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We are coming to the end of having a new staircase fitted. Apart from
specifying and ordering, my total involvement so far has been helping manoeuvre it through the front door and machining up a strip of farm Oak to finish the landing return! I don't think beeswax is ideal as a stair finish but what should I use? My carpenters have recommended *Osmo* which is a fancy finishing oil from Germany. Attempting to buy some through Amazon, I got caught by their new secure login: where you have to *tap* the message sent to your mobile! Are geriatric/Luddites not allowed to shop anymore! I suppose I could get the catering dept. to use her account. Two birds with one stone as the new stair was entirely her idea! -- Tim Lamb |
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Tim Lamb wrote:
I don't think beeswax is ideal as a stair finish but what should I use? For my oak desk, I used polyvine wax finish satin varnish, it's a nice natural look, not "shiny" or slippy so I think it's be ok for socked feet on stairs ... |
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On 12/01/2021 18:16, Tim Lamb wrote:
We are coming to the end of having a new staircase fitted. Apart from specifying and ordering, my total involvement so far has been helping manoeuvre it through the front door and machining up a strip of farm Oak to finish the landing return! I don't think beeswax is ideal as a stair finish but what should I use? My carpenters have recommended *Osmo* which is a fancy finishing oil from Germany. Attempting to buy some through Amazon, I got caught by their new secure login: where you have to *tap* the message sent to your mobile! Are geriatric/Luddites not allowed to shop anymore! I suppose I could get the catering dept. to use her account. Two birds with one stone as the new stair was entirely her idea! I've used Osmo frequently, very good but not cheap. In case you aren't aware there's a range of types so a bit of research is needed. Also, you may well find cheaper suppliers (on feebay or elsewhere) than Amazon. |
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On Tue, 12 Jan 2021 18:16:43 +0000, Tim Lamb
wrote: snip Attempting to buy some through Amazon, I got caught by their new secure login: where you have to *tap* the message sent to your mobile! Are geriatric/Luddites not allowed to shop anymore! snip Tell me about it! I am ordering on my laptop and my primitive, voice-and-text-only featurephone rings with a click-through link in the SMS. Except I can't click through on a featurephone. So far I have succeeded by typing the link, character by character, into my laptop browser but why can't they just send an authorisation code like everybody else does? Nick |
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Nick Odell wrote:
Tim Lamb wrote: Attempting to buy some through Amazon, I got caught by their new secure login: where you have to *tap* the message sent to your mobile! Tell me about it! I am ordering on my laptop and my primitive, voice-and-text-only featurephone rings with a click-through link in the SMS. I've made one amazon order this year, and none of this SMS malarkey ... |
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That only happens sometimes. I think its done randomly, since normally there
is no issue. Its not that hard as its quite a short number to remember usually. There is a lot of fraud going on just now. Brian -- This newsgroup posting comes to you directly from... The Sofa of Brian Gaff... Blind user, so no pictures please Note this Signature is meaningless.! "Tim Lamb" wrote in message ... We are coming to the end of having a new staircase fitted. Apart from specifying and ordering, my total involvement so far has been helping manoeuvre it through the front door and machining up a strip of farm Oak to finish the landing return! I don't think beeswax is ideal as a stair finish but what should I use? My carpenters have recommended *Osmo* which is a fancy finishing oil from Germany. Attempting to buy some through Amazon, I got caught by their new secure login: where you have to *tap* the message sent to your mobile! Are geriatric/Luddites not allowed to shop anymore! I suppose I could get the catering dept. to use her account. Two birds with one stone as the new stair was entirely her idea! -- Tim Lamb |
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In message , "Brian Gaff (Sofa)"
writes That only happens sometimes. I think its done randomly, since normally there is no issue. Its not that hard as its quite a short number to remember usually. There is a lot of fraud going on just now. This isn't just a code number to type into your browser but a *clickable* link. Hopefully their IT dept. will get a sharp kick:-) -- Tim Lamb |
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On 13/01/2021 08:54, Tim Lamb wrote:
In message , "Brian Gaff (Sofa)" writes That only happens sometimes. I think its done randomly, since normally there is no issue. Its not that hard as its quite a short number to remember usually. There is a lot of fraud going on just now. This isn't just a code number to type into your browser but a *clickable* link. Hopefully their IT dept. will get a sharp kick:-) FWLIW I still receive simple message with a 6 digit OTP. I also still have the option to have the OTP sent by voice call. You could see if you can switch to voice call (in Your Account Login & security Two-Step Verification (2SV) Settings). -- Robin reply-to address is (intended to be) valid |
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On 12/01/2021 22:29, Nick Odell wrote:
On Tue, 12 Jan 2021 18:16:43 +0000, Tim Lamb wrote: snip Attempting to buy some through Amazon, I got caught by their new secure login: where you have to *tap* the message sent to your mobile! Are geriatric/Luddites not allowed to shop anymore! snip Tell me about it! I am ordering on my laptop and my primitive, voice-and-text-only featurephone rings with a click-through link in the SMS. Except I can't click through on a featurephone. So far I have succeeded by typing the link, character by character, into my laptop browser but why can't they just send an authorisation code like everybody else does? Surely they are only sending the security settings by the means you specified? I haven't had this with Amazon yet but with other similar systems I've had the options of text/sms, email, and automated voice via normal landline phone. -- mailto : news {at} admac {dot} myzen {dot} co {dot} uk |
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On 12/01/2021 22:34, Andy Burns wrote:
I've made one amazon order this year, and none of this SMS malarkey ... It may depend on what you do. You may see the security kick in at random, when changing from the normal payment method (new card etc.) or changing delivery address. For instance, one building society account I have only seems to want the extra security when transferring money out of the account but not for logging in for checking etc. -- mailto : news {at} admac {dot} myzen {dot} co {dot} uk |
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On Tuesday, January 12, 2021 at 6:17:01 PM UTC, Tim Lamb wrote:
We are coming to the end of having a new staircase fitted. Apart from specifying and ordering, my total involvement so far has been helping manoeuvre it through the front door and machining up a strip of farm Oak to finish the landing return! I don't think beeswax is ideal as a stair finish but what should I use? My carpenters have recommended *Osmo* which is a fancy finishing oil from Germany. Attempting to buy some through Amazon, I got caught by their new secure login: where you have to *tap* the message sent to your mobile! Are geriatric/Luddites not allowed to shop anymore! I suppose I could get the catering dept. to use her account. Two birds with one stone as the new stair was entirely her idea! -- Tim Lamb Don't give it your phone number. Most sites I've used with two factor id offer a choice between phone or email |
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In message , alan_m
writes On 12/01/2021 22:34, Andy Burns wrote: I've made one amazon order this year, and none of this SMS malarkey ... It may depend on what you do. You may see the security kick in at random, when changing from the normal payment method (new card etc.) or changing delivery address. For instance, one building society account I have only seems to want the extra security when transferring money out of the account but not for logging in for checking etc. If I ever get logged back in I plan to delete my mobile number and give them the landline:-) -- Tim Lamb |
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On 12/01/2021 18:16, Tim Lamb wrote:
We are coming to the end of having a new staircase fitted. Apart from specifying and ordering, my total involvement so far has been helping manoeuvre it through the front door and machining up a strip of farm Oak to finish the landing return! I don't think beeswax is ideal as a stair finish but what should I use? My carpenters have recommended *Osmo* which is a fancy finishing oil from Germany. Attempting to buy some through Amazon, I got caught by their new secure login: where you have to *tap* the message sent to your mobile! Are geriatric/Luddites not allowed to shop anymore! I suppose I could get the catering dept. to use her account. Two birds with one stone as the new stair was entirely her idea! To be honest indoors Danish oil is pretty good = apply it over bare wood or just a wipe with a spirit stain first for more colour. A traditional glossy finish - well cellulose lacquer over stain. -- It is not the truth of Marxism that explains the willingness of intellectuals to believe it, but the power that it confers on intellectuals, in their attempts to control the world. And since...it is futile to reason someone out of a thing that he was not reasoned into, we can conclude that Marxism owes its remarkable power to survive every criticism to the fact that it is not a truth-directed but a power-directed system of thought. Sir Roger Scruton |
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On Wed, 13 Jan 2021 09:43:03 +0000, alan_m
wrote: On 12/01/2021 22:29, Nick Odell wrote: On Tue, 12 Jan 2021 18:16:43 +0000, Tim Lamb wrote: snip Attempting to buy some through Amazon, I got caught by their new secure login: where you have to *tap* the message sent to your mobile! Are geriatric/Luddites not allowed to shop anymore! snip Tell me about it! I am ordering on my laptop and my primitive, voice-and-text-only featurephone rings with a click-through link in the SMS. Except I can't click through on a featurephone. So far I have succeeded by typing the link, character by character, into my laptop browser but why can't they just send an authorisation code like everybody else does? Surely they are only sending the security settings by the means you specified? It is sent as an (authorised) SMS but instead of a short code to enter into your browser they send a fairly long, clickable link - ie breaking out of the SMS system I haven't had this with Amazon yet but with other similar systems I've had the options of text/sms, email, and automated voice via normal landline phone. You have the pleasure of Amazon yet to come, then :-) Nick |
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On 12/01/2021 18:16, Tim Lamb wrote:
We are coming to the end of having a new staircase fitted. Apart from specifying and ordering, my total involvement so far has been helping manoeuvre it through the front door and machining up a strip of farm Oak to finish the landing return! I don't think beeswax is ideal as a stair finish but what should I use? My carpenters have recommended *Osmo* which is a fancy finishing oil from Germany. Yup its a good hybrid product with traditional oils and varnishes and waxes in various concoctions. A bit more hard wearing that an oiled finish on its own. Axminster do lots of them: https://www.axminstertools.com/insta.../result?q=osmo To keep the price down you could also just go for a traditional oil finish on the bits you only look at, and reserve the posher stuff for the high contact bits. http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php/...finishing_oils Attempting to buy some through Amazon, I got caught by their new secure login: where you have to *tap* the message sent to your mobile! Are geriatric/Luddites not allowed to shop anymore! Probably just a reflection that the geriatric Luddites are prime targets for scams, so getting them on the case with two factor authentication is a good move for all concerned! I suppose I could get the catering dept. to use her account. Two birds with one stone as the new stair was entirely her idea! :-) -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
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On 12/01/2021 22:29, Nick Odell wrote:
On Tue, 12 Jan 2021 18:16:43 +0000, Tim Lamb wrote: snip Attempting to buy some through Amazon, I got caught by their new secure login: where you have to *tap* the message sent to your mobile! Are geriatric/Luddites not allowed to shop anymore! snip Tell me about it! I am ordering on my laptop and my primitive, voice-and-text-only featurephone rings with a click-through link in the SMS. Except I can't click through on a featurephone. So far I have succeeded by typing the link, character by character, into my laptop browser but why can't they just send an authorisation code like everybody else does? Might be worth checking if there is PC based app that works with the feature phone. Most makers have such things to allow backing up of the phones etc and access to contacts. Many also allow the PC to be used to view and send text messages. That makes it *much* easier to copy things like URLs from messages. -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
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On 12/01/2021 20:07, Tim Lamb wrote:
In message , Robert writes On 12/01/2021 18:32, wrote: On 12/01/2021 18:16, Tim Lamb wrote: We are coming to the end of having a new staircase fitted. Apart from* specifying and ordering, my total involvement so far has been helping* manoeuvre it through the front door and machining up a strip of farm* Oak to finish the landing return! I don't think beeswax is ideal as a stair finish but what should I use? My carpenters have recommended *Osmo* which is a fancy finishing oil from Germany. Attempting to buy some through Amazon, I got caught by their new secure login: where you have to *tap* the message sent to your mobile!* Are geriatric/Luddites not allowed to shop anymore! I suppose I could* get the catering dept. to use her account. Two birds with one stone as* the new stair was entirely her idea! I've used Osmo frequently, very good but not cheap. In case you aren't* aware there's a range of types so a bit of research is needed. Also, you* may well find cheaper suppliers (on feebay or elsewhere) than Amazon. +1 for Osmo, nice finish used it in a bathroom and for door thresholds. OK. I'll ask the carpenters for details tomorrow when they fit the GLASS balustrades:-) Oh dear. Another catering-department decision ?. |
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In message , Andrew
writes On 12/01/2021 20:07, Tim Lamb wrote: In message , Robert writes On 12/01/2021 18:32, wrote: On 12/01/2021 18:16, Tim Lamb wrote: We are coming to the end of having a new staircase fitted. Apart from* specifying and ordering, my total involvement so far has been helping* manoeuvre it through the front door and machining up a strip of farm* Oak to finish the landing return! I don't think beeswax is ideal as a stair finish but what should I use? My carpenters have recommended *Osmo* which is a fancy finishing oil from Germany. Attempting to buy some through Amazon, I got caught by their new secure login: where you have to *tap* the message sent to your mobile!* Are geriatric/Luddites not allowed to shop anymore! I suppose I could* get the catering dept. to use her account. Two birds with one stone as* the new stair was entirely her idea! I've used Osmo frequently, very good but not cheap. In case you aren't* aware there's a range of types so a bit of research is needed. Also, you* may well find cheaper suppliers (on feebay or elsewhere) than Amazon. +1 for Osmo, nice finish used it in a bathroom and for door thresholds. OK. I'll ask the carpenters for details tomorrow when they fit the GLASS balustrades:-) Oh dear. Another catering-department decision ?. I know my place! -- Tim Lamb |
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On Wed, 13 Jan 2021 14:15:22 +0000, John Rumm
wrote: On 12/01/2021 22:29, Nick Odell wrote: On Tue, 12 Jan 2021 18:16:43 +0000, Tim Lamb wrote: snip Attempting to buy some through Amazon, I got caught by their new secure login: where you have to *tap* the message sent to your mobile! Are geriatric/Luddites not allowed to shop anymore! snip Tell me about it! I am ordering on my laptop and my primitive, voice-and-text-only featurephone rings with a click-through link in the SMS. Except I can't click through on a featurephone. So far I have succeeded by typing the link, character by character, into my laptop browser but why can't they just send an authorisation code like everybody else does? Might be worth checking if there is PC based app that works with the feature phone. Most makers have such things to allow backing up of the phones etc and access to contacts. Many also allow the PC to be used to view and send text messages. That makes it *much* easier to copy things like URLs from messages. I will check but I suspect the answer, for this cheapo model is "no." I never use its camera because the only way to get the pictures out is to bluetooth them over to the PC and even though the earphone and power both use the same micro-usb nothing else gets recognised when I connect it to a PC. Thanks for the suggestion though: I will follow it up. Nick |
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On 13/01/2021 15:27, Nick Odell wrote:
On Wed, 13 Jan 2021 14:15:22 +0000, John Rumm wrote: On 12/01/2021 22:29, Nick Odell wrote: On Tue, 12 Jan 2021 18:16:43 +0000, Tim Lamb wrote: snip Attempting to buy some through Amazon, I got caught by their new secure login: where you have to *tap* the message sent to your mobile! Are geriatric/Luddites not allowed to shop anymore! snip Tell me about it! I am ordering on my laptop and my primitive, voice-and-text-only featurephone rings with a click-through link in the SMS. Except I can't click through on a featurephone. So far I have succeeded by typing the link, character by character, into my laptop browser but why can't they just send an authorisation code like everybody else does? Might be worth checking if there is PC based app that works with the feature phone. Most makers have such things to allow backing up of the phones etc and access to contacts. Many also allow the PC to be used to view and send text messages. That makes it *much* easier to copy things like URLs from messages. I will check but I suspect the answer, for this cheapo model is "no." I never use its camera because the only way to get the pictures out is to bluetooth them over to the PC and even though the earphone and power both use the same micro-usb nothing else gets recognised when I connect it to a PC. Thanks for the suggestion though: I will follow it up. What model of phone is it? -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
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On 12/01/2021 18:16, Tim Lamb wrote:
We are coming to the end of having a new staircase fitted. Apart from specifying and ordering, my total involvement so far has been helping manoeuvre it through the front door and machining up a strip of farm Oak to finish the landing return! I don't think beeswax is ideal as a stair finish but what should I use? My carpenters have recommended *Osmo* which is a fancy finishing oil from Germany. It is an oil that a lot of professionals use. I know someone who swears by the stuff, Attempting to buy some through Amazon, I got caught by their new secure login: where you have to *tap* the message sent to your mobile! Are geriatric/Luddites not allowed to shop anymore! I suppose I could get the catering dept. to use her account. Two birds with one stone as the new stair was entirely her idea! I thought it was associated with news laws regarding privacy and how liability from fraud has switched to banks and suppliers. I think you have no choice but to accept their demand, or pass the buck as suggested! :-) |
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On Wed, 13 Jan 2021 16:04:53 +0000, John Rumm
wrote: On 13/01/2021 15:27, Nick Odell wrote: On Wed, 13 Jan 2021 14:15:22 +0000, John Rumm wrote: On 12/01/2021 22:29, Nick Odell wrote: On Tue, 12 Jan 2021 18:16:43 +0000, Tim Lamb wrote: snip Attempting to buy some through Amazon, I got caught by their new secure login: where you have to *tap* the message sent to your mobile! Are geriatric/Luddites not allowed to shop anymore! snip Tell me about it! I am ordering on my laptop and my primitive, voice-and-text-only featurephone rings with a click-through link in the SMS. Except I can't click through on a featurephone. So far I have succeeded by typing the link, character by character, into my laptop browser but why can't they just send an authorisation code like everybody else does? Might be worth checking if there is PC based app that works with the feature phone. Most makers have such things to allow backing up of the phones etc and access to contacts. Many also allow the PC to be used to view and send text messages. That makes it *much* easier to copy things like URLs from messages. I will check but I suspect the answer, for this cheapo model is "no." I never use its camera because the only way to get the pictures out is to bluetooth them over to the PC and even though the earphone and power both use the same micro-usb nothing else gets recognised when I connect it to a PC. Thanks for the suggestion though: I will follow it up. What model of phone is it? It's branded Vodafone 340 and it really is a basic featurephone. Nick |
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In message , Fredxx
writes On 12/01/2021 18:16, Tim Lamb wrote: We are coming to the end of having a new staircase fitted. Apart from specifying and ordering, my total involvement so far has been helping manoeuvre it through the front door and machining up a strip of farm Oak to finish the landing return! I don't think beeswax is ideal as a stair finish but what should I use? My carpenters have recommended *Osmo* which is a fancy finishing oil from Germany. It is an oil that a lot of professionals use. I know someone who swears by the stuff, Perhaps someone could explain what is meant by *lint free cloth*. I had in mind surreptitiously acquiring a handy teacloth:-) Attempting to buy some through Amazon, I got caught by their new secure login: where you have to *tap* the message sent to your mobile! Are geriatric/Luddites not allowed to shop anymore! I suppose I could get the catering dept. to use her account. Two birds with one stone as the new stair was entirely her idea! Actually Howdens have an offer on 1l door oil from Osmo so I plan to try that. Raw is said to contain a whitener to offset the darkening effect of the satin version. Slow drying, which is inconvenient for stairs! I thought it was associated with news laws regarding privacy and how liability from fraud has switched to banks and suppliers. I think you have no choice but to accept their demand, or pass the buck as suggested! :-) I have tried various login routes and failed to get anywhere. Perhaps Amazon consider this a success. I may try their help line tomorrow. -- Tim Lamb |
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On 13/01/2021 20:14, Tim Lamb wrote:
In message , Fredxx writes On 12/01/2021 18:16, Tim Lamb wrote: We are coming to the end of having a new staircase fitted. Apart from specifying and ordering, my total involvement so far has been helping manoeuvre it through the front door and machining up a strip of farm Oak* to finish the landing return! I don't think beeswax is ideal as a stair finish but what should I use?* My carpenters have recommended *Osmo* which is a fancy finishing oil* from Germany. It is an oil that a lot of professionals use. I know someone who swears by the stuff, Perhaps someone could explain what is meant by *lint free cloth*. I had in mind surreptitiously acquiring a handy teacloth:-) Something that does not shed fibres into your nice finish while applying it! -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
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On 15 Jan 2021 at 00:26:44 GMT, "John Rumm"
wrote: On 13/01/2021 20:14, Tim Lamb wrote: In message , Fredxx writes On 12/01/2021 18:16, Tim Lamb wrote: We are coming to the end of having a new staircase fitted. Apart from specifying and ordering, my total involvement so far has been helping manoeuvre it through the front door and machining up a strip of farm Oak* to finish the landing return! I don't think beeswax is ideal as a stair finish but what should I use?* My carpenters have recommended *Osmo* which is a fancy finishing oil* from Germany. It is an oil that a lot of professionals use. I know someone who swears by the stuff, Perhaps someone could explain what is meant by *lint free cloth*. I had in mind surreptitiously acquiring a handy teacloth:-) Something that does not shed fibres into your nice finish while applying it! Microfibre or fine linen (chamois substitute) cloths are practical solutions. -- Roger Hayter |
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In message , John
Rumm writes On 13/01/2021 20:14, Tim Lamb wrote: In message , Fredxx writes On 12/01/2021 18:16, Tim Lamb wrote: We are coming to the end of having a new staircase fitted. Apart from specifying and ordering, my total involvement so far has been helping manoeuvre it through the front door and machining up a strip of farm Oak* to finish the landing return! I don't think beeswax is ideal as a stair finish but what should I use?* My carpenters have recommended *Osmo* which is a fancy finishing oil* from Germany. It is an oil that a lot of professionals use. I know someone who swears by the stuff, Perhaps someone could explain what is meant by *lint free cloth*. I had in mind surreptitiously acquiring a handy teacloth:-) Something that does not shed fibres into your nice finish while applying it! Indeed. Current thinking is a cast off bed sheet. Progress so far has been to re-establish the boss's TV viewing area while I wait for the plaster repairs to set hard. -- Tim Lamb |
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On 15/01/2021 09:07, Tim Lamb wrote:
In message , John Rumm writes On 13/01/2021 20:14, Tim Lamb wrote: In message , Fredxx writes On 12/01/2021 18:16, Tim Lamb wrote: We are coming to the end of having a new staircase fitted. Apart from* specifying and ordering, my total involvement so far has been helping* manoeuvre it through the front door and machining up a strip of farm* Oak* to finish the landing return! I don't think beeswax is ideal as a stair finish but what should I use?* My carpenters have recommended *Osmo* which is a fancy finishing oil* from Germany. It is an oil that a lot of professionals use. I know someone who swears by the stuff, *Perhaps someone could explain what is meant by *lint free cloth*. I had* in mind surreptitiously acquiring a handy teacloth:-) Something that does not shed fibres into your nice finish while applying it! Indeed. Current thinking is a cast off bed sheet. Progress so far has been to re-establish the boss's TV viewing area while I wait for the plaster repairs to set hard. I use kitchen roll to apply oils. Or a dry sponge -- It is hard to imagine a more stupid decision or more dangerous way of making decisions than by putting those decisions in the hands of people who pay no price for being wrong. Thomas Sowell |
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On 15/01/2021 10:01, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 15/01/2021 09:07, Tim Lamb wrote: In message , John Rumm writes On 13/01/2021 20:14, Tim Lamb wrote: In message , Fredxx writes On 12/01/2021 18:16, Tim Lamb wrote: We are coming to the end of having a new staircase fitted. Apart from* specifying and ordering, my total involvement so far has been helping* manoeuvre it through the front door and machining up a strip of farm* Oak* to finish the landing return! I don't think beeswax is ideal as a stair finish but what should I use?* My carpenters have recommended *Osmo* which is a fancy finishing oil* from Germany. It is an oil that a lot of professionals use. I know someone who swears by the stuff, *Perhaps someone could explain what is meant by *lint free cloth*. I had* in mind surreptitiously acquiring a handy teacloth:-) Something that does not shed fibres into your nice finish while applying it! Indeed. Current thinking is a cast off bed sheet. Progress so far has been to re-establish the boss's TV viewing area while I wait for the plaster repairs to set hard. I use kitchen roll to apply oils. Or a dry sponge I find either one of the thin dense foam "sponges" designed for kitchen wiping up, or the foam finish brushes work well for oil finishes. -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
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On Fri, 15 Jan 2021 09:07:59 +0000, Tim Lamb
wrote: Indeed. Current thinking is a cast off bed sheet. Please take the warnings about self-ignition of oil-soaked rags seriously. All drying oils will oxidize and release heat. Combining flammable solvents, wood shavings, wood scrapings, sawdust, in a bucket or box is Not A Good Idea; this combination may catch fire many hours later. Burn the rags, or soak in water and seal, or place in airtight container, or spread out to dry in a safe place. Thomas Prufer |
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In message , Thomas Prufer
writes On Fri, 15 Jan 2021 09:07:59 +0000, Tim Lamb wrote: Indeed. Current thinking is a cast off bed sheet. Please take the warnings about self-ignition of oil-soaked rags seriously. All drying oils will oxidize and release heat. Combining flammable solvents, wood shavings, wood scrapings, sawdust, in a bucket or box is Not A Good Idea; this combination may catch fire many hours later. Burn the rags, or soak in water and seal, or place in airtight container, or spread out to dry in a safe place. Good timing. I'm hoping to start oiling tomorrow. I have had self ignition before but from car body sealant/glass fibre work. -- Tim Lamb |
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On 18/01/2021 09:11, Tim Lamb wrote:
In message , Thomas Prufer writes On Fri, 15 Jan 2021 09:07:59 +0000, Tim Lamb wrote: Indeed. Current thinking is a cast off bed sheet. Please take the warnings about self-ignition of oil-soaked rags seriously. All drying oils will oxidize and release heat. Combining flammable solvents, wood shavings, wood scrapings, sawdust, in a bucket or box is Not A Good Idea; this combination may catch fire many hours later. Burn the rags, or soak in water and seal, or place in airtight container, or spread out to dry in a safe place. Good timing. I'm hoping to start oiling tomorrow. I have had self ignition before but from car body sealant/glass fibre work. Tim: How I apply oil is this. A small pad of kitchen roll with a little oil applied and then rubbed in to the wood. No drips, no spillage. no need for anything beyond masking tape -- Those who want slavery should have the grace to name it by its proper name. They must face the full meaning of that which they are advocating or condoning; the full, exact, specific meaning of collectivism, of its logical implications, of the principles upon which it is based, and of the ultimate consequences to which these principles will lead. They must face it, then decide whether this is what they want or not. Ayn Rand. |
Finishing Oak.
On 15/01/2021 09:07, Tim Lamb wrote:
In message , John Rumm writes On 13/01/2021 20:14, Tim Lamb wrote: In message , Fredxx writes On 12/01/2021 18:16, Tim Lamb wrote: We are coming to the end of having a new staircase fitted. Apart from* specifying and ordering, my total involvement so far has been helping* manoeuvre it through the front door and machining up a strip of farm* Oak* to finish the landing return! I don't think beeswax is ideal as a stair finish but what should I use?* My carpenters have recommended *Osmo* which is a fancy finishing oil* from Germany. It is an oil that a lot of professionals use. I know someone who swears by the stuff, *Perhaps someone could explain what is meant by *lint free cloth*. I had* in mind surreptitiously acquiring a handy teacloth:-) It does give a very nice finish and it relatively easy to work with. Something that does not shed fibres into your nice finish while applying it! Indeed. Current thinking is a cast off bed sheet. Progress so far has been to re-establish the boss's TV viewing area while I wait for the plaster repairs to set hard. Be careful how you dispose of the scrunched up used rags wet with oil. The warning that they may spontaneously catch fire after a while is not an idle threat. Though you do need a fair number of them. -- Regards, Martin Brown |
Finishing Oak.
In message , The Natural Philosopher
writes On 18/01/2021 09:11, Tim Lamb wrote: In message , Thomas Prufer writes On Fri, 15 Jan 2021 09:07:59 +0000, Tim Lamb wrote: Indeed. Current thinking is a cast off bed sheet. Please take the warnings about self-ignition of oil-soaked rags seriously. All drying oils will oxidize and release heat. Combining flammable solvents, wood shavings, wood scrapings, sawdust, in a bucket or box is Not A Good Idea; this combination may catch fire many hours later. Burn the rags, or soak in water and seal, or place in airtight container, or spread out to dry in a safe place. Good timing. I'm hoping to start oiling tomorrow. I have had self ignition before but from car body sealant/glass fibre work. Tim: How I apply oil is this. A small pad of kitchen roll with a little oil applied and then rubbed in to the wood. No drips, no spillage. no need for anything beyond masking tape OK. My previous experience is limited to winter coating stored outdoor furniture where drips/overcoating not an issue. The manufacturers recommendation is to use a natural hair brush and then wipe off any visible excess after a couple of hours. I'm still at the preparation stage as matching the paint for the plaster repairs is not as easy as reading the labels on the tins left over by the decorators might be imagined:-( -- Tim Lamb |
Finishing Oak.
In message , Tim Lamb
writes In message , The Natural Philosopher writes snip Tim: How I apply oil is this. A small pad of kitchen roll with a little oil applied and then rubbed in to the wood. No drips, no spillage. no need for anything beyond masking tape OK. My previous experience is limited to winter coating stored outdoor furniture where drips/overcoating not an issue. The manufacturers recommendation is to use a natural hair brush and then wipe off any visible excess after a couple of hours. I'm still at the preparation stage as matching the paint for the plaster repairs is not as easy as reading the labels on the tins left over by the decorators might be imagined:-( Ri-ight! The job is more or less done. Glass to put back and some cleaning to do. Lessons learned... wiping off the excess is an absolute essential and even more essential with the second coat. Luckily I have a stock of disposable rubber gloves left over from the glass fibre roofing job. Planning. Stairs by their nature and purpose present problems not found with finishing furniture that you can walk around. Lighting. Quite a problem in a smallish hall and vital to ensure a full coating. I used a 250 Watt halogen plus the domestic stuff and still found hard to see corners. Some sort of diffuse headlamp might have helped. Raw door oil. The job is done and looks OK. Without a comparison, it is difficult to say this is the best product for the job. I wanted to avoid darkening the Oak and chose this because it has a small amount of white pigment to offset the normal darkening effect of drying oil. I will try to put up a photo in due course. Meanwhile a totally unsolicited compliment to Stairbox who kept exactly to their delivery promises, were cheaper than two competitors and impressed my carpenters! -- Tim Lamb |
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