We are coming to the end of having a new staircase fitted. Apart from
specifying and ordering, my total involvement so far has been helping
manoeuvre it through the front door and machining up a strip of farm Oak
to finish the landing return!
I don't think beeswax is ideal as a stair finish but what should I use?
My carpenters have recommended *Osmo* which is a fancy finishing oil
from Germany.
Attempting to buy some through Amazon, I got caught by their new secure
login: where you have to *tap* the message sent to your mobile! Are
geriatric/Luddites not allowed to shop anymore! I suppose I could get
the catering dept. to use her account. Two birds with one stone as the
new stair was entirely her idea!
--
Tim Lamb

Tim Lamb wrote:

I don't think beeswax is ideal as a stair finish but what should I use?

For my oak desk, I used polyvine wax finish satin varnish, it's a nice
natural look, not "shiny" or slippy so I think it's be ok for socked
feet on stairs ...

On 12/01/2021 18:16, Tim Lamb wrote:
We are coming to the end of having a new staircase fitted. Apart from
specifying and ordering, my total involvement so far has been helping
manoeuvre it through the front door and machining up a strip of farm Oak
to finish the landing return!
I don't think beeswax is ideal as a stair finish but what should I use?
My carpenters have recommended *Osmo* which is a fancy finishing oil
from Germany.
Attempting to buy some through Amazon, I got caught by their new secure
login: where you have to *tap* the message sent to your mobile! Are
geriatric/Luddites not allowed to shop anymore! I suppose I could get
the catering dept. to use her account. Two birds with one stone as the
new stair was entirely her idea!
I've used Osmo frequently, very good but not cheap. In case you aren't
aware there's a range of types so a bit of research is needed. Also, you
may well find cheaper suppliers (on feebay or elsewhere) than Amazon.

On 12/01/2021 18:32, wrote:
On 12/01/2021 18:16, Tim Lamb wrote:
We are coming to the end of having a new staircase fitted. Apart from
specifying and ordering, my total involvement so far has been helping
manoeuvre it through the front door and machining up a strip of farm
Oak to finish the landing return!
I don't think beeswax is ideal as a stair finish but what should I
use? My carpenters have recommended *Osmo* which is a fancy finishing
oil from Germany.
Attempting to buy some through Amazon, I got caught by their new
secure login: where you have to *tap* the message sent to your mobile!
Are geriatric/Luddites not allowed to shop anymore! I suppose I could
get the catering dept. to use her account. Two birds with one stone as
the new stair was entirely her idea!
I've used Osmo frequently, very good but not cheap. In case you aren't
aware there's a range of types so a bit of research is needed. Also, you
may well find cheaper suppliers (on feebay or elsewhere) than Amazon.
+1 for Osmo, nice finish used it in a bathroom and for door thresholds.

In message ,
writes
On 12/01/2021 18:16, Tim Lamb wrote:
We are coming to the end of having a new staircase fitted. Apart from
specifying and ordering, my total involvement so far has been helping
manoeuvre it through the front door and machining up a strip of farm
Oak to finish the landing return!
I don't think beeswax is ideal as a stair finish but what should I
use? My carpenters have recommended *Osmo* which is a fancy finishing
oil from Germany.
Attempting to buy some through Amazon, I got caught by their new
secure login: where you have to *tap* the message sent to your
mobile! Are geriatric/Luddites not allowed to shop anymore! I suppose
I could get the catering dept. to use her account. Two birds with one
stone as the new stair was entirely her idea!
I've used Osmo frequently, very good but not cheap. In case you aren't
aware there's a range of types so a bit of research is needed. Also,
you may well find cheaper suppliers (on feebay or elsewhere) than Amazon.

Indeed. I have an order penciled in with a supplier at Folkestone.

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In message , Robert
writes
On 12/01/2021 18:32, wrote:
On 12/01/2021 18:16, Tim Lamb wrote:
We are coming to the end of having a new staircase fitted. Apart
from specifying and ordering, my total involvement so far has been
helping manoeuvre it through the front door and machining up a strip
of farm Oak to finish the landing return!
I don't think beeswax is ideal as a stair finish but what should I
use? My carpenters have recommended *Osmo* which is a fancy finishing
oil from Germany.
Attempting to buy some through Amazon, I got caught by their new
secure login: where you have to *tap* the message sent to your
mobile! Are geriatric/Luddites not allowed to shop anymore! I
suppose I could get the catering dept. to use her account. Two birds
with one stone as the new stair was entirely her idea!
I've used Osmo frequently, very good but not cheap. In case you
aren't aware there's a range of types so a bit of research is needed.
Also, you may well find cheaper suppliers (on feebay or elsewhere)
than Amazon.
+1 for Osmo, nice finish used it in a bathroom and for door thresholds.

OK. I'll ask the carpenters for details tomorrow when they fit the GLASS
balustrades:-)

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Tim Lamb

On Tue, 12 Jan 2021 18:16:43 +0000, Tim Lamb
wrote:

snip
Attempting to buy some through Amazon, I got caught by their new secure
login: where you have to *tap* the message sent to your mobile! Are
geriatric/Luddites not allowed to shop anymore!
snip

Tell me about it! I am ordering on my laptop and my primitive,
voice-and-text-only featurephone rings with a click-through link in
the SMS. Except I can't click through on a featurephone. So far I have
succeeded by typing the link, character by character, into my laptop
browser but why can't they just send an authorisation code like
everybody else does?

Nick

Nick Odell wrote:

Tim Lamb wrote:

Attempting to buy some through Amazon, I got caught by their new secure
login: where you have to *tap* the message sent to your mobile!

Tell me about it! I am ordering on my laptop and my primitive,
voice-and-text-only featurephone rings with a click-through link in
the SMS.

I've made one amazon order this year, and none of this SMS malarkey ...

That only happens sometimes. I think its done randomly, since normally there
is no issue. Its not that hard as its quite a short number to remember
usually. There is a lot of fraud going on just now.

Brian

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"Tim Lamb" wrote in message
...
We are coming to the end of having a new staircase fitted. Apart from
specifying and ordering, my total involvement so far has been helping
manoeuvre it through the front door and machining up a strip of farm Oak
to finish the landing return!
I don't think beeswax is ideal as a stair finish but what should I use? My
carpenters have recommended *Osmo* which is a fancy finishing oil from
Germany.
Attempting to buy some through Amazon, I got caught by their new secure
login: where you have to *tap* the message sent to your mobile! Are
geriatric/Luddites not allowed to shop anymore! I suppose I could get the
catering dept. to use her account. Two birds with one stone as the new
stair was entirely her idea!
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In message , "Brian Gaff (Sofa)"
writes
That only happens sometimes. I think its done randomly, since normally there
is no issue. Its not that hard as its quite a short number to remember
usually. There is a lot of fraud going on just now.

This isn't just a code number to type into your browser but a
*clickable* link. Hopefully their IT dept. will get a sharp kick:-)

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On 13/01/2021 08:54, Tim Lamb wrote:
In message , "Brian Gaff (Sofa)"
writes
That only happens sometimes. I think its done randomly, since normally
there
is no issue. Its not that hard as its quite a short number to remember
usually. There is a lot of fraud going on just now.

This isn't just a code number to type into your browser but a
*clickable* link. Hopefully their IT dept. will get a sharp kick:-)


FWLIW I still receive simple message with a 6 digit OTP. I also still
have the option to have the OTP sent by voice call. You could see if
you can switch to voice call (in Your Account ۼ Login & security ۼ
Two-Step Verification (2SV) Settings).

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On 12/01/2021 22:29, Nick Odell wrote:
On Tue, 12 Jan 2021 18:16:43 +0000, Tim Lamb
wrote:

snip
Attempting to buy some through Amazon, I got caught by their new secure
login: where you have to *tap* the message sent to your mobile! Are
geriatric/Luddites not allowed to shop anymore!
snip

Tell me about it! I am ordering on my laptop and my primitive,
voice-and-text-only featurephone rings with a click-through link in
the SMS. Except I can't click through on a featurephone. So far I have
succeeded by typing the link, character by character, into my laptop
browser but why can't they just send an authorisation code like
everybody else does?


Surely they are only sending the security settings by the means you
specified?

I haven't had this with Amazon yet but with other similar systems I've
had the options of text/sms, email, and automated voice via normal
landline phone.


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On 12/01/2021 22:34, Andy Burns wrote:


I've made one amazon order this year, and none of this SMS malarkey ...

It may depend on what you do. You may see the security kick in at
random, when changing from the normal payment method (new card etc.) or
changing delivery address.

For instance, one building society account I have only seems to want the
extra security when transferring money out of the account but not for
logging in for checking etc.






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On Tuesday, January 12, 2021 at 6:17:01 PM UTC, Tim Lamb wrote:
We are coming to the end of having a new staircase fitted. Apart from
specifying and ordering, my total involvement so far has been helping
manoeuvre it through the front door and machining up a strip of farm Oak
to finish the landing return!
I don't think beeswax is ideal as a stair finish but what should I use?
My carpenters have recommended *Osmo* which is a fancy finishing oil
from Germany.
Attempting to buy some through Amazon, I got caught by their new secure
login: where you have to *tap* the message sent to your mobile! Are
geriatric/Luddites not allowed to shop anymore! I suppose I could get
the catering dept. to use her account. Two birds with one stone as the
new stair was entirely her idea!
--
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Don't give it your phone number. Most sites I've used with two factor id offer a choice between phone or email

In message , alan_m
writes
On 12/01/2021 22:34, Andy Burns wrote:

I've made one amazon order this year, and none of this SMS malarkey
...

It may depend on what you do. You may see the security kick in at
random, when changing from the normal payment method (new card etc.) or
changing delivery address.

For instance, one building society account I have only seems to want
the extra security when transferring money out of the account but not
for logging in for checking etc.

If I ever get logged back in I plan to delete my mobile number and give
them the landline:-)

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On 12/01/2021 18:16, Tim Lamb wrote:
We are coming to the end of having a new staircase fitted. Apart from
specifying and ordering, my total involvement so far has been helping
manoeuvre it through the front door and machining up a strip of farm Oak
to finish the landing return!
I don't think beeswax is ideal as a stair finish but what should I use?
My carpenters have recommended *Osmo* which is a fancy finishing oil
from Germany.
Attempting to buy some through Amazon, I got caught by their new secure
login: where you have to *tap* the message sent to your mobile! Are
geriatric/Luddites not allowed to shop anymore! I suppose I could get
the catering dept. to use her account. Two birds with one stone as the
new stair was entirely her idea!

To be honest indoors Danish oil is pretty good = apply it over bare wood
or just a wipe with a spirit stain first for more colour.

A traditional glossy finish - well cellulose lacquer over stain.




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On Wed, 13 Jan 2021 09:43:03 +0000, alan_m
wrote:

On 12/01/2021 22:29, Nick Odell wrote:
On Tue, 12 Jan 2021 18:16:43 +0000, Tim Lamb
wrote:

snip
Attempting to buy some through Amazon, I got caught by their new secure
login: where you have to *tap* the message sent to your mobile! Are
geriatric/Luddites not allowed to shop anymore!
snip

Tell me about it! I am ordering on my laptop and my primitive,
voice-and-text-only featurephone rings with a click-through link in
the SMS. Except I can't click through on a featurephone. So far I have
succeeded by typing the link, character by character, into my laptop
browser but why can't they just send an authorisation code like
everybody else does?


Surely they are only sending the security settings by the means you
specified?

It is sent as an (authorised) SMS but instead of a short code to enter
into your browser they send a fairly long, clickable link - ie
breaking out of the SMS system


I haven't had this with Amazon yet but with other similar systems I've
had the options of text/sms, email, and automated voice via normal
landline phone.

You have the pleasure of Amazon yet to come, then :-)

Nick

On 12/01/2021 18:16, Tim Lamb wrote:

We are coming to the end of having a new staircase fitted. Apart from
specifying and ordering, my total involvement so far has been helping
manoeuvre it through the front door and machining up a strip of farm Oak
to finish the landing return!
I don't think beeswax is ideal as a stair finish but what should I use?
My carpenters have recommended *Osmo* which is a fancy finishing oil
from Germany.

Yup its a good hybrid product with traditional oils and varnishes and
waxes in various concoctions. A bit more hard wearing that an oiled
finish on its own.

Axminster do lots of them:

https://www.axminstertools.com/insta.../result?q=osmo

To keep the price down you could also just go for a traditional oil
finish on the bits you only look at, and reserve the posher stuff for
the high contact bits.

http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php/...finishing_oils

Attempting to buy some through Amazon, I got caught by their new secure
login: where you have to *tap* the message sent to your mobile! Are
geriatric/Luddites not allowed to shop anymore!

Probably just a reflection that the geriatric Luddites are prime targets
for scams, so getting them on the case with two factor authentication is
a good move for all concerned!

I suppose I could get
the catering dept. to use her account. Two birds with one stone as the
new stair was entirely her idea!

:-)


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On 12/01/2021 22:29, Nick Odell wrote:
On Tue, 12 Jan 2021 18:16:43 +0000, Tim Lamb
wrote:

snip
Attempting to buy some through Amazon, I got caught by their new secure
login: where you have to *tap* the message sent to your mobile! Are
geriatric/Luddites not allowed to shop anymore!
snip

Tell me about it! I am ordering on my laptop and my primitive,
voice-and-text-only featurephone rings with a click-through link in
the SMS. Except I can't click through on a featurephone. So far I have
succeeded by typing the link, character by character, into my laptop
browser but why can't they just send an authorisation code like
everybody else does?

Might be worth checking if there is PC based app that works with the
feature phone. Most makers have such things to allow backing up of the
phones etc and access to contacts. Many also allow the PC to be used to
view and send text messages. That makes it *much* easier to copy things
like URLs from messages.


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On 12/01/2021 20:07, Tim Lamb wrote:
In message , Robert
writes
On 12/01/2021 18:32, wrote:
On 12/01/2021 18:16, Tim Lamb wrote:
We are coming to the end of having a new staircase fitted. Apart
fromÂ* specifying and ordering, my total involvement so far has been
helpingÂ* manoeuvre it through the front door and machining up a
strip of farmÂ* Oak to finish the landing return!
I don't think beeswax is ideal as a stair finish but what should I
use? My carpenters have recommended *Osmo* which is a fancy
finishing oil from Germany.
Attempting to buy some through Amazon, I got caught by their new
secure login: where you have to *tap* the message sent to your
mobile!Â* Are geriatric/Luddites not allowed to shop anymore! I
suppose I couldÂ* get the catering dept. to use her account. Two
birds with one stone asÂ* the new stair was entirely her idea!
I've used Osmo frequently, very good but not cheap. In case you
aren'tÂ* aware there's a range of types so a bit of research is
needed. Also, youÂ* may well find cheaper suppliers (on feebay or
elsewhere) than Amazon.
+1 for Osmo, nice finish used it in a bathroom and for door thresholds.

OK. I'll ask the carpenters for details tomorrow when they fit the GLASS
balustrades:-)


Oh dear. Another catering-department decision ?.

In message , Andrew
writes
On 12/01/2021 20:07, Tim Lamb wrote:
In message , Robert
writes
On 12/01/2021 18:32, wrote:
On 12/01/2021 18:16, Tim Lamb wrote:
We are coming to the end of having a new staircase fitted. Apart
from* specifying and ordering, my total involvement so far has been
helping* manoeuvre it through the front door and machining up a
strip of farm* Oak to finish the landing return!
I don't think beeswax is ideal as a stair finish but what should I
use? My carpenters have recommended *Osmo* which is a fancy
finishing oil from Germany.
Attempting to buy some through Amazon, I got caught by their new
secure login: where you have to *tap* the message sent to your
mobile!* Are geriatric/Luddites not allowed to shop anymore! I
suppose I could* get the catering dept. to use her account. Two
birds with one stone as* the new stair was entirely her idea!
I've used Osmo frequently, very good but not cheap. In case you
aren't* aware there's a range of types so a bit of research is
needed. Also, you* may well find cheaper suppliers (on feebay or
elsewhere) than Amazon.
+1 for Osmo, nice finish used it in a bathroom and for door thresholds.
OK. I'll ask the carpenters for details tomorrow when they fit the
GLASS balustrades:-)


Oh dear. Another catering-department decision ?.

I know my place!


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On Wed, 13 Jan 2021 14:15:22 +0000, John Rumm
wrote:

On 12/01/2021 22:29, Nick Odell wrote:
On Tue, 12 Jan 2021 18:16:43 +0000, Tim Lamb
wrote:

snip
Attempting to buy some through Amazon, I got caught by their new secure
login: where you have to *tap* the message sent to your mobile! Are
geriatric/Luddites not allowed to shop anymore!
snip

Tell me about it! I am ordering on my laptop and my primitive,
voice-and-text-only featurephone rings with a click-through link in
the SMS. Except I can't click through on a featurephone. So far I have
succeeded by typing the link, character by character, into my laptop
browser but why can't they just send an authorisation code like
everybody else does?

Might be worth checking if there is PC based app that works with the
feature phone. Most makers have such things to allow backing up of the
phones etc and access to contacts. Many also allow the PC to be used to
view and send text messages. That makes it *much* easier to copy things
like URLs from messages.

I will check but I suspect the answer, for this cheapo model is "no."
I never use its camera because the only way to get the pictures out is
to bluetooth them over to the PC and even though the earphone and
power both use the same micro-usb nothing else gets recognised when I
connect it to a PC.

Thanks for the suggestion though: I will follow it up.

Nick

On 13/01/2021 15:27, Nick Odell wrote:
On Wed, 13 Jan 2021 14:15:22 +0000, John Rumm
wrote:

On 12/01/2021 22:29, Nick Odell wrote:
On Tue, 12 Jan 2021 18:16:43 +0000, Tim Lamb
wrote:

snip
Attempting to buy some through Amazon, I got caught by their new secure
login: where you have to *tap* the message sent to your mobile! Are
geriatric/Luddites not allowed to shop anymore!
snip

Tell me about it! I am ordering on my laptop and my primitive,
voice-and-text-only featurephone rings with a click-through link in
the SMS. Except I can't click through on a featurephone. So far I have
succeeded by typing the link, character by character, into my laptop
browser but why can't they just send an authorisation code like
everybody else does?

Might be worth checking if there is PC based app that works with the
feature phone. Most makers have such things to allow backing up of the
phones etc and access to contacts. Many also allow the PC to be used to
view and send text messages. That makes it *much* easier to copy things
like URLs from messages.

I will check but I suspect the answer, for this cheapo model is "no."
I never use its camera because the only way to get the pictures out is
to bluetooth them over to the PC and even though the earphone and
power both use the same micro-usb nothing else gets recognised when I
connect it to a PC.

Thanks for the suggestion though: I will follow it up.

What model of phone is it?



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On 12/01/2021 18:16, Tim Lamb wrote:
We are coming to the end of having a new staircase fitted. Apart from
specifying and ordering, my total involvement so far has been helping
manoeuvre it through the front door and machining up a strip of farm Oak
to finish the landing return!
I don't think beeswax is ideal as a stair finish but what should I use?
My carpenters have recommended *Osmo* which is a fancy finishing oil
from Germany.

It is an oil that a lot of professionals use. I know someone who swears
by the stuff,

Attempting to buy some through Amazon, I got caught by their new secure
login: where you have to *tap* the message sent to your mobile! Are
geriatric/Luddites not allowed to shop anymore! I suppose I could get
the catering dept. to use her account. Two birds with one stone as the
new stair was entirely her idea!

I thought it was associated with news laws regarding privacy and how
liability from fraud has switched to banks and suppliers.

I think you have no choice but to accept their demand, or pass the buck
as suggested! :-)

On Wed, 13 Jan 2021 16:04:53 +0000, John Rumm
wrote:

On 13/01/2021 15:27, Nick Odell wrote:
On Wed, 13 Jan 2021 14:15:22 +0000, John Rumm
wrote:

On 12/01/2021 22:29, Nick Odell wrote:
On Tue, 12 Jan 2021 18:16:43 +0000, Tim Lamb
wrote:

snip
Attempting to buy some through Amazon, I got caught by their new secure
login: where you have to *tap* the message sent to your mobile! Are
geriatric/Luddites not allowed to shop anymore!
snip

Tell me about it! I am ordering on my laptop and my primitive,
voice-and-text-only featurephone rings with a click-through link in
the SMS. Except I can't click through on a featurephone. So far I have
succeeded by typing the link, character by character, into my laptop
browser but why can't they just send an authorisation code like
everybody else does?

Might be worth checking if there is PC based app that works with the
feature phone. Most makers have such things to allow backing up of the
phones etc and access to contacts. Many also allow the PC to be used to
view and send text messages. That makes it *much* easier to copy things
like URLs from messages.

I will check but I suspect the answer, for this cheapo model is "no."
I never use its camera because the only way to get the pictures out is
to bluetooth them over to the PC and even though the earphone and
power both use the same micro-usb nothing else gets recognised when I
connect it to a PC.

Thanks for the suggestion though: I will follow it up.

What model of phone is it?

It's branded Vodafone 340 and it really is a basic featurephone.

Nick

In message , Fredxx
writes
On 12/01/2021 18:16, Tim Lamb wrote:
We are coming to the end of having a new staircase fitted. Apart from
specifying and ordering, my total involvement so far has been helping
manoeuvre it through the front door and machining up a strip of farm
Oak to finish the landing return!
I don't think beeswax is ideal as a stair finish but what should I
use? My carpenters have recommended *Osmo* which is a fancy finishing
oil from Germany.

It is an oil that a lot of professionals use. I know someone who swears
by the stuff,

Perhaps someone could explain what is meant by *lint free cloth*. I had
in mind surreptitiously acquiring a handy teacloth:-)



Attempting to buy some through Amazon, I got caught by their new
secure login: where you have to *tap* the message sent to your
mobile! Are geriatric/Luddites not allowed to shop anymore! I suppose
I could get the catering dept. to use her account. Two birds with one
stone as the new stair was entirely her idea!

Actually Howdens have an offer on 1l door oil from Osmo so I plan to try
that. Raw is said to contain a whitener to offset the darkening effect
of the satin version.
Slow drying, which is inconvenient for stairs!

I thought it was associated with news laws regarding privacy and how
liability from fraud has switched to banks and suppliers.

I think you have no choice but to accept their demand, or pass the buck
as suggested! :-)

I have tried various login routes and failed to get anywhere. Perhaps
Amazon consider this a success. I may try their help line tomorrow.


--
Tim Lamb

On 13/01/2021 20:14, Tim Lamb wrote:
In message , Fredxx
writes
On 12/01/2021 18:16, Tim Lamb wrote:
We are coming to the end of having a new staircase fitted. Apart from
specifying and ordering, my total involvement so far has been helping
manoeuvre it through the front door and machining up a strip of farm
OakÂ* to finish the landing return!
I don't think beeswax is ideal as a stair finish but what should I
use?Â* My carpenters have recommended *Osmo* which is a fancy
finishing oilÂ* from Germany.

It is an oil that a lot of professionals use. I know someone who
swears by the stuff,

Perhaps someone could explain what is meant by *lint free cloth*. I had
in mind surreptitiously acquiring a handy teacloth:-)

Something that does not shed fibres into your nice finish while applying it!


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John.

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On 15 Jan 2021 at 00:26:44 GMT, "John Rumm"
wrote:

On 13/01/2021 20:14, Tim Lamb wrote:
In message , Fredxx
writes
On 12/01/2021 18:16, Tim Lamb wrote:
We are coming to the end of having a new staircase fitted. Apart from
specifying and ordering, my total involvement so far has been helping
manoeuvre it through the front door and machining up a strip of farm
OakÂ* to finish the landing return!
I don't think beeswax is ideal as a stair finish but what should I
use?Â* My carpenters have recommended *Osmo* which is a fancy
finishing oilÂ* from Germany.

It is an oil that a lot of professionals use. I know someone who
swears by the stuff,

Perhaps someone could explain what is meant by *lint free cloth*. I had
in mind surreptitiously acquiring a handy teacloth:-)

Something that does not shed fibres into your nice finish while applying it!

Microfibre or fine linen (chamois substitute) cloths are practical solutions.

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Roger Hayter

In message , John
Rumm writes
On 13/01/2021 20:14, Tim Lamb wrote:
In message , Fredxx
writes
On 12/01/2021 18:16, Tim Lamb wrote:
We are coming to the end of having a new staircase fitted. Apart
from specifying and ordering, my total involvement so far has been
helping manoeuvre it through the front door and machining up a
strip of farm Oak* to finish the landing return!
I don't think beeswax is ideal as a stair finish but what should I
use?* My carpenters have recommended *Osmo* which is a fancy
finishing oil* from Germany.

It is an oil that a lot of professionals use. I know someone who
swears by the stuff,
Perhaps someone could explain what is meant by *lint free cloth*. I
had in mind surreptitiously acquiring a handy teacloth:-)

Something that does not shed fibres into your nice finish while applying it!

Indeed. Current thinking is a cast off bed sheet. Progress so far has
been to re-establish the boss's TV viewing area while I wait for the
plaster repairs to set hard.



--
Tim Lamb

On 15/01/2021 09:07, Tim Lamb wrote:
In message , John
Rumm writes
On 13/01/2021 20:14, Tim Lamb wrote:
In message , Fredxx
writes
On 12/01/2021 18:16, Tim Lamb wrote:
We are coming to the end of having a new staircase fitted. Apart
fromÂ* specifying and ordering, my total involvement so far has been
helpingÂ* manoeuvre it through the front door and machining up a
strip of farmÂ* OakÂ* to finish the landing return!
I don't think beeswax is ideal as a stair finish but what should I
use?Â* My carpenters have recommended *Osmo* which is a fancy
finishing oilÂ* from Germany.

It is an oil that a lot of professionals use. I know someone who
swears by the stuff,
Â*Perhaps someone could explain what is meant by *lint free cloth*. I
hadÂ* in mind surreptitiously acquiring a handy teacloth:-)

Something that does not shed fibres into your nice finish while
applying it!

Indeed. Current thinking is a cast off bed sheet. Progress so far has
been to re-establish the boss's TV viewing area while I wait for the
plaster repairs to set hard.



I use kitchen roll to apply oils.
Or a dry sponge



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making decisions than by putting those decisions in the hands of people
who pay no price for being wrong.€�

Thomas Sowell

On 15/01/2021 10:01, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 15/01/2021 09:07, Tim Lamb wrote:
In message , John
Rumm writes
On 13/01/2021 20:14, Tim Lamb wrote:
In message , Fredxx
writes
On 12/01/2021 18:16, Tim Lamb wrote:
We are coming to the end of having a new staircase fitted. Apart
fromÂ* specifying and ordering, my total involvement so far has
been helpingÂ* manoeuvre it through the front door and machining up
a strip of farmÂ* OakÂ* to finish the landing return!
I don't think beeswax is ideal as a stair finish but what should I
use?Â* My carpenters have recommended *Osmo* which is a fancy
finishing oilÂ* from Germany.

It is an oil that a lot of professionals use. I know someone who
swears by the stuff,
Â*Perhaps someone could explain what is meant by *lint free cloth*. I
hadÂ* in mind surreptitiously acquiring a handy teacloth:-)

Something that does not shed fibres into your nice finish while
applying it!

Indeed. Current thinking is a cast off bed sheet. Progress so far has
been to re-establish the boss's TV viewing area while I wait for the
plaster repairs to set hard.



I use kitchen roll to apply oils.
Or a dry sponge

I find either one of the thin dense foam "sponges" designed for kitchen
wiping up, or the foam finish brushes work well for oil finishes.


--
Cheers,

John.

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On Fri, 15 Jan 2021 09:07:59 +0000, Tim Lamb
wrote:

Indeed. Current thinking is a cast off bed sheet.

Please take the warnings about self-ignition of oil-soaked rags seriously. All
drying oils will oxidize and release heat. Combining flammable solvents, wood
shavings, wood scrapings, sawdust, in a bucket or box is Not A Good Idea; this
combination may catch fire many hours later.

Burn the rags, or soak in water and seal, or place in airtight container, or
spread out to dry in a safe place.


Thomas Prufer

In message , Thomas Prufer
writes
On Fri, 15 Jan 2021 09:07:59 +0000, Tim Lamb
wrote:

Indeed. Current thinking is a cast off bed sheet.

Please take the warnings about self-ignition of oil-soaked rags seriously. All
drying oils will oxidize and release heat. Combining flammable solvents, wood
shavings, wood scrapings, sawdust, in a bucket or box is Not A Good Idea; this
combination may catch fire many hours later.

Burn the rags, or soak in water and seal, or place in airtight container, or
spread out to dry in a safe place.

Good timing.
I'm hoping to start oiling tomorrow. I have had self ignition before but
from car body sealant/glass fibre work.

--
Tim Lamb

On 18/01/2021 09:11, Tim Lamb wrote:
In message , Thomas Prufer
writes
On Fri, 15 Jan 2021 09:07:59 +0000, Tim Lamb

wrote:

Indeed. Current thinking is a cast off bed sheet.

Please take the warnings about self-ignition of oil-soaked rags
seriously. All
drying oils will oxidize and release heat. Combining flammable
solvents, wood
shavings, wood scrapings, sawdust, in a bucket or box is Not A Good
Idea; this
combination may catch fire many hours later.

Burn the rags, or soak in water and seal, or place in airtight
container, or
spread out to dry in a safe place.

Good timing.
I'm hoping to start oiling tomorrow. I have had self ignition before but
from car body sealant/glass fibre work.

Tim: How I apply oil is this.

A small pad of kitchen roll with a little oil applied and then rubbed in
to the wood.

No drips, no spillage. no need for anything beyond masking tape




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Those who want slavery should have the grace to name it by its proper
name. They must face the full meaning of that which they are advocating
or condoning; the full, exact, specific meaning of collectivism, of its
logical implications, of the principles upon which it is based, and of
the ultimate consequences to which these principles will lead. They must
face it, then decide whether this is what they want or not.

Ayn Rand.

On 15/01/2021 09:07, Tim Lamb wrote:
In message , John
Rumm writes
On 13/01/2021 20:14, Tim Lamb wrote:
In message , Fredxx
writes
On 12/01/2021 18:16, Tim Lamb wrote:
We are coming to the end of having a new staircase fitted. Apart
fromÂ* specifying and ordering, my total involvement so far has been
helpingÂ* manoeuvre it through the front door and machining up a
strip of farmÂ* OakÂ* to finish the landing return!
I don't think beeswax is ideal as a stair finish but what should I
use?Â* My carpenters have recommended *Osmo* which is a fancy
finishing oilÂ* from Germany.

It is an oil that a lot of professionals use. I know someone who
swears by the stuff,
Â*Perhaps someone could explain what is meant by *lint free cloth*. I
hadÂ* in mind surreptitiously acquiring a handy teacloth:-)

It does give a very nice finish and it relatively easy to work with.

Something that does not shed fibres into your nice finish while
applying it!

Indeed. Current thinking is a cast off bed sheet. Progress so far has
been to re-establish the boss's TV viewing area while I wait for the
plaster repairs to set hard.

Be careful how you dispose of the scrunched up used rags wet with oil.
The warning that they may spontaneously catch fire after a while is not
an idle threat. Though you do need a fair number of them.

--
Regards,
Martin Brown

In message , The Natural Philosopher
writes
On 18/01/2021 09:11, Tim Lamb wrote:
In message , Thomas
Prufer writes
On Fri, 15 Jan 2021 09:07:59 +0000, Tim Lamb

wrote:

Indeed. Current thinking is a cast off bed sheet.

Please take the warnings about self-ignition of oil-soaked rags
seriously. All
drying oils will oxidize and release heat. Combining flammable
solvents, wood
shavings, wood scrapings, sawdust, in a bucket or box is Not A Good
Idea; this
combination may catch fire many hours later.

Burn the rags, or soak in water and seal, or place in airtight
container, or
spread out to dry in a safe place.
Good timing.
I'm hoping to start oiling tomorrow. I have had self ignition before
but from car body sealant/glass fibre work.

Tim: How I apply oil is this.

A small pad of kitchen roll with a little oil applied and then rubbed
in to the wood.

No drips, no spillage. no need for anything beyond masking tape

OK. My previous experience is limited to winter coating stored outdoor
furniture where drips/overcoating not an issue.

The manufacturers recommendation is to use a natural hair brush and then
wipe off any visible excess after a couple of hours.

I'm still at the preparation stage as matching the paint for the plaster
repairs is not as easy as reading the labels on the tins left over by
the decorators might be imagined:-(

--
Tim Lamb

In message , Tim Lamb
writes
In message , The Natural Philosopher
writes
snip

Tim: How I apply oil is this.

A small pad of kitchen roll with a little oil applied and then rubbed
in to the wood.

No drips, no spillage. no need for anything beyond masking tape

OK. My previous experience is limited to winter coating stored outdoor
furniture where drips/overcoating not an issue.

The manufacturers recommendation is to use a natural hair brush and
then wipe off any visible excess after a couple of hours.

I'm still at the preparation stage as matching the paint for the
plaster repairs is not as easy as reading the labels on the tins left
over by the decorators might be imagined:-(

Ri-ight! The job is more or less done. Glass to put back and some
cleaning to do.

Lessons learned... wiping off the excess is an absolute essential and
even more essential with the second coat. Luckily I have a stock of
disposable rubber gloves left over from the glass fibre roofing job.

Planning. Stairs by their nature and purpose present problems not found
with finishing furniture that you can walk around.

Lighting. Quite a problem in a smallish hall and vital to ensure a full
coating. I used a 250 Watt halogen plus the domestic stuff and still
found hard to see corners. Some sort of diffuse headlamp might have
helped.

Raw door oil. The job is done and looks OK. Without a comparison, it is
difficult to say this is the best product for the job. I wanted to avoid
darkening the Oak and chose this because it has a small amount of white
pigment to offset the normal darkening effect of drying oil.

I will try to put up a photo in due course. Meanwhile a totally
unsolicited compliment to Stairbox who kept exactly to their delivery
promises, were cheaper than two competitors and impressed my carpenters!




--
Tim Lamb