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On 10/2/2012 6:04 PM, Mike Marlow wrote:
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On 10/1/2012 7:57 PM, Larry Blanchard wrote:
On Mon, 01 Oct 2012 16:49:14 -0700, SonomaProducts.com wrote:

Maybe I can get him something from Ikea. He won't know the
difference. :-(

There are entirely too many people out there like that! Next time
give him a board with a recess routed in it and call it a picture
frame. You could even mount a picture of your table in it :-).


Along the same lines, I built something with beautiful highly figured
wood and gave it as a house warming gift to a friend and his wife.

She said, didn't you have any better wood. I explained that the
beautiful figure was highly prized and treasured. She said it would be
better if it were just plain brown.


And... when I had a custom built guitar built, I selected the wood. It was
the wood that I liked. Not what the luthier liked, or what anyone else may
have liked or not liked. It was my money, and my desires. Why do guys here
think that their preferences are ordained? It's what the customer wants.
Sheese...



Cant you read MIKE?????? It was a freaking GIFT!!!!

YOU DO NOT look a gift horse in the mouth.

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On 10/3/2012 4:00 PM, SonomaProducts.com wrote:
On Wednesday, October 3, 2012 10:10:20 AM UTC-7, dpb wrote:
On 10/3/2012 12:03 PM, SonomaProducts.com wrote: ...

...
I spend hours and hours studying and doing an exact job thinking I
have achieved some great pinnical of my craft....


To be somewhat pedantic--

Indeed, that is craft, not art. What art there is was in the original
creation, not in making a reproduction.

And, btw, it would be a "pinnacle" just to be complete.

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Don't be a trouble-maker! lol

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I guess you totally miss the irony in my original post. I explain how
I take all this time doing such an exact job and the world doesn't
notice. I was capping on myself as much (more actually) than my
friend.


I guess I did miss that. Please allow me to say that such was not very
obvious (at least to me...) in your comments.


I do take offense that you say I am not an artist. I am. Is my art
loved by all? No. Does that stop me from creating what is in my
heart? No. Are there those who can appreciate and love my art? Yes.


Yes - I'll take that back. Doing great work - especially with such
dedication to detail is indeed a form of artistry - and I do not want to
deny that in your work. My bad for using that phrase. I will hold though
to what I believe is a component of an artist, which is to appeal to the eye
of the "public" - though I know that can sometimes conflict with the inner
thing in an artist. Now - go figure that out...



That's the thing about art. You don't get to decide. It is an
expression of the artist.


I agree. And I suppose it is the right of an artist to complain about not
being understood. And as a regular Joe, I just don't understand them damned
artists...

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Usnet standards? Piffle. I enjoy reading a lot and sharing a little.
I was castigated a few times for "top posting" which seemd more
logical for me using my Google reader. However, I stopped doing that
since it seemd to be a problem for old fashioned email reader types.
Other than that I never had any class on how to "comply" with usenet
and have no interest in doing so. I am a free man and conduct myself
so. If you are so sophisticated in usenet usage maybe you can filter
out my non-artistic drivle and bad spellin.


Nope - I don't find your stuff to be insufferable. I don't filter anybody
(with almost no exceptions), so you're certainly not going to be filtered.
But - readability is another story. It's not a matter of what you are
saying, but how you are saying it. Now that you've had it explained to you
that your posts are almost uninteligable, if you persist, I may just skip
over them - though I won't kill file you. What you say above is a bit over
the edge though - you do it your way with no regard for anyone else? For
any accepted standards in a community? That really does not fit with the
other things you've presented of yourself here in the past.

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Leon wrote:
On 10/2/2012 6:04 PM, Mike Marlow wrote:
tiredofspam wrote:
On 10/1/2012 7:57 PM, Larry Blanchard wrote:
On Mon, 01 Oct 2012 16:49:14 -0700, SonomaProducts.com wrote:

Maybe I can get him something from Ikea. He won't know the
difference. :-(

There are entirely too many people out there like that! Next time
give him a board with a recess routed in it and call it a picture
frame. You could even mount a picture of your table in it :-).


Along the same lines, I built something with beautiful highly
figured wood and gave it as a house warming gift to a friend and
his wife. She said, didn't you have any better wood. I explained that
the
beautiful figure was highly prized and treasured. She said it would
be better if it were just plain brown.


And... when I had a custom built guitar built, I selected the wood. It
was the wood that I liked. Not what the luthier liked, or what
anyone else may have liked or not liked. It was my money, and my
desires. Why do guys here think that their preferences are
ordained? It's what the customer wants. Sheese...



Cant you read MIKE?????? It was a freaking GIFT!!!!

YOU DO NOT look a gift horse in the mouth.


That does not make sense Leon. The recipient did not look a gift horse in
the mouth. They asked for an addition item, with different specifications.
Can you read???

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"SonomaProducts.com"

Replying to this post but there are many posts with the same argument
"the customeer is always right" And I agree with that statement. However,
I am not in the cabinet business. I don't build what people ask me to
build. I don't take commisions. I am an artist. I create beautiful things
in wood. I have pretty much sold everything I ever offered for sale. I
have tossed aside my failures. Not everyone will love or even like what I
do. I think of it like a pair of shoes. I think most of them are ugly but
somebody is buying them. I just buy the ones I like. My art is offered in the same way.

My original post was about how a dear and close friend does not have the
same stylistic sensibilities as myself and I thought that was funny.

I know that I have been the one to push harsh opinions on little
insignifacant subjects sometimes so I guess what goes around...


I've mentioned this in the past, but once again ... I've always been a fan
of your work and certainly was not denigrating it in any way, simply
remarking upon the necessity for most of us to put the term "custom" into
the forefront. I meant it when I said good luck ... keep following that
muse, Bubba, and don't let a bunch of us jaded old farts get you down.

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I spend hours getting my Stickley reproduction designs as exact as possible, measuring from eBay photos and Stickley catlogs. I did a run of very small round tables, in Cherry (not classic). Something you might use as a plant stand. I exercise exacting detail. I did an oil finish (tried and true) that took a few weeks to complete. I give one to a dear friend for his birthday.

His wife says "Hey great, we can use it as a stool in the shower!" I help them understand maybe it won't hold up to the use in a wet environment.

Now a few weeks later I get an email. "Hey I want to give one of your stools to a friend. Do you have another one? Could you whack an inch off of the legs and add some adjusters to the bottom in-case they have an uneven floor?"

Maybe I can get him something from Ikea. He won't know the difference. :-(


I had forgotten you were genuinely in the business. I saw this at your
web site, associated with some of your kits:

"You are given the unfinished components with all of the complex milling
already completed, clear and extensive plans and step-by-step
instructions and all the necessary hardware. We also provide numerous
fool-proof finishing techniques and recipes that anyone can perform in
their home shop, garage or shed."

Maybe the friend you gifted your table to read that? I can understand a
little better how he might have been confused by your ambiguous attitude
now. Personally, FWIW, I have a lot of respect for your work!

Cheers,
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On 10/3/2012 10:27 AM, dpb wrote:
On 10/2/2012 2:32 PM, SonomaProducts.com wrote:
On Monday, October 1, 2012 9:58:32 PM UTC-7, dpb wrote:
...You doing art or trying to make a living from woodworking here?


As a popular bumper sticker here in SW KS farm country says, "Farming
without a profit motive is gardening". The sentiment has to hold for
any vocation--vision is nice but it may not pay the bills.


I figured about 2 people here earn their living from their wood shop.
One of them, and I felt sorry for him, was SonomaProducts. Now I find
out he earns his living otherwise, and does this stuff more as a hobby.
So I was off by about one, possibly two, and, since it's his hobby, I
don't have to feel sorry for him. In other words, about no one here is
a farmer, most are "just gardeners".

I've found over the years to only make what you want, not much else
unless it is for a very, very good friend, then do it for friendship,
not money. Few on earth can afford to pay me what I want to make
something I *want* to make, let alone something I *don't* want to make,
and also be dumb enough to pay that much. Those prices require artistic
perfection, something few attain.

How much is it worth to turn a hobby into work?

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On 10/3/2012 3:33 PM, Mike Marlow wrote:
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I create
beautiful things in wood. I have pretty much sold everything I ever
offered for sale. I have tossed aside my failures. Not everyone will
love or even like what I do. I think of it like a pair of shoes. I
think most of them are ugly but somebody is buying them. I just buy
the ones I like. My art is offered in the same way.


Then don't sell or give your "art" to people who will not respect your
"artistry". You clearly think too much of yourself and not enough of
others. Just build your stuff to satisfy yourself and don't burden the rest
of the world with what they can't possibly understand. Build it, admire it
and go to sleep at night patting yourself on your own back. Just quit
bitching that others don't see it your way. You may do very nice work, but
you sir, are no artist. An artist is concerned for what the viewer sees.
You are only concerned for what you want them to see.


I think you are confused. A businessman may be concerned about what
others see, artists almost never care, and many do their life's work
unnoticed until long dead. Myself, I'm certainly not an artist, nor am
I a business man. I do woodwork for my own enjoyment, same reason I
like to program, or shoot pool, or take pictures. I don't do any of
these things for money, and don't particularly care who likes my stuff
besides me.

On the other hand, My daughter just got married and I made her an Irish
wedding goblet out of a gorgeous hunk of black walnut cut from a friends
yard years ago and sitting in my shop waiting for a special occasion.
It turned out pretty nice considering I haven't done much lathe work in
years but I was still hoping she liked it. She cried when she saw it
because I made it I guess. My buddy came in from out of town for the
wedding and when he saw the captured rings on the goblet, he reminded me
I made him a baby's rattle 35 years ago when his son was born with
captured rings, and he just gave it to his son for his new baby.

That's how "gardeners" gauge value, and when you want to take a custom
made wooden gift into the shower, you insult the gardener, when you
still have the gift 35 years later, and pass it down to your children,
you make the gardener smile, even when he is is a crotchety old man.

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On 10/3/2012 5:04 PM, SonomaProducts.com wrote:
Usnet standards? Piffle. I enjoy reading a lot and sharing a little. I was castigated a few times for

"top posting" which seemd more logical for me using my Google reader.
However, I stopped doing that
since it seemd to be a problem for old fashioned email reader types.

Piffle! Top posting, bottom posting and intertwined posting are all
correct, depending on the situation.

Other than that I never had any class on how to "comply" with usenet and
have no interest in doing so.

Common sense and courtesy are in order. Quoting giant messages with a
short bottom reply is ignorant. If your too dumb or lazy or ignorant to
properly edit a message, quoting what is needed, then at least top post
the drivel.

I am a free man and conduct myself so.

Wish I lived in your country:-)

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On 10/3/2012 7:11 PM, Swingman wrote:
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I've mentioned this in the past, but once again ... I've always been a fan
of your work and certainly was not denigrating it in any way, simply
remarking upon the necessity for most of us to put the term "custom" into
the forefront. I meant it when I said good luck ... keep following that
muse, Bubba, and don't let a bunch of us jaded old farts get you down.


Indeed, my comments are nothing against the work...or the love thereof;
only that reality often punctures one's hoped-for bubble.

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Jack wrote:
On 10/3/2012 3:33 PM, Mike Marlow wrote:
SonomaProducts.com wrote:


I create
beautiful things in wood. I have pretty much sold everything I ever
offered for sale. I have tossed aside my failures. Not everyone will
love or even like what I do. I think of it like a pair of shoes. I
think most of them are ugly but somebody is buying them. I just buy
the ones I like. My art is offered in the same way.


Then don't sell or give your "art" to people who will not respect
your "artistry". You clearly think too much of yourself and not
enough of others. Just build your stuff to satisfy yourself and
don't burden the rest of the world with what they can't possibly
understand. Build it, admire it and go to sleep at night patting
yourself on your own back. Just quit bitching that others don't see
it your way. You may do very nice work, but you sir, are no artist.
An artist is concerned for what the viewer sees. You are only
concerned for what you want them to see.


I think you are confused. A businessman may be concerned about what
others see, artists almost never care, and many do their life's work
unnoticed until long dead. Myself, I'm certainly not an artist, nor
am I a business man. I do woodwork for my own enjoyment, same reason
I like to program, or shoot pool, or take pictures. I don't do any of
these things for money, and don't particularly care who likes my stuff
besides me.

On the other hand, My daughter just got married and I made her an
Irish wedding goblet out of a gorgeous hunk of black walnut cut from
a friends yard years ago and sitting in my shop waiting for a special
occasion. It turned out pretty nice considering I haven't done much
lathe work in years but I was still hoping she liked it. She cried
when she saw it because I made it I guess. My buddy came in from out
of town for the wedding and when he saw the captured rings on the
goblet, he reminded me I made him a baby's rattle 35 years ago when
his son was born with captured rings, and he just gave it to his son
for his new baby.
That's how "gardeners" gauge value, and when you want to take a custom
made wooden gift into the shower, you insult the gardener, when you
still have the gift 35 years later, and pass it down to your children,
you make the gardener smile, even when he is is a crotchety old man.


The difference is that you passively got to enjoy those moments. You did
not dictatte those moments. One cannot presume to dictate what others
should appreciate, which is what I was trying to say in my original
comments.

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SonomaProducts.com wrote: I guess you totally miss the irony in my original post. I explain how I take all this time doing such an exact job and the world doesn't notice. I was capping on myself as much (more actually) than my friend. I guess I did miss that. Please allow me to say that such was not very obvious (at least to me...) in your comments. I do take offense that you say I am not an artist. I am. Is my art loved by all? No. Does that stop me from creating what is in my heart? No. Are there those who can appreciate and love my art? Yes. Yes - I'll take that back. Doing great work - especially with such dedication to detail is indeed a form of artistry - and I do not want to deny that in your work. My bad for using that phrase. I will hold though to what I believe is a component of an artist, which is to appeal to the eye of the "public" - though I know that can sometimes conflict with the inner thing in an artist. Now - go figure that out... That's the thing about art. You don't get to decide. It is an expression of the artist. I agree. And I suppose it is the right of an artist to complain about not being understood. And as a regular Joe, I just don't understand them damned artists... -- -Mike-


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I spend hours getting my Stickley reproduction designs as exact as possible, measuring from eBay photos and Stickley catlogs. I did a run of very small round tables, in Cherry (not classic). Something you might use as a plant stand. I exercise exacting detail. I did an oil finish (tried and true) that took a few weeks to complete. I give one to a dear friend for his birthday.



His wife says "Hey great, we can use it as a stool in the shower!" I help them understand maybe it won't hold up to the use in a wet environment.



Now a few weeks later I get an email. "Hey I want to give one of your stools to a friend. Do you have another one? Could you whack an inch off of the legs and add some adjusters to the bottom in-case they have an uneven floor?"



Maybe I can get him something from Ikea. He won't know the difference. :-(


I have built several heavy rocking horses using contrasting hardwoods. I spend 80-100 hours on each and I have seen some with similar substance and features in the $500 and up price range. Two of mine have gone to grandkids and one to the daughter of a good friend. The other two have been donated to our church for raffles.

Invariably someone sees one of them and asks the dreaded question: "How much would it cost for you to build one of those for me? I start off explaining that there is nearly $200 worth of hardwood and hardware in the horse. That is when I get that "over the top of the glasses look" and you can hear them thinking "This guy is getting ready to screw me." These people have no clue that with the cost of materials, even if I charged $500, I could make the big bucks shoving hamburgers across the counter at McDonald's.

They don't have a clue.

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Invariably someone sees one of them and asks the dreaded question:
"How much would it cost for you to build one of those for me? I
start off explaining that there is nearly $200 worth of hardwood and
hardware in the horse. That is when I get that "over the top of the
glasses look" and you can hear them thinking "This guy is getting
ready to screw me."


Maybe just say you can make the horses for $750, or that you can provide
detailed instructions including a material list for $25.
Include a list of the required tools too.
To be nice, you can even offer to provide assistance over the phone if
they run into trouble.

Maybe if you tried eagerly to explain how they could build their own you
could close your sales faster! Perhaps don't even provide them a price
until they well understand exactly how they could build their own! : )

Good luck (and have fun)!
Bill


These people have no clue that with the cost of
materials, even if I charged $500, I could make the big bucks shoving
hamburgers across the counter at McDonald's.

They don't have a clue.

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I have built several heavy rocking horses using contrasting
hardwoods. I spend 80-100 hours on each and I have seen some with
similar substance and features in the $500 and up price range. Two
of mine have gone to grandkids and one to the daughter of a good
friend. The other two have been donated to our church for raffles.


Invariably someone sees one of them and asks the dreaded question:
"How much would it cost for you to build one of those for me?
--------------------------------------------------
Normally the price is $1,000.00; however, if you are not in a hurry,
could probably do one for $750 in about 6 months after receipt of a
$500.00 advance deposit.

Keeps out the riff raff.


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I have built several heavy rocking horses using contrasting


hardwoods. I spend 80-100 hours on each and I have seen some with


similar substance and features in the $500 and up price range. Two


of mine have gone to grandkids and one to the daughter of a good


friend. The other two have been donated to our church for raffles.




Invariably someone sees one of them and asks the dreaded question:

"How much would it cost for you to build one of those for me?

--------------------------------------------------

Normally the price is $1,000.00; however, if you are not in a hurry,

could probably do one for $750 in about 6 months after receipt of a

$500.00 advance deposit.



Keeps out the riff raff.





Lew


Mine are not quite in that range. The carousel-type of carved horses do sell in the $1,500 and up (way up) range. Mine is a whimsical take-off of about three different patterns I picked up over the years plus about 1/3 my own design. I have a 16" x 44" x 2-1/2" slab of walnut in the garage now and I'm pretty sure it contains a horse body. Maple on the top row of my rack will make the rockers. Smaller chunks of cherry and Myrtle wood will do mane, tail and details. Just need to it get going.

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"RonB" wrote:








I have built several heavy rocking horses using contrasting




hardwoods. I spend 80-100 hours on each and I have seen some with




similar substance and features in the $500 and up price range. Two




of mine have gone to grandkids and one to the daughter of a good




friend. The other two have been donated to our church for raffles.








Invariably someone sees one of them and asks the dreaded question:




"How much would it cost for you to build one of those for me?




--------------------------------------------------




Normally the price is $1,000.00; however, if you are not in a hurry,




could probably do one for $750 in about 6 months after receipt of a




$500.00 advance deposit.








Keeps out the riff raff.












Lew




Mine are not quite in that range. The carousel-type of carved horses do sell in the $1,500 and up (way up) range. Mine is a whimsical take-off of about three different patterns I picked up over the years plus about 1/3 my own design. I have a 16" x 44" x 2-1/2" slab of walnut in the garage now and I'm pretty sure it contains a horse body. Maple on the top row of my rack will make the rockers. Smaller chunks of cherry and Myrtle wood will do mane, tail and details. Just need to it get going.



RonB


A couple of them are he

http://www.flickr.com/photos/27816715@N03/
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A couple of them are he

http://www.flickr.com/photos/27816715@N03/

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I wish to revise my comment.

Discounted selling price: $1,000.00.

Base selling price: $1,500.00.

Anything less and your selling yourself short.

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RonB


A couple of them are he

http://www.flickr.com/photos/27816715@N03/


They are beautiful! : )
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On Friday, October 5, 2012 11:10:49 AM UTC-5, RonB wrote:
On Thursday, October 4, 2012 8:01:13 PM UTC-5, Lew Hodgett wrote:

"RonB" wrote:








I have built several heavy rocking horses using contrasting




hardwoods. I spend 80-100 hours on each and I have seen some with




similar substance and features in the $500 and up price range. Two




of mine have gone to grandkids and one to the daughter of a good




friend. The other two have been donated to our church for raffles.








Invariably someone sees one of them and asks the dreaded question:




"How much would it cost for you to build one of those for me?




--------------------------------------------------




Normally the price is $1,000.00; however, if you are not in a hurry,




could probably do one for $750 in about 6 months after receipt of a




$500.00 advance deposit.








Keeps out the riff raff.












Lew




Mine are not quite in that range. The carousel-type of carved horses do
sell in the $1,500 and up (way up) range. Mine is a whimsical take-off of
about three different patterns I picked up over the years plus about 1/3
my own design. I have a 16" x 44" x 2-1/2" slab of walnut in the garage
now and I'm pretty sure it contains a horse body. Maple on the top row of
my rack will make the rockers. Smaller chunks of cherry and Myrtle wood
will do mane, tail and details. Just need to it get going.



RonB


A couple of them are he

http://www.flickr.com/photos/27816715@N03/
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Fantastic work.

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On Friday, October 5, 2012 11:10:49 AM UTC-5, RonB wrote:


I have built several heavy rocking horses using contrasting


A couple of them are he

http://www.flickr.com/photos/27816715@N03/


Absolute heirlooms, which are guaranteed to one day be priceless ...
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On 10/5/2012 1:36 PM, RonB wrote:
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I have built several heavy rocking horses using contrasting




hardwoods. I spend 80-100 hours on each and I have seen some with




similar substance and features in the $500 and up price range. Two




of mine have gone to grandkids and one to the daughter of a good




friend. The other two have been donated to our church for raffles.








Invariably someone sees one of them and asks the dreaded question:




"How much would it cost for you to build one of those for me?




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Normally the price is $1,000.00; however, if you are not in a hurry,




could probably do one for $750 in about 6 months after receipt of a




$500.00 advance deposit.








Keeps out the riff raff.












Lew




Mine are not quite in that range. The carousel-type of carved horses do sell in the $1,500 and up (way up) range. Mine is a whimsical take-off of about three different patterns I picked up over the years plus about 1/3 my own design. I have a 16" x 44" x 2-1/2" slab of walnut in the garage now and I'm pretty sure it contains a horse body. Maple on the top row of my rack will make the rockers. Smaller chunks of cherry and Myrtle wood will do mane, tail and details. Just need to it get going.



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Great work and superb wood and grain selection!




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A couple of them are he

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They are beautiful! : )



+1. Wow, the figure in that walnut mane on #5 is just breathtaking.

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On Friday, October 5, 2012 11:10:49 AM UTC-5, RonB wrote:
On Thursday, October 4, 2012 8:01:13 PM UTC-5, Lew Hodgett wrote:

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I have built several heavy rocking horses using contrasting




hardwoods. I spend 80-100 hours on each and I have seen some with




similar substance and features in the $500 and up price range. Two




of mine have gone to grandkids and one to the daughter of a good




friend. The other two have been donated to our church for raffles.








Invariably someone sees one of them and asks the dreaded question:




"How much would it cost for you to build one of those for me?




--------------------------------------------------




Normally the price is $1,000.00; however, if you are not in a hurry,




could probably do one for $750 in about 6 months after receipt of a




$500.00 advance deposit.








Keeps out the riff raff.












Lew




Mine are not quite in that range. The carousel-type of carved horses do sell in the $1,500 and up (way up) range. Mine is a whimsical take-off of about three different patterns I picked up over the years plus about 1/3 my own design. I have a 16" x 44" x 2-1/2" slab of walnut in the garage now and I'm pretty sure it contains a horse body. Maple on the top row of my rack will make the rockers. Smaller chunks of cherry and Myrtle wood will do mane, tail and details. Just need to it get going.



RonB


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http://www.flickr.com/photos/27816715@N03/


Great work, I have some things I make and the family loves them but
then they start saying you could make this or that and sell them and
street fairs. My mother was trying to get me make wood coasters. I
have to keep reminding them there is a reason I'm still a licensed
master electrician. So I guess I understand where Sonoma Products is
coming from. I want to make what I take enjoyment in.

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remarking upon the necessity for most of us to put the term "custom" into
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Sign noticed in cabinetry shop window in Chatham, England--

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remarking upon the necessity for most of us to put the term "custom" into
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Sign noticed in cabinetry shop window in Chatham, England--

"Joinery for Purpose"


I also like their term "bespoke" ... Bespoke Furniture, cabinets. etc.

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remarking upon the necessity for most of us to put the term "custom"
into
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Sign noticed in cabinetry shop window in Chatham, England--

"Joinery for Purpose"


I also like their term "bespoke" ... Bespoke Furniture, cabinets. etc.



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On Friday, October 5, 2012 9:16:12 PM UTC-5, Larry Jaques wrote:
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RonB wrote:




RonB




A couple of them are he




http://www.flickr.com/photos/27816715@N03/






They are beautiful! : )






+1. Wow, the figure in that walnut mane on #5 is just breathtaking.



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to cure diseases of which they know less,

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Thanks for the nice comments folks - appreciated. You guys probably wouldn't want to know what I pay for my figured and curly walnut. there is a hardwood mill about 35 miles south of us that provides air-dried wood for local cabinetmakers. But a large part of their market is supplying area high school wood programs. I bought the last small pile of their sapwood/curly 'cast-offs' for .75 to $1.10 per board foot. I have to pick through the pile and about 1/2 or more of a board ends up in the kindling bin but there is some beautiful stuff in there.

Since the next horse will be walnut I am going to try to contrast mane and tail with some Myrtle wood I got in Oregon a couple of weeks ago. Saddle - Maybe Cherry.

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You just have to laugh when you hear something like this. It's like giving
the Mona Lisa to a kid who wants to play with their finger paints.
I think you have the right idea . . send them to the local Ikea . . they
will think it's fine furniture!
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