A while back, I was dragging a culvert behind my tractor. It caught on a
concrete lip, stood straight up, then tipped over on my better half's car
hood.
She was not impressed.

OK, now I've bought a like new hood from the salvage yard, and she just got
a quote for $500 to paint it. That ain't gonna happen.

I'm pretty good at painting tractors and other equipment. Enough to know the
key is preparation. What steps should be taken to paint this hood? (I know
it has a clear coat over the white color, I need red with a clear coat) If I
don't get it right, the boss will just take it in.

Karl

"Karl Townsend" wrote: (clip) She was not impressed.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
But her hood was.
(clip) Enough to know the key is preparation. (clip)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
The key to durability and good adhesion is preparation. The key to
satisfying *her* is smooth application. No runs. No orange peel. This
hood is right in front of her eyes whenever she drives the car. Is she the
kind of person who will look at a tiny bubble on one corner of the hood and
become increasingly irritated?

"Leo Lichtman" wrote in message
...

"Karl Townsend" wrote: (clip) She was not impressed.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
But her hood was.
(clip) Enough to know the key is preparation. (clip)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
The key to durability and good adhesion is preparation. The key to
satisfying *her* is smooth application. No runs. No orange peel. This
hood is right in front of her eyes whenever she drives the car. Is she
the kind of person who will look at a tiny bubble on one corner of the
hood and become increasingly irritated?

I made the mistake of blaming her for parking in front of the weld shop
entrance. What do you think?

Karl

On Nov 24, 3:01*pm, "Karl Townsend"
wrote:
A while back, I was dragging a culvert behind my tractor. It caught on a
concrete lip, stood straight up, then tipped over on my better half's car
hood.
She was not impressed.

OK, now I've bought a like new hood from the salvage yard, and she just got
a quote for $500 to paint it. That ain't gonna happen.

I'm pretty good at painting tractors and other equipment. Enough to know the
key is preparation. What steps should be taken to paint this hood? (I know
it has a clear coat over the white color, I need red with a clear coat) If I
don't get it right, the boss will just take it in.

Karl

When a panel is painted by itself the likelihood of it matching the
adjacent panels is nil. The typical method is to blend into the
surrounding panels, hence the $500.

I made the mistake of blaming her for parking in front of the weld shop
entrance. What do you think?

Karl

Well Karl, now you're screwed. Lets see, if you paint it, it'll cost
$200.00 plus lots of time sanding.
Then you have to pay $500.00 to make her happy. She's going to take it
in to be painted anyway. Now it cost $700.00. LOL.

Actually, you should make sure the wax is gone. So purchase a wax
remover.
Rough sand 220 grit dry. Fill all the little dings with spot putty and
sand some more. Do that until it is perfect.
Spray Primer Sealer. No sanding the sealer, put the color right over
it.
Spray Color coat / Clear coat combination.
I used to buy Deltron color coat / clear coat from Ditzler. It sprays
like lacquer. Don't know if it's still available.
Have you got an air dryer? Moisture is terrible.

Karl Townsend wrote:
A while back, I was dragging a culvert behind my tractor. It caught on a
concrete lip, stood straight up, then tipped over on my better half's car
hood.
She was not impressed.

OK, now I've bought a like new hood from the salvage yard, and she just got
a quote for $500 to paint it. That ain't gonna happen.

I'm pretty good at painting tractors and other equipment. Enough to know the
key is preparation. What steps should be taken to paint this hood? (I know
it has a clear coat over the white color, I need red with a clear coat) If I
don't get it right, the boss will just take it in.

Karl



Take it in anyway.
BC/CC red is going to cost you about 150 for the paint, Then you can
plan on scuffing the hood, fenders and posts on the car. Then mask it
off and shoot it. You need to do this because just painting the hood
won't work. You have to shoot the hood and then blend the new paint into
the old so it doesn't show. Even then anyone who has real experience
with painting will know it has been painted. That is because red is a
BIT%^ to match in many cases. Also you will NEVER match the factory
paint exactly. Why? because your not a robot shooting with an
electrostatic gun.

If a shop does it, they do the work, they also guarantee the work.

--
Steve W.
Near Cooperstown, New York

Karl Townsend wrote:
"Leo Lichtman" wrote in message
...
"Karl Townsend" wrote: (clip) She was not impressed.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
But her hood was.
(clip) Enough to know the key is preparation. (clip)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
The key to durability and good adhesion is preparation. The key to
satisfying *her* is smooth application. No runs. No orange peel. This
hood is right in front of her eyes whenever she drives the car. Is she
the kind of person who will look at a tiny bubble on one corner of the
hood and become increasingly irritated?

I made the mistake of blaming her for parking in front of the weld shop
entrance. What do you think?

I think you just ****ed her off a second time.

Been there, done that.

Karl Townsend wrote:
A while back, I was dragging a culvert behind my tractor. It caught on a
concrete lip, stood straight up, then tipped over on my better half's car
hood.
She was not impressed.

OK, now I've bought a like new hood from the salvage yard, and she just got
a quote for $500 to paint it. That ain't gonna happen.

I'm pretty good at painting tractors and other equipment. Enough to know the
key is preparation. What steps should be taken to paint this hood? (I know
it has a clear coat over the white color, I need red with a clear coat) If I
don't get it right, the boss will just take it in.

Karl


I suggest you broaden your search and find a hood the right color. even
shipping it in from out of state would save you money.
I've done this several times with good results.

Karl Townsend wrote:

A while back, I was dragging a culvert behind my tractor. It caught on a
concrete lip, stood straight up, then tipped over on my better half's car
hood.
She was not impressed.

OK, now I've bought a like new hood from the salvage yard, and she just got
a quote for $500 to paint it. That ain't gonna happen.

I'm pretty good at painting tractors and other equipment. Enough to know the
key is preparation. What steps should be taken to paint this hood? (I know
it has a clear coat over the white color, I need red with a clear coat) If I
don't get it right, the boss will just take it in.

Karl

Check with your local tech schools that have an auto body program, they
are known for doing affordable paint jobs so they have vehicles for the
students to practice on. I've seen a few vehicles painted this way and
the results were good.

On Mon, 24 Nov 2008 14:01:53 -0600, the infamous "Karl Townsend"
scrawled the following:

A while back, I was dragging a culvert behind my tractor. It caught on a
concrete lip, stood straight up, then tipped over on my better half's car
hood.
She was not impressed.

OK, now I've bought a like new hood from the salvage yard, and she just got
a quote for $500 to paint it. That ain't gonna happen.

I got a $3,500-$4,000 quote to paint my old '90 F-150 the same color a
couple years ago. thud


I'm pretty good at painting tractors and other equipment. Enough to know the
key is preparation. What steps should be taken to paint this hood? (I know
it has a clear coat over the white color, I need red with a clear coat) If I
don't get it right, the boss will just take it in.

I was a wrench in a body shop for 5 years and hung out with the
painter most slow days. Here's his method:

UNDERSIDE: scuff, clean to pristine, paint. (top stripped first)

TOPSIDE: Strip to bare metal, clean to pristine, prime, fill any tiny
dings, sand, prime, sand, prime, paint, rub out, second coat
(optional), rub out, clearcoat, rub out. Wait at least a month, add
sealant/wax.

You're damned lucky it's not a metalflake, Karl.

Ask several local body shops "How much to spray it if -I- prep it?"
Prolly $200 with paint, so go for it. It's a bitch to do right.

---
Tomorrow is the most important thing in life. Comes into us at midnight
very clean. It's perfect when it arrives and it puts itself in our hands.
It hopes we've learned something from yesterday.
--John Wayne (1907 - 1979)

YOUR WASTING YOUR TIME .ONLY WAY TO GET IT RIGHT IS PAINT THE WHOLE CAR.

sal

"Karl Townsend" wrote in message
anews.com...
A while back, I was dragging a culvert behind my tractor. It caught on a
concrete lip, stood straight up, then tipped over on my better half's car
hood.
She was not impressed.

OK, now I've bought a like new hood from the salvage yard, and she just
got a quote for $500 to paint it. That ain't gonna happen.

I'm pretty good at painting tractors and other equipment. Enough to know
the key is preparation. What steps should be taken to paint this hood? (I
know it has a clear coat over the white color, I need red with a clear
coat) If I don't get it right, the boss will just take it in.

Karl

On Mon, 24 Nov 2008 14:01:53 -0600, "Karl Townsend"
wrote:

A while back, I was dragging a culvert behind my tractor. It caught on a
concrete lip, stood straight up, then tipped over on my better half's car
hood.
She was not impressed.

OK, now I've bought a like new hood from the salvage yard, and she just got
a quote for $500 to paint it. That ain't gonna happen.

I'm pretty good at painting tractors and other equipment. Enough to know the
key is preparation. What steps should be taken to paint this hood? (I know
it has a clear coat over the white color, I need red with a clear coat) If I
don't get it right, the boss will just take it in.

Karl

You won't save much (if any) doing it yourself. You will need:
DA sander
sanding discs in various grits
respirator, NIOSH rated for urethane and epoxy paints
two-part epoxy primer
highbuild primer, like Kondar
reducer for the highbuild primer
wetordry paper, 400 grit to wetsand the high-build
sealer like DAS1980
base coat in the right color. red is among the most expensive
correct reducer for the basecoat
clearcoat
clearcoat catalyst
correct reducer for the clearcoat

On Mon, 24 Nov 2008 12:20:44 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

On Nov 24, 3:01Â*pm, "Karl Townsend"
wrote:
A while back, I was dragging a culvert behind my tractor. It caught on a
concrete lip, stood straight up, then tipped over on my better half's car
hood.
She was not impressed.

OK, now I've bought a like new hood from the salvage yard, and she just got
a quote for $500 to paint it. That ain't gonna happen.

I'm pretty good at painting tractors and other equipment. Enough to know the
key is preparation. What steps should be taken to paint this hood? (I know
it has a clear coat over the white color, I need red with a clear coat) If I
don't get it right, the boss will just take it in.

Karl

When a panel is painted by itself the likelihood of it matching the
adjacent panels is nil. The typical method is to blend into the
surrounding panels, hence the $500.

And blended paint jobs look like crap 6 months later. For a full
panel, like a hood, I say paint it OFF THE CAR, and install it after
the paint is fully hardened. Wet sand with 2500 grit and polish and if
you got the right paint it will match. Use a slow reducer on metalics
to let the flake lie down.

"Karl Townsend" wrote in message
anews.com...
A while back, I was dragging a culvert behind my tractor. It caught on a
concrete lip, stood straight up, then tipped over on my better half's car
hood.
She was not impressed.

OK, now I've bought a like new hood from the salvage yard, and she just
got
a quote for $500 to paint it. That ain't gonna happen.

I'm pretty good at painting tractors and other equipment. Enough to know
the
key is preparation. What steps should be taken to paint this hood? (I know
it has a clear coat over the white color, I need red with a clear coat) If
I
don't get it right, the boss will just take it in.

Karl




When I have small jobs like painting a door handle, I go to the auto paint
place and get an aerosol can of the paint to the paint number on the car.
So far I have only used the single stage paint, but it is also available in
base coat / clear coat. I have had good luck with this but I have only done
door handles so take this with a grain of salt.

I get the handles prime coated so what I do is clean them with acetone, then
I lightly sand them with some wet 400 grit and rinse in clear water. When
dry I wipe any dust off with a tack rag and spray several light coats to
avoid the drips and runs.

I have a cardboard box set up to hang the part while drying so no dust
settles on the drying paint. You might be able to section off a corner of
the barn with plastic and wet it down to make a makeshift spray booth.

You might want to buy one can as a color match test to see if the new paint
will match with the old paint before you spend a ton on the project.

Another alternative is to attach the white hood and then take it to one of
those places that repaint whole cars for a couple of hundred bucks. That
way if the hue is a little off from the original color, it is off evenly
over the whole car.

On Mon, 24 Nov 2008 17:02:40 -0600, "sal" wrote:

YOUR WASTING YOUR TIME .ONLY WAY TO GET IT RIGHT IS PAINT THE WHOLE CAR.

sal

Or to buy a used hood from the wrecking yard, which is exactly what Id
do.

Gunner


"Karl Townsend" wrote in message
tanews.com...
A while back, I was dragging a culvert behind my tractor. It caught on a
concrete lip, stood straight up, then tipped over on my better half's car
hood.
She was not impressed.

OK, now I've bought a like new hood from the salvage yard, and she just
got a quote for $500 to paint it. That ain't gonna happen.

I'm pretty good at painting tractors and other equipment. Enough to know
the key is preparation. What steps should be taken to paint this hood? (I
know it has a clear coat over the white color, I need red with a clear
coat) If I don't get it right, the boss will just take it in.

Karl




"They couldn't hit an elephant at this dist..."
Maj. Gen. John Sedgewick, killed by a sniper in 1864 at the battle of Spotsylvania

"Karl Townsend" wrote in message
anews.com...
A while back, I was dragging a culvert behind my tractor. It caught on a
concrete lip, stood straight up, then tipped over on my better half's car
hood.
She was not impressed.

OK, now I've bought a like new hood from the salvage yard, and she just
got a quote for $500 to paint it. That ain't gonna happen.

I'm pretty good at painting tractors and other equipment. Enough to know
the key is preparation. What steps should be taken to paint this hood? (I
know it has a clear coat over the white color, I need red with a clear
coat) If I don't get it right, the boss will just take it in.

Karl


Basically, clear-coat is not a DIY process. Some of the materials are quite
toxic and fussy about mixing and application. You will need it to be
professionally done if it is to look satisfactory. Be sure that your
insurance will not help. You could have specified a correct color hood when
you bought it and may be able to get an exchange. Otherwise, pay up and
charge it to "Education and Training".

Don Young

OK, everybody, you convinced me, I'll pay up.

Let me tell you the whole story.

Several years ago, I was putting a new drain valve on a low spot in my
irrigation line and I didn't have the correct gate valve. So, I sent my
better half to town to get what she could find and ended up installing a POS
Chinese one from the discount store. (This is four feet under ground and
reached by putting a vertical pipe over the handle and then a stick and
fork)

Well, just before freeze up, I try to drain the line and the handle broke
off. No big deal, I get the back hoe to dig it out. BUT, I for got the line
Tee from the main four feet at this header and I hit the main with the
backhoe and bust it all up. Now I'm in trouble. It took week to get the
parts, about $400 worth. it rained in the mean time and the hole was a slimy
mess. I turned out I had to dig the line up for thirty feet in the mud and
most of it by hand. I ended up spending four days on the job. it was so
muddy, that I couldn't use the loader to push the dirt back in the hole, the
tractor just would spin the rear tires.

The drain Valve I got, didn't look that much better, so I said, I'll put a
four foot culvert down to it. Nice and large, keep the valve handle out in
the open. I hook a chain on to the culvert and drive back to the shop. The
kid has parked his car where I should go, the wife has parked eight feet to
the other side. I'm a slime ball mess, so I try driving the tractor right
between the cars. I should have looked back sooner, that culvert caught on
the concrete lip and stood straight up. It must have taken 15 seconds before
it started tipping over, of course directly at her car.

Then I made my biggest mistake, I blamed her for parking all her stuff in
front of my shop.

We had turned in a total loss to insurance a year ago and a fender bender
shortly before that. So, I shopped for a used hood thinking I could just
paint it myself. I'm worried the company will jack out rates for being
accident prone.

Anyway, that ten dollar valve is costing about $1200 to replace and about
four days of the most awful work you could ever do. Plus, the wife will tell
this story for years.

Karl

On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 06:04:25 -0600, the infamous "Karl Townsend"
scrawled the following:

OK, everybody, you convinced me, I'll pay up.

Let me tell you the whole story.

Several years ago, I was putting a new drain valve on a low spot in my
irrigation line and I didn't have the correct gate valve. So, I sent my
better half to town to get what she could find and ended up installing a POS
Chinese one from the discount store. (This is four feet under ground and
reached by putting a vertical pipe over the handle and then a stick and
fork)

Well, just before freeze up, I try to drain the line and the handle broke
off. No big deal, I get the back hoe to dig it out. BUT, I for got the line
Tee from the main four feet at this header and I hit the main with the
backhoe and bust it all up. Now I'm in trouble. It took week to get the
parts, about $400 worth. it rained in the mean time and the hole was a slimy
mess. I turned out I had to dig the line up for thirty feet in the mud and
most of it by hand. I ended up spending four days on the job. it was so
muddy, that I couldn't use the loader to push the dirt back in the hole, the
tractor just would spin the rear tires.

The drain Valve I got, didn't look that much better, so I said, I'll put a
four foot culvert down to it. Nice and large, keep the valve handle out in
the open. I hook a chain on to the culvert and drive back to the shop. The
kid has parked his car where I should go, the wife has parked eight feet to
the other side. I'm a slime ball mess, so I try driving the tractor right
between the cars. I should have looked back sooner, that culvert caught on
the concrete lip and stood straight up. It must have taken 15 seconds before
it started tipping over, of course directly at her car.

Then I made my biggest mistake, I blamed her for parking all her stuff in
front of my shop.

We had turned in a total loss to insurance a year ago and a fender bender
shortly before that. So, I shopped for a used hood thinking I could just
paint it myself. I'm worried the company will jack out rates for being
accident prone.

Anyway, that ten dollar valve is costing about $1200 to replace and about
four days of the most awful work you could ever do. Plus, the wife will tell
this story for years.

And you had the balls to ask about painting her hood...after all
_that_?

Atta Boy! bseg

---
Tomorrow is the most important thing in life. Comes into us at midnight
very clean. It's perfect when it arrives and it puts itself in our hands.
It hopes we've learned something from yesterday.
--John Wayne (1907 - 1979)

On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 06:04:25 -0600, "Karl Townsend"
wrote:

OK, everybody, you convinced me, I'll pay up.

Let me tell you the whole story.

Several years ago, I was putting a new drain valve on a low spot in my
irrigation line and I didn't have the correct gate valve. So, I sent my
better half to town to get what she could find and ended up installing a POS
Chinese one from the discount store. (This is four feet under ground and
reached by putting a vertical pipe over the handle and then a stick and
fork)

Well, just before freeze up, I try to drain the line and the handle broke
off. No big deal, I get the back hoe to dig it out. BUT, I for got the line
Tee from the main four feet at this header and I hit the main with the
backhoe and bust it all up. Now I'm in trouble. It took week to get the
parts, about $400 worth. it rained in the mean time and the hole was a slimy
mess. I turned out I had to dig the line up for thirty feet in the mud and
most of it by hand. I ended up spending four days on the job. it was so
muddy, that I couldn't use the loader to push the dirt back in the hole, the
tractor just would spin the rear tires.

The drain Valve I got, didn't look that much better, so I said, I'll put a
four foot culvert down to it. Nice and large, keep the valve handle out in
the open. I hook a chain on to the culvert and drive back to the shop. The
kid has parked his car where I should go, the wife has parked eight feet to
the other side. I'm a slime ball mess, so I try driving the tractor right
between the cars. I should have looked back sooner, that culvert caught on
the concrete lip and stood straight up. It must have taken 15 seconds before
it started tipping over, of course directly at her car.

Then I made my biggest mistake, I blamed her for parking all her stuff in
front of my shop.

We had turned in a total loss to insurance a year ago and a fender bender
shortly before that. So, I shopped for a used hood thinking I could just
paint it myself. I'm worried the company will jack out rates for being
accident prone.

Anyway, that ten dollar valve is costing about $1200 to replace and about
four days of the most awful work you could ever do. Plus, the wife will tell
this story for years.

Karl

Don't they always?
Gerry :-)}
London, Canada

DA it down to factory primer level. Primer coat, then DA to 220. Ready
to paint. Wet sand the color layer 600-1000. Shoot clear.
JR
Dweller in the cellar

Karl Townsend wrote:
A while back, I was dragging a culvert behind my tractor. It caught on a
concrete lip, stood straight up, then tipped over on my better half's car
hood.
She was not impressed.

OK, now I've bought a like new hood from the salvage yard, and she just got
a quote for $500 to paint it. That ain't gonna happen.

I'm pretty good at painting tractors and other equipment. Enough to know the
key is preparation. What steps should be taken to paint this hood? (I know
it has a clear coat over the white color, I need red with a clear coat) If I
don't get it right, the boss will just take it in.

Karl



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On Nov 24, 2:01*pm, "Karl Townsend"
wrote:
A while back, I was dragging a culvert behind my tractor. It caught on a
concrete lip, stood straight up, then tipped over on my better half's car
hood.
She was not impressed.

OK, now I've bought a like new hood from the salvage yard, and she just got
a quote for $500 to paint it. That ain't gonna happen.

I'm pretty good at painting tractors and other equipment. Enough to know the
key is preparation. What steps should be taken to paint this hood? (I know
it has a clear coat over the white color, I need red with a clear coat) If I
don't get it right, the boss will just take it in.

Karl

The money spent painting the hood might be more wisely used to do a
search of salvage yards that have the correct color of hood in stock.

Dennis

Karl Townsend wrote:
OK, everybody, you convinced me, I'll pay up.

Let me tell you the whole story.

Several years ago, I was putting a new drain valve on a low spot in my
irrigation line and I didn't have the correct gate valve. So, I sent my
better half to town to get what she could find and ended up installing a POS
Chinese one from the discount store. (This is four feet under ground and
reached by putting a vertical pipe over the handle and then a stick and
fork)

Well, just before freeze up, I try to drain the line and the handle broke
off. No big deal, I get the back hoe to dig it out. BUT, I for got the line
Tee from the main four feet at this header and I hit the main with the
backhoe and bust it all up. Now I'm in trouble. It took week to get the
parts, about $400 worth. it rained in the mean time and the hole was a slimy
mess. I turned out I had to dig the line up for thirty feet in the mud and
most of it by hand. I ended up spending four days on the job. it was so
muddy, that I couldn't use the loader to push the dirt back in the hole, the
tractor just would spin the rear tires.

The drain Valve I got, didn't look that much better, so I said, I'll put a
four foot culvert down to it. Nice and large, keep the valve handle out in
the open. I hook a chain on to the culvert and drive back to the shop. The
kid has parked his car where I should go, the wife has parked eight feet to
the other side. I'm a slime ball mess, so I try driving the tractor right
between the cars. I should have looked back sooner, that culvert caught on
the concrete lip and stood straight up. It must have taken 15 seconds before
it started tipping over, of course directly at her car.

Then I made my biggest mistake, I blamed her for parking all her stuff in
front of my shop.

We had turned in a total loss to insurance a year ago and a fender bender
shortly before that. So, I shopped for a used hood thinking I could just
paint it myself. I'm worried the company will jack out rates for being
accident prone.

Anyway, that ten dollar valve is costing about $1200 to replace and about
four days of the most awful work you could ever do. Plus, the wife will tell
this story for years.

Sounds like an exceptional run of bad luck. Hope you get a break soon!

Chris

On Thu, 27 Nov 2008 08:26:35 +0000, Christopher Tidy
wrote:

Karl Townsend wrote:
OK, everybody, you convinced me, I'll pay up.

Let me tell you the whole story.

Several years ago, I was putting a new drain valve on a low spot in my
irrigation line and I didn't have the correct gate valve. So, I sent my
better half to town to get what she could find and ended up installing a POS
Chinese one from the discount store. (This is four feet under ground and
reached by putting a vertical pipe over the handle and then a stick and
fork)

Well, just before freeze up, I try to drain the line and the handle broke
off. No big deal, I get the back hoe to dig it out. BUT, I for got the line
Tee from the main four feet at this header and I hit the main with the
backhoe and bust it all up. Now I'm in trouble. It took week to get the
parts, about $400 worth. it rained in the mean time and the hole was a slimy
mess. I turned out I had to dig the line up for thirty feet in the mud and
most of it by hand. I ended up spending four days on the job. it was so
muddy, that I couldn't use the loader to push the dirt back in the hole, the
tractor just would spin the rear tires.

The drain Valve I got, didn't look that much better, so I said, I'll put a
four foot culvert down to it. Nice and large, keep the valve handle out in
the open. I hook a chain on to the culvert and drive back to the shop. The
kid has parked his car where I should go, the wife has parked eight feet to
the other side. I'm a slime ball mess, so I try driving the tractor right
between the cars. I should have looked back sooner, that culvert caught on
the concrete lip and stood straight up. It must have taken 15 seconds before
it started tipping over, of course directly at her car.

Then I made my biggest mistake, I blamed her for parking all her stuff in
front of my shop.

We had turned in a total loss to insurance a year ago and a fender bender
shortly before that. So, I shopped for a used hood thinking I could just
paint it myself. I'm worried the company will jack out rates for being
accident prone.

Anyway, that ten dollar valve is costing about $1200 to replace and about
four days of the most awful work you could ever do. Plus, the wife will tell
this story for years.

Sounds like an exceptional run of bad luck. Hope you get a break soon!

Chris


Sounds like that old hillbilly song: "If it wasn't for the bad luck,
I'd have no luck at all"

I think it originally came from an old Irish or Gaelic saying.

On Thu, 27 Nov 2008 21:14:14 -0500, the infamous
scrawled the following:

On Thu, 27 Nov 2008 08:26:35 +0000, Christopher Tidy
wrote:

Karl Townsend wrote:
OK, everybody, you convinced me, I'll pay up.

Let me tell you the whole story.

--snippage of the houndawg blues--

Sounds like an exceptional run of bad luck. Hope you get a break soon!

Sounds like that old hillbilly song: "If it wasn't for the bad luck,
I'd have no luck at all"

I think it originally came from an old Irish or Gaelic saying.

Nah, it was an excellent song from the blues/rock band Cream.

By booker t. jones and william bell
Lyrics:

Born under a bad sign.
I've been down since I began to crawl.
If it wasn't for bad luck,
I wouldn't have no luck at all.

Bad luck and troubles my only friend.
I've been down ever since I was ten.

Chorus

You know, wine and women is all I crave.
A big bad woman's gonna carry me to my grave.

Chorus

First verse

Born under a bad sign.
I've been down since I began to crawl.
If it wasn't for bad luck,
I wouldn't have no luck.
If it wasn't for real bad luck,
I wouldnt have no luck at all.

Born under a bad sign.
Born under a bad sign.

http://mog.com/music/Cream/The_Very_...der_a_Bad_Sign

--
Our greatest glory is not in never falling, but in getting up every time we do.
-- Confucius

On Thu, 27 Nov 2008 18:37:57 -0800, Larry Jaques
wrote:

On Thu, 27 Nov 2008 21:14:14 -0500, the infamous
scrawled the following:

On Thu, 27 Nov 2008 08:26:35 +0000, Christopher Tidy
wrote:

Karl Townsend wrote:
OK, everybody, you convinced me, I'll pay up.

Let me tell you the whole story.

--snippage of the houndawg blues--

Sounds like an exceptional run of bad luck. Hope you get a break soon!

Sounds like that old hillbilly song: "If it wasn't for the bad luck,
I'd have no luck at all"

I think it originally came from an old Irish or Gaelic saying.

Nah, it was an excellent song from the blues/rock band Cream.

By booker t. jones and william bell
Lyrics:

Born under a bad sign.
I've been down since I began to crawl.
If it wasn't for bad luck,
I wouldn't have no luck at all.

Bad luck and troubles my only friend.
I've been down ever since I was ten.

Chorus

You know, wine and women is all I crave.
A big bad woman's gonna carry me to my grave.

Chorus

First verse

Born under a bad sign.
I've been down since I began to crawl.
If it wasn't for bad luck,
I wouldn't have no luck.
If it wasn't for real bad luck,
I wouldnt have no luck at all.

Born under a bad sign.
Born under a bad sign.

http://mog.com/music/Cream/The_Very_...der_a_Bad_Sign


And best done by Pat Travers.

Ut ho, spoke against a god.
Kinda like saying something critical about the Packers up here.

On Fri, 28 Nov 2008 06:34:22 -0600, the infamous Sunworshipper
Sunworshipper scrawled the following:

On Thu, 27 Nov 2008 18:37:57 -0800, Larry Jaques
wrote:

On Thu, 27 Nov 2008 21:14:14 -0500, the infamous
scrawled the following:

On Thu, 27 Nov 2008 08:26:35 +0000, Christopher Tidy
wrote:

Karl Townsend wrote:
OK, everybody, you convinced me, I'll pay up.

Let me tell you the whole story.

--snippage of the houndawg blues--

Sounds like an exceptional run of bad luck. Hope you get a break soon!

Sounds like that old hillbilly song: "If it wasn't for the bad luck,
I'd have no luck at all"

I think it originally came from an old Irish or Gaelic saying.

Nah, it was an excellent song from the blues/rock band Cream.

By booker t. jones and william bell
Lyrics:

Born under a bad sign.
I've been down since I began to crawl.
If it wasn't for bad luck,
I wouldn't have no luck at all.

Bad luck and troubles my only friend.
I've been down ever since I was ten.

Chorus

You know, wine and women is all I crave.
A big bad woman's gonna carry me to my grave.

Chorus

First verse

Born under a bad sign.
I've been down since I began to crawl.
If it wasn't for bad luck,
I wouldn't have no luck.
If it wasn't for real bad luck,
I wouldnt have no luck at all.

Born under a bad sign.
Born under a bad sign.

http://mog.com/music/Cream/The_Very_...der_a_Bad_Sign


And best done by Pat Travers.

Ut ho, spoke against a god.
Kinda like saying something critical about the Packers up here.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5epHRXgVNE If this is the recording
of which you speak, I disagree, but it's an interesting rendition.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdltH...eature=related I've always
liked Alvin Lee a bit better, though.

--
In all affairs it's a healthy thing now and then to hang a
question mark on the things you have long taken for granted.
-- Bertrand Russell

On Fri, 28 Nov 2008 05:42:38 -0800, Larry Jaques
wrote:

On Fri, 28 Nov 2008 06:34:22 -0600, the infamous Sunworshipper
Sunworshipper scrawled the following:

On Thu, 27 Nov 2008 18:37:57 -0800, Larry Jaques
wrote:

On Thu, 27 Nov 2008 21:14:14 -0500, the infamous
scrawled the following:

On Thu, 27 Nov 2008 08:26:35 +0000, Christopher Tidy
wrote:

Karl Townsend wrote:
OK, everybody, you convinced me, I'll pay up.

Let me tell you the whole story.

--snippage of the houndawg blues--

Sounds like an exceptional run of bad luck. Hope you get a break soon!

Sounds like that old hillbilly song: "If it wasn't for the bad luck,
I'd have no luck at all"

I think it originally came from an old Irish or Gaelic saying.

Nah, it was an excellent song from the blues/rock band Cream.

By booker t. jones and william bell
Lyrics:

Born under a bad sign.
I've been down since I began to crawl.
If it wasn't for bad luck,
I wouldn't have no luck at all.

Bad luck and troubles my only friend.
I've been down ever since I was ten.

Chorus

You know, wine and women is all I crave.
A big bad woman's gonna carry me to my grave.

Chorus

First verse

Born under a bad sign.
I've been down since I began to crawl.
If it wasn't for bad luck,
I wouldn't have no luck.
If it wasn't for real bad luck,
I wouldnt have no luck at all.

Born under a bad sign.
Born under a bad sign.

http://mog.com/music/Cream/The_Very_...der_a_Bad_Sign


And best done by Pat Travers.

Ut ho, spoke against a god.
Kinda like saying something critical about the Packers up here.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5epHRXgVNE If this is the recording
of which you speak, I disagree, but it's an interesting rendition.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdltH...eature=related I've always
liked Alvin Lee a bit better, though.


Hmmm, seen him 3 times in concert and never heard that version. I'm
pretty sure what I'm talking about is on Crash n Burn 1980, studio
version. My stuff is still packed, the 3'X4'X5' crate of LP's is right
there and I have no room for a turn table even if I could find the box
of electronics.

I wish I had just a hood to fix for the witch. You should see building
a house, she can be down right unreasonable. Oh, and I hear about why
is the shop bigger than the house every week. LOL

On Fri, 28 Nov 2008 08:53:43 -0600, the infamous Sunworshipper
Sunworshipper scrawled the following:

And best done by Pat Travers.

Ut ho, spoke against a god.
Kinda like saying something critical about the Packers up here.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5epHRXgVNE If this is the recording
of which you speak, I disagree, but it's an interesting rendition.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdltH...eature=related I've always
liked Alvin Lee a bit better, though.


Hmmm, seen him 3 times in concert and never heard that version. I'm
pretty sure what I'm talking about is on Crash n Burn 1980, studio
version. My stuff is still packed, the 3'X4'X5' crate of LP's is right
there and I have no room for a turn table even if I could find the box
of electronics.

I brought 3 medium moving boxes of my LPs with me and have listened to
only half a dozen of them in 6 years. It's time to part with them.
Unfortunately, most of them were stolen by a friend's brother and half
hit the mud when he took them out of his van that rainy day. I'll be
lucky to get $20 out of them, even with the Hendrix album. My largest
loss was the original Captain Beyond album with one of the very first
laser-etched overlays on the front cover. Cha Ching!


I wish I had just a hood to fix for the witch. You should see building
a house, she can be down right unreasonable. Oh, and I hear about why
is the shop bigger than the house every week. LOL

'Cuz it'll be your doghouse, too? Awwwwwwwww, you'd hate that,
wouldn't you? giggle

I'm happy to have a shop with attached house, but I can hardly get
into the shop any more. I need to build another outbuilding for all
the non-shop "stuff" I have. Or maybe I should just build one as a
metal shop so I can keep my woodshop closer and drier. I do more
woodwork than metalwork.

The Siskiyou Woodworker's Guild has a show going on in Ashland this
weekend and I just returned from it (via HFT.) Very nice stuff,
indeed. One guy said he wished he'd had a dozen of the little
intarsiaed chests he built. The only one he built sold at the asking
price ($2,800) within the first 15 minutes of the show. Every surface
was concave. Pics on request.

--
In all affairs it's a healthy thing now and then to hang a
question mark on the things you have long taken for granted.
-- Bertrand Russell

On Fri, 28 Nov 2008 13:38:43 -0800, Larry Jaques
wrote:

On Fri, 28 Nov 2008 08:53:43 -0600, the infamous Sunworshipper
Sunworshipper scrawled the following:

And best done by Pat Travers.

Ut ho, spoke against a god.
Kinda like saying something critical about the Packers up here.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5epHRXgVNE If this is the recording
of which you speak, I disagree, but it's an interesting rendition.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdltH...eature=related I've always
liked Alvin Lee a bit better, though.


Hmmm, seen him 3 times in concert and never heard that version. I'm
pretty sure what I'm talking about is on Crash n Burn 1980, studio
version. My stuff is still packed, the 3'X4'X5' crate of LP's is right
there and I have no room for a turn table even if I could find the box
of electronics.

I brought 3 medium moving boxes of my LPs with me and have listened to
only half a dozen of them in 6 years. It's time to part with them.
Unfortunately, most of them were stolen by a friend's brother and half
hit the mud when he took them out of his van that rainy day. I'll be
lucky to get $20 out of them, even with the Hendrix album. My largest
loss was the original Captain Beyond album with one of the very first
laser-etched overlays on the front cover. Cha Ching!

That sucks, but like I've said before, it is nice to collect
metalworking machines cause no one can walk off with them. My Lp's
aren't in good shape , but I have tons of stuff ya don't hear or find
that often. I kind of like hearing scratches on usb flash drives.

I wish I had just a hood to fix for the witch. You should see building
a house, she can be down right unreasonable. Oh, and I hear about why
is the shop bigger than the house every week. LOL

'Cuz it'll be your doghouse, too? Awwwwwwwww, you'd hate that,
wouldn't you? giggle

That's right... Gonna cast me into the briar patch, eh? That is how I
get into the most trouble, by spending too much time there.

I'm happy to have a shop with attached house, but I can hardly get
into the shop any more. I need to build another outbuilding for all
the non-shop "stuff" I have. Or maybe I should just build one as a
metal shop so I can keep my woodshop closer and drier. I do more
woodwork than metalwork.

Got to have a detached, too much noise and late at night. The uncle
that is helping me do all this wants to bring all his wood working
stuff over and still kinda apprehensive about that from what I've read
here, but hell lots of space form the moment it is put up. At least
they don't have sand storms up here, what's a little fine saw dust
compared.

The Siskiyou Woodworker's Guild has a show going on in Ashland this
weekend and I just returned from it (via HFT.) Very nice stuff,
indeed. One guy said he wished he'd had a dozen of the little
intarsiaed chests he built. The only one he built sold at the asking
price ($2,800) within the first 15 minutes of the show. Every surface
was concave. Pics on request.

I plan on building cedar furniture. I know a guy with lots of huge
trees. Mater of fact I'm running out of time to go visit again to see
if we can cut some down, it's still fall isn't it? The ground is
starting to freeze so it might be a great time now to get into a cedar
swamp with a tractor. I've only built water beds out of 2- 3" X 7" per
side, but I bet I could make some cool stuff if I put my mind to it.

I'd love to see pictures. sounds like something I wouldn't spend the
time on, but hey, might give me some ideas.

On Fri, 28 Nov 2008 17:09:33 -0600, the infamous Sunworshipper
Sunworshipper scrawled the following:

that often. I kind of like hearing scratches on usb flash drives.

You're one sick puppy.


I wish I had just a hood to fix for the witch. You should see building
a house, she can be down right unreasonable. Oh, and I hear about why
is the shop bigger than the house every week. LOL

'Cuz it'll be your doghouse, too? Awwwwwwwww, you'd hate that,
wouldn't you? giggle

That's right... Gonna cast me into the briar patch, eh? That is how I
get into the most trouble, by spending too much time there.

I'm happy to have a shop with attached house, but I can hardly get
into the shop any more. I need to build another outbuilding for all
the non-shop "stuff" I have. Or maybe I should just build one as a
metal shop so I can keep my woodshop closer and drier. I do more
woodwork than metalwork.


Got to have a detached, too much noise and late at night. The uncle
that is helping me do all this wants to bring all his wood working
stuff over and still kinda apprehensive about that from what I've read
here, but hell lots of space form the moment it is put up. At least
they don't have sand storms up here, what's a little fine saw dust
compared.

I'm single, so I could possibly work whenever, but I don't want to
make too much noise and upset the non-dog owner neighbors.

I can carve, plane, or mortise wood at all hours, though, with quiet
hand tools. The polyurethane mallet for carving is quiet and very
nice to use. I guess that sharpening is quiet, too.


The Siskiyou Woodworker's Guild has a show going on in Ashland this
weekend and I just returned from it (via HFT.) Very nice stuff,
indeed. One guy said he wished he'd had a dozen of the little
intarsiaed chests he built. The only one he built sold at the asking
price ($2,800) within the first 15 minutes of the show. Every surface
was concave. Pics on request.

I plan on building cedar furniture. I know a guy with lots of huge

I have a cubic meter of Jarrah wood from Australia. the only things
I've built with it so far are 1) a Weather Rock tripod stand for DOD
and 2) a top for my carving bench.


trees. Mater of fact I'm running out of time to go visit again to see
if we can cut some down, it's still fall isn't it? The ground is
starting to freeze so it might be a great time now to get into a cedar
swamp with a tractor. I've only built water beds out of 2- 3" X 7" per
side, but I bet I could make some cool stuff if I put my mind to it.

Skillsets and patience (hard) can be learned, but finding the time to
do it all is what nixes it for most people. I don't watch TV or have
a family, so I have all the time in the world. g What am I doing on
this infernal box, then? sigh


I'd love to see pictures. sounds like something I wouldn't spend the
time on, but hey, might give me some ideas.

Get me a valid email address and I'll send some over. Fix my domain
name above with a "v" and use the picture of the one you find online.
I truly hate spam, and I've received 9 of the @#$%^ Pedi Paws spams
today alone.

--
In all affairs it's a healthy thing now and then to hang a
question mark on the things you have long taken for granted.
-- Bertrand Russell

Sunworshipper wrote:


I think it originally came from an old Irish or Gaelic saying.
Nah, it was an excellent song from the blues/rock band Cream.

By booker t. jones and william bell
Lyrics:

Born under a bad sign.
I've been down since I began to crawl.
If it wasn't for bad luck,
I wouldn't have no luck at all.

Bad luck and troubles my only friend.
I've been down ever since I was ten.

Chorus

You know, wine and women is all I crave.
A big bad woman's gonna carry me to my grave.

Chorus

First verse

Born under a bad sign.
I've been down since I began to crawl.
If it wasn't for bad luck,
I wouldn't have no luck.
If it wasn't for real bad luck,
I wouldnt have no luck at all.

Born under a bad sign.
Born under a bad sign.

http://mog.com/music/Cream/The_Very_...der_a_Bad_Sign

And best done by Pat Travers.

Ut ho, spoke against a god.
Kinda like saying something critical about the Packers up here.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5epHRXgVNE If this is the recording
of which you speak, I disagree, but it's an interesting rendition.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdltH...eature=related I've always
liked Alvin Lee a bit better, though.


Hmmm, seen him 3 times in concert and never heard that version. I'm
pretty sure what I'm talking about is on Crash n Burn 1980, studio
version. My stuff is still packed, the 3'X4'X5' crate of LP's is right
there and I have no room for a turn table even if I could find the box
of electronics.

I wish I had just a hood to fix for the witch. You should see building
a house, she can be down right unreasonable. Oh, and I hear about why
is the shop bigger than the house every week. LOL

I'm fairly sure Albert King did "Born Under a Bad Sign" first.

David

Many of the classic rock hits were created by some very poor musicians that
were deceased before the rockers ever grew up.

One very interesting documentary that covered a lot of the old blues roots
was aired on PBS a number of years ago (maybe 10 years ago), which was
titled The History Of Rock And Roll, IIRC.
The entire series was maybe 6 hours long, very detailed with some of the
original recordings including Crossroads and quite a few more.

--
WB
..........
metalworking projects
www.kwagmire.com/metal_proj.html


"David R.Birch" wrote in message
...

snippins

I'm fairly sure Albert King did "Born Under a Bad Sign" first.

David

On Sat, 29 Nov 2008 08:53:30 -0500, the infamous "Wild_Bill"
scrawled the following:

Many of the classic rock hits were created by some very poor musicians that
were deceased before the rockers ever grew up.

One very interesting documentary that covered a lot of the old blues roots
was aired on PBS a number of years ago (maybe 10 years ago), which was
titled The History Of Rock And Roll, IIRC.
The entire series was maybe 6 hours long, very detailed with some of the
original recordings including Crossroads and quite a few more.

I saw that, way back when I had a TV feed. It was great. I also heard
some of the originals play them on the Sirius Jazz station on the same
satellite feed. I was amazed at the sheer number of them that I
recognized.

Long Live the Blues!

--
In all affairs it's a healthy thing now and then to hang a
question mark on the things you have long taken for granted.
-- Bertrand Russell

I was amazed that some of the original recordings survived long enough to be
duplicated.

Someone needed to take the initiative to make the trips to some backwoods
Mississippi Delta areas, with recording gear (and batteries, I suppose, or
arrange a session at a location with "fire on a wire") to get those old
musicians' works recorded on tape, to bring back to the "big city".. St
Louis, Chicago, Memphis etc.

It seems that there may have been only a very limited amount of rock 'n roll
without those early efforts. The direction and the music would've likely
been very different.

If the true roots of rock 'n roll would have been Pat Boone or Rosemary
Clooney, what a fuctup youth I woulda had, Oh wait, I did.

--
WB
..........
metalworking projects
www.kwagmire.com/metal_proj.html


"Larry Jaques" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 29 Nov 2008 08:53:30 -0500, the infamous "Wild_Bill"
scrawled the following:

Many of the classic rock hits were created by some very poor musicians
that
were deceased before the rockers ever grew up.

One very interesting documentary that covered a lot of the old blues roots
was aired on PBS a number of years ago (maybe 10 years ago), which was
titled The History Of Rock And Roll, IIRC.
The entire series was maybe 6 hours long, very detailed with some of the
original recordings including Crossroads and quite a few more.

I saw that, way back when I had a TV feed. It was great. I also heard
some of the originals play them on the Sirius Jazz station on the same
satellite feed. I was amazed at the sheer number of them that I
recognized.

Long Live the Blues!

--
In all affairs it's a healthy thing now and then to hang a
question mark on the things you have long taken for granted.
-- Bertrand Russell

On Sun, 30 Nov 2008 07:51:29 -0500, "Wild_Bill"
wrote:

I was amazed that some of the original recordings survived long enough to be
duplicated.

Someone needed to take the initiative to make the trips to some backwoods
Mississippi Delta areas, with recording gear (and batteries, I suppose, or
arrange a session at a location with "fire on a wire") to get those old
musicians' works recorded on tape, to bring back to the "big city".. St
Louis, Chicago, Memphis etc.

It seems that there may have been only a very limited amount of rock 'n roll
without those early efforts. The direction and the music would've likely
been very different.

If the true roots of rock 'n roll would have been Pat Boone or Rosemary
Clooney, what a fuctup youth I woulda had, Oh wait, I did.
Direct to wax recordings were done without electricity for years -
just like a gramophone .

wrote:
On Sun, 30 Nov 2008 07:51:29 -0500, "Wild_Bill"

I was amazed that some of the original recordings survived long enough to be
duplicated.

Someone needed to take the initiative to make the trips to some backwoods
Mississippi Delta area

) Direct to wax recordings were done without electricity for years -
) just like a gramophone .

Many of the original music recordings were courtesy of the federal
government WPA-like arts programs in the '30s. John Lomax and his wife
traveled in the South collecting "American Folk Music" for the Library
of Congress. My grandparents were recorded. The recordings are available
from the Library of Congress if you can show no copyright problems
with the performers. My Dad told me that the disc cutter was powered by
the battery in the Lomax's sedan. There is no indication of a syncronous
motor in the recordings; the speed is all over the place.

Kevin Gallimore





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The wax recordings were the early Edison machines, a revolving tube coated
with wax, maybe?

--
WB
..........
metalworking projects
www.kwagmire.com/metal_proj.html


wrote in message
...
On Sun, 30 Nov 2008 07:51:29 -0500, "Wild_Bill"
wrote:

I was amazed that some of the original recordings survived long enough to
be
duplicated.

Someone needed to take the initiative to make the trips to some backwoods
Mississippi Delta areas, with recording gear (and batteries, I suppose, or
arrange a session at a location with "fire on a wire") to get those old
musicians' works recorded on tape, to bring back to the "big city".. St
Louis, Chicago, Memphis etc.

It seems that there may have been only a very limited amount of rock 'n
roll
without those early efforts. The direction and the music would've likely
been very different.

If the true roots of rock 'n roll would have been Pat Boone or Rosemary
Clooney, what a fuctup youth I woulda had, Oh wait, I did.
Direct to wax recordings were done without electricity for years -
just like a gramophone .

Thanks, Kevin, now that you mentioned it, I seem to have a vague
recollection of that type of music collecting program.

I think what I'm remembering was that it may have been mentioned in a PBS
documentary about the large influx of Scotch-Irish immigrants into the
remote areas of Applachia (Peter Coyote narrating, one of many documentary
narrations), to collect the Celtic folk/folklore music they brought with
them, that later sorta morphed into the early American bluegrass music that
we recognize today.

--
WB
..........
metalworking projects
www.kwagmire.com/metal_proj.html


"axolotl" wrote in message
...
wrote:
On Sun, 30 Nov 2008 07:51:29 -0500, "Wild_Bill"

I was amazed that some of the original recordings survived long enough to
be duplicated.

Someone needed to take the initiative to make the trips to some backwoods
Mississippi Delta area

) Direct to wax recordings were done without electricity for years -
) just like a gramophone .

Many of the original music recordings were courtesy of the federal
government WPA-like arts programs in the '30s. John Lomax and his wife
traveled in the South collecting "American Folk Music" for the Library of
Congress. My grandparents were recorded. The recordings are available from
the Library of Congress if you can show no copyright problems with the
performers. My Dad told me that the disc cutter was powered by the battery
in the Lomax's sedan. There is no indication of a syncronous motor in the
recordings; the speed is all over the place.

Kevin Gallimore





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On Sun, 30 Nov 2008 19:19:27 -0500, axolotl
wrote:

wrote:
On Sun, 30 Nov 2008 07:51:29 -0500, "Wild_Bill"

I was amazed that some of the original recordings survived long enough to be
duplicated.

Someone needed to take the initiative to make the trips to some backwoods
Mississippi Delta area

) Direct to wax recordings were done without electricity for years -
) just like a gramophone .

Many of the original music recordings were courtesy of the federal
government WPA-like arts programs in the '30s. John Lomax and his wife
traveled in the South collecting "American Folk Music" for the Library
of Congress. My grandparents were recorded. The recordings are available
from the Library of Congress if you can show no copyright problems
with the performers.

And there are still some folks doing field recordings.
http://dust-digital.com/aofr1.htm
http://www.newyorker.com/online/2008...n_audio_bilger

--
Ned Simmons

On Fri, 28 Nov 2008 15:45:11 -0800, Larry Jaques
wrote:

servicemaximusATgmail.com