On Sun, 25 Nov 2018 10:31:47 +0000, soup
wrote:

On 25/11/2018 03:19, Archibald Tarquin Blenkinsopp wrote:
On Sun, 25 Nov 2018 01:51:01 +0000, soup
wrote:

On 25/11/2018 01:20, Archibald Tarquin Blenkinsopp wrote:

because in the UK just about everyone and his dog [and cat] has a
right to wander around a chaps property.

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From :-A government website, about as definitive as it gets

https://www.gov.uk/right-of-way-open...-right-to-roam

" Excepted land

On access land some areas remain private (‘excepted land’). You
don’t
have the right to access these areas, even if they appear on a map of
open access land.

Excepted land includes:

houses, buildings and the land they’re on (such as courtyards)
land used to grow crops
building sites and land that’s being developed
parks and gardens
golf courses and racecourses
railways and tramways
working quarries "

There is a subtle difference in your definition of access.

To roam is to enter a property without purpose, this is not a right.

To wander is different inasmuch a meter reader who is one of those
that will be allowed access can wander from room to room looking for a
meter.

Note the "'ALLOWED' access". The only people allowed access without the
homeowners permission are (I believe ) crown bailiffs and the police
force (sure there are conditions there) all others need the homeowners
permission.

You wander into someone's house (without their permission) and see how
long it is until the police arrest you .

The right will be granted by a court if the homeowner refuses access.

The homeowner ultimately has little control over swathes of people
needing access.

It was the subject of a TV program some years back and many were very
surprised. As of course One would expect, if the program was about the
patently obvious it wouldn't have seen the studio.


AB