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How much to change a pullswitch?
£436 with the firm shown on watchdog
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode...og_11_11_2010/ About 12 minutes in but various other bits with the firm throughout the programme that are worth watching. So if anyone wants a pullswitch fitting give me a call and I'll fit it for £400 anywhere in the country:-) -- Adam |
How much to change a pullswitch?
ARWadsworth wrote:
£436 with the firm shown on watchdog http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode...og_11_11_2010/ About 12 minutes in but various other bits with the firm throughout the programme that are worth watching. So if anyone wants a pullswitch fitting give me a call and I'll fit it for £400 anywhere in the country:-) Only £350 from me! Excellent rates on wireless doorchimes as well! -- Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk |
How much to change a pullswitch?
ARWadsworth wrote:
£436 with the firm shown on watchdog http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode...og_11_11_2010/ About 12 minutes in but various other bits with the firm throughout the programme that are worth watching. So if anyone wants a pullswitch fitting give me a call and I'll fit it for £400 anywhere in the country:-) Adam, an even better one. Did you see the item at the end of the program where a mother wanted to insure her seventeen year old daughter to drive a Ford Fiesta? The quotation for that was a mere £94,475 ...... bloody hell, this is one of the very, very few times I'm glad I'm not seventeen!! Cash |
How much to change a pullswitch?
The Medway Handyman wrote:
ARWadsworth wrote: £436 with the firm shown on watchdog http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode...og_11_11_2010/ About 12 minutes in but various other bits with the firm throughout the programme that are worth watching. So if anyone wants a pullswitch fitting give me a call and I'll fit it for £400 anywhere in the country:-) Only £350 from me! Excellent rates on wireless doorchimes as well! If Tony Sayer can find a spot for a pullswitch up top of Belmont or Emley Moor I'll chip in a tenner towards your fee, or £20 if I can reach the cord from the ground :) -- Robin PM may be sent to rbw0{at}hotmail{dot}com |
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Robin wrote:
The Medway Handyman wrote: ARWadsworth wrote: £436 with the firm shown on watchdog http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode...og_11_11_2010/ About 12 minutes in but various other bits with the firm throughout the programme that are worth watching. So if anyone wants a pullswitch fitting give me a call and I'll fit it for £400 anywhere in the country:-) Only £350 from me! Excellent rates on wireless doorchimes as well! If Tony Sayer can find a spot for a pullswitch up top of Belmont or Emley Moor I'll chip in a tenner towards your fee, or £20 if I can reach the cord from the ground :) Top of Emley Moor. I once had and an old school friend who worked there. -- Adam |
How much to change a pullswitch?
On Sat, 13 Nov 2010 17:01:16 -0000, "The Medway Handyman"
wrote: ARWadsworth wrote: £436 with the firm shown on watchdog http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode...og_11_11_2010/ About 12 minutes in but various other bits with the firm throughout the programme that are worth watching. So if anyone wants a pullswitch fitting give me a call and I'll fit it for £400 anywhere in the country:-) Only £350 from me! Excellent rates on wireless doorchimes as well! Suppose that will be the stick on ones. £700 for the screw on ones? :) |
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On Sat, 13 Nov 2010 14:59:13 -0000, ARWadsworth wrote:
So if anyone wants a pullswitch fitting give me a call and I'll fit it for £400 anywhere in the country:-) OK - a serious question ... I'm a pensioner. I call you out to do exactly that job. You fix it in 10 minutes. What would you charge me ? -- Regards, Hugh Jampton |
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Hugh Jampton wrote:
On Sat, 13 Nov 2010 14:59:13 -0000, ARWadsworth wrote: So if anyone wants a pullswitch fitting give me a call and I'll fit it for £400 anywhere in the country:-) OK - a serious question ... I'm a pensioner. I call you out to do exactly that job. You fix it in 10 minutes. What would you charge me ? £30 if you are local. -- Adam |
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Hugh Jampton wrote:
On Sat, 13 Nov 2010 14:59:13 -0000, ARWadsworth wrote: So if anyone wants a pullswitch fitting give me a call and I'll fit it for £400 anywhere in the country:-) OK - a serious question ... I'm a pensioner. I call you out to do exactly that job. You fix it in 10 minutes. What would you charge me ? I'd charge £30 because thats my minimum job fee - covers 30 mins work, but no fixed appointment other than 'Tuesday PM' or similar. That you are a pensioner wouldn't make a difference. Mortgages, fuel, fags, beer, food etc are (in general) no cheaper for pensioners, why should I be? I can't go into Tesco & ask for a discount because I've been working for pensioners. Sorry if that sounds harsh.. -- Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk |
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ARWadsworth wrote:
So if anyone wants a pullswitch fitting give me a call and I'll fit it for £400 anywhere in the country:-) I hope you took careful note of the explanation offered by a plumbing firm to the new plumber on the block. On the lines of: If you've got the part in the van tell the customer you have to get it from a supplier. Take an hour to go and get it, charge the customer for the time. When you get the part go to a nearby supplier and get the cheapest part, get a receipt but tell the customer that you only deal trade account and can't show them a receipt. When you charge the customer mark the part up according to how wealthy they look, about 40%[1]. [1] Actually based on usual markups this seemed a bit low, most tradesmen mark up by 50%[2] (i.e. charge the customer twice what they paid for the part.) [2] This is under the "daylight robbery" technique for marking up prices where the percentage is caculated as markup/(markup+price paid) if it were done properly (markup/price paid) it would be 100%. |
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Main Dealer markup on parts is 100%, Cars are usually 10-15% over
invoice, and aftermarket stuff is simply fantastic markup (alloy wheels are about 230-450% markup which is amusing for what is just a bulk-buy, warehouse, shift, commodity-almost part). |
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In message , Robin
writes The Medway Handyman wrote: ARWadsworth wrote: £436 with the firm shown on watchdog http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode...og_11_11_2010/ About 12 minutes in but various other bits with the firm throughout the programme that are worth watching. So if anyone wants a pullswitch fitting give me a call and I'll fit it for £400 anywhere in the country:-) Only £350 from me! Excellent rates on wireless doorchimes as well! If Tony Sayer can find a spot for a pullswitch up top of Belmont or Emley Moor I'll chip in a tenner towards your fee, or £20 if I can reach the cord from the ground :) I was thinking more ... Rockall -- geoff |
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In message , Cash
?.?.?.?.?.?.?.?.?.?.?.?.?.?@?.?.?.?.?.?.?.?.?.?.? .?.?.?.?.//.com.invalid writes ARWadsworth wrote: £436 with the firm shown on watchdog http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode...og_11_11_2010/ About 12 minutes in but various other bits with the firm throughout the programme that are worth watching. So if anyone wants a pullswitch fitting give me a call and I'll fit it for £400 anywhere in the country:-) Adam, an even better one. Did you see the item at the end of the program where a mother wanted to insure her seventeen year old daughter to drive a Ford Fiesta? The quotation for that was a mere £94,475 ...... bloody hell, this is one of the very, very few times I'm glad I'm not seventeen!! Who runs the insurance companies these days? Out-of-work bankers? While undoubtedly there are some dodgy young drivers, I can't believe that their insurance risk is anywhere as bad as the insurance companies have suddenly found them to be. And because of the extortionate charges of essentially unaffordable rates, I would have thought that many young drivers are now being tempted to risk driving without insurance. Is this what society really wants? -- Ian |
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Steve Firth wrote:
ARWadsworth wrote: So if anyone wants a pullswitch fitting give me a call and I'll fit it for £400 anywhere in the country:-) I hope you took careful note of the explanation offered by a plumbing firm to the new plumber on the block. I wonder how much they would charge to take the ****? Or is that no longer in their job description? -- Adam |
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On 13/11/2010 22:47, Ian Jackson wrote:
In message , Cash ?.?.?.?.?.?.?.?.?.?.?.?.?.?@?.?.?.?.?.?.?.?.?.?.? .?.?.?.?.//.com.invalid writes ARWadsworth wrote: £436 with the firm shown on watchdog http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode...og_11_11_2010/ About 12 minutes in but various other bits with the firm throughout the programme that are worth watching. So if anyone wants a pullswitch fitting give me a call and I'll fit it for £400 anywhere in the country:-) Adam, an even better one. Did you see the item at the end of the program where a mother wanted to insure her seventeen year old daughter to drive a Ford Fiesta? The quotation for that was a mere £94,475 ...... bloody hell, this is one of the very, very few times I'm glad I'm not seventeen!! Who runs the insurance companies these days? Out-of-work bankers? While undoubtedly there are some dodgy young drivers, I can't believe that their insurance risk is anywhere as bad as the insurance companies have suddenly found them to be. And because of the extortionate charges of essentially unaffordable rates, I would have thought that many young drivers are now being tempted to risk driving without insurance. Is this what society really wants? You know when you get that question, "Has an insurance company ever refused to cover you?". Offering cover at an insane price means they can tell you to go elsewhere without having to give you that problem in the future. |
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I believe younger drivers can get "reasonable" insurance rates if they
have a black box fitted which records G, time, perhaps even GPS data. Basically if someone IS using the car for work, then it makes things viable. |
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On Nov 13, 2:59*pm, "ARWadsworth"
wrote: 436 with the firm shown on watchdog http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode...og_11_11_2010/ About 12 minutes in but various other bits with the firm throughout the programme that are worth watching. So if anyone wants a pullswitch fitting give me a call and I'll fit it for 400 anywhere in the country:-) -- Adam I found it hard to understand why her kitchen fitter (grand?)son hadn't done it for her, or got the sparks he doubtless works with to do it. But if it was the kind of pullswitch where the cord goes through a bead dangling just below the head, there's no electrickery involved anyway. Chris |
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Steve Firth wrote:
ARWadsworth wrote: So if anyone wants a pullswitch fitting give me a call and I'll fit it for £400 anywhere in the country:-) I hope you took careful note of the explanation offered by a plumbing firm to the new plumber on the block. On the lines of: If you've got the part in the van tell the customer you have to get it from a supplier. Take an hour to go and get it, charge the customer for the time. Thats plain dishonest. If I have the part on the van I supply it & mark it up. If I have to go & get it there are 2 scenarios. If its a part a handyman could be expected to carry, I don't charge for the time getting it, but I will still mark it up. If its a part I couldn't be expected to carry, I charge for the time & mark it up. For example, I don't carry multiquik WC connectors as there are about 6 variations. If I were a plumber I would carry one of each. When you get the part go to a nearby supplier and get the cheapest part, get a receipt but tell the customer that you only deal trade account and can't show them a receipt. Why should you show the customer the receipt? Would a garage show you the receipt for the parts they fitted during a service? Would Tesco show you their receipt for the loaf of bread you bought? I itemise parts & labour on the bill, but the receipt is mine. The only exception to that is if its an expensive item & the customer is VAT registered (I'm not). In that case I ask for cash from them, get the item & give them the change & the VAT receipt. When you charge the customer mark the part up according to how wealthy they look, about 40%[1]. [1] Actually based on usual markups this seemed a bit low, most tradesmen mark up by 50%[2] (i.e. charge the customer twice what they paid for the part.) [2] This is under the "daylight robbery" technique for marking up prices where the percentage is caculated as markup/(markup+price paid) if it were done properly (markup/price paid) it would be 100%. Small traders especially need to mark up parts. All business's do. My general policy is to buy online & sell at Homebase price - 10%. That gives me a very good margin because the Homebase et al mark up is far higher than any small trader - 400 - 800% in some cases. For example - 300mm flexible tap connector (compression) - I can buy for £1, Homebase sell them at £8.99 - and they must pay much less than £1. -- Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk |
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On Nov 14, 10:08*am, "The Medway Handyman" davidno-spam-
wrote: The only exception to that is if its an expensive item & the customer is VAT registered (I'm not). *In that case I ask for cash from them, get the item & give them the change & the VAT receipt. And I wonder how many 'small traders' charge VAT when they aren't even registered for it ?. After all most single females over a certain age will believe anything - my neighbour being a case in point, so that's another 17.5% profit on top of the already overinflated price. I used to be a freelance programmer and was VAT registered. No agency would pay ANY vat to me until they had seen and confirmed my VAT status. Customers should make the same stance to Joe Bloggs in his white van. Small traders especially need to mark up parts. *All business's do. RUBBISH. markups should be banned by law along with the whole concept of trade and retail prices. Why for example should Travis Perkins charge some customers more than others just because some are 'traders'. The price you charge the customer should be the price you paid. Included in your bill should be the amount of labour charge, itemising any costs/time involved in obtaining it, then VAT if you are registered. This is what transparency is all about. Buying cheap on the internet and then whistling 'List Price' out of your rear-end to the customer is immoral and should be illegal too. -- Dave - The Medway Handymanwww.medwayhandyman.co.uk |
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"ad" wrote in message ... On Nov 14, 10:08 am, "The Medway Handyman" davidno-spam- wrote: The only exception to that is if its an expensive item & the customer is VAT registered (I'm not). In that case I ask for cash from them, get the item & give them the change & the VAT receipt. And I wonder how many 'small traders' charge VAT when they aren't even registered for it ?. Only the ones committing fraud. Incidentally claiming VAT back on stuff that is not passed on to a third party is also fraud. The whole concept of VAT is that its the end user that pays. It is illegal for a company to buy something, use it and then claim the VAT back. That means the VAT has not been paid and a fraud has taken place. |
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"ad" wrote in message
... On Nov 14, 10:08 am, "The Medway Handyman" davidno-spam- wrote: The only exception to that is if its an expensive item & the customer is VAT registered (I'm not). In that case I ask for cash from them, get the item & give them the change & the VAT receipt. And I wonder how many 'small traders' charge VAT when they aren't even registered for it ?. After all most single females over a certain age will believe anything - my neighbour being a case in point, so that's another 17.5% profit on top of the already overinflated price. I used to be a freelance programmer and was VAT registered. No agency would pay ANY vat to me until they had seen and confirmed my VAT status. Customers should make the same stance to Joe Bloggs in his white van. Small traders especially need to mark up parts. All business's do. RUBBISH. markups should be banned by law along with the whole concept of trade and retail prices. Why for example should Travis Perkins charge some customers more than others just because some are 'traders'. The price you charge the customer should be the price you paid. Included in your bill should be the amount of labour charge, itemising any costs/time involved in obtaining it, then VAT if you are registered. This is what transparency is all about. Buying cheap on the internet and then whistling 'List Price' out of your rear-end to the customer is immoral and should be illegal too. -- Dave - The Medway Handymanwww.medwayhandyman.co.uk The principal was that a trader would buy lots of items and only have one invoice - a retail customer would buy less at each transaction. A transaction has an admin / labour element. |
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ad wrote:
On Nov 14, 10:08 am, "The Medway Handyman" davidno-spam- wrote: SNIP Small traders especially need to mark up parts. All business's do. RUBBISH. markups should be banned by law along with the whole concept of trade and retail prices. Why for example should Travis Perkins charge some customers more than others just because some are 'traders'. What colour is the sky on your planet? The policy of places like Howdens, Travis Perkins, Magnet etc is entirely lawful and makes good business sense. Their target market is the trade, they don't want Joe Public clogging up the place. Traders buy much more than Joe Public does, which is why they get better prices. The reverse of the situation also applies. I spent £6K with Wickes last year - why should I have to pay the same as someone who spent £20? The price you charge the customer should be the price you paid. Only if you are an idiot who wants to go skint. Do you seriously think that your garage charge you cost price for brake pads & oil? Does the bloke who repairs your washing machine/boiler/TV charge cost price for the parts? Of course not you fool. If they did, labour rates would have to be higher to maintain revenue and you would moan about that. Included in your bill should be the amount of labour charge, itemising any costs/time involved in obtaining it, then VAT if you are registered. This is what transparency is all about. Buying cheap on the internet and then whistling 'List Price' out of your rear-end to the customer is immoral and should be illegal too. If the customer has the knowledge & experience to know exactly what is required, and knows the best place to buy it at the right quality & price thats fine with me. But they don't. That knowledge & experience has a price. Never been self employed have you? Don't. You will go broke in a matter of months. -- Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk |
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dennis@home wrote:
"ad" wrote in message ... On Nov 14, 10:08 am, "The Medway Handyman" davidno-spam- wrote: The only exception to that is if its an expensive item & the customer is VAT registered (I'm not). In that case I ask for cash from them, get the item & give them the change & the VAT receipt. And I wonder how many 'small traders' charge VAT when they aren't even registered for it ?. Only the ones committing fraud. Incidentally claiming VAT back on stuff that is not passed on to a third party is also fraud. The whole concept of VAT is that its the end user that pays. It is illegal for a company to buy something, use it and then claim the VAT back. That means the VAT has not been paid and a fraud has taken place. Dennis, we all know you are an idiot, but you have excelled yourself this time. A VAT registered trader offsets all of his input VAT against his output VAT & gives the difference to HMRC. VAT on fuel, tools, heating, lighting, PPE whatever is all input VAT and isn't passed on to anyone. -- Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk |
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"Clive George" wrote in message o.uk... On 13/11/2010 22:47, Ian Jackson wrote: In message , Cash ?.?.?.?.?.?.?.?.?.?.?.?.?.?@?.?.?.?.?.?.?.?.?.?.? .?.?.?.?.//.com.invalid writes ARWadsworth wrote: £436 with the firm shown on watchdog http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode...og_11_11_2010/ About 12 minutes in but various other bits with the firm throughout the programme that are worth watching. So if anyone wants a pullswitch fitting give me a call and I'll fit it for £400 anywhere in the country:-) Adam, an even better one. Did you see the item at the end of the program where a mother wanted to insure her seventeen year old daughter to drive a Ford Fiesta? The quotation for that was a mere £94,475 ...... bloody hell, this is one of the very, very few times I'm glad I'm not seventeen!! Who runs the insurance companies these days? Out-of-work bankers? While undoubtedly there are some dodgy young drivers, I can't believe that their insurance risk is anywhere as bad as the insurance companies have suddenly found them to be. And because of the extortionate charges of essentially unaffordable rates, I would have thought that many young drivers are now being tempted to risk driving without insurance. Is this what society really wants? You know when you get that question, "Has an insurance company ever refused to cover you?". Offering cover at an insane price means they can tell you to go elsewhere without having to give you that problem in the future. They don't have to be so clever to avoid this, they can "decline to quote" which is not the same thing as a refusal. I live in a listed property and even though I only need contents insurance it is surprising how many companies refuse to quote because of this alone (somewhere near 80% of online providers) tim |
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In message , "dennis@home"
writes "ad" wrote in message ... On Nov 14, 10:08 am, "The Medway Handyman" davidno-spam- wrote: The only exception to that is if its an expensive item & the customer is VAT registered (I'm not). In that case I ask for cash from them, get the item & give them the change & the VAT receipt. And I wonder how many 'small traders' charge VAT when they aren't even registered for it ?. Only the ones committing fraud. Incidentally claiming VAT back on stuff that is not passed on to a third party is also fraud. Rubbish To quote from the HMRC site (I think that they have more of a clue about it than you do, although you might like to try and tell them that they are wrong if you like) "Generally, you can reclaim VAT that you pay when you buy goods or services for your business. This VAT is called input tax by HMRC" So, for example, if a window gets broken, if VAT is charged on the repair, this can be offset against VAT payable, likewise, the VAT on a company vehicle, or, in fact, any legitimate expense incurred in running the business. My heating, lighting, fuel, and other expenses which are nothing to do directly with what I produce are all offsettable against the VAT I charge on them You really are a stupid, clueless 'kin retard Would you like to actually admit that you are wrong here? The whole concept of VAT is that its the end user that pays. It is illegal for a company to buy something, use it and then claim the VAT back. That means the VAT has not been paid and a fraud has taken place. -- geoff |
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In message
, ad writes On Nov 14, 10:08*am, "The Medway Handyman" davidno-spam- wrote: The only exception to that is if its an expensive item & the customer is VAT registered (I'm not). *In that case I ask for cash from them, get the item & give them the change & the VAT receipt. And I wonder how many 'small traders' charge VAT when they aren't even registered for it ?. After all most single females over a certain age will believe anything - my neighbour being a case in point, so that's another 17.5% profit on top of the already overinflated price. I used to be a freelance programmer and was VAT registered. No agency would pay ANY vat to me until they had seen and confirmed my VAT status. Customers should make the same stance to Joe Bloggs in his white van. Small traders especially need to mark up parts. *All business's do. RUBBISH. markups should be banned by law along with the whole concept of trade and retail prices. Why for example should Travis Perkins charge some customers more than others just because some are 'traders'. The price you charge the customer should be the price you paid. Included in your bill should be the amount of labour charge, itemising any costs/time involved in obtaining it, then VAT if you are registered. This is what transparency is all about. Buying cheap on the internet and then whistling 'List Price' out of your rear-end to the customer is immoral and should be illegal too. Why? I have a product to sell, you want to buy, we agree a price, or I quote a price and you accept it or not It has nothing to do with what I paid for it If I buy 1000 relays for a price, do you expect to buy from me at the unit price I bought them for ? -- geoff |
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On Nov 14, 5:02*pm, "The Medway Handyman" davidno-spam-
wrote: dennis@home wrote: "ad" wrote in message .... On Nov 14, 10:08 am, "The Medway Handyman" davidno-spam- wrote: The only exception to that is if its an expensive item & the customer is VAT registered (I'm not). *In that case I ask for cash from them, get the item & give them the change & the VAT receipt. And I wonder how many 'small traders' charge VAT when they aren't even registered for it ?. Only the ones committing fraud. Incidentally claiming VAT back on stuff that is not passed on to a third party is also fraud. The whole concept of VAT is that its the end user that pays. It is illegal for a company to buy something, use it and then claim the VAT back. That means the VAT has not been paid and a fraud has taken place. Dennis, we all know you are an idiot, but you have excelled yourself this time. A VAT registered trader offsets all of his input VAT against his output VAT & gives the difference to HMRC. *VAT on fuel, tools, heating, lighting, PPE whatever is all input VAT and isn't passed on to anyone. -- Dave - The Medway Handymanwww.medwayhandyman.co.uk- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - What I want is complete tranparency. I want to know exactly what a job costs. If that means labour rates should go up - fair enough, I don't think this is unreasonable. What is unreasonable is to told that the 'list price' is £799 when the trader only pays £399. A registered business can buy goods, claim back the VAT and not sell them again - this is perfectly legitimate. If you buy a new computer for your business you can claim back the VAT. What I am concerned about is the people who just love to lie and bull**** to elderly people (who tend to be more trusting) and resort to any trick going to overcharge them. My elderly female neighbour was quoted an average of £2500 to have her porch and its outer door replaced with Upvc. The first quote I got for my identical semi-detached half of the porch was £984. Why the difference ?. The bloke she ultimately selected spent at least half an hour bull****ting her with remarks like 'We' will have to check out costs and price it up. (for 'we' read one bloke, white van and a mate who he pays cash to) . 'It might have to be 18 mil plywood' (its a flat roof originally constructed with one inch chipboard in 1976, for christs sake how much does a piece of 18 mil plywood 1200 by 900 cost ?- even I know that a full sheet is about £35 in wickes. then he spent the rest of the time going on about his family - 'emily is going to college blah blah blah' - classic rogue trader behaviour. He finally did the job, used an angle grinder to cut the original chipboard, didn't bother to replace a 3 by 2 noggin that was growing mushrooms - just nailed the 11 mil OSB (whippy as hell) into it. And the new outer door hinged the wrong way !. The original was hinged on the left but the replacement required my neighbour to get right into her 4 foot by 3 foot 6 porch with her sholley and then struggle to close the outer porch door before she could open the house front door. A few weeks later he was back and changed it for a correctly handed door - hopefully she refused to pay for the first attempt. The replacement door has now sagged which makes it very difficult to open or close. So he hasn't bothered to put the setting blocks in place - and I don't think that is down to incompetence, he has done it deliberately. Hopefully he is now stuck with the door and frame he initially fitted. Oh, and AFAIK Wickes does not descriminate between someone spending £6K a year and someone spending £20, so why use them as an example. Joe Public pays cash on the nail - something that even Travis Perkins should appreciate. Who would you prefer, someone who pays immediately, or someone who 'promises' to pay in 30 days and then goes 'bust' without paying anything ?. |
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"The Medway Handyman" wrote in message ... Dennis, we all know you are an idiot, but you have excelled yourself this time. A VAT registered trader offsets all of his input VAT against his output VAT & gives the difference to HMRC. VAT on fuel, tools, heating, lighting, PPE whatever is all input VAT and isn't passed on to anyone. You are the idiot as usual for not reading what I said but making up your own story in your tiny mind. Try understanding what is said rather than thinking anyone actually cares what *you* think. |
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In message , "dennis@home"
writes "The Medway Handyman" wrote in message ... Dennis, we all know you are an idiot, but you have excelled yourself this time. A VAT registered trader offsets all of his input VAT against his output VAT & gives the difference to HMRC. VAT on fuel, tools, heating, lighting, PPE whatever is all input VAT and isn't passed on to anyone. You are the idiot as usual for not reading what I said but making up your own story in your tiny mind. Try understanding what is said rather than thinking anyone actually cares what *you* think. Denise, you said "Incidentally claiming VAT back on stuff that is not passed on to a third party is also fraud." Which is just ****ing wrong full stop retard -- geoff |
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"geoff" wrote in message ... Would you like to actually admit that you are wrong here? No, but I will if you paste the link so I can check the source, I wouldn't trust *you* to tell me the time. |
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In message , "dennis@home"
writes "geoff" wrote in message ... Would you like to actually admit that you are wrong here? No, but I will if you paste the link so I can check the source, I wouldn't trust *you* to tell me the time. There you go SFB http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/vat/managing/...ng/reclaim.htm now you can admit you are wrong, you stupid retard -- geoff |
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"geoff" wrote in message ... In message , "dennis@home" writes "geoff" wrote in message ... Would you like to actually admit that you are wrong here? No, but I will if you paste the link so I can check the source, I wouldn't trust *you* to tell me the time. There you go SFB http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/vat/managing/...ng/reclaim.htm now you can admit you are wrong, you stupid retard OK. However it does raise an interesting point.. someone who is not VAT registered like TMH would pay VAT if he supplies the goods.. Someone who gets TMH to buy the goods and then claims back the goods is assisting TMH in avoiding registering for VAT.. however he does this at a cost.. he loses all rights as a consumer if the goods are bad. If he buys it from TMH then TMH would be responsible for it working, if not TMH isn't responsible unless he botches the install.. If he refused to "buy" the goods and TMH did, the customer would still be able to reclaim the VAT and have TMH responsible for it being OK. I would do the later so TMH would have to fulfil his contract and TMH would have to seek recompense from the supplier if there was a problem, not the customer. |
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On Sun, 14 Nov 2010 15:31:34 -0000 Dennis@home wrote :
Incidentally claiming VAT back on stuff that is not passed on to a third party is also fraud. Rubbish. When I was in the UK, my company claimed back all the VAT paid out for things like printer consumables, software, web hosting etc. -- Tony Bryer, Greentram: 'Software to build on' Melbourne, Australia www.superbeam.co.uk www.eurobeam.co.uk www.greentram.com |
How much to change a pullswitch?
In message , "dennis@home"
writes "geoff" wrote in message ... In message , "dennis@home" writes "geoff" wrote in message ... Would you like to actually admit that you are wrong here? No, but I will if you paste the link so I can check the source, I wouldn't trust *you* to tell me the time. There you go SFB http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/vat/managing/...ng/reclaim.htm now you can admit you are wrong, you stupid retard OK. Was that "OK, yes, I was wrong "? However it does raise an interesting point.. someone who is not VAT registered like TMH would pay VAT if he supplies the goods.. Someone who gets TMH to buy the goods and then claims back the goods is assisting TMH in avoiding registering for VAT.. however he does this at a cost.. he loses all rights as a consumer if the goods are bad. It is no different from someone buying a boiler and asking an installer to fit it for him If the goods are faulty, he still has his rights as a consumer If you had a clue about business, an example like this cannot be construed as avoiding VAt registration, unless there is PROOF of collusion to evade registration (e.g. A letter stating words to that effect If he buys it from TMH then TMH would be responsible for it working, if not TMH isn't responsible unless he botches the install.. If he refused to "buy" the goods and TMH did, the customer would still be able to reclaim the VAT and have TMH responsible for it being OK. I would do the later so TMH would have to fulfil his contract and TMH would have to seek recompense from the supplier if there was a problem, not the customer. Its up to the customer how he wants to use TMH's services, not something which the VAT man would be interested in So, the answer is OK, yes, you were wrong regarding claiming VAT on expenditure, then A simple yes or no would suffice -- geoff |
How much to change a pullswitch?
In message , Tony Bryer
writes On Sun, 14 Nov 2010 15:31:34 -0000 Dennis@home wrote : Incidentally claiming VAT back on stuff that is not passed on to a third party is also fraud. Rubbish. When I was in the UK, my company claimed back all the VAT paid out for things like printer consumables, software, web hosting etc. Of course its rubbish Getting denise to admit that he is wrong is the hard part -- geoff |
How much to change a pullswitch?
"geoff" wrote in message ... In message , "dennis@home" writes "geoff" wrote in message ... In message , "dennis@home" writes "geoff" wrote in message ... Would you like to actually admit that you are wrong here? No, but I will if you paste the link so I can check the source, I wouldn't trust *you* to tell me the time. There you go SFB http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/vat/managing/...ng/reclaim.htm now you can admit you are wrong, you stupid retard OK. Was that "OK, yes, I was wrong "? However it does raise an interesting point.. someone who is not VAT registered like TMH would pay VAT if he supplies the goods.. Someone who gets TMH to buy the goods and then claims back the goods is assisting TMH in avoiding registering for VAT.. however he does this at a cost.. he loses all rights as a consumer if the goods are bad. It is no different from someone buying a boiler and asking an installer to fit it for him If the goods are faulty, he still has his rights as a consumer Of course its different. He has to get someone to fix it and then claim back the costs from the supplier rather than telling TMH to fix it. If TMH didn't supply it then TMH could just say no as he had fulfilled his obligation and then the customer has to find someone else. If you had a clue about business, an example like this cannot be construed as avoiding VAt registration, unless there is PROOF of collusion to evade registration (e.g. A letter stating words to that effect Of course its avoiding it, who said that it was wrong to do so? Do you have a guilty feeling? |
How much to change a pullswitch?
"geoff" wrote in message ... In message , Tony Bryer writes On Sun, 14 Nov 2010 15:31:34 -0000 Dennis@home wrote : Incidentally claiming VAT back on stuff that is not passed on to a third party is also fraud. Rubbish. When I was in the UK, my company claimed back all the VAT paid out for things like printer consumables, software, web hosting etc. Of course its rubbish Getting denise to admit that he is wrong is the hard part Getting geof to understand plain English is the hard part. |
How much to change a pullswitch?
dennis@home wrote:
"geoff" wrote in message ... Would you like to actually admit that you are wrong here? No, but I will if you paste the link so I can check the source, I wouldn't trust *you* to tell me the time. Wriggling again you slipperly ****? You are 100% totally wrong and have posted complete ****e yet again. -- Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk |
How much to change a pullswitch?
In message , "dennis@home"
writes "geoff" wrote in message ... In message , "dennis@home" writes "geoff" wrote in message ... In message , "dennis@home" writes "geoff" wrote in message ... Would you like to actually admit that you are wrong here? No, but I will if you paste the link so I can check the source, I wouldn't trust *you* to tell me the time. There you go SFB http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/vat/managing/...ng/reclaim.htm now you can admit you are wrong, you stupid retard OK. Was that "OK, yes, I was wrong "? However it does raise an interesting point.. someone who is not VAT registered like TMH would pay VAT if he supplies the goods.. Someone who gets TMH to buy the goods and then claims back the goods is assisting TMH in avoiding registering for VAT.. however he does this at a cost.. he loses all rights as a consumer if the goods are bad. It is no different from someone buying a boiler and asking an installer to fit it for him If the goods are faulty, he still has his rights as a consumer Of course its different. He has to get someone to fix it and then claim back the costs from the supplier rather than telling TMH to fix it. If TMH didn't supply it then TMH could just say no as he had fulfilled his obligation and then the customer has to find someone else. If you had a clue about business, an example like this cannot be construed as avoiding VAt registration, unless there is PROOF of collusion to evade registration (e.g. A letter stating words to that effect Of course its avoiding it, Not in the evasive sense that you are implying who said that it was wrong to do so? You were implying it Do you have a guilty feeling? I am VAT registered, I have been for 18 years I've had a VAT visit, no problems, It's left to the accountant Oh look you have accidentally snipped the bit where I asked you to confirm that you were wrong Could you please confirm that you were wrong on the subject of what you can claim against VAT not directly attributable to what you are selling ? A simple "yes, I was wrong" would suffice -- geoff |
How much to change a pullswitch?
dennis@home wrote:
"geoff" wrote in message ... In message , "dennis@home" writes "geoff" wrote in message ... Would you like to actually admit that you are wrong here? No, but I will if you paste the link so I can check the source, I wouldn't trust *you* to tell me the time. There you go SFB http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/vat/managing/...ng/reclaim.htm now you can admit you are wrong, you stupid retard OK. So you admit to being 100% wrong? However it does raise an interesting point.. someone who is not VAT registered like TMH would pay VAT if he supplies the goods.. Correct. Someone who gets TMH to buy the goods and then claims back the goods is assisting TMH in avoiding registering for VAT.. Someone buying goods from me cannot possibly claim the VAT **** for brains, because I'm not registered and don't have a VAT number. Unless I use their cash to buy the goods in their name & give then=m the VAT reciept - which is no different from them buying the goods themselves. however he does this at a cost.. he loses all rights as a consumer if the goods are bad. No he doesn't you ****ing idiot. If he buys it from TMH then TMH would be responsible for it working, if not TMH isn't responsible unless he botches the install.. For once you are right. If he refused to "buy" the goods and TMH did, the customer would still be able to reclaim the VAT and have TMH responsible for it being OK. No he wouldn't you idiot. You have no idea how VAT works. I'm not registered, so I don't charge VAT seperately. The client cannot claim any input VAT from my invoice. I would do the later so TMH would have to fulfil his contract and TMH would have to seek recompense from the supplier if there was a problem, not the customer. If you did the latter **** for brains, you couldn't use the VAT element as input. My charges would therefore be for fitting the customers item. It would be their responsibility for sorting out any problem with the supplier they bought the goods from. So, once again, despite wrigging like the worm you are, you have made a complete & utter prat of yourself again. I await your appology. -- Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk |
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