NapalmHeart wrote:

Actually, it wasn't an AK-47, as that is a selective-fire weapon. It
was a semi-auto only variant called an AKM.

I'm sure that's very reassuring to the families of the victims.

You wouldn't want them killed with an *illegally* owned weapon would you ?

Graham

In message , Arnold Walker
writes
... your country is run by a monkey who believes in the literal Armageddon
And the monkey in Pakistan don't .......

You have a problem with plurals,don't you ...

who's talking about Pakistan, I'm on about your monkey



of course, I'm intolerant of religion
No socialist is ....it is agianst their religion to do other wise.

OK, you just have problems with grammar in general

Who said anything about being a socialist ?


--
geoff

We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember geoff saying
something like:

The socialist are in an embarrassing situation right now .....how do you
deal with success.
When you are clearingly showing a will to unmine and root for defeat?
But then socialists have a legend to uphold as well....support for the
failing system of ideas ever.

What the **** are you blathering on about now ?

It's the meds, Geoff. Or maybe the lack of them.
--

Dave

"geoff" wrote in message
...
In message , Arnold Walker
writes
... your country is run by a monkey who believes in the literal
Armageddon
And the monkey in Pakistan don't .......

You have a problem with plurals,don't you ...

who's talking about Pakistan, I'm on about your monkey



of course, I'm intolerant of religion
No socialist is ....it is agianst their religion to do other wise.

OK, you just have problems with grammar in general

Who said anything about being a socialist ?
You did with the destribution of the thier failed ideas.
Of course you aren't a socialist...just someone who in believes
in thier ideas.

In message , Arnold Walker
writes

"geoff" wrote in message
...
In message , Arnold Walker
writes
... your country is run by a monkey who believes in the literal
Armageddon
And the monkey in Pakistan don't .......

You have a problem with plurals,don't you ...

who's talking about Pakistan, I'm on about your monkey



of course, I'm intolerant of religion
No socialist is ....it is agianst their religion to do other wise.

OK, you just have problems with grammar in general

Who said anything about being a socialist ?
You did with the destribution of the thier failed ideas.
Of course you aren't a socialist...just someone who in believes
in thier ideas.

You're a ****ing loonie mate


--
geoff

"geoff" wrote in message
...
In message , Arnold Walker
writes

"geoff" wrote in message
...
In message , Arnold Walker
writes
... your country is run by a monkey who believes in the literal
Armageddon
And the monkey in Pakistan don't .......

You have a problem with plurals,don't you ...

who's talking about Pakistan, I'm on about your monkey



of course, I'm intolerant of religion
No socialist is ....it is agianst their religion to do other wise.

OK, you just have problems with grammar in general

Who said anything about being a socialist ?
You did with the destribution of the thier failed ideas.
Of course you aren't a socialist...just someone who in believes
in thier ideas.

You're a ****ing loonie mate
No ,that is reserved for socialist,dictators, and muslim fanatics.
And we do seen to have a lot of them ,now days.
And the general public appears to be getting tired of putting up with them.

On 2007-12-09 18:38:08 +0000, geoff said:

In message , Arnold Walker
writes

"geoff" wrote in message
...
In message , Arnold Walker
writes
... your country is run by a monkey who believes in the literal
Armageddon
And the monkey in Pakistan don't .......

You have a problem with plurals,don't you ...

who's talking about Pakistan, I'm on about your monkey



of course, I'm intolerant of religion
No socialist is ....it is agianst their religion to do other wise.

OK, you just have problems with grammar in general

Who said anything about being a socialist ?
You did with the destribution of the thier failed ideas.
Of course you aren't a socialist...just someone who in believes
in thier ideas.

You're a ****ing loonie mate

Do you think that he still thinks that you are politically correct, Geoff?

"geoff" wrote in message
...
In message , Arnold Walker
writes

"geoff" wrote in message
...
In message , Arnold Walker
writes
... your country is run by a monkey who believes in the literal
Armageddon
And the monkey in Pakistan don't .......

You have a problem with plurals,don't you ...

who's talking about Pakistan, I'm on about your monkey



of course, I'm intolerant of religion
No socialist is ....it is agianst their religion to do other wise.

OK, you just have problems with grammar in general

Who said anything about being a socialist ?
You did with the destribution of the thier failed ideas.
Of course you aren't a socialist...just someone who in believes
in thier ideas.

You're a ****ing loonie mate
Thanks ....that's what the American colonist were called for thinking about
freedom,liberty,and religious tolerance..

In message 475c3b2c@qaanaaq, Andy Hall writes
On 2007-12-09 18:38:08 +0000, geoff said:

In message , Arnold Walker
writes
"geoff" wrote in message
...
In message , Arnold Walker
writes
... your country is run by a monkey who believes in the literal
Armageddon
And the monkey in Pakistan don't .......
You have a problem with plurals,don't you ...
who's talking about Pakistan, I'm on about your monkey

of course, I'm intolerant of religion
No socialist is ....it is agianst their religion to do other wise.

OK, you just have problems with grammar in general
Who said anything about being a socialist ?
You did with the destribution of the thier failed ideas.
Of course you aren't a socialist...just someone who in believes
in thier ideas.

You're a ****ing loonie mate

Do you think that he still thinks that you are politically correct, Geoff?

I certainly hope that any misconception in that direction has now been
rectified

looks like the others aren't taking the bait anymore

.... that's my sunday night fun gone then


--
geoff

In message , Arnold Walker
writes
of course, I'm intolerant of religion
No socialist is ....it is agianst their religion to do other wise.

OK, you just have problems with grammar in general

Who said anything about being a socialist ?
You did with the destribution of the thier failed ideas.
Of course you aren't a socialist...just someone who in believes
in thier ideas.

You're a ****ing loonie mate
Thanks ....that's what the American colonist were called for thinking about
freedom,liberty,and religious tolerance..

You mean the johnny-come-lately pilgrim fathers and their ilk

And what's happened to those ideals now ?



--
geoff

In message , geoff
writes
In message 475c3b2c@qaanaaq, Andy Hall writes
On 2007-12-09 18:38:08 +0000, geoff said:

In message , Arnold Walker
writes
"geoff" wrote in message
...
In message , Arnold Walker
writes
... your country is run by a monkey who believes in the literal
Armageddon
And the monkey in Pakistan don't .......
You have a problem with plurals,don't you ...
who's talking about Pakistan, I'm on about your monkey

of course, I'm intolerant of religion
No socialist is ....it is agianst their religion to do other wise.

OK, you just have problems with grammar in general
Who said anything about being a socialist ?
You did with the destribution of the thier failed ideas.
Of course you aren't a socialist...just someone who in believes
in thier ideas.

You're a ****ing loonie mate

Do you think that he still thinks that you are politically correct, Geoff?

I certainly hope that any misconception in that direction has now been
rectified

looks like the others aren't taking the bait anymore

... that's my sunday night fun gone then


Spoke too soon there - another two septics killed by a gunman today

Something to do with xtians or something

Whatever happened to the "thou shalt not kill" bit of the 10
commandments ?


--
geoff

"geoff" wrote in message
...
In message , geoff
writes
In message 475c3b2c@qaanaaq, Andy Hall writes
On 2007-12-09 18:38:08 +0000, geoff said:

In message , Arnold Walker
writes
"geoff" wrote in message
...
In message , Arnold Walker
writes
... your country is run by a monkey who believes in the literal
Armageddon
And the monkey in Pakistan don't .......
You have a problem with plurals,don't you ...
who's talking about Pakistan, I'm on about your monkey

of course, I'm intolerant of religion
No socialist is ....it is agianst their religion to do other wise.

OK, you just have problems with grammar in general
Who said anything about being a socialist ?
You did with the destribution of the thier failed ideas.
Of course you aren't a socialist...just someone who in believes
in thier ideas.

You're a ****ing loonie mate

Do you think that he still thinks that you are politically correct,
Geoff?

I certainly hope that any misconception in that direction has now been
rectified

looks like the others aren't taking the bait anymore

... that's my sunday night fun gone then


Spoke too soon there - another two septics killed by a gunman today

Something to do with xtians or something

Whatever happened to the "thou shalt not kill" bit of the 10 commandments
?
I believe it was overridden by the socialist reform guys with separation of
state.


--
geoff

The message
from geoff contains these words:

Whatever happened to the "thou shalt not kill" bit of the 10
commandments ?

That's only the bowdlerised version. To give the Jews their due it is
properly translated as 'not commit murder'. OK so not much of a due
given the mass murder required to ethnic cleanse the 'promised land'
(and much else) but they would no doubt argue that anything sanctioned
by their god cannot possibly be wrong.

--
Roger Chapman

In message , Roger
writes
The message
from geoff contains these words:

Whatever happened to the "thou shalt not kill" bit of the 10
commandments ?

That's only the bowdlerised version. To give the Jews their due it is
properly translated as 'not commit murder'. OK so not much of a due
given the mass murder required to ethnic cleanse the 'promised land'
(and much else) but they would no doubt argue that anything sanctioned
by their god cannot possibly be wrong.

A bit like septics and the right to bear arms ...

--
geoff

"geoff" wrote in message
...
In message , geoff
writes
In message 475c3b2c@qaanaaq, Andy Hall writes
On 2007-12-09 18:38:08 +0000, geoff said:

In message , Arnold Walker
writes
"geoff" wrote in message
...
In message , Arnold Walker
writes
... your country is run by a monkey who believes in the literal
Armageddon
And the monkey in Pakistan don't .......
You have a problem with plurals,don't you ...
who's talking about Pakistan, I'm on about your monkey

of course, I'm intolerant of religion
No socialist is ....it is agianst their religion to do other wise.

OK, you just have problems with grammar in general
Who said anything about being a socialist ?
You did with the destribution of the thier failed ideas.
Of course you aren't a socialist...just someone who in believes
in thier ideas.

You're a ****ing loonie mate

Do you think that he still thinks that you are politically correct,
Geoff?

I certainly hope that any misconception in that direction has now been
rectified

looks like the others aren't taking the bait anymore

... that's my sunday night fun gone then


Spoke too soon there - another two septics killed by a gunman today

Something to do with xtians or something

Whatever happened to the "thou shalt not kill" bit of the 10 commandments
?

The US constitution, written by a bunch of Brits with chips on their
shoulders, overrode that!!

geoff wrote:
In message , Arnold Walker
writes
Hardly. A well-placed single shot would have done the job and not
exited the perp's miserable carcass.

Except, Einstein, he didn't stand there advertising the fact that he was
going to selectively shoot 8 people, did he

bang bang bang ...

in less time than Jim would have had to get his finger out of his arse

job done, game over

No, time for you to get your todger out, take up position, take aim and
fire (well, in your (wet) dreams, maybe)
So by your definition there was no point in the cops even showing up .
Since they would have had to take position ,aim, and fire as well.
All fine and dandy for the outlaw I guess.

ICBW, but I would have presumed that there would have been armed
policemen in the mall

Fat lot of use they were, eh ?

Precisely. The only way to prevent it would be to make sure the idiot
never could get his hand on such a weapon in the first place.


If someone wants to kill a load of people and then him/herself, there
is essentially not much you CAN do except limit access to the sort of
technology that makes it possible to take out quite so many people.

geoff wrote:
In message , NapalmHeart
writes
You can't reason with an ass like geoff.
That mall is not too far from me; too bad there weren't any real
men with real weapons there, just a boy with an AK knockoff.... One of
my 230grain .45acp's would have taken his ass straight to hell faster
than he did on his own......

It is rather funny that they would refer to us as "Ameristan" when
Europe is getting Islamified from the inside out. Their countries and
culture will be taken from them and flushed before they can do a damn
thing about it.



Ha - Black Hawk down on TV ATM

More septics getting their arses whupped by a few natives

Telling line

"This is how it is, we don't want your form of democracy here" or something

Have the americans ever actually won ANYTHING, since independence and
WW2 when they only joined when it was more or less over anyway ?

They won the Civil war..or did they lose?

Mostly though they just pick on smaller countries. Or tribes.

"Arnold Walker" wrote in message
...

"geoff" wrote in message
...
In message , Arnold Walker
writes

"geoff" wrote in message
...
In message , Arnold Walker
writes
... your country is run by a monkey who believes in the literal
Armageddon
And the monkey in Pakistan don't .......

You have a problem with plurals,don't you ...

who's talking about Pakistan, I'm on about your monkey



of course, I'm intolerant of religion
No socialist is ....it is agianst their religion to do other wise.

OK, you just have problems with grammar in general

Who said anything about being a socialist ?
You did with the destribution of the thier failed ideas.
Of course you aren't a socialist...just someone who in believes
in thier ideas.

You're a ****ing loonie mate
Thanks ....that's what the American colonist were called for thinking
about freedom,liberty,and religious tolerance..

....and shooting out the whole 2nd year at school too....

"Eeyore" wrote in message
...


Jim wrote:

That mall is not too far from me; too bad there weren't any real men
with real weapons there, just a boy with an AK knockoff.... One of my
230grain .45acp's would have taken his ass straight to hell faster than
he
did on his own......

MORON

Graham,
In areas where it is illegal to have guns, only people with no regard
for the law will have guns. It is perfectly legal for me to have a handgun
(I have 3) and if I had heard this twit firing I would certainly have filled
his cerebrum with lead ASAP.
We are all glad you live in a society that feels it can get by without
guns, but in most of the world that is wishful thinking.
And it shall be that way soon in Britainistan.....

"Ken Maltby" wrote in message
...

"geoff" wrote
YeeHa you ****ing redneck

The fact is you didn't and eight people died


It may have been a sad fact that Jim wasn't there,
but one thing is for sure Your being there would
have been useless.

Well, he might have gotten shot; that would have been useful.........


Luck;
Ken

"NapalmHeart" wrote in message
...

"The Natural Philosopher" wrote
WE have the good sense to see that those supplying unsuitable weapons are
the real criminals.

Actually, it wasn't an AK-47, as that is a selective-fire weapon. It was
a semi-auto only variant called an AKM. The news media doesn't always get
the facts right.
I was wondering about the model; I used to have 8 MAK90's.

"NapalmHeart" wrote in message
...

"Eeyore" wrote in message
...


Jim wrote:

That mall is not too far from me; too bad there weren't any real men
with real weapons there, just a boy with an AK knockoff.... One of my
230grain .45acp's would have taken his ass straight to hell faster than
he
did on his own......

MORON


It appears you are. Jim posts truth.
...the full truth, and nothing but the truth......
Graham lives in a dreamland called Britain where nothing bad ever
happens.
Well, except train bombings, little children being murdered in school by
a crazy man with a gun, Jack the Ripper, etc.....
And wait til he finds out what Sharia Law feels like. Anybody even
mentions that crap around here and the folks at First Baptist Church will
skin those mullahs alive......
I love the way that crazy guy in Colorado never stopped to wonder if the
church he shot up had a security guard.....

"NapalmHeart" wrote in message
...

"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message
...
Jim wrote:
"NapalmHeart" wrote in message
...
"geoff" wrote in message
...
In message , NapalmHeart
writes
YeeHa

Another eight septics down and more injured in a shopping mall in
Nebraska

I bet they were prepared to deal with a predator - they just didn't
see it coming

That mall is a "gun free zone."

So he committed TWO offences then

shooting to death of 8 septics AND taking a firearm into a gun free
zone

what a naughty boy
The point is that the "gun free zone" designation doesn't deter those
who don't respect the rule of law. The only people who are deterred
are those who might have made a difference in the outcome.

Ken

You can't reason with an ass like geoff.
That mall is not too far from me; too bad there weren't any real men
with real weapons there, just a boy with an AK knockoff

He managed - by your standards -= pretty well with that.

He stopped to reload; I've had 8 of those guns, with 10,20,30 and 75rd
clips. I doubt he was using a 10..... He was pitiful.



.... One of my 230grain .45acp's would have taken his ass straight to
hell faster than he did on his own......


And half a dozen other people in the line of fire too.

Hardly. A well-placed single shot would have done the job and not exited
the perp's miserable carcass.

Very true; they're subsonic and so freaking wide that overpenetration is
virtually unheard of. Yet another example of boys who don't know $h!t
jabbering away....

"NapalmHeart" wrote in message
...

"Phil Gardner" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 8 Dec 2007 20:02:08 -0600, "Jim" wrote:


That mall is not too far from me; too bad there weren't any real men
with real weapons there, just a boy with an AK knockoff.... One of my
230grain .45acp's would have taken his ass straight to hell faster than
he
did on his own......


Apparently the distance between the United States and Europe is slowly
growing wider.
http://www.fpif.org/commentary/2003/0305europe.html
judging by the comments of our Ameristan cowboys it cant happen quick
enough for me.
Thank god for the big pond that separates us.


I agree. The farther socialist nanny-state ideas are from the USA, the
happier I'll be.
Yup; if we can just keep Hitlery out of office.....

"NapalmHeart" wrote
It is rather funny that they would refer to us as "Ameristan" when Europe
is getting Islamified from the inside out. Their countries and culture
will be taken from them and flushed before they can do a damn thing about
it.

Yeah, they really don't know anything about America. Their ignorance
shows every time their fingers type. Folks here are ready for another
right-wing rebellion, cuz we sure didn't get the one W promised us, and
Nancy Pelosi hasn't done a damned thing to help anyone.
I'M MAD AS HELL, AND I'M NOT GOING TO TAKE IT ANYMORE! will be our new
rallying cry.


Ken

"Arnold Walker" wrote in message
...

"geoff" wrote in message
...
In message , NapalmHeart
writes
.... One of my 230grain .45acp's would have taken his ass straight to
hell faster than he did on his own......


And half a dozen other people in the line of fire too.

Hardly. A well-placed single shot would have done the job and not
exited the perp's miserable carcass.

Except, Einstein, he didn't stand there advertising the fact that he was
going to selectively shoot 8 people, did he

bang bang bang ...

in less time than Jim would have had to get his finger out of his arse

job done, game over

No, time for you to get your todger out, take up position, take aim and
fire (well, in your (wet) dreams, maybe)
So by your definition there was no point in the cops even showing up .
Since they would have had to take position ,aim, and fire as well.
All fine and dandy for the outlaw I guess.

GEOFF IS AN ASS! He knows nothing.
The kid reloaded, that implies TIME when he was not firing, hence,
perfect chance to take him =down=. If only it hadn't been a GUN FREE ZONE!
THAT SURE WORKED OUT FINE, DIDN'T IT!!!!!!!!!???????

"Arnold Walker" wrote in message
...

"geoff" wrote in message
...
In message , Arnold Walker
writes

"geoff" wrote in message
...
In message , Arnold Walker
writes
... your country is run by a monkey who believes in the literal
Armageddon
And the monkey in Pakistan don't .......

You have a problem with plurals,don't you ...

who's talking about Pakistan, I'm on about your monkey



of course, I'm intolerant of religion
No socialist is ....it is agianst their religion to do other wise.

OK, you just have problems with grammar in general

Who said anything about being a socialist ?
You did with the destribution of the thier failed ideas.
Of course you aren't a socialist...just someone who in believes
in thier ideas.

You're a ****ing loonie mate
Thanks ....that's what the American colonist were called for thinking
about freedom,liberty,and religious tolerance..

And the right to keep and bear arms.....

In message , Jim
writes

"Ken Maltby" wrote in message
...

"geoff" wrote
YeeHa you ****ing redneck

The fact is you didn't and eight people died


It may have been a sad fact that Jim wasn't there,
but one thing is for sure Your being there would
have been useless.

Well, he might have gotten shot; that would have been useful.........

There there now, you poor thing - so a woman managed to do what you
couldn't then

you poor old crip


--
geoff

In message , Jim
writes

"NapalmHeart" wrote in message
...

"Eeyore" wrote in message
...


Jim wrote:

That mall is not too far from me; too bad there weren't any real men
with real weapons there, just a boy with an AK knockoff.... One of my
230grain .45acp's would have taken his ass straight to hell faster than
he
did on his own......

MORON


It appears you are. Jim posts truth.
...the full truth, and nothing but the truth......
Graham lives in a dreamland called Britain

While you live in cloud cuckoo land

your grip on reality gets weaker day by day



--
geoff

In message , Jim
writes

"Eeyore" wrote in message
...


Jim wrote:

That mall is not too far from me; too bad there weren't any real men
with real weapons there, just a boy with an AK knockoff.... One of my
230grain .45acp's would have taken his ass straight to hell faster than
he
did on his own......

MORON

Graham,
In areas where it is illegal to have guns, only people with no regard
for the law will have guns. It is perfectly legal for me to have a handgun
(I have 3) and if I had heard this twit firing I would certainly have filled
his cerebrum with lead ASAP.

No you wouldn't it would all have been over before you got your hand off
your dick

You talk big



--
geoff

Take him 30 seconds to get his fingers untangled from the hair so
deep.

"geoff" wrote in message
...
In message , Jim No
you wouldn't it would all have been over before you got your hand
off your dick

You talk big


--
geoff

In message , Jim
writes

"Arnold Walker" wrote in message
...

"geoff" wrote in message
...
In message , NapalmHeart
writes
.... One of my 230grain .45acp's would have taken his ass straight to
hell faster than he did on his own......


And half a dozen other people in the line of fire too.

Hardly. A well-placed single shot would have done the job and not
exited the perp's miserable carcass.

Except, Einstein, he didn't stand there advertising the fact that he was
going to selectively shoot 8 people, did he

bang bang bang ...

in less time than Jim would have had to get his finger out of his arse

job done, game over

No, time for you to get your todger out, take up position, take aim and
fire (well, in your (wet) dreams, maybe)
So by your definition there was no point in the cops even showing up .
Since they would have had to take position ,aim, and fire as well.
All fine and dandy for the outlaw I guess.

GEOFF IS AN ASS! He knows nothing.
The kid reloaded, that implies TIME when he was not firing, hence,
perfect chance to take him =down=. If only it hadn't been a GUN FREE ZONE!

Ah, now that's a shame - rules, eh?

What about the police there, were they armed

THAT SURE WORKED OUT FINE, DIDN'T IT!!!!!!!!!???????

****ing right mate - eight less septics to worry about

And another two yesterday (took a woman to sort that one Jim)




--
geoff

In message , The Natural
Philosopher writes
geoff wrote:
In message , NapalmHeart
writes
You can't reason with an ass like geoff.
That mall is not too far from me; too bad there weren't any real
men with real weapons there, just a boy with an AK knockoff.... One of
my 230grain .45acp's would have taken his ass straight to hell faster
than he did on his own......

It is rather funny that they would refer to us as "Ameristan" when
Europe is getting Islamified from the inside out. Their countries and
culture will be taken from them and flushed before they can do a damn
thing about it.

Ha - Black Hawk down on TV ATM
More septics getting their arses whupped by a few natives
Telling line
"This is how it is, we don't want your form of democracy here" or
something
Have the americans ever actually won ANYTHING, since independence
and WW2 when they only joined when it was more or less over anyway ?

They won the Civil war..or did they lose?

Mostly though they just pick on smaller countries. Or tribes.

or pay druglords to do their dirty work for them


--
geoff

In message , Jim
writes

"NapalmHeart" wrote
It is rather funny that they would refer to us as "Ameristan" when Europe
is getting Islamified from the inside out. Their countries and culture
will be taken from them and flushed before they can do a damn thing about
it.

Yeah, they really don't know anything about America. Their ignorance
shows every time their fingers type. Folks here are ready for another
right-wing rebellion, cuz we sure didn't get the one W promised us, and
Nancy Pelosi hasn't done a damned thing to help anyone.
I'M MAD

That's for sure

--
geoff

"geoff" wrote in message
...

And another two yesterday (took a woman to sort that one Jim)
--
geoff

Yes a woman, church volunteer, private citizen
with a concealed carry permit. A good example of
what can actually work to address this problem.

"geoff" your posts show you to be such that it would
be pointless try and include your comments in any
rational adult conversation. In this case your statement
makes my point, although I suspect you didn't realize
that.


Luck;
Ken

In message , Ken Maltby
writes

"geoff" wrote in message
...

And another two yesterday (took a woman to sort that one Jim)
--
geoff

Yes a woman, church volunteer, private citizen
with a concealed carry permit. A good example of
what can actually work to address this problem.

So, a person who claims to be xtian then ...

What happened to "thou shalt not kill"?

I didn't notice any exceptions or exclusions there ...


"geoff" your posts show you to be such that it would
be pointless try and include your comments in any
rational adult conversation. In this case your statement
makes my point, although I suspect you didn't realize
that.




You should have realised by now that my object is to rip the **** out of
you septic rednecks - I don't claim that my posts are any more rational
than what others post here

especially Jim who seems to be losing it bit by bit

Keep an eye on him ...


--
geoff

Jim wrote:
"Eeyore" wrote in message
...

Jim wrote:

That mall is not too far from me; too bad there weren't any real men
with real weapons there, just a boy with an AK knockoff.... One of my
230grain .45acp's would have taken his ass straight to hell faster than
he
did on his own......
MORON

Graham,
In areas where it is illegal to have guns, only people with no regard
for the law will have guns. It is perfectly legal for me to have a handgun
(I have 3) and if I had heard this twit firing I would certainly have filled
his cerebrum with lead ASAP.
We are all glad you live in a society that feels it can get by without
guns, but in most of the world that is wishful thinking.
And it shall be that way soon in Britainistan.....


Oh dear. Another fantasist.

We don't believe wqe can get by in a land without guns: we just feel
that by making them extremely hard to get and illegal to own without a
good reason - and 'for perssonal protection' is held not to be any good
reason at all, then anyone who has one and is found to have one gets
locked up BEFORE he has a chance to iuse it.

The statistics speak for themselves.

Arnold Walker wrote:
"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message
...
Jim wrote:
"Eeyore" wrote in message
...
Jim wrote:

That mall is not too far from me; too bad there weren't any real
men
with real weapons there, just a boy with an AK knockoff.... One of my
230grain .45acp's would have taken his ass straight to hell faster than
he
did on his own......
MORON

Graham,
In areas where it is illegal to have guns, only people with no regard
for the law will have guns. It is perfectly legal for me to have a
handgun (I have 3) and if I had heard this twit firing I would certainly
have filled his cerebrum with lead ASAP.
We are all glad you live in a society that feels it can get by
without guns, but in most of the world that is wishful thinking.
And it shall be that way soon in Britainistan.....
Oh dear. Another fantasist.

We don't believe wqe can get by in a land without guns: we just feel that
by making them extremely hard to get and illegal to own without a good
reason - and 'for perssonal protection' is held not to be any good reason
at all, then anyone who has one and is found to have one gets locked up
BEFORE he has a chance to iuse it.

The statistics speak for themselves.
And the statistics say that outlaws don't act up as often both in and out of
government.
we can look at many of your European countries for grievous examples of just
that.
Like Russia with a corrupt socialist state and really mean thug population
and police state law on guns.
But then that is what socialist feel safest with, is a police state and what
the entire gun control issue is really about.
Most socialist have enorgh sense to know that general public does not want a
police state by nature,so they cloud the
water a bit so you don't see that aspect of thier gun control.


What you fail to realise is that your experience is not first hand, nor
even second hand. Its at best third hand from infirmation that is
slanted specifically to make you feel smug, superiors. american, and
just paranoid enough to buy lots of guns and other bang bangs, and keep
the small arms business highly profitable.

In so doing you become the laughing stock of the civilised world.
Normally we are too polite to point this out, but years of the shrub
have tried everybodt's patience.

On 26 Oct, 23:41, "Ron Purvis" wrote:
"Doctor Drivel" wrote in message
reenews.net...
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That is why you pay taxes. Notice, apart from the odd plantpot, all the
people from the UK on this thread are firmly against guns and the police
being armed. While the Americans are the opposite. Why? Because our
society doesn't need them for us to walk around safely. If your society
entails that you need a gun to safely go to the shops for some milk, then
start looking at your society and aim to change it at the root level. Aim
for the best.
The truth is that you and the others who feel this way are either misguided
or stupid. It doesn't take long for you to verify that there is the same
crimes happening in the UK as there is in the US. According tohttp://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_rap_percap-crime-rapes-per-capitayou
can see that the UK is number 13 for rapes in the world, which is only 4
places down from the US. Doesn't seem like you are a whole safer than the US
when you look at the number of rapes per capita. You just gave up the right
for your women to defend themselves. There isn't all that much difference in
the rate of other violent crimes either if you bother to look on the same
site. I mean the UK is only two spots below the US in assaults per capita.

If you look at the burglaries, there is about twice as many per capita in
the UK as the US. That could be because criminals here in the US realize
that there is a bigger chance of getting shot. If you look at robberies, the
US is safer there as well. As a matter of fact, total crimes per capita, the
UK is worse than the US.

What does this all mean? That you and the other elitist out there that think
that there country is so much better than the US are all morons.

Please forgive me for coming late to the party, but I'm just reading
through this thread for the first time...

While I understand that you were challenging the slur on your country
- and I agree that anyone who thinks their country substantially
better than any other is generally a bit of a moron - I have to
challenge your view on crime. First up, there are significant cultural
and population differences between the US as a whole and the UK that
make such comparisons slightly pointless - not least of which is that
the UK is a significantly more densely populated place than the US.

However: what you have shown, while trying to shout down those
"morons", is that the US and the UK are broadly similar in most crime
statistics; a glaring exception being violent crime, gun-related and
otherwise, where the US outstrips the UK dramatically (source: your
referenced site). Hardly support for the idea that guns make for a
safer society, is it? Personally, I'd rather have a higher incidence
of burglary than a massive increase in violent crime...

Note that I am not in favour of our current gun legislation. I think
it has done little or nothing to make us safer and has succeeded
primarily in affecting sport shooting only. Nor, in fact, am I totally
unsympathetic to the left-pondian gun-lobby. However, I do not think
that an impartial observer can ignore the fact that those nations that
are awash with guns have more gun crime.

"Adam-the-Kiwi" wrote
However, I do not think
that an impartial observer can ignore the fact that those nations that
are awash with guns have more gun crime.

Well, here in America, the =right= people are buying more guns and
getting the right to carry them. I have been investigated by the FBI and a
psychiatrist and come through with flying colors. For too long, we have let
gangsta rappers and other folks think they are the only one who know how to
shoot. Me and my Glock 36 will be ready if the time comes.....