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Steve Peterson
 
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"Harold & Susan Vordos" wrote in message
...

"Simon Jester" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 22 Feb 2004 22:53:28 -0800, "Harold & Susan Vordos"


wrote:
Huh?

I once saw a brown dog, therefore all dogs are brown?


If Canadian authorities won't work on an issue of crime, why take the

chance of
dealing with any Canadian? Don't like it? Get your lazy ass cops to do

something
about this Munroe character, he's been in the business if stealing from

people
for more than 5 years.


I'm not sure you understand. First off, I'm not Canadian. I also fail to
see the connection between being Canadian and being a crook. Susan and

I
were recently ripped off by a seller in Florida. Should I assume from

your
response that everyone in Florida, or perhaps the whole of the US, should

be
avoided?

I'm all for prosecution, and severe punishment, but the guilty parties,

not
everyone that inhabits a particular region.

Harold


There is probably more crooks per capita in the US than in Canada. I think
more people should try to get crooks prosecuted rather than being
embarrassed about being ripped off and not doing anything.


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Simon Jester wrote:

If Canadian authorities won't work on an issue of crime, why take the chance of
dealing with any Canadian? Don't like it? Get your lazy ass cops to do something
about this Munroe character, he's been in the business if stealing from people
for more than 5 years.


And if Americans keep sending him money and not making actual
complaints to the authorities about getting ripped off, why would he
stop ripping people off ? Between the US and Canadian Posties, various
police organizations, and just plain old word gettin' around (Al Babin
ring a bell?) the guy should not be able to operate, but I am reasonably
sure he rely's on people shrugging their shoulders and accepting a loss
as being less hassle than the effort it would take to do something about
it. To get police to do something, first, someone must make a formal
complaint. Our lazy as police are no better or worse than the American
lazy ass police.

Cheers
Trevor
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So THAT'S why nobody can do anything about Al Babin in Connecticut....
it's Canadian cops who are supposed to be after him!! I should have
realized!


Brian Lawson,
Bothwell, Ontario.
XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

On Mon, 23 Feb 2004 19:03:18 GMT, Simon Jester
wrote:

On Sun, 22 Feb 2004 22:53:28 -0800, "Harold & Susan Vordos"
wrote:
Huh?

I once saw a brown dog, therefore all dogs are brown?


If Canadian authorities won't work on an issue of crime, why take the chance of
dealing with any Canadian? Don't like it? Get your lazy ass cops to do something
about this Munroe character, he's been in the business if stealing from people
for more than 5 years.


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On Mon, 23 Feb 2004 14:24:33 -0600, "Steve Peterson" 123@nospam
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There is probably more crooks per capita in the US than in Canada. I think
more people should try to get crooks prosecuted rather than being
embarrassed about being ripped off and not doing anything.


Yep, more lawyers per capita too. Coincidence? :-)

James.


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On Mon, 23 Feb 2004 19:03:18 GMT, Simon Jester
wrote:

On Sun, 22 Feb 2004 22:53:28 -0800, "Harold & Susan Vordos"
wrote:
Huh?

I once saw a brown dog, therefore all dogs are brown?


If Canadian authorities won't work on an issue of crime, why take the chance of
dealing with any Canadian? Don't like it? Get your lazy ass cops to do something
about this Munroe character, he's been in the business if stealing from people
for more than 5 years.


Ah, yes, now here we have a problem. Thankfully we only have Tim
Horton's up here and not Krispy Kreme. Our fuzz would be twice the
size :-) Ever seen a cruiser with the lights on race to the nearest
donut shop? I have. Hilarious.

Seriously though it's a good idea. Where do you start? The local
police will say it's not their problem, the RCMP will say either it's
not a federal offense or they're looking into it - and never do
anything about it. The media doesn't care because it's too small.
You're left with small claims court. A formal complaint starts the
process I guess?? Will eBay shut him out? Has either post office
done anything??

James.



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On Mon, 23 Feb 2004 01:34:44 GMT, "JTMcC"
wrote:


"Jimbo" . wrote in message
...
JTMcC:

I think your assumption that terrorists are no threat to Canada is wrong

and
my reasons for thinking that are as follows.

Canada supplies the U.S.A. with far more oil/gas than all other countries
combined including Saudi Arabia. We also have an inter connected
hydroelectric and water grid that makes both our countries extremely
interdependent. Our mutual border includes many major bridges and

tunnels
that if they where attacked would cripple both our economies. We are

your
largest trading partner by far and that makes your security and ours a
mutual concern. Any terrorist with a brain knows what I have just said

is

Maybe, but I haven't seen yet a terrorist decry Canada, for any of the
reasons above. They decry, and hate the U.S. I haven't seen them burn the
Canadian flag on the nightly news, or as was already said, pronounce Canada
as "the great satan". I haven't seen them burn the Canadian leadersip in
effigee. And I really haven't seen the news footage of terrorists crashing
airliners into Canadian buildings.


You're right there. Who would want to do anything Canada? We don't
get involved except in a peace-keeping way, and while our government
is offensive, it's only to its citizens.

We simply don't have the troops to be everywhere. As for burning the
Canadian flag I think the US was only one burning the Cdn flag -
wasn't there an incident last year about it? Or was it booing the
Canadian anthem at a hockey game? Can't quite recall but I do recall
it was rather rude and uncivilized.

true and that my friend means we all have to be vigilant, doesn't it?


Or be more aware of the world? Change your foreign policy to be less,
um, what's the word I'm looking for .... can't quite think of it right
now.


You also have to take in to consideration that we have over 2000 troops in
Afganistan fighting the war on terrorism and that means the terrorist

don't
really like us either. I personally wish we had a bigger military force

but
I'm very proud of the extremely well trained professional men and women we
have stationed over there.


As am I, good for those guys. But the U.S. is the focus of radical muslim
hatred, not Canada. So I don't think it is beyond the pale that entrance
into the U.S. might take a little longer, be you a human or be you a crate.
And if you think, as one poster does, that U.S. customs equates to 1930's
and 40's nazi's (and I'm pretty sure you don't), then you need to go back
and re read your 20th century history. The Canadians were also there when we
beat down the nazi's, and I'm glad for that too!.


To be accurate, I think the correct phrase is that the Americans
joined Canada, Britain and many others in WW2. The war had been going
on for a while when the US joined in. Having the US in there with so
many troops really turned the war around.

James.


regards,
JTMcC.




Jimbo





"JTMcC" wrote in message
...

"James Watt" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 21 Feb 2004 21:46:53 GMT, "JTMcC"
wrote:


"jtaylor" wrote in message
...

Regis wrote in message
om...
A guy named Dave Munroe of Hiawatha, Canada ripped me off. He
advertised a 7 x 10 lathe on this news group for $175. I sent

the
money almost 4 weeks ago and the lathe has never showed up. He
claims
to be from Hiawatha, Ontario, Canada. He won't return my emails

or
my
calls. BEWARE OF THIS GUY! Scum like him screw home machinist

out
of
their hard earned money. If anyone know this guy please drop me

an
e-mail. I have his phone numbers and I am tempted to publish

them
here soon.

I had a fellow mail me a oboe from maine, only about 600 miles

away,
but
across the border.

Canada Customs are nowhere near as paranoid as US border nutzis.

That might be because the terrorists would most likely be traveling

from
Canada to the U.S., not the other way around. Surely you are not this
clueless?

Terrorists are now smuggling lathes? Either you're clueless or you
think US customs are. I'd be putting my money on customs - they have
to follow policy.....

Enough already. Not to to start another flame war, but the US killed
more since the WTC than were killed in the WTC, and let's not even
discuss what secret things the US govt has done to increase
instability in certain parts of the world. This whole media-centric
fearmongering causing mass paranoia and over-the-top "security" that
does very little to secure people has gone on too long and is getting
a little tired.

As for terriorists coming from Canada, that has not been shown to be
accurate, it's only a media trying to redirect focus from the real
problem - US foreign policy. Here in Canuck-ville we have a similar
dictatorship to the US. Every 5 years or so we elect a different
dictator. Given the Canadian dollar, however, even our most wealthy
can't buy a Prime Minister-ship.

James.

The fact is James, there is a threat to the U.S. and there is no threat

to
Canada.
Therefor it is reasonable that getting into the U.S. from a foriegn

country
(be you a human or a crate) requires a little more time and trouble.

It's
that simple.

JTMcC.




JTMcC.



Took three weeks.

Don't give up yet.










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James Watt wrote:

On Mon, 23 Feb 2004 14:24:33 -0600, "Steve Peterson" 123@nospam
wrote:



There is probably more crooks per capita in the US than in Canada. I think
more people should try to get crooks prosecuted rather than being
embarrassed about being ripped off and not doing anything.


Yep, more lawyers per capita too. Coincidence? :-)


He already said there were more crooks!



James.


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James Watt wrote:

On Mon, 23 Feb 2004 01:34:44 GMT, "JTMcC"
wrote:


"Jimbo" . wrote in message
...
JTMcC:

I think your assumption that terrorists are no threat to Canada is wrong

and
my reasons for thinking that are as follows.

Canada supplies the U.S.A. with far more oil/gas than all other countries
combined including Saudi Arabia. We also have an inter connected
hydroelectric and water grid that makes both our countries extremely
interdependent. Our mutual border includes many major bridges and

tunnels
that if they where attacked would cripple both our economies. We are

your
largest trading partner by far and that makes your security and ours a
mutual concern. Any terrorist with a brain knows what I have just said

is

Maybe, but I haven't seen yet a terrorist decry Canada, for any of the
reasons above. They decry, and hate the U.S. I haven't seen them burn the
Canadian flag on the nightly news, or as was already said, pronounce Canada
as "the great satan". I haven't seen them burn the Canadian leadersip in
effigee. And I really haven't seen the news footage of terrorists crashing
airliners into Canadian buildings.


You're right there. Who would want to do anything Canada? We don't
get involved except in a peace-keeping way, and while our government
is offensive, it's only to its citizens.

We simply don't have the troops to be everywhere. As for burning the
Canadian flag I think the US was only one burning the Cdn flag -
wasn't there an incident last year about it? Or was it booing the
Canadian anthem at a hockey game?


Nop that was our Frenchmen in Montreal booing the US national anthem.

Not even low class. No class.

Can't quite recall but I do recall
it was rather rude and uncivilized.

true and that my friend means we all have to be vigilant, doesn't it?


Or be more aware of the world? Change your foreign policy to be less,
um, what's the word I'm looking for .... can't quite think of it right
now.


You also have to take in to consideration that we have over 2000 troops in
Afganistan fighting the war on terrorism and that means the terrorist

don't
really like us either. I personally wish we had a bigger military force

but
I'm very proud of the extremely well trained professional men and women we
have stationed over there.


As am I, good for those guys. But the U.S. is the focus of radical muslim
hatred, not Canada. So I don't think it is beyond the pale that entrance
into the U.S. might take a little longer, be you a human or be you a crate.
And if you think, as one poster does, that U.S. customs equates to 1930's
and 40's nazi's (and I'm pretty sure you don't), then you need to go back
and re read your 20th century history. The Canadians were also there when we
beat down the nazi's, and I'm glad for that too!.


To be accurate, I think the correct phrase is that the Americans
joined Canada, Britain and many others in WW2. The war had been going
on for a while when the US joined in. Having the US in there with so
many troops really turned the war around.

James.


regards,
JTMcC.




Jimbo





"JTMcC" wrote in message
...

"James Watt" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 21 Feb 2004 21:46:53 GMT, "JTMcC"
wrote:


"jtaylor" wrote in message
...

Regis wrote in message
om...
A guy named Dave Munroe of Hiawatha, Canada ripped me off. He
advertised a 7 x 10 lathe on this news group for $175. I sent

the
money almost 4 weeks ago and the lathe has never showed up. He
claims
to be from Hiawatha, Ontario, Canada. He won't return my emails

or
my
calls. BEWARE OF THIS GUY! Scum like him screw home machinist

out
of
their hard earned money. If anyone know this guy please drop me

an
e-mail. I have his phone numbers and I am tempted to publish

them
here soon.

I had a fellow mail me a oboe from maine, only about 600 miles

away,
but
across the border.

Canada Customs are nowhere near as paranoid as US border nutzis.

That might be because the terrorists would most likely be traveling
from
Canada to the U.S., not the other way around. Surely you are not this
clueless?

Terrorists are now smuggling lathes? Either you're clueless or you
think US customs are. I'd be putting my money on customs - they have
to follow policy.....

Enough already. Not to to start another flame war, but the US killed
more since the WTC than were killed in the WTC, and let's not even
discuss what secret things the US govt has done to increase
instability in certain parts of the world. This whole media-centric
fearmongering causing mass paranoia and over-the-top "security" that
does very little to secure people has gone on too long and is getting
a little tired.

As for terriorists coming from Canada, that has not been shown to be
accurate, it's only a media trying to redirect focus from the real
problem - US foreign policy. Here in Canuck-ville we have a similar
dictatorship to the US. Every 5 years or so we elect a different
dictator. Given the Canadian dollar, however, even our most wealthy
can't buy a Prime Minister-ship.

James.

The fact is James, there is a threat to the U.S. and there is no threat

to
Canada.
Therefor it is reasonable that getting into the U.S. from a foriegn
country
(be you a human or a crate) requires a little more time and trouble.

It's
that simple.

JTMcC.




JTMcC.



Took three weeks.

Don't give up yet.










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On Mon, 23 Feb 2004 20:51:08 -0500, "R. Black"
wrote:



James Watt wrote:

On Mon, 23 Feb 2004 01:34:44 GMT, "JTMcC"
wrote:


"Jimbo" . wrote in message
...
JTMcC:

We simply don't have the troops to be everywhere. As for burning the
Canadian flag I think the US was only one burning the Cdn flag -
wasn't there an incident last year about it? Or was it booing the
Canadian anthem at a hockey game?


Nop that was our Frenchmen in Montreal booing the US national anthem.

Not even low class. No class.


Agreed. I recalled another event that went the other way. Then
again, with my memory.....

I didn't think we had it in us :-) Well, apparently some do.

James.

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On Sun, 22 Feb 2004 15:40:28 GMT, "JTMcC"
wrote:


"James Watt" wrote in message
.. .
On Sat, 21 Feb 2004 21:46:53 GMT, "JTMcC"
wrote:


"jtaylor" wrote in message
...

Regis wrote in message
om...
A guy named Dave Munroe of Hiawatha, Canada ripped me off. He
advertised a 7 x 10 lathe on this news group for $175. I sent the
money almost 4 weeks ago and the lathe has never showed up. He

claims
to be from Hiawatha, Ontario, Canada. He won't return my emails or my
calls. BEWARE OF THIS GUY! Scum like him screw home machinist out of
their hard earned money. If anyone know this guy please drop me an
e-mail. I have his phone numbers and I am tempted to publish them
here soon.

I had a fellow mail me a oboe from maine, only about 600 miles away,

but
across the border.

Canada Customs are nowhere near as paranoid as US border nutzis.

That might be because the terrorists would most likely be traveling from
Canada to the U.S., not the other way around. Surely you are not this
clueless?


Terrorists are now smuggling lathes? Either you're clueless or you
think US customs are. I'd be putting my money on customs - they have
to follow policy.....

Enough already. Not to to start another flame war, but the US killed
more since the WTC than were killed in the WTC, and let's not even
discuss what secret things the US govt has done to increase
instability in certain parts of the world. This whole media-centric
fearmongering causing mass paranoia and over-the-top "security" that
does very little to secure people has gone on too long and is getting
a little tired.

As for terriorists coming from Canada, that has not been shown to be
accurate, it's only a media trying to redirect focus from the real
problem - US foreign policy. Here in Canuck-ville we have a similar
dictatorship to the US. Every 5 years or so we elect a different
dictator. Given the Canadian dollar, however, even our most wealthy
can't buy a Prime Minister-ship.

James.


The fact is James, there is a threat to the U.S. and there is no threat to
Canada.


Unless you are a Canadian Soldier within range of so-called "friendly
fire"

Or a Canadian citizen walking across the street in Niagara falls when
some "county mounty" Yankee cop crashes the border chasing a fleeing
car - violating Canadian soveraignty with impunity. - and you get run
down.

US Foreigh policy is a threat to ALL - not just the US -
Therefor it is reasonable that getting into the U.S. from a foriegn country
(be you a human or a crate) requires a little more time and trouble. It's
that simple.

JTMcC.




JTMcC.



Took three weeks.

Don't give up yet.








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On Sun, 22 Feb 2004 17:26:14 -0800, "Udie" youdeetwothreethree@
victoriadotteecee.ca wrote:

I takes a month to get a small mail order parcel from Ontario to British
Columbia!


And 3 weeks from Kingsville to Waterloo.
Means I could have WALKED both ways faster.
Steve R.


"James Watt" wrote in message
.. .
On Sat, 21 Feb 2004 12:37:02 -0800, Roger Hull
wrote:

On Sat, 21 Feb 2004 12:02:26 -0800, Regis wrote
(in message ) :

A guy named Dave Munroe of Hiawatha, Canada ripped me off. He
advertised a 7 x 10 lathe on this news group for $175. I sent the
money almost 4 weeks ago and the lathe has never showed up. He claims
to be from Hiawatha, Ontario, Canada. He won't return my emails or my
calls. BEWARE OF THIS GUY! Scum like him screw home machinist out of
their hard earned money. If anyone know this guy please drop me an
e-mail. I have his phone numbers and I am tempted to publish them
here soon.
Regis

Patience, my friend. Stuff coming from Canada takes forever, it seems.
I recently had a small package take seven weeks; and that was from a

major
city, not from out in the boonies.


We have a major city?

James.



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On Sat, 21 Feb 2004 22:33:38 -0500, "Bill Darby"
wrote:


"Regis" wrote in message
. com...
A guy named Dave Munroe of Hiawatha, Canada ripped me off. He
advertised a 7 x 10 lathe on this news group for $175. I sent the
money almost 4 weeks ago and the lathe has never showed up. He claims
to be from Hiawatha, Ontario, Canada. He won't return my emails or my
calls. BEWARE OF THIS GUY! Scum like him screw home machinist out of
their hard earned money. If anyone know this guy please drop me an
e-mail. I have his phone numbers and I am tempted to publish them
here soon.
Regis



DOES NOT LOOK GOOD I picked this up on a Google search of groups. Just
sorry he is one of ours!!! Note the date 06 10 2003. If only a guy had
known!

Bill D


Paudash is a largely Native community in the Keene / Rice lake area.
South East of Peterborough. I believe the amalgamated community in
that area is now known as Hiawatha. Serpent Mounds park is part of the
"islands of the trent" first nation community, as it is also known.

Search result 1 for your query Dave Munroe

From: Radiosam )
Subject: Dave Munroe Scammer of Ontario Canada back at it!!!


View this article only
Newsgroups: rec.radio.swap, rec.radio.scanner, rec.radio.cb
Date: 2003-06-10 22:45:31 PST


(Radiosam) wrote in message
.com...
If your contacted by this guy or see a post from
" or " don't
deal with him!!! He had a low profile for a while, but he's back at
the scamming.

Most Current info is:

Dave Munroe (doubt if that's real)
220 Paudash Road (doesn't show up on Yahoo Maps)
Hiawatha, Ontario, Canada K0L-2G0 (Again, the city of Hiawatha
doesn't show on Yahoo, and this is a new city compared to his old city
of Keene)
Cell phone (yeah right) is 705-313-1518

Mail is beginning to bounce to the lower case
. My most recent email from him was dated
in mid-May in which he claimed that the mail is slow.

He currently has several ID's still active on Ebay of "leanna2000",
"-pokey-", "Quake99" and "Invest7". All have 0 feedback's but ebay
only goes back 30 days for history now. So information is skimpy.


Repost of old info, but it might help to put it into this thread.


A serious warning about Dave Munroe, Internet scammer, living in
Keene, Ontario, Canada. In addition to Internet and eBay theft, he's
now added mail fraud to the list. He sends letters of payment,
supposedly with cash payments, but there's nothing in the envelope
except the actual letter. A police officer he scammed opened one of
these in front of Postal Employees, mail fraud charges are being
filed.

If you have ordered anything and sent payment to one of these two
addresses, you've been scammed:

Dave Munroe Alternate Address:
R.R. #2 Keene 220 Paudash Road
Ontario, Canada Keene, Ontario Canada
K0L2G0 K0L2G0
(705) 295-4688 (705) 295-4612

He has also used a Peterborough address and several alias names for
eBay auction site bidding, where he "bids up" his own merchandise,
receives payment, and sends nothing. Two people so far have lost over
$100 each on eBay purchases, several others are possible victims. The
eBay site management has been notified of his aliases and activities,
but he uses falsified user information to avoid capture.

17 verified incidents of Internet and eBay auction theft are known so
far, and more possible... we're waiting for email from several more.

This guy advertises for sale or trade of computer, ham radio,
electronic, and camping gear. He NEVER sends his agreed part of
transaction, money or goods, and after the shipment arrives, he never
answers e-mails and the phone number is never answered (used to be a
BBS line he ran).

In August, he has scammed a half-dozen people for hard drives and
modems. In addition, he's recently been advertising Asus motherboards
and a Cyrix mini-tower system in non-forsale newsgroups, since
warnings have been issued in all for-sale areas.

He has used these aliases for email, auction sites, and Internet
theft:












If you are doing ANY business with someone in the Keene/Peterborough
area of Ontario, BE SURE you have good contact info with your party...
contact both work and home phones and addresses, etc. This guy seems
to have a few available phone numbers, and at least 3 mailing/shipping
addresses.

If you've been involved in a fraudulent sale with Dave Munroe, please
contact
or Rick Park at
. Complaints have been filed with the Canadian
authorities, and various Internet authorities and email providersSee
this message in context.


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Actually, postal codes with zeros do not always denote general delivery!
Mine is like that, and there are rural Green Boxes for most people. In the
case of the Green Boxes, the house address is tied to the box. The box
clusters are a few hundred feet apart. Anything sent to my house address,
goes to my nearby box. The actual box number is not part of my address.

Steve R.


"Brian Lawson" wrote in message
...
Hey Regis,

You have not stated "where" you sent the money. Hiawatha is not the
best known place in Ontario, but Canada Post would have found the
closest place with a name like that to the postal code you used.
Microsoft Streets & Trips gives three suggestions, all in the
Peterborough to Ottawa area. Do you have the actual postal code (ZIP)
for the as mailed address? For instance, I recently lived in an area
of Windsor called Forest Glade. If you had written to me with that
local colloquial name as the "city", it would not have gotten to me
unless the postal code was given too. One thing to note though, that
if any postal code in Canada has a "0" (numeral zero, not the alphabet
letter 'oh') as the second and last digit, it is a "general delivery"
type code. Mine is N0P 1C0, and means I have to actually go to the
local post office to pick up my mail, as there is no delivery service
here in this town.

Too late, but take care.

Brian Lawson,
Bothwell, Ontario.




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postings about slander could get someone involved into a lawsuit.
especially when you try to pretend to be this guy.


remove NOSPAM to reply


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On Sat, 21 Feb 2004 23:05:59 -0500, "Bill Darby"
wrote:


for your information thats not Dave Munroe
you say he's form canada? if you look at the post headers
that was an american posting that.
(slander,inpersonation is always good for a lawsuit)

there have been a few characters going around pretending to be him.
also, you say he wont respond to your emails? why would he then post
garabage like this?

look at the headers
http://saltine.741.com/nonesense.jpg
I guess some people will belive anything on the internet. *sigh*





This quote from his post will give you a little insight into the kind of
guy you are dealing with.

I am sorry about this A hole !

Bill




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From: kf4tun )
Subject: Dave Munroe is a changed man! Jesus is in my heart.
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Date: 2003-07-27 07:20:34 PST


In case you haven't guessed by now, this guy (Dave Munroe) is just
attempting to be a wise-ass, a big man. He is also really dumb, making
fun
of god and those who believe in god. So Dave, have a good time as you
set
there all alone, playing with yourself, as you write your silly
messages.
Strange way to get off, but I guess to each his own.

Jim

"Dave Munroe" wrote in message
om...
Please I have accepted Jesus and have a small bank account that I will
try make available to those I have ripped off in the past. I'm trying
to sell my house and then I'll have a few more dollars to send to the
victims of my past. Then I'll be able to get the Church of Dave
Munroe off the ground. If you would like to attend some of my
services please give me a call at 705-313-1518. Right now they are in
my living room, but soon I'll have an outside revival tent that will
hold many many people. I havn't decided yet if I'm going to handle
snakes during the services, my faith isn't that strong yet. I'm just
a baby Christian!

Dave


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That 's crap and anyone who has followed the situation since 9/11 knows all
the terrorist where in the USA legally. There has been more than enough
misinformation about Canada being a haven for terrorist but most of it is
just a lot of bull**** that just gives the ill informed someone other than
their own security services to blame.

Jimbo

"Mike Patterson" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 22 Feb 2004 11:31:34 -0500, "Jimbo" .
wrote:

JTMcC:

I think your assumption that terrorists are no threat to Canada is wrong

and
my reasons for thinking that are as follows.

Canada supplies the U.S.A. with far more oil/gas than all other countries
combined including Saudi Arabia. We also have an inter connected
hydroelectric and water grid that makes both our countries extremely
interdependent. Our mutual border includes many major bridges and

tunnels
that if they where attacked would cripple both our economies. We are

your
largest trading partner by far and that makes your security and ours a
mutual concern. Any terrorist with a brain knows what I have just said

is
true and that my friend means we all have to be vigilant, doesn't it?

You also have to take in to consideration that we have over 2000 troops

in
Afganistan fighting the war on terrorism and that means the terrorist

don't
really like us either. I personally wish we had a bigger military force

but
I'm very proud of the extremely well trained professional men and women

we
have stationed over there.

Jimbo

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While your point is taken, I have a couple of questions:

What single nation is referred to by terroristic radical Islamics as
"The Great Satan"? Answer: The USA

What do those same terrorists call Canada? Answer: "Canada", or
"layover".


Mike Patterson
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In article , Jimbo says...

That's crap and anyone who has followed the situation since 9/11 knows all
the terrorist were in the USA legally.


Well. My particular favorite story was that the INS sent one
of the hijackers his visa, after they crashed the planes.
Now that's what I call homeland security. Not.

Jim

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You would do well to sober up and figure out who it is you want to make
comments to before you go mouthing off .

Bill Darby




"Saltine" wrote in message
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On Sat, 21 Feb 2004 23:05:59 -0500, "Bill Darby"
wrote:


for your information thats not Dave Munroe
you say he's form canada? if you look at the post headers
that was an american posting that.
(slander,inpersonation is always good for a lawsuit)

there have been a few characters going around pretending to be him.
also, you say he wont respond to your emails? why would he then post
garabage like this?

look at the headers
http://saltine.741.com/nonesense.jpg
I guess some people will belive anything on the internet. *sigh*





This quote from his post will give you a little insight into the kind

of
guy you are dealing with.

I am sorry about this A hole !

Bill




Search Result 5
From: kf4tun )
Subject: Dave Munroe is a changed man! Jesus is in my

heart.
View: Complete Thread (2 articles)
Original Format
Newsgroups: rec.radio.swap
Date: 2003-07-27 07:20:34 PST


In case you haven't guessed by now, this guy (Dave Munroe) is just
attempting to be a wise-ass, a big man. He is also really dumb,

making
fun
of god and those who believe in god. So Dave, have a good time as you
set
there all alone, playing with yourself, as you write your silly
messages.
Strange way to get off, but I guess to each his own.

Jim

"Dave Munroe" wrote in message
om...
Please I have accepted Jesus and have a small bank account that I

will
try make available to those I have ripped off in the past. I'm

trying
to sell my house and then I'll have a few more dollars to send to

the
victims of my past. Then I'll be able to get the Church of Dave
Munroe off the ground. If you would like to attend some of my
services please give me a call at 705-313-1518. Right now they are

in
my living room, but soon I'll have an outside revival tent that

will
hold many many people. I havn't decided yet if I'm going to handle
snakes during the services, my faith isn't that strong yet. I'm

just
a baby Christian!

Dave



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On Tue, 24 Feb 2004 16:28:52 -0500, "Bill Darby"
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You would do well to sober up and figure out who it is you want to make
comments to before you go mouthing off .

Bill Darby




exactly.. well said Billy

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On Tue, 24 Feb 2004 16:42:49 GMT, Simon Jester
wrote:

On Tue, 24 Feb 2004 04:23:12 GMT, clare @ snyder.on .ca wrote:

I've been ripped off by Americans in the past - guess we shouldn't
deal with them either - eh???


That fine by me, I don't trust your people and I have no desire to
deal with you.

Your loss. We are only your largest trade partner and your largest
source of raw materials including oil and natural gas. If we turned
off the taps and closed the borders, we'd have no money, but you poor
fools would freeze your asses off and you'd have to walk, because your
fuel supply would dry up in about a week.

But Geargy Porgey wouldn't let that happen. If he couldn't sweet talk
our useless government into falling in line, he'd just treat us like
Iraq.

You realize 9-11 was only the second time in American History that
foreign nationals have ever attacked mainland American soil?? And
Washington at that?
That's why you have a "white house". The whitewash was required to
cover up the damage done when CANADIANS torched it in the war of 1812.
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On Mon, 23 Feb 2004 20:36:35 -0800, "Udie" youdeetwothreethree@
victoriadotteecee.ca wrote:

Actually, postal codes with zeros do not always denote general delivery!
Mine is like that, and there are rural Green Boxes for most people. In the
case of the Green Boxes, the house address is tied to the box. The box
clusters are a few hundred feet apart. Anything sent to my house address,
goes to my nearby box. The actual box number is not part of my address.

Steve R.

In the case of both rural "green boxes" and "super boxes" it is simply
because Canada Post does not consider it worth while providing door to
door delivery. A nd there are "generally" no (or very few) general
delivery boxes in the "post offices" which are now franchised outlets
in convenience stores more often than not.
Both Rural Routes and general delivery usually have the Letter Zero
Letter number letter Zero postal codes, while the urban super boxes
GENERALLY have location specific postal codes - often a separate code
for each super box. The postal code determines which package the mail
goes in, and which carrier picks it up to deliver.

This guy's postal code IS a general delivery which covers a wide area
south east of Peterborough Ontario, including the "Islands of the
Trent" first nation.


"Brian Lawson" wrote in message
.. .
Hey Regis,

You have not stated "where" you sent the money. Hiawatha is not the
best known place in Ontario, but Canada Post would have found the
closest place with a name like that to the postal code you used.
Microsoft Streets & Trips gives three suggestions, all in the
Peterborough to Ottawa area. Do you have the actual postal code (ZIP)
for the as mailed address? For instance, I recently lived in an area
of Windsor called Forest Glade. If you had written to me with that
local colloquial name as the "city", it would not have gotten to me
unless the postal code was given too. One thing to note though, that
if any postal code in Canada has a "0" (numeral zero, not the alphabet
letter 'oh') as the second and last digit, it is a "general delivery"
type code. Mine is N0P 1C0, and means I have to actually go to the
local post office to pick up my mail, as there is no delivery service
here in this town.

Too late, but take care.

Brian Lawson,
Bothwell, Ontario.




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On Wed, 25 Feb 2004 04:24:57 GMT, Simon Jester
wrote:

On Wed, 25 Feb 2004 02:51:46 GMT, clare @ snyder.on .ca wrote:

Your loss. We are only your largest trade partner and your largest
source of raw materials including oil and natural gas.


That's at the ****ing commercial level, I don't deal in that ****.
Do you have any idea what they thread is about? I didn't think so.


Yes, I sure do. It appears some poor sucker paid too much for a cheap
lathe from some crook who CLAIMS to be Canadian, and has not recieved
it yet. Might never recieve it.
Problem is, if this guy is who/what I think he is, he can pull the
same stunt from your side of the border, as his "native rights" exist
both in Canada and the US, and nailing him will be a chellenge.

This is no reason to denigrate all Canadians - a few bad apples do not
make us all crooks, any more than a philandering jack-ass of a (past)
president and a sadly misguided (present) president make all
Americans morons and diddlers.

Wake up and smell the coffee.


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On Wed, 25 Feb 2004 22:27:29 GMT, clare @ snyder.on .ca wrote:



Wake up and smell the coffee.

Unfortunately, the coffee, like the beer, is too weak to have a smell.
OK, I didn't really mean that, but couldn't resist temptation.
Gerry :-)}
London, Canada
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James,

Just a suggestion, that I heard worked brilliantly the other way that
you might consider:

A good friend of mine in Toronto produces commercial videos and he got
stiffed by a large company in Florida. He called and called etc. but
nothing, they would pay. Eventually, he got the idea to contact Canada
Customs and report the problem to the border customs officials, who
entered the complaint in their database. The next time the company
shipped goods to Canada (that shipment had nothing to do with my friend)
they were held up at the border directly as a result of my friend's
complaint. When the company got desperate enough to clear the shipment
they were advised "why" their goods were being held. Miraculously, they
discovered their payment oversight and my friend received his overdue
payment in full by Fedex... He then contacted Canada customs and
eventually the shipment was released.

If you report same to US customs/immigration, this guy may get mega
hassled the next time he tries to enter the U.S.

Maybe just the threat of this action might persuade him to get his act
together. I would suggest you send him a letter by registered mail
warning him of the action you are going to take if you don't receive
what you've paid for within say 14 days.

But if you have to follow through with you action, make very sure you
have good documentation for your payment and all your attempts to
contact him.

Good luck from a Canadian who does keep his promises.

Cheers, Peter





JTMcC wrote:
"James Watt" wrote in message
...

If I lived near there I'd go kick his butt for you. I'm from Canada,
shop online a fair bit and can't stand this crap. Did you pay via
credit card (Paypal) or such thing? If so, they will track him down
and get your money back.

Good luck.
James



Several Canadians seem to be apologetic that this guy belongs to them,
that's not right. We have plenty of American scum, as does every other
country. Don't apologize just because he comes from Canada, after all, we
have Michaeal Jackson and the likeg.
I will make a note tho, that you are willing to kick butt for us if
necessary, thanks!

JTMcC.




On 21 Feb 2004 12:02:26 -0800, (Regis) wrote:


A guy named Dave Munroe of Hiawatha, Canada ripped me off. He
advertised a 7 x 10 lathe on this news group for $175. I sent the
money almost 4 weeks ago and the lathe has never showed up. He claims
to be from Hiawatha, Ontario, Canada. He won't return my emails or my
calls. BEWARE OF THIS GUY! Scum like him screw home machinist out of
their hard earned money. If anyone know this guy please drop me an
e-mail. I have his phone numbers and I am tempted to publish them
here soon.
Regis







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On Fri, 27 Feb 2004 10:29:19 -0500, the renowned Peter R
wrote:

A good friend of mine in Toronto produces commercial videos and he got
stiffed by a large company in Florida. He called and called etc. but
nothing, they would pay. Eventually, he got the idea to contact Canada
Customs and report the problem to the border customs officials, who
entered the complaint in their database. The next time the company
shipped goods to Canada (that shipment had nothing to do with my friend)
they were held up at the border directly as a result of my friend's
complaint. When the company got desperate enough to clear the shipment
they were advised "why" their goods were being held. Miraculously, they
discovered their payment oversight and my friend received his overdue
payment in full by Fedex... He then contacted Canada customs and
eventually the shipment was released.


Hmm.. any ideas on what to do about being stiffed by a big US
publishing company? It's only $100 US.. but.. they sent me a check
that had payment stopped (they originally sent my payment to some dude
in India, and vice-versa, then asked that I return it, which I did,
then sent me the bad check!). They don't seem to care. You'd think a
company like Penton could do better. They certainly had no problem
taking *my* checks competently when I was paying them $thousands for
advertising. I've called a bunch of times, and sent the bad check back
(probably a mistake), nothing.

Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
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On Mon, 23 Feb 2004 20:44:37 -0500, "R. Black"
vaguely proposed a theory
.......and in reply I say!:

There is probably more crooks per capita in the US than in Canada. I think
more people should try to get crooks prosecuted rather than being
embarrassed about being ripped off and not doing anything.


Yep, more lawyers per capita too. Coincidence? :-)


He already said there were more crooks!


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