On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 11:38:08 -0600, "Leon"
wrote:


"Puckdropper" puckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com wrote in message
. ..
Peter Huebner wrote in
t:


Lucky sod. My wife got a chainsaw grin - well she asked for one a
week ago. So that's some kind of woodworking tool.

My Mum said "I want a power screwdriver that is all mine. Not anyone
else's." She's not getting my Makitas, but I found her a nice Panasonic
for Christmas.

I'll have to borrow it once to see why it's a favorite brand here. ;-)

Puckdropper

I have had both Panasonic and Makita and they are/were my favorites of all
the other brands I have owned. You may want to give your Mum the Makita and
keep the Panasonic for yourself.

I like my Bosch (Impactor and regular). OTOH, I don't like the
"broken-stick" screwdrivers at all. We have a Milwaukee at work. No
thanks, I'll use a manual screwdriver.

DGDevin wrote:

My wife (who has a keen eye) got me a dust-collection set for my router
with different hoods for different applications, and one of those
electric
branding irons so I can sign my projects--a woman like that is a keeper!

The project I did as a Christmas gift for friends was also well-
received,
now I'll have to drive up to their place and brand it.

http://www.woodmagazine.com/photos/s...jects/holiday-
gift-projects/1365300003/?photoId=1363400009


A new Ford 460 engine for my working flatbed truck!!!
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You can lead them to LINUX
but you can't make them THINK !
Mandriva 2010 using KDE 4.3
Website: www.rentmyhusband.biz

"krw" wrote in message
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On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 09:36:29 -0800, "Lew Hodgett"
wrote:


"FrozenNorth" wrote:

Follow the recipes, they say it in there, but the order *really* is
important when adding the ingredients.

Cooking allows for some variation of a recipe, baking follows a
formula and does not.

Baking requires a very precise chemical reaction. Like other chemical
processes, the quantity and order of reactions is important. Baking
is essentially chemistry with an edible outcome.


Gosh, ya never know what yer gonna learn here! I was away for a few days
and missed most of the xmas related communications. So, to each of you I
extend a belated MC & HNY to you and yours! Mrs. Santa delivered some "gent
saws" that I saw on saw at Rockler, so I am looking forward to trying my
hand at
cutting some dove-tail joints next year (on scrap at first...). : )

Bill

On 12/27/09 12:45 PM, Robatoy wrote:
On Dec 27, 12:28 pm, wrote:
wrote in message

...

Theeeeen I scored a Cuisinart Convection Breadmaker.
I know absolutely diddly-squat 'bout those there breadmachines, but it
looks like it could be a hoot.

All breadmakers have one major flaw. They all will make you FAT.

.but, but, but it has recipes for glutton free breads... or am I
reading that wrong?

Apparently they make you pedantic too.

Yes there are the gluten free varieties, if you can find the ingredients.

--
Froz...


The system will be down for 10 days for preventive maintenance.

On Dec 27, 3:09*pm, FrozenNorth
wrote:
On 12/27/09 12:45 PM, Robatoy wrote:

On Dec 27, 12:28 pm, *wrote:
*wrote in message

....

Theeeeen I scored a Cuisinart Convection Breadmaker.
I know absolutely diddly-squat 'bout those there breadmachines, but it
looks like it could be a hoot.

All breadmakers have one major flaw. *They all will make you FAT.

.but, but, but it has recipes for glutton free breads... or am I
reading that wrong?

Apparently they make you pedantic too.

Yes there are the gluten free varieties, if you can find the ingredients.

GLUTTON free breads, my frozen friend.. GLUTTON..... G not frickin'
gluten-free... that stuff tastes like sponges look.

On 12/27/09 3:19 PM, Robatoy wrote:
On Dec 27, 3:09 pm,
wrote:
On 12/27/09 12:45 PM, Robatoy wrote:

On Dec 27, 12:28 pm, wrote:
wrote in message

...

Theeeeen I scored a Cuisinart Convection Breadmaker.
I know absolutely diddly-squat 'bout those there breadmachines, but it
looks like it could be a hoot.

All breadmakers have one major flaw. They all will make you FAT.

.but, but, but it has recipes for glutton free breads... or am I
reading that wrong?

Apparently they make you pedantic too.

Yes there are the gluten free varieties, if you can find the ingredients.

GLUTTON free breads, my frozen friend.. GLUTTON.....G not frickin'
gluten-free... that stuff tastes like sponges look.

Apparently you were reading it wrong. ;-)
Go for the liposuction attachment.

--
Froz...


The system will be down for 10 days for preventive maintenance.

krw wrote:
On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 09:36:29 -0800, "Lew Hodgett"
wrote:


"FrozenNorth" wrote:

Follow the recipes, they say it in there, but the order *really* is
important when adding the ingredients.

Cooking allows for some variation of a recipe, baking follows a
formula and does not.

Baking requires a very precise chemical reaction. Like other chemical
processes, the quantity and order of reactions is important. Baking
is essentially chemistry with an edible outcome.

Sure it does. You still need certain ingredients for a reaction, but you can
get variations by changing the quantities or adding other indgredients. If
you are making bread, you need leavening, but you can still change other
parts of the formula to suit your personal taste.

On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 08:09:01 -0700, the infamous Doug Winterburn
scrawled the following:

On 12/26/2009 05:35 PM, Robatoy wrote:
On Dec 25, 5:05 pm, wrote:
On Dec 25, 4:37 pm, "Lee
wrote:

"RonB" wrote

(tracking sawdust into the house is another issue).

Uhhhh...Yeah there IS that! ;^}

Reminds me of trying to rent a house years ago and mentioning that I would
put woodworking tools in the basement. The owner (female) recoiled in
horror and asked, "Would you be making sawdust?" When I told her yes, she
started screaming and chased us out of the house. Apparently, to her,
sawdust was the ultimate evil.

Stuff won't even burn. How evil is that???

I received a wonderful present. Planet Earth on Blu-ray.
I have all the tools I need. Need. There are still some I desire. What
I need, I have.

Oh.. and a Blu-ray player to go with it. And a few new Blu-ray discs.
Clapton& Winwood.... should be nice.
And Angela bought me a plasma.

See ya`ll in a bit. *S*

Theeeeen I scored a Cuisinart Convection Breadmaker.
I know absolutely diddly-squat 'bout those there breadmachines, but it
looks like it could be a hoot.

They make really good bread. Next year you may need the lipo attachment
for your shop vac.

What worries me is that I just heard Toy say something under his
breath about finally finding a way to use his excess sawdust...

--
"I believe that sex is one of the most beautiful, natural, wholesome things
that money can buy." --Tom Clancy

On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 17:39:22 -0500, "Ed Pawlowski"
wrote:

krw wrote:
On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 09:36:29 -0800, "Lew Hodgett"
wrote:


"FrozenNorth" wrote:

Follow the recipes, they say it in there, but the order *really* is
important when adding the ingredients.

Cooking allows for some variation of a recipe, baking follows a
formula and does not.

Baking requires a very precise chemical reaction. Like other chemical
processes, the quantity and order of reactions is important. Baking
is essentially chemistry with an edible outcome.

Sure it does. You still need certain ingredients for a reaction, but you can
get variations by changing the quantities or adding other indgredients. If
you are making bread, you need leavening, but you can still change other
parts of the formula to suit your personal taste.

Don't expect just any mixture to come out as bread.

On 12/27/2009 06:23 PM, Larry Jaques wrote:
On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 08:09:01 -0700, the infamous Doug Winterburn
scrawled the following:

On 12/26/2009 05:35 PM, Robatoy wrote:
See ya`ll in a bit. *S*

Theeeeen I scored a Cuisinart Convection Breadmaker.
I know absolutely diddly-squat 'bout those there breadmachines, but it
looks like it could be a hoot.

They make really good bread. Next year you may need the lipo attachment
for your shop vac.

What worries me is that I just heard Toy say something under his
breath about finally finding a way to use his excess sawdust...


Should be healthy - fiber in the diet and all...

"krw" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 17:39:22 -0500, "Ed Pawlowski"
Baking requires a very precise chemical reaction. Like other chemical
processes, the quantity and order of reactions is important. Baking
is essentially chemistry with an edible outcome.

Sure it does. You still need certain ingredients for a reaction, but you
can
get variations by changing the quantities or adding other indgredients.
If
you are making bread, you need leavening, but you can still change other
parts of the formula to suit your personal taste.

Don't expect just any mixture to come out as bread.

So this isn't a place to use saw dust as fiber?

John

krw wrote:
On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 17:39:22 -0500, "Ed Pawlowski"
wrote:

Sure it does. You still need certain ingredients for a reaction, but
you can get variations by changing the quantities or adding other
indgredients. If you are making bread, you need leavening, but you
can still change other parts of the formula to suit your personal
taste.

Don't expect just any mixture to come out as bread.

I did not say "any mixture", I said you still need certain ingredients to
get the proper chemical reaction. Baking soda, baking powder, yeast, sugar,
salt, buttermilk, shortening, all have a job to do. Keep the proportions in
a reasonable ratio and you can change the other ingredients at will. I've
been changing recipes for decades. You?

On Dec 27, 8:23*pm, Larry Jaques
wrote:
On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 08:09:01 -0700, the infamous Doug Winterburn
scrawled the following:





On 12/26/2009 05:35 PM, Robatoy wrote:
On Dec 25, 5:05 pm, *wrote:
On Dec 25, 4:37 pm, "Lee
wrote:

"RonB" wrote

(tracking sawdust into the house is another issue).

Uhhhh...Yeah there IS that! * ;^}

Reminds me of trying to rent a house years ago and mentioning that I would
put woodworking tools in the basement. *The owner (female) recoiled in
horror and asked, "Would you be making sawdust?" *When I told her yes, she
started screaming and chased us out of the house. Apparently, to her,
sawdust was the ultimate evil.

Stuff won't even burn. How evil is that???

I received a wonderful present. Planet Earth on Blu-ray.
I have all the tools I need. Need. There are still some I desire. What
I need, I have.

Oh.. and a Blu-ray player to go with it. And a few new Blu-ray discs.
Clapton& *Winwood.... should be nice.
And Angela bought me a plasma.

See ya`ll in a bit. *S*

Theeeeen I scored a Cuisinart Convection Breadmaker.
I know absolutely diddly-squat 'bout those there breadmachines, but it
looks like it could be a hoot.

They make really good bread. *Next year you may need the lipo attachment
for your shop vac.

What worries me is that I just heard Toy say something under his
breath about finally finding a way to use his excess sawdust...

--
"I believe that sex is one of the most beautiful, natural, wholesome things
that money can buy." * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *--Tom Clancy

I made my first Multi Grain loaf today. There is NO way anybody could
gain weight eating that stuff....not with all the flax seed,
pulverized barbed-wire and other ultra-fibre componenets.

On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 21:32:02 -0800 (PST), Robatoy
I made my first Multi Grain loaf today. There is NO way anybody could
gain weight eating that stuff....not with all the flax seed,
pulverized barbed-wire and other ultra-fibre componenets.

How BIG was this cooked pile of flax seed, barbed wire and ultra fibre
loaf and how MUCH did you eat? Eventually, most will use it to cook
the really tasty stuff and that's where the weight will start to
appear.

As I said before, I considered buying one a few years ago. Queried all
my friends that had one and got one universal fact. I'm fat enough.
With a bread maker, and all that great tasting and smelling bread or
pizza dough or whatever, you're going to eat more than you normally
would.

On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 19:56:56 -0600, the infamous Dave Balderstone
scrawled the following:

In article , krw
wrote:

On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 17:39:22 -0500, "Ed Pawlowski"
wrote:

krw wrote:
On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 09:36:29 -0800, "Lew Hodgett"
wrote:


"FrozenNorth" wrote:

Follow the recipes, they say it in there, but the order *really* is
important when adding the ingredients.

Cooking allows for some variation of a recipe, baking follows a
formula and does not.

Baking requires a very precise chemical reaction. Like other chemical
processes, the quantity and order of reactions is important. Baking
is essentially chemistry with an edible outcome.

Sure it does. You still need certain ingredients for a reaction, but you can
get variations by changing the quantities or adding other indgredients. If
you are making bread, you need leavening, but you can still change other
parts of the formula to suit your personal taste.

Don't expect just any mixture to come out as bread.

Of course not. Just as you can't expect just any mixture to come out as
wonton soup. But there's a hell of a lot of variation possible, just as
in baking.

Butter instead of shortening, or olive oil? Changes the texture and
flavour, but it's still bread. Mix white flour with wheat or rye flour?
Different texture, but it's still bread. Change the oven temperature
and/or humidity? Changes the texture and/or crust, but it's still
bread. Bake in a pan as opposed to a stone? Still bread... Change the
amount of yeast. or sugar? Still bread... Leaven with yeast or baking
powder, or not at all? Still bread...

Etc., etc.

I don't think you actually made a lot of bread with your hands. Maybe
just with machines?

The first bread-making machine my wife gave me was a 30" diameter
stainless steel bowl. It's seen a LOT of use. I have a bread machine.
Picked it up for $20 at a yard sale. Works great. It's in the basement,
along with the microwave. They were just taking up counter space.

My bread machine is in the cupboard and seldom gets used, but I
replaced my microwave the very next day when the last one died. I
thrive on the use of those things, for rewarming everything under the
sun, including the same cup of coffee 4 times when I'm working. Nukers
are Manna from Heaven, to be sure!

--
"I believe that sex is one of the most beautiful, natural, wholesome things
that money can buy." --Tom Clancy

On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 19:56:56 -0600, the infamous Dave Balderstone
scrawled the following:

In article , krw
wrote:

On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 17:39:22 -0500, "Ed Pawlowski"
wrote:

krw wrote:
On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 09:36:29 -0800, "Lew Hodgett"
wrote:


"FrozenNorth" wrote:

Follow the recipes, they say it in there, but the order *really* is
important when adding the ingredients.

Cooking allows for some variation of a recipe, baking follows a
formula and does not.

Baking requires a very precise chemical reaction. Like other chemical
processes, the quantity and order of reactions is important. Baking
is essentially chemistry with an edible outcome.

Sure it does. You still need certain ingredients for a reaction, but you can
get variations by changing the quantities or adding other indgredients. If
you are making bread, you need leavening, but you can still change other
parts of the formula to suit your personal taste.

Don't expect just any mixture to come out as bread.

Of course not. Just as you can't expect just any mixture to come out as
wonton soup. But there's a hell of a lot of variation possible, just as
in baking.

Butter instead of shortening, or olive oil? Changes the texture and
flavour, but it's still bread. Mix white flour with wheat or rye flour?
Different texture, but it's still bread. Change the oven temperature
and/or humidity? Changes the texture and/or crust, but it's still
bread. Bake in a pan as opposed to a stone? Still bread... Change the
amount of yeast. or sugar? Still bread... Leaven with yeast or baking
powder, or not at all? Still bread...

Etc., etc.

I don't think you actually made a lot of bread with your hands. Maybe
just with machines?

The first bread-making machine my wife gave me was a 30" diameter
stainless steel bowl. It's seen a LOT of use. I have a bread machine.
Picked it up for $20 at a yard sale. Works great. It's in the basement,
along with the microwave. They were just taking up counter space.

I wonder how much bread is made on the new 36" high countertops which
are the style in homes today. They're better for prep work, but not
for actual work, like kneading bread dough.

--
"I believe that sex is one of the most beautiful, natural, wholesome things
that money can buy." --Tom Clancy

On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 21:32:02 -0800 (PST), the infamous Robatoy
scrawled the following:

On Dec 27, 8:23*pm, Larry Jaques
wrote:

What worries me is that I just heard Toy say something under his
breath about finally finding a way to use his excess sawdust...

I made my first Multi Grain loaf today. There is NO way anybody could
gain weight eating that stuff....not with all the flax seed,
pulverized barbed-wire and other ultra-fibre componenets.

That's quite likely true. I have it under good authority that a piece
of multigrain bread, sharpened at the edges and left to dry for 2
days, will work just as well as OddJob's bowler, with nearly all the
kinetic energy of same.

That said, my favorite bread is Franz' Oregon Hazelnut, a multigrain
bread with nuts. Yuckin' Fummy!

--
"Menja bé, caga fort!"

"Robatoy" wrote in message
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On Dec 27, 12:28 pm, "Leon" wrote:
"Robatoy" wrote in message

...

Theeeeen I scored a Cuisinart Convection Breadmaker.
I know absolutely diddly-squat 'bout those there breadmachines, but it
looks like it could be a hoot.

All breadmakers have one major flaw. They all will make you FAT.

..but, but, but it has recipes for glutton free breads... or am I
reading that wrong?

There is more than one ingredient in bread that will put the weight on you.
Butter? Sugar,?

And more butter on that slice of
FRESH......HOT......FLAVORFUL......DELICIOUS...... ...STUFF from Aunt
Minnie's Potted Livernichol bread recipe. ;~)

On Fri, 25 Dec 2009 11:32:25 -0800, "DGDevin"
wrote:

My wife (who has a keen eye) got me a dust-collection set for my router with
different hoods for different applications, and one of those electric
branding irons so I can sign my projects--a woman like that is a keeper!

The project I did as a Christmas gift for friends was also well-received,
now I'll have to drive up to their place and brand it.

http://www.woodmagazine.com/photos/s...oId=1363400009



I buy my own tools and tell everyone I know I prefer it that way. In
fact, I prefer that I am the only one that knows about my tools and
that nobody ever sees them. I'd be happy to get a warm plaid flannel
shirt as a gift though, even better if it has pocket flaps to keep out
the sawdust.

On Fri, 25 Dec 2009 12:42:35 -0800, "DGDevin"
wrote:


"krw" wrote in message
.. .

One of my pet peeves is women who constantly put their men down
because they can't do anything with their hands.......and bitch
everytime the guy even mentions buying a tool.

Mine never bitches about tools and rarely about unfinished projects
(tracking sawdust into the house is another issue). Good thing,
because I would have given her plenty to bitch about. Maybe there's a
reason we've kept them around (38 years, in my case). ;-)

My wife lavishes praise on everything I build whether it deserves it or not.
She also helps without complaint when I need an extra set of hands to
assemble something. And she not only doesn't object when I buy tools (she
knows any big-ticket item I buy has been heavily researched) but sometimes
she suggests getting something I'm just eye-balling. Imagine being married
to someone who wants to know why we're leaving the Grizzly store without
buying something that plugs into the wall? I must have been a really good
person in a previous life to deserve someone like her....



Very nice to have a helper for a few minutes when cutting 4x8 sheets
of ply. I'll take that over any "gift."

"Larry Jaques" wrote:


Force some multigrain down your
throat and you'll feel warmer and be able to work harder because
it's
_real_food_, Lew.

Anything below 70F is not fit for human habitation, which was a major
reason I left Ohio.

Lew

"Phisherman" wrote:


I'd be happy to get a warm plaid flannel
shirt as a gift though, even better if it has pocket flaps to keep
out
the sawdust

Check out the Chamois shirts from L L Bean, you might like them.

I know I do.

Lew.

"Lew Hodgett" wrote

Anything below 70F is not fit for human habitation, which was a major
reason I left Ohio.

Wimp.

On Mon, 28 Dec 2009 11:13:17 -0800, the infamous "Lew Hodgett"
scrawled the following:


"Larry Jaques" wrote:


Force some multigrain down your
throat and you'll feel warmer and be able to work harder because
it's
_real_food_, Lew.

Anything below 70F is not fit for human habitation, which was a major
reason I left Ohio.

Har! I frequently work outside in 40F weather with a t-shirt and ski
cap on, spring and fall. As a LoCal resident, I was a wimp, like you
are now, pobrecito.

--
"I believe that sex is one of the most beautiful, natural, wholesome things
that money can buy." --Tom Clancy

"Lee Michaels" wrote:

Wimp.

I consider it an intelligent choice.

I finally gave my goose down parka away the other day.

Figured it was safe since I hadn't worn it in 20 years.


Lew

On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 22:25:05 -0600, Dave Balderstone
wrote:

In article , Ed
Pawlowski wrote:

krw wrote:
On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 17:39:22 -0500, "Ed Pawlowski"
wrote:

Sure it does. You still need certain ingredients for a reaction, but
you can get variations by changing the quantities or adding other
indgredients. If you are making bread, you need leavening, but you
can still change other parts of the formula to suit your personal
taste.

Don't expect just any mixture to come out as bread.

I did not say "any mixture", I said you still need certain ingredients to
get the proper chemical reaction. Baking soda, baking powder, yeast, sugar,
salt, buttermilk, shortening, all have a job to do. Keep the proportions in
a reasonable ratio and you can change the other ingredients at will. I've
been changing recipes for decades. You?

I don't think krw has ever actually MADE bread.

I don't "make" anything in the kitchen. SWMBO owns that territory. I
do know that she follows baking recipes to the letter, other than
fillers like nuts. Yes, she makes a lot of bread, or used to. She
killed a "Bread Man" bread maker so we bought a Cuisenart. She
doesn't like it at all so buys bread.

"Leon" wrote in
:


I have had both Panasonic and Makita and they are/were my favorites of
all the other brands I have owned. You may want to give your Mum the
Makita and keep the Panasonic for yourself.


The Makita's got a flashlight and impact driver with the drill. The
Panasonic is just the drill. I'm still keeping my Makitas... The Panasonic
may be better, but it's not that much better.

Puckdropper

Phisherman wrote in
:



I buy my own tools and tell everyone I know I prefer it that way. In
fact, I prefer that I am the only one that knows about my tools and
that nobody ever sees them. I'd be happy to get a warm plaid flannel
shirt as a gift though, even better if it has pocket flaps to keep out
the sawdust.

I asked for some 5" hook and loop sand paper for Christmas, and got a
couple packages from just about everybody. That worked out quite well for
Christmas tools. You never can have too much sand paper, especially when
it takes 2-3 sheets to finish a project.

Didn't get the other tool I asked for, a good quality pencil sharpener.
(Lee Valley's got one for $20.)

Puckdropper