In article ,
Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Huge wrote:
On 2017-01-18, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Huge wrote:
On 2017-01-17, Chris Bartram wrote:
On 17/01/17 17:04, Huge wrote:
On 2017-01-17, Clive George wrote:
On 17/01/2017 15:38, Tim Watts wrote:

It makes me laugh when I see the vinyl record hipster stores -
because half the people buying vinyl probably have a POS toy
turntable with a cheap ceramic cartridge, unbalanced turntable with
all the wow and flutter possible, unbalanced arm and rubbish
pre-amp.

I dunno - IME people who can be arsed with vinyl also tend to be
arsed about getting a decent amp/turntable/speakers.

[FX]Waves


I reckon the market is split: people who will go out and buy a
half-decent turntable etc (or better), and the ones doing it for
fashion..

I'm still using the turntable I bought 40 years ago.

Likewise. A Thorens TD150. But nearer 50 years ago here.

Same model.

Brings back memories. I didn't buy it new myself, although it was new.

Came from a deceased estate sale.

A complete Quad II stereo setup including AM tuner, a Garrard 301 with
Decca pickup, and a pair of Tannoy GRF speakers. The Quads. etc in a
cabinet. Included were a near new Revox A77 and the Thorens TD150, SME arm
and Decca cartridge. Those being unused, waiting to be fitted.

All for 300 quid in the late '60s. The estate valuer had got things rather
wrong IMHO.

That's about the time I got my second-Hand A77 Mk1 for £180.

--
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On 18/01/17 14:07, pamela wrote:
On 11:16 18 Jan 2017, Mike Tomlinson wrote:

En el artículo , Huge
escribió:

Likewise. A Thorens TD150. But nearer 50 years ago here.

Same model.

Can you still get the cartridges for it?


I gave my nephew an old turntable with Shure M75ED cartridge and he
was able to order a German lookalike stylus. I don't think there are
any other moving parts than the cantilever and its rubber mounting
which are now new.


The M75ED was a notable cartridge being mostly forgiving of muck, dust
and remains of 70s hair cream(!) on records (that could now do with a wash).

That on a Pioneer PL-12D was a popular budget combination long ago, I
had both in the 70s - and now I have another courtesy of a recent boot
sale grab. There is a large collection of PL-12D vids on youtube for
some reason ;-)

Mine has a bit of a mechanically conducted motor hum, I'll need to fix
sometime. Stylus fine though.

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things of similar vintage and before.

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"pamela" wrote in message
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On 08:49 18 Jan 2017, dennis@home wrote:

On 18/01/2017 02:20, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

Nope. The problem with digital MP3 is not the sample rate, its
the digital compression that is applied.

Its not lossless.



Well people don't knowwhat MP3 stands for. Its MPEG layer 3
audio. It was always lossy and designed to fit videos onto CDs
and DVDs not for hifi. They soon dropped it when bluray arrived
and went for master audio which is uncompressed.


I don't mind the trade off between the size of an MP3 file and
quality.

I seem to recall a 128kps MP3 is about a tenth of the size of a
WAV/PCM and the sound isn't quite as awful as some people suggest.

As storage gets cheaper file size will be less important but at
the moment I baulk at storing FLAC files on a portable device.

Absolutely, I really only listen to music in the car, mp3 is even too good
for that

In article ,
charles wrote:
A complete Quad II stereo setup including AM tuner, a Garrard 301 with
Decca pickup, and a pair of Tannoy GRF speakers. The Quads. etc in a
cabinet. Included were a near new Revox A77 and the Thorens TD150, SME
arm and Decca cartridge. Those being unused, waiting to be fitted.

All for 300 quid in the late '60s. The estate valuer had got things
rather wrong IMHO.

That's about the time I got my second-Hand A77 Mk1 for £180.

Sounds about right. If you could get a genuine trade order from some form
of manufacturing company, you could buy a so called pro version without
purchase tax from the importer, Hammond. For about £180. Only real
difference was the NAB reel adaptors were screwed in place, and the screw
heads covered. A work of a moment to remove them. I bought my second one
that way - but a high speed version with power amps built in.

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To e-mail, change noise into sound.

In article ,
pamela wrote:
Yes. It's something many choose to ignore. You almost never hear
the master tape as it left the studio. That goes through a
different mastering process for vinyl and CD and maybe even for
downloads. And most you hear via a broadcast has been processed
too.


Not forgetting radio edits and DJ mixes.

I guess these versions are mostly out of the control of the artist.

Yes - the mastering process usually is. Hence the rather frequent common
from some artists that 'it didn't sound like that in the studio'.

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Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

On Wed, 18 Jan 2017 16:37:19 +0000, pamela wrote:

On 15:37 18 Jan 2017, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

In article ,
pamela wrote:
Yes. It's something many choose to ignore. You almost never hear the
master tape as it left the studio. That goes through a different
mastering process for vinyl and CD and maybe even for downloads. And
most you hear via a broadcast has been processed too.


Not forgetting radio edits and DJ mixes.

I guess these versions are mostly out of the control of the artist.

Yes - the mastering process usually is. Hence the rather frequent
common from some artists that 'it didn't sound like that in the
studio'.


You sound as if you speak from hearing that at first hand. Did you work
in music recording at some time?

LOL. See Dave's sig, as well. But you weren't to know, to be fair.

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In article ,
Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
charles wrote:
A complete Quad II stereo setup including AM tuner, a Garrard 301 with
Decca pickup, and a pair of Tannoy GRF speakers. The Quads. etc in a
cabinet. Included were a near new Revox A77 and the Thorens TD150, SME
arm and Decca cartridge. Those being unused, waiting to be fitted.

All for 300 quid in the late '60s. The estate valuer had got things
rather wrong IMHO.

That's about the time I got my second-Hand A77 Mk1 for £180.

Sounds about right. If you could get a genuine trade order from some form
of manufacturing company, you could buy a so called pro version without
purchase tax from the importer, Hammond. For about £180. Only real
difference was the NAB reel adaptors were screwed in place, and the screw
heads covered. A work of a moment to remove them. I bought my second one
that way - but a high speed version with power amps built in.

I built my own power amps, copying - by eye - the PCBs in a machine on the
desk at work. The A77 I bought was on sale because the vendor had
discovered there was a Mk2 and he had to have it. I carried out one of the
improvements (changing one of the guide posts for a roller bearing) and
ignored the rest.

--
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On 18/01/2017 13:52, Max Demian wrote:

Mantra Audio http://www.mantra-audio.co.uk/ have a good selection of
styli available if anyone requires one. And cartridges.


£22 for a stylus for mine. 8-0

On 18/01/2017 13:51, pamela wrote:
8

I don't mind the trade off between the size of an MP3 file and
quality.

I seem to recall a 128kps MP3 is about a tenth of the size of a
WAV/PCM and the sound isn't quite as awful as some people suggest.

MP3 music is awful, it gives me a headache to listen to it, really.


As storage gets cheaper file size will be less important but at
the moment I baulk at storing FLAC files on a portable device.


Why? I have 128GB on my phone. You can get decent storage at a sensible
price unless you want an apple logo.

On 18/01/17 18:45, dennis@home wrote:
On 18/01/2017 13:51, pamela wrote:
8

I don't mind the trade off between the size of an MP3 file and
quality.

I seem to recall a 128kps MP3 is about a tenth of the size of a
WAV/PCM and the sound isn't quite as awful as some people suggest.

MP3 music is awful, it gives me a headache to listen to it, really.

I find it tolerable on small, cheap speakers or in the car, unpleasant
on good speakers or headphones, but this varies with bitrate.


As storage gets cheaper file size will be less important but at
the moment I baulk at storing FLAC files on a portable device.


Why? I have 128GB on my phone. You can get decent storage at a sensible
price unless you want an apple logo.

On Wednesday, 18 January 2017 18:39:46 UTC, dennis@home wrote:
On 18/01/2017 13:52, Max Demian wrote:

Mantra Audio http://www.mantra-audio.co.uk/ have a good selection of
styli available if anyone requires one. And cartridges.


£22 for a stylus for mine. 8-0

Ronette crystal flipover record scraper £30. Surely rock bottom gramophones aren't worth that much now.

Not much Shure stuff there.


NT

In article ,
pamela wrote:
On 15:37 18 Jan 2017, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

In article ,
pamela wrote:
Yes. It's something many choose to ignore. You almost never
hear the master tape as it left the studio. That goes through
a different mastering process for vinyl and CD and maybe even
for downloads. And most you hear via a broadcast has been
processed too.


Not forgetting radio edits and DJ mixes.

I guess these versions are mostly out of the control of the
artist.

Yes - the mastering process usually is. Hence the rather
frequent common from some artists that 'it didn't sound like
that in the studio'.


You sound as if you speak from hearing that at first hand. Did
you work in music recording at some time?

I worked in TV production sound all my life. So only had limited direct
experience of the commercial recording industry. But did have plenty of
experience in our very nice 24 track studio recording music for TV use.

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In article ,
pamela wrote:
I recall Dave was an audio engineer for the BBC or something like
that which involves a lot of voice work rather than recording music
albums in a studio.

I latterly spent most of my time doing location drama. Sadly, as a
freelance, you tend to have to take the work you can get. And tend to be
pigeonholed as being good (or otherwise ;-)) at that.
But in staff days at both the BBC and ITV I was fortunate to work on just
about every type of programme.

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Johnny B Good wrote:

For the more sceptical of us that are, however, interested enough to
learn more about 'digital audio', there is a very nice "Digital Show &
Tell" video on this page: https://xiph.org/video/vid2.shtml which
demonstrates the whole analogue to digital to analogue processes in a
straight forward no-nonsense and entertaining manner

A fascinating video, thanks for the link. I hadn't really studied
the subject, but certainly found the conclusions interesting.

Chris
--
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Plant amazing Acers.

On 18/01/2017 18:51, wrote:
On Wednesday, 18 January 2017 18:39:46 UTC, dennis@home wrote:
On 18/01/2017 13:52, Max Demian wrote:

Mantra Audio http://www.mantra-audio.co.uk/ have a good selection of
styli available if anyone requires one. And cartridges.


£22 for a stylus for mine. 8-0

Ronette crystal flipover record scraper £30. Surely rock bottom gramophones aren't worth that much now.

Not much Shure stuff there.

M95ED.

Not likely to get used a new belt for the turntable is £20.
Its just a big O ring.

I wonder if it would work sat directly on top of a big stepper motor.

Hm? 400 steps / rev, 32 microsteps.
About 6.4 kHz.
Probably a bit of audio in there. 8-(

On Wednesday, 18 January 2017 22:11:46 UTC, dennis@home wrote:
On 18/01/2017 18:51, tabbypurr wrote:
On Wednesday, 18 January 2017 18:39:46 UTC, dennis@home wrote:
On 18/01/2017 13:52, Max Demian wrote:

Mantra Audio http://www.mantra-audio.co.uk/ have a good selection of
styli available if anyone requires one. And cartridges.


£22 for a stylus for mine. 8-0

Ronette crystal flipover record scraper £30. Surely rock bottom gramophones aren't worth that much now.

Not much Shure stuff there.

M95ED.

I liked the V15 best, and the 55E for cost conscious jobs. No carts or styli for those there.

Not likely to get used a new belt for the turntable is £20.
Its just a big O ring.

I once tried some haberdashery elastic with the ends overlapped & superglued on a PL12D. Crude but perfectly effective in practice.

I wonder if it would work sat directly on top of a big stepper motor.

Hm? 400 steps / rev, 32 microsteps.
About 6.4 kHz.
Probably a bit of audio in there. 8-(

and a ton of vibration.


NT

dennis@home wrote:

I wonder if it would work sat directly on top of a big stepper motor.

You still have a physical connection between your motor and turntable? A
bit old hat, isn't it :-P

https://maglevaudio.com

On Thursday, 19 January 2017 04:43:41 UTC, Andy Burns wrote:
dennis@home wrote:

I wonder if it would work sat directly on top of a big stepper motor.

You still have a physical connection between your motor and turntable? A
bit old hat, isn't it :-P

https://maglevaudio.com

I don't think belt drive has ever been bettered. Some would disagree, direct drive gives more constant speed, but the variations of a competently executed belt drive are below human detection.


NT

On 19/01/2017 06:16, wrote:
On Thursday, 19 January 2017 04:43:41 UTC, Andy Burns wrote:
dennis@home wrote:

I wonder if it would work sat directly on top of a big stepper motor.

You still have a physical connection between your motor and turntable? A
bit old hat, isn't it :-P

https://maglevaudio.com


Seems to wobble when the platter is nudged - in a completely undamped
way (at about 30s of the 'How it Works' vid). Apart from arm
resonance/stylus vibration, I'd have thought movement in the plinth
would transfer to the platter?


I don't think belt drive has ever been bettered. Some would disagree, direct drive gives more constant speed, but the variations of a competently executed belt drive are below human detection.


I'm very susceptible to speed variation - I can hear the wow of
sustained piano note in virtually any belt drive turntable for example.
A top end Ariston was one of the few that 'worked' for me. I find
un-Lingo'd Linns very hard to listen to.

I use a Technics DD turntable nowadays - although I don't listen to
vinyl that much.


--
Cheers, Rob

On 19/01/2017 04:44, Andy Burns wrote:
dennis@home wrote:

I wonder if it would work sat directly on top of a big stepper motor.

You still have a physical connection between your motor and turntable? A
bit old hat, isn't it :-P

https://maglevaudio.com

Wouldn't a laser reading the grouve instead of a physical needle be more
to the point? Or do you need a physical needle to plough through the
muck in the grouve?

Of course, it's been done:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phonograph#Optical_readout

Linear tracking was another fun idea that never caught on:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phonograph#Linear_tracking

--
Max Demian

On 19/01/17 10:45, Max Demian wrote:
On 19/01/2017 04:44, Andy Burns wrote:
dennis@home wrote:

I wonder if it would work sat directly on top of a big stepper motor.

You still have a physical connection between your motor and turntable? A
bit old hat, isn't it :-P

https://maglevaudio.com

Wouldn't a laser reading the grouve instead of a physical needle be more
to the point? Or do you need a physical needle to plough through the
muck in the grouve?

Of course, it's been done:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phonograph#Optical_readout

Linear tracking was another fun idea that never caught on:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phonograph#Linear_tracking

My deck is linear tracking. And very good it is too.

I got given it because it proved to be no good for disk jockeys...


--
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"Saki"

In article ,
wrote:
On Thursday, 19 January 2017 04:43:41 UTC, Andy Burns wrote:
dennis@home wrote:

I wonder if it would work sat directly on top of a big stepper motor.

You still have a physical connection between your motor and turntable? A
bit old hat, isn't it :-P

https://maglevaudio.com

I don't think belt drive has ever been bettered. Some would disagree, direct drive gives more constant speed, but the variations of a competently executed belt drive are below human detection.


The problem with direct drive is preventing stray fields having some form
of influence on the cartridge. Even if not directly audible.

--
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To e-mail, change noise into sound.

In article ,
RJH wrote:
I'm very susceptible to speed variation - I can hear the wow of
sustained piano note in virtually any belt drive turntable for example.
A top end Ariston was one of the few that 'worked' for me. I find
un-Lingo'd Linns very hard to listen to.

Are you certain that 'wow' isn't on the record? The cutting lathe has to
have just as consistent speed as the turntable. And then there is the
centring of the hole.

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On 19/01/2017 11:17, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
wrote:
On Thursday, 19 January 2017 04:43:41 UTC, Andy Burns wrote:
dennis@home wrote:

I wonder if it would work sat directly on top of a big stepper motor.

You still have a physical connection between your motor and turntable? A
bit old hat, isn't it :-P

https://maglevaudio.com

I don't think belt drive has ever been bettered. Some would disagree, direct drive gives more constant speed, but the variations of a competently executed belt drive are below human detection.


The problem with direct drive is preventing stray fields having some form
of influence on the cartridge. Even if not directly audible.


Mines a lump of metal so if I 3D printed a stepper motor disk and
mounted it on the underside and then put the coils on the underside it
would be well shielded.

It shouldn't take much to put say 64 magnets underneath and add a couple
of coils to drive it from an arduino nano.

Here is a crude stepper someone has done.

http://www.instructables.com/id/3D-P...Stepper-Motor/

Maybe I'll make a roundtoit one day.

On Thursday, 19 January 2017 11:27:26 UTC, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
RJH wrote:
I'm very susceptible to speed variation - I can hear the wow of
sustained piano note in virtually any belt drive turntable for example.
A top end Ariston was one of the few that 'worked' for me. I find
un-Lingo'd Linns very hard to listen to.

Are you certain that 'wow' isn't on the record?

Maybe he hasn't any Bow wow wow records
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBN1...ypmohoESGzxdHE



The cutting lathe has to
have just as consistent speed as the turntable. And then there is the
centring of the hole.

I;ve often wonder whether there;s much differnce between the makers pressing the vinyl from RCA to polydor or whoever.
I have some flexidiscs which are pretty crap, coloured & picture discs some 1980s that are thicker than the norm, then there's 12" imports and 7" and 10" EP I have a bat shaped 7' too.

I'm not convinced they are all of the same manufacting quality or material quality so I;'m not sure if there really is one quality for vinly and of course digital is MP3(various bit rates) ACC, wav, AIFF, FLAC, Apple lossless
etc...

On 17/01/17 15:33, Huge wrote:

BTW, uk.rec.audio is still quite active.


Thanks. Just subbed back in there and very quickly remembered why I
unsubbed those years back.

However, I happily note in thunderbird it's possible to set up a
references filter to ignore the subthread from someones direct responses
to another poster whom which they don't get on with, but leave their
other posts unaffected.

It works

--
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In article
,
says...


Linear tracking was another fun idea that never caught on:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phonograph#Linear_tracking

It was quite popular with the BBC at one time although they
seemed to prefer the term Parallel Tracking.

http://www.orbem.co.uk/grams/grams_1.htm

--

Terry

In article ,
Terry Casey wrote:
In article
,
says...


Linear tracking was another fun idea that never caught on:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phonograph#Linear_tracking

It was quite popular with the BBC at one time although they
seemed to prefer the term Parallel Tracking.

http://www.orbem.co.uk/grams/grams_1.htm

Yes - but only for 78s. And wear on the records not likely so important as
for domestic use.

The obvious problem is the extra friction parallel tracking involves. Only
when servo assistance came along was it more practical - like with the B&O
turntable.

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To e-mail, change noise into sound.

On 18/01/2017 10:58, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
RJH wrote:
Yes, good point. I've bought a bunch of CDs to replace/supplement vinyl,
and been very disappointed. The worst a set of Hendrix re-releases on CD.

When you get to love an LP - including all its quirks - a far better
quality transcription of the source heard much later can often disappoint.


Yes, agreed. But these did sound especially terrible - ISTR the release
was slated in the press too.

--
Cheers, Rob

En el artículo ,
escribió:

It was an odd question.

By 'cartridge' I meant the stylus/needle, or whatever the correct term
is. These do wear out and need replacing from time to time, don't they?

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En el artículo , Dave Plowman (News)
escribió:

Most quality cartridges can have a new stylus fitted. Sometimes a
specialist job.

Thank you, that was what I meant.

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On Monday, 23 January 2017 01:58:18 UTC, Mike Tomlinson wrote:
En el artÃ*culo ,
tabbypurr escribió:

It was an odd question.

By 'cartridge' I meant the stylus/needle, or whatever the correct term
is. These do wear out and need replacing from time to time, don't they?

Replace when they cause distortion or a microscope shows damage. They should last years. More or less all cartridges take a press-fit needle assembly, it's only expensive oddities that don't.


NT

On Tuesday, 17 January 2017 14:28:30 UTC, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
charles wrote:
In article . com,
dennis@home wrote:
On 17/01/2017 12:41, DerbyBorn wrote:
at one time with turntables we used to study specifications looking at
Wow and Flutter, Rumble and other characterisitics.

You can now buy a turntable for about £50 to output to a MP3 file.

Not worth it when you can just download an MP3. I consider it just a
legal to do so as recording the record. Neither will get you into
trouble.

is my entire LP collection available on MP3? even if it were, it would
cost me quite a lot to duplicate music that I already have.

I'm surprised by the number of folk who have got rid of their record
playing equipment, but kept all their LPs. My niece's hubby is one such.
Given how much space LPs take to store. He was apparently getting one of
these USB turntables for Xmas so he could digitize his LP collection.

I bet he never does it.
It takes forever.

On 23/01/2017 05:29, wrote:
On Monday, 23 January 2017 01:58:18 UTC, Mike Tomlinson wrote:
En el artÃ*culo ,
tabbypurr escribió:

It was an odd question.

By 'cartridge' I meant the stylus/needle, or whatever the correct term
is.

Generally, the user would replace the cartridge. Standard fit (1/2")
moving magnet cartridges from £20. Exceptions do exist - Dual, for
example, had a phase of using a form of cassette fitting. Even that
could be adapted to take the 1/2" standard.

I do remember, just, when replacing a stylus was quite common - but that
applied to ceramic type cartridges IIRC, and not many of those about now.


--
Cheers, Rob

On Monday, 23 January 2017 08:20:26 UTC, RJH wrote:
On 23/01/2017 05:29, tabbypurr
On Monday, 23 January 2017 01:58:18 UTC, Mike Tomlinson wrote:
En el artÃ*culo ,
tabbypurr escribió:

It was an odd question.

By 'cartridge' I meant the stylus/needle, or whatever the correct term
is.

Generally, the user would replace the cartridge. Standard fit (1/2")
moving magnet cartridges from £20. Exceptions do exist - Dual, for
example, had a phase of using a form of cassette fitting. Even that
could be adapted to take the 1/2" standard.

I do remember, just, when replacing a stylus was quite common - but that
applied to ceramic type cartridges IIRC, and not many of those about now.

no.

On Mon, 23 Jan 2017 08:20:23 +0000, RJH wrote:

On 23/01/2017 05:29, wrote:
On Monday, 23 January 2017 01:58:18 UTC, Mike Tomlinson wrote:
En el artÃ*culo
,
tabbypurr escribió:

It was an odd question.

By 'cartridge' I meant the stylus/needle, or whatever the correct term
is.

Generally, the user would replace the cartridge. Standard fit (1/2")
moving magnet cartridges from £20. Exceptions do exist - Dual, for
example, had a phase of using a form of cassette fitting. Even that
could be adapted to take the 1/2" standard.

I do remember, just, when replacing a stylus was quite common - but that
applied to ceramic type cartridges IIRC, and not many of those about
now.

No. I used to work in a place that sold a lot of cheap-to-medium hi-fi
(and some quite good stuff). We sold a *lot* of 'bare' styli, for all
sorts of cartridges from piezo up to moving iron.

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On 23/01/2017 05:29, wrote:
On Monday, 23 January 2017 01:58:18 UTC, Mike Tomlinson wrote:
En el artÃ*culo ,
tabbypurr escribió:

It was an odd question.

By 'cartridge' I meant the stylus/needle, or whatever the correct term
is. These do wear out and need replacing from time to time, don't they?

Replace when they cause distortion or a microscope shows damage. They should last years. More or less all cartridges take a press-fit needle assembly, it's only expensive oddities that don't.

I used to use the sibilants from the 12" version of Orinoco Flow to
check the stylus, but I don't think my hearing is up to it now (loss of
high frequencies).

--
Max Demian

Max Demian wrote:

I used to use the sibilants from the 12" version of Orinoco Flow to
check the stylus, but I don't think my hearing is up to it now (loss of
high frequencies).

I remember, back in the 60s, wondering what I should adjust on my
first audio system to reduce the sibilance I was experiencing
listening to my Ralph McTell LP.

Next time I saw him live, and acoustic, I realised that the
problem was the source.

Chris
--
Chris J Dixon Nottingham UK


Plant amazing Acers.

On Wed, 18 Jan 2017 00:47:20 +0000 (GMT), "Dave Plowman (News)"
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Huge wrote:
On 2017-01-17, Chris Bartram wrote:
On 17/01/17 17:04, Huge wrote:
On 2017-01-17, Clive George wrote:
On 17/01/2017 15:38, Tim Watts wrote:

It makes me laugh when I see the vinyl record hipster stores -
because half the people buying vinyl probably have a POS toy
turntable with a cheap ceramic cartridge, unbalanced turntable with
all the wow and flutter possible, unbalanced arm and rubbish
pre-amp.

I dunno - IME people who can be arsed with vinyl also tend to be
arsed about getting a decent amp/turntable/speakers.

[FX]Waves


I reckon the market is split: people who will go out and buy a
half-decent turntable etc (or better), and the ones doing it for
fashion..

I'm still using the turntable I bought 40 years ago.

Likewise. A Thorens TD150. But nearer 50 years ago here.


My turntable is a Dual 1228 (c1974) with a Dynavector 20A cartridge.
I've got a Stanton cartridge but don't recall why I swapped it out.

I'm in the midst of a slow processing of digitising all my analogue
and CDs. So far I've done all the reel to reel, cassettes and some
CDs. When I say "done" they are Audacity projects and not fully
labelled or output.

I have a USB sound card which is attached to the line out on the
amplifier, so anything that I play I can capture.

I've not done any vinyl yet. I suspect that I'll need to wash quite a
few of them.

I haven't seen anyone comment on the USB sound card approach other
than to suggest 44,1kHz isn't enough. I'm in my 70th year so I doubt
than anything lost will be noticeable.

There seems to be a problem with Audacity outputting to AAC in that
the Artist tag goes missing which doesn't happen with mp3. I don't
think I can justify wav but I'll be keeping the Audacity project file
anyway.

Another issue I've noted is that the last track on some CDs goes
beyond the end of the music to the end of the disk giving me a big
file with much silence. Not sure if this is a CD problem or ripping
software problem.

Tips and comments welcomed.




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AnthonyL

On Tuesday, 24 January 2017 13:04:51 UTC, AnthonyL wrote:

My turntable is a Dual 1228 (c1974) with a Dynavector 20A cartridge.
I've got a Stanton cartridge but don't recall why I swapped it out.

I remember a couple of Stanton models being not that great sound wise, just robust enough for djing.

I'm in the midst of a slow processing of digitising all my analogue
and CDs. So far I've done all the reel to reel, cassettes and some
CDs. When I say "done" they are Audacity projects and not fully
labelled or output.

When audacity changes version you may find none of your hard work is accessible any more. DAMHIKT.

I have a USB sound card which is attached to the line out on the
amplifier, so anything that I play I can capture.

I've not done any vinyl yet. I suspect that I'll need to wash quite a
few of them.

I'm told PVA works

I haven't seen anyone comment on the USB sound card approach other
than to suggest 44,1kHz isn't enough. I'm in my 70th year so I doubt
than anything lost will be noticeable.

There seems to be a problem with Audacity outputting to AAC in that
the Artist tag goes missing which doesn't happen with mp3. I don't
think I can justify wav but I'll be keeping the Audacity project file
anyway.

Another issue I've noted is that the last track on some CDs goes
beyond the end of the music to the end of the disk giving me a big
file with much silence. Not sure if this is a CD problem or ripping
software problem.

Tips and comments welcomed.

Digitising takes too long. It's far quicker to just repair the metallised bit on the 8 track.


NT