March 6, 2015 at 12:53:13 PM UTC-5, -MIKE- wrote:
On 3/6/15 11:10 AM, Gramps' shop wrote:
Any of you folks have one of these?

http://www.harborfreight.com/digital...l_s1021_c1015b





The bride jammed a drawer in the china cabinet and no amount of
futzing and wiggling will get it open enough to free the jam. I
need to drill in from the back and think a scope will be helpful
in troubleshooting. Hopefully I can free this with two small
holes -- one for the scope and one for the coat hanger.

Comments on this HF unit will be appreciated.

Larry


I got this one from Ridgid when it was on sale for 70 or 80
bucks...
http://www.homedepot.com/p/RIDGID-Micro-CA25-Inspection-Camera-40043/203258908



I can honestly say it has paid for itself several times over. It helped
me find an abandoned 220v electric line in the wall so I knew
exactly where to punch a hole to remove it. It also helped me find
the source of a clog in our main sewer line which was a nail that
had wedged itself across the pipe. The camera costs less than a
plumber would've charged just to show up to the house.

Someone else mentioned needing a light with the HF camera. That
would kill the deal for me. The Ridgid has LEDs in the camera head
and no external light source is needed.

I didn't actually say (or mean to imply) you *needed* an external
light with the HF camera. I said that I was wondering about needing a
3rd hole for a light - before I even checked the HF site. Then I
checked the HF reviews at the link offered by Gramps and read that
while the HF device does indeed have LED's in the camera head, they
don't seem to be adequate in really dark spaces.

In other words, I didn't mean to imply that the HF device has *no*
LED's like some cameras do. Now, I did use the words "lack of
lighting" in my response, but I meant "lack of *adequate* lighting",
not no lighting at all.

I recognize the reason for the misunderstanding.


The Ridgid also has a hook and magnet that attach to the camera
head for retrieving items using the camera snake itself. So you
don't need to fish another wire in through a second hole. I think
the HF model has that too, but you better make sure it has
integrated lights.


It does have integrated LED's, they just may not be adequate for the
application - per the reviews.


Another plus for the Ridgid model is that the lights have adjustable
brightness.
Sometimes you need to turn them down if there is something reflective in
its path that will cause glare. Other times, obviously, you'd like more
light.

The one thing that intrigued me about the HF model was that the snake
was removable from the base unit. This made me think there might be
longer snakes available to hook on for longer reaches. I don't know if
that's the case, although I doubt it.


--

-MIKE-

"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
--
http://mikedrums.com

---remove "DOT" ^^^^ to reply

On Friday, March 6, 2015 at 2:31:09 PM UTC-5, -MIKE- wrote:
On 3/6/15 12:39 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Friday, March 6, 2015 at 12:53:13 PM UTC-5, -MIKE- wrote:
On 3/6/15 11:10 AM, Gramps' shop wrote:
Any of you folks have one of these?

http://www.harborfreight.com/digital...l_s1021_c1015b





The bride jammed a drawer in the china cabinet and no amount of
futzing and wiggling will get it open enough to free the jam. I
need to drill in from the back and think a scope will be helpful
in troubleshooting. Hopefully I can free this with two small
holes -- one for the scope and one for the coat hanger.

Comments on this HF unit will be appreciated.

Larry


I got this one from Ridgid when it was on sale for 70 or 80
bucks...
http://www.homedepot.com/p/RIDGID-Micro-CA25-Inspection-Camera-40043/203258908



I can honestly say it has paid for itself several times over. It helped
me find an abandoned 220v electric line in the wall so I knew
exactly where to punch a hole to remove it. It also helped me find
the source of a clog in our main sewer line which was a nail that
had wedged itself across the pipe. The camera costs less than a
plumber would've charged just to show up to the house.

Someone else mentioned needing a light with the HF camera. That
would kill the deal for me. The Ridgid has LEDs in the camera head
and no external light source is needed.

I didn't actually say (or mean to imply) you *needed* an external
light with the HF camera. I said that I was wondering about needing a
3rd hole for a light - before I even checked the HF site. Then I
checked the HF reviews at the link offered by Gramps and read that
while the HF device does indeed have LED's in the camera head, they
don't seem to be adequate in really dark spaces.

In other words, I didn't mean to imply that the HF device has *no*
LED's like some cameras do. Now, I did use the words "lack of
lighting" in my response, but I meant "lack of *adequate* lighting",
not no lighting at all.

I recognize the reason for the misunderstanding.


The Ridgid also has a hook and magnet that attach to the camera
head for retrieving items using the camera snake itself. So you
don't need to fish another wire in through a second hole. I think
the HF model has that too, but you better make sure it has
integrated lights.


It does have integrated LED's, they just may not be adequate for the
application - per the reviews.


Another plus for the Ridgid model is that the lights have adjustable
brightness.
Sometimes you need to turn them down if there is something reflective in
its path that will cause glare. Other times, obviously, you'd like more
light.

The one thing that intrigued me about the HF model was that the snake
was removable from the base unit. This made me think there might be
longer snakes available to hook on for longer reaches. I don't know if
that's the case, although I doubt it.



And therein lies both the beauty and the quandary of HF tools: $69 for the low-end HF tool, currently required for a one-off application vs. $99 for the probably better Rigid tool.

Will Gramps ever use it again, making the extra features worth the $30/43% higher price, or will he just get the darn drawer open and stick the camera on a shelf to collect dust?

Damn you, Harbor Freight, why must you tempt us so?

On 3/6/15 1:51 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Friday, March 6, 2015 at 2:31:09 PM UTC-5, -MIKE- wrote:
On 3/6/15 12:39 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Friday, March 6, 2015 at 12:53:13 PM UTC-5, -MIKE- wrote:
On 3/6/15 11:10 AM, Gramps' shop wrote:
Any of you folks have one of these?

http://www.harborfreight.com/digital...l_s1021_c1015b








The bride jammed a drawer in the china cabinet and no amount of
futzing and wiggling will get it open enough to free the
jam. I need to drill in from the back and think a scope will
be helpful in troubleshooting. Hopefully I can free this
with two small holes -- one for the scope and one for the
coat hanger.

Comments on this HF unit will be appreciated.

Larry


I got this one from Ridgid when it was on sale for 70 or 80
bucks...
http://www.homedepot.com/p/RIDGID-Micro-CA25-Inspection-Camera-40043/203258908






I can honestly say it has paid for itself several times over. It helped
me find an abandoned 220v electric line in the wall so I knew
exactly where to punch a hole to remove it. It also helped me
find the source of a clog in our main sewer line which was a
nail that had wedged itself across the pipe. The camera costs
less than a plumber would've charged just to show up to the
house.

Someone else mentioned needing a light with the HF camera. That
would kill the deal for me. The Ridgid has LEDs in the camera
head and no external light source is needed.

I didn't actually say (or mean to imply) you *needed* an external
light with the HF camera. I said that I was wondering about
needing a 3rd hole for a light - before I even checked the HF
site. Then I checked the HF reviews at the link offered by Gramps
and read that while the HF device does indeed have LED's in the
camera head, they don't seem to be adequate in really dark
spaces.

In other words, I didn't mean to imply that the HF device has
*no* LED's like some cameras do. Now, I did use the words "lack
of lighting" in my response, but I meant "lack of *adequate*
lighting", not no lighting at all.

I recognize the reason for the misunderstanding.


The Ridgid also has a hook and magnet that attach to the camera
head for retrieving items using the camera snake itself. So you
don't need to fish another wire in through a second hole. I
think the HF model has that too, but you better make sure it
has integrated lights.


It does have integrated LED's, they just may not be adequate for
the application - per the reviews.


Another plus for the Ridgid model is that the lights have
adjustable brightness. Sometimes you need to turn them down if
there is something reflective in its path that will cause glare.
Other times, obviously, you'd like more light.

The one thing that intrigued me about the HF model was that the
snake was removable from the base unit. This made me think there
might be longer snakes available to hook on for longer reaches. I
don't know if that's the case, although I doubt it.



And therein lies both the beauty and the quandary of HF tools: $69
for the low-end HF tool, currently required for a one-off
application vs. $99 for the probably better Rigid tool.

Will Gramps ever use it again, making the extra features worth the
$30/43% higher price, or will he just get the darn drawer open and
stick the camera on a shelf to collect dust?

Damn you, Harbor Freight, why must you tempt us so?


I just looked at the manual for the HF model and it shows dimming
buttons for the light.
I have half a mind to go buy the thing and do a side-by-side road test
of them both and put it on youtube.


--

-MIKE-

"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
--
http://mikedrums.com

---remove "DOT" ^^^^ to reply

On Friday, March 6, 2015 at 2:58:08 PM UTC-5, -MIKE- wrote:
On 3/6/15 1:51 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Friday, March 6, 2015 at 2:31:09 PM UTC-5, -MIKE- wrote:
On 3/6/15 12:39 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Friday, March 6, 2015 at 12:53:13 PM UTC-5, -MIKE- wrote:
On 3/6/15 11:10 AM, Gramps' shop wrote:
Any of you folks have one of these?

http://www.harborfreight.com/digital...l_s1021_c1015b








The bride jammed a drawer in the china cabinet and no amount of
futzing and wiggling will get it open enough to free the
jam. I need to drill in from the back and think a scope will
be helpful in troubleshooting. Hopefully I can free this
with two small holes -- one for the scope and one for the
coat hanger.

Comments on this HF unit will be appreciated.

Larry


I got this one from Ridgid when it was on sale for 70 or 80
bucks...
http://www.homedepot.com/p/RIDGID-Micro-CA25-Inspection-Camera-40043/203258908






I can honestly say it has paid for itself several times over. It helped
me find an abandoned 220v electric line in the wall so I knew
exactly where to punch a hole to remove it. It also helped me
find the source of a clog in our main sewer line which was a
nail that had wedged itself across the pipe. The camera costs
less than a plumber would've charged just to show up to the
house.

Someone else mentioned needing a light with the HF camera. That
would kill the deal for me. The Ridgid has LEDs in the camera
head and no external light source is needed.

I didn't actually say (or mean to imply) you *needed* an external
light with the HF camera. I said that I was wondering about
needing a 3rd hole for a light - before I even checked the HF
site. Then I checked the HF reviews at the link offered by Gramps
and read that while the HF device does indeed have LED's in the
camera head, they don't seem to be adequate in really dark
spaces.

In other words, I didn't mean to imply that the HF device has
*no* LED's like some cameras do. Now, I did use the words "lack
of lighting" in my response, but I meant "lack of *adequate*
lighting", not no lighting at all.

I recognize the reason for the misunderstanding.


The Ridgid also has a hook and magnet that attach to the camera
head for retrieving items using the camera snake itself. So you
don't need to fish another wire in through a second hole. I
think the HF model has that too, but you better make sure it
has integrated lights.


It does have integrated LED's, they just may not be adequate for
the application - per the reviews.


Another plus for the Ridgid model is that the lights have
adjustable brightness. Sometimes you need to turn them down if
there is something reflective in its path that will cause glare.
Other times, obviously, you'd like more light.

The one thing that intrigued me about the HF model was that the
snake was removable from the base unit. This made me think there
might be longer snakes available to hook on for longer reaches. I
don't know if that's the case, although I doubt it.



And therein lies both the beauty and the quandary of HF tools: $69
for the low-end HF tool, currently required for a one-off
application vs. $99 for the probably better Rigid tool.

Will Gramps ever use it again, making the extra features worth the
$30/43% higher price, or will he just get the darn drawer open and
stick the camera on a shelf to collect dust?

Damn you, Harbor Freight, why must you tempt us so?


I just looked at the manual for the HF model and it shows dimming
buttons for the light.
I have half a mind to go buy the thing and do a side-by-side road test
of them both and put it on youtube.



Hmmmm, dimmable lights on a unit where the reviews say the lights on the unit aren't bright enough.

"Hey, it's dark in here, turn down the lights!" ;-)

If one was of the mind to take advantage the liberal return policies of just about all stores these days, one might consider buying the best of the best, using it once and then taking it back.

On Fri, 6 Mar 2015 09:10:01 -0800 (PST), "Gramps' shop"
wrote:

Any of you folks have one of these?

http://www.harborfreight.com/digital...l_s1021_c1015b

The bride jammed a drawer in the china cabinet and no amount of futzing and wiggling will get it open enough to free the jam. I need to drill in from the back and think a scope will be helpful in troubleshooting. Hopefully I can free this with two small holes -- one for the scope and one for the coat hanger.

Comments on this HF unit will be appreciated.

Larry

I have no experience with the item you're considering, but if you DO
decide to buy it, you can save $14:
http://slickdeals.net/forums/attachm...8&d=1420968909

Might as well pick up one of these wile you're the

http://slickdeals.net/forums/attachm...2&d=1422088177

http://slickdeals.net/forums/attachm...0&d=1419332748

On Friday, March 6, 2015 at 3:17:59 PM UTC-5, Spalted Walt wrote:
On Fri, 6 Mar 2015 09:10:01 -0800 (PST), "Gramps' shop"
wrote:

Any of you folks have one of these?

http://www.harborfreight.com/digital...l_s1021_c1015b

The bride jammed a drawer in the china cabinet and no amount of futzing and wiggling will get it open enough to free the jam. I need to drill in from the back and think a scope will be helpful in troubleshooting. Hopefully I can free this with two small holes -- one for the scope and one for the coat hanger.

Comments on this HF unit will be appreciated.

Larry

I have no experience with the item you're considering, but if you DO
decide to buy it, you can save $14:
http://slickdeals.net/forums/attachm...8&d=1420968909

Might as well pick up one of these wile you're the

http://slickdeals.net/forums/attachm...2&d=1422088177

http://slickdeals.net/forums/attachm...0&d=1419332748

We have a quite a number of the free HF flashlights lying around the house.

We like to keep one near the thermostat so we can read/set it in the dark, there's usually one by the coffee maker because the LED clock is hard to read while setting, etc. Problem is, I keep grabbing them for other uses, forgetting to put them back, and then SWMBO gets ****ed at me.

Just before Christmas I picked up another free one, took it out of the package, used White-Out to "engrave" SWMBO's name on the flashlight and put it back in the package. I then wrapped it in a fancy box, added a bow and put it under the tree.

SWMBO now keeps it on her desk and I make sure I never touch it. She always has a flashlight, even when I forget to put back the other ones. She still reminds when I forget to put one back, but at least she always knows where she can find one if needed.

I'm such a giver.

"Gramps' shop" wrote in message
...
Any of you folks have one of these?

http://www.harborfreight.com/digital...l_s1021_c1015b

The bride jammed a drawer in the china cabinet and no amount of futzing and
wiggling will get it open enough to free the jam. I need to drill in from
the back and think a scope will be helpful in troubleshooting. Hopefully I
can free this with two small holes -- one for the scope and one for the coat
hanger.

Comments on this HF unit will be appreciated.

Larry

OK. You're going to hate me for this because you may not need another toy,
er, tool. But have you tried a slim jim to free that soup spoon holding the
drawer shut?

Steve

DerbyDad03 wrote in
:


We have a quite a number of the free HF flashlights lying around the
house.

We like to keep one near the thermostat so we can read/set it in the
dark, there's usually one by the coffee maker because the LED clock is
hard to read while setting, etc. Problem is, I keep grabbing them for
other uses, forgetting to put them back, and then SWMBO gets ****ed at
me.

Just before Christmas I picked up another free one, took it out of the
package, used White-Out to "engrave" SWMBO's name on the flashlight
and put it back in the package. I then wrapped it in a fancy box,
added a bow and put it under the tree.

SWMBO now keeps it on her desk and I make sure I never touch it. She
always has a flashlight, even when I forget to put back the other
ones. She still reminds when I forget to put one back, but at least
she always knows where she can find one if needed.

I'm such a giver.


I downloaded the flashlight app for my phone. For Windows Phone, it's
one of the most useful apps because it doesn't just give you a
flashlight, but a battery meter on the lock screen. Sure has come in
handy.

Puckdropper
--
Make it to fit, don't make it fit.

On 3/6/15 4:10 PM, Dave Balderstone wrote:
In article ,
Gramps' shop wrote:

Any of you folks have one of these?


http://www.harborfreight.com/digital...l?utm_medium=e
mail&utm_campaign=1015b&utm_source=1021&cid=mEmail _s1021_c1015b

The bride jammed a drawer in the china cabinet and no amount of futzing and
wiggling will get it open enough to free the jam. I need to drill in from
the back and think a scope will be helpful in troubleshooting. Hopefully I
can free this with two small holes -- one for the scope and one for the coat
hanger.

Comments on this HF unit will be appreciated.

Larry

I have the General scope that feeds wifi to a smartphone or tablet. I'm
very happy with it.

http://www.leevalley.com/en/wood/page.aspx?p=72613&cat=1,43456

djb


NICE!! I really could've use that wifi feature.


--

-MIKE-

"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
--
http://mikedrums.com

---remove "DOT" ^^^^ to reply

On 3/6/2015 5:10 PM, Dave Balderstone wrote:
In article ,
Gramps' shop wrote:

Any of you folks have one of these?


http://www.harborfreight.com/digital...l?utm_medium=e
mail&utm_campaign=1015b&utm_source=1021&cid=mEmail _s1021_c1015b

The bride jammed a drawer in the china cabinet and no amount of futzing and
wiggling will get it open enough to free the jam. I need to drill in from
the back and think a scope will be helpful in troubleshooting. Hopefully I
can free this with two small holes -- one for the scope and one for the coat
hanger.

Comments on this HF unit will be appreciated.

Larry

I have the General scope that feeds wifi to a smartphone or tablet. I'm
very happy with it.

http://www.leevalley.com/en/wood/page.aspx?p=72613&cat=1,43456

djb

I like that and I ordered it.

Using it on the iPhone/iPad is what sold me the most.

On 3/6/2015 5:10 PM, Dave Balderstone wrote:


I have the General scope that feeds wifi to a smartphone or tablet. I'm
very happy with it.

http://www.leevalley.com/en/wood/page.aspx?p=72613&cat=1,43456

djb

BTW, what's the app called?

On Friday, March 6, 2015 at 5:11:50 PM UTC-5, Puckdropper at dot wrote:
DerbyDad03 wrote in
:


We have a quite a number of the free HF flashlights lying around the
house.

We like to keep one near the thermostat so we can read/set it in the
dark, there's usually one by the coffee maker because the LED clock is
hard to read while setting, etc. Problem is, I keep grabbing them for
other uses, forgetting to put them back, and then SWMBO gets ****ed at
me.

Just before Christmas I picked up another free one, took it out of the
package, used White-Out to "engrave" SWMBO's name on the flashlight
and put it back in the package. I then wrapped it in a fancy box,
added a bow and put it under the tree.

SWMBO now keeps it on her desk and I make sure I never touch it. She
always has a flashlight, even when I forget to put back the other
ones. She still reminds when I forget to put one back, but at least
she always knows where she can find one if needed.

I'm such a giver.


I downloaded the flashlight app for my phone. For Windows Phone, it's
one of the most useful apps because it doesn't just give you a
flashlight, but a battery meter on the lock screen. Sure has come in
handy.


I've had flashlight apps in my phones for as long as they gave been available, and yes they are very convenient. However, having small flashlights strategically placed where required is even more convenient.

Even if I have my phone with me when setting the stat or making coffee (which is not always the case) a single button to turn on a real flashlight is easier than the minimum 4 steps it takes to turn on the phone's flashlight.

I don't even have to look at the flashlight to turn it on, not so with the app.

On 06 Mar 2015 22:11:46 GMT, Puckdropper puckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com wrote:

I downloaded the flashlight app for my phone. For Windows Phone, it's
one of the most useful apps because it doesn't just give you a
flashlight, but a battery meter on the lock screen. Sure has come in
handy.

Puckdropper

Be very careful with those flashlight apps!

http://www.youtube.com/embed/Q8xz8xKEFvU

http://www.snoopwall.com/threat-reports-10-01-2014/

https://blogs.mcafee.com/consumer/an...pp-steals-data

On Friday, March 6, 2015 at 11:54:48 AM UTC-6, Mike Marlow wrote:
Gramps' shop wrote:
Any of you folks have one of these?

http://www.harborfreight.com/digital...l_s1021_c1015b

The bride jammed a drawer in the china cabinet and no amount of
futzing and wiggling will get it open enough to free the jam. I need
to drill in from the back and think a scope will be helpful in
troubleshooting. Hopefully I can free this with two small holes --
one for the scope and one for the coat hanger.

Comments on this HF unit will be appreciated.


Hey Larry - have you tried a coat hanger or any other sort of device to move
things around from the front of the drawer? This is not an uncommon
occurance in any type of pull out drawer and does not require the extreme
effort of boring holes in from the back and the use of inspection cameras..

--

-Mike-


Hi, Mike ...

Can't get past the lip of the drawer and there are dust barriers between each drawer. I've wiggled and jiggled and cursed. The only thing I haven't tried is tipping it upside down. The only way in is to drill a hole through the back casing and then a hole through the back of the drawer. Nutz!

Larry

On Friday, March 6, 2015 at 10:39:36 PM UTC-5, Gramps' shop wrote:
On Friday, March 6, 2015 at 11:54:48 AM UTC-6, Mike Marlow wrote:
Gramps' shop wrote:
Any of you folks have one of these?

http://www.harborfreight.com/digital...l_s1021_c1015b

The bride jammed a drawer in the china cabinet and no amount of
futzing and wiggling will get it open enough to free the jam. I need
to drill in from the back and think a scope will be helpful in
troubleshooting. Hopefully I can free this with two small holes --
one for the scope and one for the coat hanger.

Comments on this HF unit will be appreciated.


Hey Larry - have you tried a coat hanger or any other sort of device to move
things around from the front of the drawer? This is not an uncommon
occurance in any type of pull out drawer and does not require the extreme
effort of boring holes in from the back and the use of inspection cameras.

--

-Mike-


Hi, Mike ...

Can't get past the lip of the drawer and there are dust barriers between each drawer. I've wiggled and jiggled and cursed. The only thing I haven't tried is tipping it upside down. The only way in is to drill a hole through the back casing and then a hole through the back of the drawer. Nutz!

Larry

Why not empty the rest of the cabinet and then tilt it, shake it, jostle it to move the stuff in the drawer around?

Might want to get the HD system to see a thin jam item. Have a demo -
see if that can be done. Doubt it but it is maybe important.
Likely a slice of vernier that has split and providing the jam.

Martin

On 3/6/2015 11:10 AM, Gramps' shop wrote:
Any of you folks have one of these?

http://www.harborfreight.com/digital...l_s1021_c1015b

The bride jammed a drawer in the china cabinet and no amount of futzing and wiggling will get it open enough to free the jam. I need to drill in from the back and think a scope will be helpful in troubleshooting. Hopefully I can free this with two small holes -- one for the scope and one for the coat hanger.

Comments on this HF unit will be appreciated.

Larry

DerbyDad03 wrote in
:


I've had flashlight apps in my phones for as long as they gave been
available, and yes they are very convenient. However, having small
flashlights strategically placed where required is even more
convenient.

Even if I have my phone with me when setting the stat or making coffee
(which is not always the case) a single button to turn on a real
flashlight is easier than the minimum 4 steps it takes to turn on the
phone's flashlight.

I don't even have to look at the flashlight to turn it on, not so with
the app.

That reminds me of something else...

I had a flashlight next to the back door of the garage. Kinda nice to
get in and get something, but rather inconvenient as well, especially if
I was just passing through on a cold night.

I saw a post on alt.home.repair (I believe it was by DadiOH, if it was,
thanks!) that suggested installing a motion detector light inside. Now I
open the back door, step in and the motion light turns on. I can then
either quickly get what I want, or easily walk to the main door and turn
on the lights. With the Dusk-to-dawn sensor, it doesn't turn back on
after the lights are on.

Saved me a lot of trouble pulling wire to both doors, adding a light
somewhere or rewiring the garage lights to run off a 3-way switch.

Puckdropper
--
Make it to fit, don't make it fit.

Spalted Walt wrote in
:


Be very careful with those flashlight apps!

http://www.youtube.com/embed/Q8xz8xKEFvU

http://www.snoopwall.com/threat-reports-10-01-2014/

https://blogs.mcafee.com/consumer/an...pp-steals-data



I checked permissions before I installed it. The only permission
requested was use of the camera (which is required to access the flash).

It is good to be wary and always check the requested permissions before
you install. Avoid any app that asks for permissions that can't be
explained (why would a flashlight app need the "phone dialer"*
permission?).

*"Phone dialer" usually indicates the app has ads. One ad network
Windows Phone apps use requires this permission.

Puckdropper
--
Make it to fit, don't make it fit.

On 3/6/2015 11:53 AM, Mike Marlow wrote:
Gramps' shop wrote:
Any of you folks have one of these?

http://www.harborfreight.com/digital...l_s1021_c1015b

The bride jammed a drawer in the china cabinet and no amount of
futzing and wiggling will get it open enough to free the jam. I need
to drill in from the back and think a scope will be helpful in
troubleshooting. Hopefully I can free this with two small holes --
one for the scope and one for the coat hanger.

Comments on this HF unit will be appreciated.


Hey Larry - have you tried a coat hanger or any other sort of device to move
things around from the front of the drawer? This is not an uncommon
occurance in any type of pull out drawer and does not require the extreme
effort of boring holes in from the back and the use of inspection cameras.

Reading this, I think that I might be tempted to look around and see if
I could locate my 18" stainless steel flat ruler and try sliding it side
to side as I pulled it slowly forward...

Unquestionably Confused wrote:
On 3/6/2015 11:53 AM, Mike Marlow wrote:
Gramps' shop wrote:
Any of you folks have one of these?

http://www.harborfreight.com/digital...l_s1021_c1015b

The bride jammed a drawer in the china cabinet and no amount of
futzing and wiggling will get it open enough to free the jam. I
need to drill in from the back and think a scope will be helpful in
troubleshooting. Hopefully I can free this with two small holes --
one for the scope and one for the coat hanger.

Comments on this HF unit will be appreciated.


Hey Larry - have you tried a coat hanger or any other sort of device
to move things around from the front of the drawer? This is not an
uncommon occurance in any type of pull out drawer and does not
require the extreme effort of boring holes in from the back and the
use of inspection cameras.

Reading this, I think that I might be tempted to look around and see
if I could locate my 18" stainless steel flat ruler and try sliding
it side to side as I pulled it slowly forward...

Might work - if you can open the drawer just a little bit.

--

-Mike-

On 3/7/2015 6:59 AM, Mike Marlow wrote:
Unquestionably Confused wrote:

[snip]


Reading this, I think that I might be tempted to look around and see
if I could locate my 18" stainless steel flat ruler and try sliding
it side to side as I pulled it slowly forward...

Might work - if you can open the drawer just a little bit.

After I posted that the OP said he had tried similar with a coat hanger
and abandoned the effort. Still, there's gotta be enough of a reveal on
that drawer front to get something like a thin knife blade into it. The
ruler made the most sense to me simply because I have one sitting in the
computer desk, it's strong and thinner than a knife blade, and, more
importantly, I've solved this very problem with it on numerous
occasions. The OP isn't the only one who harbors a SWMBO who can
overload a drawerg.

Actually, you'd want the drawer fully closed when you started so that
whatever is jamming it is free to move (well, as freely as possible) in
the vertical plane. If the drawer is out a bit and it's already jammed,
it just makes it more difficult.

On Saturday, March 7, 2015 at 12:24:36 AM UTC-5, Puckdropper at dot wrote:
DerbyDad03 wrote in
:


I've had flashlight apps in my phones for as long as they gave been
available, and yes they are very convenient. However, having small
flashlights strategically placed where required is even more
convenient.

Even if I have my phone with me when setting the stat or making coffee
(which is not always the case) a single button to turn on a real
flashlight is easier than the minimum 4 steps it takes to turn on the
phone's flashlight.

I don't even have to look at the flashlight to turn it on, not so with
the app.

That reminds me of something else...

I had a flashlight next to the back door of the garage. Kinda nice to
get in and get something, but rather inconvenient as well, especially if
I was just passing through on a cold night.

I saw a post on alt.home.repair (I believe it was by DadiOH, if it was,
thanks!) that suggested installing a motion detector light inside. Now I
open the back door, step in and the motion light turns on. I can then
either quickly get what I want, or easily walk to the main door and turn
on the lights. With the Dusk-to-dawn sensor, it doesn't turn back on
after the lights are on.

Saved me a lot of trouble pulling wire to both doors, adding a light
somewhere or rewiring the garage lights to run off a 3-way switch.

Puckdropper
--
Make it to fit, don't make it fit.



On Saturday, March 7, 2015 at 12:24:36 AM UTC-5, Puckdropper at dot wrote:
DerbyDad03 wrote in
:


I've had flashlight apps in my phones for as long as they gave been
available, and yes they are very convenient. However, having small
flashlights strategically placed where required is even more
convenient.

Even if I have my phone with me when setting the stat or making coffee
(which is not always the case) a single button to turn on a real
flashlight is easier than the minimum 4 steps it takes to turn on the
phone's flashlight.

I don't even have to look at the flashlight to turn it on, not so with
the app.

That reminds me of something else...

I had a flashlight next to the back door of the garage. Kinda nice to
get in and get something, but rather inconvenient as well, especially if
I was just passing through on a cold night.

I saw a post on alt.home.repair (I believe it was by DadiOH, if it was,
thanks!) that suggested installing a motion detector light inside. Now I
open the back door, step in and the motion light turns on. I can then
either quickly get what I want, or easily walk to the main door and turn
on the lights. With the Dusk-to-dawn sensor, it doesn't turn back on
after the lights are on.

Saved me a lot of trouble pulling wire to both doors, adding a light
somewhere or rewiring the garage lights to run off a 3-way switch.

Puckdropper
--
Make it to fit, don't make it fit.

My basement shop has a door to the backyard. I have an X10 motion sensor next to the door door that turns on a light in my main basement. Similar to your situation, it saved me from having to rewired the switch run for the lights to be a 3-way. While adding a 3-way is typically not all that difficult, the basement lights are part of an Edison circuit and the triple gang switch box in the kitchen is already a mess. A single fixture on a motion detector is all I need for just enough light to be safe.

Unquestionably Confused wrote:

After I posted that the OP said he had tried similar with a coat
hanger and abandoned the effort. Still, there's gotta be enough of a
reveal on that drawer front to get something like a thin knife blade
into it. The ruler made the most sense to me simply because I have
one sitting in the computer desk, it's strong and thinner than a
knife blade, and, more importantly, I've solved this very problem
with it on numerous occasions. The OP isn't the only one who harbors
a SWMBO who can overload a drawerg.


It's a common occurance in this household...

--

-Mike-

On 03/07/2015 06:28 AM, Mike Marlow wrote:
Unquestionably Confused wrote:

After I posted that the OP said he had tried similar with a coat
hanger and abandoned the effort. Still, there's gotta be enough of a
reveal on that drawer front to get something like a thin knife blade
into it. The ruler made the most sense to me simply because I have
one sitting in the computer desk, it's strong and thinner than a
knife blade, and, more importantly, I've solved this very problem
with it on numerous occasions. The OP isn't the only one who harbors
a SWMBO who can overload a drawerg.


It's a common occurance in this household...


Gives me a chance to practice my golf language.


--
"Socialism is a philosophy of failure,the creed of ignorance, and the
gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery"
-Winston Churchill

On Saturday, March 7, 2015 at 12:24:36 AM UTC-5, Puckdropper at dot wrote:

That reminds me of something else...

I had a flashlight next to the back door of the garage. Kinda nice to
get in and get something, but rather inconvenient as well, especially if
I was just passing through on a cold night.


My daughter works at a college and has a LEED certified apartment in the dorms.

I was reading the manual for her motion sensor light switches and found that they have a Walk Through" feature.

From the NeoSwitch manual...

"Walk-Through feature maximizes energy savings by not leaving the lights ON after a momentary occupancy. The sensor will switch the lights ON when it detects a person entering the area. If the sensor does not continue to detect motion 20 seconds following the initial activation, it will automatically go to a shorter 2 minute Time Delay."

In other words, Walk-Through overrides the pre-set 15 minute no-motion time delay. Neat feature.

On 3/6/2015 12:10 PM, Gramps' shop wrote:
Any of you folks have one of these?

http://www.harborfreight.com/digital...l_s1021_c1015b

The bride jammed a drawer in the china cabinet and no amount of futzing and wiggling will get it open enough to free the jam. I need to drill in from the back and think a scope will be helpful in troubleshooting. Hopefully I can free this with two small holes -- one for the scope and one for the coat hanger.

Comments on this HF unit will be appreciated.

Larry


While this info won't help you, since it seems your need is urgent.
I did some research on this a few weeks ago.

I would avoid the handheld units.
I found that you can get very good long units that plug into your
computer for way less money than the typical handhelds.

__AND.. with a lot more resolution.__



--
Jeff

On 3/7/2015 10:24 AM, woodchucker wrote:
On 3/6/2015 12:10 PM, Gramps' shop wrote:
Any of you folks have one of these?

http://www.harborfreight.com/digital...l_s1021_c1015b


The bride jammed a drawer in the china cabinet and no amount of
futzing and wiggling will get it open enough to free the jam. I need
to drill in from the back and think a scope will be helpful in
troubleshooting. Hopefully I can free this with two small holes --
one for the scope and one for the coat hanger.

Comments on this HF unit will be appreciated.

Larry


While this info won't help you, since it seems your need is urgent.
I did some research on this a few weeks ago.

I would avoid the handheld units.
I found that you can get very good long units that plug into your
computer for way less money than the typical handhelds.

__AND.. with a lot more resolution.__



can you name a few or provide a few sites?

On Saturday, March 7, 2015 at 9:24:32 AM UTC-6, woodchucker wrote:
On 3/6/2015 12:10 PM, Gramps' shop wrote:
Any of you folks have one of these?

http://www.harborfreight.com/digital...l_s1021_c1015b

The bride jammed a drawer in the china cabinet and no amount of futzing and wiggling will get it open enough to free the jam. I need to drill in from the back and think a scope will be helpful in troubleshooting. Hopefully I can free this with two small holes -- one for the scope and one for the coat hanger.

Comments on this HF unit will be appreciated.

Larry


While this info won't help you, since it seems your need is urgent.
I did some research on this a few weeks ago.

I would avoid the handheld units.
I found that you can get very good long units that plug into your
computer for way less money than the typical handhelds.

__AND.. with a lot more resolution.__



--
Jeff

I decided to pass on the HF unit when they excluded this from the 20% off coupon. Jeff ... can you give me a link to the computer-based unit?

On 3/7/2015 11:37 AM, Gramps' shop wrote:

[snip]

I would avoid the handheld units.
I found that you can get very good long units that plug into your
computer for way less money than the typical handhelds.

__AND.. with a lot more resolution.__

--
Jeff

I decided to pass on the HF unit when they excluded this from the 20% off coupon. Jeff ... can you give me a link to the computer-based unit?

Got mine on ebay. Tons of them as I recall. Don't have it handy but
IIRC, it cost me less than $25 delivered, has about a 25" flex cable
with LED(s) and the necessary software. It's connected via USB so you
can add a USB extension cord and you'll be pretty much good to go.

On Sat, 7 Mar 2015 09:37:18 -0800 (PST), "Gramps' shop"
wrote:

I decided to pass on the HF unit when they excluded this from the 20% off coupon.

What? How exactly did you determine the inspection camera is "excluded
from the 20% off coupon"?

On 3/7/15 11:48 AM, Spalted Walt wrote:
On Sat, 7 Mar 2015 09:37:18 -0800 (PST), "Gramps' shop"
wrote:

I decided to pass on the HF unit when they excluded this from the
20% off coupon.

What? How exactly did you determine the inspection camera is
"excluded from the 20% off coupon"?


It's already on sale, so you can't take the additional 20% off with the
coupon.
Even though this is their official policy, I've run across the
occasional manager who will approve it.


--

-MIKE-

"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
--
http://mikedrums.com

---remove "DOT" ^^^^ to reply

On Sat, 07 Mar 2015 17:48:36 +0000, Spalted Walt wrote:

On Sat, 7 Mar 2015 09:37:18 -0800 (PST), "Gramps' shop"
wrote:

I decided to pass on the HF unit when they excluded this from the 20% off coupon.

What? How exactly did you determine the inspection camera is "excluded
from the 20% off coupon"?

Just noticed on HF website they're having a "Parking Lot Sale" which
is listed as an exclusion on the coupon.

On 3/7/15 12:01 PM, Spalted Walt wrote:
On Sat, 07 Mar 2015 17:48:36 +0000, Spalted Walt
wrote:

On Sat, 7 Mar 2015 09:37:18 -0800 (PST), "Gramps' shop"
wrote:

I decided to pass on the HF unit when they excluded this from the
20% off coupon.

What? How exactly did you determine the inspection camera is
"excluded from the 20% off coupon"?

Just noticed on HF website they're having a "Parking Lot Sale" which
is listed as an exclusion on the coupon.


Doesn't matter where the sale is.
Their 20% coupons state "cannot be used with any other discount..."
I see the parking lot sale listed on the coupon, too. Strange that they
would feel the need to list that, since any kind of discount would fall
under the category of "any other discount" which is already on the
coupon. :-)

Stupid lawyers.


--

-MIKE-

"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
--
http://mikedrums.com

---remove "DOT" ^^^^ to reply

On Sat, 07 Mar 2015 12:01:09 -0600, -MIKE- wrote:

It's already on sale, so you can't take the additional 20% off with the
coupon.

That is simply not true.