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OT: COVID-19 CONVALESCENT PLASMA FOR TREATMENT OF HOSPITALIZEDPATIENTS WITH COVID-19
I just heard about this particular treatment a few days ago. It sounds
promising. ............ *EMERGENCY USE AUTHORIZATION (EUA) OF COVID-19 CONVALESCENT PLASMA FOR TREATMENT OF HOSPITALIZED PATIENTS WITH COVID-19* Read this Fact Sheet for information about COVID-19 convalescent plasma. Talk to your health care provider if you have questions. It is your choice to accept treatment with COVID-19 convalescent plasma or stop it at any time. *WHAT IS COVID-19 CONVALESCENT PLASMA?* The blood from people who recover from COVID-19 contains substances called antibodies, which are capable of fighting the virus that causes the illness. For some other diseases caused by respiratory viruses, giving people the liquid portion of blood that contains these antibodies, called plasma, obtained from those who have recovered from the virus, may lead to more rapid improvement of the disease. Patients with COVID-19 may improve faster if they receive plasma from those who have recovered from COVID-19, because it may have the ability to fight the virus that causes COVID-19. *HOW IS COVID-19 CONVALESCENT PLASMA GIVEN?* You will be given plasma, the liquid portion of the blood, from a person who has recovered from COVID-19. It will be given into one of your veins, using a sterile single use needle, and will be given over the course of up to about one to two hours. Approximately 200 mL (a little less than 8 ounces) of plasma will be given in an initial infusion. Additional infusions of plasma may occur throughout your hospital stay if the treating physician determines that additional treatments are clinically justified. {more} https://www.fda.gov/media/141479/dow...s%20COVID%2D19. -- Maggie |
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OT: COVID-19 CONVALESCENT PLASMA FOR TREATMENT OF HOSPITALIZEDPATIENTS WITH COVID-19
On Friday, February 5, 2021 at 9:59:24 AM UTC-5, Muggles wrote:
I just heard about this particular treatment a few days ago. It sounds promising. That figures, most of the rest of us have known about this since summer. |
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OT: COVID-19 CONVALESCENT PLASMA FOR TREATMENT OF HOSPITALIZEDPATIENTS WITH COVID-19
On 2/5/2021 9:11 AM, trader_4 wrote:
On Friday, February 5, 2021 at 9:59:24 AM UTC-5, Muggles wrote: I just heard about this particular treatment a few days ago. It sounds promising. That figures, most of the rest of us have known about this since summer. It's still winter. -- Maggie |
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On 05/02/2021 14:58, Muggles wrote:
I just heard about this particular treatment a few days ago.Â* It sounds promising. ........... *EMERGENCY USE AUTHORIZATION (EUA) OF COVID-19 CONVALESCENT PLASMA FOR TREATMENT OF HOSPITALIZED PATIENTS WITH COVID-19* Read this Fact Sheet for information about COVID-19 convalescent plasma. Talk to your health care provider if you have questions. It is your choice to accept treatment with COVID-19 convalescent plasma or stop it at any time. *WHAT IS COVID-19 CONVALESCENT PLASMA?* The blood from people who recover from COVID-19 contains substances called antibodies, which are capable of fighting the virus that causes the illness. For some other diseases caused by respiratory viruses, giving people the liquid portion of blood that contains these antibodies, called plasma, obtained from those who have recovered from the virus, may lead to more rapid improvement of the disease. Patients with COVID-19 may improve faster if they receive plasma from those who have recovered from COVID-19, because it may have the ability to fight the virus that causes COVID-19. *HOW IS COVID-19 CONVALESCENT PLASMA GIVEN?* You will be given plasma, the liquid portion of the blood, from a person who has recovered from COVID-19. It will be given into one of your veins, using a sterile single use needle, and will be given over the course of up to about one to two hours. Approximately 200 mL (a little less than 8 ounces) of plasma will be given in an initial infusion. Additional infusions of plasma may occur throughout your hospital stay if the treating physician determines that additional treatments are clinically justified. {more} https://www.fda.gov/media/141479/dow...s%20COVID%2D19. Sounds interesting, thanks. |
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OT: COVID-19 CONVALESCENT PLASMA FOR TREATMENT OF HOSPITALIZEDPATIENTS WITH COVID-19
On Friday, February 5, 2021 at 10:15:13 AM UTC-5, Muggles wrote:
On 2/5/2021 9:11 AM, trader_4 wrote: On Friday, February 5, 2021 at 9:59:24 AM UTC-5, Muggles wrote: I just heard about this particular treatment a few days ago. It sounds promising. That figures, most of the rest of us have known about this since summer. It's still winter. -- Maggie Then you wonder why I say you're the village idiot. |
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OT: COVID-19 CONVALESCENT PLASMA FOR TREATMENT OF HOSPITALIZEDPATIENTS WITH COVID-19
On 2/5/2021 9:17 AM, Bod wrote:
On 05/02/2021 14:58, Muggles wrote: I just heard about this particular treatment a few days ago.Â* It sounds promising. ........... *EMERGENCY USE AUTHORIZATION (EUA) OF COVID-19 CONVALESCENT PLASMA FOR TREATMENT OF HOSPITALIZED PATIENTS WITH COVID-19* Read this Fact Sheet for information about COVID-19 convalescent plasma. Talk to your health care provider if you have questions. It is your choice to accept treatment with COVID-19 convalescent plasma or stop it at any time. *WHAT IS COVID-19 CONVALESCENT PLASMA?* The blood from people who recover from COVID-19 contains substances called antibodies, which are capable of fighting the virus that causes the illness. For some other diseases caused by respiratory viruses, giving people the liquid portion of blood that contains these antibodies, called plasma, obtained from those who have recovered from the virus, may lead to more rapid improvement of the disease. Patients with COVID-19 may improve faster if they receive plasma from those who have recovered from COVID-19, because it may have the ability to fight the virus that causes COVID-19. *HOW IS COVID-19 CONVALESCENT PLASMA GIVEN?* You will be given plasma, the liquid portion of the blood, from a person who has recovered from COVID-19. It will be given into one of your veins, using a sterile single use needle, and will be given over the course of up to about one to two hours. Approximately 200 mL (a little less than 8 ounces) of plasma will be given in an initial infusion. Additional infusions of plasma may occur throughout your hospital stay if the treating physician determines that additional treatments are clinically justified. {more} https://www.fda.gov/media/141479/dow...s%20COVID%2D19. Sounds interesting, thanks. Do you know anyone who has recovered from covid and then donated plasma with antibodies? -- Maggie |
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On 05/02/2021 15:44, Muggles wrote:
On 2/5/2021 9:17 AM, Bod wrote: On 05/02/2021 14:58, Muggles wrote: I just heard about this particular treatment a few days ago.Â* It sounds promising. ........... *EMERGENCY USE AUTHORIZATION (EUA) OF COVID-19 CONVALESCENT PLASMA FOR TREATMENT OF HOSPITALIZED PATIENTS WITH COVID-19* Read this Fact Sheet for information about COVID-19 convalescent plasma. Talk to your health care provider if you have questions. It is your choice to accept treatment with COVID-19 convalescent plasma or stop it at any time. *WHAT IS COVID-19 CONVALESCENT PLASMA?* The blood from people who recover from COVID-19 contains substances called antibodies, which are capable of fighting the virus that causes the illness. For some other diseases caused by respiratory viruses, giving people the liquid portion of blood that contains these antibodies, called plasma, obtained from those who have recovered from the virus, may lead to more rapid improvement of the disease. Patients with COVID-19 may improve faster if they receive plasma from those who have recovered from COVID-19, because it may have the ability to fight the virus that causes COVID-19. *HOW IS COVID-19 CONVALESCENT PLASMA GIVEN?* You will be given plasma, the liquid portion of the blood, from a person who has recovered from COVID-19. It will be given into one of your veins, using a sterile single use needle, and will be given over the course of up to about one to two hours. Approximately 200 mL (a little less than 8 ounces) of plasma will be given in an initial infusion. Additional infusions of plasma may occur throughout your hospital stay if the treating physician determines that additional treatments are clinically justified. {more} https://www.fda.gov/media/141479/dow...s%20COVID%2D19. Sounds interesting, thanks. Do you know anyone who has recovered from covid and then donated plasma with antibodies? No. |
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OT: COVID-19 CONVALESCENT PLASMA FOR TREATMENT OF HOSPITALIZEDPATIENTS WITH COVID-19
On 2/5/2021 9:33 AM, trader_4 wrote:
On Friday, February 5, 2021 at 10:15:13 AM UTC-5, Muggles wrote: On 2/5/2021 9:11 AM, trader_4 wrote: On Friday, February 5, 2021 at 9:59:24 AM UTC-5, Muggles wrote: I just heard about this particular treatment a few days ago. It sounds promising. That figures, most of the rest of us have known about this since summer. It's still winter. -- Maggie Then you wonder why I say you're the village idiot. IF you're referring to last summer 2019, all sorts of ideas were being tossed around on how to deal with covid. Masks and distancing seem to be the GO TO method of dealing with it in the stupid hope that it'll prevent someone from getting sick. The problem with THAT approach is there is NO way to actually prevent anyone from catching a virus. EVEN getting vaccines is NO guarantee that individual won't still get sick. Vaccines are supposed to produce antibodies against the virus that causes an illness, but that doesn't always work. Infusing people with antibody plasma that is specifically taken from people who naturally developed antibodies while they recovered from covid has been under the radar and not exactly a topic of discussion. Do YOU know anyone who has had covid and donated their antibody plasma to save someone else? Do you know anyone who has actually been treated with covid antibody plasma? We're all going to catch covid at some point because you CAN'T hide from viruses. Not everyone will get sick, and some people will get sick enough to need hospitalization. Seems to me THIS TREATMENT is a major answer - NOT masks or distancing. -- Maggie |
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On 2/5/2021 9:49 AM, Bod wrote:
On 05/02/2021 15:44, Muggles wrote: On 2/5/2021 9:17 AM, Bod wrote: On 05/02/2021 14:58, Muggles wrote: I just heard about this particular treatment a few days ago.Â* It sounds promising. ........... *EMERGENCY USE AUTHORIZATION (EUA) OF COVID-19 CONVALESCENT PLASMA FOR TREATMENT OF HOSPITALIZED PATIENTS WITH COVID-19* Read this Fact Sheet for information about COVID-19 convalescent plasma. Talk to your health care provider if you have questions. It is your choice to accept treatment with COVID-19 convalescent plasma or stop it at any time. *WHAT IS COVID-19 CONVALESCENT PLASMA?* The blood from people who recover from COVID-19 contains substances called antibodies, which are capable of fighting the virus that causes the illness. For some other diseases caused by respiratory viruses, giving people the liquid portion of blood that contains these antibodies, called plasma, obtained from those who have recovered from the virus, may lead to more rapid improvement of the disease. Patients with COVID-19 may improve faster if they receive plasma from those who have recovered from COVID-19, because it may have the ability to fight the virus that causes COVID-19. *HOW IS COVID-19 CONVALESCENT PLASMA GIVEN?* You will be given plasma, the liquid portion of the blood, from a person who has recovered from COVID-19. It will be given into one of your veins, using a sterile single use needle, and will be given over the course of up to about one to two hours. Approximately 200 mL (a little less than 8 ounces) of plasma will be given in an initial infusion. Additional infusions of plasma may occur throughout your hospital stay if the treating physician determines that additional treatments are clinically justified. {more} https://www.fda.gov/media/141479/dow...s%20COVID%2D19. Sounds interesting, thanks. Do you know anyone who has recovered from covid and then donated plasma with antibodies? No. I know a bunch of people who have had covid. Many of those people wore masks all the time. A few people could NOT wear masks due to medical conditions. ONLY ONE man got seriously ill. This Sr. man was the only person I know who has been hospitalized out of all the people I know who had covid. He got the flu, but waited too long before seeking medical assistance. By the time he did seek help, an ambulance had to take him to the ER. He was diagnosed with Covid within 10 minutes of getting there, admitted to the hospital, had pneumonia and a severe blood infection, and spent about 2 weeks there being treated. He improved some, but reached a plateau. Four days ago they began giving him Covid plasma treatments with covid antibodies. The man began feeling better later that day, and 3 days later he tested negative for Covid, is improving dramatically, and will get out of the hospital either today or tomorrow. It sounds like this is the best treatment for seriously ill patients in the hospital. Part of the issue is the covid plasma treatment is quite expensive - $2500 for each treatment I am told. Many people have antibodies from recovering from covid. Why isn't there emphasis on the life-saving potential for this treatment? Everyone can easily donate covid antibody plasma when they've recovered. -- Maggie |
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On 2/5/2021 10:44 AM, Muggles wrote:
*WHAT IS COVID-19 CONVALESCENT PLASMA?* The blood from people who recover from COVID-19 contains substances called antibodies, which are capable of fighting the virus that causes the illness. For some other diseases caused by respiratory viruses, giving people the liquid portion of blood that contains these antibodies, called plasma, obtained from those who have recovered from the virus, may lead to more rapid improvement of the disease. Patients with COVID-19 may improve faster if they receive plasma from those who have recovered from COVID-19, because it may have the ability to fight the virus that causes COVID-19. *HOW IS COVID-19 CONVALESCENT PLASMA GIVEN?* You will be given plasma, the liquid portion of the blood, from a person who has recovered from COVID-19. It will be given into one of your veins, using a sterile single use needle, and will be given over the course of up to about one to two hours. Approximately 200 mL (a little less than 8 ounces) of plasma will be given in an initial infusion. Additional infusions of plasma may occur throughout your hospital stay if the treating physician determines that additional treatments are clinically justified. {more} https://www.fda.gov/media/141479/dow...s%20COVID%2D19. Sounds interesting, thanks. Do you know anyone who has recovered from covid and then donated plasma with antibodies? Yes, one fellow had donated at least twice that I'm aware of. |
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On Friday, February 5, 2021 at 9:59:24 AM UTC-5, Muggles wrote:
I just heard about this particular treatment a few days ago. It sounds promising. And in the other thread you say you won't get vaccinated. This treatment has no more testing , probably less at this point, than the vaccines. Go figure. |
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On 2/5/2021 10:16 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 2/5/2021 10:44 AM, Muggles wrote: *WHAT IS COVID-19 CONVALESCENT PLASMA?* The blood from people who recover from COVID-19 contains substances called antibodies, which are capable of fighting the virus that causes the illness. For some other diseases caused by respiratory viruses, giving people the liquid portion of blood that contains these antibodies, called plasma, obtained from those who have recovered from the virus, may lead to more rapid improvement of the disease. Patients with COVID-19 may improve faster if they receive plasma from those who have recovered from COVID-19, because it may have the ability to fight the virus that causes COVID-19. *HOW IS COVID-19 CONVALESCENT PLASMA GIVEN?* You will be given plasma, the liquid portion of the blood, from a person who has recovered from COVID-19. It will be given into one of your veins, using a sterile single use needle, and will be given over the course of up to about one to two hours. Approximately 200 mL (a little less than 8 ounces) of plasma will be given in an initial infusion. Additional infusions of plasma may occur throughout your hospital stay if the treating physician determines that additional treatments are clinically justified. {more} https://www.fda.gov/media/141479/dow...s%20COVID%2D19. Sounds interesting, thanks. Do you know anyone who has recovered from covid and then donated plasma with antibodies? Yes, one fellow had donated at least twice that I'm aware of. That's great! That will provide people with antibodies which is the main method of our bodies fighting off viruses. -- Maggie |
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On 2/5/2021 7:14 AM, Muggles wrote:
On 2/5/2021 9:11 AM, trader_4 wrote: On Friday, February 5, 2021 at 9:59:24 AM UTC-5, Muggles wrote: I just heard about this particular treatment a few days ago. It sounds promising. That figures, most of the rest of us have known about this since summer. It's still winter. Muggles never fails to display her incredible ignorance to new levels. We have all known about this treatment since early in the pandemic. It is a technique that has been known for more than 100 years for other diseases. And Mugs reads so much she found out about it a few days ago. WOW! Maybe she will discover some slightly more modern medical science some day. |
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On 2/5/2021 8:22 AM, Muggles wrote:
On 2/5/2021 10:16 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote: On 2/5/2021 10:44 AM, Muggles wrote: *WHAT IS COVID-19 CONVALESCENT PLASMA?* The blood from people who recover from COVID-19 contains substances called antibodies, which are capable of fighting the virus that causes the illness. For some other diseases caused by respiratory viruses, giving people the liquid portion of blood that contains these antibodies, called plasma, obtained from those who have recovered from the virus, may lead to more rapid improvement of the disease. Patients with COVID-19 may improve faster if they receive plasma from those who have recovered from COVID-19, because it may have the ability to fight the virus that causes COVID-19. *HOW IS COVID-19 CONVALESCENT PLASMA GIVEN?* You will be given plasma, the liquid portion of the blood, from a person who has recovered from COVID-19. It will be given into one of your veins, using a sterile single use needle, and will be given over the course of up to about one to two hours. Approximately 200 mL (a little less than 8 ounces) of plasma will be given in an initial infusion. Additional infusions of plasma may occur throughout your hospital stay if the treating physician determines that additional treatments are clinically justified. {more} https://www.fda.gov/media/141479/dow...s%20COVID%2D19. Sounds interesting, thanks. Do you know anyone who has recovered from covid and then donated plasma with antibodies? Yes, one fellow had donated at least twice that I'm aware of. That's great!Â* That will provide people with antibodies which is the main method of our bodies fighting off viruses. Keep researching. Maybe you will find out about a new invention. Something call a vaccination, that gets your body to create it's own antibodies, so you don't have to wait until you get covid, and get it from other people to be able to fight disease. And there is another brilliant invention, called a "mask", that helps reduce disease from passing from an infected person to someone else. Look it up, you might learn something. |
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On 2/5/2021 10:20 AM, trader_4 wrote:
On Friday, February 5, 2021 at 9:59:24 AM UTC-5, Muggles wrote: I just heard about this particular treatment a few days ago. It sounds promising. And in the other thread you say you won't get vaccinated. This treatment has no more testing , probably less at this point, than the vaccines. Go figure. It is a well known established *FACT* that our bodies fight viruses by developing antibodies that stop viruses from replicating. Vaccines are given to people so they will create their own antibodies. Often vaccines have terrible side effects, especially when they haven't been thoroughly tested. OTOH, antibody plasma is well known as to what it will do and much lessor potential side effects. PLUS, it boosts the person's individual antibody load to fight covid. An untested vaccine is one thing. You take your chances as to whether or not you will have a deadly reaction. Blood plasma with antibodies that target the actual virus is a well known and effective treatment already. -- Maggie |
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On Friday, February 5, 2021 at 11:17:04 AM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 2/5/2021 10:44 AM, Muggles wrote: Do you know anyone who has recovered from covid and then donated plasma with antibodies? Yes, one fellow had donated at least twice that I'm aware of. Not good enough. We need covid-positive plasma farms. I'm sure we can find some undesirables to infect with SARS-COV-2 and harvest their plasma. Cindy Hamilton |
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On 2/5/2021 10:23 AM, Bob F wrote:
On 2/5/2021 7:14 AM, Muggles wrote: On 2/5/2021 9:11 AM, trader_4 wrote: On Friday, February 5, 2021 at 9:59:24 AM UTC-5, Muggles wrote: I just heard about this particular treatment a few days ago. It sounds promising. That figures, most of the rest of us have known about this since summer. It's still winter. Muggles never fails to display her incredible ignorance to new levels. We have all known about this treatment since early in the pandemic. It is a technique that has been known for more than 100 years for other diseases. Gee ... using the wording "this particular treatment" evidently doesn't modify my sentence meaning enough for you and trader. People like you need to be talked down to, but I'm not interested in dumbing down what I say just so you GET the meaning. And Mugs reads so much she found out about it a few days ago. WOW! Maybe she will discover some slightly more modern medical science some day. Re-read what I just said ... -- Maggie |
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On 2/5/2021 10:28 AM, Bob F wrote:
On 2/5/2021 8:22 AM, Muggles wrote: On 2/5/2021 10:16 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote: On 2/5/2021 10:44 AM, Muggles wrote: *WHAT IS COVID-19 CONVALESCENT PLASMA?* The blood from people who recover from COVID-19 contains substances called antibodies, which are capable of fighting the virus that causes the illness. For some other diseases caused by respiratory viruses, giving people the liquid portion of blood that contains these antibodies, called plasma, obtained from those who have recovered from the virus, may lead to more rapid improvement of the disease. Patients with COVID-19 may improve faster if they receive plasma from those who have recovered from COVID-19, because it may have the ability to fight the virus that causes COVID-19. *HOW IS COVID-19 CONVALESCENT PLASMA GIVEN?* You will be given plasma, the liquid portion of the blood, from a person who has recovered from COVID-19. It will be given into one of your veins, using a sterile single use needle, and will be given over the course of up to about one to two hours. Approximately 200 mL (a little less than 8 ounces) of plasma will be given in an initial infusion. Additional infusions of plasma may occur throughout your hospital stay if the treating physician determines that additional treatments are clinically justified. {more} https://www.fda.gov/media/141479/dow...s%20COVID%2D19. Sounds interesting, thanks. Do you know anyone who has recovered from covid and then donated plasma with antibodies? Yes, one fellow had donated at least twice that I'm aware of. That's great!Â* That will provide people with antibodies which is the main method of our bodies fighting off viruses. Keep researching. Maybe you will find out about a new invention. Something call a vaccination, that gets your body to create it's own antibodies, so you don't have to wait until you get covid, and get it from other people to be able to fight disease. And there is another brilliant invention, called a "mask", that helps reduceÂ* disease from passing from an infected person to someone else. Look it up, you might learn something. Masks don't prevent anyone from catching a virus, and there's NO PROOF they help. They even come with disclaimers that says there are NOT for medical use. Additionally, masks cause many people to get sick! You seem to think masks should be the main prevention, but they don't do squat. OTOH, antibodies are well known for fighting viruses. Why inject yourself with a foreign untested "vaccine" when you've no idea if you'll have a potential deadly response to it. Our bodies fight viruses by CREATING antibodies. Plasma has been used for a long time on ill patients, and plasma with covid antibodies already MAKE SENSE! Many of you people here seem to think masks and distancing will defeat or slow down covid, but you've been proven WRONG from the start. -- Maggie |
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On Friday, February 5, 2021 at 11:32:06 AM UTC-5, Muggles wrote:
On 2/5/2021 10:20 AM, trader_4 wrote: On Friday, February 5, 2021 at 9:59:24 AM UTC-5, Muggles wrote: I just heard about this particular treatment a few days ago. It sounds promising. And in the other thread you say you won't get vaccinated. This treatment has no more testing , probably less at this point, than the vaccines. Go figure. It is a well known established *FACT* that our bodies fight viruses by developing antibodies that stop viruses from replicating. Vaccines are given to people so they will create their own antibodies. Often vaccines have terrible side effects, especially when they haven't been thoroughly tested. OTOH, antibody plasma is well known as to what it will do and much lessor potential side effects. PLUS, it boosts the person's individual antibody load to fight covid. An untested vaccine is one thing. You take your chances as to whether or not you will have a deadly reaction. Blood plasma with antibodies that target the actual virus is a well known and effective treatment already. -- Maggie You make it sound like the vaccine just came out and we only have the experiences of a few thousand. It was tested months ago on ~50K people and it's been given to tens of millions of people around the world. The adverse reactions have been documented and are extremely rare. Your chances of contracting Covid and winding up in the hosptial or dead, now there is something orders of magnitude more likely. We have almost 500K dead in the US from Covid vs how many dead from from the vaccine? Good grief. |
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On 2/5/2021 10:41 AM, trader_4 wrote:
On Friday, February 5, 2021 at 11:32:06 AM UTC-5, Muggles wrote: On 2/5/2021 10:20 AM, trader_4 wrote: On Friday, February 5, 2021 at 9:59:24 AM UTC-5, Muggles wrote: I just heard about this particular treatment a few days ago. It sounds promising. And in the other thread you say you won't get vaccinated. This treatment has no more testing , probably less at this point, than the vaccines. Go figure. It is a well known established *FACT* that our bodies fight viruses by developing antibodies that stop viruses from replicating. Vaccines are given to people so they will create their own antibodies. Often vaccines have terrible side effects, especially when they haven't been thoroughly tested. OTOH, antibody plasma is well known as to what it will do and much lessor potential side effects. PLUS, it boosts the person's individual antibody load to fight covid. An untested vaccine is one thing. You take your chances as to whether or not you will have a deadly reaction. Blood plasma with antibodies that target the actual virus is a well known and effective treatment already. You make it sound like the vaccine just came out and we only have the experiences of a few thousand. It was tested months ago on ~50K people and it's been given to tens of millions of people around the world. You think it's been tested enough? You're welcome to take any vaccine you desire. No vaccine for covid has been tested long enough to understand the side effects and potential for harm in the future. OTOH ... plasma with antibodies is MUCH safer, a well known treatment, and actually delivers covid antibodies to a sick patient who is struggling at creating their own antibodies. Let me think ... hmmmmmmmm ... If I needed antibodies, but was suffering from pneumonia or worse, my body isn't exactly going to be working harder to produce all the antibodies I will need to fight covid. hmmmm ... I think I'll go with antibody plasma that will BOOST my immune system while at the same time my body can ADD to the the plasma antibodies to FIGHT the virus. The adverse reactions have been documented and are extremely rare. Your chances of contracting Covid and winding up in the hosptial or dead, now there is something orders of magnitude more likely. We have almost 500K dead in the US from Covid vs how many dead from from the vaccine? Good grief. Too many people have died as a direct result of receiving one of the experimental vaccines. You're welcome to experiment with your body. -- Maggie |
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OT: COVID-19 CONVALESCENT PLASMA FOR TREATMENT OF HOSPITALIZEDPATIENTS WITH COVID-19
On Friday, February 5, 2021 at 11:41:02 AM UTC-5, Muggles wrote:
On 2/5/2021 10:28 AM, Bob F wrote: On 2/5/2021 8:22 AM, Muggles wrote: On 2/5/2021 10:16 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote: On 2/5/2021 10:44 AM, Muggles wrote: *WHAT IS COVID-19 CONVALESCENT PLASMA?* The blood from people who recover from COVID-19 contains substances called antibodies, which are capable of fighting the virus that causes the illness. For some other diseases caused by respiratory viruses, giving people the liquid portion of blood that contains these antibodies, called plasma, obtained from those who have recovered from the virus, may lead to more rapid improvement of the disease. Patients with COVID-19 may improve faster if they receive plasma from those who have recovered from COVID-19, because it may have the ability to fight the virus that causes COVID-19. *HOW IS COVID-19 CONVALESCENT PLASMA GIVEN?* You will be given plasma, the liquid portion of the blood, from a person who has recovered from COVID-19. It will be given into one of your veins, using a sterile single use needle, and will be given over the course of up to about one to two hours. Approximately 200 mL (a little less than 8 ounces) of plasma will be given in an initial infusion. Additional infusions of plasma may occur throughout your hospital stay if the treating physician determines that additional treatments are clinically justified. {more} https://www.fda.gov/media/141479/dow...s%20COVID%2D19. Sounds interesting, thanks. Do you know anyone who has recovered from covid and then donated plasma with antibodies? Yes, one fellow had donated at least twice that I'm aware of. That's great! That will provide people with antibodies which is the main method of our bodies fighting off viruses. Keep researching. Maybe you will find out about a new invention. Something call a vaccination, that gets your body to create it's own antibodies, so you don't have to wait until you get covid, and get it from other people to be able to fight disease. And there is another brilliant invention, called a "mask", that helps reduce disease from passing from an infected person to someone else. Look it up, you might learn something. Masks don't prevent anyone from catching a virus, and there's NO PROOF they help. Another big lie repeated. They even come with disclaimers that says there are NOT for medical use. Additionally, masks cause many people to get sick! You seem to think masks should be the main prevention, but they don't do squat. You seem incapable of being educated. I never said or implied in any way that masks should be the main prevention method. It's one tool among many. OTOH, antibodies are well known for fighting viruses. Why inject yourself with a foreign untested "vaccine" when you've no idea if you'll have a potential deadly response to it. Because tens of millions have now received these vaccines and the adverse reactions are extremely low, no different than any other vaccine, eg the flu one that you claim you do get. Our bodies fight viruses by CREATING antibodies. Plasma has been used for a long time on ill patients, and plasma with covid antibodies already MAKE SENSE! Many of you people here seem to think masks and distancing will defeat or slow down covid, but you've been proven WRONG from the start. That's another lie. States like NY, NJ, CT, MA showed that masks, distancing and closures quickly crushed Covid last spring. Other states, that went the denial and stupidity route, eg South Dakota holding Sturgis, no masks, no distancing, went exactly the opposite way, they became the new hot spots, with people dying, needlessly. |
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OT: COVID-19 CONVALESCENT PLASMA FOR TREATMENT OF HOSPITALIZEDPATIENTS WITH COVID-19
On 2/5/2021 10:49 AM, trader_4 wrote:
On Friday, February 5, 2021 at 11:41:02 AM UTC-5, Muggles wrote: On 2/5/2021 10:28 AM, Bob F wrote: On 2/5/2021 8:22 AM, Muggles wrote: On 2/5/2021 10:16 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote: On 2/5/2021 10:44 AM, Muggles wrote: *WHAT IS COVID-19 CONVALESCENT PLASMA?* The blood from people who recover from COVID-19 contains substances called antibodies, which are capable of fighting the virus that causes the illness. For some other diseases caused by respiratory viruses, giving people the liquid portion of blood that contains these antibodies, called plasma, obtained from those who have recovered from the virus, may lead to more rapid improvement of the disease. Patients with COVID-19 may improve faster if they receive plasma from those who have recovered from COVID-19, because it may have the ability to fight the virus that causes COVID-19. *HOW IS COVID-19 CONVALESCENT PLASMA GIVEN?* You will be given plasma, the liquid portion of the blood, from a person who has recovered from COVID-19. It will be given into one of your veins, using a sterile single use needle, and will be given over the course of up to about one to two hours. Approximately 200 mL (a little less than 8 ounces) of plasma will be given in an initial infusion. Additional infusions of plasma may occur throughout your hospital stay if the treating physician determines that additional treatments are clinically justified. {more} https://www.fda.gov/media/141479/dow...s%20COVID%2D19. Sounds interesting, thanks. Do you know anyone who has recovered from covid and then donated plasma with antibodies? Yes, one fellow had donated at least twice that I'm aware of. That's great! That will provide people with antibodies which is the main method of our bodies fighting off viruses. Keep researching. Maybe you will find out about a new invention. Something call a vaccination, that gets your body to create it's own antibodies, so you don't have to wait until you get covid, and get it from other people to be able to fight disease. And there is another brilliant invention, called a "mask", that helps reduce disease from passing from an infected person to someone else. Look it up, you might learn something. Masks don't prevent anyone from catching a virus, and there's NO PROOF they help. Another big lie repeated. Nope ... do provide verifiable proof that masks prevent people from catching viruses. They even come with disclaimers that says there are NOT for medical use. Additionally, masks cause many people to get sick! You seem to think masks should be the main prevention, but they don't do squat. You seem incapable of being educated. I never said or implied in any way that masks should be the main prevention method. It's one tool among many. I guess you simply ignore the disclaimers that come on the masks you purchase. -- Maggie |
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OT: COVID-19 CONVALESCENT PLASMA FOR TREATMENT OF HOSPITALIZED PATIENTS WITH COVID-19
On 05/02/2021 16:40, Muggles wrote:
On 2/5/2021 10:28 AM, Bob F wrote: On 2/5/2021 8:22 AM, Muggles wrote: On 2/5/2021 10:16 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote: On 2/5/2021 10:44 AM, Muggles wrote: *WHAT IS COVID-19 CONVALESCENT PLASMA?* The blood from people who recover from COVID-19 contains substances called antibodies, which are capable of fighting the virus that causes the illness. For some other diseases caused by respiratory viruses, giving people the liquid portion of blood that contains these antibodies, called plasma, obtained from those who have recovered from the virus, may lead to more rapid improvement of the disease. Patients with COVID-19 may improve faster if they receive plasma from those who have recovered from COVID-19, because it may have the ability to fight the virus that causes COVID-19. *HOW IS COVID-19 CONVALESCENT PLASMA GIVEN?* You will be given plasma, the liquid portion of the blood, from a person who has recovered from COVID-19. It will be given into one of your veins, using a sterile single use needle, and will be given over the course of up to about one to two hours. Approximately 200 mL (a little less than 8 ounces) of plasma will be given in an initial infusion. Additional infusions of plasma may occur throughout your hospital stay if the treating physician determines that additional treatments are clinically justified. {more} https://www.fda.gov/media/141479/dow...s%20COVID%2D19. Sounds interesting, thanks. Do you know anyone who has recovered from covid and then donated plasma with antibodies? Yes, one fellow had donated at least twice that I'm aware of. That's great!Â* That will provide people with antibodies which is the main method of our bodies fighting off viruses. Keep researching. Maybe you will find out about a new invention. Something call a vaccination, that gets your body to create it's own antibodies, so you don't have to wait until you get covid, and get it from other people to be able to fight disease. And there is another brilliant invention, called a "mask", that helps reduceÂ* disease from passing from an infected person to someone else. Look it up, you might learn something. Masks don't prevent anyone from catching a virus, and there's NO PROOF they help. They even come with disclaimers that says there are NOT for medical use. Additionally, masks cause many people to get sick!Â* You seem to think masks should be the main prevention, but they don't do squat. OTOH, antibodies are well known for fighting viruses.Â* Why inject yourself with a foreign untested "vaccine" when you've no idea if you'll have a potential deadly response to it. Our bodies fight viruses by CREATING antibodies.Â* Plasma has been used for a long time on ill patients, and plasma with covid antibodies already MAKE SENSE! Many of you people here seem to think masks and distancing will defeat or slow down covid, but you've been proven WRONG from the start. A demo showing that masks greatly reduce the spread from the mouth: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbAzUUtqbiU |
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OT: COVID-19 CONVALESCENT PLASMA FOR TREATMENT OF HOSPITALIZEDPATIENTS WITH COVID-19
On 2/5/2021 11:21 AM, Bod wrote:
On 05/02/2021 16:40, Muggles wrote: On 2/5/2021 10:28 AM, Bob F wrote: On 2/5/2021 8:22 AM, Muggles wrote: On 2/5/2021 10:16 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote: On 2/5/2021 10:44 AM, Muggles wrote: *WHAT IS COVID-19 CONVALESCENT PLASMA?* The blood from people who recover from COVID-19 contains substances called antibodies, which are capable of fighting the virus that causes the illness. For some other diseases caused by respiratory viruses, giving people the liquid portion of blood that contains these antibodies, called plasma, obtained from those who have recovered from the virus, may lead to more rapid improvement of the disease. Patients with COVID-19 may improve faster if they receive plasma from those who have recovered from COVID-19, because it may have the ability to fight the virus that causes COVID-19. *HOW IS COVID-19 CONVALESCENT PLASMA GIVEN?* You will be given plasma, the liquid portion of the blood, from a person who has recovered from COVID-19. It will be given into one of your veins, using a sterile single use needle, and will be given over the course of up to about one to two hours. Approximately 200 mL (a little less than 8 ounces) of plasma will be given in an initial infusion. Additional infusions of plasma may occur throughout your hospital stay if the treating physician determines that additional treatments are clinically justified. {more} https://www.fda.gov/media/141479/dow...s%20COVID%2D19. Sounds interesting, thanks. Do you know anyone who has recovered from covid and then donated plasma with antibodies? Yes, one fellow had donated at least twice that I'm aware of. That's great!Â* That will provide people with antibodies which is the main method of our bodies fighting off viruses. Keep researching. Maybe you will find out about a new invention. Something call a vaccination, that gets your body to create it's own antibodies, so you don't have to wait until you get covid, and get it from other people to be able to fight disease. And there is another brilliant invention, called a "mask", that helps reduceÂ* disease from passing from an infected person to someone else. Look it up, you might learn something. Masks don't prevent anyone from catching a virus, and there's NO PROOF they help. They even come with disclaimers that says there are NOT for medical use. Additionally, masks cause many people to get sick!Â* You seem to think masks should be the main prevention, but they don't do squat. OTOH, antibodies are well known for fighting viruses.Â* Why inject yourself with a foreign untested "vaccine" when you've no idea if you'll have a potential deadly response to it. Our bodies fight viruses by CREATING antibodies.Â* Plasma has been used for a long time on ill patients, and plasma with covid antibodies already MAKE SENSE! Many of you people here seem to think masks and distancing will defeat or slow down covid, but you've been proven WRONG from the start. A demo showing that masks greatly reduce the spread from the mouth: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbAzUUtqbiU How do they actually know and can prove that wearing masks stops anyone from catching a virus? They make assumptions based on guesses that masks "reduce" the spread from the mouth. Guesses aren't good enough. Guesses are not proof. -- Maggie |
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OT: COVID-19 CONVALESCENT PLASMA FOR TREATMENT OF HOSPITALIZED PATIENTS WITH COVID-19
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I just heard about this particular treatment a few days ago. It sounds promising. Only to fools. Vaccination works much better. ........... *EMERGENCY USE AUTHORIZATION (EUA) OF COVID-19 CONVALESCENT PLASMA FOR TREATMENT OF HOSPITALIZED PATIENTS WITH COVID-19* Read this Fact Sheet for information about COVID-19 convalescent plasma. Talk to your health care provider if you have questions. It is your choice to accept treatment with COVID-19 convalescent plasma or stop it at any time. *WHAT IS COVID-19 CONVALESCENT PLASMA?* The blood from people who recover from COVID-19 contains substances called antibodies, which are capable of fighting the virus that causes the illness. For some other diseases caused by respiratory viruses, giving people the liquid portion of blood that contains these antibodies, called plasma, obtained from those who have recovered from the virus, may lead to more rapid improvement of the disease. Patients with COVID-19 may improve faster if they receive plasma from those who have recovered from COVID-19, because it may have the ability to fight the virus that causes COVID-19. *HOW IS COVID-19 CONVALESCENT PLASMA GIVEN?* You will be given plasma, the liquid portion of the blood, from a person who has recovered from COVID-19. It will be given into one of your veins, using a sterile single use needle, and will be given over the course of up to about one to two hours. Approximately 200 mL (a little less than 8 ounces) of plasma will be given in an initial infusion. Additional infusions of plasma may occur throughout your hospital stay if the treating physician determines that additional treatments are clinically justified. {more} https://www.fda.gov/media/141479/dow...s%20COVID%2D19. -- Maggie |
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OT: COVID-19 CONVALESCENT PLASMA FOR TREATMENT OF HOSPITALIZED PATIENTS WITH COVID-19
Muggles wrote
trader_4 wrote Muggles wrote I just heard about this particular treatment a few days ago. It sounds promising. That figures, most of the rest of us have known about this since summer. It's still winter. That was last summer, stupid. |
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OT: COVID-19 CONVALESCENT PLASMA FOR TREATMENT OF HOSPITALIZEDPATIENTS WITH COVID-19
On 05/02/2021 16:58, Muggles wrote:
On 2/5/2021 10:49 AM, trader_4 wrote: On Friday, February 5, 2021 at 11:41:02 AM UTC-5, Muggles wrote: On 2/5/2021 10:28 AM, Bob F wrote: On 2/5/2021 8:22 AM, Muggles wrote: On 2/5/2021 10:16 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote: On 2/5/2021 10:44 AM, Muggles wrote: *WHAT IS COVID-19 CONVALESCENT PLASMA?* The blood from people who recover from COVID-19 contains substances called antibodies, which are capable of fighting the virus that causes the illness. For some other diseases caused by respiratory viruses, giving people the liquid portion of blood that contains these antibodies, called plasma, obtained from those who have recovered from the virus, may lead to more rapid improvement of the disease. Patients with COVID-19 may improve faster if they receive plasma from those who have recovered from COVID-19, because it may have the ability to fight the virus that causes COVID-19. *HOW IS COVID-19 CONVALESCENT PLASMA GIVEN?* You will be given plasma, the liquid portion of the blood, from a person who has recovered from COVID-19. It will be given into one of your veins, using a sterile single use needle, and will be given over the course of up to about one to two hours. Approximately 200 mL (a little less than 8 ounces) of plasma will be given in an initial infusion. Additional infusions of plasma may occur throughout your hospital stay if the treating physician determines that additional treatments are clinically justified. {more} https://www.fda.gov/media/141479/dow...s%20COVID%2D19. Sounds interesting, thanks. Do you know anyone who has recovered from covid and then donated plasma with antibodies? Yes, one fellow had donated at least twice that I'm aware of. That's great! That will provide people with antibodies which is the main method of our bodies fighting off viruses. Keep researching. Maybe you will find out about a new invention. Something call a vaccination, that gets your body to create it's own antibodies, so you don't have to wait until you get covid, and get it from other people to be able to fight disease. And there is another brilliant invention, called a "mask", that helps reduce disease from passing from an infected person to someone else. Look it up, you might learn something. Masks don't prevent anyone from catching a virus, and there's NO PROOF they help. Another big lie repeated. Nope ... do provide verifiable proof that masks prevent people from catching viruses. They even come with disclaimers that says there are NOT for medical use. Additionally, masks cause many people to get sick! You seem to think masks should be the main prevention, but they don't do squat. You seem incapable of being educated.Â* I never said or implied in any way that masks should be the main prevention method.Â*Â* It's one tool among many. I guess you simply ignore the disclaimers that come on the masks you purchase. They obviously are obviously just covering their backs. |
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OT: COVID-19 CONVALESCENT PLASMA FOR TREATMENT OF HOSPITALIZEDPATIENTS WITH COVID-19
On 2/5/2021 11:35 AM, Rod Speed wrote:
Muggles wrote I just heard about this particular treatment a few days ago.Â* It sounds promising. Only to fools. Vaccination works much better. Tested an vetted vaccines are BETTER because the majority of side effects are well known. Now, those side effects are unknown. ........... *EMERGENCY USE AUTHORIZATION (EUA) OF COVID-19 CONVALESCENT PLASMA FOR TREATMENT OF HOSPITALIZED PATIENTS WITH COVID-19* Read this Fact Sheet for information about COVID-19 convalescent plasma. Talk to your health care provider if you have questions. It is your choice to accept treatment with COVID-19 convalescent plasma or stop it at any time. *WHAT IS COVID-19 CONVALESCENT PLASMA?* The blood from people who recover from COVID-19 contains substances called antibodies, which are capable of fighting the virus that causes the illness. For some other diseases caused by respiratory viruses, giving people the liquid portion of blood that contains these antibodies, called plasma, obtained from those who have recovered from the virus, may lead to more rapid improvement of the disease. Patients with COVID-19 may improve faster if they receive plasma from those who have recovered from COVID-19, because it may have the ability to fight the virus that causes COVID-19. *HOW IS COVID-19 CONVALESCENT PLASMA GIVEN?* You will be given plasma, the liquid portion of the blood, from a person who has recovered from COVID-19. It will be given into one of your veins, using a sterile single use needle, and will be given over the course of up to about one to two hours. Approximately 200 mL (a little less than 8 ounces) of plasma will be given in an initial infusion. Additional infusions of plasma may occur throughout your hospital stay if the treating physician determines that additional treatments are clinically justified. {more} https://www.fda.gov/media/141479/dow...s%20COVID%2D19. -- Maggie -- Maggie |
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OT: COVID-19 CONVALESCENT PLASMA FOR TREATMENT OF HOSPITALIZEDPATIENTS WITH COVID-19
On 2/5/2021 11:38 AM, Rod Speed wrote:
Muggles wrote trader_4 wrote Muggles wrote I just heard about this particular treatment a few days ago. It sounds promising. That figures, most of the rest of us have known about this since summer. It's still winter. That was last summer, stupid. Oh, gee ... I guess he should post what he actually means to say instead of expecting someone to KNOW what he means, huh? -- Maggie |
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OT: COVID-19 CONVALESCENT PLASMA FOR TREATMENT OF HOSPITALIZEDPATIENTS WITH COVID-19
On 2/5/2021 11:46 AM, Bod wrote:
On 05/02/2021 16:58, Muggles wrote: On 2/5/2021 10:49 AM, trader_4 wrote: On Friday, February 5, 2021 at 11:41:02 AM UTC-5, Muggles wrote: On 2/5/2021 10:28 AM, Bob F wrote: On 2/5/2021 8:22 AM, Muggles wrote: On 2/5/2021 10:16 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote: On 2/5/2021 10:44 AM, Muggles wrote: *WHAT IS COVID-19 CONVALESCENT PLASMA?* The blood from people who recover from COVID-19 contains substances called antibodies, which are capable of fighting the virus that causes the illness. For some other diseases caused by respiratory viruses, giving people the liquid portion of blood that contains these antibodies, called plasma, obtained from those who have recovered from the virus, may lead to more rapid improvement of the disease. Patients with COVID-19 may improve faster if they receive plasma from those who have recovered from COVID-19, because it may have the ability to fight the virus that causes COVID-19. *HOW IS COVID-19 CONVALESCENT PLASMA GIVEN?* You will be given plasma, the liquid portion of the blood, from a person who has recovered from COVID-19. It will be given into one of your veins, using a sterile single use needle, and will be given over the course of up to about one to two hours. Approximately 200 mL (a little less than 8 ounces) of plasma will be given in an initial infusion. Additional infusions of plasma may occur throughout your hospital stay if the treating physician determines that additional treatments are clinically justified. {more} https://www.fda.gov/media/141479/dow...s%20COVID%2D19. Sounds interesting, thanks. Do you know anyone who has recovered from covid and then donated plasma with antibodies? Yes, one fellow had donated at least twice that I'm aware of. That's great! That will provide people with antibodies which is the main method of our bodies fighting off viruses. Keep researching. Maybe you will find out about a new invention. Something call a vaccination, that gets your body to create it's own antibodies, so you don't have to wait until you get covid, and get it from other people to be able to fight disease. And there is another brilliant invention, called a "mask", that helps reduce disease from passing from an infected person to someone else. Look it up, you might learn something. Masks don't prevent anyone from catching a virus, and there's NO PROOF they help. Another big lie repeated. Nope ... do provide verifiable proof that masks prevent people from catching viruses. They even come with disclaimers that says there are NOT for medical use. Additionally, masks cause many people to get sick! You seem to think masks should be the main prevention, but they don't do squat. You seem incapable of being educated.Â* I never said or implied in any way that masks should be the main prevention method.Â*Â* It's one tool among many. I guess you simply ignore the disclaimers that come on the masks you purchase. They obviously are obviously just covering their backs. If they worked to prevent the spread of viruses, they would NOT have disclaimers. -- Maggie |
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OT: COVID-19 CONVALESCENT PLASMA FOR TREATMENT OF HOSPITALIZED PATIENTS WITH COVID-19
"Muggles" wrote in message ... On 2/5/2021 9:33 AM, trader_4 wrote: On Friday, February 5, 2021 at 10:15:13 AM UTC-5, Muggles wrote: On 2/5/2021 9:11 AM, trader_4 wrote: On Friday, February 5, 2021 at 9:59:24 AM UTC-5, Muggles wrote: I just heard about this particular treatment a few days ago. It sounds promising. That figures, most of the rest of us have known about this since summer. It's still winter. Then you wonder why I say you're the village idiot. IF you're referring to last summer 2019, Corse he was. all sorts of ideas were being tossed around on how to deal with covid. Masks and distancing seem to be the GO TO method of dealing with it Thats to stop you catching it, not treating it after you are infected, stupid. in the stupid hope that it'll prevent someone from getting sick. Nothing stupid about it, its why those testing to see if you are infected wear masks etc when social distancing isnt possible, stupid. The problem with THAT approach is there is NO way to actually prevent anyone from catching a virus. You can keep repeating that stupid lie till you are blue in the face if you like, changes nothing. Vaccination does just that and is how we stamped out smallpox in the wild are close to doing that with polio too. EVEN getting vaccines is NO guarantee that individual won't still get sick. Vaccination does ensure that almost none of the vaccinated get sick enough to need hospital treatment, at most they just get as sick as you do with the common cold and lots get no sickness at all. Vaccines are supposed to produce antibodies against the virus that causes an illness, but that doesn't always work. Yes, but it does work fine with most people and in fact does that much better than actually catching the virus. Infusing people with antibody plasma that is specifically taken from people who naturally developed antibodies while they recovered from covid has been under the radar and not exactly a topic of discussion. Thats bull****. Its been extensively discussed and extensively tested. Its nowhere near as effective as even the worst vaccines. Do YOU know anyone who has had covid and donated their antibody plasma to save someone else? Irrelevant, what matters is the numbers who have done that. Do you know anyone who has actually been treated with covid antibody plasma? Irrelevant, what matters is the numbers who have done that. We're all going to catch covid at some point BULL****. because you CAN'T hide from viruses. Corse you can and you can get vaccinated to. Not everyone will get sick, and some people will get sick enough to need hospitalization. Not those who have enough of a clue to get vaccinated. Seems to me THIS TREATMENT is a major answer More fool you. Vaccination is a much better answer. - NOT masks or distancing. Yep, you actually are that stupid. |
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On 2/5/2021 11:54 AM, Rod Speed wrote:
"Muggles" wrote in message ... On 2/5/2021 9:33 AM, trader_4 wrote: On Friday, February 5, 2021 at 10:15:13 AM UTC-5, Muggles wrote: On 2/5/2021 9:11 AM, trader_4 wrote: On Friday, February 5, 2021 at 9:59:24 AM UTC-5, Muggles wrote: I just heard about this particular treatment a few days ago. It sounds promising. That figures, most of the rest of us have known about this since summer. It's still winter. Then you wonder why I say you're the village idiot. IF you're referring to last summer 2019, Corse he was. Of course? You mean sometimes people don't say what they actually mean in posts here? Go figure. -- Maggie |
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OT: COVID-19 CONVALESCENT PLASMA FOR TREATMENT OF HOSPITALIZED PATIENTS WITH COVID-19
"Muggles" wrote in message ... On 2/5/2021 10:20 AM, trader_4 wrote: On Friday, February 5, 2021 at 9:59:24 AM UTC-5, Muggles wrote: I just heard about this particular treatment a few days ago. It sounds promising. And in the other thread you say you won't get vaccinated. This treatment has no more testing , probably less at this point, than the vaccines. Go figure. It is a well known established *FACT* that our bodies fight viruses by developing antibodies that stop viruses from replicating. Vaccines are given to people so they will create their own antibodies. Yes, and the vaccines for this virus to that much better than getting infected by the virus, so the plasma treatment you have just discovered isnt anywhere near as good as getting vaccinated. Often vaccines have terrible side effects, Almost never in fact. especially when they haven't been thoroughly tested. Pity these have with the vaccines produced in the west. OTOH, antibody plasma is well known as to what it will do And that it doesnt do that as well as vaccination does. and much lessor potential side effects. That is a pig ignorant lie. There is in fact much more potential for infecting the recipient with what other viruses the plasma donor is also infected with and that can be very serious infections like HIV/AIDS. PLUS, it boosts the person's individual antibody load to fight covid. But vaccines do that much better. An untested vaccine is one thing. None of the vaccines are untested. You take your chances as to whether or not you will have a deadly reaction. But we know that no one has got that. Blood plasma with antibodies that target the actual virus is a well known and effective treatment already. But vaccination does that much better and with no risk of getting a virus from the donor. |
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OT: COVID-19 CONVALESCENT PLASMA FOR TREATMENT OF HOSPITALIZEDPATIENTS WITH COVID-19
On 2/5/2021 12:25 PM, Rod Speed wrote:
"Muggles" wrote in message ... On 2/5/2021 10:20 AM, trader_4 wrote: On Friday, February 5, 2021 at 9:59:24 AM UTC-5, Muggles wrote: I just heard about this particular treatment a few days ago. It sounds promising. And in the other thread you say you won't get vaccinated.Â*Â* This treatment has no more testing , probably less at this point, than the vaccines.Â* Go figure. It is a well known established *FACT* that our bodies fight viruses by developing antibodies that stop viruses from replicating. Vaccines are given to people so they will create their own antibodies. Yes, and the vaccines for this virus to that much better than getting infected by the virus, so the plasma treatment you have just discovered isnt anywhere near as good as getting vaccinated. Tell that to a man who nearly died. He received the plasma treatment and the same day he began feeling better. He'd be leaving today, but he was checked for blood clots in his legs because he's been bed ridden for a while, and they found one. So, he is staying one more day to clot bust it. Vaccines only trigger a person's immune system to create antibodies. That takes time to happen. Infusing antibodies directly into an individual at risk actually WORKS! Vaccines are not guaranteed to work. -- Maggie |
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OT: COVID-19 CONVALESCENT PLASMA FOR TREATMENT OF HOSPITALIZEDPATIENTS WITH COVID-19
On 05/02/2021 18:29, Muggles wrote:
On 2/5/2021 12:25 PM, Rod Speed wrote: "Muggles" wrote in message ... On 2/5/2021 10:20 AM, trader_4 wrote: On Friday, February 5, 2021 at 9:59:24 AM UTC-5, Muggles wrote: I just heard about this particular treatment a few days ago. It sounds promising. And in the other thread you say you won't get vaccinated.Â*Â* This treatment has no more testing , probably less at this point, than the vaccines. Go figure. It is a well known established *FACT* that our bodies fight viruses by developing antibodies that stop viruses from replicating. Vaccines are given to people so they will create their own antibodies. Yes, and the vaccines for this virus to that much better than getting infected by the virus, so the plasma treatment you have just discovered isnt anywhere near as good as getting vaccinated. Tell that to a man who nearly died.Â* He received the plasma treatment and the same day he began feeling better. He'd be leaving today, but he was checked for blood clots in his legs because he's been bed ridden for a while, and they found one.Â* So, he is staying one more day to clot bust it. Vaccines only trigger a person's immune system to create antibodies. That takes time to happen.Â* Infusing antibodies directly into an individual at risk actually WORKS! Vaccines are not guaranteed to work. Are plasma and antibody therapies the next Covid-19? The UK's RECOVERY trial (a much larger study including thousands of people hospitalised with Covid-19) was also testing the potential benefits of receiving convalescent plasma €“ but the trial stopped assigning people to receive this treatment in January 2021 after an early analysis showed that overall it did not help ... https://www.bhf.org.uk/informationsu...s-for-covid-19 |
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OT: COVID-19 CONVALESCENT PLASMA FOR TREATMENT OF HOSPITALIZEDPATIENTS WITH COVID-19
On 2/5/2021 12:36 PM, Bod wrote:
On 05/02/2021 18:29, Muggles wrote: On 2/5/2021 12:25 PM, Rod Speed wrote: "Muggles" wrote in message ... On 2/5/2021 10:20 AM, trader_4 wrote: On Friday, February 5, 2021 at 9:59:24 AM UTC-5, Muggles wrote: I just heard about this particular treatment a few days ago. It sounds promising. And in the other thread you say you won't get vaccinated.Â*Â* This treatment has no more testing , probably less at this point, than the vaccines. Go figure. It is a well known established *FACT* that our bodies fight viruses by developing antibodies that stop viruses from replicating. Vaccines are given to people so they will create their own antibodies. Yes, and the vaccines for this virus to that much better than getting infected by the virus, so the plasma treatment you have just discovered isnt anywhere near as good as getting vaccinated. Tell that to a man who nearly died.Â* He received the plasma treatment and the same day he began feeling better. He'd be leaving today, but he was checked for blood clots in his legs because he's been bed ridden for a while, and they found one.Â* So, he is staying one more day to clot bust it. Vaccines only trigger a person's immune system to create antibodies. That takes time to happen.Â* Infusing antibodies directly into an individual at risk actually WORKS! Vaccines are not guaranteed to work. Are plasma and antibody therapies the next Covid-19? The UK's RECOVERY trial (a much larger study including thousands of people hospitalised with Covid-19) was also testing the potential benefits of receiving convalescent plasma €“ but the trial stopped assigning people to receive this treatment in January 2021 after an early analysis showed that overall it did not help ... https://www.bhf.org.uk/informationsu...s-for-covid-19 They're wrong. It actually reversed a major covid infection in the man I mentioned. -- Maggie |
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OT: COVID-19 CONVALESCENT PLASMA FOR TREATMENT OF HOSPITALIZEDPATIENTS WITH COVID-19
On 05/02/2021 18:39, Muggles wrote:
On 2/5/2021 12:36 PM, Bod wrote: On 05/02/2021 18:29, Muggles wrote: On 2/5/2021 12:25 PM, Rod Speed wrote: "Muggles" wrote in message ... On 2/5/2021 10:20 AM, trader_4 wrote: On Friday, February 5, 2021 at 9:59:24 AM UTC-5, Muggles wrote: I just heard about this particular treatment a few days ago. It sounds promising. And in the other thread you say you won't get vaccinated.Â*Â* This treatment has no more testing , probably less at this point, than the vaccines. Go figure. It is a well known established *FACT* that our bodies fight viruses by developing antibodies that stop viruses from replicating. Vaccines are given to people so they will create their own antibodies. Yes, and the vaccines for this virus to that much better than getting infected by the virus, so the plasma treatment you have just discovered isnt anywhere near as good as getting vaccinated. Tell that to a man who nearly died.Â* He received the plasma treatment and the same day he began feeling better. He'd be leaving today, but he was checked for blood clots in his legs because he's been bed ridden for a while, and they found one.Â* So, he is staying one more day to clot bust it. Vaccines only trigger a person's immune system to create antibodies. That takes time to happen.Â* Infusing antibodies directly into an individual at risk actually WORKS! Vaccines are not guaranteed to work. Are plasma and antibody therapies the next Covid-19? The UK's RECOVERY trial (a much larger study including thousands of people hospitalised with Covid-19) was also testing the potential benefits of receiving convalescent plasma €“ but the trial stopped assigning people to receive this treatment in January 2021 after an early analysis showed that overall it did not help ... https://www.bhf.org.uk/informationsu...s-for-covid-19 They're wrong.Â* It actually reversed a major covid infection in the man I mentioned. JEEZ! |
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OT: COVID-19 CONVALESCENT PLASMA FOR TREATMENT OF HOSPITALIZED PATIENTS WITH COVID-19
"Muggles" wrote in message ... On 2/5/2021 10:16 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote: On 2/5/2021 10:44 AM, Muggles wrote: *WHAT IS COVID-19 CONVALESCENT PLASMA?* The blood from people who recover from COVID-19 contains substances called antibodies, which are capable of fighting the virus that causes the illness. For some other diseases caused by respiratory viruses, giving people the liquid portion of blood that contains these antibodies, called plasma, obtained from those who have recovered from the virus, may lead to more rapid improvement of the disease. Patients with COVID-19 may improve faster if they receive plasma from those who have recovered from COVID-19, because it may have the ability to fight the virus that causes COVID-19. *HOW IS COVID-19 CONVALESCENT PLASMA GIVEN?* You will be given plasma, the liquid portion of the blood, from a person who has recovered from COVID-19. It will be given into one of your veins, using a sterile single use needle, and will be given over the course of up to about one to two hours. Approximately 200 mL (a little less than 8 ounces) of plasma will be given in an initial infusion. Additional infusions of plasma may occur throughout your hospital stay if the treating physician determines that additional treatments are clinically justified. {more} https://www.fda.gov/media/141479/dow...s%20COVID%2D19. Sounds interesting, thanks. Do you know anyone who has recovered from covid and then donated plasma with antibodies? Yes, one fellow had donated at least twice that I'm aware of. That's great! That will provide people with antibodies The vaccines do that much better and much more cheaply and much more safely. which is the main method of our bodies fighting off viruses. |
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OT: COVID-19 CONVALESCENT PLASMA FOR TREATMENT OF HOSPITALIZED PATIENTS WITH COVID-19
"trader_4" wrote in message ... On Friday, February 5, 2021 at 9:59:24 AM UTC-5, Muggles wrote: I just heard about this particular treatment a few days ago. It sounds promising. And in the other thread you say you won't get vaccinated. Nope, that was someone else. This treatment has no more testing , probably less at this point, than the vaccines. And much more risk of catching something from the donor. Go figure. |
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