On 24/11/2018 22:47, Rod Speed wrote:
Bruce Farquhar wrote
I'm not talking about big locked ones, just the silly 3 foot high ones
that anyone can open.

Some are that anal. Some keep the dog in.

They also keep other peoples dogs out.

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Colin Bignell

"Nightjar" wrote in message
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On 24/11/2018 22:47, Rod Speed wrote:
Bruce Farquhar wrote
I'm not talking about big locked ones, just the silly 3 foot high ones
that anyone can open.

Some are that anal. Some keep the dog in.

They also keep other peoples dogs out.

Do you have that many dogs not on a lead ?

Brian Gaff brought next idea :
Actually I'd like to make all people have fences and gates. Down my street so
many people have made their front gardens into car parks that trying to do
as i used to just a few short years ago, shoreline a fence line to get to the
post box or the shops is now an obstacle course of wide open spaces, cars
that overhang the premises and stupidly placed wheelie bins. Its like a
nightmare for the blind. Now if the front was the only place to put a car,
I'd say fine, just put a little raised strip along the boundary, but no, all
the houses in my street have gardens and roads at the rear, most of the
gardens being over 100 ft long. Plenty of room for a car or two. Its
laziness. I call it the Thunderbirds solution. I'd imagine if they could
just step into an alcove and slide down into the driving seat than that would
be what they would install.

Likewise here, just laziness. There is a busy regular bus route along
the road, at the end of my street. A good half mile of that is occupied
by large detached and semi- detached houses, these share a long access
road at the rear and a have large-ish rear gardens with garages and
parking built on them. Do they use the rear to park, not likely...

They park out front, usually in a continuous row of near 1/2 mile of
parked vehicles, causing absolute chaos for traffic. Cars usually
manage to somehow get through, but buses really struggle. I have even
regularly seen them incredibly park on both sides of the road, making
it a real struggle for buses, sometimes impossible.

In article , Bruce Farquhar
wrote:
I'm not talking about big locked ones, just the silly 3 foot high ones
that anyone can open. They clearly don't stop burglars as you just hop
over it or open it.

they keep small dogs and children in, though

--
from KT24 in Surrey, England
"I'd rather die of exhaustion than die of boredom" Thomas Carlyle

On 25/11/2018 03:19, Archibald Tarquin Blenkinsopp wrote:
On Sun, 25 Nov 2018 01:51:01 +0000, soup
wrote:

On 25/11/2018 01:20, Archibald Tarquin Blenkinsopp wrote:

because in the UK just about everyone and his dog [and cat] has a
right to wander around a chaps property.

********.


From :-A government website, about as definitive as it gets

https://www.gov.uk/right-of-way-open...-right-to-roam

" Excepted land

On access land some areas remain private (€˜excepted land). You
dont
have the right to access these areas, even if they appear on a map of
open access land.

Excepted land includes:

houses, buildings and the land theyre on (such as courtyards)
land used to grow crops
building sites and land thats being developed
parks and gardens
golf courses and racecourses
railways and tramways
working quarries "

There is a subtle difference in your definition of access.

To roam is to enter a property without purpose, this is not a right.

To wander is different inasmuch a meter reader who is one of those
that will be allowed access can wander from room to room looking for a
meter.

Note the "'ALLOWED' access". The only people allowed access without the
homeowners permission are (I believe ) crown bailiffs and the police
force (sure there are conditions there) all others need the homeowners
permission.

You wander into someone's house (without their permission) and see how
long it is until the police arrest you .

On Sun, 25 Nov 2018 10:31:47 +0000, soup
wrote:

On 25/11/2018 03:19, Archibald Tarquin Blenkinsopp wrote:
On Sun, 25 Nov 2018 01:51:01 +0000, soup
wrote:

On 25/11/2018 01:20, Archibald Tarquin Blenkinsopp wrote:

because in the UK just about everyone and his dog [and cat] has a
right to wander around a chaps property.

********.


From :-A government website, about as definitive as it gets

https://www.gov.uk/right-of-way-open...-right-to-roam

" Excepted land

On access land some areas remain private (‘excepted land’). You
don’t
have the right to access these areas, even if they appear on a map of
open access land.

Excepted land includes:

houses, buildings and the land they’re on (such as courtyards)
land used to grow crops
building sites and land that’s being developed
parks and gardens
golf courses and racecourses
railways and tramways
working quarries "

There is a subtle difference in your definition of access.

To roam is to enter a property without purpose, this is not a right.

To wander is different inasmuch a meter reader who is one of those
that will be allowed access can wander from room to room looking for a
meter.

Note the "'ALLOWED' access". The only people allowed access without the
homeowners permission are (I believe ) crown bailiffs and the police
force (sure there are conditions there) all others need the homeowners
permission.

You wander into someone's house (without their permission) and see how
long it is until the police arrest you .

The right will be granted by a court if the homeowner refuses access.

The homeowner ultimately has little control over swathes of people
needing access.

It was the subject of a TV program some years back and many were very
surprised. As of course One would expect, if the program was about the
patently obvious it wouldn't have seen the studio.


AB

On Sat, 24 Nov 2018 20:44:55 -0500, , the disgusting,
troll-feeding senile Yankietard, blathered again:

In most US states a fence or other barrier is required around pools.

Darn, that gay Scottish ****** needs a fence around himself so you toothless
cocksucking Yankietards won't run along to suck him off on every occasion!

On Sun, 25 Nov 2018 12:03:20 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rot Speed,
the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:

Not

LOL He said it again, the pathological senile idiot!

--
Kerr-Mudd,John addressing senile Rot:
"Auto-contradictor Rod is back! (in the KF)"
MID:

On Sun, 25 Nov 2018 12:20:55 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rot Speed,
the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:

None

LOL Ah, a little variation on your negatives!

--
Bod addressing abnormal senile quarreller Rot:
"Do you practice arguing with yourself in an empty room?"
MID:

On Sun, 25 Nov 2018 12:08:46 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rot Speed,
the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:


They put the gates there to make mental
midgets go to usenet asking stupid questions.

He's right.

He's a right sick asshole! And so are you, senile Ozzietard!

--
about senile Rot Speed:
"This is like having a conversation with someone with brain damage."
MID:

On Sun, 25 Nov 2018 13:47:55 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rot Speed,
the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:


One hell of a stink on facebook when she first posted the video.

You looked it up on facebook, you useless senile Ozzie cretin? Do you have
ANY life AT ALL outside the internet, you abnormal creep?

--
"Anonymous" to trolling senile Rot Speed:
"You can **** off as you know less than pig **** you sad
little ignorant ****."
MID:

On Sat, 24 Nov 2018 20:06:41 -0500, Ed Pawlowski, the brain damaged
troll-feeding senile Yankietard, driveled again

On 11/24/2018 5:38 PM, Bruce Farquhar wrote:
I'm not talking about big locked ones, just the silly 3 foot high ones
that anyone can open.* They clearly don't stop burglars as you just hop
over it or open it.

Two reasons. Decorative and keep dogs out.

SUUUURE, troll-feeding senile idiot. Don't forget the cats that can't climb
over it and the birds that can't fly over it! Geeee...

On Sun, 25 Nov 2018 12:11:08 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rot Speed,
the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:

FLUSH idiots' drivel

--
Another typical retarded conversation between our two village idiots,
Birdbrain and Rot Speed:

Birdbrain: "You beat me to it. Plain sex is boring."

Senile Rot: "Then **** the cats. That wont be boring."

Birdbrain: "Sell me a de-clawing tool first."

Senile Rot: "Wont help with the teeth."

Birdbrain: "They've never gone for me with their mouths."

Rot Speed: "They will if you are stupid enough to try ****ing them."

Birdbrain: "No, they always use claws."

Rot Speed: "They wont if you try ****ing them. Try it and see."

Message-ID:

On Sun, 25 Nov 2018 09:20:26 -0000, Brianless & Daft, the notorious,
troll-feeding senile idiot, blathered


Bah Humbug.
Brainless

Yes, that sums up your and the troll's mentality perfectly, Brainless &
Daft!

On Sun, 25 Nov 2018 12:25:40 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rot Speed,
the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:


No

LOL

--
Kerr-Mudd,John addressing senile Rot:
"Auto-contradictor Rod is back! (in the KF)"
MID:

On Sun, 25 Nov 2018 12:12:15 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rot Speed,
the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:


Do pigs get shot if they approach a house?

Only in Waco Texas and Ruby Ridge etc.

Answering for the Americans now, you abnormal psychotic brainless Ozzietard?
LMAO

--
about senile Rot Speed:
"This is like having a conversation with someone with brain damage."
MID:

On 25/11/2018 10:41, Archibald Tarquin Blenkinsopp wrote:
On Sun, 25 Nov 2018 10:31:47 +0000, soup
wrote:

On 25/11/2018 03:19, Archibald Tarquin Blenkinsopp wrote:
On Sun, 25 Nov 2018 01:51:01 +0000, soup
wrote:

On 25/11/2018 01:20, Archibald Tarquin Blenkinsopp wrote:

because in the UK just about everyone and his dog [and cat] has a
right to wander around a chaps property.

********.


From :-A government website, about as definitive as it gets

https://www.gov.uk/right-of-way-open...-right-to-roam

" Excepted land

On access land some areas remain private (€˜excepted land). You
dont
have the right to access these areas, even if they appear on a map of
open access land.

Excepted land includes:

houses, buildings and the land theyre on (such as courtyards)
land used to grow crops
building sites and land thats being developed
parks and gardens
golf courses and racecourses
railways and tramways
working quarries "

There is a subtle difference in your definition of access.

To roam is to enter a property without purpose, this is not a right.

To wander is different inasmuch a meter reader who is one of those
that will be allowed access can wander from room to room looking for a
meter.

Note the "'ALLOWED' access". The only people allowed access without the
homeowners permission are (I believe ) crown bailiffs and the police
force (sure there are conditions there) all others need the homeowners
permission.

You wander into someone's house (without their permission) and see how
long it is until the police arrest you .

The right will be granted by a court if the homeowner refuses access.

Of course it will(for the avoidance of doubt that was sarcasm).

What possible reason could jimmy jinki****ter have to roam in your
dwelling? Why would a court get involved in granting access

You can tell anyone (barring Police and court bailiffs) to 'f off' if
they want access. Witness any amount of videos,newspaper articles etc
on BBC license 'enforcers' being refused access.

On Sun, 25 Nov 2018 10:05:03 +0000 (GMT), charles, another brain damaged,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blathered:



they keep small dogs and children in, though

Like he cares, you troll-feeding asshole! LOL

soup wrote:
On 25/11/2018 03:19, Archibald Tarquin Blenkinsopp wrote:
On Sun, 25 Nov 2018 01:51:01 +0000, soup
wrote:

On 25/11/2018 01:20, Archibald Tarquin Blenkinsopp wrote:

because in the UK just about everyone and his dog [and cat] has a
right to wander around a chaps property.

********.


Â*From :-A government website, about as definitive as it gets

https://www.gov.uk/right-of-way-open...-right-to-roam

"Â*Â*Â* Excepted land

Â*Â*Â* On access land some areas remain private (€˜excepted land). You
dont
Â*Â*Â* have the right to access these areas, even if they appear on a
map of
Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* open access land.

Â*Â* Excepted land includes:

Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* houses, buildings and the land theyre on (such as courtyards)
Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* land used to grow crops
Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* building sites and land thats being developed
Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* parks and gardens
Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* golf courses and racecourses
Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* railways and tramways
Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* working quarriesÂ*Â*Â* "

There is a subtle difference in your definition of access.

To roam is to enter a property without purpose, this is not a right.

To wander is different inasmuch a meter reader who is one of those
that will be allowed access can wander from room to room looking for a
meter.

Note the "'ALLOWED' access".Â* The only people allowed access without the
homeowners permission are (I believe ) crown bailiffs and the police
force (sure there are conditions there) all others need the homeowners
permission.

Â*You wander into someone's house (without their permission) and see how
long it is until the police arrest you .
I suppose it depends on the jurisdiction but I think you would find that
any one is allowed entry up to the front door unless steps are taken to
stop this.

On 11/25/2018 6:02 AM, Randal Peelen wrote:
On Sun, 25 Nov 2018 09:20:26 -0000, Brianless & Daft, the notorious,
troll-feeding senile idiot, blathered


Bah Humbug.
Brainless

Yes, that sums up your and the troll's mentality perfectly, Brainless &
Daft!


Yes, the Sword's, Knife, whatever scent was all over this post.

On Saturday, November 24, 2018 at 5:38:11 PM UTC-5, Bruce Farquhar wrote:
I'm not talking about big locked ones, just the silly 3 foot high ones that anyone can open. They clearly don't stop burglars as you just hop over it or open it.

For the most part, we don't have them.

Cindy Hamilton

"FMurtz" wrote in message
...
I suppose it depends on the jurisdiction but I think you would find that
any one is allowed entry up to the front door unless steps are taken to
stop this.

They probably have to have a lawful excuse for being there, though.
Delivering letters, or putting fliers through everyone's letter box, or
touting for bob-a-job etc are probably regarded as legal, as is calling on
that specific person to see if they are in and want to go for a pint at the
pub.

But being there for no good reason (or even for suspected bad reason) would
be a different matter.

I lived next door to a policeman, and he kept an eye on the houses in the
estate on Mischief Night and Halloween for lads (not from that estate) who
were going round throwing eggs at people's front doors. He once nabbed a lad
who claimed that he was going to visit his gran to take her a box of eggs
that she'd asked for. When he couldn't say what her name was, and guessed an
incorrect house number, and couldn't explain why the box only had two eggs
in it, and there were egg-stains on the house next door, my neighbour nicked
him for malicious damage.

There is probably a pass-and-repass clause as well, as there is technically
for public footpaths in England and Wales: you are allowed to walk along a
footpath to get from A to B and back again, but you are not (technically)
allowed to stop and have a picnic or spend ages in the same place. I think
it was added to the public footpath legislation after a wealthy racehorse
owner objected to people stopping on a nearby public footpath, armed with
binoculars and notebooks to note how well his various horses were running so
they could sell this information to bookmakers that were taking bets on the
horse races.


I know that Scotland has implied "Open Access" for the whole of the country,
and so doesn't have defined rights of way ("everywhere" is a right of way,
subject to the exclusions like houses, railway lines etc), but I've always
wondered whether marked paths and tracks are still shown on OS maps to
denote whether there is a defined route that is habitually walked, so you
know that this will be compacted ground and not a ploughed field, and
probably way-marked, as opposed to land that may have all sorts of hazards
such as streams, bogs etc with no defined crossing points - in England and
Wales, you can *usually* assume that a footpath that goes up to a stream
bank and continues on the other side will have some means of getting across,
whether it's little footbridge, stepping stones or else is so shallow that
it can be forded as long as the stream is not in flood. Looking at a
Scottish OS maps, there don't seem to be any routes which are marked, not
just "you *may* walk here", but additionally "you *can* walk here without
getting stuck on impassable ground".

On 24/11/2018 22:38, Bruce Farquhar wrote:
I'm not talking about big locked ones, just the silly 3 foot high ones
that anyone can open.* They clearly don't stop burglars as you just hop
over it or open it.

On my street at least, keep leaves, litter and toileting dogs out of the
front garden.

--
Cheers, Rob

On 11/24/2018 8:03 PM, Bruce Farquhar wrote:
On Sun, 25 Nov 2018 00:42:39 -0000, Clare Snyder
wrote:

On Sat, 24 Nov 2018 23:56:31 -0000, "Bruce Farquhar"
wrote:

On Sat, 24 Nov 2018 22:47:57 -0000, Rod Speed
wrote:

Bruce Farquhar wrote

I'm not talking about big locked ones, just the
silly 3 foot high ones that anyone can open.

Some are that anal.

Probably.

Some keep the dog in.

A few, but 10 times as many gates here as dogs.

They clearly don't stop burglars
as you just hop over it or open it.
*They put the gates there to make mental midgets go to usenet asking
stupid questions.

They really annoy people like postmen, opening and closing 1000 of them
a day.

How is that possible when you stated they can just hop over them?

On 11/25/2018 7:53 AM, wrote:
On Saturday, November 24, 2018 at 5:38:11 PM UTC-5, Bruce Farquhar wrote:
I'm not talking about big locked ones, just the silly 3 foot high ones that anyone can open. They clearly don't stop burglars as you just hop over it or open it.

For the most part, we don't have them.

Cindy Hamilton


That's dumb. Now you will have cattle and sheep roaming your yard.

On Sun, 25 Nov 2018 08:42:36 -0500, Meanie, the brain damaged,
troll-feeding, senile Yankietard, driveled again:


How is that possible when you stated they can just hop over them?

Hard to tell: is it YOU feeding the troll? Or is it YOU feeding on the
troll's bull****, senile idiot?

On Sun, 25 Nov 2018 04:53:30 -0800 (PST), , the
notorious, troll-feeding, senile Yankietard, blathered again:


For the most part, we don't have them.

Cindy Hamilton

Asshole!

On Sun, 25 Nov 2018 13:08:25 +0000, RJH, another brain damaged,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blathered:


On my street at least, keep leaves, litter and toileting dogs out of the
front garden.

Did you HAVE to add yet more bull**** to this bull**** thread, you
troll-feeding idiot?

On Sunday, November 25, 2018 at 9:28:54 AM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 11/25/2018 7:53 AM, wrote:
On Saturday, November 24, 2018 at 5:38:11 PM UTC-5, Bruce Farquhar wrote:
I'm not talking about big locked ones, just the silly 3 foot high ones that anyone can open. They clearly don't stop burglars as you just hop over it or open it.

For the most part, we don't have them.

Cindy Hamilton


That's dumb. Now you will have cattle and sheep roaming your yard.

Oh, that's why I get those animals wandering in all the time. Thanks
for the advice, Ed.

Cindy

On Sun, 25 Nov 2018 23:03:04 +1100, FMurtz
wrote:

soup wrote:
On 25/11/2018 03:19, Archibald Tarquin Blenkinsopp wrote:
On Sun, 25 Nov 2018 01:51:01 +0000, soup
wrote:

On 25/11/2018 01:20, Archibald Tarquin Blenkinsopp wrote:

because in the UK just about everyone and his dog [and cat] has a
right to wander around a chaps property.

********.


*From :-A government website, about as definitive as it gets

https://www.gov.uk/right-of-way-open...-right-to-roam

"*** Excepted land

*** On access land some areas remain private (‘excepted land’). You
don’t
*** have the right to access these areas, even if they appear on a
map of
******* open access land.

** Excepted land includes:

***** houses, buildings and the land they’re on (such as courtyards)
***** land used to grow crops
***** building sites and land that’s being developed
***** parks and gardens
***** golf courses and racecourses
***** railways and tramways
***** working quarries*** "

There is a subtle difference in your definition of access.

To roam is to enter a property without purpose, this is not a right.

To wander is different inasmuch a meter reader who is one of those
that will be allowed access can wander from room to room looking for a
meter.

Note the "'ALLOWED' access".* The only people allowed access without the
homeowners permission are (I believe ) crown bailiffs and the police
force (sure there are conditions there) all others need the homeowners
permission.

*You wander into someone's house (without their permission) and see how
long it is until the police arrest you .
I suppose it depends on the jurisdiction but I think you would find that
any one is allowed entry up to the front door unless steps are taken to
stop this.
Hense the "garden gate" - it is delineating the point where free
access is restricted..

The UK does not have the property rights than the US does, but there
is still the concept of "private property". A blike can't just pitch a
tent in your front lawn without permission.

On Sun, 25 Nov 2018 01:08:46 -0000, Rod Speed wrote:



"Clare Snyder" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 24 Nov 2018 23:56:31 -0000, "Bruce Farquhar"
wrote:

On Sat, 24 Nov 2018 22:47:57 -0000, Rod Speed
wrote:

Bruce Farquhar wrote

I'm not talking about big locked ones, just the
silly 3 foot high ones that anyone can open.

Some are that anal.

Probably.

Some keep the dog in.

A few, but 10 times as many gates here as dogs.

They clearly don't stop burglars
as you just hop over it or open it.

They put the gates there to make mental
midgets go to usenet asking stupid questions.

He's right.

Me?

On Sun, 25 Nov 2018 01:11:08 -0000, Rod Speed wrote:



"Bruce Farquhar" wrote in message
news
On Sun, 25 Nov 2018 00:20:20 -0000, wrote:

On Sat, 24 Nov 2018 22:38:07 -0000, "Bruce Farquhar"
wrote:

I'm not talking about big locked ones, just the silly 3 foot high ones
that anyone can open. They clearly don't stop burglars as you just hop
over it or open it.

In the US jumping over a fence goes a long way towards justifying
being shot. (at least in the red states)

But just opening it to walk through, you could be just going to the front
door.

Few yanks are such desperate povs/chavs that the only place
you can get to thru the gate is the front door, even in trailer parks.

I said COULD. So someone entering through the gate shouldn't be shot, as they could be visiting you, delivering a package etc.

So the gate achieved nothing.

It clearly does if they jump over it.

You mean doesn't.

On 11/24/18 5:59 PM, Bruce Farquhar wrote:
On Sat, 24 Nov 2018 23:02:04 -0000, Thomas wrote:

They are pretty.
Locks only keep out the honest.

And petty theiving kids.

and those too drunk to notice they're trying to enter the wrong house.

On Sun, 25 Nov 2018 01:20:55 -0000, Rod Speed wrote:



"Bruce Farquhar" wrote in message
news
On Sun, 25 Nov 2018 00:42:39 -0000, Clare Snyder
wrote:

On Sat, 24 Nov 2018 23:56:31 -0000, "Bruce Farquhar"
wrote:

On Sat, 24 Nov 2018 22:47:57 -0000, Rod Speed
wrote:

Bruce Farquhar wrote

I'm not talking about big locked ones, just the
silly 3 foot high ones that anyone can open.

Some are that anal.

Probably.

Some keep the dog in.

A few, but 10 times as many gates here as dogs.

They clearly don't stop burglars
as you just hop over it or open it.
They put the gates there to make mental midgets go to usenet asking
stupid questions.

They really annoy people like postmen, opening and closing 1000 of them a
day.

None of ours do. They zoom up on their motorbikes and stuff
the letters into the letterbox which is never inside the gate.
http://www.skillsone.com.au/vidgallery/the-posties-run/
watch at 3:30

How is it I knew he was Australian as soon as I saw him?

If he did that here some moronic pig would do him for motorbiking on the pavement.

I guess Australia is like America, being larger per head of population, so you all tend to have larger front gardens. I really couldn't be bothered going to collect my mail instead of having it come into my front door.

On Sun, 25 Nov 2018 01:25:40 -0000, Rod Speed wrote:



"Bruce Farquhar" wrote in message
news
On Sun, 25 Nov 2018 00:59:24 -0000, Rod Speed
wrote:



"Bruce Farquhar" wrote in message
news On Sat, 24 Nov 2018 22:47:57 -0000, Rod Speed
wrote:

Bruce Farquhar wrote

I'm not talking about big locked ones, just the
silly 3 foot high ones that anyone can open.

Some are that anal.

Probably.

Some keep the dog in.

A few, but 10 times as many gates here as dogs.

Not here. Few front gates here.

Aussies are a bit more down to earth if that's the right phrase.

No it isnt.

I mean they just get on with things instead of making a fuss about unimportant ****.

On Sun, 25 Nov 2018 01:38:45 -0000, Rod Speed wrote:



"Bruce Farquhar" wrote in message
news
On Sun, 25 Nov 2018 01:03:20 -0000, Rod Speed
wrote:



"Bruce Farquhar" wrote in message
news On Sat, 24 Nov 2018 23:02:04 -0000, Thomas wrote:

They are pretty.
Locks only keep out the honest.

And petty theiving kids.

Not here. We do have gates with almost all pools
and even a gate doesn't stop the worst of them.

I was talking about locks,

That one is locked. All pool fence gates have to be.

I didn't know you lived in lawyer filled America.

and on things that cannot be scaled,

That little monkey shows that they all can be.

like a front door to a house.

Bet that wont stop that one when get gets older.

It stops them wandering in for a laugh. Won't stop burglars though, nothing does.

https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/pa...c3ffcbfea4a0bd

That's the kid's problem.

No problem for him.

And their parents for not simply teaching them to swim.

No point in his case, there was no pool yet.

Everyone should learn to swim, it's a very useful ability. Sensible people teach their babies to swim, it's easier at that age. Then you know there will never be a problem if your kid falls into something.

Pools here don't generally have fences.

Only because there are **** all pools there.

Those that are don't have fences, we aren't as pessimistic as you lot.

Fly into Sydney, you will see that most have them here.
https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-33..../data=!3m1!1e3

Kids can either swim or aren't stupid enough to go into a pool when they
can't.

Even sillier than you usually manage and that's saying something.

If you have kids that go into a pool when they can't swim, they need removing from the gene er.... pool anyway.

On Sun, 25 Nov 2018 01:44:55 -0000, wrote:

On Sun, 25 Nov 2018 01:06:11 -0000, "Bruce Farquhar"
wrote:

On Sun, 25 Nov 2018 01:03:20 -0000, Rod Speed wrote:



"Bruce Farquhar" wrote in message
news On Sat, 24 Nov 2018 23:02:04 -0000, Thomas wrote:

They are pretty.
Locks only keep out the honest.

And petty theiving kids.

Not here. We do have gates with almost all pools
and even a gate doesn't stop the worst of them.

I was talking about locks, and on things that cannot be scaled, like a front door to a house.

https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/pa...c3ffcbfea4a0bd

That's the kid's problem. And their parents for not simply teaching them to swim. Pools here don't generally have fences. Kids can either swim or aren't stupid enough to go into a pool when they can't.

In most US states a fence or other barrier is required around pools.
There are plenty of rules about fence height, latch height, gates must
open out and be self latching.
If you have a compliant fence and a kid still gets in, you have a
pretty safe position if they try to sue you.

You lot really need to grow up and stop blaming each other for everything. Someone falls in a pool, it's THEIR fault, nobody else's! Are you all retards who can't look after yourselves?

On Sun, 25 Nov 2018 01:47:21 -0000, wrote:

On Sun, 25 Nov 2018 12:12:15 +1100, "Rod Speed"
wrote:



"Bruce Farquhar" wrote in message
news
On Sun, 25 Nov 2018 00:20:20 -0000, wrote:

On Sat, 24 Nov 2018 22:38:07 -0000, "Bruce Farquhar"
wrote:

I'm not talking about big locked ones, just the silly 3 foot high ones
that anyone can open. They clearly don't stop burglars as you just hop
over it or open it.

In the US jumping over a fence goes a long way towards justifying
being shot. (at least in the red states)

Do pigs get shot if they approach a house?

Only in Waco Texas and Ruby Ridge etc.

Cleveland, LA. the list goes on.
The result is still the same. The cops kill as many as they can,
sometimes everyone inside.

You ought to organise a nationwide cop cull.

On Sun, 25 Nov 2018 02:47:55 -0000, Rod Speed wrote:



wrote in message
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On Sun, 25 Nov 2018 12:03:20 +1100, "Rod Speed"
wrote:



"Bruce Farquhar" wrote in message
news On Sat, 24 Nov 2018 23:02:04 -0000, Thomas wrote:

They are pretty.
Locks only keep out the honest.

And petty theiving kids.

Not here. We do have gates with almost all pools
and even a gate doesn't stop the worst of them.
https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/pa...c3ffcbfea4a0bd

If the kid is that smart, they should have taught him to swim by now.

They decided it was too risky and decided to not have the pool till he is
older.

Er, they had a pool before he could swim. Stupid as **** really.

One hell of a stink on facebook when she first posted the video.

On Sun, 25 Nov 2018 12:14:57 -0000, Frank "frank wrote:

On 11/25/2018 6:02 AM, Randal Peelen wrote:
On Sun, 25 Nov 2018 09:20:26 -0000, Brianless & Daft, the notorious,
troll-feeding senile idiot, blathered


Bah Humbug.
Brainless

Yes, that sums up your and the troll's mentality perfectly, Brainless &
Daft!


Yes, the Sword's, Knife, whatever scent was all over this post.

Oh do grow up.