On Sunday, October 4, 2015 at 1:17:30 PM UTC-4, Oren wrote:
On Sun, 4 Oct 2015 10:03:01 -0700 (PDT), trader_4
wrote:

On Sunday, October 4, 2015 at 12:45:44 PM UTC-4, Oren wrote:
On Sun, 4 Oct 2015 09:31:36 -0700 (PDT), trader_4
wrote:

On Sunday, October 4, 2015 at 12:15:16 PM UTC-4, Oren wrote:
On Sat, 03 Oct 2015 06:48:57 -0500, "Dean Hoffman"
wrote:

Trump did get his name seemingly everywhere though.

... he licenses his name on many products, from steaks to mattresses.

Wait until he builds the Trump Fence and has Mexico pay it.

Another interesting aspect to that, Trump is at war with Forbes
or Fortune, forget which, complaining because they put his net worth
at $4.5 bil, not $10 bil. While yapping about that, Trump said they fail
to fairly value the Trump brand. Translation, he's really
closer to the $4.5 bil, the other $5.5 bil is his inflated estimate
of the value of his name. I know what it's worth to you and I....


It means squat to us.

As to making Mexico pay for the fence, deporting 11 mil illegals and
all the other crap, according to Ashton, it's just Trump s negotiating and
Trump never intends to actually do it. Isn't that exactly what all
the "typical politicians" that the Trumpies denounce do? When the
other "politicians" don't do what they say, then it's horrible.
But Trump can do it and it's just peachy keen. Somehow I don't think
most Trumpies feel that way.

Trump, by his own rhetoric is not familiar with immigration law and
courts. Immigration courts are very much under funded, under staffed
and not capable of dealing with the problems in a timely manner. It
takes years to go through immigration courts. Just look at how the VA
handles case loads. The VA has even destroyed mountains of records,
trying to look more efficient.

Maybe Trump will use the 95 million unemployed to escort the 11
million back to Mexico but they have to transverse the legal system
via the immigration courts?!

I agree with your observations. My main point was if you look at
what Ashton posted, he's saying we don't understand Trump, that
Trump doesn't intend to deport those illegals at all. It's just
bluster that's part of "negotiating". What I don't understand is
when a "typical politician" says one thing and can't deliver,
never mind doing it deliberately, they are spat on by the Trumpies.
It's one of the things that drives them nuts. Yet according
to Ashton, it's perfectly cool for Trump to deliberately promise
things he knows he can't deliver. Go figure.

Even the OP, "T" (Todd) is pushing for Trump. Yet, they do not see the
fallacy in his policies or verbiage. Todd and Ashton like what they
hear. Maybe they like it when he attacks others, too.

Trump _has not_ persuaded me yet. The first three letters of Convince
-- are "CON". G

Looks like Kevin McCarthy is going down in flames big time. I said
might be better to wait to see who replaces Boehner before rejoicing.
I was no Boehner fan, but I have some sympathy for him. His job was
like herding cats. And it didn't take more than a few days for
McCarthy to run in the ditch. I'm sure you heard the dumb soundbite,
where his remarks on the Benghazi investigation sounded like he was
working for Hillary. I also heard him say that the GOP has accomplished
some things, "they brought the deficit way down". Say what? It's the
libs that want to lie and use 2009, the one horrific, extraordinary
year, where the deficit jumped to $1.4 tril as the new baseline.
If you're going to use that fake, phony measuring stick, you might
as well be a lib. By any reasonable measure, the current $450 bil
deficit 6 1/2 years into a "recovery", is a disaster. The deficit
in 2007 was just $160 bil and had been declining. THAT should be
the metric.