"George" wrote in message
t...

"Mike Marlow" wrote in message
...
Which supports my case. Religion is not different than politics.
Differing
view/allegiances/beliefs, zealots, and human nature underlying it all.
It's
not religion, it's the people in religion. The multiplicity of religion
does not diminish the point. One religion or one hundred thousand, it
still
comes down to human nature. As I said in another post, remove religion
and
humans will still find a way to carry on their antics against one
another.

Hell - just look at what goes on here in a usenet newsgroup. Religion
does
not even have to enter the picture. Look back over the past month of
posts.
You'll see plenty of human nature at work.


I think the psychobabble people call what you're doing "projection." You
ascribe to others the same rigidity you're displaying. They believe, you
believe. Where you differ, you expect them to become enlightened and
accept
your point of view. It's not about the facts, it's about truth, two very
different things. Truth is the personal interpretation of the facts, and
is
often in conflict with them.


Now, that is psychobabble if ever it existed. What's rigid in what I wrote?
I simply said it's the people who cause problems, not institutions such as
religion. Nothing rigid in that. Nothing to project either. You seem to
be the one with the projector George.

--

-Mike-

"J. Clarke" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 13 Dec 2006 14:18:19 -0800, jo4hn wrote:
I believe I've told the story of Mustafa here before, but people seem to
like it so I'll repeat it.

At one time I was an active target shooter. A friend and I had planned a
day at the range. As soon as we got set up, it started to rain. Hard.
One of those rains where the targets turned to mush and you couldn't see
them from the line anyway. So we decided to hang it up and went home.
On the way to the parking area I slipped in the mud. At the time I had
hair down to my ass, beard, etc, most of it not very well maintained.

We got to my place, he went in first, I went after, bringing both our
armamentariums for the purpose of cleaning them. I closed the door, took
three steps, and there came the dreaded knock. I turned, and opened the
door, mud from head to toe, bearded, long haired, unkempt, not in a
particularly good mood, and festooned with a small arsenal. It was the
Witnesses. For some reason the Muse was upon me that day and I turned and
yelled in a mock Middle Eastern accent toward the back of the apartment
"Hey, Mus-ta-FA, want to discuss religion with the infidel?" I turned
around. There was a shoe.

Didn't see another JW again until I had moved to another state halfway
across the country.


Ya know, I was beginning to hope this thread would die off, but after that
story, I'm glad it hasn't.

ROTFLMFAO!

JC

"J. Clarke" wrote in message
...


I believe I've told the story of Mustafa here before, but people seem to
like it so I'll repeat it.

At one time I was an active target shooter. A friend and I had planned a
day at the range. As soon as we got set up, it started to rain. Hard.
One of those rains where the targets turned to mush and you couldn't see
them from the line anyway. So we decided to hang it up and went home.
On the way to the parking area I slipped in the mud. At the time I had
hair down to my ass, beard, etc, most of it not very well maintained.

We got to my place, he went in first, I went after, bringing both our
armamentariums for the purpose of cleaning them. I closed the door, took
three steps, and there came the dreaded knock. I turned, and opened the
door, mud from head to toe, bearded, long haired, unkempt, not in a
particularly good mood, and festooned with a small arsenal. It was the
Witnesses. For some reason the Muse was upon me that day and I turned and
yelled in a mock Middle Eastern accent toward the back of the apartment
"Hey, Mus-ta-FA, want to discuss religion with the infidel?" I turned
around. There was a shoe.

Didn't see another JW again until I had moved to another state halfway
across the country.


Clarke - you are forgiven a large amount of past sins for this. Precious.

--

-Mike-

jo4hn wrote:

me and Britney 2008

Yowsa.... I saw a pic of her moo-moo. Looked kinda like a magician's
sleeve..... or are you talking about the elusive Britney Morseille, the
world famous chocolatiere?

me and Scarlet 2008

George Max (in ) said:

| Being a Mormon could be kinda fun if you get to have multiple wives.
|

Someone once told me that the Chinese ideograph for "trouble" is two
women under one roof.

--
Morris Dovey
DeSoto Solar
DeSoto, Iowa USA
http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto

On Wed, 13 Dec 2006 20:36:19 -0600, "Morris Dovey"
wrote:

George Max (in ) said:

| Being a Mormon could be kinda fun if you get to have multiple wives.
|

Someone once told me that the Chinese ideograph for "trouble" is two
women under one roof.

I've lived long enough to understand that the path to happiness
involves the fewest number of possible women.



Regards,

Tom Watson

tjwatson1ATcomcastDOTnet (real email)

http://home.comcast.net/~tjwatson1/

On Wed, 13 Dec 2006 18:13:42 -0600, Don Fearn wrote:

I think it was "J. Clarke" who stated:

You might want to look up the word "apostacy" in a good dictionary. If
you're a Catholic and you decide to quit being a Catholic and become, say,
a Shinto, then you've committed apostacy, rejecting the church to which
you belong. If you were always a Shinto and stayed a
Shinto then there is no apostacy because you did not reject the teachings
of a church of which you were a member.

So THAT's what I did when I stopped being Lutheran and took up with
the Pastafarians (Bless His Noodly Appendage).

I'm glad you told me about that -- ARRRRRR!


-Don (wondering what this has to do with
woodworking, but not worried 'bout it)

Well, think of all those woodworkers who would be out of jobs without
church pews and altars and Japanese temples and the like to build.
Besides, I believe that Christianity is the only religion whose deity ever
worked as a carpenter.

--
--John
to email, dial "usenet" and validate
(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)

| Being a Mormon could be kinda fun if you get to have multiple wives.
|

Someone once told me that the Chinese ideograph for "trouble" is two
women under one roof.

I've lived long enough to understand that the path to happiness
involves the fewest number of possible women.


The Oak Ridge Boys used to sing a song:

Tryin' to love two women
Is like a ball and chain
Sometimes the pleasure
Ain't worth the strain
Its a long old grind
And it tires yo' mind

Tryin' to please two women
You can't please yourself
The best is only half-good
A man can't stock two shelves
It's a long old grind
And it tires yo' mind

DonkeyHody
Who celebrates 20 years together this year

Upscale :

"Par" wrote in message
into the recipients urethra and creative uses of rodents, and the JWs
left hurridly.

I've got it easier than that. As soon as they see that I'm in a wheelchair,
they apologise for knocking on the wrong door. Up until the first time that
happened, I never realized how prejudicial they are.

Aren't they one of the sects that belive that physical problems stems
from sins, and to be wheelchairbound...

/Par

--
Par
Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from
religious conviction.
-- Blaise Pascal (1623-1662)

Par wrote:
Andy :
I went with the mass-for-stability tactic on the bed I recently made -
lots of solid white oak. Each of the side rails alone weighs about 30
pounds. That can take some serious bumps without so much as a squeak
(no more mental image fodder intended...)

Go for the techiques used by the vibration free instruments crowd: very
heavy surface, on rubber pads (I've even seen a setup lifted by
compressed air jets, but that might disturb your sleep). So, for a bed
an 1 ton marble slab should work, laid down on top of umpteen rubber
pads. Add normal bed parts on top. Don't forget to add felt pads
underneath, or there might be some slight marking of soft wood floors.

/Par



Marble slab resting on inner tubes floating in chilled mineral oil in a
building mounted on springs and shock absorbers anchored to a concrete
slab floating in a pond.

Just about then the train goes by, sounds the horn for the crossing and
you STILL can't sleep through the night!
;-)

Bill

--
I not only use all the brains that I have, but all that I can borrow.

Woodrow Wilson (1856 - 1924)

And twice a day, I still fall short.
Bill in Detroit (1952 - )


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Jim Northey wrote:


What's harder to find the unobtanium wood or the NF virgins? :-)
Jim



Without the wood, what use is the virgin?

Bill


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J T wrote:

Jehovah's Witnesses. LOL I politely told them to get lost. It's
always fun, when you're in the right mood, with nothing better to do, to
bring out a chair, and sit and listen to them. NOT invite them in, not
bring out chairs for them, just sit and listen to them. For some reason
they never visit me anymore. LMAO

You don't make a 'cause and effect' connection between "I politely told
them to get lost." and "For some reason they never visit me anymore."?


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Wed, Dec 13, 2006, 2:03pm (Mike*Marlow) doth
sayeth:
**********Those are only part of the reasons I don't
believe in religion. And the Woodworking Gods are with me 100% on that..
So, if the actions of the individuals of an organization are merit for
dismissing the organization, you must really hate the human race...

You're reading things I didn't say; that seems to happen quite
often. What I said was, I don't believe in religion. Perhaps I should
have also said, for myself. Not a word said about idividuals. I hate
people individually, not because of race, color, creed, or religion -
just if they're a**holess., and that retty much included people of every
race, color, creed, or religion.. Jehovah' Witnesses are not be be
hated, but they do tend to be extremely irritation when they're "on
their mission".



JOAT
Where does Batman buy gas for the Batmobile?

Robatoy wrote:
The JW care about such things? So much for their Christian values.

JW's are NOT Christians. Not even close.

Hmm ... THIS ought to be interesting.

Upon what fact(s) would you base that conclusion?

Bill


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Wed, Dec 13, 2006, 2:17pm (Mike*Marlow) doth
sayeth:
That would be correct. It's the prinicples of the KKK that merit its
dismissal as an organization.snip

You might want to read about some of the history of the KKK.
http://www.iupui.edu/~aao/kkk.html Here is a partial quote of the very
beginnings. Probably nowhere near what you thought.

In fact the beginning of the Klan involved nothing so sinister,
subversive or ancient as the theories supposed. It
was the boredom of small-town life that led six young Confederate
veterans to gather around a fireplace one
December evening in 1865 and form a social club. The place was Pulaski,
Tennessee, near the Alabama border.
When they reassembled a week later, the six young men were full of ideas
for their new society. It would be secret, to heighten the amusement of
the thing, and the titles for the various officers were to have names as
preposterous-sounding as possible, partly for the fun of it and partly
to avoid any military or political implications.



JOAT
Where does Batman buy gas for the Batmobile?

Wed, Dec 13, 2006, 2:18pm (EST-3) (jo4hn) doth
sayeth:
Once upon a time, I owned a Fiat. One of Italy's finest [fill in the
blank]. One cold, misty, and altogether miserable day, snip

Oh yes, those cold days make it hurt just that much worse. Been
thee, done that.

Print out a few of these, for next time.
http://www.dannyhaszard.com/bendover.jpg



JOAT
Where does Batman buy gas for the Batmobile?

Wed, Dec 13, 2006, 4:30pm (EST-1) (George*Max) doth
dream:
Being a Mormon could be kinda fun if you get to have multiple wives.

Maybe. Until they get together and start bitching about you.



JOAT
Where does Batman buy gas for the Batmobile?

Thu, Dec 14, 2006, 12:44am (Bill*in*Detroit) now
queryeth:
Without the wood, what use is the virgin?

You send the virgin, and I'll get back to you on that.



JOAT
Where does Batman buy gas for the Batmobile?

"J T" wrote in message
Wed, Dec 13, 2006, 4:30pm (EST-1) (George Max) doth
dream:
Being a Mormon could be kinda fun if you get to have multiple wives.

Maybe. Until they get together and start bitching about you.

Bitching about you isn't the problem. It's when you're arguing with one of
them and the others automatically join in and they gang up on you as a
group. It's as if a silent bell in a non-existent boxing ring goes off in
their heads and you get mobbed. Gives me nightmares of when I was living
with my mother, my aunt and my sister in my mother's house. That was 17
years ago. I can still distinctly remember the day I moved out and the
feeling of being in my own apartment. It was QUIET and absolutely no one
there to start an argument with. Pure bliss.

In article ,
says...
Once upon a time, I owned a Fiat. One of Italy's finest [fill in the
blank]. One cold, misty, and altogether miserable day, I was under the
car trying to fix something or other. The wrench slipped off the bolt
and I crunched a knuckle or two on some unforgiving piece of steel. Now
I am rubbing dirt and grease into my wounds to staunch the bleeding
while my mouth is expressing my dismay in some of my finest, most
obscene curses of the car, the day and my bad luck. Some motion caught
my eye and I turned to the side to see two pairs of nicely shined shoes
and the bottoms of well pressed trousers. I rolled out from under the
car to snarl at two JWs with eyes like saucers and mouths agape. One
finally found his voice long enough to apologize for their bad timing.
I said something like "no ****, Little Beaver" and they hurried off.
Made the day a little better.
no more Fiats,
jo4hn

Boy, that brings back a few memories. I used to own a Fiat X-1/9.
Beautiful car, loads of fun to drive, but boy, oh boy, there were some
elements of *dumb* design there.

I agree, no more Fiats. FIAT = Fix It Again Today. Fix It Again
Tomorrow.

Which one did you have?

"Upscale" wrote in message
...

"J T" wrote in message
Wed, Dec 13, 2006, 4:30pm (EST-1) (George Max) doth
dream:
Being a Mormon could be kinda fun if you get to have multiple wives.

Maybe. Until they get together and start bitching about you.

Bitching about you isn't the problem. It's when you're arguing with one of
them and the others automatically join in and they gang up on you as a
group. It's as if a silent bell in a non-existent boxing ring goes off in
their heads and you get mobbed. Gives me nightmares of when I was living
with my mother, my aunt and my sister in my mother's house. That was 17
years ago. I can still distinctly remember the day I moved out and the
feeling of being in my own apartment. It was QUIET and absolutely no one
there to start an argument with. Pure bliss.



Medical fact that women living under the same roof gradually synchronize
their cycles. PMS to the what power?

On Thu, 14 Dec 2006 12:10:54 GMT, "George" wrote:


"Upscale" wrote in message
.. .

"J T" wrote in message
Wed, Dec 13, 2006, 4:30pm (EST-1) (George Max) doth
dream:
Being a Mormon could be kinda fun if you get to have multiple wives.

Maybe. Until they get together and start bitching about you.


Medical fact that women living under the same roof gradually synchronize
their cycles. PMS to the what power?

Let's make this solution woodworking related - get 2 houses. Or 3.
One for each wife.

hahaha

On Wed, 13 Dec 2006 17:50:30 -0500, "Upscale"
wrote:


"George Max" wrote in message

I think Tom Cruise is a member of the Church of Scientology, not the
JW.

Yes, you're right. I had Church of Scientology on my mind because I remember
going into one of their buildings near where I live and asking if I could
use their phone and was promptly refused.



Very helpful of them.

On 14 Dec 2006 00:00:08 GMT, "J. Clarke"
wrote:


I believe I've told the story of Mustafa here before, but people seem to
like it so I'll repeat it.

At one time I was an active target shooter. A friend and I had planned a
day at the range. As soon as we got set up, it started to rain. Hard.
One of those rains where the targets turned to mush and you couldn't see
them from the line anyway. So we decided to hang it up and went home.
On the way to the parking area I slipped in the mud. At the time I had
hair down to my ass, beard, etc, most of it not very well maintained.

We got to my place, he went in first, I went after, bringing both our
armamentariums for the purpose of cleaning them. I closed the door, took
three steps, and there came the dreaded knock. I turned, and opened the
door, mud from head to toe, bearded, long haired, unkempt, not in a
particularly good mood, and festooned with a small arsenal. It was the
Witnesses. For some reason the Muse was upon me that day and I turned and
yelled in a mock Middle Eastern accent toward the back of the apartment
"Hey, Mus-ta-FA, want to discuss religion with the infidel?" I turned
around. There was a shoe.

Didn't see another JW again until I had moved to another state halfway
across the country.


OMG! That's SO funny! Thanks.

Doug Miller wrote:
In article ,
says...

Once upon a time, I owned a Fiat. One of Italy's finest [fill in the
blank]. One cold, misty, and altogether miserable day, I was under the
car trying to fix something or other. The wrench slipped off the bolt
and I crunched a knuckle or two on some unforgiving piece of steel. Now
I am rubbing dirt and grease into my wounds to staunch the bleeding
while my mouth is expressing my dismay in some of my finest, most
obscene curses of the car, the day and my bad luck. Some motion caught
my eye and I turned to the side to see two pairs of nicely shined shoes
and the bottoms of well pressed trousers. I rolled out from under the
car to snarl at two JWs with eyes like saucers and mouths agape. One
finally found his voice long enough to apologize for their bad timing.
I said something like "no ****, Little Beaver" and they hurried off.
Made the day a little better.
no more Fiats,
jo4hn


Boy, that brings back a few memories. I used to own a Fiat X-1/9.
Beautiful car, loads of fun to drive, but boy, oh boy, there were some
elements of *dumb* design there.

I agree, no more Fiats. FIAT = Fix It Again Today. Fix It Again
Tomorrow.

Which one did you have?
124 Sport Coupe. Absolutely the best drive I ever had. You want peace,
quiet, reliability? Buy a Toyota. I invested in a shop manual. Stupid
things would break: the valve for the heater leaked coolant on the
passenger side floor, the gas tank filler hose would sporadically spring
a leak, the wiper gear broke, I could clean the jets in the WEBER carb
in about 15 minutes, etc. I got about 50k miles on it before it started
using more oil than gas. Sold it to two brothers who wanted to know if
the tranny was in good shape. Jeeeaaapers.

On the good side, it had a twin OHC engine that was redlined at 8k
(IIRC). Four wheel disk brakes, 5 speed tranny, honest to God bucket
seats. If only it could have held together for a few years. Sigh.

twitch,
jo4hn

George Max wrote:
[snip]

Let's make this solution woodworking related - get 2 houses. Or 3.
One for each wife.


I already did that.

On 14 Dec 2006 12:15:37 -0800, "Robatoy" wrote:


George Max wrote:
[snip]

Let's make this solution woodworking related - get 2 houses. Or 3.
One for each wife.


I already did that.


Nice. Just like that HBO series - "Big Love"

On Sun, 10 Dec 2006 15:11:01 GMT, Nova wrote:

I got a call yesterday where the potential customer was interested in
two three shelf barrister bookcases. She expected to pay about $100
each and wanted them by Christmas. I told her they would be $1500 -
$2000 each and might be ready by Christmas 2007. She went away.

My mom used to do custom sewing. She quoted one lady a price and was
told "I don't understand, I thought it was supposed to be cheaper to
have homemade clothes?".

Some people just don't get it.
--
"We need to make a sacrifice to the gods, find me a young virgin... oh, and bring something to kill"

Tim Douglass

http://www.DouglassClan.com

Doug Miller wrote:

Ahh, yes, the good old JWs. They usually don't stick around long after we tell
them we're Roman Catholic. At our previous house, the crucifix (hand-carved by
my FIL, by the way -- obligatory woodworking content) hanging on the living
room wall was clearly visible from the front door. Their visits were typically
very, very short.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6184477.stm


--
If Jesus Christ were to come today, people would not even crucify him.
They would ask him to dinner, and hear what he had to say, and make fun
of it.
Thomas Carlyle (1795 - 1881)


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Upscale wrote:
"Par" wrote in message
into the recipients urethra and creative uses of rodents, and the JWs
left hurridly.

I've got it easier than that. As soon as they see that I'm in a wheelchair,
they apologise for knocking on the wrong door. Up until the first time that
happened, I never realized how prejudicial they are.

So ...how many times has that happened?

And why did you assume that they were prejudiced?

Bill


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George Max wrote:
On Wed, 13 Dec 2006 07:58:04 -0500, "Upscale"
wrote:

"Par" wrote in message
into the recipients urethra and creative uses of rodents, and the JWs
left hurridly.
I've got it easier than that. As soon as they see that I'm in a wheelchair,
they apologise for knocking on the wrong door. Up until the first time that
happened, I never realized how prejudicial they are.



The JW care about such things? So much for their Christian values.

George, you would pass judgment on over 6 million people on the
testimony of one man whom you've likely never met and most likely never
will?

Bill


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Par wrote:
Aren't they one of the sects that belive that physical problems stems
from sins, and to be wheelchairbound...

/Par


No. I think you are referring to the Pastafarians.


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(J T) wrote in news:538-458032CC-15@storefull-
3335.bay.webtv.net:

Wed, Dec 13, 2006, 11:22am (Upscale) doth sayeth:
I believe they're only interested in people that can contribute to their
organization and don't have anything to do with people who they believe
might need some form of support. They must have been jumping with joyful
bliss when they got their hooks into Tom Cruise.

So you can't contribute? What happens then when one of 'em gets
sick, and needs support? They kick their asses out, or just take 'em on
to the back forty, shoot 'em, and bury 'em? Doesn't make sense. So Tom
Cruise joined them? I thought he'd just gone nuts. Maybe the same
thing.

Those are only part of the reasons I don't believe in religion.
And the Woodworking Gods are with me 100% on that..



JOAT
Where does Batman buy gas for the Batmobile?



Learn something about the witnesses before you shoot your learned mouth
off. Don't be like the asshole Upscale who doesn't know a Witness from a
Scientologist. Witnesses will come to your door (like Mormons) and offer
you handouts, but NEVER ask you for money. People can take lessons from
them as far as family values are concerned. Keep tickling your prostate.
Regards,
Hank

"George" wrote in
t:


"Mike Marlow" wrote in message
...
Which supports my case. Religion is not different than politics.
Differing
view/allegiances/beliefs, zealots, and human nature underlying it
all. It's
not religion, it's the people in religion. The multiplicity of
religion does not diminish the point. One religion or one hundred
thousand, it still
comes down to human nature. As I said in another post, remove
religion and
humans will still find a way to carry on their antics against one
another.

Hell - just look at what goes on here in a usenet newsgroup.
Religion does
not even have to enter the picture. Look back over the past month of
posts.
You'll see plenty of human nature at work.


I think the psychobabble people call what you're doing "projection."
You ascribe to others the same rigidity you're displaying. They
believe, you believe. Where you differ, you expect them to become
enlightened and accept your point of view. It's not about the facts,
it's about truth, two very different things. Truth is the personal
interpretation of the facts, and is often in conflict with them.


George,
I am usually in agreement with you, but WTF are you talking about? I've
tried to understand your response to Mike, but I'm kind of baffled as to
your meaning.
Hank

Don Fearn wrote in
:

I think it was "J. Clarke" who stated:

You might want to look up the word "apostacy" in a good dictionary.
If you're a Catholic and you decide to quit being a Catholic and
become, say, a Shinto, then you've committed apostacy, rejecting the
church to which you belong. If you were always a Shinto and stayed a
Shinto then there is no apostacy because you did not reject the
teachings of a church of which you were a member.

So THAT's what I did when I stopped being Lutheran and took up with
the Pastafarians (Bless His Noodly Appendage).

I'm glad you told me about that -- ARRRRRR!


-Don (wondering what this has to do with
woodworking, but not worried 'bout it)

What made you think this is a woodworking forum? You can only ask so many
"what router should I buy", "left tilt or right tilt", "what project should
I start my son on", what's the best table, band, jig, miter, or circular
saw; state "Rigid and Ryobi sucks", you can't do decent work with a
Crapsman or (heaven forbid) anything from HF and answer the same.
Nah this is a forum for folks (and I am one of them) that can't get their
opinions or beliefs seen, read or heard anywhere else. Kind of like a
chamber for the insignificant.
I understand why the truly talented are declining to participate.
Hank

"Robatoy" wrote in
oups.com:


George Max wrote:
On Wed, 13 Dec 2006 07:58:04 -0500, "Upscale"
wrote:


"Par" wrote in message
into the recipients urethra and creative uses of rodents, and the
JWs left hurridly.

I've got it easier than that. As soon as they see that I'm in a
wheelchair, they apologise for knocking on the wrong door. Up until
the first time that happened, I never realized how prejudicial they
are.



The JW care about such things? So much for their Christian values.

JW's are NOT Christians. Not even close.



What are they?

jo4hn wrote in
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Doug Miller wrote:
In article ,
says...

Once upon a time, I owned a Fiat. One of Italy's finest [fill in the
blank]. One cold, misty, and altogether miserable day, I was under
the car trying to fix something or other. The wrench slipped off the
bolt and I crunched a knuckle or two on some unforgiving piece of
steel. Now I am rubbing dirt and grease into my wounds to staunch
the bleeding while my mouth is expressing my dismay in some of my
finest, most obscene curses of the car, the day and my bad luck.
Some motion caught my eye and I turned to the side to see two pairs
of nicely shined shoes and the bottoms of well pressed trousers. I
rolled out from under the car to snarl at two JWs with eyes like
saucers and mouths agape. One finally found his voice long enough to
apologize for their bad timing. I said something like "no ****,
Little Beaver" and they hurried off. Made the day a little better.
no more Fiats,
jo4hn


Boy, that brings back a few memories. I used to own a Fiat X-1/9.
Beautiful car, loads of fun to drive, but boy, oh boy, there were
some elements of *dumb* design there.

I agree, no more Fiats. FIAT = Fix It Again Today. Fix It Again
Tomorrow.

Which one did you have?
124 Sport Coupe. Absolutely the best drive I ever had. You want
peace, quiet, reliability? Buy a Toyota. I invested in a shop
manual. Stupid things would break: the valve for the heater leaked
coolant on the passenger side floor, the gas tank filler hose would
sporadically spring a leak, the wiper gear broke, I could clean the
jets in the WEBER carb in about 15 minutes, etc. I got about 50k
miles on it before it started using more oil than gas. Sold it to two
brothers who wanted to know if the tranny was in good shape.
Jeeeaaapers.

On the good side, it had a twin OHC engine that was redlined at 8k
(IIRC). Four wheel disk brakes, 5 speed tranny, honest to God bucket
seats. If only it could have held together for a few years. Sigh.

twitch,
jo4hn


Mine did (a '78'), but then I knew how to drive it and how to fix it. Got
a bunch of little statues to prove it (SCAA even though they ****ed up
the class).

"Henry St.Pierre" wrote in message
Nah this is a forum for folks (and I am one of them) that can't get their
opinions or beliefs seen, read or heard anywhere else. Kind of like a
chamber for the insignificant.

Which explains fully why you're participating. Your lack of contribution in
any other way forces you to try and be heard here. My condolences.

"Upscale" wrote in
:


"Par" wrote in message
into the recipients urethra and creative uses of rodents, and the JWs
left hurridly.

I've got it easier than that. As soon as they see that I'm in a
wheelchair, they apologise for knocking on the wrong door. Up until
the first time that happened, I never realized how prejudicial they
are.




My mother and my sister are JWs. My mother is 89 and my sister is 63. I
don't follow their teaching or their belief, but I've met very many
witnesses. It amazes me me how industrious and family oriented they are.
They are totally color blind. They will serve in the armed forces, but
have a problem with blood transfusions if they are wounded. Some will
accept plasma, but not whole blood. I wonder how many other sects or
'religions' are color blind or really believe in family or working for
their needs or helping each other. I don't think JWs ever go on welfare.
I've never heard of them asking for money or insisting you listen to
them. Awhile ago, one of us wonderful woodworkers (probably a good
Christian, but not a liberal because liberals are wonderful to everybody
and hate Christians) threatened to sic his dogs on any JWs that knocked
on his door. I responded with my feelings, and you can take this to the
bank and use it at my trial, if anyone ever put their dogs on or harmed
my mother or sister in anyway, they would meet a very unpleasant end.
So Mr.Upscale, you are in a wheelchair. Does that make you special or
does it make other people uncomfortable? I can't see why a JW or Catholic
or Protestant or Mormon or Budhist or Hindu or Jew or Muslim or follower
of the Great Spirit Manitou or Pagan would apologise for knocking on your
door and offering literature. I left a few out, but the last person to
reject or be prejudiced towards a person in a wheelchair would be a JW or
perhaps a follower of the great spirit.
Being in a wheelchair isn't fun. I spent some time in one awhile ago. I
got three holes in one leg, but only got one heart. Some guys got all the
luck and never missed a day of work.
Hank

"Upscale" wrote in
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"Par" wrote in message
into the recipients urethra and creative uses of rodents, and the JWs
left hurridly.

I've got it easier than that. As soon as they see that I'm in a
wheelchair, they apologise for knocking on the wrong door. Up until
the first time that happened, I never realized how prejudicial they
are.




Upscale, this is not for you.
It's for the good Americans (and a few (very few) Canadians) and
Christians. Does your attitude extend to Jews and Seventh Day adventists
also? How about Mormons? Gee I'm proud of you all. Maybe sic the dogs on
them... how about camps or ovens? I wonder where Doug, the protector of
high ideals is, where is the rest of the conservative camp like Mark and
Juanita? How about Fred and his cohorts from the left? Where's Morris on
this?
Clark surprised me. He's usually takes a high road. JT was at his usual.
Fondest regards,
Hank