UK diy (uk.d-i-y) For the discussion of all topics related to diy (do-it-yourself) in the UK. All levels of experience and proficency are welcome to join in to ask questions or offer solutions.

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
  #1   Report Post  
Posted to uk.d-i-y
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 159
Default OT - Driving In France, new law!

In case you haven't heard (and I didn't know), just picked this up
from the Rover 75 and MG ZT Owners Club forum. A later post suggest
that it applies in most other European countries as well (except UK -
yet):

"A new law (applicable now) means any person planning to drive in
France must carry a reflective jacket from now on. In an emergency,
the jacket must be easily accessible by the driver and must be put on
before leaving the car, day or night, regardless of visibility. As of
1 October 2008, any person found not complying will face a 135 euro
fine (90 euro if paid early).

I've not seen any reference requiring passengers to have a jacket, so
it looks like the driver only (at this stage). For me, the new news
was that the jacket has to be accessible from inside the car. I was
relying on mine being inside the tailgate along with the warning
triangle. That's not good enough! From October 2008, cyclists will
need high viz jackets outside built-up areas too - and we think the UK
is bad for Health and Safety!

I've found a company that sells suitable jackets for £1.69 each (plus
a few pence for P&P).
http://www.vizwear.com/detail.php?p=1&c=0.1&subc=1 I've no connection
with the company, but plenty of connection with trying to make my
money go as far as it can!"

PLUS

"Yep,confirmed 135 euros,i work over here in France and we were told
to get one in our cars ASAP,so we put it in the boot as is the norm we
thought,wrong,easily accesible is the wording and as such in the car
it is,most of le frogs seem to be sticking it over the passenger seat
at the moment and the Gendarmes are having a field day with Brit
tourists down here (Toulouse area),so invest in the kit and stick it
in the car not in the boot.
Oh,and it's from July 1st according to our bosses!!!"
  #2   Report Post  
Posted to uk.d-i-y
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 9,122
Default OT - Driving In France, new law!

On 2008-07-22 12:47:38 +0100, DavidM said:

In case you haven't heard (and I didn't know), just picked this up
from the Rover 75 and MG ZT Owners Club forum. A later post suggest
that it applies in most other European countries as well (except UK -
yet):

"A new law (applicable now) means any person planning to drive in
France must carry a reflective jacket from now on. In an emergency,
the jacket must be easily accessible by the driver and must be put on
before leaving the car, day or night, regardless of visibility. As of
1 October 2008, any person found not complying will face a 135 euro
fine (90 euro if paid early).

I've not seen any reference requiring passengers to have a jacket, so
it looks like the driver only (at this stage). For me, the new news
was that the jacket has to be accessible from inside the car. I was
relying on mine being inside the tailgate along with the warning
triangle. That's not good enough! From October 2008, cyclists will
need high viz jackets outside built-up areas too - and we think the UK
is bad for Health and Safety!

I've found a company that sells suitable jackets for £1.69 each (plus
a few pence for P&P).
http://www.vizwear.com/detail.php?p=1&c=0.1&subc=1 I've no connection
with the company, but plenty of connection with trying to make my
money go as far as it can!"

PLUS

"Yep,confirmed 135 euros,i work over here in France and we were told
to get one in our cars ASAP,so we put it in the boot as is the norm we
thought,wrong,easily accesible is the wording and as such in the car
it is,most of le frogs seem to be sticking it over the passenger seat
at the moment and the Gendarmes are having a field day with Brit
tourists down here (Toulouse area),so invest in the kit and stick it
in the car not in the boot.
Oh,and it's from July 1st according to our bosses!!!"


I remember reading about this last year and bought one anyway. I
didn't pick up on the must be in car angle, but it's fairly obvious

  #3   Report Post  
Posted to uk.d-i-y
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 1,118
Default OT - Driving In France, new law!

DavidM wrote:

"A new law (applicable now) means any person planning to drive in
France must carry a reflective jacket from now on. In an emergency,
the jacket must be easily accessible by the driver and must be put on
before leaving the car, day or night, regardless of visibility. As of
1 October 2008, any person found not complying will face a 135 euro
fine (90 euro if paid early).



Imagine the howls of outrage if that idea was implemented in the UK!

It seems quite sensible to me. ;-)

  #4   Report Post  
Posted to uk.d-i-y
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 2,713
Default OT - Driving In France, new law!

DavidM wrote:

"A new law (applicable now) means any person planning to drive in
France must carry a reflective jacket from now on. In an emergency,
the jacket must be easily accessible by the driver and must be put on
before leaving the car, day or night, regardless of visibility.



"Yep,confirmed 135 euros,i work over here in France and we were told
to get one in our cars ASAP,so we put it in the boot as is the norm we
thought,wrong,easily accesible is the wording and as such in the car
it is,most of le frogs seem to be sticking it over the passenger seat
at the moment and the Gendarmes are having a field day with Brit
tourists down here


I used to keep one visible in the car, but found the sun bleached
it, rather defeating the object.

Chris
--
Chris J Dixon Nottingham UK


Have dancing shoes, will ceilidh.
  #5   Report Post  
Posted to uk.d-i-y
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 81
Default OT - Driving In France, new law!

On 22 Jul, 13:17, Chris J Dixon wrote:
DavidM wrote:
"A new law (applicable now) means any person planning to drive in
France must carry a reflective jacket from now on. In an emergency,
the jacket must be easily accessible by the driver and must be put on
before leaving the car, day or night, regardless of visibility.
"Yep,confirmed 135 euros,i work over here in France and we were told
to get one in our cars ASAP,so we put it in the boot as is the norm we
thought,wrong,easily accesible is the wording and as such in the car
it is,most of le frogs seem to be sticking it over the passenger seat
at the moment and the Gendarmes are having a field day with Brit
tourists down here


I used to keep one visible in the car, but found the sun bleached
it, rather defeating the object.


One wonders whether it would be acceptable to have it in the boot - if
the boot can be accessed from inside the car by putting down the rear
seats.

Andrew


  #6   Report Post  
Posted to uk.d-i-y
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 4,905
Default OT - Driving In France, new law!

Andrew gurgled happily, sounding much like they
were saying:

One wonders whether it would be acceptable to have it in the boot - if
the boot can be accessed from inside the car by putting down the rear
seats.


AIUI, the test for accessibility is "Can the driver get to it in order to
be wearing it BEFORE getting out of the vehicle?"

Of course, whether you _can_ actually don it whilst still sat behind the
wheel is another question...
  #7   Report Post  
Posted to uk.d-i-y
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 3,861
Default OT - Driving In France, new law!

In message , DavidM
writes
In case you haven't heard (and I didn't know), just picked this up
from the Rover 75 and MG ZT Owners Club forum. A later post suggest
that it applies in most other European countries as well (except UK -
yet):

"A new law (applicable now) means any person planning to drive in
France must carry a reflective jacket from now on. In an emergency,
the jacket must be easily accessible by the driver and must be put on
before leaving the car, day or night, regardless of visibility. As of
1 October 2008, any person found not complying will face a 135 euro
fine (90 euro if paid early).


I've been carrying a couple for two years now - better move them out of
the boot

--
geoff
  #8   Report Post  
Posted to uk.d-i-y
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 2,538
Default OT - Driving In France, new law!

geoff coughed up some electrons that declared:

In message , DavidM
writes
In case you haven't heard (and I didn't know), just picked this up
from the Rover 75 and MG ZT Owners Club forum. A later post suggest
that it applies in most other European countries as well (except UK -
yet):

"A new law (applicable now) means any person planning to drive in
France must carry a reflective jacket from now on. In an emergency,
the jacket must be easily accessible by the driver and must be put on
before leaving the car, day or night, regardless of visibility. As of
1 October 2008, any person found not complying will face a 135 euro
fine (90 euro if paid early).


I've been carrying a couple for two years now - better move them out of
the boot


Odd, because when I went to Belgium in Nov 2006, I was reading up on the
continental rules on some website. As I result I've got a jacket under the
driver's seat.

Now, I can't remember if the website said mandatory in Belgium, or France or
whether I misread it or whether the site was talking nonsense, but I
formulated the opinion back then that I had to have one or I might get
busted.

So this thread took me by surprise :=0

Cheers

Tim
  #9   Report Post  
Posted to uk.d-i-y
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 2,735
Default OT - Driving In France, new law!

Chris J Dixon wrote:

DavidM wrote:


"A new law (applicable now) means any person planning to drive in
France must carry a reflective jacket from now on. In an emergency,
the jacket must be easily accessible by the driver and must be put on
before leaving the car, day or night, regardless of visibility.




"Yep,confirmed 135 euros,i work over here in France and we were told
to get one in our cars ASAP,so we put it in the boot as is the norm we
thought,wrong,easily accesible is the wording and as such in the car
it is,most of le frogs seem to be sticking it over the passenger seat
at the moment and the Gendarmes are having a field day with Brit
tourists down here



I used to keep one visible in the car, but found the sun bleached
it, rather defeating the object.


Not really, the yellow might bleach out, but the important part, the
reflective strip, will be OK. BTDTWTTS

Dave
  #10   Report Post  
Posted to uk.d-i-y
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 2,735
Default OT - Driving In France, new law!

DavidM wrote:

In case you haven't heard (and I didn't know), just picked this up
from the Rover 75 and MG ZT Owners Club forum. A later post suggest
that it applies in most other European countries as well (except UK -
yet):

"A new law (applicable now) means any person planning to drive in
France must carry a reflective jacket from now on.


Does this new law define what the jacket must consist of. Most small van
drivers are issued with a reflective vest, does this cover that law?

Just done a test on mine and it can be rolled up to 6 inches long and
less than 3 inches in diam. I might just put it in the rear of my
drivers door pocket, since it takes up next to no room stood up tall.

Like others, I carry a full suit in the boot, in case I break down and
have to walk for a phone. I don't mind wet feet, I can get over that
providing my body is dry and out of the wind.

Dave


  #11   Report Post  
Posted to uk.d-i-y
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 139
Default OT - Driving In France, new law!

On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 12:47:38 +0100, DavidM wrote:
In case you haven't heard (and I didn't know), just picked this up
from the Rover 75 and MG ZT Owners Club forum. A later post suggest
that it applies in most other European countries as well (except UK -
yet):

snip

This has been in force in Spain for some time. When I went over
in 2006, I just bought a cheapo one from Lidl (about £2). A lot
of drivers there keep it slung over the back of the driver's seat.
(In spain you also have to carry a "danger" triangle, by law, too)

--
.. Pete Lynch I have learned from my mistakes and
.. Marlow ... I am sure I can repeat them exactly
.. www.pete-lynch.com --- Peter Cooke.
  #12   Report Post  
Posted to uk.d-i-y
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 3,861
Default OT - Driving In France, new law!

In message , Tim S
writes
geoff coughed up some electrons that declared:

In message , DavidM
writes
In case you haven't heard (and I didn't know), just picked this up
from the Rover 75 and MG ZT Owners Club forum. A later post suggest
that it applies in most other European countries as well (except UK -
yet):

"A new law (applicable now) means any person planning to drive in
France must carry a reflective jacket from now on. In an emergency,
the jacket must be easily accessible by the driver and must be put on
before leaving the car, day or night, regardless of visibility. As of
1 October 2008, any person found not complying will face a 135 euro
fine (90 euro if paid early).


I've been carrying a couple for two years now - better move them out of
the boot


Odd, because when I went to Belgium in Nov 2006, I was reading up on the
continental rules on some website. As I result I've got a jacket under the
driver's seat.

Now, I can't remember if the website said mandatory in Belgium, or France or
whether I misread it or whether the site was talking nonsense, but I
formulated the opinion back then that I had to have one or I might get
busted.

So this thread took me by surprise :=0

I'm sure that they said it was mandatory in France at the port

in other words - lets see how many of these jackets we can scare people
into buying at our highly inflated prices

--
geoff
  #13   Report Post  
Posted to uk.d-i-y
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 700
Default OT - Driving In France, new law!

Tim S wrote:

Odd, because when I went to Belgium in Nov 2006, I was reading up on the
continental rules on some website. As I result I've got a jacket under the
driver's seat.

Now, I can't remember if the website said mandatory in Belgium, or France or
whether I misread it or whether the site was talking nonsense, but I
formulated the opinion back then that I had to have one or I might get
busted.

So this thread took me by surprise :=0

Cheers

Tim


I bought one before the last time I went over. But I'll move it to
where I can reach it!

Andy
  #14   Report Post  
Posted to uk.d-i-y
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 620
Default OT - Driving In France, new law!


"Peter Lynch" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 12:47:38 +0100, DavidM wrote:
In case you haven't heard (and I didn't know), just picked this up
from the Rover 75 and MG ZT Owners Club forum. A later post suggest
that it applies in most other European countries as well (except UK -
yet):

snip

This has been in force in Spain for some time. When I went over
in 2006, I just bought a cheapo one from Lidl (about £2). A lot
of drivers there keep it slung over the back of the driver's seat.
(In spain you also have to carry a "danger" triangle, by law, too)


Also as I recall in Spain if you wear glasses you have to carry a spare pair
in the car. These rules seem bloody crazy to me. How likely is it that your
glasses will break during a single car journey? Maybe it makes more sense if
you're going over there on holiday for two weeks but every Spanish motorist
having to take two pairs of specs every time they go shopping is just
lunacy. It's no doubt been very good for the Spanish optician's industry
though.
--
Dave Baker


  #15   Report Post  
Posted to uk.d-i-y
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 3,861
Default OT - Driving In France, new law!

In message , Dave Baker
writes

"Peter Lynch" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 12:47:38 +0100, DavidM wrote:
In case you haven't heard (and I didn't know), just picked this up
from the Rover 75 and MG ZT Owners Club forum. A later post suggest
that it applies in most other European countries as well (except UK -
yet):

snip

This has been in force in Spain for some time. When I went over
in 2006, I just bought a cheapo one from Lidl (about £2). A lot
of drivers there keep it slung over the back of the driver's seat.
(In spain you also have to carry a "danger" triangle, by law, too)


Also as I recall in Spain if you wear glasses you have to carry a spare pair
in the car.


It's the law in Germany

I just keep a spare pair as it seems a good idea

.... along with the first aid kit, spare set of bulbs triangle and hi-viz
vest



--
geoff


  #16   Report Post  
Posted to uk.d-i-y
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 499
Default OT - Driving In France, new law!


"Chris J Dixon" wrote in message
...
DavidM wrote:

"A new law (applicable now) means any person planning to drive in
France must carry a reflective jacket from now on. In an emergency,
the jacket must be easily accessible by the driver and must be put on
before leaving the car, day or night, regardless of visibility.



"Yep,confirmed 135 euros,i work over here in France and we were told
to get one in our cars ASAP,so we put it in the boot as is the norm we
thought,wrong,easily accesible is the wording and as such in the car
it is,most of le frogs seem to be sticking it over the passenger seat
at the moment and the Gendarmes are having a field day with Brit
tourists down here


I used to keep one visible in the car, but found the sun bleached
it, rather defeating the object.

Chris


Washing them also bleaches them. Most of my hi-viz stuff had a "maximum
number of washes allowed" sticker attached to them.

Adam

  #17   Report Post  
Posted to uk.d-i-y
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 1,118
Default OT - Driving In France, new law!

"Dave Baker" wrote:

Also as I recall in Spain if you wear glasses you have to carry a spare pair
in the car. These rules seem bloody crazy to me. How likely is it that your
glasses will break during a single car journey? Maybe it makes more sense if
you're going over there on holiday for two weeks but every Spanish motorist
having to take two pairs of specs every time they go shopping is just
lunacy. It's no doubt been very good for the Spanish optician's industry
though.



It isn't crazy at all. I recall a weekend trip away with my son when
I broke my glasses ... my wife had to drive a 270 mile round trip to
bring me a spare pair. Now she makes sure I always take a spare pair
with me. I keep it in the car.

  #18   Report Post  
Posted to uk.d-i-y
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 4,410
Default OT - Driving In France, new law!


"Dave Baker" wrote in message
...

"Peter Lynch" wrote in message
...

....
This has been in force in Spain for some time. When I went over
in 2006, I just bought a cheapo one from Lidl (about £2). A lot
of drivers there keep it slung over the back of the driver's seat.
(In spain you also have to carry a "danger" triangle, by law, too)


Mine is a Class 1 lightweight sleeved vest that simply tucks into the map
pocket behind the passenger's seat.

Also as I recall in Spain if you wear glasses you have to carry a spare
pair in the car. These rules seem bloody crazy to me. How likely is it
that your glasses will break during a single car journey? Maybe it makes
more sense if you're going over there on holiday for two weeks but every
Spanish motorist having to take two pairs of specs every time they go
shopping is just lunacy. It's no doubt been very good for the Spanish
optician's industry though.


My pilot's licence requires me to carry a spare pair when flying too. I
routinely have a spare pair in the car and carry a pair (sometimes two) in
my coat, but, with my eyesight, I would need one of the spare pairs to find
the main pair if I dropped them.

Colin Bignell


  #19   Report Post  
Posted to uk.d-i-y
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 1,419
Default OT - Driving In France, new law!

In message , Dave Baker
writes

"Peter Lynch" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 12:47:38 +0100, DavidM wrote:
In case you haven't heard (and I didn't know), just picked this up
from the Rover 75 and MG ZT Owners Club forum. A later post suggest
that it applies in most other European countries as well (except UK -
yet):

snip

This has been in force in Spain for some time. When I went over
in 2006, I just bought a cheapo one from Lidl (about £2). A lot
of drivers there keep it slung over the back of the driver's seat.
(In spain you also have to carry a "danger" triangle, by law, too)


Also as I recall in Spain if you wear glasses you have to carry a spare pair
in the car. These rules seem bloody crazy to me. How likely is it that your
glasses will break during a single car journey?


Not that common, but when it does, it can be a right PITA - BTDTGTTS. Ok
if you are just a few miles away from home in town. Getting me and the
two kids the 20+ miles we are regularly away from home, with a poor bus
service less OK.

Maybe it makes more sense if
you're going over there on holiday for two weeks but every Spanish motorist
having to take two pairs of specs every time they go shopping is just
lunacy.


Not really, you just stick a spare pare in the car and leave them there.

It's no doubt been very good for the Spanish optician's industry
though.


surely most people just keep an old pair in the car, that's what I've
done for years. The prescription might be slightly 'off' but they are
fine.
--
Chris French

  #22   Report Post  
Posted to uk.d-i-y
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 1,118
Default OT - Driving In France, new law!

chris French wrote:

surely most people just keep an old pair in the car, that's what I've
done for years. The prescription might be slightly 'off' but they are
fine.


aol

Me too!

/aol
  #23   Report Post  
Posted to uk.d-i-y
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 4,410
Default OT - Driving In France, new law!


"Owain" wrote in message
...
nightjar cpb@ wrote:
My pilot's licence requires me to carry a spare pair when flying too. I
routinely have a spare pair in the car and carry a pair (sometimes two)
in my coat, but, with my eyesight, I would need one of the spare pairs to
find the main pair if I dropped them.


You need a miniaturised version of the old "find your keys"
whistle-activated bleeper.


I'd still need to see where the noise was coming from

Colin Bignell


  #24   Report Post  
Posted to uk.d-i-y
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 187
Default OT - Driving In France, new law!

On 23 Jul, 01:26, geoff wrote:
In message , writesOn 22 Jul,
* * "nightjar" cpb@insert my surname here.me.uk wrote:


with my eyesight, I would need one of the spare pairs to find
the main pair if I dropped them.


Being very short sighted and at the age reading glasses need to be strong, I
often take off my glasses in order to work on close objects. I usually put
them down in an obvious place, but occasionally I have to find the spare pair
in order to find the main ones.


At a time when that was the case for me also, I once put my glasses
down beside me. Some papers fell down on top of them, but I continued
working. Later, when I came to lift the papers to put them back on,
there they were -- gone! I moved everything in that corner of the room
but couldn't find them, and missed a meeting I was supposed to be at
that evening. In the end I had to get a new pair. It was only several
years later when I moved house that they emerged. Somehow, they had
jumped into a bookshelf and fallen behind some rarely-used books.

you need one of those cords so they can dangle ...


Speaking of which, you know the pathologist on one of the CSIs who has
a pair that snap together? How do they work? Magnets? The action is
always too fast on the screen to make out what happens.

Chris
  #25   Report Post  
Posted to uk.d-i-y
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 1,066
Default OT - Driving In France, new law!

"Dave Baker" wrote in message
...

"Peter Lynch" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 12:47:38 +0100, DavidM wrote:
In case you haven't heard (and I didn't know), just picked this up
from the Rover 75 and MG ZT Owners Club forum. A later post suggest
that it applies in most other European countries as well (except UK -
yet):

snip

This has been in force in Spain for some time. When I went over
in 2006, I just bought a cheapo one from Lidl (about £2). A lot
of drivers there keep it slung over the back of the driver's seat.
(In spain you also have to carry a "danger" triangle, by law, too)


Also as I recall in Spain if you wear glasses you have to carry a spare
pair in the car. These rules seem bloody crazy to me. How likely is it
that your glasses will break during a single car journey? Maybe it makes
more sense if you're going over there on holiday for two weeks but every
Spanish motorist having to take two pairs of specs every time they go
shopping is just lunacy. It's no doubt been very good for the Spanish
optician's industry though.
--


Well, yes, if they are stupid enough to *take* 2 pairs with them every trip.
More sensible people just keep their spare pair in the car...


--
Bob Mannix
(anti-spam is as easy as 1-2-3 - not)




  #26   Report Post  
Posted to uk.d-i-y
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 4,905
Default OT - Driving In France, new law!

Bruce gurgled happily, sounding much like they were
saying:

surely most people just keep an old pair in the car, that's what I've
done for years. The prescription might be slightly 'off' but they are
fine.


aol

Me too!

/aol


waves

I managed to roll up and pack a tent away once without removing my
glasses from the pocket in the inner liner. Gaffer tape only goes so far
in repairing them.
  #27   Report Post  
Posted to uk.d-i-y
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 4,555
Default OT - Driving In France, new law!

Bob Mannix wrote:
"Dave Baker" wrote in message
...
"Peter Lynch" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 12:47:38 +0100, DavidM wrote:
In case you haven't heard (and I didn't know), just picked this up
from the Rover 75 and MG ZT Owners Club forum. A later post suggest
that it applies in most other European countries as well (except UK -
yet):

snip

This has been in force in Spain for some time. When I went over
in 2006, I just bought a cheapo one from Lidl (about £2). A lot
of drivers there keep it slung over the back of the driver's seat.
(In spain you also have to carry a "danger" triangle, by law, too)

Also as I recall in Spain if you wear glasses you have to carry a spare
pair in the car. These rules seem bloody crazy to me. How likely is it
that your glasses will break during a single car journey? Maybe it makes
more sense if you're going over there on holiday for two weeks but every
Spanish motorist having to take two pairs of specs every time they go
shopping is just lunacy. It's no doubt been very good for the Spanish
optician's industry though.
--


Well, yes, if they are stupid enough to *take* 2 pairs with them every trip.
More sensible people just keep their spare pair in the car...


Never having (irretrievably) broken my specs since I was a kid I've
never really thought about the implications of breaking a pair when
miles away from home in the car; but this thread has made me think and
the above is a damned good idea! Will move my spare pair to the car this
morning!

David
  #28   Report Post  
Posted to uk.d-i-y
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 4,555
Default OT - Driving In France, new law!

nightjar cpb@ wrote:
"Dave Baker" wrote in message
...
"Peter Lynch" wrote in message
...

...
This has been in force in Spain for some time. When I went over
in 2006, I just bought a cheapo one from Lidl (about £2). A lot
of drivers there keep it slung over the back of the driver's seat.
(In spain you also have to carry a "danger" triangle, by law, too)


Mine is a Class 1 lightweight sleeved vest that simply tucks into the map
pocket behind the passenger's seat.


What's the difference between Class 1 and 2 (and any others?) - anyone
know if you need a particular type for driving in Europe?

Bit worried as I've just blown 1.78 GBP on a Class 2 hi-vis vest off
ebay having read about this: hope to God I haven't wasted my money... ;-)

David
  #29   Report Post  
Posted to uk.d-i-y
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 3,348
Default OT - Driving In France, new law!

On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 23:25:06 UTC, chris French
wrote:

In message , Dave Baker
writes

"Peter Lynch" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 12:47:38 +0100, DavidM wrote:
In case you haven't heard (and I didn't know), just picked this up
from the Rover 75 and MG ZT Owners Club forum. A later post suggest
that it applies in most other European countries as well (except UK -
yet):

snip

This has been in force in Spain for some time. When I went over
in 2006, I just bought a cheapo one from Lidl (about ΓΊ2). A lot
of drivers there keep it slung over the back of the driver's seat.
(In spain you also have to carry a "danger" triangle, by law, too)


Also as I recall in Spain if you wear glasses you have to carry a spare pair
in the car. These rules seem bloody crazy to me. How likely is it that your
glasses will break during a single car journey?


Not that common, but when it does, it can be a right PITA - BTDTGTTS. Ok
if you are just a few miles away from home in town. Getting me and the
two kids the 20+ miles we are regularly away from home, with a poor bus
service less OK.

Maybe it makes more sense if
you're going over there on holiday for two weeks but every Spanish motorist
having to take two pairs of specs every time they go shopping is just
lunacy.


Not really, you just stick a spare pare in the car and leave them there.

It's no doubt been very good for the Spanish optician's industry
though.


surely most people just keep an old pair in the car, that's what I've
done for years. The prescription might be slightly 'off' but they are
fine.


I just have a cheap pair from Glasses Direct - 15 quid.

--
The information contained in this post is copyright the
poster, and specifically may not be published in, or used by
http://www.diybanter.com
  #30   Report Post  
Posted to uk.d-i-y
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 11,175
Default OT - Driving In France, new law!

In article ,
DavidM writes:
I've found a company that sells suitable jackets for £1.69 each (plus
a few pence for P&P).


I've got a few I've picked up over the years at market stalls.
One that stays in the boot of the car is a very nice thick padded
coat with a hood rolled into the collar. It was under £10.
Initially bought it for the bicycle in the winter, but it was
too hot for that. I've used it at the scene of one accident and
one breakdown (neither my own, I'm glad to say).
The others are sleaveless open fronted vests, which again I bought
for the bicycle, and I think they were around £2 from market
stalls. Real bicycle gear with the same 3M scotchguard reflector on
it costs a load more, and you get a titchy amount of the reflector.

--
Andrew Gabriel
[email address is not usable -- followup in the newsgroup]


  #31   Report Post  
Posted to uk.d-i-y
Rod Rod is offline
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 2,892
Default OT - Driving In France, new law!

wrote:
On 23 Jul,
Lobster wrote:

Never having (irretrievably) broken my specs since I was a kid I've
never really thought about the implications of breaking a pair when
miles away from home in the car; but this thread has made me think and
the above is a damned good idea! Will move my spare pair to the car this
morning!


I was in the same boat until about 15 years ago. Apart from the odd screw
coming loose, and forgetting where I'd put them the night before after
arriving back intoxicated, I had no problems since about age 15.

Then I took my daughter to swim in the sea, to prepare her for a lifesaving
test in open water. I didn't intend to swim, just go in, and left my glasses
on. Once in, I changed my mind and started to swim in th North sea, and
discovered I could no longer see. I then realised I hadn't been wearing my
prescription goggles, but my glasses.

I had to stagger to the phone in a nearby pub in order to get SWMBO to find??
suitable spare specs and drive the 30 miles to where I was. Fortunately we'd
just got a second car. I now have a spare pair in each car, and carry
additional spares as well.


I thought I was the only plonker who did things like lose glasses in the
sea... :-)

--
Rod

Hypothyroidism is a seriously debilitating condition with an insidious
onset.
Although common it frequently goes undiagnosed.
www.thyromind.info www.thyroiduk.org www.altsupportthyroid.org
  #32   Report Post  
Posted to uk.d-i-y
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 1,118
Default OT - Driving In France, new law!

"nightjar" cpb@insert my surname here.me.uk wrote:


"Owain" wrote in message
...
nightjar cpb@ wrote:
My pilot's licence requires me to carry a spare pair when flying too. I
routinely have a spare pair in the car and carry a pair (sometimes two)
in my coat, but, with my eyesight, I would need one of the spare pairs to
find the main pair if I dropped them.


You need a miniaturised version of the old "find your keys"
whistle-activated bleeper.


I'd still need to see where the noise was coming from



I saw one only the other day which had a flashing red LED as well as
the bleeping sound.

I wish I could remember where I saw it. :-(

  #33   Report Post  
Posted to uk.d-i-y
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 1,118
Default OT - Driving In France, new law!

Adrian wrote:

Bruce gurgled happily, sounding much like they were
saying:

surely most people just keep an old pair in the car, that's what I've
done for years. The prescription might be slightly 'off' but they are
fine.


aol

Me too!

/aol


waves

I managed to roll up and pack a tent away once without removing my
glasses from the pocket in the inner liner. Gaffer tape only goes so far
in repairing them.



Only Elastoplast will do. As Jack Duckworth would tell you. ;-)

  #34   Report Post  
Posted to uk.d-i-y
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 4,905
Default OT - Driving In France, new law!

Bruce gurgled happily, sounding much like they were
saying:

I managed to roll up and pack a tent away once without removing my
glasses from the pocket in the inner liner. Gaffer tape only goes so far
in repairing them.


Only Elastoplast will do.


Ah, but I had some gaffer tape with me...

As Jack Duckworth would tell you. ;-)


Who? No, I probably don't want to know.
  #35   Report Post  
Posted to uk.d-i-y
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 6
Default OT - Driving In France, new law!

In article 3752c192-9e96-46b5-bbbf-c4dca6ce8700
@i76g2000hsf.googlegroups.com, says...


Speaking of which, you know the pathologist on one of the CSIs who has
a pair that snap together? How do they work? Magnets? The action is
always too fast on the screen to make out what happens.

Neodymium magnet, see
http://www.glassesdirect.co.uk/relea..._30000065.html

Haven't tried them myself - I go for their cheaper types. Are they
compass safe? :-)
--
John W
To mail me replace the obvious with co.uk twice


  #36   Report Post  
Posted to uk.d-i-y
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 4,555
Default OT - Driving In France, new law!

John W. wrote:
In article 3752c192-9e96-46b5-bbbf-c4dca6ce8700
@i76g2000hsf.googlegroups.com, says...

Speaking of which, you know the pathologist on one of the CSIs who has
a pair that snap together? How do they work? Magnets? The action is
always too fast on the screen to make out what happens.

Neodymium magnet, see
http://www.glassesdirect.co.uk/relea..._30000065.html


I'm just thinking - why? Am I missing something?

David
  #37   Report Post  
Posted to uk.d-i-y
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 2,735
Default OT - Driving In France, new law!

nightjar cpb@ wrote:

My pilot's licence requires me to carry a spare pair when flying too. I
routinely have a spare pair in the car and carry a pair (sometimes two) in
my coat, but, with my eyesight, I would need one of the spare pairs to find
the main pair if I dropped them.


The only other ppl I know, still has good vision in both eyes. Can you
continue to fly with a cataract on one eye like can do when driving?

Dave
  #38   Report Post  
Posted to uk.d-i-y
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 2,735
Default OT - Driving In France, new law!

chris French wrote:


surely most people just keep an old pair in the car, that's what I've
done for years. The prescription might be slightly 'off' but they are fine.


Which brings up the point of would they check your vision with the spare
pair and are they qualified to do that?

Dave
  #39   Report Post  
Posted to uk.d-i-y
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 4,410
Default OT - Driving In France, new law!


"Lobster" wrote in message
...
nightjar cpb@ wrote:
"Dave Baker" wrote in message
...
"Peter Lynch" wrote in message
...

...
This has been in force in Spain for some time. When I went over
in 2006, I just bought a cheapo one from Lidl (about £2). A lot
of drivers there keep it slung over the back of the driver's seat.
(In spain you also have to carry a "danger" triangle, by law, too)


Mine is a Class 1 lightweight sleeved vest that simply tucks into the map
pocket behind the passenger's seat.


What's the difference between Class 1 and 2 (and any others?) - anyone
know if you need a particular type for driving in Europe?


Class 1 is the lowest approved level of protection. Class 3 is the highest
and is intended for constant use on motorways. The difference appears to be
the amount of reflective material used. SFAIK, the class is not specified
for use in cars in any of the european legislation.

Bit worried as I've just blown 1.78 GBP on a Class 2 hi-vis vest off ebay
having read about this: hope to God I haven't wasted my money... ;-)


Colin Bignell


  #40   Report Post  
Posted to uk.d-i-y
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 4,410
Default OT - Driving In France, new law!


"Dave" wrote in message
...
nightjar cpb@ wrote:

My pilot's licence requires me to carry a spare pair when flying too. I
routinely have a spare pair in the car and carry a pair (sometimes two)
in my coat, but, with my eyesight, I would need one of the spare pairs to
find the main pair if I dropped them.


The only other ppl I know, still has good vision in both eyes. Can you
continue to fly with a cataract on one eye like can do when driving?


I suspect the CAA would require a safety pilot to be aboard, but it is not
something I have needed to ask them about. By the time most people are
likely to be prone to cataracts, they will be on 12 or 6 monthly medicals
(which include a vision test) anyway.

Colin Bignell


Reply
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules

Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT +1. The time now is 01:34 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©2004-2024 DIYbanter.
The comments are property of their posters.
 

About Us

"It's about DIY & home improvement"