On 1/10/2016 4:43 PM, Uncle Monster wrote:
On Saturday, January 9, 2016 at 10:54:18 PM UTC-6, Muggles wrote:
The true Church isn't a denomination - it's the body of Christ.
--
Maggie

There is this thing I tell all my Christian friends
and relatives,"Don't tell me how good you are, show
me." It's a simple concept. ヽ(ヅ)ノ

[8~{} Uncle Heretic Monster


Anyone who knew me 25 years ago before the church,
and knows me now, can see the change.

--
..
Christopher A. Young
learn more about Jesus
.. www.lds.org
..
..

On 1/10/2016 5:51 PM, Eagle wrote:
on 1/10/2016, Uncle Monster supposed :
There is this thing I tell all my Christian friends and
relatives,"Don't tell me how good you are, show me." It's a simple
concept. ヽ(ヅ)ノ

[8~{} Uncle Heretic Monster

Very smart concept as well!

I'd have to search for it, but in the KJV there is a
similar conversation. Show me your faith by your works.

--
..
Christopher A. Young
learn more about Jesus
.. www.lds.org
..
..

On 1/10/2016 5:40 PM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
On 1/10/2016 11:33 AM, Muggles wrote:

According to the BibleI'm using KJV, which, you previously said is
what you use, too.)

Eph 1 says the church is the body of Christ. You can read the entire
chapter for clarification, but I'll post 2 verses that sum it up.

Eph 1:22-And hath put all things under his feet, and gave *him to be the
head over all things to the church, 23 Which is his body*, the fulness
of him that filleth all in all.
https://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/eph/1/1/s_1098001

1 Corinthians explains in more detail what the *body of Christ* is made
up of:

1Co 12:12 For as the body is one, and hath many members, and all the
members of that one body, being many, are one body: so also is Christ.
13 For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be
Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to
drink into one Spirit. 14For the body is not one member, but many.

Based on just those scriptures alone, and there are many others, the KJV
expressly says that Christ is the head of the church, and the church is
his body, and since the church is his body scripture then explains that
his body is made up of many members.

Humanity has taken Christ's church and put labels on the various
groupings of members and have chosen to emphasize various doctrines, and
methods of worship. Those are what are called denominations, and a
denomination is not solely representative of the body of Christ.

The ONE TRUE CHURCH is and can only be the body of Christ - not a
denomination.

Is it wrong to be part of a denomination? I don't see any scripture that
would come close to saying that. No one person or group of people is
the ONE TRUE CHURCH. Only Christ's body if the one true church.

1Co 13:9 For we know in part, and we prophesy in part. 10 But when that
which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away.
12 For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I
know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known.


The various Christian churches of the world each
read the Bible and get different answers. As such,
I don't think it's possible to only read the Bible
(King James or other version) and know all truths.

I'm not presenting all truths, and I've only just quoted what the Bible
says directly from the version you've said that you use. I haven't
changed the text in any way. It specifically says the church IS the
Body of Christ, and the Body of Christ is made up of many members.

Fortunately, we have a prophet, continuing revelation,
personal revelation, and the Heavens are open.


So, you don't really hold to anything in the KJV Bible, then?

--
Maggie

On 1/10/2016 6:07 PM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
On 1/10/2016 5:51 PM, Eagle wrote:
on 1/10/2016, Uncle Monster supposed :
There is this thing I tell all my Christian friends and
relatives,"Don't tell me how good you are, show me." It's a simple
concept. ヽ(ヅ)ノ

[8~{} Uncle Heretic Monster

Very smart concept as well!

I'd have to search for it, but in the KJV there is a
similar conversation. Show me your faith by your works.


It's "Faith without works is dead."
Jas 2:20-26


--
Maggie

On 1/10/2016 9:26 PM, Muggles wrote:
On 1/10/2016 5:40 PM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
Fortunately, we have a prophet, continuing revelation,
personal revelation, and the Heavens are open.


So, you don't really hold to anything in the KJV Bible, then?


Mormons use the KJV quite extensively in study
and teachings. I can't remember the verses off
hand, but they did use several KJV verses today
in church.

Having revelation helps us to better understand
the Bible, and other scriptures.

--
..
Christopher A. Young
learn more about Jesus
.. www.lds.org
..
..

On 1/10/2016 8:36 PM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
On 1/10/2016 9:26 PM, Muggles wrote:
On 1/10/2016 5:40 PM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
Fortunately, we have a prophet, continuing revelation,
personal revelation, and the Heavens are open.


So, you don't really hold to anything in the KJV Bible, then?


Mormons use the KJV quite extensively in study
and teachings. I can't remember the verses off
hand, but they did use several KJV verses today
in church.

Having revelation helps us to better understand
the Bible, and other scriptures.


Do you study the Bible yourself?

--
Maggie

On 1/10/2016 9:37 PM, Muggles wrote:
On 1/10/2016 8:36 PM, Stormin Mormon wrote:

Mormons use the KJV quite extensively in study
and teachings. I can't remember the verses off
hand, but they did use several KJV verses today
in church.

Having revelation helps us to better understand
the Bible, and other scriptures.


Do you study the Bible yourself?


I've got no formal personal scripture study of
any kind. It's one of my big failings. I do enjoy
the church magazines and I do try to follow along
in church.

--
..
Christopher A. Young
learn more about Jesus
.. www.lds.org
..
..

On Sunday, January 10, 2016 at 4:50:51 PM UTC-6, Eagle wrote:
Uncle Monster submitted this idea :
On Sunday, January 10, 2016 at 7:51:35 AM UTC-6, wrote:
Eagle wrote: "Stormin Mormon laid this down on his screen :

Stormin Mormon wrote:
" I'm sorry that you can't see things as clearly
as I see them. "

Religion is a very personal belief system, so condeming someone who
doesn't believe as you will cause nothing but negativity. "

Correct Eagle. With that in mind we should condemn
not Stormin' but the BELIEF SYSTEM which has led
him astray. And pray in the name of Jesus that the path
to Him be laid plain for all Mormons, LDS, etc.

SILENCE, I KEEL YOU!! •°(゜益゜)•¯

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GBvfiCdk-jc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MunApcNUodQ

[8~{} Uncle Terrorist Monster

lol Didn't your Brother use that "I KEEL YOU" bit?

We're both big fans of Achmed The Dead Terrorist and baby brother is an annoyingly big fan. I KEEL YOU! t(ツ)_/¯

[8~{} Uncle Terrorist Monster

On 1/10/2016 8:50 PM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
On 1/10/2016 9:37 PM, Muggles wrote:
On 1/10/2016 8:36 PM, Stormin Mormon wrote:

Mormons use the KJV quite extensively in study
and teachings. I can't remember the verses off
hand, but they did use several KJV verses today
in church.

Having revelation helps us to better understand
the Bible, and other scriptures.


Do you study the Bible yourself?


I've got no formal personal scripture study of
any kind. It's one of my big failings. I do enjoy
the church magazines and I do try to follow along
in church.


ok I can recommend the Blueletterbible.org website. Everything you
could ever need there.

--
Maggie

On Sunday, January 10, 2016 at 4:53:14 PM UTC-6, Eagle wrote:
After serious thinking Uncle Monster wrote :
On Saturday, January 9, 2016 at 11:19:13 AM UTC-6, Eagle wrote:
Stormin Mormon expressed precisely :
On 1/9/2016 1:29 AM, Uncle Monster wrote:
On Friday, January 8, 2016 at 2:12:09 PM UTC-6, Tekkie® wrote:
Over in alt.hvac he claimed to be a tech. He gave out information that
could
hurt or kill someone, frequently. He would sell used parts out of his van
as
new. As a locksmith he admitted to ripping old people off, breaking jams
if
necessary.

Research his postings over the years there and here. These are the ones I
remember now. I won't have anything to do with such a person. I have KF
him.
As I see some of his posts carried through he is still pulling his act;
expert when posting-innocent when caught. He refuses to learn.

I cannot discern whether he is troll or idiot. I try to warn people away,
that is the best I can do.
--
Tekkie

Well, I've never witnessed any of those transgressions or bad behavior. SM
has never been nasty to me even though we pick on and tease each other. My
policy is to hate everyone equally until they give me a reason not to. I
judge people on how they treat me or on the way I see them treat others.
ヽ(€¢€¿€¢)ノ

[8~{} Uncle Despicable Monster


Maybe you have not what wasn't actually there?
The regular posters on alternating havoc really
impolite to me over a period of years. It is
very possible they took any thing they could, and
twisted it to appear what it wasn't.

And maybe I'm neither a troll nor an idiot, except
in this one person's mind.

I believe that Stormy. I know several posters who are full of suspicion
and paranoia. Say one word out of place and you are treated like T dude
is treating you, Stormy.
This NG is not for hating or spreading hate. [Unless you are Monster,
then you can hate everyone with enthusiazim. ^^

I H Word you for that hateist comment. o_O

[8~{} Uncle Hateist Monster

I retract the H word and substitute dislike. ^^

I Hemorrhoid you. You ass monkey. ヽ(à²*_à²*)ノ

[8~{} Uncle Prolapsed Monster

On Sunday, January 10, 2016 at 6:07:16 PM UTC-6, Stormin Mormon wrote:
On 1/10/2016 5:51 PM, Eagle wrote:
on 1/10/2016, Uncle Monster supposed :
There is this thing I tell all my Christian friends and
relatives,"Don't tell me how good you are, show me." It's a simple
concept. ヽ(ヅ)ノ

[8~{} Uncle Heretic Monster

Very smart concept as well!

I'd have to search for it, but in the KJV there is a
similar conversation. Show me your faith by your works.
--
.
Me, my brother and friends do/did work for a lot of churches. It's not because we share their faith or attend those churches, it's because they're nice people. I know a lot of the members of those churches who've done mission work and one of the churches, a small Episcopal church has a soup kitchen and will feed anyone who comes through the door. They will also give food, clothing and household goods to the needy. I get angry when human trash takes advantage of them but they are wonderful folks. ヽ(à²*_à²*)ノ

[8~{} Uncle Evil Monster

On 1/10/2016 10:09 PM, Muggles wrote:
On 1/10/2016 8:50 PM, Stormin Mormon wrote:

Do you study the Bible yourself?


I've got no formal personal scripture study of
any kind. It's one of my big failings. I do enjoy
the church magazines and I do try to follow along
in church.


ok I can recommend the Blueletterbible.org website. Everything you
could ever need there.


I'd only study with LDS materials. The churches
of the world can't agree what the Bible says.
Yours (or anyone else including LDS) web site or
study materials are going to be an interpretation.
Perfer to stick with my own brand of study.

--
..
Christopher A. Young
learn more about Jesus
.. www.lds.org
..
..

On 1/10/2016 9:33 PM, Muggles wrote:
On 1/10/2016 6:07 PM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
There is this thing I tell all my Christian friends and
relatives,"Don't tell me how good you are, show me." It's a simple
concept. ヽ(ヅ)ノ

[8~{} Uncle Heretic Monster

Very smart concept as well!

I'd have to search for it, but in the KJV there is a
similar conversation. Show me your faith by your works.


It's "Faith without works is dead."
Jas 2:20-26


Yep, I went and looked. That's about what
I'd been thinking.

--
..
Christopher A. Young
learn more about Jesus
.. www.lds.org
..
..

On 1/10/2016 9:36 PM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
On 1/10/2016 10:09 PM, Muggles wrote:
On 1/10/2016 8:50 PM, Stormin Mormon wrote:

Do you study the Bible yourself?


I've got no formal personal scripture study of
any kind. It's one of my big failings. I do enjoy
the church magazines and I do try to follow along
in church.


ok I can recommend the Blueletterbible.org website. Everything you
could ever need there.


I'd only study with LDS materials. The churches
of the world can't agree what the Bible says.
Yours (or anyone else including LDS) web site or
study materials are going to be an interpretation.
Perfer to stick with my own brand of study.


Don't you want to read for yourself? How do you know what they are
teaching you about the Bible is true if you don't study it yourself?

--
Maggie

On 1/10/2016 9:46 PM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
On 1/10/2016 9:33 PM, Muggles wrote:
On 1/10/2016 6:07 PM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
There is this thing I tell all my Christian friends and
relatives,"Don't tell me how good you are, show me." It's a simple
concept. ヽ(ヅ)ノ

[8~{} Uncle Heretic Monster

Very smart concept as well!

I'd have to search for it, but in the KJV there is a
similar conversation. Show me your faith by your works.


It's "Faith without works is dead."
Jas 2:20-26


Yep, I went and looked. That's about what
I'd been thinking.


What do you think about this text:

Gal 2:16 Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law,
but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ,
that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works
of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.

--
Maggie

On Sun, 10 Jan 2016 14:49:21 -0800, "Eagle"
wrote:

We could outlaw the word "Hate" like the N word. So we would now have to
say,"I H Word the taste of this S Word! Did some N Word wipe hhi's A Word
with it before you tossed it on the grill?! WTF?!! Ain't society amusing? ?.?

[8~{} Uncle H Word Monster

You could use politically correct words in their place as well,
friendly handicapped mushtush moonstar. :')

Thats it. This thread is going into the Kill File now!

On Sunday, January 10, 2016 at 11:08:42 PM UTC-6, wrote:
On Sun, 10 Jan 2016 14:49:21 -0800, "Eagle"
wrote:

We could outlaw the word "Hate" like the N word. So we would now have to
say,"I H Word the taste of this S Word! Did some N Word wipe hhi's A Word
with it before you tossed it on the grill?! WTF?!! Ain't society amusing? ?.?

[8~{} Uncle H Word Monster

You could use politically correct words in their place as well,
friendly handicapped mushtush moonstar. :')

Thats it. This thread is going into the Kill File now!

But, but, we just started having fun. Whine, snivel..... :-(

[8~{} Uncle Sad Monster

On 1/10/2016 11:28 PM, Muggles wrote:
On 1/10/2016 9:36 PM, Stormin Mormon wrote:

ok I can recommend the Blueletterbible.org website. Everything you
could ever need there.


I'd only study with LDS materials. The churches
of the world can't agree what the Bible says.
Yours (or anyone else including LDS) web site or
study materials are going to be an interpretation.
Perfer to stick with my own brand of study.


Don't you want to read for yourself? How do you know what they are
teaching you about the Bible is true if you don't study it yourself?


The LDS teaching materials direct people to read
the Bible (and other scriptures) themselves. The
teaching materials provide some background and
context, which is very helpful.

You know the truth of the message because the Holy
Ghost testifies of the truth. Which I've never found
in any other church or denomination.
--
..
Christopher A. Young
learn more about Jesus
.. www.lds.org
..
..

Muggles pretended :
On 1/10/2016 4:03 PM, Uncle Monster wrote:
On Sunday, January 10, 2016 at 1:00:42 PM UTC-6, Muggles wrote:

It's a COLD mornin'! lol
--
Maggie

It's 37 degrees F at 4:00 pm here. It was in the 70's last week. My fracking
joints and my hair hurts. It makes it hard for me to get around. (‹‹–‚‹Œ)

[8~{} Uncle Creaky Monster


It was 13° this morning, but it's a warm 27° right now. brrrrr

It's41 right now headed for a high of 60.
I like cool weather, not cooooold weather.

Uncle Monster brought next idea :
On Sunday, January 10, 2016 at 4:53:14 PM UTC-6, Eagle wrote:
After serious thinking Uncle Monster wrote :
On Saturday, January 9, 2016 at 11:19:13 AM UTC-6, Eagle wrote:
Stormin Mormon expressed precisely :
On 1/9/2016 1:29 AM, Uncle Monster wrote:
On Friday, January 8, 2016 at 2:12:09 PM UTC-6, Tekkie® wrote:
Over in alt.hvac he claimed to be a tech. He gave out information that
could
hurt or kill someone, frequently. He would sell used parts out of his
van as
new. As a locksmith he admitted to ripping old people off, breaking
jams if
necessary.

Research his postings over the years there and here. These are the ones
I remember now. I won't have anything to do with such a person. I have
KF him.
As I see some of his posts carried through he is still pulling his act;
expert when posting-innocent when caught. He refuses to learn.

I cannot discern whether he is troll or idiot. I try to warn people
away, that is the best I can do.
--
Tekkie

Well, I've never witnessed any of those transgressions or bad behavior.
SM has never been nasty to me even though we pick on and tease each
other. My policy is to hate everyone equally until they give me a
reason not to. I judge people on how they treat me or on the way I see
them treat others. ヽ(€¢€¿€¢)ノ

[8~{} Uncle Despicable Monster


Maybe you have not what wasn't actually there?
The regular posters on alternating havoc really
impolite to me over a period of years. It is
very possible they took any thing they could, and
twisted it to appear what it wasn't.

And maybe I'm neither a troll nor an idiot, except
in this one person's mind.

I believe that Stormy. I know several posters who are full of suspicion
and paranoia. Say one word out of place and you are treated like T dude
is treating you, Stormy.
This NG is not for hating or spreading hate. [Unless you are Monster,
then you can hate everyone with enthusiazim. ^^

I H Word you for that hateist comment. o_O

[8~{} Uncle Hateist Monster

I retract the H word and substitute dislike. ^^

I Hemorrhoid you. You ass monkey. ヽ(à²*_à²*)ノ

[8~{} Uncle Prolapsed Monster

And a fine arthurs ritis to you too, mushy mooner. ^^

On 1/11/2016 6:19 AM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
On 1/10/2016 11:28 PM, Muggles wrote:
On 1/10/2016 9:36 PM, Stormin Mormon wrote:

ok I can recommend the Blueletterbible.org website. Everything you
could ever need there.


I'd only study with LDS materials. The churches
of the world can't agree what the Bible says.
Yours (or anyone else including LDS) web site or
study materials are going to be an interpretation.
Perfer to stick with my own brand of study.

Don't you want to read for yourself? How do you know what they are
teaching you about the Bible is true if you don't study it yourself?


The LDS teaching materials direct people to read
the Bible (and other scriptures) themselves. The
teaching materials provide some background and
context, which is very helpful.

Before there was an internet the only tools I had to study the bible
were books, and bible lessons that someone else put together. I did all
sorts of organized exegesis of the bible by chapter (verse by verse),
and by topic (comparing the all verses on particular subjects). Then
home pcs and the internet came on the scene and someone put the bible on
a disc as a desktop application, and after that the bible and every
study tool known was put on web sites. Now, every topic, scripture,
lesson can be researched in depth online, in addition to research,
commentaries, dictionaries and lexicons.

I've never just done someone elses bible study materials alone because
many bible studies are put together to lead a person down some
particular road to a specific agenda.

A generic study tool like the blueletterbible.org doesn't promote any
denominational agenda, therefore, a person can study and find out for
themselves what the text really says vs. what someone else wants to lead
you to so you'll be programmed to believe what they tell you to believe.
I decide what I will believe based on research on any given topic, and
that includes the bible. It's another reason why I can't and don't
promote any particular denomination because they all have an agenda.
I'm not saying they're bad because of it, but religion can turn people
into mindless drones who can only do and believe what they're told.

You know the truth of the message because the Holy
Ghost testifies of the truth. Which I've never found
in any other church or denomination.

The Holy Ghost is supposed to be the fulfillment of a promise Christ
made that when he left this Earth a helper would come to us, and we'd be
filled with the Holy Spirit. The HS isn't about denomination, although,
some denominations emphasize the HS more than others.

--
Maggie

On 1/11/2016 9:33 AM, Eagle wrote:
Muggles pretended :
On 1/10/2016 4:03 PM, Uncle Monster wrote:
On Sunday, January 10, 2016 at 1:00:42 PM UTC-6, Muggles wrote:

It's a COLD mornin'! lol
--
Maggie

It's 37 degrees F at 4:00 pm here. It was in the 70's last week. My
fracking joints and my hair hurts. It makes it hard for me to get
around. (‹‹–‚‹Œ)
[8~{} Uncle Creaky Monster


It was 13° this morning, but it's a warm 27° right now. brrrrr

It's41 right now headed for a high of 60.
I like cool weather, not cooooold weather.

It's around 30° here now. So far this winter we haven't had that many
days below 40°, but old man winter blew in some colder temps the last
few days to remind us he ain't dead yet!

--
Maggie

On Monday, January 11, 2016 at 9:33:58 AM UTC-6, Eagle wrote:
Muggles pretended :
On 1/10/2016 4:03 PM, Uncle Monster wrote:
On Sunday, January 10, 2016 at 1:00:42 PM UTC-6, Muggles wrote:

It's a COLD mornin'! lol
--
Maggie

It's 37 degrees F at 4:00 pm here. It was in the 70's last week. My fracking
joints and my hair hurts. It makes it hard for me to get around. (‹‹–‚‹Œ)

[8~{} Uncle Creaky Monster


It was 13° this morning, but it's a warm 27° right now. brrrrr

It's41 right now headed for a high of 60.
I like cool weather, not cooooold weather.

It was 21F at 8:00am and now at 10:45am it's 29F. Dang the temp runs around all over the place. I understand from the news that Canada is going to stick its tongue out at us again. Perhaps we'll have a psychotic winter? ヽ(€¢€¿€¢)ノ

[8~{} Uncle Cold Monster

On Monday, January 11, 2016 at 9:36:31 AM UTC-6, Eagle wrote:
Uncle Monster brought next idea :
On Sunday, January 10, 2016 at 4:53:14 PM UTC-6, Eagle wrote:
After serious thinking Uncle Monster wrote :
On Saturday, January 9, 2016 at 11:19:13 AM UTC-6, Eagle wrote:
Stormin Mormon expressed precisely :
On 1/9/2016 1:29 AM, Uncle Monster wrote:
On Friday, January 8, 2016 at 2:12:09 PM UTC-6, Tekkie® wrote:
Over in alt.hvac he claimed to be a tech. He gave out information that
could
hurt or kill someone, frequently. He would sell used parts out of his
van as
new. As a locksmith he admitted to ripping old people off, breaking
jams if
necessary.

Research his postings over the years there and here. These are the ones
I remember now. I won't have anything to do with such a person. I have
KF him.
As I see some of his posts carried through he is still pulling his act;
expert when posting-innocent when caught. He refuses to learn.

I cannot discern whether he is troll or idiot. I try to warn people
away, that is the best I can do.
--
Tekkie

Well, I've never witnessed any of those transgressions or bad behavior.
SM has never been nasty to me even though we pick on and tease each
other. My policy is to hate everyone equally until they give me a
reason not to. I judge people on how they treat me or on the way I see
them treat others. ヽ(€¢€¿€¢)ノ

[8~{} Uncle Despicable Monster


Maybe you have not what wasn't actually there?
The regular posters on alternating havoc really
impolite to me over a period of years. It is
very possible they took any thing they could, and
twisted it to appear what it wasn't.

And maybe I'm neither a troll nor an idiot, except
in this one person's mind.

I believe that Stormy. I know several posters who are full of suspicion
and paranoia. Say one word out of place and you are treated like T dude
is treating you, Stormy.
This NG is not for hating or spreading hate. [Unless you are Monster,
then you can hate everyone with enthusiazim. ^^

I H Word you for that hateist comment. o_O

[8~{} Uncle Hateist Monster

I retract the H word and substitute dislike. ^^

I Hemorrhoid you. You ass monkey. ヽ(à²*_à²*)ノ

[8~{} Uncle Prolapsed Monster

And a fine arthurs ritis to you too, mushy mooner. ^^

The weather around here has been changing so much that my hair hurts. (Œ£Ì�_Œ£Ì€)

[8~{} Uncle Pain Monster

Eagle wrote:
At 6:41AM PST a shaker hit the Lake Elsonore area. It was strong enough
to wake up the 'hood, but noone got out of bed.
yawn

Speaking of earthquake, I enjoyed a fiction by Ken Follet.
"Hammer of Eden"

On 1/11/2016 11:05 AM, Muggles wrote:
On 1/11/2016 6:19 AM, Stormin Mormon wrote:

The LDS teaching materials direct people to read
the Bible (and other scriptures) themselves. The
teaching materials provide some background and
context, which is very helpful.

Before there was an internet the only tools I had to study the bible
were books, and bible lessons that someone else put together.

SM: And what changed? You now have the Bible itself, and bible
lessons that someone else put together.

I did all
sorts of organized exegesis of the bible by chapter (verse by verse),
and by topic (comparing the all verses on particular subjects). Then
home pcs and the internet came on the scene and someone put the bible on
a disc as a desktop application, and after that the bible and every
study tool known was put on web sites. Now, every topic, scripture,
lesson can be researched in depth online, in addition to research,
commentaries, dictionaries and lexicons.

SM: Same thing, but more is available.


I've never just done someone elses bible study materials alone because
many bible studies are put together to lead a person down some
particular road to a specific agenda.

SM: I'd say that about ALL bible study materials.


A generic study tool like the blueletterbible.org doesn't promote any
denominational agenda,

SM: They have their own agenda, may or not agree
with an existing church. But, I'm sure they do
have a set of beliefs.


therefore, a person can study and find out for
themselves what the text really says vs. what someone else wants to lead
you to so you'll be programmed to believe what they tell you to believe.
I decide what I will believe based on research on any given topic, and
that includes the bible. It's another reason why I can't and don't
promote any particular denomination because they all have an agenda.
I'm not saying they're bad because of it, but religion can turn people
into mindless drones who can only do and believe what they're told.

SM: I do believe that all churches have an "acceptable"
doctrine.



You know the truth of the message because the Holy
Ghost testifies of the truth. Which I've never found
in any other church or denomination.

The Holy Ghost is supposed to be the fulfillment of a promise Christ
made that when he left this Earth a helper would come to us, and we'd be
filled with the Holy Spirit. The HS isn't about denomination, although,
some denominations emphasize the HS more than others.


SM: And, so, that's what your belief system says about
the Holy Ghost / Holy Spirit.

On 1/10/2016 11:32 PM, Muggles wrote:
On 1/10/2016 9:46 PM, Stormin Mormon wrote:

What do you think about this text:

Gal 2:16 Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law,
but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ,
that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works
of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.


It's been a few weeks, and my memory may be
failing. But not long ago, T tried his best
to get me into a scripture discussion, which
led to his trying to "prove" that I was wrong.
Prefer not to do that again. Waste of my
time, as the Spirit confirms what I know, and
his "proof" left me cold.

I think you should look it up on www.lds.org if
you want to learn more.

--
..
Christopher A. Young
learn more about Jesus
.. www.lds.org
..
..

Eagle posted for all of us...



Stormin Mormon laid this down on his screen :
On 1/9/2016 11:54 PM, Muggles wrote:
On 1/9/2016 3:51 PM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
Mr. T on the other hand is a bit nicer. He's a
Bible believing Christian who is determined to
get out of the Mormon Cult, and back to Bible
Christianity. For his sincere concern, I do
respect him. Would be nice if he'd quit with that
empty, hollow Jesus and get with the true
church.


The true Church isn't a denomination - it's the body of Christ.


I'm sorry that you can't see things as clearly
as I see them.

Religion is a very personal belief system, so condeming someone who
doesn't believe as you will cause nothing but negativity.

Yes alas, the arguments will go on time eternal. Politics, sex, religion;
all full of unending debate. I live and let live...

--
Tekkie

Uncle Monster posted for all of us...



On Saturday, January 9, 2016 at 10:54:18 PM UTC-6, Muggles wrote:
On 1/9/2016 3:51 PM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
On 1/9/2016 12:19 PM, Eagle wrote:
Stormin Mormon expressed precisely :
Maybe you have not what wasn't actually there?
The regular posters on alternating havoc really
impolite to me over a period of years. It is
very possible they took any thing they could, and
twisted it to appear what it wasn't.

And maybe I'm neither a troll nor an idiot, except
in this one person's mind.

I believe that Stormy. I know several posters who are full of suspicion
and paranoia. Say one word out of place and you are treated like T dude
is treating you, Stormy.
This NG is not for hating or spreading hate. [Unless you are Monster,
then you can hate everyone with enthusiazim. ^^

Tekkie has been a bit of a concern.

Mr. T on the other hand is a bit nicer. He's a
Bible believing Christian who is determined to
get out of the Mormon Cult, and back to Bible
Christianity. For his sincere concern, I do
respect him. Would be nice if he'd quit with that
empty, hollow Jesus and get with the true
church.

The true Church isn't a denomination - it's the body of Christ.
--
Maggie

There is this thing I tell all my Christian friends and relatives,"Don't tell me how good you are, show me." It's a simple concept. ?(?)?

[8~{} Uncle Heretic Monster

Yes, actions speak louder than words.

--
Tekkie

On 1/11/2016 6:12 PM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
On 1/11/2016 11:05 AM, Muggles wrote:


You know the truth of the message because the Holy
Ghost testifies of the truth. Which I've never found
in any other church or denomination.

The Holy Ghost is supposed to be the fulfillment of a promise Christ
made that when he left this Earth a helper would come to us, and we'd be
filled with the Holy Spirit. The HS isn't about denomination, although,
some denominations emphasize the HS more than others.


SM: And, so, that's what your belief system says about
the Holy Ghost / Holy Spirit.

No. The text is what it says about the Holy Ghost/Spirit.


--
Maggie

On 1/11/2016 6:15 PM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
On 1/10/2016 11:32 PM, Muggles wrote:

What do you think about this text:

Gal 2:16 Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law,
but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ,
that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works
of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.


It's been a few weeks, and my memory may be
failing. But not long ago, T tried his best
to get me into a scripture discussion, which
led to his trying to "prove" that I was wrong.

I'm not T, and I was only asking you what you thought about Gal 2:16.

Prefer not to do that again. Waste of my
time, as the Spirit confirms what I know, and
his "proof" left me cold.

I don't understand what you mean.

I think you should look it up on www.lds.org if
you want to learn more.


I'm not interested in looking at the lds website. It doesn't have a
soul, personality, or humanity, and it's not human capable of having a
discussion like you can.

--
Maggie

Stormin Mormon wrote: "SM: And, so, that's what your belief system says about
the Holy Ghost / Holy Spirit. "


OUR belief system? FYI "our" belief system is the
BIBLE itself. Specifically the King James or MEV.

No hoops or hurdles, no saints, no sacrements,
no big ships in the sky, or galactic rulers, no
"Holy Mother". Just direct Bible. Simple.

On 1/13/2016 7:21 AM, wrote:
Stormin Mormon wrote: "SM: And, so, that's what your belief system says about
the Holy Ghost / Holy Spirit. "


OUR belief system? FYI "our" belief system is the
BIBLE itself. Specifically the King James or MEV.

No hoops or hurdles, no saints, no sacrements,
no big ships in the sky, or galactic rulers, no
"Holy Mother". Just direct Bible. Simple.


The Bible readers of the world can't agree on what
the Bible says. I can't really be too impressed.


--
..
Christopher A. Young
learn more about Jesus
.. www.lds.org
..
..

On Wed, 13 Jan 2016 08:07:15 -0500
Stormin Mormon wrote:

On 1/13/2016 7:21 AM, wrote:
Stormin Mormon wrote: "SM: And, so, that's what your belief system
says about the Holy Ghost / Holy Spirit. "


OUR belief system? FYI "our" belief system is the
BIBLE itself. Specifically the King James or MEV.

No hoops or hurdles, no saints, no sacrements,
no big ships in the sky, or galactic rulers, no
"Holy Mother". Just direct Bible. Simple.


The Bible readers of the world can't agree on what
the Bible says. I can't really be too impressed.



Maybe they should bundle up some fat old
hags and send them around knocking on doors?

On 1/13/2016 12:22 AM, Muggles wrote:
It's been a few weeks, and my memory may be
failing. But not long ago, T tried his best
to get me into a scripture discussion, which
led to his trying to "prove" that I was wrong.

I'm not T, and I was only asking you what you thought about Gal 2:16.
SM: And I'm politely replying that I'm suspicious
of posters on usenet who ask me what I think of
this or that scripture.

Prefer not to do that again. Waste of my
time, as the Spirit confirms what I know, and
his "proof" left me cold.

I don't understand what you mean.
SM: Hard to explain to those who never experienced
it. I may not be able to put it in words.

I think you should look it up on www.lds.org if
you want to learn more.


I'm not interested in looking at the lds website. It doesn't have a
soul, personality, or humanity, and it's not human capable of having a
discussion like you can.

SM: Sorry, I won't be much help in this regard.
If you want in person, there are 50,000 plus
LDS missionaries around the world who would love
to visit and chat.


..

On 1/13/2016 12:17 AM, Muggles wrote:
On 1/11/2016 6:12 PM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
On 1/11/2016 11:05 AM, Muggles wrote:


You know the truth of the message because the Holy
Ghost testifies of the truth. Which I've never found
in any other church or denomination.

The Holy Ghost is supposed to be the fulfillment of a promise Christ
made that when he left this Earth a helper would come to us, and we'd be
filled with the Holy Spirit. The HS isn't about denomination, although,
some denominations emphasize the HS more than others.


SM: And, so, that's what your belief system says about
the Holy Ghost / Holy Spirit.

No. The text is what it says about the Holy Ghost/Spirit.



Which text?
It; what?

--
..
Christopher A. Young
learn more about Jesus
.. www.lds.org
..
..

On 1/13/2016 11:03 AM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
On 1/13/2016 12:17 AM, Muggles wrote:
On 1/11/2016 6:12 PM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
On 1/11/2016 11:05 AM, Muggles wrote:


You know the truth of the message because the Holy
Ghost testifies of the truth. Which I've never found
in any other church or denomination.

The Holy Ghost is supposed to be the fulfillment of a promise Christ
made that when he left this Earth a helper would come to us, and
we'd be
filled with the Holy Spirit. The HS isn't about denomination,
although,
some denominations emphasize the HS more than others.

SM: And, so, that's what your belief system says about
the Holy Ghost / Holy Spirit.

No. The text is what it says about the Holy Ghost/Spirit.


Which text?

John 14:16
And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter,
that he may abide with you for ever;

John 14:26
But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in
my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your
remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

John 15:26
But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the
Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he
shall testify of me:

John 16:7
Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go
away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if
I depart, I will send him unto you.

It; what?


It: The Comforter, which if the Holy Ghost.

What: Christ sent the Comforter to the believers. It says nothing about
sending the Comforter to a denomination.

Reading John chapters 14, 15, & 16 gives more in depth information.

--
Maggie

On 1/13/2016 7:07 AM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
On 1/13/2016 7:21 AM, wrote:
Stormin Mormon wrote: "SM: And, so, that's what your belief system
says about
the Holy Ghost / Holy Spirit. "


OUR belief system? FYI "our" belief system is the
BIBLE itself. Specifically the King James or MEV.

No hoops or hurdles, no saints, no sacrements,
no big ships in the sky, or galactic rulers, no
"Holy Mother". Just direct Bible. Simple.


The Bible readers of the world can't agree on what
the Bible says. I can't really be too impressed.



Most can agree on the actual text of the Bible. The interpretation of
various scriptures is more along the lines of what some people disagree on.

--
Maggie

On 1/13/2016 11:01 AM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
On 1/13/2016 12:22 AM, Muggles wrote:
It's been a few weeks, and my memory may be
failing. But not long ago, T tried his best
to get me into a scripture discussion, which
led to his trying to "prove" that I was wrong.

I'm not T, and I was only asking you what you thought about Gal 2:16.

SM: And I'm politely replying that I'm suspicious
of posters on usenet who ask me what I think of
this or that scripture.

Well, thus far haven't I been polite in our discussions??

Prefer not to do that again. Waste of my
time, as the Spirit confirms what I know, and
his "proof" left me cold.

I don't understand what you mean.

SM: Hard to explain to those who never experienced
it. I may not be able to put it in words.

Try me.

I think you should look it up on www.lds.org if
you want to learn more.

I'm not interested in looking at the lds website. It doesn't have a
soul, personality, or humanity, and it's not human capable of having a
discussion like you can.


SM: Sorry, I won't be much help in this regard.
If you want in person, there are 50,000 plus
LDS missionaries around the world who would love
to visit and chat.

I didn't say anything about "in person". I was just referring to
interacting with another human who can discuss a topic.

--
Maggie

On 01/11/2016 04:15 PM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
It's been a few weeks,

Hi Stormin,

I just caught the thread. I can not read every posting, so I
do not know when something is meant for me specifically unless
the subject line starts with "ping: T" or "ping: Todd".

Sorry I missed your letter.

-T