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In case you haven't heard (and I didn't know), just picked this up
from the Rover 75 and MG ZT Owners Club forum. A later post suggest that it applies in most other European countries as well (except UK - yet): "A new law (applicable now) means any person planning to drive in France must carry a reflective jacket from now on. In an emergency, the jacket must be easily accessible by the driver and must be put on before leaving the car, day or night, regardless of visibility. As of 1 October 2008, any person found not complying will face a 135 euro fine (90 euro if paid early). I've not seen any reference requiring passengers to have a jacket, so it looks like the driver only (at this stage). For me, the new news was that the jacket has to be accessible from inside the car. I was relying on mine being inside the tailgate along with the warning triangle. That's not good enough! From October 2008, cyclists will need high viz jackets outside built-up areas too - and we think the UK is bad for Health and Safety! I've found a company that sells suitable jackets for £1.69 each (plus a few pence for P&P). http://www.vizwear.com/detail.php?p=1&c=0.1&subc=1 I've no connection with the company, but plenty of connection with trying to make my money go as far as it can!" PLUS "Yep,confirmed 135 euros,i work over here in France and we were told to get one in our cars ASAP,so we put it in the boot as is the norm we thought,wrong,easily accesible is the wording and as such in the car it is,most of le frogs seem to be sticking it over the passenger seat at the moment and the Gendarmes are having a field day with Brit tourists down here (Toulouse area),so invest in the kit and stick it in the car not in the boot. Oh,and it's from July 1st according to our bosses!!!" |
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On 2008-07-22 12:47:38 +0100, DavidM said:
In case you haven't heard (and I didn't know), just picked this up from the Rover 75 and MG ZT Owners Club forum. A later post suggest that it applies in most other European countries as well (except UK - yet): "A new law (applicable now) means any person planning to drive in France must carry a reflective jacket from now on. In an emergency, the jacket must be easily accessible by the driver and must be put on before leaving the car, day or night, regardless of visibility. As of 1 October 2008, any person found not complying will face a 135 euro fine (90 euro if paid early). I've not seen any reference requiring passengers to have a jacket, so it looks like the driver only (at this stage). For me, the new news was that the jacket has to be accessible from inside the car. I was relying on mine being inside the tailgate along with the warning triangle. That's not good enough! From October 2008, cyclists will need high viz jackets outside built-up areas too - and we think the UK is bad for Health and Safety! I've found a company that sells suitable jackets for £1.69 each (plus a few pence for P&P). http://www.vizwear.com/detail.php?p=1&c=0.1&subc=1 I've no connection with the company, but plenty of connection with trying to make my money go as far as it can!" PLUS "Yep,confirmed 135 euros,i work over here in France and we were told to get one in our cars ASAP,so we put it in the boot as is the norm we thought,wrong,easily accesible is the wording and as such in the car it is,most of le frogs seem to be sticking it over the passenger seat at the moment and the Gendarmes are having a field day with Brit tourists down here (Toulouse area),so invest in the kit and stick it in the car not in the boot. Oh,and it's from July 1st according to our bosses!!!" I remember reading about this last year and bought one anyway. I didn't pick up on the must be in car angle, but it's fairly obvious |
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DavidM wrote:
"A new law (applicable now) means any person planning to drive in France must carry a reflective jacket from now on. In an emergency, the jacket must be easily accessible by the driver and must be put on before leaving the car, day or night, regardless of visibility. As of 1 October 2008, any person found not complying will face a 135 euro fine (90 euro if paid early). Imagine the howls of outrage if that idea was implemented in the UK! It seems quite sensible to me. ;-) |
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DavidM wrote:
"A new law (applicable now) means any person planning to drive in France must carry a reflective jacket from now on. In an emergency, the jacket must be easily accessible by the driver and must be put on before leaving the car, day or night, regardless of visibility. "Yep,confirmed 135 euros,i work over here in France and we were told to get one in our cars ASAP,so we put it in the boot as is the norm we thought,wrong,easily accesible is the wording and as such in the car it is,most of le frogs seem to be sticking it over the passenger seat at the moment and the Gendarmes are having a field day with Brit tourists down here I used to keep one visible in the car, but found the sun bleached it, rather defeating the object. Chris -- Chris J Dixon Nottingham UK Have dancing shoes, will ceilidh. |
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On 22 Jul, 13:17, Chris J Dixon wrote:
DavidM wrote: "A new law (applicable now) means any person planning to drive in France must carry a reflective jacket from now on. In an emergency, the jacket must be easily accessible by the driver and must be put on before leaving the car, day or night, regardless of visibility. "Yep,confirmed 135 euros,i work over here in France and we were told to get one in our cars ASAP,so we put it in the boot as is the norm we thought,wrong,easily accesible is the wording and as such in the car it is,most of le frogs seem to be sticking it over the passenger seat at the moment and the Gendarmes are having a field day with Brit tourists down here I used to keep one visible in the car, but found the sun bleached it, rather defeating the object. One wonders whether it would be acceptable to have it in the boot - if the boot can be accessed from inside the car by putting down the rear seats. Andrew |
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Andrew gurgled happily, sounding much like they
were saying: One wonders whether it would be acceptable to have it in the boot - if the boot can be accessed from inside the car by putting down the rear seats. AIUI, the test for accessibility is "Can the driver get to it in order to be wearing it BEFORE getting out of the vehicle?" Of course, whether you _can_ actually don it whilst still sat behind the wheel is another question... |
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Chris J Dixon wrote:
DavidM wrote: "A new law (applicable now) means any person planning to drive in France must carry a reflective jacket from now on. In an emergency, the jacket must be easily accessible by the driver and must be put on before leaving the car, day or night, regardless of visibility. "Yep,confirmed 135 euros,i work over here in France and we were told to get one in our cars ASAP,so we put it in the boot as is the norm we thought,wrong,easily accesible is the wording and as such in the car it is,most of le frogs seem to be sticking it over the passenger seat at the moment and the Gendarmes are having a field day with Brit tourists down here I used to keep one visible in the car, but found the sun bleached it, rather defeating the object. Not really, the yellow might bleach out, but the important part, the reflective strip, will be OK. BTDTWTTS Dave |
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"Chris J Dixon" wrote in message ... DavidM wrote: "A new law (applicable now) means any person planning to drive in France must carry a reflective jacket from now on. In an emergency, the jacket must be easily accessible by the driver and must be put on before leaving the car, day or night, regardless of visibility. "Yep,confirmed 135 euros,i work over here in France and we were told to get one in our cars ASAP,so we put it in the boot as is the norm we thought,wrong,easily accesible is the wording and as such in the car it is,most of le frogs seem to be sticking it over the passenger seat at the moment and the Gendarmes are having a field day with Brit tourists down here I used to keep one visible in the car, but found the sun bleached it, rather defeating the object. Chris Washing them also bleaches them. Most of my hi-viz stuff had a "maximum number of washes allowed" sticker attached to them. Adam |
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In message , DavidM
writes In case you haven't heard (and I didn't know), just picked this up from the Rover 75 and MG ZT Owners Club forum. A later post suggest that it applies in most other European countries as well (except UK - yet): "A new law (applicable now) means any person planning to drive in France must carry a reflective jacket from now on. In an emergency, the jacket must be easily accessible by the driver and must be put on before leaving the car, day or night, regardless of visibility. As of 1 October 2008, any person found not complying will face a 135 euro fine (90 euro if paid early). I've been carrying a couple for two years now - better move them out of the boot -- geoff |
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geoff coughed up some electrons that declared:
In message , DavidM writes In case you haven't heard (and I didn't know), just picked this up from the Rover 75 and MG ZT Owners Club forum. A later post suggest that it applies in most other European countries as well (except UK - yet): "A new law (applicable now) means any person planning to drive in France must carry a reflective jacket from now on. In an emergency, the jacket must be easily accessible by the driver and must be put on before leaving the car, day or night, regardless of visibility. As of 1 October 2008, any person found not complying will face a 135 euro fine (90 euro if paid early). I've been carrying a couple for two years now - better move them out of the boot Odd, because when I went to Belgium in Nov 2006, I was reading up on the continental rules on some website. As I result I've got a jacket under the driver's seat. Now, I can't remember if the website said mandatory in Belgium, or France or whether I misread it or whether the site was talking nonsense, but I formulated the opinion back then that I had to have one or I might get busted. So this thread took me by surprise :=0 Cheers Tim |
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In message , Tim S
writes geoff coughed up some electrons that declared: In message , DavidM writes In case you haven't heard (and I didn't know), just picked this up from the Rover 75 and MG ZT Owners Club forum. A later post suggest that it applies in most other European countries as well (except UK - yet): "A new law (applicable now) means any person planning to drive in France must carry a reflective jacket from now on. In an emergency, the jacket must be easily accessible by the driver and must be put on before leaving the car, day or night, regardless of visibility. As of 1 October 2008, any person found not complying will face a 135 euro fine (90 euro if paid early). I've been carrying a couple for two years now - better move them out of the boot Odd, because when I went to Belgium in Nov 2006, I was reading up on the continental rules on some website. As I result I've got a jacket under the driver's seat. Now, I can't remember if the website said mandatory in Belgium, or France or whether I misread it or whether the site was talking nonsense, but I formulated the opinion back then that I had to have one or I might get busted. So this thread took me by surprise :=0 I'm sure that they said it was mandatory in France at the port in other words - lets see how many of these jackets we can scare people into buying at our highly inflated prices -- geoff |
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Tim S wrote:
Odd, because when I went to Belgium in Nov 2006, I was reading up on the continental rules on some website. As I result I've got a jacket under the driver's seat. Now, I can't remember if the website said mandatory in Belgium, or France or whether I misread it or whether the site was talking nonsense, but I formulated the opinion back then that I had to have one or I might get busted. So this thread took me by surprise :=0 Cheers Tim I bought one before the last time I went over. But I'll move it to where I can reach it! Andy |
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DavidM wrote:
In case you haven't heard (and I didn't know), just picked this up from the Rover 75 and MG ZT Owners Club forum. A later post suggest that it applies in most other European countries as well (except UK - yet): "A new law (applicable now) means any person planning to drive in France must carry a reflective jacket from now on. Does this new law define what the jacket must consist of. Most small van drivers are issued with a reflective vest, does this cover that law? Just done a test on mine and it can be rolled up to 6 inches long and less than 3 inches in diam. I might just put it in the rear of my drivers door pocket, since it takes up next to no room stood up tall. Like others, I carry a full suit in the boot, in case I break down and have to walk for a phone. I don't mind wet feet, I can get over that providing my body is dry and out of the wind. Dave |
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On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 12:47:38 +0100, DavidM wrote:
In case you haven't heard (and I didn't know), just picked this up from the Rover 75 and MG ZT Owners Club forum. A later post suggest that it applies in most other European countries as well (except UK - yet): snip This has been in force in Spain for some time. When I went over in 2006, I just bought a cheapo one from Lidl (about £2). A lot of drivers there keep it slung over the back of the driver's seat. (In spain you also have to carry a "danger" triangle, by law, too) -- .. Pete Lynch I have learned from my mistakes and .. Marlow ... I am sure I can repeat them exactly .. www.pete-lynch.com --- Peter Cooke. |
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"Peter Lynch" wrote in message ... On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 12:47:38 +0100, DavidM wrote: In case you haven't heard (and I didn't know), just picked this up from the Rover 75 and MG ZT Owners Club forum. A later post suggest that it applies in most other European countries as well (except UK - yet): snip This has been in force in Spain for some time. When I went over in 2006, I just bought a cheapo one from Lidl (about £2). A lot of drivers there keep it slung over the back of the driver's seat. (In spain you also have to carry a "danger" triangle, by law, too) Also as I recall in Spain if you wear glasses you have to carry a spare pair in the car. These rules seem bloody crazy to me. How likely is it that your glasses will break during a single car journey? Maybe it makes more sense if you're going over there on holiday for two weeks but every Spanish motorist having to take two pairs of specs every time they go shopping is just lunacy. It's no doubt been very good for the Spanish optician's industry though. -- Dave Baker |
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In message , Dave Baker
writes "Peter Lynch" wrote in message ... On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 12:47:38 +0100, DavidM wrote: In case you haven't heard (and I didn't know), just picked this up from the Rover 75 and MG ZT Owners Club forum. A later post suggest that it applies in most other European countries as well (except UK - yet): snip This has been in force in Spain for some time. When I went over in 2006, I just bought a cheapo one from Lidl (about £2). A lot of drivers there keep it slung over the back of the driver's seat. (In spain you also have to carry a "danger" triangle, by law, too) Also as I recall in Spain if you wear glasses you have to carry a spare pair in the car. It's the law in Germany I just keep a spare pair as it seems a good idea .... along with the first aid kit, spare set of bulbs triangle and hi-viz vest -- geoff |
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"Dave Baker" wrote:
Also as I recall in Spain if you wear glasses you have to carry a spare pair in the car. These rules seem bloody crazy to me. How likely is it that your glasses will break during a single car journey? Maybe it makes more sense if you're going over there on holiday for two weeks but every Spanish motorist having to take two pairs of specs every time they go shopping is just lunacy. It's no doubt been very good for the Spanish optician's industry though. It isn't crazy at all. I recall a weekend trip away with my son when I broke my glasses ... my wife had to drive a 270 mile round trip to bring me a spare pair. Now she makes sure I always take a spare pair with me. I keep it in the car. |
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"Dave Baker" wrote in message ... "Peter Lynch" wrote in message ... .... This has been in force in Spain for some time. When I went over in 2006, I just bought a cheapo one from Lidl (about £2). A lot of drivers there keep it slung over the back of the driver's seat. (In spain you also have to carry a "danger" triangle, by law, too) Mine is a Class 1 lightweight sleeved vest that simply tucks into the map pocket behind the passenger's seat. Also as I recall in Spain if you wear glasses you have to carry a spare pair in the car. These rules seem bloody crazy to me. How likely is it that your glasses will break during a single car journey? Maybe it makes more sense if you're going over there on holiday for two weeks but every Spanish motorist having to take two pairs of specs every time they go shopping is just lunacy. It's no doubt been very good for the Spanish optician's industry though. My pilot's licence requires me to carry a spare pair when flying too. I routinely have a spare pair in the car and carry a pair (sometimes two) in my coat, but, with my eyesight, I would need one of the spare pairs to find the main pair if I dropped them. Colin Bignell |
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nightjar cpb@ wrote:
"Dave Baker" wrote in message ... "Peter Lynch" wrote in message ... ... This has been in force in Spain for some time. When I went over in 2006, I just bought a cheapo one from Lidl (about £2). A lot of drivers there keep it slung over the back of the driver's seat. (In spain you also have to carry a "danger" triangle, by law, too) Mine is a Class 1 lightweight sleeved vest that simply tucks into the map pocket behind the passenger's seat. What's the difference between Class 1 and 2 (and any others?) - anyone know if you need a particular type for driving in Europe? Bit worried as I've just blown 1.78 GBP on a Class 2 hi-vis vest off ebay having read about this: hope to God I haven't wasted my money... ;-) David |
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"Lobster" wrote in message ... nightjar cpb@ wrote: "Dave Baker" wrote in message ... "Peter Lynch" wrote in message ... ... This has been in force in Spain for some time. When I went over in 2006, I just bought a cheapo one from Lidl (about £2). A lot of drivers there keep it slung over the back of the driver's seat. (In spain you also have to carry a "danger" triangle, by law, too) Mine is a Class 1 lightweight sleeved vest that simply tucks into the map pocket behind the passenger's seat. What's the difference between Class 1 and 2 (and any others?) - anyone know if you need a particular type for driving in Europe? Class 1 is the lowest approved level of protection. Class 3 is the highest and is intended for constant use on motorways. The difference appears to be the amount of reflective material used. SFAIK, the class is not specified for use in cars in any of the european legislation. Bit worried as I've just blown 1.78 GBP on a Class 2 hi-vis vest off ebay having read about this: hope to God I haven't wasted my money... ;-) Colin Bignell |
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nightjar cpb@ wrote:
My pilot's licence requires me to carry a spare pair when flying too. I routinely have a spare pair in the car and carry a pair (sometimes two) in my coat, but, with my eyesight, I would need one of the spare pairs to find the main pair if I dropped them. The only other ppl I know, still has good vision in both eyes. Can you continue to fly with a cataract on one eye like can do when driving? Dave |
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"Dave" wrote in message ... nightjar cpb@ wrote: My pilot's licence requires me to carry a spare pair when flying too. I routinely have a spare pair in the car and carry a pair (sometimes two) in my coat, but, with my eyesight, I would need one of the spare pairs to find the main pair if I dropped them. The only other ppl I know, still has good vision in both eyes. Can you continue to fly with a cataract on one eye like can do when driving? I suspect the CAA would require a safety pilot to be aboard, but it is not something I have needed to ask them about. By the time most people are likely to be prone to cataracts, they will be on 12 or 6 monthly medicals (which include a vision test) anyway. Colin Bignell |
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We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember Dave saying something like: The only other ppl I know, still has good vision in both eyes. Can you continue to fly with a cataract on one eye like can do when driving? Most certainly. I used to know a one-eyed PPL - a bit of a git, but that was nothing to do with his flying, which was technically quite good (apart from when he put my life at risk, but that was a one-off). He did say his flying test was quite intensive. He's lost an eye when a kid, so was well used to it. -- Dave GS850x2 XS650 SE6a "It's a moron working with power tools. How much more suspenseful can you get?" - House |
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On 23 Jul, 01:26, geoff wrote:
In message , writesOn 22 Jul, * * "nightjar" cpb@insert my surname here.me.uk wrote: with my eyesight, I would need one of the spare pairs to find the main pair if I dropped them. Being very short sighted and at the age reading glasses need to be strong, I often take off my glasses in order to work on close objects. I usually put them down in an obvious place, but occasionally I have to find the spare pair in order to find the main ones. At a time when that was the case for me also, I once put my glasses down beside me. Some papers fell down on top of them, but I continued working. Later, when I came to lift the papers to put them back on, there they were -- gone! I moved everything in that corner of the room but couldn't find them, and missed a meeting I was supposed to be at that evening. In the end I had to get a new pair. It was only several years later when I moved house that they emerged. Somehow, they had jumped into a bookshelf and fallen behind some rarely-used books. you need one of those cords so they can dangle ... Speaking of which, you know the pathologist on one of the CSIs who has a pair that snap together? How do they work? Magnets? The action is always too fast on the screen to make out what happens. Chris |
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"geoff" wrote in message ... In message , writes On 22 Jul, "nightjar" cpb@insert my surname here.me.uk wrote: with my eyesight, I would need one of the spare pairs to find the main pair if I dropped them. Being very short sighted and at the age reading glasses need to be strong, I often take off my glasses in order to work on close objects. I usually put them down in an obvious place, but occasionally I have to find the spare pair in order to find the main ones. you need one of those cords so they can dangle ... One of my pairs came with a sports strap, which fits tightly across the back of the head and stops them coming off accidentally. I've yet to use it. Colin Bignell |
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In message , Dave Baker
writes "Peter Lynch" wrote in message ... On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 12:47:38 +0100, DavidM wrote: In case you haven't heard (and I didn't know), just picked this up from the Rover 75 and MG ZT Owners Club forum. A later post suggest that it applies in most other European countries as well (except UK - yet): snip This has been in force in Spain for some time. When I went over in 2006, I just bought a cheapo one from Lidl (about £2). A lot of drivers there keep it slung over the back of the driver's seat. (In spain you also have to carry a "danger" triangle, by law, too) Also as I recall in Spain if you wear glasses you have to carry a spare pair in the car. These rules seem bloody crazy to me. How likely is it that your glasses will break during a single car journey? Not that common, but when it does, it can be a right PITA - BTDTGTTS. Ok if you are just a few miles away from home in town. Getting me and the two kids the 20+ miles we are regularly away from home, with a poor bus service less OK. Maybe it makes more sense if you're going over there on holiday for two weeks but every Spanish motorist having to take two pairs of specs every time they go shopping is just lunacy. Not really, you just stick a spare pare in the car and leave them there. It's no doubt been very good for the Spanish optician's industry though. surely most people just keep an old pair in the car, that's what I've done for years. The prescription might be slightly 'off' but they are fine. -- Chris French |
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surely most people just keep an old pair in the car, that's what I've done for years. The prescription might be slightly 'off' but they are fine. aol Me too! /aol |
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Bruce gurgled happily, sounding much like they were
saying: surely most people just keep an old pair in the car, that's what I've done for years. The prescription might be slightly 'off' but they are fine. aol Me too! /aol waves I managed to roll up and pack a tent away once without removing my glasses from the pocket in the inner liner. Gaffer tape only goes so far in repairing them. |
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On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 23:25:06 UTC, chris French
wrote: In message , Dave Baker writes "Peter Lynch" wrote in message ... On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 12:47:38 +0100, DavidM wrote: In case you haven't heard (and I didn't know), just picked this up from the Rover 75 and MG ZT Owners Club forum. A later post suggest that it applies in most other European countries as well (except UK - yet): snip This has been in force in Spain for some time. When I went over in 2006, I just bought a cheapo one from Lidl (about ΓΊ2). A lot of drivers there keep it slung over the back of the driver's seat. (In spain you also have to carry a "danger" triangle, by law, too) Also as I recall in Spain if you wear glasses you have to carry a spare pair in the car. These rules seem bloody crazy to me. How likely is it that your glasses will break during a single car journey? Not that common, but when it does, it can be a right PITA - BTDTGTTS. Ok if you are just a few miles away from home in town. Getting me and the two kids the 20+ miles we are regularly away from home, with a poor bus service less OK. Maybe it makes more sense if you're going over there on holiday for two weeks but every Spanish motorist having to take two pairs of specs every time they go shopping is just lunacy. Not really, you just stick a spare pare in the car and leave them there. It's no doubt been very good for the Spanish optician's industry though. surely most people just keep an old pair in the car, that's what I've done for years. The prescription might be slightly 'off' but they are fine. I just have a cheap pair from Glasses Direct - 15 quid. -- The information contained in this post is copyright the poster, and specifically may not be published in, or used by http://www.diybanter.com |
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I just have a cheap pair from Glasses Direct - 15 quid. If it's just reading glasses you want, ASDA have 2 pairs in a pack for £2. Unbelievable. I am not sure why, but they are in the pharmacy section and not the optical section (£10 here) in out big Asda. |
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chris French wrote:
surely most people just keep an old pair in the car, that's what I've done for years. The prescription might be slightly 'off' but they are fine. Which brings up the point of would they check your vision with the spare pair and are they qualified to do that? Dave |
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... "Peter Lynch" wrote in message ... On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 12:47:38 +0100, DavidM wrote: In case you haven't heard (and I didn't know), just picked this up from the Rover 75 and MG ZT Owners Club forum. A later post suggest that it applies in most other European countries as well (except UK - yet): snip This has been in force in Spain for some time. When I went over in 2006, I just bought a cheapo one from Lidl (about £2). A lot of drivers there keep it slung over the back of the driver's seat. (In spain you also have to carry a "danger" triangle, by law, too) Also as I recall in Spain if you wear glasses you have to carry a spare pair in the car. These rules seem bloody crazy to me. How likely is it that your glasses will break during a single car journey? Maybe it makes more sense if you're going over there on holiday for two weeks but every Spanish motorist having to take two pairs of specs every time they go shopping is just lunacy. It's no doubt been very good for the Spanish optician's industry though. -- Well, yes, if they are stupid enough to *take* 2 pairs with them every trip. More sensible people just keep their spare pair in the car... -- Bob Mannix (anti-spam is as easy as 1-2-3 - not) |
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Bob Mannix wrote:
"Dave Baker" wrote in message ... "Peter Lynch" wrote in message ... On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 12:47:38 +0100, DavidM wrote: In case you haven't heard (and I didn't know), just picked this up from the Rover 75 and MG ZT Owners Club forum. A later post suggest that it applies in most other European countries as well (except UK - yet): snip This has been in force in Spain for some time. When I went over in 2006, I just bought a cheapo one from Lidl (about £2). A lot of drivers there keep it slung over the back of the driver's seat. (In spain you also have to carry a "danger" triangle, by law, too) Also as I recall in Spain if you wear glasses you have to carry a spare pair in the car. These rules seem bloody crazy to me. How likely is it that your glasses will break during a single car journey? Maybe it makes more sense if you're going over there on holiday for two weeks but every Spanish motorist having to take two pairs of specs every time they go shopping is just lunacy. It's no doubt been very good for the Spanish optician's industry though. -- Well, yes, if they are stupid enough to *take* 2 pairs with them every trip. More sensible people just keep their spare pair in the car... Never having (irretrievably) broken my specs since I was a kid I've never really thought about the implications of breaking a pair when miles away from home in the car; but this thread has made me think and the above is a damned good idea! Will move my spare pair to the car this morning! David |
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DavidM writes: I've found a company that sells suitable jackets for £1.69 each (plus a few pence for P&P). I've got a few I've picked up over the years at market stalls. One that stays in the boot of the car is a very nice thick padded coat with a hood rolled into the collar. It was under £10. Initially bought it for the bicycle in the winter, but it was too hot for that. I've used it at the scene of one accident and one breakdown (neither my own, I'm glad to say). The others are sleaveless open fronted vests, which again I bought for the bicycle, and I think they were around £2 from market stalls. Real bicycle gear with the same 3M scotchguard reflector on it costs a load more, and you get a titchy amount of the reflector. -- Andrew Gabriel [email address is not usable -- followup in the newsgroup] |
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