I've had a septic system for 15 years and never had it pumped out.
Yet I see neighbors pumping theirs every 3 years.

All I put down mine is crap and TP and pee (sorry for being blunt).

1. Pee just drains away.
2. Crap (I assume) dissolves itself (bacteria) over time.
3. But what about the TP?

Does the TP dissolve like the crap dissolves?
Or does the TP eventually fill the tank up?

(Why doesn't mine fill up then?)

On Mon, 30 Jan 2017 04:17:41 -0000 (UTC), Martim Ribeiro
wrote:

I've had a septic system for 15 years and never had it pumped out.
Yet I see neighbors pumping theirs every 3 years.

All I put down mine is crap and TP and pee (sorry for being blunt).

1. Pee just drains away.
2. Crap (I assume) dissolves itself (bacteria) over time.
3. But what about the TP?

Does the TP dissolve like the crap dissolves?
Or does the TP eventually fill the tank up?

(Why doesn't mine fill up then?)

It dissolves eventually, brand dependent. Some are worse than others.
Charmin (and similar) is supposed to be the worst.

Martim wrote:
I've had a septic system for 15 years and never had it pumped out.
Yet I see neighbors pumping theirs every 3 years.
All I put down mine is crap and TP and pee (sorry for being blunt).
1. Pee just drains away.
2. Crap (I assume) dissolves itself (bacteria) over time.
3. But what about the TP?
Does the TP dissolve like the crap dissolves?
Or does the TP eventually fill the tank up?
(Why doesn't mine fill up then?)

There's a sceptic tank additive you can get at a hardware store that helps break down solid waste.

On 01/29/2017 11:17 PM, Martim Ribeiro wrote:
I've had a septic system for 15 years and never had it pumped out.
Yet I see neighbors pumping theirs every 3 years.



Apparently your neighbors are smarter than you.

On Monday, January 30, 2017 at 3:02:46 AM UTC-6, 01001100110 wrote:
Martim wrote:
I've had a septic system for 15 years and never had it pumped out.
Yet I see neighbors pumping theirs every 3 years.
All I put down mine is crap and TP and pee (sorry for being blunt).
1. Pee just drains away.
2. Crap (I assume) dissolves itself (bacteria) over time.
3. But what about the TP?
Does the TP dissolve like the crap dissolves?
Or does the TP eventually fill the tank up?
(Why doesn't mine fill up then?)

There's a sceptic tank additive you can get at a hardware store that helps break down solid waste.


Why not just drink the additive and it will get into the septic system that way? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[8~{} Uncle Poop Monster

On Mon, 30 Jan 2017 04:17:41 -0000 (UTC), Martim Ribeiro
wrote:

I've had a septic system for 15 years and never had it pumped out.
Yet I see neighbors pumping theirs every 3 years.

All I put down mine is crap and TP and pee (sorry for being blunt).

1. Pee just drains away.
2. Crap (I assume) dissolves itself (bacteria) over time.
3. But what about the TP?

Does the TP dissolve like the crap dissolves?
Or does the TP eventually fill the tank up?

(Why doesn't mine fill up then?)


At some point yours may need more than just a pumping. May be five
more years, may be next week. It won't be forever.

On 1/29/2017 11:17 PM, Martim Ribeiro wrote:
I've had a septic system for 15 years and never had it pumped out.
Yet I see neighbors pumping theirs every 3 years.

All I put down mine is crap and TP and pee (sorry for being blunt).

1. Pee just drains away.
2. Crap (I assume) dissolves itself (bacteria) over time.
3. But what about the TP?

Does the TP dissolve like the crap dissolves?
Or does the TP eventually fill the tank up?

(Why doesn't mine fill up then?)


Toilet paper composts but it is not a good idea not to have your system
pumped occasionally. If you wait until solids spill over into field you
might have an expensive problem.

On Mon, 30 Jan 2017 04:18:53 -0500
Jimmy wrote:

On 01/29/2017 11:17 PM, Martim Ribeiro wrote:
I've had a septic system for 15 years and never had it pumped out.
Yet I see neighbors pumping theirs every 3 years.



Apparently your neighbors are smarter than you.


How so?

A properly maintained Septic system may never need pumped.

20+ years of no pumping is no uncommon.

On Mon, 30 Jan 2017 05:58:00 -0500, in alt.home.repair Ed Pawlowski wrote:

At some point yours may need more than just a pumping. May be five
more years, may be next week. It won't be forever.

I can easily understand what you're saying, but some of my neighbors said
they've gone easily 20 years without a problem while others say they pump
every 3 years, so, something is very weird here with the answers.

Why I need to rely on you is that it's crazy when you google for what
happens to the toilet paper in a home septic tank system.
https://www.google.com/search?q=does...olve+in+septic

You never get an answer to the question!

What you get is a list of toilet papers that are "better" than others.
OK. But that's not really the question (although I guess it's part of the
answer.)

The main question is does the stuff eventually biodegrade to nothing or
does it eventually need to be pumped out.

Googling for what happens to the poop:
https://www.google.com/search?q=does...olve+in+septic

Again, it's amazing that you never get the answer straight.
Most of the answers are from companies selling septic system cleaning, so,
I guess that's why you can't get a straight answer out of the web?

On Mon, 30 Jan 2017 08:09:15 -0500, in alt.home.repair burfordTjustice
wrote:

How so?

A properly maintained Septic system may never need pumped.

20+ years of no pumping is no uncommon.

I asked a few neighbors today, where there are two types it seems (I asked
in email so I had a good sample of a handful of replies).

Some do it every three years.
Others never do it.

I'm not sure what the difference is since they all must be built to the
same code.

On Mon, 30 Jan 2017 00:32:09 -0500, in alt.home.repair
wrote:

It dissolves eventually, brand dependent. Some are worse than others.
Charmin (and similar) is supposed to be the worst.

Now we're getting personal, but to let you know, I use Kirkland, the
cheapest stuff they sell.

Uncle Monster wrote :
On Monday, January 30, 2017 at 3:02:46 AM UTC-6, 01001100110 wrote:
Martim wrote:
I've had a septic system for 15 years and never had it pumped out.
Yet I see neighbors pumping theirs every 3 years.
All I put down mine is crap and TP and pee (sorry for being blunt).
1. Pee just drains away.
2. Crap (I assume) dissolves itself (bacteria) over time.
3. But what about the TP?
Does the TP dissolve like the crap dissolves?
Or does the TP eventually fill the tank up?
(Why doesn't mine fill up then?)

There's a sceptic tank additive you can get at a hardware store that helps
break down solid waste.


Why not just drink the additive and it will get into the septic system that
way? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[8~{} Uncle Poop Monster

An sdditive for a sceptic tank seems suspicious to me. It probably
doesn't work anyway.

On 1/30/2017 3:07 PM, FromTheRafters wrote:
Uncle Monster wrote :
On Monday, January 30, 2017 at 3:02:46 AM UTC-6, 01001100110 wrote:
Martim wrote:
I've had a septic system for 15 years and never had it pumped out.
Yet I see neighbors pumping theirs every 3 years.
All I put down mine is crap and TP and pee (sorry for being blunt).
1. Pee just drains away.
2. Crap (I assume) dissolves itself (bacteria) over time.
3. But what about the TP?
Does the TP dissolve like the crap dissolves?
Or does the TP eventually fill the tank up?
(Why doesn't mine fill up then?)

There's a sceptic tank additive you can get at a hardware store that
helps break down solid waste.


Why not just drink the additive and it will get into the septic system
that way? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[8~{} Uncle Poop Monster

An sdditive for a sceptic tank seems suspicious to me. It probably
doesn't work anyway.

It's a waste of money. You don't need to reactivate the bacteria. Even
if killed by gallons of bleach, it would wash through and poop reactivate.

On 1/30/2017 2:12 PM, Martim Ribeiro wrote:

You never get an answer to the question!



Googling for what happens to the poop:
https://www.google.com/search?q=does...olve+in+septic

Again, it's amazing that you never get the answer straight.
Most of the answers are from companies selling septic system cleaning, so,
I guess that's why you can't get a straight answer out of the web?


There is no one answer for everyone. Take the simple parts like a four
person family that does the same laundry, same diet and excrement etc.
but put them a few miles apart.

Variables start with the results of the perc test. How big a system?
What is the soil composition? Water table, trees, and a bunch of other
things that affect the overall life of the system. Best to have it
checked once in a while.

On Monday, January 30, 2017 at 2:07:43 PM UTC-6, FromTheRafters wrote:
Uncle Monster wrote :
On Monday, January 30, 2017 at 3:02:46 AM UTC-6, 01001100110 wrote:
Martim wrote:
I've had a septic system for 15 years and never had it pumped out.
Yet I see neighbors pumping theirs every 3 years.
All I put down mine is crap and TP and pee (sorry for being blunt).
1. Pee just drains away.
2. Crap (I assume) dissolves itself (bacteria) over time.
3. But what about the TP?
Does the TP dissolve like the crap dissolves?
Or does the TP eventually fill the tank up?
(Why doesn't mine fill up then?)

There's a sceptic tank additive you can get at a hardware store that helps
break down solid waste.


Why not just drink the additive and it will get into the septic system that
way? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[8~{} Uncle Poop Monster

An sdditive for a sceptic tank seems suspicious to me. It probably
doesn't work anyway.

There are additives that contain the poop eating microbes. I imagine you could equate a septic system to your bowels. Both need the right mix of microbes to function properly. If you flush cleaning chemicals down the toilet, such chemicals could kill the waste eating critters. If you take a lot of antibiotics it really screws up your digestion because it kills your gut flora. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[8~{} Uncle Gut Monster

Martim Ribeiro writes:

I've had a septic system for 15 years and never had it pumped out.
Yet I see neighbors pumping theirs every 3 years.

All I put down mine is crap and TP and pee (sorry for being blunt).

1. Pee just drains away.
2. Crap (I assume) dissolves itself (bacteria) over time.
3. But what about the TP?

Does the TP dissolve like the crap dissolves?
Or does the TP eventually fill the tank up?

(Why doesn't mine fill up then?)

It's paper. Of course it breaks down.

--
Dan Espen

Martim Ribeiro writes:

On Mon, 30 Jan 2017 08:09:15 -0500, in alt.home.repair burfordTjustice
wrote:

How so?

A properly maintained Septic system may never need pumped.

20+ years of no pumping is no uncommon.

I asked a few neighbors today, where there are two types it seems (I asked
in email so I had a good sample of a handful of replies).

Some do it every three years.
Others never do it.

I'm not sure what the difference is since they all must be built to the
same code.

If they are doing it every 3 years, someone has convinced them they need
it. I doubt they experience back ups or overflow every 3 years.

I'm in the never camp.

--
Dan Espen

On Mon, 30 Jan 2017 01:21:46 -0800 (PST), Uncle Monster
wrote:

There's a sceptic tank additive you can get at a hardware store that helps break down solid waste.


Why not just drink the additive and it will get into the septic system that way? ¯\_(?)_/¯

[8~{} Uncle Poop Monster

Try 'John Wayne' paper. Rough, tough and don't take **** off nobody.
Almost like sandpaper.

In alt.home.repair, on Mon, 30 Jan 2017 19:12:18 -0000 (UTC), Martim
Ribeiro wrote:

On Mon, 30 Jan 2017 00:32:09 -0500, in alt.home.repair
wrote:

It dissolves eventually, brand dependent. Some are worse than others.
Charmin (and similar) is supposed to be the worst.

Now we're getting personal, but to let you know, I use Kirkland, the
cheapest stuff they sell.

Just don't use Tyvek brand.

In alt.home.repair, on Mon, 30 Jan 2017 19:12:15 -0000 (UTC), Martim
Ribeiro wrote:

On Mon, 30 Jan 2017 05:58:00 -0500, in alt.home.repair Ed Pawlowski wrote:

At some point yours may need more than just a pumping. May be five
more years, may be next week. It won't be forever.

I can easily understand what you're saying, but some of my neighbors said
they've gone easily 20 years without a problem while others say they pump
every 3 years, so, something is very weird here with the answers.

That means to me that you can go forever unless something goes wrong,
and by having someone check it every so many years, mayyybe he'll see
that it is more full than it shoudl be, and he'll do something about it

So that you wont' have a so-called emergncy where your toile won't flush
and have to pay extra for him to come out on Xmas eve. Some people
think avoiding a weekend tthey can't use the water is worth paying when
there is no problem, some people want local proof that this can happen,
and others will go to the supermarket to use the bathroom rather than
pay for a cleaning they might need. The odds are, in an "emergency"
you can get someone to come out during regular work hours and, if
you're willing to call around, will only have to wait from 3PM on Monday
to 4PM on Tuesday. Or from 6PM on Monday to 10AM on Wednesday.


I think part of the service is to add more of those microbes that do the
eating, even though they are randy little devils and have been know to
make their own babies. You should ask and not rely on me.

And of course some of the services add something to kill the microbes so
that they can come back again in 6 months.. Just kidding.

On Mon, 30 Jan 2017 07:44:21 -0500, Frank "frank wrote:


Toilet paper composts but it is not a good idea not to have your system
pumped occasionally. If you wait until solids spill over into field you
might have an expensive problem.

I fully agree. I have my septic pumped every 3 years. Those solids do
decompose, but they accumulate, and they have to go somwhere. There are
only 2 places they can go. Either into your drain field (which will clog
it), or they will backup into your house.

By the way, "REAL MEN" dont use toilet paper. LOL

On Mon, 30 Jan 2017 21:59:27 -0600, wrote:

On Mon, 30 Jan 2017 07:44:21 -0500, Frank "frank wrote:


Toilet paper composts but it is not a good idea not to have your system
pumped occasionally. If you wait until solids spill over into field you
might have an expensive problem.

I fully agree. I have my septic pumped every 3 years. Those solids do
decompose, but they accumulate, and they have to go somwhere. There are
only 2 places they can go. Either into your drain field (which will clog
it), or they will backup into your house.

By the way, "REAL MEN" dont use toilet paper. LOL

The latest idea in drain fields is a chamber system where you have big
open chambers underground that the tank drains into with soil or
gravel on top of the soil under them. It makes the system a lot less
susceptible to being plugged by scum coming out of the tank.

http://infiltratorsystems.com/produc...tions/chambers

If you really are religious about only putting human waste and TP into your system, you can almost always go for at least 5 years without pumping.

If you know where the tank cleanout cover is located, you can did it up and stick a rough-surfaced wooden pole into the tank, If there is sludge build-up, you can see it when you remove the stick. If the stick is clean, you are in good shape and not in danger of clogging the drain field pipes.

On Mon, 30 Jan 2017 21:59:27 -0600, in alt.home.repair
wrote:

By the way, "REAL MEN" dont use toilet paper. LOL

I don't know the cost of periodic pumping nor of a bidet, but, it seems to
me that if the cost of pumping is, say, 500 bucks each time, and the cost
of a bidet is, say, 1000 bucks, that I can justify to the wife that it's
cheaper to install a bidet than it is to periodically pump the septic.

Anyone out there have an aftermarket installed bidet?
Does it make economic sense?

On Mon, 30 Jan 2017 21:56:25 -0500, in alt.home.repair micky wrote:

Now we're getting personal, but to let you know, I use Kirkland, the
cheapest stuff they sell.

Just don't use Tyvek brand.

I wonder if it makes economic sense to install a bidet instead of
a. Buying toilet paper for the rest of my life, and,
b. Pumping out the septic system every X years.

Anyone have a bidet aftermarket installed?
The problem, I think, is that warm water isn't normally at the toilet.

How do they solve the problem of piping warm water to the aftermarket
bidet?

On Tue, 31 Jan 2017 09:24:48 -0000 (UTC), Martim Ribeiro
wrote:

On Mon, 30 Jan 2017 21:59:27 -0600, in alt.home.repair
wrote:

By the way, "REAL MEN" dont use toilet paper. LOL

I don't know the cost of periodic pumping nor of a bidet, but, it seems to
me that if the cost of pumping is, say, 500 bucks each time, and the cost
of a bidet is, say, 1000 bucks, that I can justify to the wife that it's
cheaper to install a bidet than it is to periodically pump the septic.

Anyone out there have an aftermarket installed bidet?
Does it make economic sense?

I kind of like the idea of a bidet. I once figured out that we spend
around $150 per year for toilet paper, and I dont buy the expensive
stuff.

The last time I had my tank pumped, it cost $115. But I always dig the
dirt off the cover, so all the pumper has to do it run the pump. I think
it costs $180 if he has to do the digging. But that price may be a lot
different elsewhere, depending on state codes, distance to travel, and
other stuff. (Dont guess, CALL a local pumper and ask for a quote).

I have not priced a bidet. In my case I'd install it myself.

There is another option, an OUTHOUSE.
When the hole fills up, you grab a shovel, dig a new hole about 8 foot
deep nearby and find someone with a team of pulling horses to pull the
outhouse over the new hole.

On 1/31/2017 5:18 AM, wrote:


I kind of like the idea of a bidet. I once figured out that we spend
around $150 per year for toilet paper, and I dont buy the expensive
stuff.


Big gamily? I bet we don't spend half that. I'll have to check the
price but I get a big bundle at B's maybe twice a year for the two of us.

On Tue, 31 Jan 2017 04:18:46 -0600, in alt.home.repair
wrote:

I kind of like the idea of a bidet. I once figured out that we spend
around $150 per year for toilet paper, and I dont buy the expensive
stuff.

Let's go with $150 per year for TP (plus the hassle of having to store it,
especially if you're a Costco buyer like I am, where storage is the name of
the game).

So, over your homeowning lifetime, which, let's say, is from 40 to 80, so,
let's say it's 40 years, that's six thousand bucks in TP (for the whole
house).

If you have, say, 3 bathrooms, that's two thousand bucks that you can save,
per bathroom, over 40 years of a bidet versus TP.

How much does it cost to retroactively add a warm-water bidet to a
bathroom?


The last time I had my tank pumped, it cost $115.

You didn't say where you live, but you can't get the mailman to come out
here for $115 per visit. So, it's going to be $500 minimum out here (and
maybe more, I don't know). But it's never going to be anywhere near $115
for anything.

I will see if I can find out prices though, since I'm just guessing at
$500.

Google google google

This article (which is kind of old though) says that just the new state
regulations *add* $100 to the cost of pumping septic systems in the area!
http://www.santacruzsentinel.com/art...NEWS/902049844

They say that the average cost in 2009 was $325 every five years to inspect
the septic system so I think $400 is probably a good number to use for this
area.

So, $400 every five years is $3,200 over the 40 years that you own a home.

For the entire house, the costs a
1. $3,200 for pumping the septic
2. $6,000 for toilet paper

Let's call that 10K dollars is the cost of using the toilet paper.
Does that make sense as a start?

But I always dig the
dirt off the cover, so all the pumper has to do it run the pump. I think
it costs $180 if he has to do the digging. But that price may be a lot
different elsewhere, depending on state codes, distance to travel, and
other stuff. (Dont guess, CALL a local pumper and ask for a quote).

I'll call in the morning to get a quote, but I can't imagine the prices are
anywhere near what you're quoting.

I have not priced a bidet. In my case I'd install it myself.

Me too. I think the main cost is in heating the water.
Either you pipe warm water to the toilet, or, you pipe electricity to warm
the cold water.

Neither electricity nor warm water is usually at a toilet though, so, I'm
not sure which basic option is best.

There is another option, an OUTHOUSE.
When the hole fills up, you grab a shovel, dig a new hole about 8 foot
deep nearby and find someone with a team of pulling horses to pull the
outhouse over the new hole.

Actually, believe it or not, there is another option, which is not as
chilly as an outhouse. You can get a roll of small plastic bags, and when
you wipe your butt with TP, you just seal the used TP in the plastic bags
and put it in the garbage can next to most people's toilets.

Would that work?

Of course, there's the cost of the plastic, but, I always grab a ream of
the stuff at Costco when I go and stuff it in the cart (they let me). I use
it to bag the cat litter, which is essentially the same thing we're talking
here. And then I put the bagged cat litter in the trash.

So, for free, you can bag your TP and save about $10K in 40 years!

On Tue, 31 Jan 2017 06:13:04 -0500, in alt.home.repair Ed Pawlowski wrote:

Big gamily? I bet we don't spend half that. I'll have to check the
price but I get a big bundle at B's maybe twice a year for the two of us.

Funny slip of the tongue, big "gams"?

I don't know how much the Costco TP costs, nor how often I buy it.
I think, pretty much, if I think hard, that I buy a package of the stuff
every 3 months or so (I'm guessing but I think it's about that long).

How much does the Costco TP cost?

Google gooogle google

Looks like it's item #585578 and it's about $25 for 30 rolls (425
sheets/roll), 1,600 sq feet per package.
https://www.costco.com/Kirkland-Sign...100142093.html

So, if I buy that package once every three months (there are teenage girls
in the home), that's about $200 per year which is on par with the original
estimate of $150/year by someone else.

Just the sales tax alone on that is almost twenty bucks a year.

If we add this up, we get the cost of TP over 40 years of owning your own
home to be about $8K (where the tax alone adds almost another 800 bucks).

Assuming it's $400 every five years to pump out the system, and assuming
that you never have to pump if you don't put TP down the septic, then the
costs over the 40 years you own a home is about:

Costs:
1. 8K dollars for TP
2. 3K dollars for pumping
----
Let's round that out to 10K dollars

How much is a retroactively adding a bidet to the 3 bathrooms in a typical
home?

I think the problem is heating the water, either by electricity or by
piping hot water, neither of which is usually in a bathroom stall.

On Tuesday, January 31, 2017 at 5:13:07 AM UTC-6, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 1/31/2017 5:18 AM, wrote:

I kind of like the idea of a bidet. I once figured out that we spend
around $150 per year for toilet paper, and I dont buy the expensive
stuff.

Big gamily? I bet we don't spend half that. I'll have to check the
price but I get a big bundle at B's maybe twice a year for the two of us.

Um what's a "gamily"? Is it a part of human anatomy? I'm no expert on anatomy but I know a little and I've never heard of a gamily. (・_・ヾ

[8~{} Uncle Toilet Monster

On Tue, 31 Jan 2017 03:40:15 -0800 (PST), in alt.home.repair Uncle Monster
wrote:

Um what's a "gamily"? Is it a part of human anatomy? I'm no expert on anato=
my but I know a little and I've never heard of a gamily

Gams are lady's legs.

"Martim Ribeiro" wrote in message
news
On Mon, 30 Jan 2017 21:59:27 -0600, in alt.home.repair
wrote:

By the way, "REAL MEN" dont use toilet paper. LOL

I don't know the cost of periodic pumping nor of a bidet, but, it seems to
me that if the cost of pumping is, say, 500 bucks each time, and the cost
of a bidet is, say, 1000 bucks, that I can justify to the wife that it's
cheaper to install a bidet than it is to periodically pump the septic.

Anyone out there have an aftermarket installed bidet?
Does it make economic sense?

You can get units that incorporate a spray and which fit under the toulet
seat, about $30 up. Although not quite the same as a bidet, they do the
same job. Neither removes the need for TP, just reduces the need.

We have two, like them.

On Mon, 30 Jan 2017 19:12:17 -0000 (UTC), Martim Ribeiro
wrote in

Some do it every three years.
Others never do it.

I have mine pumped about every 5 or 6 years.
--
Web based forums are like subscribing to 10 different newspapers
and having to visit 10 different news stands to pickup each one.
Email list-server groups and USENET are like having all of those
newspapers delivered to your door every morning.

On Mon, 30 Jan 2017 19:12:17 -0000 (UTC)
Martim Ribeiro wrote:

On Mon, 30 Jan 2017 08:09:15 -0500, in alt.home.repair burfordTjustice
wrote:

How so?

A properly maintained Septic system may never need pumped.

20+ years of no pumping is no uncommon.

I asked a few neighbors today, where there are two types it seems (I
asked in email so I had a good sample of a handful of replies).

Some do it every three years.
Others never do it.

I'm not sure what the difference is since they all must be built to
the same code.

maintenance and/or got suckered.

On Tuesday, January 31, 2017 at 5:44:51 AM UTC-6, Martim Ribeiro wrote:
On Tue, 31 Jan 2017 03:40:15 -0800 (PST), in alt.home.repair Uncle Monster
wrote:

Um what's a "gamily"? Is it a part of human anatomy? I'm no expert on anato=
my but I know a little and I've never heard of a gamily

Gams are lady's legs.

I'm aware of the old colloquialism used by American soldiers during WWII to describe a woman's legs. A picture of Betty Grable showing off her gams was a soldiers favorite pinup girl. A gam/gams also describes a a school of whales, porpoises, or dolphins. Also a social meeting or informal conversation (originally one among whalers at sea). ヽ(€¢€¿€¢)ノ

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:B...entury_Fox.jpg

[8~{} Uncle Gammy Monster

Martim Ribeiro writes:

On Mon, 30 Jan 2017 21:56:25 -0500, in alt.home.repair micky wrote:

Now we're getting personal, but to let you know, I use Kirkland, the
cheapest stuff they sell.

Just don't use Tyvek brand.

I wonder if it makes economic sense to install a bidet instead of
a. Buying toilet paper for the rest of my life, and,
b. Pumping out the septic system every X years.

You think you won't use paper after squirting water on your butt?

Anyone have a bidet aftermarket installed?
The problem, I think, is that warm water isn't normally at the toilet.

How do they solve the problem of piping warm water to the aftermarket
bidet?

Never had one, but with limited flow, the water is going to start
out near room temperature.

--
Dan Espen

On 1/29/2017 8:17 PM, Martim Ribeiro wrote:
I've had a septic system for 15 years and never had it pumped out.
Yet I see neighbors pumping theirs every 3 years.

All I put down mine is crap and TP and pee (sorry for being blunt).

1. Pee just drains away.
2. Crap (I assume) dissolves itself (bacteria) over time.
3. But what about the TP?

Does the TP dissolve like the crap dissolves?
Or does the TP eventually fill the tank up?

(Why doesn't mine fill up then?)


Anybuddy know the answer to this?
He don't pump his ****ter an' the **** down there must be goin'
somewheres...

On Tue, 31 Jan 2017 09:24:48 -0000 (UTC), Martim Ribeiro
wrote:


Anyone out there have an aftermarket installed bidet?

Handheld Bidet Sprayers

Attachable Bidets

Bidet Warmers

Accessories

http://www.biffy.com/

A friend has one, I've been to this company and looked. We plan on
two of them. Look up the Biffy brand on Youtube

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nuSgAlSx2mI

On Tue, 31 Jan 2017 06:44:51 -0600, CRNG
wrote:

On Mon, 30 Jan 2017 19:12:17 -0000 (UTC), Martim Ribeiro
wrote in

Some do it every three years.
Others never do it.

I have mine pumped about every 5 or 6 years.


Our Township requires us to pump every three years

On 01/31/2017 06:27 AM, dadiOH wrote:

[snip]

You can get units that incorporate a spray and which fit under the toulet
seat, about $30 up. Although not quite the same as a bidet, they do the
same job. Neither removes the need for TP, just reduces the need.

We have two, like them.


I have one of those inexpensive bidet seats. I really like it, and it
greatly reduces the need for TP. Most of the TP I use isn't very ****ty,
so it can be put in the trash rather than down the toilet (which almost
never gets stopped up now).

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