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SteveB writes:
Let me ask the dumb question, where do you buy kerosene? I would think Ace or Home Depot, as they sell the kerosene heaters. Is that right? And is kerosene a good cleaner? At paint stores and the paint aisle at big-boxes at an insane retail markup. Or WD-40 if you like it perfumed. Diesel fuel is close enough for degreasing applications. Filling stations sell it from pumps in rural, cold climates for heaters. |
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Some gas stations sell kerosene, we have a Speedway nearby that does
it. I normally keep a 5 gallon container with Kero for starting fires in my firepit, and cleaning parts. i On 2008-03-19, Richard J Kinch wrote: SteveB writes: Let me ask the dumb question, where do you buy kerosene? I would think Ace or Home Depot, as they sell the kerosene heaters. Is that right? And is kerosene a good cleaner? At paint stores and the paint aisle at big-boxes at an insane retail markup. Or WD-40 if you like it perfumed. Diesel fuel is close enough for degreasing applications. Filling stations sell it from pumps in rural, cold climates for heaters. |
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SteveB wrote: I got some parts I need to clean. I have gas and acetone, and a quart or so of mineral spirits. What's a good solvent for cleaning the exterior of carburetors, engine parts, etc, in a sink or tub with a parts brush that won't eat your brain out or blow you up? I have heard kerosene. Let me ask the dumb question, where do you buy kerosene? I would think Ace or Home Depot, as they sell the kerosene heaters. Is that right? And is kerosene a good cleaner? Wish I had one of those parts washing sinks (SD?), but I'd use it about twice a year. Sure are handy, though. Steve The last carb I cleaned I used Simple Green in the Harbor Freight heated ultrasonic cleaner. After a 10 min cycle in the cleaner I blew everything clear and dry with compressed air, reassembled and the formerly non-op carb worked perfectly. |
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SteveB wrote:
I got some parts I need to clean. I have gas and acetone, and a quart or so of mineral spirits. What's a good solvent for cleaning the exterior of carburetors, engine parts, etc, in a sink or tub with a parts brush that won't eat your brain out or blow you up? I have heard kerosene. Let me ask the dumb question, where do you buy kerosene? I would think Ace or Home Depot, as they sell the kerosene heaters. Is that right? And is kerosene a good cleaner? Wish I had one of those parts washing sinks (SD?), but I'd use it about twice a year. Sure are handy, though. Steve Odorless lamp oil aka kerosene from your hardware store. Works, doesn't stink like real kero or diesel. /mark |
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"Pete C." wrote: SteveB wrote: I got some parts I need to clean. I have gas and acetone, and a quart or so of mineral spirits. What's a good solvent for cleaning the exterior of carburetors, engine parts, etc, in a sink or tub with a parts brush that won't eat your brain out or blow you up? I have heard kerosene. Let me ask the dumb question, where do you buy kerosene? I would think Ace or Home Depot, as they sell the kerosene heaters. Is that right? And is kerosene a good cleaner? Wish I had one of those parts washing sinks (SD?), but I'd use it about twice a year. Sure are handy, though. Steve The last carb I cleaned I used Simple Green in the Harbor Freight heated ultrasonic cleaner. After a 10 min cycle in the cleaner I blew everything clear and dry with compressed air, reassembled and the formerly non-op carb worked perfectly. Pete, what mix ratio did you use for the Simple Green and how well did it clean? Did it remove the black carbon that's usually in the barrel(s) of the carb? |
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I don't know how often you might want a really clean part, but the auto
parts stores sell a gallon can of carb cleaner that REALLY works. the motor heads call it "boiling out the carb" to use it. You don't heat the stuff, though. The gallon can, like a paint can, has a basket inside that you toss the parts into. Read the label. Looks like brand new when done. Costs $30. Lasts for many years with the lid on tight. The auto stores also have less flammable solvents. One used to be called "Stoddard Solvent". Kerosene won't blow you up, but it sure is flammable. I agree with another poster that diesel fuel works okay, just not quite as active as kerosene. BTW, the diesel works well as a lubricant for cutting alumimum. You'll pay through the nose, I think, if you buy Kerosene at a hardware-type store. Cleaning the exterior of engines: Gunk, at the auto store. Couple of bucks a can. I'd seriously avoid using gasoline around parts made of iron and steel, at least. Acetone can't be much better. Wear gloves. I like the orange colored "refinishing gloves" sold at Menard's and other places in the Paint Aisle. Take care, Pete Stanaitis --------------- SteveB wrote: I got some parts I need to clean. I have gas and acetone, and a quart or so of mineral spirits. What's a good solvent for cleaning the exterior of carburetors, engine parts, etc, in a sink or tub with a parts brush that won't eat your brain out or blow you up? I have heard kerosene. Let me ask the dumb question, where do you buy kerosene? I would think Ace or Home Depot, as they sell the kerosene heaters. Is that right? And is kerosene a good cleaner? Wish I had one of those parts washing sinks (SD?), but I'd use it about twice a year. Sure are handy, though. Steve |
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I got some parts I need to clean. I have gas and acetone, and a quart or so
of mineral spirits. What's a good solvent for cleaning the exterior of carburetors, engine parts, etc, in a sink or tub with a parts brush that won't eat your brain out or blow you up? I have heard kerosene. Let me ask the dumb question, where do you buy kerosene? I would think Ace or Home Depot, as they sell the kerosene heaters. Is that right? And is kerosene a good cleaner? Wish I had one of those parts washing sinks (SD?), but I'd use it about twice a year. Sure are handy, though. Steve |
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SteveB wrote:
I got some parts I need to clean. I have gas and acetone, and a quart or so of mineral spirits. What's a good solvent for cleaning the exterior of carburetors, engine parts, etc, in a sink or tub with a parts brush that won't eat your brain out or blow you up? I have heard kerosene. Let me ask the dumb question, where do you buy kerosene? I would think Ace or Home Depot, as they sell the kerosene heaters. Is that right? And is kerosene a good cleaner? Wish I had one of those parts washing sinks (SD?), but I'd use it about twice a year. Sure are handy, though. Steve Well for a decent non flammable cleaner in a wash tub Simple Green works pretty well. I use it in my big tanks as well as in the ultrasonic cleaner I use for carbs and injectors. The acetone works good for cleaning carbs BUT you have to make sure that no rubber parts are in there. Kerosene can be purchased at most places that sell gasoline and diesel fuel (which also makes a good BUT smelly cleaner) However all the petroleum cleaners STINK and are flammable. -- Steve W. Near Cooperstown, New York |
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aarcuda69062 wrote:
In article , "Pete C." wrote: SteveB wrote: I got some parts I need to clean. I have gas and acetone, and a quart or so of mineral spirits. What's a good solvent for cleaning the exterior of carburetors, engine parts, etc, in a sink or tub with a parts brush that won't eat your brain out or blow you up? I have heard kerosene. Let me ask the dumb question, where do you buy kerosene? I would think Ace or Home Depot, as they sell the kerosene heaters. Is that right? And is kerosene a good cleaner? Wish I had one of those parts washing sinks (SD?), but I'd use it about twice a year. Sure are handy, though. Steve The last carb I cleaned I used Simple Green in the Harbor Freight heated ultrasonic cleaner. After a 10 min cycle in the cleaner I blew everything clear and dry with compressed air, reassembled and the formerly non-op carb worked perfectly. Pete, what mix ratio did you use for the Simple Green and how well did it clean? Did it remove the black carbon that's usually in the barrel(s) of the carb? Not Pete, but I use Sg in the cleaner as well. Does a real nice job in a conventional tank and in an ultrasonic I have as well. Mine gets mixed about 1SG-10Water. In the big tank it gets most of the crap. Real baked on grease is kind of tough. The carbon in the carbs comes off in the ultrasonic though. -- Steve W. |
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On Tue, 18 Mar 2008 20:37:54 -0800, "SteveB"
wrote: I got some parts I need to clean. I have gas and acetone, and a quart or so of mineral spirits. What's a good solvent for cleaning the exterior of carburetors, engine parts, etc, in a sink or tub with a parts brush that won't eat your brain out or blow you up? I have heard kerosene. Let me ask the dumb question, where do you buy kerosene? I would think Ace or Home Depot, as they sell the kerosene heaters. Is that right? And is kerosene a good cleaner? Wish I had one of those parts washing sinks (SD?), but I'd use it about twice a year. Sure are handy, though. Steve Simple Green. And Id give you 2 washers with pumps and heaters for free if you were close by. Gunner "Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire. Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us) off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give them self determination under "play nice" rules. Think of it as having your older brother knock the **** out of you for torturing the cat." Gunner |
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On Tue, 18 Mar 2008 21:54:05 -0500, Richard J Kinch
wrote: SteveB writes: Let me ask the dumb question, where do you buy kerosene? I would think Ace or Home Depot, as they sell the kerosene heaters. Is that right? And is kerosene a good cleaner? At paint stores and the paint aisle at big-boxes at an insane retail markup. Or WD-40 if you like it perfumed. Diesel fuel is close enough for degreasing applications. Filling stations sell it from pumps in rural, cold climates for heaters. K1 is right at $6 a gallon here. From the bulk plant. Ive had to change my shop heat over to propane because of the cost and live with the increased humitidy Gunner "Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire. Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us) off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give them self determination under "play nice" rules. Think of it as having your older brother knock the **** out of you for torturing the cat." Gunner |
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"SteveB" wrote in message ... I got some parts I need to clean. I have gas and acetone, and a quart or so of mineral spirits. What's a good solvent for cleaning the exterior of carburetors, engine parts, etc, in a sink or tub with a parts brush that won't eat your brain out or blow you up? I have heard kerosene. Let me ask the dumb question, where do you buy kerosene? I would think Ace or Home Depot, as they sell the kerosene heaters. Is that right? And is kerosene a good cleaner? Wish I had one of those parts washing sinks (SD?), but I'd use it about twice a year. Sure are handy, though. Steve Powdered automatic dishwasher detergent in hot water, high concentration. |
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On Tue, 18 Mar 2008 22:56:12 -0500, aarcuda69062
wrote: In article , "Pete C." wrote: The last carb I cleaned I used Simple Green in the Harbor Freight heated ultrasonic cleaner. After a 10 min cycle in the cleaner I blew everything clear and dry with compressed air, reassembled and the formerly non-op carb worked perfectly. Pete, what mix ratio did you use for the Simple Green and how well did it clean? Did it remove the black carbon that's usually in the barrel(s) of the carb? The best way to clean a carb (or most other small parts) is with a pail of carb cleaner. The best of those, in my opinion, are the ones based on cresylic acid. For washing with a brush, kerosene or diesel will work, but mineral spirits works a bit better. In a parts washer Safety-Kleen is a bit safer, firewise, and does a very good job. |
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On Tue, 18 Mar 2008 20:37:54 -0800, "SteveB"
wrote: I got some parts I need to clean. I have gas and acetone, and a quart or so of mineral spirits. What's a good solvent for cleaning the exterior of carburetors, engine parts, etc, in a sink or tub with a parts brush that won't eat your brain out or blow you up? I have heard kerosene. Let me ask the dumb question, where do you buy kerosene? I would think Ace or Home Depot, as they sell the kerosene heaters. Is that right? And is kerosene a good cleaner? Wish I had one of those parts washing sinks (SD?), but I'd use it about twice a year. Sure are handy, though. Steve Mineral spirits or kero with some Gunk SC. http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalo...nkproducts.php This is meant to be used with a solvent like mineral spirits, kero, diesel fuel etc and it works very well. About the only difference between diesel and kero is that diesel stinks more. It also has road tax, but they sell so much of it it is usually still cheaper than kero even with tax. #2 fuel oil also works but it really stinks and it's not as easy to buy in small quantity. I use mineral spirits. Less flammible, not as stinky, cheaper than milk by the gallon and it works fer me. |
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Look up Ed's red cleaner on the web. I skip the acetone and don't watch
proportions exactly - 1 ATF. 1 kerosene, 1 mineral spirits. Ed's Red cleaner: 1 part Dexron II, IIe or III ATF, GM Spec. D-20265 or later. 1 part Kerosene - deodorized, K1 1 part Aliphatic Mineral Spirits, Fed. Spec. TT-T-2981F, CAS #64741-49-9, or may substitute "Stoddard Solvent", CAS #8052-41-3, or equivalent, (aka "Varsol") 1 part Acetone, CAS #67-64-1. (Optional up to 1 lb. of Lanolin, Anhydrous, USP per gallon, OK to substitute Lanolin, Modified, Topical Lubricant, from the drug store) |
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On Tue, 18 Mar 2008 21:38:29 -0600, with neither quill nor qualm,
"Pete C." quickly quoth: SteveB wrote: I got some parts I need to clean. I have gas and acetone, and a quart or so of mineral spirits. What's a good solvent for cleaning the exterior of carburetors, engine parts, etc, in a sink or tub with a parts brush that won't eat your brain out or blow you up? I have heard kerosene. Let me ask the dumb question, where do you buy kerosene? I would think Ace or Home Depot, as they sell the kerosene heaters. Is that right? And is kerosene a good cleaner? Wish I had one of those parts washing sinks (SD?), but I'd use it about twice a year. Sure are handy, though. Steve The last carb I cleaned I used Simple Green in the Harbor Freight heated ultrasonic cleaner. After a 10 min cycle in the cleaner I blew everything clear and dry with compressed air, reassembled and the formerly non-op carb worked perfectly. Didn't the ultrasound shake loose some of the pressed-in brass orifices? I'd be hard pressed to try that option for that reason. -- Death is more universal than life; everyone dies but not everyone lives. -- A. Sachs |
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On Wed, 19 Mar 2008 02:09:29 -0500, with neither quill nor qualm, Jim
Levie quickly quoth: On Tue, 18 Mar 2008 22:56:12 -0500, aarcuda69062 wrote: In article , "Pete C." wrote: The last carb I cleaned I used Simple Green in the Harbor Freight heated ultrasonic cleaner. After a 10 min cycle in the cleaner I blew everything clear and dry with compressed air, reassembled and the formerly non-op carb worked perfectly. Pete, what mix ratio did you use for the Simple Green and how well did it clean? Did it remove the black carbon that's usually in the barrel(s) of the carb? The best way to clean a carb (or most other small parts) is with a pail of carb cleaner. The best of those, in my opinion, are the ones based on cresylic acid. I agree, wholeheartedly. B-9 Chem Dip (no longer legal in CA) is stinky stuff, but it works -extremely- well for those minute passages which really need cleanout. For aerosols, Berryman's B-12 is tops, and it can be used for starting fluid as well. For washing with a brush, kerosene or diesel will work, but mineral spirits works a bit better. In a parts washer Safety-Kleen is a bit safer, firewise, and does a very good job. Yes, Safety-Kleen is a very good kero substitute. -- Death is more universal than life; everyone dies but not everyone lives. -- A. Sachs |
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On Tue, 18 Mar 2008 20:37:54 -0800, with neither quill nor qualm,
"SteveB" quickly quoth: I got some parts I need to clean. I have gas and acetone, and a quart or so of mineral spirits. What's a good solvent for cleaning the exterior of carburetors, engine parts, etc, in a sink or tub with a parts brush that won't eat your brain If it doesn't eat your brain, it won't clean the most intimate passages in the carburetor body. Cresols rule! -- Death is more universal than life; everyone dies but not everyone lives. -- A. Sachs |
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aarcuda69062 wrote: In article , "Pete C." wrote: SteveB wrote: I got some parts I need to clean. I have gas and acetone, and a quart or so of mineral spirits. What's a good solvent for cleaning the exterior of carburetors, engine parts, etc, in a sink or tub with a parts brush that won't eat your brain out or blow you up? I have heard kerosene. Let me ask the dumb question, where do you buy kerosene? I would think Ace or Home Depot, as they sell the kerosene heaters. Is that right? And is kerosene a good cleaner? Wish I had one of those parts washing sinks (SD?), but I'd use it about twice a year. Sure are handy, though. Steve The last carb I cleaned I used Simple Green in the Harbor Freight heated ultrasonic cleaner. After a 10 min cycle in the cleaner I blew everything clear and dry with compressed air, reassembled and the formerly non-op carb worked perfectly. Pete, what mix ratio did you use for the Simple Green and how well did it clean? Did it remove the black carbon that's usually in the barrel(s) of the carb? I don't recall the exact ratio, fairly strong like 25% SG. No carbon in this particular one, it was from a small pressure washer engine. |
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Larry Jaques wrote: On Tue, 18 Mar 2008 21:38:29 -0600, with neither quill nor qualm, "Pete C." quickly quoth: SteveB wrote: I got some parts I need to clean. I have gas and acetone, and a quart or so of mineral spirits. What's a good solvent for cleaning the exterior of carburetors, engine parts, etc, in a sink or tub with a parts brush that won't eat your brain out or blow you up? I have heard kerosene. Let me ask the dumb question, where do you buy kerosene? I would think Ace or Home Depot, as they sell the kerosene heaters. Is that right? And is kerosene a good cleaner? Wish I had one of those parts washing sinks (SD?), but I'd use it about twice a year. Sure are handy, though. Steve The last carb I cleaned I used Simple Green in the Harbor Freight heated ultrasonic cleaner. After a 10 min cycle in the cleaner I blew everything clear and dry with compressed air, reassembled and the formerly non-op carb worked perfectly. Didn't the ultrasound shake loose some of the pressed-in brass orifices? I'd be hard pressed to try that option for that reason. Not in a little pressure washer carb. |
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On Wed, 19 Mar 2008 06:25:15 -0700, Larry Jaques
wrote: Didn't the ultrasound shake loose some of the pressed-in brass orifices? I'd be hard pressed to try that option for that reason. Not in a little pressure washer carb. I wondered how a Carter AFB throttle body might possibly fit in an ultrasound tub. Perhaps if quartered first? g You could fit four in each ultrasonic bath on this automated cleaning system I built about 2 years ago. The 10 gallon usonic tanks are on the right, there are 4 heated rinse baths under the black insulation on the right. http://www.suscom-maine.net/~nsimmons/news/Washer01.jpg http://www.suscom-maine.net/~nsimmons/news/Washer02.jpg http://www.suscom-maine.net/~nsimmons/news/Washer03.jpg I wouldn't think the inserts in a carb would be a problem - jewelers clean rings with stone settings in ultrasonic cleaners. -- Ned Simmons |
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On Tue, 18 Mar 2008 23:46:32 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote: On Tue, 18 Mar 2008 21:54:05 -0500, Richard J Kinch wrote: Filling stations sell it from pumps in rural, cold climates for heaters. K1 is right at $6 a gallon here. From the bulk plant. Yikes. I bought a year's contract @ $2.59/gal last summer; the last delivery would have been $3.15 without the contract, but that was back in the fall. The delivered cash price here in ME is $4.23 today. I better make sure the tank is full when the contract runs out in May. -- Ned Simmons |
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"SteveB" writes:
I got some parts I need to clean. I have gas and acetone, and a quart or so of mineral spirits. What's a good solvent for cleaning the exterior of carburetors, engine parts, etc, in a sink or tub with a parts brush that won't eat your brain out or blow you up? I have heard kerosene. Let me ask the dumb question, where do you buy kerosene? I would think Ace or Home Depot, as they sell the kerosene heaters. Is that right? And is kerosene a good cleaner? I'm a big fan of mineral spirits, which are commonly sold as paint thinner. They are virtually the same thing as kerosene (I haven't actually checked which one is cheaper). I typically get parts as clean as I can with mineral spirits, and then finish the job with brake cleaner spray. You will want to wear nitrile gloves for this. |
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Larry Jaques wrote: On Wed, 19 Mar 2008 12:47:38 GMT, with neither quill nor qualm, "Pete C." quickly quoth: Larry Jaques wrote: On Tue, 18 Mar 2008 21:38:29 -0600, with neither quill nor qualm, "Pete C." quickly quoth: The last carb I cleaned I used Simple Green in the Harbor Freight heated ultrasonic cleaner. After a 10 min cycle in the cleaner I blew everything clear and dry with compressed air, reassembled and the formerly non-op carb worked perfectly. Didn't the ultrasound shake loose some of the pressed-in brass orifices? I'd be hard pressed to try that option for that reason. Not in a little pressure washer carb. I wondered how a Carter AFB throttle body might possibly fit in an ultrasound tub. Perhaps if quartered first? g Not familiar with that, but the HF # 95563 has a fairly large tank. Might just have to do half submerged at a time. |
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"Joe Pfeiffer" wrote in message ... "SteveB" writes: I got some parts I need to clean. I have gas and acetone, and a quart or so of mineral spirits. What's a good solvent for cleaning the exterior of carburetors, engine parts, etc, in a sink or tub with a parts brush that won't eat your brain out or blow you up? I have heard kerosene. Let me ask the dumb question, where do you buy kerosene? I would think Ace or Home Depot, as they sell the kerosene heaters. Is that right? And is kerosene a good cleaner? I'm a big fan of mineral spirits, which are commonly sold as paint thinner. They are virtually the same thing as kerosene (I haven't actually checked which one is cheaper). "Mineral spirits," common paint thinner, is also known as Stoddard Solvent. It's moderately active, somewhat less so than gasoline. A Coleman employee once told me that this is what they used to sell as "white gasoline," but I don't know that for a fact. -- Ed Huntress |
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"Pete C." wrote in message ... SteveB wrote: I got some parts I need to clean. I have gas and acetone, and a quart or so of mineral spirits. What's a good solvent for cleaning the exterior of carburetors, engine parts, etc, in a sink or tub with a parts brush that won't eat your brain out or blow you up? I have heard kerosene. Let me ask the dumb question, where do you buy kerosene? I would think Ace or Home Depot, as they sell the kerosene heaters. Is that right? And is kerosene a good cleaner? Wish I had one of those parts washing sinks (SD?), but I'd use it about twice a year. Sure are handy, though. Steve The last carb I cleaned I used Simple Green in the Harbor Freight heated ultrasonic cleaner. After a 10 min cycle in the cleaner I blew everything clear and dry with compressed air, reassembled and the formerly non-op carb worked perfectly. Simple Green has been outlawed for use on aircraft by the Army and the California Fire fighters. I seems that corrosion caused by Simple Green caused failures in aircraft parts. There is a New concoction called Extreme Simple Green that has been approved. I will only use Simple Green on the concrete floor and then rinse it off completely. Stu |
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Stuart & Kathryn Fields wrote: "Pete C." wrote in message ... SteveB wrote: I got some parts I need to clean. I have gas and acetone, and a quart or so of mineral spirits. What's a good solvent for cleaning the exterior of carburetors, engine parts, etc, in a sink or tub with a parts brush that won't eat your brain out or blow you up? I have heard kerosene. Let me ask the dumb question, where do you buy kerosene? I would think Ace or Home Depot, as they sell the kerosene heaters. Is that right? And is kerosene a good cleaner? Wish I had one of those parts washing sinks (SD?), but I'd use it about twice a year. Sure are handy, though. Steve The last carb I cleaned I used Simple Green in the Harbor Freight heated ultrasonic cleaner. After a 10 min cycle in the cleaner I blew everything clear and dry with compressed air, reassembled and the formerly non-op carb worked perfectly. Simple Green has been outlawed for use on aircraft by the Army and the California Fire fighters. I seems that corrosion caused by Simple Green caused failures in aircraft parts. There is a New concoction called Extreme Simple Green that has been approved. I will only use Simple Green on the concrete floor and then rinse it off completely. Stu Interesting. SG is one of the recommended cleaners for SCUBA regulators and components. |
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Pete C. wrote:
Stuart & Kathryn Fields wrote: "Pete C." wrote in message ... SteveB wrote: I got some parts I need to clean. I have gas and acetone, and a quart or so of mineral spirits. What's a good solvent for cleaning the exterior of carburetors, engine parts, etc, in a sink or tub with a parts brush that won't eat your brain out or blow you up? I have heard kerosene. Let me ask the dumb question, where do you buy kerosene? I would think Ace or Home Depot, as they sell the kerosene heaters. Is that right? And is kerosene a good cleaner? Wish I had one of those parts washing sinks (SD?), but I'd use it about twice a year. Sure are handy, though. Steve The last carb I cleaned I used Simple Green in the Harbor Freight heated ultrasonic cleaner. After a 10 min cycle in the cleaner I blew everything clear and dry with compressed air, reassembled and the formerly non-op carb worked perfectly. Simple Green has been outlawed for use on aircraft by the Army and the California Fire fighters. I seems that corrosion caused by Simple Green caused failures in aircraft parts. There is a New concoction called Extreme Simple Green that has been approved. I will only use Simple Green on the concrete floor and then rinse it off completely. Stu Interesting. SG is one of the recommended cleaners for SCUBA regulators and components. SG attacks aluminum and some other metals if in contact for an extended time. Same for Purple Cleaner AKA Super Clean. But SG works real well for cleaning aluminum. You just have to rinse it as soon as your are done. It would probably also do a good job on a carb, but again, clean it out thoroughly. |
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"Ed Huntress" writes:
"Mineral spirits," common paint thinner, is also known as Stoddard Solvent. It's moderately active, somewhat less so than gasoline. A Coleman employee once told me that this is what they used to sell as "white gasoline," but I don't know that for a fact. I hadn't heard it called Stoddard Solvent before -- my dad used to just call it "solvent", and when I went looking for it nobody knew what I was talking about! I had heard Coleman white gas was indeed gasoline, but without additives (especially no lead). |
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"Joe Pfeiffer" wrote in message ... "Ed Huntress" writes: "Mineral spirits," common paint thinner, is also known as Stoddard Solvent. It's moderately active, somewhat less so than gasoline. A Coleman employee once told me that this is what they used to sell as "white gasoline," but I don't know that for a fact. I hadn't heard it called Stoddard Solvent before -- my dad used to just call it "solvent", and when I went looking for it nobody knew what I was talking about! I had heard Coleman white gas was indeed gasoline, but without additives (especially no lead). Ah, my memory let me down. It was naptha that he told me was "white gas," not Stoddard Solvent. I see that this is the generally understood meaning from various Web sources. -- Ed Huntress |
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On Wed, 19 Mar 2008 11:47:08 -0400, "Ed Huntress"
wrote: "Joe Pfeiffer" wrote in message . .. "SteveB" writes: I got some parts I need to clean. I have gas and acetone, and a quart or so of mineral spirits. What's a good solvent for cleaning the exterior of carburetors, engine parts, etc, in a sink or tub with a parts brush that won't eat your brain out or blow you up? I have heard kerosene. Let me ask the dumb question, where do you buy kerosene? I would think Ace or Home Depot, as they sell the kerosene heaters. Is that right? And is kerosene a good cleaner? I'm a big fan of mineral spirits, which are commonly sold as paint thinner. They are virtually the same thing as kerosene (I haven't actually checked which one is cheaper). "Mineral spirits," common paint thinner, is also known as Stoddard Solvent. It's moderately active, somewhat less so than gasoline. A Coleman employee once told me that this is what they used to sell as "white gasoline," but I don't know that for a fact. Definitely different stuff. Coleman fuel, or White Gas is Naptha. A WHOLE LOT more flamable and volatile than Varsol or Stoddard Solvent. -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
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Gunner Asch writes:
K1 is right at $6 a gallon here. From the bulk plant. Ouch. One wonders what the hydrogen fill-up would cost. |
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Ed Huntress writes:
Ah, my memory let me down. It was naptha that he told me was "white gas," not Stoddard Solvent. Naptha is a brand name for soap. Naphtha is the petroleum product. Coleman fuel is indeed like gasoline in weight and volatility, not kerosene. Roughly hexane in my estimate, and very aliphatic and clean of aromatic hydrocarbons and sulfur. Next to no heavy stuff that leaves a residue. Wipe it on glass and see. Excellent cleaner if you observe proper cautions; I use it in a quart Sure-Shot every day. Naphtha is a non-specific term, but the "VM&P" (varnish makers' and painters') naphtha is like Coleman fuel, as is necessary for making a fast- drying and low-residue paint solvent. I'm kicking myself for not stocking up on Coleman fuel when the store shelves had it for $2/gallon when gas first spiked over $3 a few years back. With the packaging and handling, Coleman fuel is typically about twice the gasoline price, and the retail lag is something to be finessed. |
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Rex writes:
SG attacks aluminum and some other metals if in contact for an extended time. Same for Purple Cleaner AKA Super Clean. Yep, because they contain LYE (NaOH, caustic soda), which is so effective a degreaser. They dull aluminum pretty much on contact, and over time much worse. |
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I bet you are thinking of "Fels-Naptha" soap. It's not naptha.
You can check the MSDS. Pete Stanaitis ----------------- Naptha is a brand name for soap. Naphtha is the petroleum product. |
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Doug Miller writes:
Despite your delusions, WD-40 is not kerosene, and neither is anything they sell in the paint aisle at big box stores. Inquire at Home Depot or Lowes before commenting further. See http://www.kleanstrip.com/ etc. Show a little manly probity, and discontinue your jackal-jabber. Nobody takes it seriously other than to perhaps log you as a fool. |
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spaco writes:
It's not naptha. Well, no, "naptha" is not naphtha, just a corruption on a quaint old product label. Kind of like Grape Nuts, no grapes, no nuts. Or Christian Scientists. |
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In article , Richard J Kinch wrote:
SteveB writes: Let me ask the dumb question, where do you buy kerosene? I would think Ace or Home Depot, as they sell the kerosene heaters. Is that right? And is kerosene a good cleaner? At paint stores and the paint aisle at big-boxes at an insane retail markup. Or WD-40 if you like it perfumed. Oh, geez, there you go again. Despite your delusions, WD-40 is not kerosene, and neither is anything they sell in the paint aisle at big box stores. |
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On Wed, 19 Mar 2008 20:16:46 -0500, Backlash wrote:
The motorcycle types put an old dishwasher in the shop and run bike parts through to clean them. Shop, hell, we used the boss's wife's machine when she wasn't home. Big-time hell to pay that day she came home early. It got loud; I left. For the record, don't use her "good scissors" to cut anything at all. Half Greek, half Cherokee. All temper. But FANTASTIC cook. |
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Any autoparts store has cleaning solvents in 2 to 5 gal. buckets for parts
cleaning. http://www.napaonline.com/MasterPage...vent&VehCode=N this link is to Napa Auto parts. Roger "SteveB" wrote in message ... I got some parts I need to clean. I have gas and acetone, and a quart or so of mineral spirits. What's a good solvent for cleaning the exterior of carburetors, engine parts, etc, in a sink or tub with a parts brush that won't eat your brain out or blow you up? I have heard kerosene. Let me ask the dumb question, where do you buy kerosene? I would think Ace or Home Depot, as they sell the kerosene heaters. Is that right? And is kerosene a good cleaner? Wish I had one of those parts washing sinks (SD?), but I'd use it about twice a year. Sure are handy, though. Steve |
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