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On Tue, 30 Mar 2021 16:19:41 +0100, John Rumm
wrote: snip Ok thanks. Please let us know how you feel over the next 24 hours. ;-) Will do - so long as I live :-) John ... John! Wake up! ;-) Cheers, T i m |
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On 31/03/2021 12:11, T i m wrote:
On Tue, 30 Mar 2021 16:19:41 +0100, John Rumm wrote: snip Ok thanks. Please let us know how you feel over the next 24 hours. ;-) Will do - so long as I live :-) John ... John! Wake up! ;-) Who me, must I? Still here apparently... arm feels like it is a bit bruised, and very slight temperature - but other than that, so far so good. -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
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On 31/03/2021 11:51, Martin Brown wrote:
On 30/03/2021 16:26, John Rumm wrote: On 30/03/2021 14:12, Radio Man wrote: I think the Pfizer is more powerful because I've had both vaccines (I am clinically highly vulnerable) and the Pfizer gave me more side effects than the Astra Zeneca. That seems like a leap of logic too far. For starters you would not necessarily expect the same response to the first jab as you get to the second, and you can only be a COVID19 vaccine virgin the once. Worse than that being given one of each is an unlicensed use unless you are a part of a clinical trail into mixing and matching of vaccines. It is supposed to be a second injection of the same vaccine. Trials of using a different second vaccine have been ongoing for some time now. |
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On Wed, 31 Mar 2021 14:30:52 +0100, John Rumm
wrote: On 31/03/2021 12:11, T i m wrote: On Tue, 30 Mar 2021 16:19:41 +0100, John Rumm wrote: snip Ok thanks. Please let us know how you feel over the next 24 hours. ;-) Will do - so long as I live :-) John ... John! Wake up! ;-) Who me, must I? phew Still here apparently... arm feels like it is a bit bruised, and very slight temperature - One you can feel or you have measured? but other than that, so far so good. Gdgd. ;-) On a more administrative note / question. I took a call from an agent working at our local surgery (I'm not sure if she was working there temporarily to do that sort of thing, she sounded like it) and accepted the booking for the Mrs to have her first jab at a local medical centre a couple of miles away (within the next couple of days). She also said I could have mine whilst we were there, sent both of us booking confirmations by TXT then rang later to cancel mine as she had offered me one by mistake (too young, toy boy etc). ;-) Some weeks later and with the jab rollout going well, I received a letter from the NHS offering me my jab and to book it online. The nearest place being 5 miles away (but likely crap parking) and the next being 7 miles away, with the potential of parking outside (the concern re parking being finding a place at all and if I had to leave the Mrs 'circling', the likely pushback to such responsibility). ;-( Now, I'm more than happy to drive the 7 miles and back, especially if that frees up something more local for people no so mobile but I was wondering what the deal is re those being offered it via their surgery and those getting a more formal / central / NHS invite? Listening around, it seems some have simply either just turned up at the local places, got in the queue and been given their jab (or not, the guy in the queue when the Mrs was getting her second jab suggested he didn't have an appointment but she didn't know how he got on (and I was 'hovering' round the corner in the car)), or requested a jab at somewhere 'local' simply because they CBA to travel further? The place I had mine was just a High Street pharmacy that had been partly converted into a jab centre by adding some seats and screens in the general shop area? Cheers, T i m |
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On 31/03/2021 15:11, T i m wrote:
On Wed, 31 Mar 2021 14:30:52 +0100, John Rumm wrote: On 31/03/2021 12:11, T i m wrote: On Tue, 30 Mar 2021 16:19:41 +0100, John Rumm wrote: snip Ok thanks. Please let us know how you feel over the next 24 hours. ;-) Will do - so long as I live :-) John ... John! Wake up! ;-) Who me, must I? phew Still here apparently... arm feels like it is a bit bruised, and very slight temperature - One you can feel or you have measured? Very casually - pointed my IR thermomemter at me bonce - it normally shows about mid 34s on the forehead, but was hovering high 35s but other than that, so far so good. Gdgd. ;-) On a more administrative note / question. I took a call from an agent working at our local surgery (I'm not sure if she was working there temporarily to do that sort of thing, she sounded like it) and accepted the booking for the Mrs to have her first jab at a local medical centre a couple of miles away (within the next couple of days). She also said I could have mine whilst we were there, sent both of us booking confirmations by TXT then rang later to cancel mine as she had offered me one by mistake (too young, toy boy etc). ;-) I get the impression there are a number of overlapping systems here. I first got text from my gp with a link to a accurx web site. SWBMO did not get that (don't think they have her mobile number) but got a call from a real person at the surgery a couple of days later. Few days after that, dead tree letter from NHS with link to nhs.co.uk to book on that. Then last friday a text from NHS with link to the same web site promoted on the letter. I am expecting a carrier pidgin to turn up next! (still you can't say they are not being diligent!) Some weeks later and with the jab rollout going well, I received a letter from the NHS offering me my jab and to book it online. The nearest place being 5 miles away (but likely crap parking) and the next being 7 miles away, with the potential of parking outside (the concern re parking being finding a place at all and if I had to leave the Mrs 'circling', the likely pushback to such responsibility). ;-( Yup can't see SWMBO going for the suggestion she takes herself over there tomorrow :-) Still on the bright side, our GPs surgery is slap bang in the middle of a large car park so that is easy. (although in "normal" times I often park on the street 4 mins walk away and save the £1.20 they want for the car park (which used to be free for 20 mins, and then cheap for another 30 mins - now you can only buy an hour plus) Now, I'm more than happy to drive the 7 miles and back, especially if that frees up something more local for people no so mobile but I was wondering what the deal is re those being offered it via their surgery and those getting a more formal / central / NHS invite? I think if you do it via the nhs web site you get to choose a "local" vaccination centre - but not necessarily your GP. Still at least the 7 miles will give you chance to put some charge back in the battery. Listening around, it seems some have simply either just turned up at the local places, got in the queue and been given their jab (or not, the guy in the queue when the Mrs was getting her second jab suggested he didn't have an appointment but she didn't know how he got on (and I was 'hovering' round the corner in the car)), or requested a jab at somewhere 'local' simply because they CBA to travel further? Some of the local ones seem to have an "informal" reserve list[1] - so you can leave your details, and they might call you at short notice one night if they are going to have shots spare at the end of the day that would otherwise have to be binned. Some of the staff at one of my clients have managed to get theirs well ahead of their cohort that way. [1]I get the impression there is no formal policy on this since you know it's going to cause whinging regardless of how sensible the practice would see to the "reasonable man". The place I had mine was just a High Street pharmacy that had been partly converted into a jab centre by adding some seats and screens in the general shop area? Yup I think our local one has done similar. -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
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OT: Covid jab reactions?
On Wed, 31 Mar 2021 16:16:46 +0100, John Rumm
wrote: snip One you can feel or you have measured? Very casually - pointed my IR thermomemter at me bonce - it normally shows about mid 34s on the forehead, but was hovering high 35s ;-) I get the impression there are a number of overlapping systems here. I first got text from my gp with a link to a accurx web site. SWBMO did not get that (don't think they have her mobile number) but got a call from a real person at the surgery a couple of days later. Few days after that, dead tree letter from NHS with link to nhs.co.uk to book on that. Then last friday a text from NHS with link to the same web site promoted on the letter. You would think they couldn't give the stuff away ... or maybe they know you have a bad memory? ;-) I am expecting a carrier pidgin to turn up next! As long as avian flu hasn't got them all. ;-( (still you can't say they are not being diligent!) No, quite. Was just wondering if I was being mugged off as it seems many others have had it locally. Admittedly many of those claimed 'underlying heath issues' so ... ? Some weeks later and with the jab rollout going well, I received a letter from the NHS offering me my jab and to book it online. The nearest place being 5 miles away (but likely crap parking) and the next being 7 miles away, with the potential of parking outside (the concern re parking being finding a place at all and if I had to leave the Mrs 'circling', the likely pushback to such responsibility). ;-( Yup can't see SWMBO going for the suggestion she takes herself over there tomorrow :-) Mine might but I'm growing ever concerned that maybe she shouldn't be trusted / expected to. ;-( Ok, I know we haven't been out in the car much over the last year and I don't think she drove any of those times but it's like falling off a bike so ... Still on the bright side, our GPs surgery is slap bang in the middle of a large car park so that is easy. (although in "normal" times I often park on the street 4 mins walk away and save the £1.20 they want for the car park (which used to be free for 20 mins, and then cheap for another 30 mins - now you can only buy an hour plus) I think I put a couple of hours on the meter (best VFM), even though I may have only been a few mins as I really didn't want her 'stressing' that a warden was passing and her expecting to have to drive off (and then get lost). ;-( But then she was surprised that I was able to drive straight to her second shot after X weeks ... seemingly ignoring the fact that I have lived in this area my whole life (so far). What she meant was that 'she' couldn't have driven there the second time as she'd forgotten where it was (1 mile from home). Now, I'm more than happy to drive the 7 miles and back, especially if that frees up something more local for people no so mobile but I was wondering what the deal is re those being offered it via their surgery and those getting a more formal / central / NHS invite? I think if you do it via the nhs web site you get to choose a "local" vaccination centre - but not necessarily your GP. Yes and yes (you didn't). The did say something like 'If you wait there could be more / better options' but I didn't want to take the risk (catching Covid or then running out etc). Still at least the 7 miles will give you chance to put some charge back in the battery. Agreed. The Meriva seems to be pretty good re parasitic drain and has started readily even when left untouched for 3 months. Listening around, it seems some have simply either just turned up at the local places, got in the queue and been given their jab (or not, the guy in the queue when the Mrs was getting her second jab suggested he didn't have an appointment but she didn't know how he got on (and I was 'hovering' round the corner in the car)), or requested a jab at somewhere 'local' simply because they CBA to travel further? Some of the local ones seem to have an "informal" reserve list[1] - so you can leave your details, and they might call you at short notice one night if they are going to have shots spare at the end of the day that would otherwise have to be binned. Yeah, I've heard of that. Some of the staff at one of my clients have managed to get theirs well ahead of their cohort that way. Not a bad perk then, especially given they are putting themselves at an increased risk. [1]I get the impression there is no formal policy on this since you know it's going to cause whinging regardless of how sensible the practice would see to the "reasonable man". Yeah, 'first come first served' and on the QT I would think in some cases (last thing in a long day and with doses otherwise going to waste). The place I had mine was just a High Street pharmacy that had been partly converted into a jab centre by adding some seats and screens in the general shop area? Yup I think our local one has done similar. It looked a bit crude / enclosed compared where the Mrs went. The 'admin' was on some tables set out in the car park (first time in a Gazebo, the second just in the open) and then walk a few paces into a couple of temporarily looking buildings. She didn't even sit down on the second one. ;-) On mine I hovered outside for about 30 seconds, got called in, sat inside (in a booth), filled out a form, had the jab and was out in probably 2 mins but at least all of us had masks on and they kept the door open. I really don't understand why so many people don't want it, don't think it's real (even) or don't seem to care (re masks / social distancing / hand cleaning). It was too late for me to do anything when the Mrs walked right up to a street busker's girlfriend to praise her partners singing and give her a couple of quid. It was quite loud so she was face to face and neither she nor her had masks on ... ;-( WTF you doing, you know there is a pandemic going on ...? 'I forgot ...' ;-( TBF, if either of us has been in a shop / petrol station or anything it's been me so she hasn't even had the little practice I have re mask wearing. It's like being with a kid though, always keeping a bottle of sanitiser in my pocket / car and monitoring everything she's touching .... She did note that I was the ONLY person to open the doors coming out of the shopping centre with my elbow (as I had done on the way in). Cheers, T i m |
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Steve Walker wrote: On 31/03/2021 11:51, Martin Brown wrote: On 30/03/2021 16:26, John Rumm wrote: On 30/03/2021 14:12, Radio Man wrote: I think the Pfizer is more powerful because I've had both vaccines (I am clinically highly vulnerable) and the Pfizer gave me more side effects than the Astra Zeneca. That seems like a leap of logic too far. For starters you would not necessarily expect the same response to the first jab as you get to the second, and you can only be a COVID19 vaccine virgin the once. Worse than that being given one of each is an unlicensed use unless you are a part of a clinical trail into mixing and matching of vaccines. It is supposed to be a second injection of the same vaccine. Trials of using a different second vaccine have been ongoing for some time now. Anyone had that? Quite a few friend have had the second jab, but all the same as the first. -- *Failure is not an option. It's bundled with your software. Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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T i m wrote: I get the impression there are a number of overlapping systems here. I first got text from my gp with a link to a accurx web site. SWBMO did not get that (don't think they have her mobile number) but got a call from a real person at the surgery a couple of days later. Few days after that, dead tree letter from NHS with link to nhs.co.uk to book on that. Then last friday a text from NHS with link to the same web site promoted on the letter. You would think they couldn't give the stuff away ... or maybe they know you have a bad memory? ;-) I am expecting a carrier pidgin to turn up next! Mine were arranged by my GP. At a local surgery. But still got contacted by the NHS offering me one at the local hospital. It would seem like they're not using a central database - or perhaps only updating it once in a while. However, you have to confirm the offer. So nothing wasted by asking me twice. Better that than the other way. -- *How do you tell when you run out of invisible ink? * Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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On Wed, 31 Mar 2021 18:31:44 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote: snip Mine were arranged by my GP. At a local surgery. I wonder if that was only the case for those above a certain age (my Mrs is 70+ for example). High priority etc? But still got contacted by the NHS offering me one at the local hospital. I only got that, the Mrs only got the GP call. It would seem like they're not using a central database - or perhaps only updating it once in a while. Yeah, it seems to be a pretty mixed bag judging by those who have commented on it so far. However, you have to confirm the offer. So nothing wasted by asking me twice. Better that than the other way. Quite. The Mrs runs our diary and unlike me where I was able to book the date and time of both jabs from the dates and times offered, she was not given a date for the second jab when given the first. Concerned she might miss out, I suggested she check the interval covered between my jabs and apply that to hers and see if we were past that date and she wasn't. Coincidentally I took the call from the GP a couple of days later booking her second and it was arranged for a couple of days after that. First one she pretty well walked straight though it from me pulling up outside to her getting back into the car about 60 seconds later. Unfortunately, in spite of us turning up dead-on-time for her second appointment, there was quite a queue spaced out along the pavement but it only took maybe 15 mins for her to get sorted. I think they had four injections stations running. Cheers, T i m |
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On 31/03/2021 18:26, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article , Steve Walker wrote: On 31/03/2021 11:51, Martin Brown wrote: On 30/03/2021 16:26, John Rumm wrote: On 30/03/2021 14:12, Radio Man wrote: I think the Pfizer is more powerful because I've had both vaccines (I am clinically highly vulnerable) and the Pfizer gave me more side effects than the Astra Zeneca. That seems like a leap of logic too far. For starters you would not necessarily expect the same response to the first jab as you get to the second, and you can only be a COVID19 vaccine virgin the once. Worse than that being given one of each is an unlicensed use unless you are a part of a clinical trail into mixing and matching of vaccines. It is supposed to be a second injection of the same vaccine. Trials of using a different second vaccine have been ongoing for some time now. Anyone had that? Quite a few friend have had the second jab, but all the same as the first. I don't think that they are giving different 2nd vaccinations as part of the vaccination drive that way yet, only running it as a stand-alone trial - ready for if one vaccine is in too short supply. |
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On 31/03/2021 18:31, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article , T i m wrote: I get the impression there are a number of overlapping systems here. I first got text from my gp with a link to a accurx web site. SWBMO did not get that (don't think they have her mobile number) but got a call from a real person at the surgery a couple of days later. Few days after that, dead tree letter from NHS with link to nhs.co.uk to book on that. Then last friday a text from NHS with link to the same web site promoted on the letter. You would think they couldn't give the stuff away ... or maybe they know you have a bad memory? ;-) I am expecting a carrier pidgin to turn up next! Mine were arranged by my GP. At a local surgery. But still got contacted by the NHS offering me one at the local hospital. It would seem like they're not using a central database - or perhaps only updating it once in a while. However, you have to confirm the offer. So nothing wasted by asking me twice. Better that than the other way. I got a letter and booked both my vaccinations (1st is tomorrow morning). I later got a text with a link. Following that link gave an option to book or an option to decline making a booking. Selecting decline gives further options, with one of them being that you are already booked in. Hopefully that will have satisfied both the NHS central database and that of the group of GP practices and neither should send me any further, now unneeded letters or texts. |
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On 31/03/2021 18:26, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article , Steve Walker wrote: On 31/03/2021 11:51, Martin Brown wrote: On 30/03/2021 16:26, John Rumm wrote: On 30/03/2021 14:12, Radio Man wrote: I think the Pfizer is more powerful because I've had both vaccines (I am clinically highly vulnerable) and the Pfizer gave me more side effects than the Astra Zeneca. That seems like a leap of logic too far. For starters you would not necessarily expect the same response to the first jab as you get to the second, and you can only be a COVID19 vaccine virgin the once. Worse than that being given one of each is an unlicensed use unless you are a part of a clinical trail into mixing and matching of vaccines. It is supposed to be a second injection of the same vaccine. Trials of using a different second vaccine have been ongoing for some time now. Anyone had that? Quite a few friend have had the second jab, but all the same as the first. As the voltage that electronic circuits need has continued to fall, they probably don't own anything that *has* a 9V battery. Indeed, all I can think of in our house (with three kids and lots of tech) are DVMs, smoke alarms and a TENS machine. Even my alarm clock no longer needs a backup battery - it stores settings and alarms in EEPROM and synchronises the clock to the radio. It's a pity, as they are ideal for testing N-gauge locomotives! |
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On 31/03/2021 14:50, Steve Walker wrote:
On 31/03/2021 11:51, Martin Brown wrote: On 30/03/2021 16:26, John Rumm wrote: On 30/03/2021 14:12, Radio Man wrote: I think the Pfizer is more powerful because I've had both vaccines (I am clinically highly vulnerable) and the Pfizer gave me more side effects than the Astra Zeneca. That seems like a leap of logic too far. For starters you would not necessarily expect the same response to the first jab as you get to the second, and you can only be a COVID19 vaccine virgin the once. Worse than that being given one of each is an unlicensed use unless you are a part of a clinical trail into mixing and matching of vaccines. It is supposed to be a second injection of the same vaccine. Trials of using a different second vaccine have been ongoing for some time now. But in monitored cohorts of not particularly vulnerable people. OP claims to be "highly vulnerable". It would be most irresponsible to subject such an individual to an untested mix and match vaccine schema. -- Regards, Martin Brown |
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On 31/03/2021 19:10, T i m wrote:
On Wed, 31 Mar 2021 18:31:44 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)" wrote: snip Mine were arranged by my GP. At a local surgery. I wonder if that was only the case for those above a certain age (my Mrs is 70+ for example). High priority etc? In the case of our, no it seems like they contact all those eligible. I got contact from the GP before the "national" invite. But still got contacted by the NHS offering me one at the local hospital. I only got that, the Mrs only got the GP call. We both go ours from the GP (me by text, her by phone) -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
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On Wed, 31 Mar 2021 20:39:31 +0100, Steve Walker wrote:
On 31/03/2021 18:26, Dave Plowman (News) wrote: In article , Steve Walker wrote: On 31/03/2021 11:51, Martin Brown wrote: On 30/03/2021 16:26, John Rumm wrote: On 30/03/2021 14:12, Radio Man wrote: I think the Pfizer is more powerful because I've had both vaccines (I am clinically highly vulnerable) and the Pfizer gave me more side effects than the Astra Zeneca. That seems like a leap of logic too far. For starters you would not necessarily expect the same response to the first jab as you get to the second, and you can only be a COVID19 vaccine virgin the once. Worse than that being given one of each is an unlicensed use unless you are a part of a clinical trail into mixing and matching of vaccines. It is supposed to be a second injection of the same vaccine. Trials of using a different second vaccine have been ongoing for some time now. Anyone had that? Quite a few friend have had the second jab, but all the same as the first. As the voltage that electronic circuits need has continued to fall, they probably don't own anything that *has* a 9V battery. Indeed, all I can think of in our house (with three kids and lots of tech) are DVMs, smoke alarms and a TENS machine. Even my alarm clock no longer needs a backup battery - it stores settings and alarms in EEPROM and synchronises the clock to the radio. It's a pity, as they are ideal for testing N-gauge locomotives! Probably replying to the wrong thread! -- My posts are my copyright and if @diy_forums or Home Owners' Hub wish to copy them they can pay me £1 a message. Use the BIG mirror service in the UK: http://www.mirrorservice.org *lightning surge protection* - a w_tom conductor |
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On 31/03/2021 22:40, Bob Eager wrote:
On Wed, 31 Mar 2021 20:39:31 +0100, Steve Walker wrote: On 31/03/2021 18:26, Dave Plowman (News) wrote: In article , Steve Walker wrote: On 31/03/2021 11:51, Martin Brown wrote: On 30/03/2021 16:26, John Rumm wrote: On 30/03/2021 14:12, Radio Man wrote: I think the Pfizer is more powerful because I've had both vaccines (I am clinically highly vulnerable) and the Pfizer gave me more side effects than the Astra Zeneca. That seems like a leap of logic too far. For starters you would not necessarily expect the same response to the first jab as you get to the second, and you can only be a COVID19 vaccine virgin the once. Worse than that being given one of each is an unlicensed use unless you are a part of a clinical trail into mixing and matching of vaccines. It is supposed to be a second injection of the same vaccine. Trials of using a different second vaccine have been ongoing for some time now. Anyone had that? Quite a few friend have had the second jab, but all the same as the first. As the voltage that electronic circuits need has continued to fall, they probably don't own anything that *has* a 9V battery. Indeed, all I can think of in our house (with three kids and lots of tech) are DVMs, smoke alarms and a TENS machine. Even my alarm clock no longer needs a backup battery - it stores settings and alarms in EEPROM and synchronises the clock to the radio. It's a pity, as they are ideal for testing N-gauge locomotives! Probably replying to the wrong thread! Yes, apparently I did. Not sure quite how, as they are well separated - and I hadn't had a drink at that stage! |
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On Wed, 31 Mar 2021 20:10:19 +0100, Steve Walker
wrote: snip I got a letter and booked both my vaccinations (1st is tomorrow morning). Any feedback? I later got a text with a link. When I took the call from the surgery it was on the house phone but I updated their records and both our mobiles so they could send the confirmations there. When the Mrs came down I just told her she'd had a text, from the doctors, confirming the appointment for her first jab and leaving her to read it and put it in her dairy. Following that link gave an option to book or an option to decline making a booking. After being called back and my appointment cancelled (their mistake, I was too young) I got the NHS letter a couple of weeks later. Selecting decline gives further options, with one of them being that you are already booked in. I never saw those options of course and we didn't get an NHS invite for the Mrs so I assume they had their act together for us. Hopefully that will have satisfied both the NHS central database and that of the group of GP practices and neither should send me any further, now unneeded letters or texts. I wouldn't mind if they did as at lest that means they have you in their system. ;-) Cheers, T i m |
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On 31/03/2021 22:52, Steve Walker wrote:
On 31/03/2021 22:40, Bob Eager wrote: Probably replying to the wrong thread! Yes, apparently I did. Not sure quite how, as they are well separated - and I hadn't had a drink at that stage! Must be the post Covid-19 brain fog then, maybe ??. |
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On 01/04/2021 16:38, Andrew wrote:
On 31/03/2021 22:52, Steve Walker wrote: On 31/03/2021 22:40, Bob Eager wrote: Probably replying to the wrong thread! Yes, apparently I did. Not sure quite how, as they are well separated - and I hadn't had a drink at that stage! Must be the post Covid-19 brain fog then, maybe ??. Nope. Not caught it and only had the first vaccination this morning. I've no excuse. |
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On Wed, 31 Mar 2021 17:25:35 +0100, T i m wrote:
On Wed, 31 Mar 2021 16:16:46 +0100, John Rumm wrote: snip One you can feel or you have measured? Very casually - pointed my IR thermomemter at me bonce - it normally shows about mid 34s on the forehead, but was hovering high 35s ;-) I get the impression there are a number of overlapping systems here. I first got text from my gp with a link to a accurx web site. SWBMO did not get that (don't think they have her mobile number) but got a call from a real person at the surgery a couple of days later. Few days after that, dead tree letter from NHS with link to nhs.co.uk to book on that. Then last friday a text from NHS with link to the same web site promoted on the letter. You would think they couldn't give the stuff away ... or maybe they know you have a bad memory? ;-) I am expecting a carrier pidgin to turn up next! As long as avian flu hasn't got them all. ;-( (still you can't say they are not being diligent!) No, quite. Was just wondering if I was being mugged off as it seems many others have had it locally. Admittedly many of those claimed 'underlying heath issues' so ... ? You mean underlying heath *problems*. Get a gardener and tell him to action it. |
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On Wed, 31 Mar 2021 16:16:46 +0100, John Rumm
wrote: I am expecting a carrier pidgin to turn up next! Must have affected you more than you think, unless you're actually thinking of Malay/Papua New Guinea mipela tok pidgin. -- AnthonyL Why ever wait to finish a job before starting the next? |
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On 01/04/2021 19:50, AnthonyL wrote:
On Wed, 31 Mar 2021 16:16:46 +0100, John Rumm wrote: I am expecting a carrier pidgin to turn up next! Must have affected you more than you think, How do you figure that? - my spelling is a good as ever :-) unless you're actually thinking of Malay/Papua New Guinea mipela tok pidgin. -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
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On 30/03/2021 14:26, John Rumm wrote:
On 30/03/2021 11:44, T i m wrote: One for the medical people ... As more and more people take the jab I was wondering if there are any stats that cover what sort of reaction they may have to one and why that might be? eg. We both had the AZ jab (she's had both now) and neither of us had any reaction at all. In contrast, a mate, his Mrs and their friend all had theirs and all three suffered ranging reactions from headaches, overall aching to nausea etc? All of the above are possible... (I had my first one this morning, so I will find out which if any kick in for me!) As I understand it, the vaccine (most vaccines) start building our own antibodies by exposing them to an inactive version of the target virus (profile?) Sometimes it's an attenuated or weakened version of the actual pathogen (or possibly a genetically engineered version with its "payload" removed), but more commonly its just a part of it - typically some of the surface proteins since these will be what the immune system will "see" first following infection. Neither of the jabs in common use here are conventional ones. Quietly in the last few years there's been some really radical work in biology. The Pfizer-Biontech one is based on mRNA. This is a signalling system used inside all living cells to make proteins, and in this case the protein it makes is on the outside of the virus. The AZ_Oxford one is a virus, but a modified cold virus. Modified to make the same protein. I had AZ, and had mild flu-like symptoms for a day; my wife had symptoms for 3 days. I know a few people who've had the real thing. They are young, and basically healthy. And have become real zealots for everyone possible being immunized. It's not fun. Andy |
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On Fri, 2 Apr 2021 21:38:10 +0100, Vir Campestris
wrote: snip The Pfizer-Biontech one is based on mRNA. This is a signalling system used inside all living cells to make proteins, and in this case the protein it makes is on the outside of the virus. The AZ_Oxford one is a virus, but a modified cold virus. Modified to make the same protein. I had AZ, and had mild flu-like symptoms for a day; my wife had symptoms for 3 days. I know a few people who've had the real thing. They are young, and basically healthy. And have become real zealots for everyone possible being immunized. It's not fun. So do we think there is a link between the OAZ jab and blood clots (and not with PB) or is it that there may have been more doses of the OAZ jab administered for some (potentially unlinked) 'link' being formed? I saw something of white blood cells / platelets mentioned on the news earlier (like there was a link)? Cheers, T i m |
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"T i m" wrote in message ... On Fri, 2 Apr 2021 21:38:10 +0100, Vir Campestris wrote: snip The Pfizer-Biontech one is based on mRNA. This is a signalling system used inside all living cells to make proteins, and in this case the protein it makes is on the outside of the virus. The AZ_Oxford one is a virus, but a modified cold virus. Modified to make the same protein. I had AZ, and had mild flu-like symptoms for a day; my wife had symptoms for 3 days. I know a few people who've had the real thing. They are young, and basically healthy. And have become real zealots for everyone possible being immunized. It's not fun. So do we think there is a link between the OAZ jab and blood clots We know there is and its known to only happen is an unusual subset of middle aged women. (and not with PB) Yep. or is it that there may have been more doses of the OAZ jab administered for some (potentially unlinked) 'link' being formed? That isnt the reason. I saw something of white blood cells / platelets mentioned on the news earlier (like there was a link)? Yep, you need to have a low platelet count to get the problem. And it's a very specific type of blood clot too, cerebral venous sinus thrombosis. |
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More Heavy Trolling by the Senile Octogenarian Nym-Shifting Ozzie Cretin!
On Sat, 3 Apr 2021 09:15:07 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again: FLUSH the trolling senile asshole's latest troll**** unread -- Norman Wells addressing trolling senile Rodent: "Ah, the voice of scum speaks." MID: |
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"Rod Speed" wrote in message ... "T i m" wrote in message ... On Fri, 2 Apr 2021 21:38:10 +0100, Vir Campestris wrote: snip The Pfizer-Biontech one is based on mRNA. This is a signalling system used inside all living cells to make proteins, and in this case the protein it makes is on the outside of the virus. The AZ_Oxford one is a virus, but a modified cold virus. Modified to make the same protein. I had AZ, and had mild flu-like symptoms for a day; my wife had symptoms for 3 days. I know a few people who've had the real thing. They are young, and basically healthy. And have become real zealots for everyone possible being immunized. It's not fun. So do we think there is a link between the OAZ jab and blood clots We know there is and its known to only happen is an unusual subset of middle aged women. (and not with PB) Yep. or is it that there may have been more doses of the OAZ jab administered for some (potentially unlinked) 'link' being formed? That isnt the reason. I saw something of white blood cells / platelets mentioned on the news earlier (like there was a link)? Yep, you need to have a low platelet count to get the problem. And it's a very specific type of blood clot too, cerebral venous sinus thrombosis. https://www.bbc.com/news/health-56620646 |
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Vir Campestris wrote: I know a few people who've had the real thing. They are young, and basically healthy. And have become real zealots for everyone possible being immunized. It's not fun. Quite. I have two friends who've had it, but not badly enough to have been hospitalised. Both have the so called Long Covid. I don't know anyone out of many who have had anything other than a mild reaction to the vaccine, and the vast majority none at all. But most, being old like me, have had Pfizer. -- *Experience is something you don't get until just after you need it * Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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T i m wrote: On Fri, 2 Apr 2021 21:38:10 +0100, Vir Campestris wrote: snip The Pfizer-Biontech one is based on mRNA. This is a signalling system used inside all living cells to make proteins, and in this case the protein it makes is on the outside of the virus. The AZ_Oxford one is a virus, but a modified cold virus. Modified to make the same protein. I had AZ, and had mild flu-like symptoms for a day; my wife had symptoms for 3 days. I know a few people who've had the real thing. They are young, and basically healthy. And have become real zealots for everyone possible being immunized. It's not fun. So do we think there is a link between the OAZ jab and blood clots (and not with PB) or is it that there may have been more doses of the OAZ jab administered for some (potentially unlinked) 'link' being formed? I saw something of white blood cells / platelets mentioned on the news earlier (like there was a link)? Even if there is proved to be a link, it is still a tiny number compared to the likelihood of being very ill with Covid. Think of it like insurance. The vast majority never actually need their house insurance. Yet happily pay it every year just in case of a serious fire, etc. -- *Is it true that cannibals don't eat clowns because they taste funny? Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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On Sat, 03 Apr 2021 12:11:03 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote: snip So do we think there is a link between the OAZ jab and blood clots (and not with PB) or is it that there may have been more doses of the OAZ jab administered for some (potentially unlinked) 'link' being formed? I saw something of white blood cells / platelets mentioned on the news earlier (like there was a link)? Even if there is proved to be a link, it is still a tiny number compared to the likelihood of being very ill with Covid. Oh sure, I was just wondering if anyone yet thought that there actually was a link, or that it couldn't still be just coincidence etc? Think of it like insurance. The vast majority never actually need their house insurance. Yet happily pay it every year just in case of a serious fire, etc. Sure. The *only* issue might be if you were in the specific 'could be at higher risk of a fatal blood clot' *if* it's actually linked to the AZ vaccine, group. If it's only 'middle aged women' then both of us here should be ok but daughter is now 30 (so not middle aged but is a woman), but probably won't be offered hers for a good while yet and by which time they should have even more stats. Just interested minds etc ... ;-) Cheers, T i m |
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On Sat, 03 Apr 2021 12:07:29 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote: In article , Vir Campestris wrote: I know a few people who've had the real thing. They are young, and basically healthy. And have become real zealots for everyone possible being immunized. It's not fun. Quite. I have two friends who've had it, but not badly enough to have been hospitalised. My mate (70+) has lost 3 family members and a couple of his (Ex) garage customers to it. I'm not sure if he's aware of anyone who has had it and survived? Turns out my Mums next_door_neighbour had it (and survived) so that was a pretty close call (for her). snip Cheers, T i m |
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Dave Plowman (News) wrote: In article , Vir Campestris wrote: I know a few people who've had the real thing. They are young, and basically healthy. And have become real zealots for everyone possible being immunized. It's not fun. Quite. I have two friends who've had it, but not badly enough to have been hospitalised. Both have the so called Long Covid. I don't know anyone out of many who have had anything other than a mild reaction to the vaccine, and the vast majority none at all. But most, being old like me, have had Pfizer. I've had the Oxford one - I'm also old -- from KT24 in Surrey, England "I'd rather die of exhaustion than die of boredom" Thomas Carlyle |
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On 03/04/2021 13:06, charles wrote:
In article , Dave Plowman (News) wrote: In article , Vir Campestris wrote: I know a few people who've had the real thing. They are young, and basically healthy. And have become real zealots for everyone possible being immunized. It's not fun. Quite. I have two friends who've had it, but not badly enough to have been hospitalised. Both have the so called Long Covid. I don't know anyone out of many who have had anything other than a mild reaction to the vaccine, and the vast majority none at all. But most, being old like me, have had Pfizer. I've had the Oxford one - I'm also old Me, too. |
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T i m wrote: Sure. The *only* issue might be if you were in the specific 'could be at higher risk of a fatal blood clot' *if* it's actually linked to the AZ vaccine, group. Everyone is at risk of a fatal blood clot vaccine or not. But the percentages who get it, tiny. Seems to me many look for any excuse not to have the vaccine. And aren't interested in actual risks. No different, really, from gambling. Everyone knows the vast majority lose overall, but plenty still do it regularly. -- *I'm really easy to get along with once people learn to worship me Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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On 03/04/2021 13:06, charles wrote:
In article , Dave Plowman (News) wrote: In article , Vir Campestris wrote: I know a few people who've had the real thing. They are young, and basically healthy. And have become real zealots for everyone possible being immunized. It's not fun. Quite. I have two friends who've had it, but not badly enough to have been hospitalised. Both have the so called Long Covid. I don't know anyone out of many who have had anything other than a mild reaction to the vaccine, and the vast majority none at all. But most, being old like me, have had Pfizer. I've had the Oxford one - I'm also old Ditto -- Karl Marx said religion is the opium of the people. But Marxism is the crack cocaine. |
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On 03/04/2021 13:06, charles wrote:
In article , Dave Plowman (News) wrote: In article , Vir Campestris wrote: I know a few people who've had the real thing. They are young, and basically healthy. And have become real zealots for everyone possible being immunized. It's not fun. Quite. I have two friends who've had it, but not badly enough to have been hospitalised. Both have the so called Long Covid. I don't know anyone out of many who have had anything other than a mild reaction to the vaccine, and the vast majority none at all. But most, being old like me, have had Pfizer. I've had the Oxford one - I'm also old I had the Oxford/AZ vaccine on Thursday morning. On Friday I woke up with a very slight headache and my left arm was slightly still. Neither enough to affect my day. However, I did feel very tired for various parts of the day. I had less sleep than normal last night, but have been back to normal still today. |
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On Sat, 03 Apr 2021 14:45:42 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote: In article , T i m wrote: Sure. The *only* issue might be if you were in the specific 'could be at higher risk of a fatal blood clot' *if* it's actually linked to the AZ vaccine, group. Everyone is at risk of a fatal blood clot vaccine or not. Yes, but that's not what we are talking about here. But the percentages who get it, tiny. Sure ... and once any risk is defined, typically not a problem, unless it happens to be you or one of yours. Seems to me many look for any excuse not to have the vaccine. But that could depend if you are a glass half full or half empty person. And aren't interested in actual risks. I'm not sure they are something as easy to define and any risk linked to the vaccine itself. Like, if you don't have any underlying health issues, don't go out or allow anyone in or near ... and regularly wash your hands and clean any delivered shopping, what are the chances of catching covid? In fact you are likely to be at a higher than normal (for you) risk, whilst going to get your jab, including getting knocked down or getting something else, like the flu! So, it's potentially possible (however unlikely) you *could* be at a greater risk in general, from the jab (inc allergic reaction etc) than without. I'm still not saying that you shouldn't get the jab, just that (*if* there is an association with blood clots) and especially if you are in the 'higher risk group (*if* there is an association with blood clots), from having it compared with not. No different, really, from gambling. Agreed, if you do something that could put you at a higher than normal risk. Everyone knows the vast majority lose overall, but plenty still do it regularly. Because they get 'fun' or 'a buzz' out of that risk. I'm not sure direct life-and-death risks are quite the same. ;-) eg. Until any links between the jab and death from blood clots are disproved, if I were a middle aged woman with the specific know / suggested conditions ... and I didn't go out etc, I think I'd have to think hard about having the AZ jab. So far the others not so. Cheers, T i m |
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On Sat, 3 Apr 2021 15:59:46 +0100, Steve Walker
wrote: On 03/04/2021 13:06, charles wrote: In article , Dave Plowman (News) wrote: In article , Vir Campestris wrote: I know a few people who've had the real thing. They are young, and basically healthy. And have become real zealots for everyone possible being immunized. It's not fun. Quite. I have two friends who've had it, but not badly enough to have been hospitalised. Both have the so called Long Covid. I don't know anyone out of many who have had anything other than a mild reaction to the vaccine, and the vast majority none at all. But most, being old like me, have had Pfizer. I've had the Oxford one - I'm also old I had the Oxford/AZ vaccine on Thursday morning. On Friday I woke up with a very slight headache and my left arm was slightly still. Neither enough to affect my day. However, I did feel very tired for various parts of the day. I think the potential for any *noticeable* side effects could be a function of how much pain you may be in anyway? The Mrs probably needs two new shoulders and is generally in pain from them so wouldn't feel any 'new' low level pain from the injection there. If it made your ears ring I might not notice over my tinnitus. I had less sleep than normal last night, but have been back to normal still today. Thanks for the feedback. Cheers, T i m |
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T i m wrote:
On Sat, 03 Apr 2021 12:11:03 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)" wrote: snip So do we think there is a link between the OAZ jab and blood clots (and not with PB) or is it that there may have been more doses of the OAZ jab administered for some (potentially unlinked) 'link' being formed? I saw something of white blood cells / platelets mentioned on the news earlier (like there was a link)? Even if there is proved to be a link, it is still a tiny number compared to the likelihood of being very ill with Covid. Oh sure, I was just wondering if anyone yet thought that there actually was a link, or that it couldn't still be just coincidence etc? In the United States, there's already been one "coincidence" that was ruled out. One of the other vaccines recorded some cases, but their frequency is the same as the general population. https://science.sciencemag.org/conte...6536/1294.full "A somewhat similar blood disorder, called immune thrombocytopenia (ITP), has been seen in at least 40 people in the United States who received the Pfizer or Moderna vaccines against COVID-19, but the U.S. Food and Drug Administration said that syndrome did not appear to be more common in vaccinated people." In other words, ITP condition is in the general population, and would have occurrences whether vaccinated or not vaccinated. The vaccine did not increase the frequency. ******* This is a backgrounder for VIPIT. vaccine-induced prothrombotic immune thrombocytopenia (VIPIT) https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/corona...know-1.5370015 If VIPIT was a coincidence, they would have stated as much by now. (That's if they'd seen a case in the general population, in someone who had not had the AstraZenica jab.) The incidence of people dying from it, may be reduced, as treatment methods become more well-known by doctors. ******* They already have labs set up for sticky platelet conditions. https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/hamil...cine-1.5971270 "The lab runs specialized tests for different types of platelet disorders, including screening for Heparin-induced thrombocytopenia (HIT)." Paul |
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"T i m" wrote in message ... On Sat, 03 Apr 2021 12:11:03 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)" wrote: snip So do we think there is a link between the OAZ jab and blood clots (and not with PB) or is it that there may have been more doses of the OAZ jab administered for some (potentially unlinked) 'link' being formed? I saw something of white blood cells / platelets mentioned on the news earlier (like there was a link)? Even if there is proved to be a link, it is still a tiny number compared to the likelihood of being very ill with Covid. Oh sure, I was just wondering if anyone yet thought that there actually was a link, or that it couldn't still be just coincidence etc? Think of it like insurance. The vast majority never actually need their house insurance. Yet happily pay it every year just in case of a serious fire, etc. Sure. The *only* issue might be if you were in the specific 'could be at higher risk of a fatal blood clot' *if* it's actually linked to the AZ vaccine, group. If it's only 'middle aged women' There is some doubt about that now with a man in Melbourne Australia who has just had the blood clots after vaccination. That's far fewer than the multiple women in western europe tho some of whom have died. then both of us here should be ok but daughter is now 30 (so not middle aged but is a woman), but probably won't be offered hers for a good while yet and by which time they should have even more stats. Just interested minds etc ... ;-) It more than that with nurses etc. |
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