On Tuesday, September 29, 2015 at 4:58:55 PM UTC-4, T wrote:
On 09/29/2015 08:32 AM, Oren wrote:
On Mon, 28 Sep 2015 19:54:52 -0700 (PDT), bob haller
wrote:

bernie sanders wants to roll everyone into medicare, now thats a great idea

I sure hope you vote for him, vote as many times as you can.


I don't think Bernie is serious about running. He is just
having fun clowning around and enjoying the attention.

If he was serious, he would register as a Democrat. (It is
really easy to do, the vomiting part clears up in a week
or two).

As it stands, all votes for him are invalid. They mean
nothing, except for the symbolism. And I think that is
his point.

Did you hear where Trump called Open Borders Rubio
the RINO a "clown" on immigration? Talk about
a guy who is bought and paid for.

I had a good laugh.

When you're done laughing, explain to us this. How is the
endpoint result of Trumps
immigration plan substantially different than Rubios? Trump
wants to round up 11 mil illegals, including their citizen
children, run them through immigration court, tear their lives
apart, ultimately deport them. Then Trump says he will EXPEDITE
THEIR LEGAL RETURN BACK here. With Rubios plan, the illegals
already here would pay fines, have to go through a 10 year process
to get legal status. I see the obvious differences that the
Trump plan would cost $130 bil, tear the country apart, ruin
peoples lives. The Rubio plan would generate tax revenue and
not tear their lives apart. But at the end of the day, with either Rubio
or Trump the same people are still here. Can you explain why
Trump is right and Rubio is a clown?

On Wed, 30 Sep 2015 07:59:46 -0700, Oren wrote in


Just let the loons vote for Bernie. If nominated, he would never be
elected, unless the country it further down the tubes than I thought.

How far down the tubes is a country that elects someone like Obuma
twice?
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On Thu, 01 Oct 2015 02:57:10 -0500, CRNG
wrote:

How far down the tubes is a country that elects someone like Obuma
twice?

Way far down the tubes. Difficult to recover from if progressive
liberals vote for another socialist Democrat.

On Thu, 01 Oct 2015 12:32:45 -0700, Oren wrote in


On Thu, 01 Oct 2015 02:57:10 -0500, CRNG
wrote:

How far down the tubes is a country that elects someone like Obuma
twice?

Way far down the tubes. Difficult to recover from if progressive
liberals vote for another socialist Democrat.

I agree. It is looking to me like we have passed the "tipping" point.
The next exection will tell for sure.
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On Sun, 27 Sep 2015 11:02:17 -0700 (PDT), trader_4
wrote:

On Sunday, September 27, 2015 at 1:27:55 PM UTC-4, Ashton Crusher wrote:
You are free to believe whatever suits you.


It's not beliefs that I've cited, it's documented, readily available
well known facts on Trumps record. If anyone is operating on "beliefs"
it's guys like you and T. You believe what Trump says today as if it's
some kind of gospel, on the bizarre assumption that just because he
hasn't held office before, that makes him truthful, honest, etc.
What I've cited shows otherwise. Just the facts.

Believe what you want. I've seen nothing but nonsense posted
regarding trump.

On Sat, 26 Sep 2015 18:24:49 -0700 (PDT), Uncle Monster
wrote:

On Saturday, September 26, 2015 at 7:40:04 PM UTC-5, Ashton Crusher wrote:
On Sat, 26 Sep 2015 13:33:25 -0700 (PDT), Uncle Monster
wrote:

On Saturday, September 26, 2015 at 12:27:36 AM UTC-5, Bob F wrote:
T wrote:
On 09/25/2015 02:35 PM, Oren wrote:
If elected I will not run.

Huh. Are we starting to see a crack open up.

"If elected I will not run" means you won't run
from your duty if elected. Much better than it
your previous denials.

You know I am only joking. Maybe not completely.

Sarah P was elected, and then ran, never to finish her term.

Those of your ilk were so terrified of Sara Palin that paid operatives were sent to Alaska to attack her anyway they could such as bringing numerous frivolous ethics complaints against her in order to disrupt her job as governor and to bring financial ruin to her family. Governor Palin resigned because of the large amount of state money and resources it took to beat the legal ethics complaints in court. I was amazed at how scared the Left was of Sara Palin that they thought it necessary to do whatever they could to harm her and her family. Making fun of her special needs infant son was another nasty tactic used by the Left in an attempt to hurt her. Bob, you and your fellow Progressive Liberal Leftist Commiecrat Freaks show your true colors whenever confronted with someone who can expose you for what piles of excrement you really are. ^_^

[8~{} Uncle Discerning Monster


The left was not scared of Palin. She drips stupid.

When was the last time you were elected governor of a state.

Who cares. That I've not been elected gov changes nothing about the
stupidity that IS palin. My god, have you heard her talk??? Half the
time she is incoherent. Keep in mind, I don't disagree with every
position she has. In some cases I hold the same position. But that
doesn't change my view that she has very limited capacity for
intelligent thought. The fact that she was elected gov is hardly
compelling evidence of any great intellect ... or do you hold all
elected officials up as models of deep thought and intelligence? If
you do you are in a minority of about 2% of the population. The vast
majority of your fellow citizens hold the vast majority of politician
in contempt.

On Sun, 27 Sep 2015 11:19:40 -0700 (PDT), trader_4
wrote:

On Sunday, September 27, 2015 at 1:34:58 PM UTC-4, Ashton Crusher wrote:


Trump can't get rid of the elites. Trump is the elite of elites

Elite is your term, not mine.


All the other elites have bought
someone to run for them.

Ok, so assuming that's true, then Trump has bought himself
because clearly he's an elite. And do you really think Trump is
going to screw all his elite buddies, that he doesn't have
sympathy for their causes, etc?


Which would you rather have, your elite out
in the open taking responsibility for their actions

Trump doesn't take responsibility for his actions. When he
slandered John McCain with the despicable comment that McCain
was not a war hero, then proceeded to insult all POWs by saying
that he likes the vets that weren't POWs, what did Trump do?
Man up and apologize? No, he lied and denied saying it, said
that it was taken out of context, etc. He does similar almost
every day. He's lying and attacking the CNN reporter who a
couple days ago as part of her coverage of his speech in SC
reported that there were a lot of empty seats. There were you
can see the video yourself. Trump attacked her, CNN, and again
he's totally wrong. That's being responsible? Again, just
the facts.



or your elite
hiding behind the current and pulling the strings. If I'm going to
have one, I'll take the HONEST one who isn't hiding. You also object
that Trump has revised his positions on some things as if thinking
about something based on new data is a bad quality.

What new data emerged on immigration in the last 3 years? The
last two months? Trumps positions were very different then.
Nothing changed, except he senses that the Trumpies want to hear
him sound tough on immigration. And I've raised this question so
many times, but not one Trumpy will answer it. His current policy is
to round up 11+ mil illegals, including their US born children that
are citizens, run them through immigration courts, ruin their lives,
ultimately deporting them. And then he freely states that he will
then "expedite" their return here legally. That makes sense to you?
If so, explain it and why spending $125 bil to run people out and
then bring them right back makes sense. It's one of the stupidest
things I've ever heard, not to mention that even Trump knows it's
never going to happen. It would rip the country apart.



As the famous,
but unusually misquoted quote says.."FOOLISH consistency is the
hobgoblin of small minds." The rest of the clown car candidates
engaged in the kind of FOOLISH consistency you seem to champion.

Yeah, better to have a narcissistic megalomaniac that starts
twitter wars at 3AM, attacking and insulting anyone and everyone,
than a candidate with consistent, logical, well thought out
positions. With regard to the latter, Trump has not a single
one. The only actual policy he has is on immigration. And as
I pointed out above, how it could make any sense to a thinking
person at all, is beyond me.


I get it. You don't like Trump. And you look for anything you can
find to rationalize your dislike of him. Most of your rant is
pointless drivel. The rest is just wrong. For example, you claim
he's going to overload the courts. He's never said he plans to
overload the courts. What you don't understand, and I'm not surprised
since most people don't, is the art of negotiation. Trump is engaged
in a negotiation with the public at the moment. He's staking out
starting positions. He knows the end product of this negotiation on
the immigration issue won't be to deport 11 million people. He knows
whatever he would like to do is going to require legislation if it's
going to be effective. It's going to be a compromise. As he's said,
this is what he does, this is how business is done. You are so used
to seeing the feckless typical politician who's only goal is
reelection that you can't even recognize one who's goal is to actually
accomplish something. You think having a fully outlined reasonable
plan should be the basis to get your vote? Why? When was the last
time a politician who gave you such a plan, and who you voted for and
who was elected, implemented that plan? Lets see, wasn't it the
republicans who "had the plan" and were going to "cut the gvt"? Yet
EVERY year its bigger and bigger. And the democrats.. weren't they
the ones who "had the plan" and were going to "solve poverty"? Yet
poverty rates remain essentially unchanged and we have 50% MORE people
on food stamps then before and school graduates get progressively
stupider and stupider (which BOTH parties said they were going to
fix). And how many times have our brilliant reps said they were going
to "solve the immigration problem". How's that going? And you want
to vote for one of "those" candidates? If you don't vote Trump or
Bernie you are voting for 8 more years of the past 16 years.

On 10/3/2015 12:43 AM, Uncle Monster wrote:

I was too ill to make it to a polling place the
last time around but this time I'll crawl to to
cast a vote if I fall out of my wheelchair. Perhaps
it would be easier to fill out an absentee ballot
and mail it in? o_O

[8~{} Uncle Vote Monster


Anecdotal story, about a nursing home director who
got absentee ballots for all the residents, and
filled them in (for the residents). Of course, every
single ballot was for straight Democrat ticket.

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On 10/3/2015 1:04 AM, Uncle Monster wrote:

I think government should concentrate more on
prevention with the basic health care you ask
about in your post. I know that a lot of folks
without the money to pay will avoid seeking
medical care until they become very sick or
disabled. They wind up in an emergency room
which is the most expensive way to provide
health care. Many people have substance abuse
problems and are afraid to seek medical care
because they believe law enforcement will be
notified. That segment of the population is
a breeding ground for contagious disease. o_O

[8~{} Uncle Medical Monster


Have you considered elected office? We'll get
you a wheel chair with a cordless "bomb Iran"
button next to the motion joystick.

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Which two candidates are the most likely to re-establish a rule of law
and get rid of the elites....


Trump or Bernie. None of the others will. The others will just
settle in to business as usual.

Trump isn't a hotshot money machine whatever his politics.
Someone putting money in an index fund would've done better
than Trump according to this: http://preview.tinyurl.com/ovs5yg8
Trump did get his name seemingly everywhere though.


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On Friday, October 2, 2015 at 9:52:49 PM UTC-4, Ashton Crusher wrote:
On Sun, 27 Sep 2015 11:02:17 -0700 (PDT), trader_4
wrote:

On Sunday, September 27, 2015 at 1:27:55 PM UTC-4, Ashton Crusher wrote:
You are free to believe whatever suits you.


It's not beliefs that I've cited, it's documented, readily available
well known facts on Trumps record. If anyone is operating on "beliefs"
it's guys like you and T. You believe what Trump says today as if it's
some kind of gospel, on the bizarre assumption that just because he
hasn't held office before, that makes him truthful, honest, etc.
What I've cited shows otherwise. Just the facts.

Believe what you want. I've seen nothing but nonsense posted
regarding trump.

I've posted his many flip-flops on party, how he spent most of the
decade of 2000 registered as a Democrat. I've posted how his
immigrations policy was 180 deg opposite what it is today just
3 years ago and even 2 months ago. I've posted how it makes no sense
to round up 11 mil illegals at a cost of $120 bil, deport them
and then "EXPEDITE" their legal return back here, which is his
latest position. I've posted
that he has obvious mental issues, and doesn't have the maturity
to be president, unless you want a president who insults war
heroes and POWs, starts twitter wars at 3AM with anybody who
says anything negative about him, announces boycotts of Fox and
then reverses 3 days later, etc. There sure is a lot of nonsense
and it's all coming from one place: Trump.

YOU have posted nothing factual, and now you have the gall to
call what's factual, nonsense? You sound like a low
information voter that isn't interested in the truth,
just the loud, rabble rousing Trump soundbite of the day.

And you can now add to his flip-flops his position on the USA
giving refuge to some of the refugees fleeing Syria. Just a week
ago he said, yes, it's the humanitarian thing to do. Now he
says that if he's elected, he's sending them all back.

Just the facts.

On Saturday, October 3, 2015 at 6:42:55 AM UTC-5, Stormin Mormon wrote:
On 10/3/2015 1:04 AM, Uncle Monster wrote:

I think government should concentrate more on
prevention with the basic health care you ask
about in your post. I know that a lot of folks
without the money to pay will avoid seeking
medical care until they become very sick or
disabled. They wind up in an emergency room
which is the most expensive way to provide
health care. Many people have substance abuse
problems and are afraid to seek medical care
because they believe law enforcement will be
notified. That segment of the population is
a breeding ground for contagious disease. o_O

[8~{} Uncle Medical Monster


Have you considered elected office? We'll get
you a wheel chair with a cordless "bomb Iran"
button next to the motion joystick.
-
.

I'm working on standing on my own two feet. I have a new brace coming Tuesday that is the size that will fit my right knee. The 2X brace I got last month is a bit too small for my right knee but fits my left. The 3X size brace I have on the way for my right will allow me to get up in my walker and start rehabbing myself. I'm fed up with laying around and being frustrated that I can't do anything. The damage done to my lower legs from venous stasis is healing and if it heals, I may be able to convince the orthopedic surgeon to install some new knee joints. I won't be break dancing but I'll be able to walk. ^_^

[8~{} Uncle Gimpy Monster

On Saturday, October 3, 2015 at 7:15:54 AM UTC-5, trader_4 wrote:
On Friday, October 2, 2015 at 9:52:49 PM UTC-4, Ashton Crusher wrote:
On Sun, 27 Sep 2015 11:02:17 -0700 (PDT), trader_4
wrote:

On Sunday, September 27, 2015 at 1:27:55 PM UTC-4, Ashton Crusher wrote:
You are free to believe whatever suits you.


It's not beliefs that I've cited, it's documented, readily available
well known facts on Trumps record. If anyone is operating on "beliefs"
it's guys like you and T. You believe what Trump says today as if it's
some kind of gospel, on the bizarre assumption that just because he
hasn't held office before, that makes him truthful, honest, etc.
What I've cited shows otherwise. Just the facts.

Believe what you want. I've seen nothing but nonsense posted
regarding trump.

I've posted his many flip-flops on party, how he spent most of the
decade of 2000 registered as a Democrat. I've posted how his
immigrations policy was 180 deg opposite what it is today just
3 years ago and even 2 months ago. I've posted how it makes no sense
to round up 11 mil illegals at a cost of $120 bil, deport them
and then "EXPEDITE" their legal return back here, which is his
latest position. I've posted
that he has obvious mental issues, and doesn't have the maturity
to be president, unless you want a president who insults war
heroes and POWs, starts twitter wars at 3AM with anybody who
says anything negative about him, announces boycotts of Fox and
then reverses 3 days later, etc. There sure is a lot of nonsense
and it's all coming from one place: Trump.

YOU have posted nothing factual, and now you have the gall to
call what's factual, nonsense? You sound like a low
information voter that isn't interested in the truth,
just the loud, rabble rousing Trump soundbite of the day.

And you can now add to his flip-flops his position on the USA
giving refuge to some of the refugees fleeing Syria. Just a week
ago he said, yes, it's the humanitarian thing to do. Now he
says that if he's elected, he's sending them all back.

Just the facts.

Trump would probably be successful dealing with the Islamofascists since he has experience dealing with organized crime. He'd never be able to build anything in New York or New Jersey without dealing with The Mob. ^_^

http://tinyurl.com/praw4zd

http://tinyurl.com/7th7qks

http://thesmokinggun.com/documents/c...taluppi-092157

[8~{} Uncle Mob Monster

On 10/3/2015 8:36 AM, Uncle Monster wrote:
Have you considered elected office? We'll get
you a wheel chair with a cordless "bomb Iran"
button next to the motion joystick.
-
.

I'm working on standing on my own two feet. I have a new brace coming Tuesday that is the size that will fit my right knee. The 2X brace I got last month is a bit too small for my right knee but fits my left. The 3X size brace I have on the way for my right will allow me to get up in my walker and start rehabbing myself. I'm fed up with laying around and being frustrated that I can't do anything. The damage done to my lower legs from venous stasis is healing and if it heals, I may be able to convince the orthopedic surgeon to install some new knee joints. I won't be break dancing but I'll be able to walk. ^_^

[8~{} Uncle Gimpy Monster


Best wishes on your recovery. I may be in South
Carolina next week for a business trip. Should I
wave hi from there?

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learn more about Jesus
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On Saturday, October 3, 2015 at 9:03:55 AM UTC-5, Stormin Mormon wrote:
On 10/3/2015 8:36 AM, Uncle Monster wrote:
Have you considered elected office? We'll get
you a wheel chair with a cordless "bomb Iran"
button next to the motion joystick.
-
.

I'm working on standing on my own two feet. I have a new brace coming Tuesday that is the size that will fit my right knee. The 2X brace I got last month is a bit too small for my right knee but fits my left. The 3X size brace I have on the way for my right will allow me to get up in my walker and start rehabbing myself. I'm fed up with laying around and being frustrated that I can't do anything. The damage done to my lower legs from venous stasis is healing and if it heals, I may be able to convince the orthopedic surgeon to install some new knee joints. I won't be break dancing but I'll be able to walk. ^_^

[8~{} Uncle Gimpy Monster


Best wishes on your recovery. I may be in South
Carolina next week for a business trip. Should I
wave hi from there?
-
.
Of course you can send me an Internet wave. Thanks for the best wishes. I have got to get back on my fraking feet because being crippled sux! o_O

[8~{} Uncle Angry Monster

On 10/3/2015 12:32 PM, Uncle Monster wrote:
On Saturday, October 3, 2015 at 9:03:55 AM UTC-5, Stormin Mormon wrote:
Best wishes on your recovery. I may be in South
Carolina next week for a business trip. Should I
wave hi from there?
-
.
Of course you can send me an Internet wave. Thanks
for the best wishes. I have got to get back on my
fraking feet because being crippled sux! o_O

[8~{} Uncle Angry Monster


I've not enjoyed the couple times I've been
out sick. Being in a nursing home has to be
ever so much more so.

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On Saturday, October 3, 2015 at 2:46:07 PM UTC-5, Stormin Mormon wrote:
On 10/3/2015 12:32 PM, Uncle Monster wrote:
On Saturday, October 3, 2015 at 9:03:55 AM UTC-5, Stormin Mormon wrote:
Best wishes on your recovery. I may be in South
Carolina next week for a business trip. Should I
wave hi from there?
-
.
Of course you can send me an Internet wave. Thanks
for the best wishes. I have got to get back on my
fraking feet because being crippled sux! o_O

[8~{} Uncle Angry Monster


I've not enjoyed the couple times I've been
out sick. Being in a nursing home has to be
ever so much more so.
-
.

I was getting home care until my leg got infected, again. The staff here are wonderful and the food is good. I'm getting the medical care I need and hope to get back on my feet as soon as I can. Chromie, my cute little Chromebook keeps me from going completely bonkers but I still want to get home to all my computer toys. ^_^

[8~{} Uncle Bonkers Monster

"Ashton Crusher" wrote in message

stuff snipped

And how many times have our brilliant reps said they were going
to "solve the immigration problem". How's that going? And you want
to vote for one of "those" candidates? If you don't vote Trump or
Bernie you are voting for 8 more years of the past 16 years.

The rot began to set in a lot longer than 16 years ago. (-:

It's very clear that the candidates gaining traction now are outside of that
system. Trump's doing exactly what you said: Setting up preliminary
positions as part of a long-term negotiation. I don't think any of his
competitors have figured out what he's up to and won't be able to match him
when push comes to shove. Almost every article I read about him talks about
how much more polished he has become in the few months he's been
campaigning.

The most accurate part of your reply was describing how someone with a book
of actual policies and potential solutions wouldn't stand a chance on the
campaign trail. Sad but true.

Essentially it means critiquing someone for not have solid policy positions
at the moment is rather pointless. Not too many care outside of the
politically aware - and that segment of society seems to get smaller each
year. I am astounded by the number of people who can't name more than two
Republican candidates, etc. They just don't care. Trump's got to reach
those people and turn them into voters and if he can do that, both the R's
and D's have worries.

But that could be a very hard slog.

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On Sun, 04 Oct 2015 00:41:27 -0500, Robert Green
wrote:


Essentially it means critiquing someone for not have solid policy
positions
at the moment is rather pointless. Not too many care outside of the
politically aware - and that segment of society seems to get smaller each
year. I am astounded by the number of people who can't name more than
two
Republican candidates, etc. They just don't care. Trump's got to reach
those people and turn them into voters and if he can do that, both the
R's
and D's have worries.

But that could be a very hard slog.

I think a fair number figure it's beyond their control. My home
state
has maybe a million and a half people with a late primary. Nebraska with
its
five electoral votes will go to the Republican nominee. Candidates don't
waste
their time here.
I could write a check to whoever. That would be about it. What can
someone
with a large family and a mountain of bills do?
There's an article in the Washington Times by Robert Merry. He claims
the winnowing process has changed. Not a single vote has been cast but
the process has begun. He says the cable companies plus the pollsters
are running the show.


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On Sunday, October 4, 2015 at 9:00:41 AM UTC-4, Dean Hoffman wrote:

There's an article in the Washington Times by Robert Merry. He claims
the winnowing process has changed. Not a single vote has been cast but
the process has begun. He says the cable companies plus the pollsters
are running the show.


How is this different than the winnowing process in any other
past primaries? It's always started long before the first primary.
What is different here is that there were 16 GOP candidates, an unprecedented
number, so what does anyone expect? That somehow they are all going
to make it to January?

On 10/3/2015 9:25 PM, Uncle Monster wrote:
On Saturday, October 3, 2015 at 2:46:07 PM UTC-5, Stormin Mormon wrote:
I've not enjoyed the couple times I've been
out sick. Being in a nursing home has to be
ever so much more so.
-
.

I was getting home care until my leg got infected,
again. The staff here are wonderful and the food is
good. I'm getting the medical care I need and hope
to get back on my feet as soon as I can. Chromie, my
cute little Chromebook keeps me from going completely
bonkers but I still want to get home to all my
computer toys. ^_^

[8~{} Uncle Bonkers Monster


This might not be of much interest, but.... one friend
of mine, his wife was in hospital for a leg infection.
She's Roman Catholic. Anyhow, another fellow who is a
Mormon Priest offered her a blessing. And the infection
cleared after that. Husband had glanced at the hospital
chart, they were considering amputation. Do you have
Mormons there?

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Christopher A. Young
learn more about Jesus
.. www.lds.org
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On Sunday, October 4, 2015 at 8:10:54 AM UTC-5, Stormin Mormon wrote:
On 10/3/2015 9:25 PM, Uncle Monster wrote:
On Saturday, October 3, 2015 at 2:46:07 PM UTC-5, Stormin Mormon wrote:
I've not enjoyed the couple times I've been
out sick. Being in a nursing home has to be
ever so much more so.
-

I was getting home care until my leg got infected,
again. The staff here are wonderful and the food is
good. I'm getting the medical care I need and hope
to get back on my feet as soon as I can. Chromie, my
cute little Chromebook keeps me from going completely
bonkers but I still want to get home to all my
computer toys. ^_^

[8~{} Uncle Bonkers Monster


This might not be of much interest, but.... one friend
of mine, his wife was in hospital for a leg infection.
She's Roman Catholic. Anyhow, another fellow who is a
Mormon Priest offered her a blessing. And the infection
cleared after that. Husband had glanced at the hospital
chart, they were considering amputation. Do you have
Mormons there?
-
.

I have no idea but I'd be very respectful of any minister and thank him/her/it for thinking of me and giving me a blessing. I spent 36 days on IV antibiotics last year and now get a small dose in pill form everyday. The wound care nurse took a sample for a culture a week ago and I haven't heard the results. She and the doctor wanted to make sure I didn't have some weird infection. My leg is healing slowly but noticeably. The lymph nodes in my groin were once the size of golf balls but now there is no swelling at all. I suppose it means I beat the infection and all the cooties are gone. ^_^

[8~{} Uncle Cootie Monster

On Sat, 03 Oct 2015 06:48:57 -0500, "Dean Hoffman"
wrote:

Trump did get his name seemingly everywhere though.

.... he licenses his name on many products, from steaks to mattresses.

Wait until he builds the Trump Fence and has Mexico pay it.

On Sunday, October 4, 2015 at 12:15:16 PM UTC-4, Oren wrote:
On Sat, 03 Oct 2015 06:48:57 -0500, "Dean Hoffman"
wrote:

Trump did get his name seemingly everywhere though.

... he licenses his name on many products, from steaks to mattresses.

Wait until he builds the Trump Fence and has Mexico pay it.

Another interesting aspect to that, Trump is at war with Forbes
or Fortune, forget which, complaining because they put his net worth
at $4.5 bil, not $10 bil. While yapping about that, Trump said they fail
to fairly value the Trump brand. Translation, he's really
closer to the $4.5 bil, the other $5.5 bil is his inflated estimate
of the value of his name. I know what it's worth to you and I....

As to making Mexico pay for the fence, deporting 11 mil illegals and
all the other crap, according to Ashton, it's just Trump s negotiating and
Trump never intends to actually do it. Isn't that exactly what all
the "typical politicians" that the Trumpies denounce do? When the
other "politicians" don't do what they say, then it's horrible.
But Trump can do it and it's just peachy keen. Somehow I don't think
most Trumpies feel that way.

On Sun, 4 Oct 2015 09:31:36 -0700 (PDT), trader_4
wrote:

On Sunday, October 4, 2015 at 12:15:16 PM UTC-4, Oren wrote:
On Sat, 03 Oct 2015 06:48:57 -0500, "Dean Hoffman"
wrote:

Trump did get his name seemingly everywhere though.

... he licenses his name on many products, from steaks to mattresses.

Wait until he builds the Trump Fence and has Mexico pay it.

Another interesting aspect to that, Trump is at war with Forbes
or Fortune, forget which, complaining because they put his net worth
at $4.5 bil, not $10 bil. While yapping about that, Trump said they fail
to fairly value the Trump brand. Translation, he's really
closer to the $4.5 bil, the other $5.5 bil is his inflated estimate
of the value of his name. I know what it's worth to you and I....


It means squat to us.

As to making Mexico pay for the fence, deporting 11 mil illegals and
all the other crap, according to Ashton, it's just Trump s negotiating and
Trump never intends to actually do it. Isn't that exactly what all
the "typical politicians" that the Trumpies denounce do? When the
other "politicians" don't do what they say, then it's horrible.
But Trump can do it and it's just peachy keen. Somehow I don't think
most Trumpies feel that way.

Trump, by his own rhetoric is not familiar with immigration law and
courts. Immigration courts are very much under funded, under staffed
and not capable of dealing with the problems in a timely manner. It
takes years to go through immigration courts. Just look at how the VA
handles case loads. The VA has even destroyed mountains of records,
trying to look more efficient.

Maybe Trump will use the 95 million unemployed to escort the 11
million back to Mexico but they have to transverse the legal system
via the immigration courts?!

On Sunday, October 4, 2015 at 12:45:44 PM UTC-4, Oren wrote:
On Sun, 4 Oct 2015 09:31:36 -0700 (PDT), trader_4
wrote:

On Sunday, October 4, 2015 at 12:15:16 PM UTC-4, Oren wrote:
On Sat, 03 Oct 2015 06:48:57 -0500, "Dean Hoffman"
wrote:

Trump did get his name seemingly everywhere though.

... he licenses his name on many products, from steaks to mattresses.

Wait until he builds the Trump Fence and has Mexico pay it.

Another interesting aspect to that, Trump is at war with Forbes
or Fortune, forget which, complaining because they put his net worth
at $4.5 bil, not $10 bil. While yapping about that, Trump said they fail
to fairly value the Trump brand. Translation, he's really
closer to the $4.5 bil, the other $5.5 bil is his inflated estimate
of the value of his name. I know what it's worth to you and I....


It means squat to us.

As to making Mexico pay for the fence, deporting 11 mil illegals and
all the other crap, according to Ashton, it's just Trump s negotiating and
Trump never intends to actually do it. Isn't that exactly what all
the "typical politicians" that the Trumpies denounce do? When the
other "politicians" don't do what they say, then it's horrible.
But Trump can do it and it's just peachy keen. Somehow I don't think
most Trumpies feel that way.

Trump, by his own rhetoric is not familiar with immigration law and
courts. Immigration courts are very much under funded, under staffed
and not capable of dealing with the problems in a timely manner. It
takes years to go through immigration courts. Just look at how the VA
handles case loads. The VA has even destroyed mountains of records,
trying to look more efficient.

Maybe Trump will use the 95 million unemployed to escort the 11
million back to Mexico but they have to transverse the legal system
via the immigration courts?!

I agree with your observations. My main point was if you look at
what Ashton posted, he's saying we don't understand Trump, that
Trump doesn't intend to deport those illegals at all. It's just
bluster that's part of "negotiating". What I don't understand is
when a "typical politician" says one thing and can't deliver,
never mind doing it deliberately, they are spat on by the Trumpies.
It's one of the things that drives them nuts. Yet according
to Ashton, it's perfectly cool for Trump to deliberately promise
things he knows he can't deliver. Go figure.

On Sun, 4 Oct 2015 10:03:01 -0700 (PDT), trader_4
wrote:

On Sunday, October 4, 2015 at 12:45:44 PM UTC-4, Oren wrote:
On Sun, 4 Oct 2015 09:31:36 -0700 (PDT), trader_4
wrote:

On Sunday, October 4, 2015 at 12:15:16 PM UTC-4, Oren wrote:
On Sat, 03 Oct 2015 06:48:57 -0500, "Dean Hoffman"
wrote:

Trump did get his name seemingly everywhere though.

... he licenses his name on many products, from steaks to mattresses.

Wait until he builds the Trump Fence and has Mexico pay it.

Another interesting aspect to that, Trump is at war with Forbes
or Fortune, forget which, complaining because they put his net worth
at $4.5 bil, not $10 bil. While yapping about that, Trump said they fail
to fairly value the Trump brand. Translation, he's really
closer to the $4.5 bil, the other $5.5 bil is his inflated estimate
of the value of his name. I know what it's worth to you and I....


It means squat to us.

As to making Mexico pay for the fence, deporting 11 mil illegals and
all the other crap, according to Ashton, it's just Trump s negotiating and
Trump never intends to actually do it. Isn't that exactly what all
the "typical politicians" that the Trumpies denounce do? When the
other "politicians" don't do what they say, then it's horrible.
But Trump can do it and it's just peachy keen. Somehow I don't think
most Trumpies feel that way.

Trump, by his own rhetoric is not familiar with immigration law and
courts. Immigration courts are very much under funded, under staffed
and not capable of dealing with the problems in a timely manner. It
takes years to go through immigration courts. Just look at how the VA
handles case loads. The VA has even destroyed mountains of records,
trying to look more efficient.

Maybe Trump will use the 95 million unemployed to escort the 11
million back to Mexico but they have to transverse the legal system
via the immigration courts?!

I agree with your observations. My main point was if you look at
what Ashton posted, he's saying we don't understand Trump, that
Trump doesn't intend to deport those illegals at all. It's just
bluster that's part of "negotiating". What I don't understand is
when a "typical politician" says one thing and can't deliver,
never mind doing it deliberately, they are spat on by the Trumpies.
It's one of the things that drives them nuts. Yet according
to Ashton, it's perfectly cool for Trump to deliberately promise
things he knows he can't deliver. Go figure.

Even the OP, "T" (Todd) is pushing for Trump. Yet, they do not see the
fallacy in his policies or verbiage. Todd and Ashton like what they
hear. Maybe they like it when he attacks others, too.

Trump _has not_ persuaded me yet. The first three letters of Convince
-- are "CON". G

On Sunday, October 4, 2015 at 1:17:30 PM UTC-4, Oren wrote:
On Sun, 4 Oct 2015 10:03:01 -0700 (PDT), trader_4
wrote:

On Sunday, October 4, 2015 at 12:45:44 PM UTC-4, Oren wrote:
On Sun, 4 Oct 2015 09:31:36 -0700 (PDT), trader_4
wrote:

On Sunday, October 4, 2015 at 12:15:16 PM UTC-4, Oren wrote:
On Sat, 03 Oct 2015 06:48:57 -0500, "Dean Hoffman"
wrote:

Trump did get his name seemingly everywhere though.

... he licenses his name on many products, from steaks to mattresses.

Wait until he builds the Trump Fence and has Mexico pay it.

Another interesting aspect to that, Trump is at war with Forbes
or Fortune, forget which, complaining because they put his net worth
at $4.5 bil, not $10 bil. While yapping about that, Trump said they fail
to fairly value the Trump brand. Translation, he's really
closer to the $4.5 bil, the other $5.5 bil is his inflated estimate
of the value of his name. I know what it's worth to you and I....


It means squat to us.

As to making Mexico pay for the fence, deporting 11 mil illegals and
all the other crap, according to Ashton, it's just Trump s negotiating and
Trump never intends to actually do it. Isn't that exactly what all
the "typical politicians" that the Trumpies denounce do? When the
other "politicians" don't do what they say, then it's horrible.
But Trump can do it and it's just peachy keen. Somehow I don't think
most Trumpies feel that way.

Trump, by his own rhetoric is not familiar with immigration law and
courts. Immigration courts are very much under funded, under staffed
and not capable of dealing with the problems in a timely manner. It
takes years to go through immigration courts. Just look at how the VA
handles case loads. The VA has even destroyed mountains of records,
trying to look more efficient.

Maybe Trump will use the 95 million unemployed to escort the 11
million back to Mexico but they have to transverse the legal system
via the immigration courts?!

I agree with your observations. My main point was if you look at
what Ashton posted, he's saying we don't understand Trump, that
Trump doesn't intend to deport those illegals at all. It's just
bluster that's part of "negotiating". What I don't understand is
when a "typical politician" says one thing and can't deliver,
never mind doing it deliberately, they are spat on by the Trumpies.
It's one of the things that drives them nuts. Yet according
to Ashton, it's perfectly cool for Trump to deliberately promise
things he knows he can't deliver. Go figure.

Even the OP, "T" (Todd) is pushing for Trump. Yet, they do not see the
fallacy in his policies or verbiage. Todd and Ashton like what they
hear. Maybe they like it when he attacks others, too.

Trump _has not_ persuaded me yet. The first three letters of Convince
-- are "CON". G

Looks like Kevin McCarthy is going down in flames big time. I said
might be better to wait to see who replaces Boehner before rejoicing.
I was no Boehner fan, but I have some sympathy for him. His job was
like herding cats. And it didn't take more than a few days for
McCarthy to run in the ditch. I'm sure you heard the dumb soundbite,
where his remarks on the Benghazi investigation sounded like he was
working for Hillary. I also heard him say that the GOP has accomplished
some things, "they brought the deficit way down". Say what? It's the
libs that want to lie and use 2009, the one horrific, extraordinary
year, where the deficit jumped to $1.4 tril as the new baseline.
If you're going to use that fake, phony measuring stick, you might
as well be a lib. By any reasonable measure, the current $450 bil
deficit 6 1/2 years into a "recovery", is a disaster. The deficit
in 2007 was just $160 bil and had been declining. THAT should be
the metric.

"Dean Hoffman" wrote in message
news
On Sun, 04 Oct 2015 00:41:27 -0500, Robert Green
wrote:


Essentially it means critiquing someone for not have solid policy
positions
at the moment is rather pointless. Not too many care outside of the
politically aware - and that segment of society seems to get smaller
each
year. I am astounded by the number of people who can't name more than
two
Republican candidates, etc. They just don't care. Trump's got to reach
those people and turn them into voters and if he can do that, both the
R's
and D's have worries.

But that could be a very hard slog.

I think a fair number figure it's beyond their control. My home
state
has maybe a million and a half people with a late primary. Nebraska with
its
five electoral votes will go to the Republican nominee. Candidates don't
waste
their time here.
I could write a check to whoever. That would be about it. What can
someone
with a large family and a mountain of bills do?
There's an article in the Washington Times by Robert Merry. He claims
the winnowing process has changed. Not a single vote has been cast but
the process has begun. He says the cable companies plus the pollsters
are running the show.

Which is a plausible reason for Donald's traction so far. He's swimming in
a pond he knows better than the other candidates. Success in that pond is
measured by Nielsen ratings so he's really got an advantage from his TV
experience.

What's fascinating to me is how much things have changed with the changing
campaign finance laws. Now the Republican Party chairman has very
diminished influence over who reaches the nomination. Or what happens in
the circus leading up to the nomination. Thinking about Celebrity
Apprentice it's easy to see that Trump was destined to be the ringleader of
that circus.

latest national telephone survey shows that 58% of Likely Republican
Voters think Trump is likely to end up as their party's nominee for
president in 2016.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/publ...6/trump_change

--
Bobby G.

On 10/4/2015 11:33 AM, Uncle Monster wrote:
On Sunday, October 4, 2015 at 8:10:54 AM UTC-5, Stormin Mormon wrote:
This might not be of much interest, but.... one friend
of mine, his wife was in hospital for a leg infection.
She's Roman Catholic. Anyhow, another fellow who is a
Mormon Priest offered her a blessing. And the infection
cleared after that. Husband had glanced at the hospital
chart, they were considering amputation. Do you have
Mormons there?
-
.

I have no idea but I'd be very respectful of any minister and thank him/her/it for thinking of me and giving me a blessing. I spent 36 days on IV antibiotics last year and now get a small dose in pill form everyday. The wound care nurse took a sample for a culture a week ago and I haven't heard the results. She and the doctor wanted to make sure I didn't have some weird infection. My leg is healing slowly but noticeably. The lymph nodes in my groin were once the size of golf balls but now there is no swelling at all. I suppose it means I beat the infection and all the cooties are gone. ^_^

[8~{} Uncle Cootie Monster


My return email is working (though I don't check
it very often). If you trust me enough to send
contact info, I'll notify some folks in your area,
see if I can get someone to you.

https://www.lds.org/manual/family-gu...sings?lang=eng

Here is some information. Hope that's of some
help.


..
Christopher A. Young
learn more about Jesus
.. www.lds.org
..
..

On Monday, October 5, 2015 at 6:56:38 AM UTC-5, Stormin Mormon wrote:
On 10/4/2015 11:33 AM, Uncle Monster wrote:
On Sunday, October 4, 2015 at 8:10:54 AM UTC-5, Stormin Mormon wrote:
This might not be of much interest, but.... one friend
of mine, his wife was in hospital for a leg infection.
She's Roman Catholic. Anyhow, another fellow who is a
Mormon Priest offered her a blessing. And the infection
cleared after that. Husband had glanced at the hospital
chart, they were considering amputation. Do you have
Mormons there?
-
.

I have no idea but I'd be very respectful of any minister and thank him/her/it for thinking of me and giving me a blessing. I spent 36 days on IV antibiotics last year and now get a small dose in pill form everyday. The wound care nurse took a sample for a culture a week ago and I haven't heard the results. She and the doctor wanted to make sure I didn't have some weird infection. My leg is healing slowly but noticeably. The lymph nodes in my groin were once the size of golf balls but now there is no swelling at all.. I suppose it means I beat the infection and all the cooties are gone. ^_^

[8~{} Uncle Cootie Monster


My return email is working (though I don't check
it very often). If you trust me enough to send
contact info, I'll notify some folks in your area,
see if I can get someone to you.

https://www.lds.org/manual/family-gu...sings?lang=eng

Here is some information. Hope that's of some
help.

I appreciate the concern but I've had visits from ministers in the hospital who minister churches I've helped out. I don't share their faith, I helped them because they're nice people who give what little they have to help others. Those mega churches are the only ones I never help because the folks there are a bit too snooty for me. Thanks for your concern but I don't seek out religious support and I'm never disrespectful to them if they visit. A local church group came through a while back with a little bag of goodies for everyone. It wasn't much but it was greatly appreciated. ^_^

[8~{} Uncle Goodies Monster

On Monday, October 5, 2015 at 9:52:31 AM UTC-4, Uncle Monster wrote:


I appreciate the concern but I've had visits from ministers in the hospital who minister churches I've helped out. I don't share their faith, I helped them because they're nice people who give what little they have to help others. Those mega churches are the only ones I never help because the folks there are a bit too snooty for me. Thanks for your concern but I don't seek out religious support and I'm never disrespectful to them if they visit. A local church group came through a while back with a little bag of goodies for everyone. It wasn't much but it was greatly appreciated. ^_^

[8~{} Uncle Goodies Monster

Hope you have a speedy recovery. I guess having the internet available
is a big plus these days in that situation. Not only for entertainment,
but also you can do some research if you have any treatment related
questions.

On Monday, October 5, 2015 at 9:09:39 AM UTC-5, trader_4 wrote:
On Monday, October 5, 2015 at 9:52:31 AM UTC-4, Uncle Monster wrote:


I appreciate the concern but I've had visits from ministers in the hospital who minister churches I've helped out. I don't share their faith, I helped them because they're nice people who give what little they have to help others. Those mega churches are the only ones I never help because the folks there are a bit too snooty for me. Thanks for your concern but I don't seek out religious support and I'm never disrespectful to them if they visit. A local church group came through a while back with a little bag of goodies for everyone. It wasn't much but it was greatly appreciated. ^_^

[8~{} Uncle Goodies Monster

Hope you have a speedy recovery. I guess having the internet available
is a big plus these days in that situation. Not only for entertainment,
but also you can do some research if you have any treatment related
questions.

Thanks for the good wishes. Chromie, my cute little 3 lb Chromebook is easy for me to handle with my fracked up shoulders. I would go completely bonkers if I didn't have a way to get on The Internet to lookup WTF medication the nursing staff is giving me. I Email my friends and enemas, pay my bills, do online banking, I renewed my drivers license, watch TV/movies and fool around on Usenet. I'd recommend one of these 11.6 inch 3 lb Chromebooks to anyone who's going into a hospital or nursing home. I have the small laptop bag that fits this little Chromebook and it has several zipper compartments room for my wallet, keys, eyeglasses, cellphone, chargers, mouse, earphones, other accessories and some paperwork. I grab the bag when I must leave the house for the hospital because it contains everything I need to function. I bought the refurbished Chromebook from "woot.com" and the laptop bag from Amazon. Everything including both wired and Bluetooth headphones, wired and cordless mouse, USB light and 32Gb micro SD memory card with adapters for SD and USB, cost under $200. I think it's a real bargain for the quality of life improvement it provides. ^_^

[8~{} Uncle Bonkers Monster

On 10/5/2015 9:52 AM, Uncle Monster wrote:
On Monday, October 5, 2015 at 6:56:38 AM UTC-5, Stormin Mormon wrote:
My return email is working (though I don't check
it very often). If you trust me enough to send
contact info, I'll notify some folks in your area,
see if I can get someone to you.

https://www.lds.org/manual/family-gu...sings?lang=eng

Here is some information. Hope that's of some
help.

I appreciate the concern but I've had visits from
ministers in the hospital who minister churches I've
helped out. I don't share their faith, I helped them
because they're nice people who give what little they
have to help others. Those mega churches are the only
ones I never help because the folks there are a bit
too snooty for me. Thanks for your concern but I don't
seek out religious support and I'm never disrespectful
to them if they visit. A local church group came through
a while back with a little bag of goodies for everyone.
it wasn't much but it was greatly appreciated. ^_^

[8~{} Uncle Goodies Monster


At the risk of sounding a bit over the top pompous,
I do believe there is great difference between LDS
and other blessings. Ours work, because we have the
priesthood.

Did I sound pompous? Hope not.

-
..
Christopher A. Young
learn more about Jesus
.. www.lds.org
..
..

On Sat, 3 Oct 2015 05:15:41 -0700 (PDT), trader_4
wrote:

On Friday, October 2, 2015 at 9:52:49 PM UTC-4, Ashton Crusher wrote:
On Sun, 27 Sep 2015 11:02:17 -0700 (PDT), trader_4
wrote:

On Sunday, September 27, 2015 at 1:27:55 PM UTC-4, Ashton Crusher wrote:
You are free to believe whatever suits you.


It's not beliefs that I've cited, it's documented, readily available
well known facts on Trumps record. If anyone is operating on "beliefs"
it's guys like you and T. You believe what Trump says today as if it's
some kind of gospel, on the bizarre assumption that just because he
hasn't held office before, that makes him truthful, honest, etc.
What I've cited shows otherwise. Just the facts.

Believe what you want. I've seen nothing but nonsense posted
regarding trump.

I've posted his many flip-flops on party, how he spent most of the
decade of 2000 registered as a Democrat. I've posted how his
immigrations policy was 180 deg opposite what it is today just
3 years ago and even 2 months ago. I've posted how it makes no sense
to round up 11 mil illegals at a cost of $120 bil, deport them
and then "EXPEDITE" their legal return back here, which is his
latest position. I've posted
that he has obvious mental issues, and doesn't have the maturity
to be president, unless you want a president who insults war
heroes and POWs, starts twitter wars at 3AM with anybody who
says anything negative about him, announces boycotts of Fox and
then reverses 3 days later, etc. There sure is a lot of nonsense
and it's all coming from one place: Trump.

YOU have posted nothing factual, and now you have the gall to
call what's factual, nonsense? You sound like a low
information voter that isn't interested in the truth,
just the loud, rabble rousing Trump soundbite of the day.

And you can now add to his flip-flops his position on the USA
giving refuge to some of the refugees fleeing Syria. Just a week
ago he said, yes, it's the humanitarian thing to do. Now he
says that if he's elected, he's sending them all back.

Just the facts.

Your problem is that you keep focusing on the meaningless. None of
that crap matters in determining who will make the best president.
It's all eyewash for what I would call "low information" voters but my
meaning is different than yours. A low information voter is one who
thinks the puffery candidates say while running means much of
anything. All that matters is WHAT HAVE THEY DONE. Trump, unlike
most of them, HAS negotiated BIG deals ONE ON ONE. Trump, unlike most
of them HAS been a SUCCESSFUL businessman for decades. Trump, UNLike
the others isn't owned by anyone. Trump, unlike ANY of the others is
willing to RAISE taxes on fat cats who have unwarranted tax loopholes.
What have the others DONE? For the most part, all any of them can
point to is that they SOLD themselves to other people and groups in
exchange for money. Their other main "accomplishment" is they got
elected to office. Which of them has WRITTEN, SPONSERED, and
SUCCESSFULLY pushed THEIR legislation thru congress. And if you can
identify any who have, did their legislation benefit the vast majority
of US citizens or was it yet another special deal for the people who
own them? And Carly... she managed to nearly put a great company out
of business. All she can point to as an accomplishment is her golden
parachute. But you keep focusing on the nonsense and we can be
assured that our next president will be cut from the same threadbare
cloth as the last two.

On Sat, 26 Sep 2015 18:07:57 -0700 (PDT), Uncle Monster
wrote:

On Saturday, September 26, 2015 at 1:09:39 PM UTC-5, Ashton Crusher wrote:
On Fri, 25 Sep 2015 12:22:08 -0700, Oren wrote:

On Fri, 25 Sep 2015 12:02:49 -0700 (PDT), trader_4
wrote:

On Friday, September 25, 2015 at 2:54:31 PM UTC-4, Oren wrote:
On Fri, 25 Sep 2015 11:43:14 -0700, T wrote:

Boehner resigned! YIPPEE !!!!!!!


Where is the bad?! We don't need RINO's.

Probably should wait to find out who's going to replace him
before T starts celebrating. Whoever it is, I hope it's someone
who will keep the few extremists under control who want to shut
down the govt again, over Planned Parenthood this time.

Congress, by the Constitution in meant to be in grid-lock. It was
designed that way. Checks and balances. America is better off. I'm
tired of a politician saying what they "will do", gets elected and not
fill the promises made. Take Trump for example -- promises, promises
-- no substance in his rhetoric.

I'd rather hear honesty. Elect me and I won't do **** for you!

What you want to hear and what the vast majority of the other voters
want to hear are two different things. No one will ever be elected on
the platform of "I'll do nothing".

Ben Carson took an oath to do no harm. He'd make a good President. ^_^



Yeah, if you want a president with such a poor grasp of science that
he thinks evolution isn't real. Or because men who go into prison and
get forced into homosexual acts it means they have chosen to be
homosexuals and that proves homosexuality is a choice. He has ONE
skill, surgical skill, that's it.

On Monday, October 5, 2015 at 5:36:13 PM UTC-5, Stormin Mormon wrote:
On 10/5/2015 9:52 AM, Uncle Monster wrote:
On Monday, October 5, 2015 at 6:56:38 AM UTC-5, Stormin Mormon wrote:
My return email is working (though I don't check
it very often). If you trust me enough to send
contact info, I'll notify some folks in your area,
see if I can get someone to you.

https://www.lds.org/manual/family-gu...sings?lang=eng

Here is some information. Hope that's of some
help.

I appreciate the concern but I've had visits from
ministers in the hospital who minister churches I've
helped out. I don't share their faith, I helped them
because they're nice people who give what little they
have to help others. Those mega churches are the only
ones I never help because the folks there are a bit
too snooty for me. Thanks for your concern but I don't
seek out religious support and I'm never disrespectful
to them if they visit. A local church group came through
a while back with a little bag of goodies for everyone.
it wasn't much but it was greatly appreciated. ^_^

[8~{} Uncle Goodies Monster


At the risk of sounding a bit over the top pompous,
I do believe there is great difference between LDS
and other blessings. Ours work, because we have the
priesthood.

Did I sound pompous? Hope not.
-
.

I was raised Roman Catholic and there is a priesthood in that religion. My oldest brother attended a seminary when he was a youngster but decided he didn't want to be a priest when he reached puberty and got interested in girls. I always treat proselytizers with respect until it becomes apparent that they don't comprehend the meaning of three simple words in the English language, "No thank you." I don't like to be mean and nasty to people unless they force it out of me. If a priest of any faith were to visit me, I would be polite, respectful and thank them for their prayers and blessing but I'm not soliciting visits by clergy and really don't want the distraction. Thank you for your concern and if your priest wishes to Email a blessing, I'd thank him. God be with you. ^_^

[8~{} Uncle Heathen Monster

On Monday, October 5, 2015 at 6:40:57 PM UTC-5, Ashton Crusher wrote:
On Sat, 26 Sep 2015 18:07:57 -0700 (PDT), Uncle Monster
wrote:

On Saturday, September 26, 2015 at 1:09:39 PM UTC-5, Ashton Crusher wrote:
On Fri, 25 Sep 2015 12:22:08 -0700, Oren wrote:

On Fri, 25 Sep 2015 12:02:49 -0700 (PDT), trader_4
wrote:

On Friday, September 25, 2015 at 2:54:31 PM UTC-4, Oren wrote:
On Fri, 25 Sep 2015 11:43:14 -0700, T wrote:

Boehner resigned! YIPPEE !!!!!!!


Where is the bad?! We don't need RINO's.

Probably should wait to find out who's going to replace him
before T starts celebrating. Whoever it is, I hope it's someone
who will keep the few extremists under control who want to shut
down the govt again, over Planned Parenthood this time.

Congress, by the Constitution in meant to be in grid-lock. It was
designed that way. Checks and balances. America is better off. I'm
tired of a politician saying what they "will do", gets elected and not
fill the promises made. Take Trump for example -- promises, promises
-- no substance in his rhetoric.

I'd rather hear honesty. Elect me and I won't do **** for you!

What you want to hear and what the vast majority of the other voters
want to hear are two different things. No one will ever be elected on
the platform of "I'll do nothing".

Ben Carson took an oath to do no harm. He'd make a good President. ^_^


Yeah, if you want a president with such a poor grasp of science that
he thinks evolution isn't real. Or because men who go into prison and
get forced into homosexual acts it means they have chosen to be
homosexuals and that proves homosexuality is a choice. He has ONE
skill, surgical skill, that's it.

I doubt he would try to force his religious beliefs on everyone like our current president. ^_^

[8~{} Uncle President Monster

On Monday, October 5, 2015 at 7:40:57 PM UTC-4, Ashton Crusher wrote:
On Sat, 26 Sep 2015 18:07:57 -0700 (PDT), Uncle Monster
wrote:

On Saturday, September 26, 2015 at 1:09:39 PM UTC-5, Ashton Crusher wrote:
On Fri, 25 Sep 2015 12:22:08 -0700, Oren wrote:

On Fri, 25 Sep 2015 12:02:49 -0700 (PDT), trader_4
wrote:

On Friday, September 25, 2015 at 2:54:31 PM UTC-4, Oren wrote:
On Fri, 25 Sep 2015 11:43:14 -0700, T wrote:

Boehner resigned! YIPPEE !!!!!!!


Where is the bad?! We don't need RINO's.

Probably should wait to find out who's going to replace him
before T starts celebrating. Whoever it is, I hope it's someone
who will keep the few extremists under control who want to shut
down the govt again, over Planned Parenthood this time.

Congress, by the Constitution in meant to be in grid-lock. It was
designed that way. Checks and balances. America is better off. I'm
tired of a politician saying what they "will do", gets elected and not
fill the promises made. Take Trump for example -- promises, promises
-- no substance in his rhetoric.

I'd rather hear honesty. Elect me and I won't do **** for you!

What you want to hear and what the vast majority of the other voters
want to hear are two different things. No one will ever be elected on
the platform of "I'll do nothing".

Ben Carson took an oath to do no harm. He'd make a good President. ^_^



Yeah, if you want a president with such a poor grasp of science that
he thinks evolution isn't real. Or because men who go into prison and
get forced into homosexual acts it means they have chosen to be
homosexuals and that proves homosexuality is a choice. He has ONE
skill, surgical skill, that's it.

Of course Trump says that he's going to round up 11 mil illegals, deport
them all, at a cost of $120 bil, then he will "expedite" their legal
return back here. That has a lot more relevance in the election
than what a candidate believes in evolution. Besides, weren't you the
guy saying it's all just bluster, nothing matters, etc? Why is Carson's
opinion of how someone becomes homosexual probative to the election,
while Trump's flip-flops among party, immigration positions, etc is irrelevant?
Sounds like very selective and irrational application of rules.

On 10/6/2015 5:16 AM, Uncle Monster wrote:
On Monday, October 5, 2015 at 5:36:13 PM UTC-5, Stormin Mormon wrote:
At the risk of sounding a bit over the top pompous,
I do believe there is great difference between LDS
and other blessings. Ours work, because we have the
priesthood.

Did I sound pompous? Hope not.
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.

I was raised Roman Catholic and there is a priesthood
in that religion. My oldest brother attended a seminary
when he was a youngster but decided he didn't want to
be a priest when he reached puberty and got interested
in girls. I always treat proselytizers with respect
until it becomes apparent that they don't comprehend
the meaning of three simple words in the English
language, "No thank you." I don't like to be mean and
nasty to people unless they force it out of me. If a
priest of any faith were to visit me, I would be polite,
respectful and thank them for their prayers and blessing
but I'm not soliciting visits by clergy and really don't
want the distraction. Thank you for your concern and if
your priest wishes to Email a blessing, I'd thank him.
God be with you. ^_^

[8~{} Uncle Heathen Monster


Thanks for clearing that up. I also try to be
polite when possible. Not always possible, but
that's life in this planet.

Emailing a blessing isn't possible. Needs to be
in person, hands on. Fun idea, though.

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