John Williamson wrote:
Lieutenant Scott wrote:
On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 15:21:24 -0000, John Williamson
wrote:

Lieutenant Scott wrote:
On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 15:05:12 -0000, John Williamson
wrote:

Lieutenant Scott wrote:
On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 01:12:58 +0100, John Williamson
wrote:

Lieutenant Scott wrote:

As it happens, practitioners of certain trades *are*
taught how to open
and close the doors under their control safely.

You mean mentally retarded people? Most people can operate
a door without even thinking about it.

No, I mean people with degrees like yours. Also train drivers
and guards.

Anyone over the age of 6 can open a door.

Yet again, you expose your total ignorance of the real world.

Are you admitting you can't open a door?

Depends on the door in question.

Whereas you, of course, with your massive intellect would immediately
know without training how and when to safely open and close all the
doors on an aircraft, including the freight hatches, and how to check
that it is safe to take off.

Or, sitting at the controls of a passenger train, would know without
training whether it was safe to leave the station, and what to do in
the event of a problem with the train doors.

Or how to safely close the door in a watertight bulkhead of a ship, so
that it remained watertight in the event of a hull breach.

Do you have problems putting
food in your mouth too?

Less than most.

Do you have a helper?

No, although I often help those with "learning difficulties", whose
behaviour often shows more intelligence than your writings here.

Scotty is the sort of bloke that would turn up on site and start drilling
the asbestos. But it's alright as he is not a sissy.

--
Adam

On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 15:21:24 -0000, John Williamson wrote:

Lieutenant Scott wrote:
On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 15:05:12 -0000, John Williamson
wrote:

Lieutenant Scott wrote:
On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 01:12:58 +0100, John Williamson
wrote:

Lieutenant Scott wrote:

As it happens, practitioners of certain trades *are* taught how to open
and close the doors under their control safely.

You mean mentally retarded people? Most people can operate a door
without even thinking about it.

No, I mean people with degrees like yours. Also train drivers and guards.

Anyone over the age of 6 can open a door.

Yet again, you expose your total ignorance of the real world.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCYZZ...ture=endscreen

Cool, someone in a job that ISN'T overrun with health and safety rules - no harnesses!

I guess they will welcome LED lighting, no changing that ****ing bulb every 5 minutes!

I wonder why they blotted out the other guy's face?

--
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http://petersphotos.com

I want to lie shipwrecked and comatose
Drinking fresh mango juice
With goldfish shoals nibbling round my toes
Fun in the sun

In article op.wmv816bhytk5n5@i7-940, Lieutenant Scott
scribeth thus
On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 14:26:00 -0000, tony sayer wrote:

In article op.wmv63cffytk5n5@i7-940, Lieutenant Scott
scribeth thus
On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 11:03:59 -0000, tony sayer wrote:

In article op.wmusaui2ytk5n5@i7-940, Lieutenant Scott
scribeth thus
On Sat, 27 Oct 2012 20:25:15 +0100, John Williamson

om wrote:

Lieutenant Scott wrote:

Just remind us of your address, so we can mark the house down as
probably lethal should it come onto the market.

If you want to be a sissy, by all means change the house when you buy it.


Its nothing ay all about being a "sissy" due to your disregard of
safety -you- can endanger someone's else's life and health.

Being afraid of dangerous things is being a sissy. That's what the word
means.


I know what the word means .. I wonder if you really do...

If you don't think it means what I just said it does, then state your meaning.


For the benefit of the feeble minded ..

Safety is nothing to do with being "sissy" or not. If you want to take
an unnecessary risk that put's your life at risk then fine.

However by doing that you can endanger someone else's safety.
I'm certainly glad that I don't have to work where you do...

--
Tony Sayer

On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 15:44:42 -0000, John Williamson wrote:

Lieutenant Scott wrote:
On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 15:19:45 -0000, John Williamson
wrote:

Lieutenant Scott wrote:
On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 14:26:00 -0000, tony sayer
wrote:

In article op.wmv63cffytk5n5@i7-940, Lieutenant Scott


I know what the word means .. I wonder if you really do...

If you don't think it means what I just said it does, then state your
meaning.

(Collins online dictionary)
sissy, cissy [ˈsɪsɪ]
n pl -sies
an effeminate, weak, or cowardly boy or man

Being afraid of dangerous things is commonly known as "being sensible".

Not being afraid of dangerous things is commonly known as "being
stupid", or "being suicidal", depending on just how dangerous they are.

COWARDLY. From your own paste.

Coward: One who shows ignoble fear in the face of danger or pain.

Relevance to this thread - Zero.

Your capability to understand a change of topic during a conversation - zero.

--
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http://petersphotos.com

A van carrying a dozen movie stunt men on the way to a film location in the mountains spun out of control on the icy road,
crashed through a guardrail, rolled down a 90-foot embankment, turned over, and burst into flames.
There were no injuries.

On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 15:45:43 -0000, charles wrote:

In article op.wmuwhcn2ytk5n5@i7-940,
Lieutenant Scott wrote:

[Snip]

Lifting something is not rocket science. Neither is climbing a ladder,
which people seem to think also requires a course.

Climbing a ladder in itself is not a problem. Fixing it at the right angle
and on a firm footing might need tuiton.

Or basic common sense.

Working off a ladder is another matter altogether.

More common sense.

--
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http://petersphotos.com

"You, you, and you ... Panic. The rest of you, come with me."
- U.S. Marine Corp Gunnery Sgt.

On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 15:53:22 -0000, John Williamson wrote:

Lieutenant Scott wrote:
On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 15:21:24 -0000, John Williamson
wrote:

Lieutenant Scott wrote:
On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 15:05:12 -0000, John Williamson
wrote:

Lieutenant Scott wrote:



No, I mean people with degrees like yours. Also train drivers and
guards.

Anyone over the age of 6 can open a door.

Yet again, you expose your total ignorance of the real world.

Are you admitting you can't open a door?

Depends on the door in question.

Whereas you, of course, with your massive intellect would immediately
know without training how and when to safely open and close all the
doors on an aircraft, including the freight hatches, and how to check
that it is safe to take off.

Or, sitting at the controls of a passenger train, would know without
training whether it was safe to leave the station, and what to do in the
event of a problem with the train doors.

Or how to safely close the door in a watertight bulkhead of a ship, so
that it remained watertight in the event of a hull breach.

You know very well I was referring to everyday doors earlier.

Even so, the ones you listed aren't exactly rocket science.

Do you have problems putting
food in your mouth too?

Less than most.

Do you have a helper?

No, although I often help those with "learning difficulties", whose
behaviour often shows more intelligence than your writings here.

Childish remark ignored.

--
http://petersparrots.com
http://petersphotos.com

Two cowboys are riding along a trail in the mountains when they suddenly hear tom toms beating very close to them.
"Oh! That doesn't sound good," one says to the other.
As soon as the words were spoken, an Indian jumps out from behind a tree and said, "Yeah, our regular drummer is out sick."

On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 16:35:04 -0000, ARW wrote:

John Williamson wrote:
Lieutenant Scott wrote:
On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 15:21:24 -0000, John Williamson
wrote:

Lieutenant Scott wrote:
On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 15:05:12 -0000, John Williamson
wrote:

Lieutenant Scott wrote:
On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 01:12:58 +0100, John Williamson
wrote:

Lieutenant Scott wrote:

As it happens, practitioners of certain trades *are*
taught how to open
and close the doors under their control safely.

You mean mentally retarded people? Most people can operate
a door without even thinking about it.

No, I mean people with degrees like yours. Also train drivers
and guards.

Anyone over the age of 6 can open a door.

Yet again, you expose your total ignorance of the real world.

Are you admitting you can't open a door?

Depends on the door in question.

Whereas you, of course, with your massive intellect would immediately
know without training how and when to safely open and close all the
doors on an aircraft, including the freight hatches, and how to check
that it is safe to take off.

Or, sitting at the controls of a passenger train, would know without
training whether it was safe to leave the station, and what to do in
the event of a problem with the train doors.

Or how to safely close the door in a watertight bulkhead of a ship, so
that it remained watertight in the event of a hull breach.

Do you have problems putting
food in your mouth too?

Less than most.

Do you have a helper?

No, although I often help those with "learning difficulties", whose
behaviour often shows more intelligence than your writings here.

Scotty is the sort of bloke that would turn up on site and start drilling
the asbestos. But it's alright as he is not a sissy.

But I'd be fine in a high vis jacket - they protect you from anything......

--
http://petersparrots.com
http://petersphotos.com

A dyslexic man walks into a bra.

On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 15:58:32 -0000, ARW wrote:

Lieutenant Scott wrote:
On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 15:05:12 -0000, John Williamson
wrote:
Lieutenant Scott wrote:
On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 01:12:58 +0100, John Williamson
wrote:

Lieutenant Scott wrote:
Lifting something is not rocket science. Neither is climbing
a ladder, which people seem to think also requires a course.
There'll be a course on how to open a door next.

As it happens, practitioners of certain trades *are* taught how
to open and close the doors under their control safely.

You mean mentally retarded people? Most people can operate a door
without even thinking about it.

No, I mean people with degrees like yours. Also train drivers and
guards.

Anyone over the age of 6 can open a door.

Do they do training on how to eat a sandwich too?

There rules on some sites as to where you can eat a sandwich.

An operating theatre perhaps. But that's common sense.

--
http://petersparrots.com
http://petersphotos.com

A dyslexic man walks into a bra.

On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 16:06:48 -0000, ARW wrote:

Lieutenant Scott wrote:
On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 11:03:59 -0000, tony sayer
wrote:
In article op.wmusaui2ytk5n5@i7-940, Lieutenant Scott
scribeth thus
On Sat, 27 Oct 2012 20:25:15 +0100, John Williamson
om wrote:

Lieutenant Scott wrote:

I can not and will not tolerate safety.

Just remind us of your address, so we can mark the house down as
probably lethal should it come onto the market.

If you want to be a sissy, by all means change the house when you
buy it.

Its nothing ay all about being a "sissy" due to your disregard of
safety -you- can endanger someone's else's life and health.

Being afraid of dangerous things is being a sissy. That's what the
word means.

Have you been cleaning windows in Bath recently?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20105872

You do have to take risks in life - even crossing the road is a calculated
risk.

Well the bloke is still alive, so he's obviously good at climbing. I wouldn't do that myself as I'm not that agile. But I would if I had his abilities.

It is pathetic the way they call it an "incident". The incident has not happened, he has not fallen.

--
http://petersparrots.com
http://petersphotos.com

What happens if you install windows 98 on a system with 2 processors?
It crashes twice.

Lieutenant Scott wrote:
On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 15:58:32 -0000, ARW
wrote:
Lieutenant Scott wrote:
On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 15:05:12 -0000, John Williamson
wrote:
Lieutenant Scott wrote:
On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 01:12:58 +0100, John Williamson
wrote:

Lieutenant Scott wrote:
Lifting something is not rocket science. Neither is
climbing a ladder, which people seem to think also
requires a course. There'll be a course on how to open a
door next.
As it happens, practitioners of certain trades *are* taught
how to open and close the doors under their control safely.

You mean mentally retarded people? Most people can operate a
door without even thinking about it.

No, I mean people with degrees like yours. Also train drivers
and guards.

Anyone over the age of 6 can open a door.

Do they do training on how to eat a sandwich too?

There rules on some sites as to where you can eat a sandwich.

An operating theatre perhaps. But that's common sense.

And building sites.

But you have never been on one have you?

--
Adam

Lieutenant Scott wrote:
On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 16:06:48 -0000, ARW
wrote:
Lieutenant Scott wrote:
On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 11:03:59 -0000, tony sayer
wrote:
In article op.wmusaui2ytk5n5@i7-940, Lieutenant Scott
scribeth thus
On Sat, 27 Oct 2012 20:25:15 +0100, John Williamson
om wrote:

Lieutenant Scott wrote:

I can not and will not tolerate safety.

Just remind us of your address, so we can mark the house
down as probably lethal should it come onto the market.

If you want to be a sissy, by all means change the house when
you buy it.

Its nothing ay all about being a "sissy" due to your disregard
of safety -you- can endanger someone's else's life and health.

Being afraid of dangerous things is being a sissy. That's what
the word means.

Have you been cleaning windows in Bath recently?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20105872

You do have to take risks in life - even crossing the road is a
calculated risk.

Well the bloke is still alive, so he's obviously good at climbing. I
wouldn't do that myself as I'm not that agile. But I would if I had
his abilities.
It is pathetic the way they call it an "incident". The incident has
not happened, he has not fallen.

Considering some of the dangerous and stupid things I have done at work (and
also when not at work) then I am probably not the right person to give
advice about H&S.

But I do know how to behave on a building site.

--
Adam

On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 17:23:56 -0000, tony sayer wrote:

In article op.wmv816bhytk5n5@i7-940, Lieutenant Scott
scribeth thus
On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 14:26:00 -0000, tony sayer wrote:

In article op.wmv63cffytk5n5@i7-940, Lieutenant Scott
scribeth thus
On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 11:03:59 -0000, tony sayer wrote:

In article op.wmusaui2ytk5n5@i7-940, Lieutenant Scott
scribeth thus






Its nothing ay all about being a "sissy" due to your disregard of
safety -you- can endanger someone's else's life and health.

Being afraid of dangerous things is being a sissy. That's what the word
means.


I know what the word means .. I wonder if you really do...

If you don't think it means what I just said it does, then state your meaning.


For the benefit of the feeble minded ..

Safety is nothing to do with being "sissy" or not. If you want to take
an unnecessary risk that put's your life at risk then fine.

However by doing that you can endanger someone else's safety.
I'm certainly glad that I don't have to work where you do...

But a lot of health and safety is about protecting YOURSELF. This is ludicrous.

And if someone else does something that you consider dangerous to yourself, you are free to resign.

--
http://petersparrots.com
http://petersphotos.com

G.A.Y. - Got Aids Yet?

On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 17:52:35 -0000, ARW wrote:

Lieutenant Scott wrote:
On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 15:58:32 -0000, ARW
wrote:
Lieutenant Scott wrote:
On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 15:05:12 -0000, John Williamson
wrote:
Lieutenant Scott wrote:
On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 01:12:58 +0100, John Williamson
wrote:

Lieutenant Scott wrote:
Lifting something is not rocket science. Neither is
climbing a ladder, which people seem to think also
requires a course. There'll be a course on how to open a
door next.
As it happens, practitioners of certain trades *are* taught
how to open and close the doors under their control safely.

You mean mentally retarded people? Most people can operate a
door without even thinking about it.

No, I mean people with degrees like yours. Also train drivers
and guards.

Anyone over the age of 6 can open a door.

Do they do training on how to eat a sandwich too?

There rules on some sites as to where you can eat a sandwich.

An operating theatre perhaps. But that's common sense.

And building sites.

But you have never been on one have you?

Yes eating a sandwich on a building site is really dangerous..... what planet are you on?

--
http://petersparrots.com
http://petersphotos.com

I consider exercise vulgar. It makes people smell.

On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 18:02:11 -0000, ARW wrote:

Lieutenant Scott wrote:
On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 16:06:48 -0000, ARW
wrote:
Lieutenant Scott wrote:
On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 11:03:59 -0000, tony sayer
wrote:
In article op.wmusaui2ytk5n5@i7-940, Lieutenant Scott
scribeth thus
On Sat, 27 Oct 2012 20:25:15 +0100, John Williamson
om wrote:

Lieutenant Scott wrote:

I can not and will not tolerate safety.

Just remind us of your address, so we can mark the house
down as probably lethal should it come onto the market.

If you want to be a sissy, by all means change the house when
you buy it.

Its nothing ay all about being a "sissy" due to your disregard
of safety -you- can endanger someone's else's life and health.

Being afraid of dangerous things is being a sissy. That's what
the word means.

Have you been cleaning windows in Bath recently?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20105872

You do have to take risks in life - even crossing the road is a
calculated risk.

Well the bloke is still alive, so he's obviously good at climbing. I
wouldn't do that myself as I'm not that agile. But I would if I had
his abilities.
It is pathetic the way they call it an "incident". The incident has
not happened, he has not fallen.

Considering some of the dangerous and stupid things I have done at work (and
also when not at work) then I am probably not the right person to give
advice about H&S.

List them. Then explain why you are taking the opposite view.

But I do know how to behave on a building site.

To shut up the **** with the clipboard?

--
http://petersparrots.com
http://petersphotos.com

Black holes are where god divided by zero.

In article op.wmwh14tlytk5n5@i7-940,
Lieutenant Scott wrote:

[Snip]

For the benefit of the feeble minded ..

Safety is nothing to do with being "sissy" or not. If you want to take
an unnecessary risk that put's your life at risk then fine.

However by doing that you can endanger someone else's safety.
I'm certainly glad that I don't have to work where you do...

But a lot of health and safety is about protecting YOURSELF. This is
ludicrous.

and a lot more is about protecting others.

And if someone else does something that you consider dangerous to
yourself, you are free to resign.

resign from what?

--
From KT24

Using a RISC OS computer running v5.18

On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 18:30:06 -0000, charles wrote:

In article op.wmwh14tlytk5n5@i7-940,
Lieutenant Scott wrote:

[Snip]

For the benefit of the feeble minded ..

Safety is nothing to do with being "sissy" or not. If you want to take
an unnecessary risk that put's your life at risk then fine.

However by doing that you can endanger someone else's safety.
I'm certainly glad that I don't have to work where you do...

But a lot of health and safety is about protecting YOURSELF. This is
ludicrous.

and a lot more is about protecting others.

A bit maybe, but most of it, and the ones that are most annoying, are about protecting yourself.

And if someone else does something that you consider dangerous to
yourself, you are free to resign.

resign from what?

The job you're scarewd of.

--
http://petersparrots.com
http://petersphotos.com

You can't convince a believer of anything; for their belief is not based on evidence, it's based on a deep-seated need to believe. -- Carl Sagan

Lieutenant Scott wrote:
On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 17:52:35 -0000, ARW
wrote:
Lieutenant Scott wrote:
On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 15:58:32 -0000, ARW
wrote:
Lieutenant Scott wrote:
On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 15:05:12 -0000, John Williamson
wrote:
Lieutenant Scott wrote:
On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 01:12:58 +0100, John Williamson
wrote:

Lieutenant Scott wrote:
Lifting something is not rocket science. Neither is
climbing a ladder, which people seem to think also
requires a course. There'll be a course on how to
open a door next.
As it happens, practitioners of certain trades *are*
taught how to open and close the doors under their
control safely.

You mean mentally retarded people? Most people can
operate a door without even thinking about it.

No, I mean people with degrees like yours. Also train
drivers and guards.

Anyone over the age of 6 can open a door.

Do they do training on how to eat a sandwich too?

There rules on some sites as to where you can eat a sandwich.

An operating theatre perhaps. But that's common sense.

And building sites.

But you have never been on one have you?

Yes eating a sandwich on a building site is really dangerous.....
what planet are you on?

I am on the same planet as John Williamson - although we do not always see
eye to eye on what is always acceptable behaviour on a building site we can
both spot a pillock. ie you

The H&S guys on site are always reasonable. And there are always rules no1
and no 2 for you to follow.

Rule no 1. The H&S guy is always correct
Rule no 2. If the H&S guy is incorrect refer to rule no 1

And I'll bet John knows why there are rules on where you can and cannot eat
a sandwich when working on some building sites.

It seems you do not have a clue about such things. That's why we have H&S
people on some sites.

--
Adam

Lieutenant Scott wrote:
On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 18:02:11 -0000, ARW
wrote:
Lieutenant Scott wrote:
On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 16:06:48 -0000, ARW
wrote:
Lieutenant Scott wrote:
On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 11:03:59 -0000, tony sayer
wrote:
In article op.wmusaui2ytk5n5@i7-940, Lieutenant Scott
scribeth thus
On Sat, 27 Oct 2012 20:25:15 +0100, John Williamson
om wrote:

Lieutenant Scott wrote:

I can not and will not tolerate safety.

Just remind us of your address, so we can mark the house
down as probably lethal should it come onto the market.

If you want to be a sissy, by all means change the house
when you buy it.

Its nothing ay all about being a "sissy" due to your
disregard of safety -you- can endanger someone's else's
life and health.

Being afraid of dangerous things is being a sissy. That's
what the word means.

Have you been cleaning windows in Bath recently?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20105872

You do have to take risks in life - even crossing the road is a
calculated risk.

Well the bloke is still alive, so he's obviously good at
climbing. I wouldn't do that myself as I'm not that agile. But
I would if I had his abilities.
It is pathetic the way they call it an "incident". The incident
has not happened, he has not fallen.

Considering some of the dangerous and stupid things I have done at
work (and also when not at work) then I am probably not the right
person to give advice about H&S.

List them. Then explain why you are taking the opposite view.

That would be a long list.

The reason I take the opposite view is that there is a 100% chance that
anything you say is incorrect.

--
Adam

On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 18:51:55 -0000, ARW wrote:

Lieutenant Scott wrote:
On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 18:02:11 -0000, ARW
wrote:
Lieutenant Scott wrote:
On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 16:06:48 -0000, ARW
wrote:
Lieutenant Scott wrote:
On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 11:03:59 -0000, tony sayer
wrote:
In article op.wmusaui2ytk5n5@i7-940, Lieutenant Scott
scribeth thus
On Sat, 27 Oct 2012 20:25:15 +0100, John Williamson
om wrote:

Lieutenant Scott wrote:

I can not and will not tolerate safety.

Just remind us of your address, so we can mark the house
down as probably lethal should it come onto the market.

If you want to be a sissy, by all means change the house
when you buy it.

Its nothing ay all about being a "sissy" due to your
disregard of safety -you- can endanger someone's else's
life and health.

Being afraid of dangerous things is being a sissy. That's
what the word means.

Have you been cleaning windows in Bath recently?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20105872

You do have to take risks in life - even crossing the road is a
calculated risk.

Well the bloke is still alive, so he's obviously good at
climbing. I wouldn't do that myself as I'm not that agile. But
I would if I had his abilities.
It is pathetic the way they call it an "incident". The incident
has not happened, he has not fallen.

Considering some of the dangerous and stupid things I have done at
work (and also when not at work) then I am probably not the right
person to give advice about H&S.

List them. Then explain why you are taking the opposite view.

That would be a long list.

List the most interesting ones.

The reason I take the opposite view is that there is a 100% chance that
anything you say is incorrect.

That's a little silly. If I told you the earth was round, you would say it was flat?

--
http://petersparrots.com
http://petersphotos.com

Do you know what a Jewish dilemma is?
Free ham.

On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 18:45:22 -0000, ARW wrote:

Lieutenant Scott wrote:
On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 17:52:35 -0000, ARW
wrote:
Lieutenant Scott wrote:
On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 15:58:32 -0000, ARW
wrote:
Lieutenant Scott wrote:
On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 15:05:12 -0000, John Williamson
wrote:
Lieutenant Scott wrote:
On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 01:12:58 +0100, John Williamson
wrote:

Lieutenant Scott wrote:
Lifting something is not rocket science. Neither is
climbing a ladder, which people seem to think also
requires a course. There'll be a course on how to
open a door next.
As it happens, practitioners of certain trades *are*
taught how to open and close the doors under their
control safely.

You mean mentally retarded people? Most people can
operate a door without even thinking about it.

No, I mean people with degrees like yours. Also train
drivers and guards.

Anyone over the age of 6 can open a door.

Do they do training on how to eat a sandwich too?

There rules on some sites as to where you can eat a sandwich.

An operating theatre perhaps. But that's common sense.

And building sites.

But you have never been on one have you?

Yes eating a sandwich on a building site is really dangerous.....
what planet are you on?

I am on the same planet as John Williamson - although we do not always see
eye to eye on what is always acceptable behaviour on a building site we can
both spot a pillock. ie you

The H&S guys on site are always reasonable. And there are always rules no1
and no 2 for you to follow.

Rule no 1. The H&S guy is always correct
Rule no 2. If the H&S guy is incorrect refer to rule no 1

The H&S guy is a ****** who doesn't actually build anything. He needs to be shot. He is a dead weight.

And I'll bet John knows why there are rules on where you can and cannot eat
a sandwich when working on some building sites.

It seems you do not have a clue about such things. That's why we have H&S
people on some sites.

I awaited with baited breath the nonsense rule you will come up with.

--
http://petersparrots.com
http://petersphotos.com

Uncle Larry was smoking in a restaurant the other day when a guy came up to him and said, "That smoke's bothering me."
Larry said, "Well, it's killing me. If I don't care about what it's doing to me, why would I give a **** what it's doing to you?"

Lieutenant Scott wrote:
On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 18:51:55 -0000, ARW
wrote:
Lieutenant Scott wrote:
On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 18:02:11 -0000, ARW
wrote:
Lieutenant Scott wrote:
On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 16:06:48 -0000, ARW
wrote:
Lieutenant Scott wrote:
On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 11:03:59 -0000, tony sayer
wrote:
In article op.wmusaui2ytk5n5@i7-940, Lieutenant Scott
scribeth thus
On Sat, 27 Oct 2012 20:25:15 +0100, John Williamson
om wrote:

Lieutenant Scott wrote:

I can not and will not tolerate safety.

Just remind us of your address, so we can mark the
house down as probably lethal should it come onto
the market.

If you want to be a sissy, by all means change the
house when you buy it.

Its nothing ay all about being a "sissy" due to your
disregard of safety -you- can endanger someone's else's
life and health.

Being afraid of dangerous things is being a sissy. That's
what the word means.

Have you been cleaning windows in Bath recently?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20105872

You do have to take risks in life - even crossing the road
is a calculated risk.

Well the bloke is still alive, so he's obviously good at
climbing. I wouldn't do that myself as I'm not that agile. But I
would if I had his abilities.
It is pathetic the way they call it an "incident". The
incident has not happened, he has not fallen.

Considering some of the dangerous and stupid things I have done
at work (and also when not at work) then I am probably not the
right person to give advice about H&S.

List them. Then explain why you are taking the opposite view.

That would be a long list.

List the most interesting ones.

Most regular posters have already read about them.

--
Adam

On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 18:06:40 -0000, Tim Streater wrote:

In article ,
charles wrote:

In article op.wmwh14tlytk5n5@i7-940,
Lieutenant Scott wrote:

For the benefit of the feeble minded ..

Safety is nothing to do with being "sissy" or not. If you want to take
an unnecessary risk that put's your life at risk then fine.

However by doing that you can endanger someone else's safety.
I'm certainly glad that I don't have to work where you do...

But a lot of health and safety is about protecting YOURSELF. This is
ludicrous.

and a lot more is about protecting others.

And if someone else does something that you consider dangerous to
yourself, you are free to resign.

resign from what?

In the Loo-Tenant's case, the human race, with any luck.

That's LEFT tenant.

--
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http://petersphotos.com

Very funny, Scotty... Now beam down my clothes!

On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 19:01:52 -0000, ARW wrote:

Lieutenant Scott wrote:
On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 18:51:55 -0000, ARW
wrote:
Lieutenant Scott wrote:
On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 18:02:11 -0000, ARW
wrote:
Lieutenant Scott wrote:
On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 16:06:48 -0000, ARW
wrote:
Lieutenant Scott wrote:
On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 11:03:59 -0000, tony sayer
wrote:
In article op.wmusaui2ytk5n5@i7-940, Lieutenant Scott
scribeth thus
On Sat, 27 Oct 2012 20:25:15 +0100, John Williamson
om wrote:

Lieutenant Scott wrote:

I can not and will not tolerate safety.

Just remind us of your address, so we can mark the
house down as probably lethal should it come onto
the market.

If you want to be a sissy, by all means change the
house when you buy it.

Its nothing ay all about being a "sissy" due to your
disregard of safety -you- can endanger someone's else's
life and health.

Being afraid of dangerous things is being a sissy. That's
what the word means.

Have you been cleaning windows in Bath recently?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20105872

You do have to take risks in life - even crossing the road
is a calculated risk.

Well the bloke is still alive, so he's obviously good at
climbing. I wouldn't do that myself as I'm not that agile. But I
would if I had his abilities.
It is pathetic the way they call it an "incident". The
incident has not happened, he has not fallen.

Considering some of the dangerous and stupid things I have done
at work (and also when not at work) then I am probably not the
right person to give advice about H&S.

List them. Then explain why you are taking the opposite view.

That would be a long list.

List the most interesting ones.

Most regular posters have already read about them.

Post them again.

--
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http://petersphotos.com

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On 28/10/2012 18:09, Lieutenant Scott wrote:

But a lot of health and safety is about protecting YOURSELF. This is
ludicrous.

So by that reckoning, next time I am in my workshop and put on ear
defenders to protect my hearing, that is ludicrous?

And if someone else does something that you consider dangerous to
yourself, you are free to resign.

Or knee then robustly in the groin and suggest they don't do it again
should they every harbour a desire to propagate their genes.


--
Cheers,

John.

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On 28/10/2012 18:57, Lieutenant Scott wrote:
On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 18:51:55 -0000, ARW
wrote:

Lieutenant Scott wrote:
On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 18:02:11 -0000, ARW
wrote:
Lieutenant Scott wrote:
On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 16:06:48 -0000, ARW
wrote:
Lieutenant Scott wrote:
On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 11:03:59 -0000, tony sayer
wrote:
In article op.wmusaui2ytk5n5@i7-940, Lieutenant Scott
scribeth thus
On Sat, 27 Oct 2012 20:25:15 +0100, John Williamson
om wrote:

Lieutenant Scott wrote:

I can not and will not tolerate safety.

Just remind us of your address, so we can mark the house
down as probably lethal should it come onto the market.

If you want to be a sissy, by all means change the house
when you buy it.

Its nothing ay all about being a "sissy" due to your
disregard of safety -you- can endanger someone's else's
life and health.

Being afraid of dangerous things is being a sissy. That's
what the word means.

Have you been cleaning windows in Bath recently?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20105872

You do have to take risks in life - even crossing the road is a
calculated risk.

Well the bloke is still alive, so he's obviously good at
climbing. I wouldn't do that myself as I'm not that agile. But
I would if I had his abilities.
It is pathetic the way they call it an "incident". The incident
has not happened, he has not fallen.

Considering some of the dangerous and stupid things I have done at
work (and also when not at work) then I am probably not the right
person to give advice about H&S.

List them. Then explain why you are taking the opposite view.

That would be a long list.

List the most interesting ones.

The reason I take the opposite view is that there is a 100% chance that
anything you say is incorrect.

That's a little silly. If I told you the earth was round, you would say
it was flat?

Why? its not round.


--
Cheers,

John.

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Lieutenant Scott wrote:
On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 19:01:52 -0000, ARW
wrote:
Lieutenant Scott wrote:
On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 18:51:55 -0000, ARW
wrote:
Lieutenant Scott wrote:
On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 18:02:11 -0000, ARW
wrote:
Lieutenant Scott wrote:
On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 16:06:48 -0000, ARW
wrote:
Lieutenant Scott wrote:
On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 11:03:59 -0000, tony sayer
wrote:
In article op.wmusaui2ytk5n5@i7-940, Lieutenant
Scott scribeth thus
On Sat, 27 Oct 2012 20:25:15 +0100, John
Williamson om wrote:

Lieutenant Scott wrote:

I can not and will not tolerate safety.

Just remind us of your address, so we can mark
the house down as probably lethal should it
come onto the market.

If you want to be a sissy, by all means change the
house when you buy it.

Its nothing ay all about being a "sissy" due to
your disregard of safety -you- can endanger
someone's else's life and health.

Being afraid of dangerous things is being a sissy. That's
what the word means.

Have you been cleaning windows in Bath recently?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20105872

You do have to take risks in life - even crossing the
road is a calculated risk.

Well the bloke is still alive, so he's obviously good at
climbing. I wouldn't do that myself as I'm not that
agile. But I would if I had his abilities.
It is pathetic the way they call it an "incident". The
incident has not happened, he has not fallen.

Considering some of the dangerous and stupid things I have
done at work (and also when not at work) then I am probably
not the right person to give advice about H&S.

List them. Then explain why you are taking the opposite view.

That would be a long list.

List the most interesting ones.

Most regular posters have already read about them.

Post them again.

I am not Mills and Boon.

--
Adam

On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 21:21:03 -0000, John Rumm wrote:

On 28/10/2012 18:57, Lieutenant Scott wrote:
On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 18:51:55 -0000, ARW
wrote:

Lieutenant Scott wrote:
On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 18:02:11 -0000, ARW
wrote:
Lieutenant Scott wrote:
On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 16:06:48 -0000, ARW
wrote:
Lieutenant Scott wrote:
On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 11:03:59 -0000, tony sayer
wrote:
In article op.wmusaui2ytk5n5@i7-940, Lieutenant Scott
scribeth thus
On Sat, 27 Oct 2012 20:25:15 +0100, John Williamson
om wrote:

Lieutenant Scott wrote:

I can not and will not tolerate safety.

Just remind us of your address, so we can mark the house
down as probably lethal should it come onto the market.

If you want to be a sissy, by all means change the house
when you buy it.

Its nothing ay all about being a "sissy" due to your
disregard of safety -you- can endanger someone's else's
life and health.

Being afraid of dangerous things is being a sissy. That's
what the word means.

Have you been cleaning windows in Bath recently?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20105872

You do have to take risks in life - even crossing the road is a
calculated risk.

Well the bloke is still alive, so he's obviously good at
climbing. I wouldn't do that myself as I'm not that agile. But
I would if I had his abilities.
It is pathetic the way they call it an "incident". The incident
has not happened, he has not fallen.

Considering some of the dangerous and stupid things I have done at
work (and also when not at work) then I am probably not the right
person to give advice about H&S.

List them. Then explain why you are taking the opposite view.

That would be a long list.

List the most interesting ones.

The reason I take the opposite view is that there is a 100% chance that
anything you say is incorrect.

That's a little silly. If I told you the earth was round, you would say
it was flat?

Why? its not round.

How pedantic can you get?

--
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http://petersphotos.com

The only differences between lawyers and prostitutes are that prostitutes are generally better looking and more honest about how they make a living.

On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 21:17:02 -0000, John Rumm wrote:

On 28/10/2012 18:09, Lieutenant Scott wrote:

But a lot of health and safety is about protecting YOURSELF. This is
ludicrous.

So by that reckoning, next time I am in my workshop and put on ear
defenders to protect my hearing, that is ludicrous?

It is ludicrous for your boss to force you to wear them. It is ludicrous for him to get into trouble for not forcing you to wear them.

It should be up to you to wear them if you wish, it's YOUR hearing.

And if someone else does something that you consider dangerous to
yourself, you are free to resign.

Or knee then robustly in the groin and suggest they don't do it again
should they [ever] harbour a desire to propagate their genes.

Are you a caveman?

--
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http://petersphotos.com

Why is a person who plays the piano called a pianist but a person who drives a racing car not called a racist?

On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 21:29:33 -0000, ARW wrote:

Lieutenant Scott wrote:
On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 19:01:52 -0000, ARW
wrote:
Lieutenant Scott wrote:
On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 18:51:55 -0000, ARW
wrote:
Lieutenant Scott wrote:
On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 18:02:11 -0000, ARW
wrote:
Lieutenant Scott wrote:
On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 16:06:48 -0000, ARW
wrote:
Lieutenant Scott wrote:
On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 11:03:59 -0000, tony sayer
wrote:
In article op.wmusaui2ytk5n5@i7-940, Lieutenant
Scott scribeth thus
On Sat, 27 Oct 2012 20:25:15 +0100, John
Williamson om wrote:

Lieutenant Scott wrote:

I can not and will not tolerate safety.

Just remind us of your address, so we can mark
the house down as probably lethal should it
come onto the market.

If you want to be a sissy, by all means change the
house when you buy it.

Its nothing ay all about being a "sissy" due to
your disregard of safety -you- can endanger
someone's else's life and health.

Being afraid of dangerous things is being a sissy. That's
what the word means.

Have you been cleaning windows in Bath recently?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20105872

You do have to take risks in life - even crossing the
road is a calculated risk.

Well the bloke is still alive, so he's obviously good at
climbing. I wouldn't do that myself as I'm not that
agile. But I would if I had his abilities.
It is pathetic the way they call it an "incident". The
incident has not happened, he has not fallen.

Considering some of the dangerous and stupid things I have
done at work (and also when not at work) then I am probably
not the right person to give advice about H&S.

List them. Then explain why you are taking the opposite view.

That would be a long list.

List the most interesting ones.

Most regular posters have already read about them.

Post them again.

I am not Mills and Boon.

Copying and pasting would have taken you no longer than writing "I am not Mills and Boon".

--
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http://petersphotos.com

"Th on my k yboard has stopp d working"

On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 22:17:26 -0000, Tim Streater wrote:

In article op.wmwk71w1ytk5n5@i7-940, "Lieutenant Scott"
wrote:

On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 18:06:40 -0000, Tim Streater
wrote:

In article ,
charles wrote:

In article op.wmwh14tlytk5n5@i7-940,
Lieutenant Scott wrote:

For the benefit of the feeble minded ..

Safety is nothing to do with being "sissy" or not. If you want to take
an unnecessary risk that put's your life at risk then fine.

However by doing that you can endanger someone else's safety.
I'm certainly glad that I don't have to work where you do...

But a lot of health and safety is about protecting YOURSELF. This is
ludicrous.

and a lot more is about protecting others.

And if someone else does something that you consider dangerous to
yourself, you are free to resign.

resign from what?

In the Loo-Tenant's case, the human race, with any luck.

That's LEFT tenant.

Typo, obviously. You're a lift operator, eh? Where, precisely?

I said LEFT not LIFT.

--
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http://petersphotos.com

Peter is listening to "Fredzefred - All da Motha ****as"

On 28/10/2012 21:39, Lieutenant Scott wrote:
On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 21:17:02 -0000, John Rumm
wrote:

On 28/10/2012 18:09, Lieutenant Scott wrote:

But a lot of health and safety is about protecting YOURSELF. This is
ludicrous.

So by that reckoning, next time I am in my workshop and put on ear
defenders to protect my hearing, that is ludicrous?

It is ludicrous for your boss to force you to wear them. It is
ludicrous for him to get into trouble for not forcing you to wear them.

It should be up to you to wear them if you wish, it's YOUR hearing.

If you sign a disclaimer giving up the right to litigate in the event of
hearing loss, then perhaps.

And if someone else does something that you consider dangerous to
yourself, you are free to resign.

Or knee then robustly in the groin and suggest they don't do it again
should they [ever] harbour a desire to propagate their genes.

Are you a caveman?

are you suggest I should club them over the head as well?

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Cheers,

John.

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On 28/10/2012 21:37, Lieutenant Scott wrote:
On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 21:21:03 -0000, John Rumm
wrote:

On 28/10/2012 18:57, Lieutenant Scott wrote:
On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 18:51:55 -0000, ARW
wrote:

Lieutenant Scott wrote:
On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 18:02:11 -0000, ARW
wrote:
Lieutenant Scott wrote:
On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 16:06:48 -0000, ARW
wrote:
Lieutenant Scott wrote:
On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 11:03:59 -0000, tony sayer
wrote:
In article op.wmusaui2ytk5n5@i7-940, Lieutenant Scott
scribeth thus
On Sat, 27 Oct 2012 20:25:15 +0100, John Williamson
om wrote:

Lieutenant Scott wrote:

I can not and will not tolerate safety.

Just remind us of your address, so we can mark the house
down as probably lethal should it come onto the market.

If you want to be a sissy, by all means change the house
when you buy it.

Its nothing ay all about being a "sissy" due to your
disregard of safety -you- can endanger someone's else's
life and health.

Being afraid of dangerous things is being a sissy. That's
what the word means.

Have you been cleaning windows in Bath recently?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20105872

You do have to take risks in life - even crossing the road is a
calculated risk.

Well the bloke is still alive, so he's obviously good at
climbing. I wouldn't do that myself as I'm not that agile. But
I would if I had his abilities.
It is pathetic the way they call it an "incident". The incident
has not happened, he has not fallen.

Considering some of the dangerous and stupid things I have done at
work (and also when not at work) then I am probably not the right
person to give advice about H&S.

List them. Then explain why you are taking the opposite view.

That would be a long list.

List the most interesting ones.

The reason I take the opposite view is that there is a 100% chance that
anything you say is incorrect.

That's a little silly. If I told you the earth was round, you would say
it was flat?

Why? its not round.

How pedantic can you get?

Very, but in this case you have not even got the right number of dimensions!


--
Cheers,

John.

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On 28/10/2012 23:50, John Rumm wrote:
On 28/10/2012 21:39, Lieutenant Scott wrote:
On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 21:17:02 -0000, John Rumm
wrote:

On 28/10/2012 18:09, Lieutenant Scott wrote:

But a lot of health and safety is about protecting YOURSELF. This is
ludicrous.

So by that reckoning, next time I am in my workshop and put on ear
defenders to protect my hearing, that is ludicrous?

It is ludicrous for your boss to force you to wear them. It is
ludicrous for him to get into trouble for not forcing you to wear them.

It should be up to you to wear them if you wish, it's YOUR hearing.

If you sign a disclaimer giving up the right to litigate in the event of
hearing loss, then perhaps.

And if someone else does something that you consider dangerous to
yourself, you are free to resign.

Or knee then robustly in the groin and suggest they don't do it again
should they [ever] harbour a desire to propagate their genes.

Are you a caveman?

are you suggest I should club them over the head as well?

And, like medical consent forms, they would undoubtedly require to be
"informed" so the overheads (of ensuring that each person needing to
sign a disclaimer is suitably informed) would be crazy.

--
Rod

Tim Streater wrote:
In article op.wmwwilahytk5n5@i7-940, "Lieutenant Scott" wrote:

[snip]


Typo, obviously. You're a lift operator, eh? Where, precisely?
I said LEFT not LIFT.

You're a left operator? What's that?

Since he's a known tosser it's an indication of which hand he uses.

--
€¢DarWin|
_/ _/

"ARW" wrote:
Lieutenant Scott wrote:
On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 19:01:52 -0000, ARW
wrote:
Lieutenant Scott wrote:
On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 18:51:55 -0000, ARW
wrote:
Lieutenant Scott wrote:
On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 18:02:11 -0000, ARW
wrote:
Lieutenant Scott wrote:
On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 16:06:48 -0000, ARW
wrote:
Lieutenant Scott wrote:
On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 11:03:59 -0000, tony sayer
wrote:
In article op.wmusaui2ytk5n5@i7-940, Lieutenant
Scott scribeth thus
On Sat, 27 Oct 2012 20:25:15 +0100, John
Williamson om wrote:

Lieutenant Scott wrote:

I can not and will not tolerate safety.

Just remind us of your address, so we can mark
the house down as probably lethal should it
come onto the market.

If you want to be a sissy, by all means change the
house when you buy it.

Its nothing ay all about being a "sissy" due to
your disregard of safety -you- can endanger
someone's else's life and health.

Being afraid of dangerous things is being a sissy. That's
what the word means.

Have you been cleaning windows in Bath recently?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20105872

You do have to take risks in life - even crossing the
road is a calculated risk.

Well the bloke is still alive, so he's obviously good at
climbing. I wouldn't do that myself as I'm not that
agile. But I would if I had his abilities.
It is pathetic the way they call it an "incident". The
incident has not happened, he has not fallen.

Considering some of the dangerous and stupid things I have
done at work (and also when not at work) then I am probably
not the right person to give advice about H&S.

List them. Then explain why you are taking the opposite view.

That would be a long list.

List the most interesting ones.

Most regular posters have already read about them.

Post them again.

I am not Mills and Boon.

More like fifty shades of Adam.

--
€¢DarWin|
_/ _/

On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 23:51:38 -0000, John Rumm wrote:

On 28/10/2012 21:37, Lieutenant Scott wrote:
On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 21:21:03 -0000, John Rumm
wrote:

On 28/10/2012 18:57, Lieutenant Scott wrote:
On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 18:51:55 -0000, ARW
wrote:

Lieutenant Scott wrote:


That would be a long list.

List the most interesting ones.

The reason I take the opposite view is that there is a 100% chance that
anything you say is incorrect.

That's a little silly. If I told you the earth was round, you would say
it was flat?

Why? its not round.

How pedantic can you get?

Very, but in this case you have not even got the right number of dimensions!

Most people would say an orange is round. A mathematician might object if he'd got out of the wrong side of bed.

--
http://petersparrots.com
http://petersphotos.com

You are the only person I know that has ever had a brain tumour removed from their arse.

On Mon, 29 Oct 2012 08:19:14 -0000, Tim Streater wrote:

In article op.wmwwilahytk5n5@i7-940, "Lieutenant Scott"
wrote:

On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 22:17:26 -0000, Tim Streater
wrote:

In article op.wmwk71w1ytk5n5@i7-940, "Lieutenant Scott"
wrote:

On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 18:06:40 -0000, Tim Streater

wrote:

In article ,
charles wrote:

In article op.wmwh14tlytk5n5@i7-940,
Lieutenant Scott wrote:

For the benefit of the feeble minded ..

Safety is nothing to do with being "sissy" or not. If you want to
take
an unnecessary risk that put's your life at risk then fine.

However by doing that you can endanger someone else's safety.
I'm certainly glad that I don't have to work where you do...

But a lot of health and safety is about protecting YOURSELF. This is
ludicrous.

and a lot more is about protecting others.

And if someone else does something that you consider dangerous to
yourself, you are free to resign.

resign from what?

In the Loo-Tenant's case, the human race, with any luck.

That's LEFT tenant.

Typo, obviously. You're a lift operator, eh? Where, precisely?

I said LEFT not LIFT.

You're a left operator? What's that?

Since when did tenant mean operator? It's someone who lives in a rented building, or perhaps an alcoholic drink.

--
http://petersparrots.com
http://petersphotos.com

What's the best thing to get for a woman who has everything?
A man to show her how to work it.

On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 23:50:19 -0000, John Rumm wrote:

On 28/10/2012 21:39, Lieutenant Scott wrote:
On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 21:17:02 -0000, John Rumm
wrote:

On 28/10/2012 18:09, Lieutenant Scott wrote:

But a lot of health and safety is about protecting YOURSELF. This is
ludicrous.

So by that reckoning, next time I am in my workshop and put on ear
defenders to protect my hearing, that is ludicrous?

It is ludicrous for your boss to force you to wear them. It is
ludicrous for him to get into trouble for not forcing you to wear them.

It should be up to you to wear them if you wish, it's YOUR hearing.

If you sign a disclaimer giving up the right to litigate in the event of
hearing loss, then perhaps.

You shouldn't have the right to litigate in the first place. Your hearing is your responsibility, this isn't kindergarten any more.

And if someone else does something that you consider dangerous to
yourself, you are free to resign.

Or knee then robustly in the groin and suggest they don't do it again
should they [ever] harbour a desire to propagate their genes.

Are you a caveman?

are you suggest I should club them over the head as well?

Kneeing them in the groin already showed you to be a caveman.

--
http://petersparrots.com
http://petersphotos.com

"The only time you have too much fuel is when you're on fire."

Lieutenant Scott wrote:
On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 18:45:22 -0000, ARW
wrote:
Lieutenant Scott wrote:
On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 17:52:35 -0000, ARW
wrote:
Lieutenant Scott wrote:
On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 15:58:32 -0000, ARW
wrote:
Lieutenant Scott wrote:
On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 15:05:12 -0000, John Williamson
wrote:
Lieutenant Scott wrote:
On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 01:12:58 +0100, John Williamson
wrote:

Lieutenant Scott wrote:
Lifting something is not rocket science. Neither
is climbing a ladder, which people seem to think
also requires a course. There'll be a course on
how to open a door next.
As it happens, practitioners of certain trades *are*
taught how to open and close the doors under their
control safely.

You mean mentally retarded people? Most people can
operate a door without even thinking about it.

No, I mean people with degrees like yours. Also train
drivers and guards.

Anyone over the age of 6 can open a door.

Do they do training on how to eat a sandwich too?

There rules on some sites as to where you can eat a
sandwich.

An operating theatre perhaps. But that's common sense.

And building sites.

But you have never been on one have you?

Yes eating a sandwich on a building site is really dangerous.....
what planet are you on?

I am on the same planet as John Williamson - although we do not
always see eye to eye on what is always acceptable behaviour on a
building site we can both spot a pillock. ie you

The H&S guys on site are always reasonable. And there are always
rules no1 and no 2 for you to follow.

Rule no 1. The H&S guy is always correct
Rule no 2. If the H&S guy is incorrect refer to rule no 1

The H&S guy is a ****** who doesn't actually build anything. He
needs to be shot. He is a dead weight.

TBH they are often ex tradesman and usually give you a bit of slack if you
do not take the ****.


And I'll bet John knows why there are rules on where you can and
cannot eat a sandwich when working on some building sites.

It seems you do not have a clue about such things. That's why we
have H&S people on some sites.

I awaited with baited breath the nonsense rule you will come up with.

The risk of contamination from chemicals etc. If you can only eat in the
canteen then it is your problem if you fail to wash your hands before you
eat your food.

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Adam

On 29/10/2012 17:59, Lieutenant Scott wrote:
On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 23:50:19 -0000, John Rumm
wrote:

On 28/10/2012 21:39, Lieutenant Scott wrote:
On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 21:17:02 -0000, John Rumm
wrote:

On 28/10/2012 18:09, Lieutenant Scott wrote:

But a lot of health and safety is about protecting YOURSELF. This is
ludicrous.

So by that reckoning, next time I am in my workshop and put on ear
defenders to protect my hearing, that is ludicrous?

It is ludicrous for your boss to force you to wear them. It is
ludicrous for him to get into trouble for not forcing you to wear them.

It should be up to you to wear them if you wish, it's YOUR hearing.

If you sign a disclaimer giving up the right to litigate in the event of
hearing loss, then perhaps.

You shouldn't have the right to litigate in the first place. Your
hearing is your responsibility, this isn't kindergarten any more.

So if an employer says to the workforce, there no need to wear PPE,
since there is nothing hazardous here. So we don't provide any. Its all
above board even if they know that they air quality or sound levels are
hazardous to their staffs health?

And if someone else does something that you consider dangerous to
yourself, you are free to resign.

Or knee then robustly in the groin and suggest they don't do it again
should they [ever] harbour a desire to propagate their genes.

Are you a caveman?

are you suggest I should club them over the head as well?

Kneeing them in the groin already showed you to be a caveman.

Hardly. If you were repeatedly doing something that was likely to pose a
significant risk to to someone else's well being, and did not modify
your behaviour as a result of verbal or written enlightenment, physical
intervention to drive the point (and your testicles) home sounds quite
reasonable.



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Cheers,

John.

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