On Tue, 16 Nov 2010 20:11:36 +0000, geoff wrote:

I'm still laughing from the time the geographically challenged retard
challenged me to a race round the Nuremburg ring

He didn't even admit he was wrong when I pointer out that Nurbergring
was nowhere Nuremburg

He's probably more used to Nuremberg rallies!

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In message , Steve Firth
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Clive George wrote:

How do motorbike times on the ring compare to fast car ones?

The bikes are slower.

Porsche 956 6' 11"
Radical SR8 6' 50"
Homda RC30 7' 50"

BUt bike riders tend to be brainless ****s who think that two wheels are
always faster than four.

**** off

those are proper cars driven by people who can take corners properly

denise has to be a volvo driver, I don't see any volvos up there




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geoff

In message , Bob Eager
writes
On Tue, 16 Nov 2010 20:11:36 +0000, geoff wrote:

I'm still laughing from the time the geographically challenged retard
challenged me to a race round the Nuremburg ring

He didn't even admit he was wrong when I pointer out that Nurbergring
was nowhere Nuremburg

He's probably more used to Nuremberg rallies!

Dutzendteich denise?

He prolly thinks its in the middle of the Nurburgring

the Wagner connection would be way over his head

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geoff

geoff wrote:
In message , Steve Firth
writes
Clive George wrote:

How do motorbike times on the ring compare to fast car ones?

The bikes are slower.

Porsche 956 6' 11"
Radical SR8 6' 50"
Homda RC30 7' 50"

BUt bike riders tend to be brainless ****s who think that two wheels
are always faster than four.

**** off

those are proper cars driven by people who can take corners properly

denise has to be a volvo driver, I don't see any volvos up there

Dennis has a Rover 75 and believes that he is middle class.

--
Adam

geoff wrote:

BUt bike riders tend to be brainless ****s who think that two wheels are
always faster than four.

**** off

those are proper cars driven by people who can take corners properly

It's one of the irritations in life that bikes will pass me on the
straights only to hold up progress on the bends. Two-wheeled *******.

geoff wrote:

that's why I said summer - or can't you read ?
any time june to september

Might as well call it for 8th May, sounds like the country will grind to
a halt for a staggering waste of time anyway that day ...

"geoff" wrote in message
...

April fools day might suit you, would be most fitting, in fact, however,
some of us actually have a job, unlike yourself

that's why I said summer - or can't you read ?

I prefer winter, or don't you have the skill to ride in poor weather?

"geof" wrote in message
...

You ****ed up denise - just admit it

Odd that what I said was correct and what you and ARW was wrong and you
think I F'up.
Why don't you admit it?

"ARWadsworth" wrote in message
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dennis@home wrote:
"ARWadsworth" wrote in message
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geoff wrote:
In message , "dennis@home"
writes


"geoff" wrote in message
...

Denise - I have a degree in physics, I well understand how they
work

Well you appear to think the pans have to be magnetic to work.
Shame that that's wrong geof.


Where did I say that, retard?


You didn't. I'll bet you cannot guess who said that they needed to be
magnetic. It was Dennis. See this quote from the "A few electrical
questions thread"

""
I bought one [induction hob], then discovered the pans were
non-magnetic so it was useless
without new pans.
I bought a £1.99 wok from asda and that worked really well..
until I tried full power and it got so hot in a couple of seconds
the oil caught fire.

I decided I wanted gas, its just better than electric for hobs.
"
That is a quote from Denise.

Denise cannot even remember the lies he tells.


Funny that.. nowhere in there does it say they have to be magnetic
only that they don't work because they are non-magnetic.
You should realise that there are different forms of magnetism.
You should also know that induction furnaces work with non ferrous
materials too so iron isn't actually a requirement for induction
heating either.


It certainly is funny. Normal people are ****ing themselves laughing at
you.

Why, because you call me a liar and then you quote what I said to prove it
was you that got it wrong?

dennis@home wrote:
Denise - I have a degree in physics, I well understand how they
work

Well you appear to think the pans have to be magnetic to work.
Shame that that's wrong geof.


Where did I say that, retard?


You didn't. I'll bet you cannot guess who said that they needed to
be magnetic. It was Dennis. See this quote from the "A few
electrical questions thread"

""
I bought one [induction hob], then discovered the pans were
non-magnetic so it was useless
without new pans.
I bought a £1.99 wok from asda and that worked really well..
until I tried full power and it got so hot in a couple of seconds
the oil caught fire.

I decided I wanted gas, its just better than electric for hobs.
"
That is a quote from Denise.

Denise cannot even remember the lies he tells.


Funny that.. nowhere in there does it say they have to be magnetic
only that they don't work because they are non-magnetic.
You should realise that there are different forms of magnetism.
You should also know that induction furnaces work with non ferrous
materials too so iron isn't actually a requirement for induction
heating either.


It certainly is funny. Normal people are ****ing themselves laughing
at you.

Why, because you call me a liar and then you quote what I said to
prove it was you that got it wrong?


Yes I called you a liar. That is because you tell lies.

And you still cannot admit you ****ed up by buying the induction hob and
trying to use your non magnetic pans on it. You are a lying retard.

--
Adam

John Rumm wrote:

On 14/11/2010 15:02, ad wrote:

Included in your bill should be the amount of labour charge, itemising
any costs/time involved in obtaining it, then VAT if you are
registered. This is what transparency is all about. Buying cheap on
the internet and then whistling 'List Price' out of your rear-end to
the customer is immoral and should be illegal too.

You seem to have fundamental lack of understanding of how a commercial
enterprise needs to work. If you simply pass good through your business
at the "price you paid", you are losing money on every single one.

I don't see why that should be the case. Where it is customary to charge
customers on a time and materials basis, it's perfectly OK to charge for
materials "at cost" (without markup), but instead to make sure you count
the time involved in procuring said materials.

Ronald Raygun wrote:
John Rumm wrote:

On 14/11/2010 15:02, ad wrote:

Included in your bill should be the amount of labour charge,
itemising any costs/time involved in obtaining it, then VAT if you
are registered. This is what transparency is all about. Buying
cheap on the internet and then whistling 'List Price' out of your
rear-end to the customer is immoral and should be illegal too.

You seem to have fundamental lack of understanding of how a
commercial enterprise needs to work. If you simply pass good through
your business at the "price you paid", you are losing money on every
single one.

I don't see why that should be the case. Where it is customary to
charge customers on a time and materials basis, it's perfectly OK to
charge for materials "at cost" (without markup), but instead to make
sure you count the time involved in procuring said materials.

That is not how it is done. The markup also acts as a guarantee.

A good example would be say new double glazing. A fitter charges a mark up
on the units he fits. If six months later one of the units fails then he
will then come back and change the unit for free. The manufacturer supplies
the new unit at their cost but the fitter gives his time up without charging
the customer again. Now if the customer had only payed the fitter the price
he paid and a unit fails then the customer would have to pay the fitter for
his time to replace failed unit.

--
Adam

John wrote:
"ad" wrote in message
...
On Nov 14, 10:08 am, "The Medway Handyman" davidno-spam-
wrote:


The only exception to that is if its an expensive item & the
customer is VAT
registered (I'm not). In that case I ask for cash from them, get the
item &
give them the change & the VAT receipt.

And I wonder how many 'small traders' charge VAT when they aren't even
registered for it ?. After all
most single females over a certain age will believe anything - my
neighbour being a case in point,
so that's another 17.5% profit on top of the already overinflated
price. I used to be a freelance programmer and was
VAT registered. No agency would pay ANY vat to me until they had seen
and confirmed my VAT status. Customers
should make the same stance to Joe Bloggs in his white van.

Small traders especially need to mark up parts. All business's do.

RUBBISH. markups should be banned by law along with the whole concept
of trade and retail prices. Why for example should Travis Perkins
charge some customers more than others just because some are
'traders'.

The price you charge the customer should be the price you paid.
Included in your bill should be the amount of labour charge, itemising
any costs/time involved in obtaining it, then VAT if you are
registered. This is what transparency is all about. Buying cheap on
the internet and then whistling 'List Price' out of your rear-end to
the customer is immoral and should be illegal too.



My one and only foray into this rather boring thread - so boring I can't
even take the **** out of TMH because for a change, he is somewhere near
right o many things that he has written!

John, it's called the *FREE* market and customers have the option to accept
or reject the contract - or even look elsewhere.

As a matter of interest, have you ever haggled for a discount off any goods
or services that you wished to buy - or even "paid by cash" to avoid paying
VAT on something? If you have, then you are a hypocrite and if you say you
haven't, then you are telling 'porkies'.

"John Rumm" wrote in message
o.uk...
On 14/11/2010 15:31, dennis@home wrote:


"ad" wrote in message
...
On Nov 14, 10:08 am, "The Medway Handyman" davidno-spam-
wrote:


The only exception to that is if its an expensive item & the customer
is VAT
registered (I'm not). In that case I ask for cash from them, get the
item &
give them the change & the VAT receipt.

And I wonder how many 'small traders' charge VAT when they aren't even
registered for it ?.

Only the ones committing fraud.
Incidentally claiming VAT back on stuff that is not passed on to a third
party is also fraud.

No its not. A VAT registered business will claim back VAT on all
purchases. It will charge VAT on all sales. It will pay HMRC the
difference. Hence the tax raised on the Value Added by the business.

Its OK I have already accepted that i was wrong.
I just wont say yes or no to geof as it is winding him up so much its funny.
He even gets wound up because I miss bits off his name which I do because he
appears to like to change mine.
It appears that the original VAT system was changed and I didn't notice but
so what? I don't run a business.

"John Rumm" wrote in message
o.uk...

A Matiz probably...

My brother in law had one of those, they are 'orrible.
I have actually said what I drive in this group before BTW.

"John Rumm" wrote in message
news
On 14/11/2010 20:47, dennis@home wrote:


"geoff" wrote in message
...
In message , "dennis@home"
writes


"geoff" wrote in message
...

Would you like to actually admit that you are wrong here?

No, but I will if you paste the link so I can check the source, I
wouldn't trust *you* to tell me the time.


There you go SFB

http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/vat/managing/...ng/reclaim.htm

now you can admit you are wrong, you stupid retard

OK.

Wow, was that actually dennis admitting he got something wrong?

Its not the first time, however geof can't read so he needs me to say yes or
no.
You will notice a lot of posts after this one where he still hasn't realised
I said I was wrong.
Later on he claims to have a physics degree which I find hard to believe
unless its from a uni in Bombay as he can't actually read.

"Unbeliever" wrote in message
...

As a matter of interest, have you ever haggled for a discount off any
goods or services that you wished to buy - or even "paid by cash" to avoid
paying VAT on something? If you have, then you are a hypocrite and if you
say you haven't, then you are telling 'porkies'.

I have haggled over prices lots of times, I have even paid cash.
I expect a receipt, if the trader doesn't put it through his books he risks
getting caught and I will not lie to protect him. If the VAT man asks for
the receipt he will get a copy.

dennis@home wrote:
"geoff" wrote in message
...
#

Be careful - you'll use all your redundancy up at once

Already have.



The only type you can be sure does work is cast iron, others either
have to say or you have to try.
Don't bother trying aluminium ones as they don't work.
Anything with a base welded on may or may not work.


Aha - been doing some emergency reading up, have you?

Why would I need to? There is nothing difficult to understand about
induction hobs.
Just because you don't understand things doesn't mean others don't.

Here are the instructions that you failed to understand for the Lidl
induction hob that you bought.

http://www.kompernass.com/pages/_pdf...094a7cfc43.pdf


Now look at page 2 of the manual. It says

.. This appliance is not intended for use by individuals (including children)
with restricted physical, physiological or intellectual abilities or
deficiences in experience and/or knowledge unless they are supervised by a
person responsible for their safety or receive from this person instruction
in how the appliance is to be used.

And from page 3

Use only cookware that is suitable for induction cookers:
.. Suitable are pots and pans with a base made of steel or cast iron. These
are recognisable either
through the markings on the pan or if a magnet clings to the base of the
pan.
.. Unsuitable are all types of cookware made of metals to which a magnet does
not cling, for
example aluminium, copper and stainless steel, as well as those made of
porcelain, glass, ceramics and plastics.

So who ****ed up then? Come on, admit it. It was you.

--
Adam

In message , John
Rumm writes
On 16/11/2010 20:50, geoff wrote:
In message , Clive
George writes
On 16/11/2010 20:11, geoff wrote:

and against a Honda Fireblade? I don't think so

How do motorbike times on the ring compare to fast car ones? Nothing
to do with dennis, just wondering how much of a car you need to beat a
fireblade.

They had a race on top gear a while back (at another track) Honda vs Honda

IIRC the bike won by a slight margin, ICBW

I thought that was the one where the car won? The bike pulled away on
the straight bits, but the car got past it on the twisty stuff.

ISTR watching Sabine in the M5 on the ring, was generally taking most
of the bike riders, but a few were coming past.

According to:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N%C3%BCrburgring_lap_times

None of the bikes have got below 7 mins.

What does denise drive ? has to be a volvo, doesn't it

A Matiz probably...

A RiTiz more likely

--
geoff

On Nov 17, 6:31*pm, John Rumm wrote:
On 14/11/2010 20:47, dennis@home wrote:


now you can admit you are wrong, you stupid retard

OK.

Wow, was that actually dennis admitting he got something wrong?

Trying to bury it among all the following twaddle, just like a
politician trying to slip something out unnoticed on a bad news day.

MBQ

In message , "dennis@home"
writes


"geoff" wrote in message
...

April fools day might suit you, would be most fitting, in fact,
however, some of us actually have a job, unlike yourself

that's why I said summer - or can't you read ?

I prefer winter, or don't you have the skill to ride in poor weather?


Due to the nature of my work , I'm busy at work until June

That's why I said summer

Stop trying to weedle out of it


--
geoff

In message , Steve Firth
writes
geoff wrote:

BUt bike riders tend to be brainless ****s who think that two wheels are
always faster than four.

**** off

those are proper cars driven by people who can take corners properly

It's one of the irritations in life that bikes will pass me on the
straights only to hold up progress on the bends. Two-wheeled *******.

They prolly say the same about you on the straights

**** inna cage, eh?


--
geoff

In message , John
Rumm writes
On 14/11/2010 15:31, dennis@home wrote:


"ad" wrote in message
...
On Nov 14, 10:08 am, "The Medway Handyman" davidno-spam-
wrote:


The only exception to that is if its an expensive item & the customer
is VAT
registered (I'm not). In that case I ask for cash from them, get the
item &
give them the change & the VAT receipt.

And I wonder how many 'small traders' charge VAT when they aren't even
registered for it ?.

Only the ones committing fraud.
Incidentally claiming VAT back on stuff that is not passed on to a third
party is also fraud.

No its not. A VAT registered business will claim back VAT on all
purchases. It will charge VAT on all sales. It will pay HMRC the
difference. Hence the tax raised on the Value Added by the business.

(where "all" obviously accounts for varying VAT rates - i.e. no VAT to
reclaim on books for example)

The whole concept of VAT is that its the end user that pays.
It is illegal for a company to buy something, use it and then claim the
VAT back.

Twaddle.

He still won't admit he was wrong

he doesn't have a clue about business

I suppose he didn't need to as a middle manager at marconis


--
geoff

In message , "dennis@home"
writes


"John Rumm" wrote in message
news:QqCdnQeNu6fxiXnRnZ2dnUVZ7oGdnZ2d@brightview. co.uk...
On 14/11/2010 15:31, dennis@home wrote:


"ad" wrote in message
...
On Nov 14, 10:08 am, "The Medway Handyman" davidno-spam-
wrote:


The only exception to that is if its an expensive item & the customer
is VAT
registered (I'm not). In that case I ask for cash from them, get the
item &
give them the change & the VAT receipt.

And I wonder how many 'small traders' charge VAT when they aren't even
registered for it ?.

Only the ones committing fraud.
Incidentally claiming VAT back on stuff that is not passed on to a third
party is also fraud.

No its not. A VAT registered business will claim back VAT on all
purchases. It will charge VAT on all sales. It will pay HMRC the
difference. Hence the tax raised on the Value Added by the business.

Its OK I have already accepted that i was wrong.
I just wont say yes or no to geof as it is winding him up so much its funny.
He even gets wound up because I miss bits off his name which I do
because he appears to like to change mine.
It appears that the original VAT system was changed

No it hasn't

and I didn't notice but so what? I don't run a business.


You couldn't




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geoff

dennis@home wrote:
"ARWadsworth" wrote in message
...
dennis@home wrote:
"ARWadsworth" wrote in message
...
geoff wrote:
In message , "dennis@home"
writes


"geoff" wrote in message
...

Denise - I have a degree in physics, I well understand how they
work

Well you appear to think the pans have to be magnetic to work.
Shame that that's wrong geof.


Where did I say that, retard?


You didn't. I'll bet you cannot guess who said that they needed to
be magnetic. It was Dennis. See this quote from the "A few
electrical questions thread"

""
I bought one [induction hob], then discovered the pans were
non-magnetic so it was useless
without new pans.
I bought a £1.99 wok from asda and that worked really well..
until I tried full power and it got so hot in a couple of seconds
the oil caught fire.

I decided I wanted gas, its just better than electric for hobs.
"
That is a quote from Denise.

Denise cannot even remember the lies he tells.


Funny that.. nowhere in there does it say they have to be magnetic
only that they don't work because they are non-magnetic.
You should realise that there are different forms of magnetism.
You should also know that induction furnaces work with non ferrous
materials too so iron isn't actually a requirement for induction
heating either.


It certainly is funny. Normal people are ****ing themselves laughing
at you.

Why, because you call me a liar and then you quote what I said to
prove it was you that got it wrong?

Is that what happened when you ****ed up over VAT fraud SFB's?


--
Dave - The Medway Handyman
www.medwayhandyman.co.uk

geoff wrote:
In message , geoff
writes
In message , "dennis@home"
writes


"Clive George" wrote in message
news On 16/11/2010 20:11, geoff wrote:

and against a Honda Fireblade? I don't think so

How do motorbike times on the ring compare to fast car ones?
Nothing to do with dennis, just wondering how much of a car you
need to beat a fireblade.

If geof is riding the bike you could do it in a transit van.

Not a hope, denise

As you know, I am used to positive driving

You're grasping at straws now, as you know you would have no chance

C'mon, then if you're up for it

If you can actually find your way to the Nurbergring and not get lost
in mittelfranken, I'll thrash the arse off you

Of course, you'll find some excuse, some reason to wheedle out
because you are a coward

well brave behind the anonymity of your computer, a **** scared
little runt in real life

and don't forget, it was you who put up the challenge

Lets set a date now, some time next summer would do fine


Strange - denise has suddenly gone quiet

Shhhsh. He is busy reading 'VAT for Dummies'


--
Dave - The Medway Handyman
www.medwayhandyman.co.uk

dennis@home wrote:
"John Rumm" wrote in message
o.uk...
On 14/11/2010 15:31, dennis@home wrote:


"ad" wrote in message
...
On Nov 14, 10:08 am, "The Medway Handyman" davidno-spam-
wrote:


The only exception to that is if its an expensive item & the
customer is VAT
registered (I'm not). In that case I ask for cash from them, get
the item &
give them the change & the VAT receipt.

And I wonder how many 'small traders' charge VAT when they aren't
even registered for it ?.

Only the ones committing fraud.
Incidentally claiming VAT back on stuff that is not passed on to a
third party is also fraud.

No its not. A VAT registered business will claim back VAT on all
purchases. It will charge VAT on all sales. It will pay HMRC the
difference. Hence the tax raised on the Value Added by the business.

Its OK I have already accepted that i was wrong.

Wahoo!

I just wont say yes or no to geof as it is winding him up so much its
funny. He even gets wound up because I miss bits off his name which I
do because he appears to like to change mine.

You don't have the ****ing brains to wind Geoff up you ******. You ****ed
up and are now claiming you did it on purpose.

It appears that the original VAT system was changed and I didn't
notice but so what? I don't run a business.

Ha ha ha ha ha ha! "the original VAT system was changed and I didn't
notice".

You prize idiot. The principls of VAT have never changed. It has never been
fraud to claim VAT back on stuff that is not passed on to a third party.


--
Dave - The Medway Handyman
www.medwayhandyman.co.uk

geoff wrote:

It's one of the irritations in life that bikes will pass me on the
straights only to hold up progress on the bends. Two-wheeled *******.

They prolly say the same about you on the straights

Who cares? They're just two-wheeled roadscum.

Thnk Once, Think Twice, THink "Oh look there's a **** on a bike".

geoff wrote:
In message , "dennis@home"
writes


"John Rumm" wrote in message
o.uk...
On 14/11/2010 15:31, dennis@home wrote:


"ad" wrote in message
...
On Nov 14, 10:08 am, "The Medway Handyman" davidno-spam-
wrote:


The only exception to that is if its an expensive item & the
customer is VAT
registered (I'm not). In that case I ask for cash from them, get
the item &
give them the change & the VAT receipt.

And I wonder how many 'small traders' charge VAT when they aren't
even registered for it ?.

Only the ones committing fraud.
Incidentally claiming VAT back on stuff that is not passed on to a
third party is also fraud.

No its not. A VAT registered business will claim back VAT on all
purchases. It will charge VAT on all sales. It will pay HMRC the
difference. Hence the tax raised on the Value Added by the business.

Its OK I have already accepted that i was wrong.
I just wont say yes or no to geof as it is winding him up so much
its funny. He even gets wound up because I miss bits off his name
which I do because he appears to like to change mine.
It appears that the original VAT system was changed

No it hasn't

and I didn't notice but so what? I don't run a business.


You couldn't

He could Geoff.

He could start a driving school.

Or become a VAT consultant

Or become a grass - oh he already is


--
Dave - The Medway Handyman
www.medwayhandyman.co.uk

Unbeliever wrote:

My one and only foray into this rather boring thread - so boring I
can't even take the **** out of TMH because for a change, he is
somewhere near right o many things that he has written!

More likely because you are a boring old fart & are never right yourself.


--
Dave - The Medway Handyman
www.medwayhandyman.co.uk

dennis@home wrote:
"geoff" wrote in message
...

Of course its avoiding it,

Not in the evasive sense that you are implying

I never implied anything, if you want to change avoided to evaded
than its you that is implying something.
I expect its because you have been trying to evade it and think
someone thinks you have making you read stuff into posts that haven't
been said.

who said that it was wrong to do so?

You were implying it

No I wasn't.
I would have said evaded if I meant evaded.


Do you have a guilty feeling?

I am VAT registered, I have been for 18 years

I've had a VAT visit, no problems, It's left to the accountant


Oh look you have accidentally snipped the bit where I asked you to
confirm that you were wrong

And I will continue to do so.
Anyone who has read what i said will know I agree with what the IR
have said.
The fact that it winds you up for me not to say what you want me to
say is a good enough reason not to.

Has anyone else noticed the similarity between Dennis & Viki Pollard?

Yerbut, nobut, I didn't mean that, it was you being stupid, anyway it wasn't
me wot said that....


--
Dave - The Medway Handyman
www.medwayhandyman.co.uk

"geoff" wrote in message
...

Stop trying to weedle out of it

You refused.
I want it in winter, I can film it and put your crashes on YouTube.

We might even be able to try out some of the technology TMH was on about
last week when they need to put fluids into you.

We could get Matty to make up some of the bits with his angle grinder, and
use an impact driver to put them in.

"John Rumm" wrote in message
...

Not in the last 20 years... As to "so what?", don't you feel any
responsibility to contribute accurate information if you are going to post
your opinion as fact on public fora?

If i were answering a question then yes I would try to be accurate, that's
why I don't answer questions when I don't know anything about it.
When its general discussion then so what? Anyone can be wrong and it would
be just as foolish to base anything critical on one unknown persons
statements as it would to rely on a stranger in the pub.

dennis@home wrote:
"John Rumm" wrote in message
...

Not in the last 20 years... As to "so what?", don't you feel any
responsibility to contribute accurate information if you are going
to post your opinion as fact on public fora?

If i were answering a question then yes I would try to be accurate,
that's why I don't answer questions when I don't know anything about
it.

So logically you are no longer able to answer any questions.

--
Adam

In message , Steve Firth
writes
geoff wrote:

BUt bike riders tend to be brainless ****s who think that two wheels are
always faster than four.

**** off

those are proper cars driven by people who can take corners properly

It's one of the irritations in life that bikes will pass me on the
straights only to hold up progress on the bends. Two-wheeled *******.

Have they been putting ergot in your olive oil again

The real problem for positive drivers is other cars like denise, ****
all to do with bikes

Why do you make a profession out of being a tosser ?


geoff

"ARWadsworth" wrote in message
...

So who ****ed up then? Come on, admit it. It was you.

It was you, I know what pans are suitable, I didn't know if the pans were
suitable and trying them is the easy option.
You appear to think that trying something is wrong, do you have kids or have
you yet to try anything new?
I think its a good bet that you wouldn't know what pans would work even if
it were written on them and you wouldn't try them because you think the
thing will explode if you do.

dennis@home wrote:
"ARWadsworth" wrote in message
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So who ****ed up then? Come on, admit it. It was you.

It was you, I know what pans are suitable, I didn't know if the pans
were suitable and trying them is the easy option.
You appear to think that trying something is wrong, do you have kids
or have you yet to try anything new?
I think its a good bet that you wouldn't know what pans would work
even if it were written on them and you wouldn't try them because you
think the thing will explode if you do.

I would have read the manual for the induction hob. I'll repeat it for you

http://www.kompernass.com/pages/_pdf...094a7cfc43.pdf


Now look at page 2 of the manual. It says

This appliance is not intended for use by individuals (including children)
with restricted physical, physiological or intellectual abilities or
deficiences in experience and/or knowledge unless they are supervised by a
person responsible for their safety or receive from this person instruction
in how the appliance is to be used.

And from page 3

Use only cookware that is suitable for induction cookers:
Suitable are pots and pans with a base made of steel or cast iron. These
are recognisable either
through the markings on the pan or if a magnet clings to the base of the
pan.
Unsuitable are all types of cookware made of metals to which a magnet does
not cling, for example aluminium, copper and stainless steel, as well as
those made of porcelain, glass, ceramics and plastics.

Page 2 says YOU should not attempt to use an induction hob.

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Adam

In message m,
"dennis@home" writes


"geoff" wrote in message
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Stop trying to weedle out of it

You refused.
I want it in winter,

OK then April 1st as you wanted



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geoff

dennis@home wrote:
"geoff" wrote in message
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Stop trying to weedle out of it

You refused.

Actually Geoff made the offer. You refused.

.. We could get Matty to make up some of the bits with his angle
grinder, and use an impact driver to put them in.

Dennis you should be in the Wizard of Oz. You could play the Tin Man, The
Scarecrow and the Lion by just being yourself.

--
Adam

geoff wrote:
In message m,
"dennis@home" writes


"geoff" wrote in message
...

Stop trying to weedle out of it

You refused.
I want it in winter,

OK then April 1st as you wanted

He will not turn up.

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Adam