On Mon, 24 Jul 2006 23:52:41 +0100, Doctor Drivel wrote:

"Steve Firth" fresh in from kicking **** wrote in
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On Sun, 23 Jul 2006 13:35:28 +0100, Doctor Drivel wrote:

"Steve Firth" fresh in from kicking **** wrote in
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On Fri, 21 Jul 2006 17:27:01 +0100, Doctor Drivel wrote:

Made by Lotus

As was the chassis (and it is rumoured quite a bit more) of the
DeLorean, another car that was going to change the face of motoring.

The septics have a track record of making ****ing stupid claims about
cars and you have a track record of being ****ing stupid.

Yes, must disappoint you it's not a tractor makers.

Indeed, some of my favourite cars are Aston Martin, Lamborghini and
Ferrari.

snip kick****ter inane drivel

Perhaps you can show what was either inane or drivel?

This is clear that he can't even recognise inane drivel and babble. This is
a sad case indeed.

I can recognise both drivel and babble, if you want examples see your own
posts.

Any chance of you advancing beyond primary school level in youR attempts to
"argue"?

"Steve Firth" fresh in from kicking **** wrote in
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On Mon, 24 Jul 2006 23:01:57 GMT, John Stumbles wrote:

the effeciency of the electric vehicle is obviously going to be hugely
better than the IC vehicle).

Right up until the moment that you do the calculation correctly and factor
in generation and transmission efficiencies.

Which our **** kicker has not done. He guesses a lot though. Watch out for
guessing, this proves the condition is getting worse.

"Steve Firth" fresh in from kicking **** wrote in
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On Mon, 24 Jul 2006 23:52:41 +0100, Doctor Drivel wrote:

"Steve Firth" fresh in from kicking **** wrote in
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On Sun, 23 Jul 2006 13:35:28 +0100, Doctor Drivel wrote:

"Steve Firth" fresh in from kicking **** wrote
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On Fri, 21 Jul 2006 17:27:01 +0100, Doctor Drivel wrote:

Made by Lotus

snip kick****ter inane drivel

a sad case indeed. He needs a lot of work. Between him and Richard Cranium
they have lifetimes work ahead of them.

On Tue, 25 Jul 2006 00:50:16 +0100, Doctor Drivel wrote:

"Steve Firth" fresh in from kicking **** wrote in
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On Mon, 24 Jul 2006 23:01:57 GMT, John Stumbles wrote:

the effeciency of the electric vehicle is obviously going to be hugely
better than the IC vehicle).

Right up until the moment that you do the calculation correctly and factor
in generation and transmission efficiencies.

Which our **** kicker has not done.

Drivel. **** off, I'm not interested in your half-wit drooling retard
opinion.

On Tue, 25 Jul 2006 00:52:33 +0100, the witless **** Doctor Drivel wrote:
"Steve Firth" wrote in message ...
On Mon, 24 Jul 2006 23:52:41 +0100, the witless **** Doctor Drivel wrote:

"Steve Firth" wrote in message ...
On Sun, 23 Jul 2006 13:35:28 +0100, the witless **** Doctor Drivel wrote:

"Steve Firth" wrote in message .. .
On Fri, 21 Jul 2006 17:27:01 +0100, the witless **** Doctor Drivel wrote:

Made by Lotus

As was the chassis (and it is rumoured quite a bit more) of the
DeLorean, another car that was going to change the face of motoring.

The septics have a track record of making ****ing stupid claims about
cars and you have a track record of being ****ing stupid.

Yes, must disappoint you it's not a tractor makers.

Indeed, some of my favourite cars are Aston Martin, Lamborghini and
Ferrari.

snip kick****ter inane drivel

Perhaps you can show what was either inane or drivel?

This is clear that he can't even recognise inane drivel and babble. This is
a sad case indeed.

I can recognise both drivel and babble, if you want examples see your own
posts.

Any chance of you advancing beyond primary school level in your attempts to
"argue"?

a sad case indeed. He needs a lot of work. Between him and Richard Cranium
they have lifetimes work ahead of them.

Any chance of you advancing beyond primary school level in your attempts to
"argue"?

"Steve Firth" fresh in from kicking **** wrote in
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On Tue, 25 Jul 2006 00:50:16 +0100, Doctor Drivel wrote:

"Steve Firth" fresh in from kicking **** wrote in
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On Mon, 24 Jul 2006 23:01:57 GMT, John Stumbles wrote:

the effeciency of the electric vehicle
is obviously going to be hugely
better than the IC vehicle).

This is true.

Right up until the moment that you
do the calculation correctly and factor
in generation and transmission efficiencies.

This is not true.

Which our **** kicker has not done.

Drivel.

He is starting to do making upness a lot now. The condition is getting
worse. Sad. Very sad. He is a Little & Large fan you know.

"Steve Firth" fresh in from kicking **** wrote in
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A sad case indeed. He needs a lot of work.
Between him and Richard Cranium they
have lifetimes work ahead of them.

Any chance

There is not much chance at all. No, he will never be normal.

Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
The Natural Philosopher wrote:
so if the numerator and denominator are both zero that works out at 1
Err no, 0/0 is not 1.

It is actually incalculable.

Surely anything divided by zero is infinity?

But 0 divided by anything is still 0.
:-)

Two rules that collide head on..

The theory of infinitesimals can give you a value for two variables
divided one into the other that both approach zero at the same point.

In the case of an electric motor, its probably about 30% or less. As the
value from that perspective is the limit of the efficiency as the speed
tends to zero. Not normally very good.

However an IC car is definitely zero, since the engine still draws power
at rest..

Steve Firth wrote:
On Mon, 24 Jul 2006 23:01:57 GMT, John Stumbles wrote:

the effeciency of the electric vehicle is obviously going to be hugely
better than the IC vehicle).

Right up until the moment that you do the calculation correctly and factor
in generation and transmission efficiencies.

When it turns out to be reamarkably similar.

Steve Firth wrote:
On Tue, 25 Jul 2006 00:52:33 +0100, the witless **** Doctor Drivel wrote:

a sad case indeed. He needs a lot of work. Between him and Richard Cranium
they have lifetimes work ahead of them.

Any chance of you advancing beyond primary school level in your attempts to
"argue"?

Sadly, in the 4 or so years I've been around uk.d-i-y, the differential
with respect to time of Drivels maturity level has remained hivering
around the zero mark..;-)

John Rumm wrote:
Doctor Drivel wrote:

No replacement disc pads have been sold for a Pirus yet, the brake
regen does it all.

Complete ********.

The effective breaking "power" of something prius sized will be in the
order of several 100 horse power. Even short circuiting the motor is not
going to get you anything like that in back emf breaking.

Well it will do...a lot more than you might suppose..but in the end the
last few mph still needs the pads.

Electric trains use dynamic braking IIRC..and also brake discs for the
final stop.

But drivel has a point..anyone who drives a Prius is probably a tree
hugging cabbage eating veggie who thinks that the world should be
limited to a fast trot (comes of eating cabbages) and never even uses
the brakes..

On Tue, 25 Jul 2006 09:59:28 +0100, Doctor Drivel wrote:

There is not much chance at all. No, he will never be normal.

You talk about yourself in the third person.

On Tue, 25 Jul 2006 09:57:17 +0100, Doctor Drivel wrote:

"Steve Firth" fresh in from kicking **** wrote in
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On Tue, 25 Jul 2006 00:50:16 +0100, Doctor Drivel wrote:

"Steve Firth" fresh in from kicking **** wrote in
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On Mon, 24 Jul 2006 23:01:57 GMT, John Stumbles wrote:

the effeciency of the electric vehicle
is obviously going to be hugely
better than the IC vehicle).

This is true.

Right up until the moment that you
do the calculation correctly and factor
in generation and transmission efficiencies.

This is not true.

Which our **** kicker has not done.

Drivel. **** off, I'm not interested in your half-wit drooling retard
opinion.

He is starting to do making upness a lot now. The condition is getting
worse. Sad. Very sad. He is a Little & Large fan you know.

Your reading age is about that of a five year old. I leave it to others to
determine a five year old what.

On Tue, 25 Jul 2006 11:04:13 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

Steve Firth wrote:
On Mon, 24 Jul 2006 23:01:57 GMT, John Stumbles wrote:

the effeciency of the electric vehicle is obviously going to be hugely
better than the IC vehicle).

Right up until the moment that you do the calculation correctly and factor
in generation and transmission efficiencies.

When it turns out to be reamarkably similar.

Similar to IC, yes. So no advantage.

Thanks, I've a small perl script that does the same thing. The art is to
make it read correctly both vertically and horizontally.

Ooh, now that`s something I hadn`t thought of, although I suspect it
might be impossible for anything more than the simplest of words :-}
(unless i`m misunderstanding the horizontal & vertical description)

"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message
...

Sadly, in the 4 or so years I've been around uk.d-i-y, the differential
with respect to time of Drivels maturity level has remained hivering
around the zero mark..;-)

You would do because you are a snotty uni person.

"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message
...

But drivel has a point..anyone who drives a Prius is probably a tree
hugging cabbage eating veggie who thinks that the world should be limited
to a fast trot (comes of eating cabbages) and never even uses the brakes..

Those I know who have them, throw them around.

"Steve Firth" fresh in from kicking **** wrote in
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On Tue, 25 Jul 2006 09:59:28 +0100, Doctor Drivel wrote:

There is not much chance
at all. No, he will never be normal.

You talk

Sad isn't it. Terribly sad. I don't know who to blame. Thatcher must have
had a part in it.

"Steve Firth" fresh in from kicking **** wrote in
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He is starting to do making upness a lot now. The condition is getting
worse. Sad. Very sad. He is a Little & Large fan you know.

Your reading

It is very sad. Why don't the authorities do something about him?

"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message
...
Steve Firth wrote:
On Mon, 24 Jul 2006 23:01:57 GMT, John Stumbles wrote:

the effeciency of the electric vehicle is obviously going to be hugely
better than the IC vehicle).

Right up until the moment that you do the calculation correctly and
factor
in generation and transmission efficiencies.

When it turns out to be reamarkably similar.

Nope. The best of power generation and transmission equipment, localised
power stations and the picture is very different. EVs have the edge and no
polluting of cities either, so worth doing just for that alone. Then as
time moves on the situation will get better in power generating equipment
and EVS. A win, win.

On Tue, 25 Jul 2006 22:23:29 +0100, Doctor Drivel wrote:

"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message
...
Steve Firth wrote:
On Mon, 24 Jul 2006 23:01:57 GMT, John Stumbles wrote:

the effeciency of the electric vehicle is obviously going to be hugely
better than the IC vehicle).

Right up until the moment that you do the calculation correctly and
factor
in generation and transmission efficiencies.

When it turns out to be reamarkably similar.

Nope. The best of power generation and transmission equipment, localised
power stations and the picture is very different. EVs have the edge and no
polluting of cities either, so worth doing just for that alone. Then as
time moves on the situation will get better in power generating equipment
and EVS. A win, win.

Thermodynamics, just one of many subjects Drivel does not understand.

In article ,
John Rumm wrote:
No replacement disc pads have been sold for a Pirus yet, the brake
regen does it all.

Complete ********.

The effective breaking "power" of something prius sized will be in the
order of several 100 horse power. Even short circuiting the motor is not
going to get you anything like that in back emf breaking.

I'd imagine anyone who buys a Prius might well be the type who brakes
gently at all times. Even if it means hitting something.;-)

--
*I have plenty of talent and vision. I just don't care.

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

In article ews.net,
Doctor Drivel wrote:
I bet he hasn't cleaned that doggy doos off his loafers yet.

You seem fixated with **** and shoes. Have you asked your shrink why?

--
*Any connection between your reality and mine is purely coincidental

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

In article ews.net,
Doctor Drivel wrote:
But drivel has a point..anyone who drives a Prius is probably a tree
hugging cabbage eating veggie who thinks that the world should be
limited to a fast trot (comes of eating cabbages) and never even uses
the brakes..

Those I know who have them, throw them around.

Why would you buy a poor handling car to throw it around? And suffer the
diabolical fuel consumption when it's driven hard?

It simply makes no sense at all. Like you, in fact.

--
*When everything's coming your way, you're in the wrong lane *

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

In article ews.net,
Doctor Drivel wrote:
Right up until the moment that you do the calculation correctly and
factor
in generation and transmission efficiencies.

When it turns out to be reamarkably similar.

Nope. The best of power generation and transmission equipment,
localised power stations and the picture is very different.

How do you get the fuel to those localised power stations? Magic?

EVs have the edge and no polluting of cities either, so worth doing
just for that alone.

City only electric vehicles have been around for many a year - but sold in
tiny quantities.

Then as time moves on the situation will get better in power generating
equipment and EVS. A win, win.

More crystal ball gazing. How often have you won the lottery?

--
*If only you'd use your powers for good instead of evil.

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

"Steve Firth" fresh in from kicking **** wrote in
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On Tue, 25 Jul 2006 22:23:29 +0100, Doctor Drivel wrote:

"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message
...
Steve Firth wrote:
On Mon, 24 Jul 2006 23:01:57 GMT, John Stumbles wrote:

the effeciency of the electric vehicle is obviously going to be hugely
better than the IC vehicle).

Right up until the moment that you do the calculation correctly and
factor
in generation and transmission efficiencies.

When it turns out to be reamarkably similar.

Nope. The best of power generation and transmission equipment, localised
power stations and the picture is very different. EVs have the edge and
no
polluting of cities either, so worth doing just for that alone. Then as
time moves on the situation will get better in power generating equipment
and EVS. A win, win.

Thermodynamics,

Sad isn't it. He thinks he is a genius now. He got that word from a
dictionary you know.

"Dave Plowman (News)" through a haze of senile
flatulence wrote in message ...
In article ,
John Rumm wrote:
No replacement disc pads have been sold for a Pirus yet, the brake
regen does it all.

Complete ********.

The effective breaking "power" of something prius sized will be in the
order of several 100 horse power. Even short circuiting the motor is not
going to get you anything like that in back emf breaking.

I'd imagine anyone who buys a Prius might well be the type who brakes
gently at all times. Even if it means hitting something.;-)

Isn't that good, he is attempting jollies now.

"Dave Plowman (News)" through a haze of senile
flatulence wrote in message ...
In article ews.net,
Doctor Drivel wrote:

I bet he hasn't cleaned that doggy doos off his loafers yet.

You seem fixated

I hope he has cleaned the doggy doos off his loafer tonight. He makes a mess
on the carpets.

"Dave Plowman (News)" through a haze of senile
flatulence wrote in message ...
In article ews.net,
Doctor Drivel wrote:

But drivel has a point..anyone who drives a Prius is probably a tree
hugging cabbage eating veggie who thinks that the world should be
limited to a fast trot (comes of eating cabbages) and never even uses
the brakes..

Those I know who have them, throw them around.

Why would you buy

snip baabling senility

He just loves to make things up.

"Dave Plowman (News)" through a haze of senile
flatulence wrote in message ...
In article ews.net,
Doctor Drivel wrote:
Right up until the moment that you do the calculation correctly and
factor
in generation and transmission efficiencies.

When it turns out to be reamarkably similar.

Nope. The best of power generation and transmission equipment,
localised power stations and the picture is very different.

How do you get

snip babbling senility

Sad but he is drivelling on about total tripe.

Steve Firth wrote:
On Tue, 25 Jul 2006 11:04:13 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

Steve Firth wrote:
On Mon, 24 Jul 2006 23:01:57 GMT, John Stumbles wrote:

the effeciency of the electric vehicle is obviously going to be hugely
better than the IC vehicle).
Right up until the moment that you do the calculation correctly and factor
in generation and transmission efficiencies.
When it turns out to be reamarkably similar.

Similar to IC, yes. So no advantage.

Yes, and better than hydrogen.

However, 'no advantage' is a more sweeping statement than I would care
to make. Possibly in towns with regenerative braking there is an
electric edge.

Steve Firth wrote:
On Tue, 25 Jul 2006 22:23:29 +0100, Doctor Drivel wrote:

"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message
...
Steve Firth wrote:
On Mon, 24 Jul 2006 23:01:57 GMT, John Stumbles wrote:

the effeciency of the electric vehicle is obviously going to be hugely
better than the IC vehicle).
Right up until the moment that you do the calculation correctly and
factor
in generation and transmission efficiencies.
When it turns out to be reamarkably similar.
Nope. The best of power generation and transmission equipment, localised
power stations and the picture is very different. EVs have the edge and no
polluting of cities either, so worth doing just for that alone. Then as
time moves on the situation will get better in power generating equipment
and EVS. A win, win.

Thermodynamics, just one of many subjects Drivel does not understand.

s/many/all the/g

On Tue, 25 Jul 2006 20:38:05 +0100, Colin Wilson wrote:

Thanks, I've a small perl script that does the same thing. The art is to
make it read correctly both vertically and horizontally.

Ooh, now that`s something I hadn`t thought of, although I suspect it
might be impossible for anything more than the simplest of words :-}
(unless i`m misunderstanding the horizontal & vertical description)

DRIVEL IS A PILLOCK. DRIVEL IS A PILLOCK. D
RIVEL IS A PILLOCK. DRIVEL IS A PILLOCK. DR
IVEL IS A PILLOCK. DRIVEL IS A PILLOCK. DRI
VEL IS A PILLOCK. DRIVEL IS A PILLOCK. DRIV
EL IS A PILLOCK. DRIVEL IS A PILLOCK. DRIVE
L IS A PILLOCK. DRIVEL IS A PILLOCK. DRIVEL
IS A PILLOCK. DRIVEL IS A PILLOCK. DRIVEL
IS A PILLOCK. DRIVEL IS A PILLOCK. DRIVEL I
S A PILLOCK. DRIVEL IS A PILLOCK. DRIVEL IS
A PILLOCK. DRIVEL IS A PILLOCK. DRIVEL IS
A PILLOCK. DRIVEL IS A PILLOCK. DRIVEL IS A
PILLOCK. DRIVEL IS A PILLOCK. DRIVEL IS A
PILLOCK. DRIVEL IS A PILLOCK. DRIVEL IS A P
ILLOCK. DRIVEL IS A PILLOCK. DRIVEL IS A PI
LLOCK. DRIVEL IS A PILLOCK. DRIVEL IS A PIL.
LOCK. DRIVEL IS A PILLOCK. DRIVEL IS A PILL
OCK. DRIVEL IS A PILLOCK. DRIVEL IS A PILLO
CK. DRIVEL IS A PILLOCK. DRIVEL IS A PILLOC
K. DRIVEL IS A PILLOCK. DRIVEL IS A PILLOCK.

On Tue, 25 Jul 2006 22:17:45 +0100, Doctor Drivel wrote:

"Steve Firth" fresh in from kicking **** wrote in
message ...
On Tue, 25 Jul 2006 09:59:28 +0100, Doctor Drivel wrote:

There is not much chance
at all. No, he will never be normal.

You talk

Sad isn't it. Terribly sad. I don't know who to blame. Thatcher must have
had a part in it.

**** DRIVEL **** DRIVEL **** DRIVEL C
UNT DRIVEL **** DRIVEL **** DRIVEL CU
NT DRIVEL **** DRIVEL **** DRIVEL CUN
T DRIVEL **** DRIVEL **** DRIVEL ****
DRIVEL **** DRIVEL **** DRIVEL ****
DRIVEL **** DRIVEL **** DRIVEL **** D
RIVEL **** DRIVEL **** DRIVEL **** DR
IVEL **** DRIVEL **** DRIVEL **** DRI
VEL **** DRIVEL **** DRIVEL **** DRIV
EL **** DRIVEL **** DRIVEL **** DRIVE
L **** DRIVEL **** DRIVEL **** DRIVEL
**** DRIVEL **** DRIVEL **** DRIVEL
**** DRIVEL **** DRIVEL **** DRIVEL C
UNT DRIVEL **** DRIVEL **** DRIVEL CU
NT DRIVEL **** DRIVEL **** DRIVEL CUN
T DRIVEL **** DRIVEL **** DRIVEL ****

On Tue, 25 Jul 2006 23:37:20 +0100, Doctor Drivel wrote:

I eat doggy doos and love to roll around in cow ****.

Keep your perversions to yourself.

On Tue, 25 Jul 2006 23:46:00 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

Steve Firth wrote:
On Tue, 25 Jul 2006 11:04:13 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

Steve Firth wrote:
On Mon, 24 Jul 2006 23:01:57 GMT, John Stumbles wrote:

the effeciency of the electric vehicle is obviously going to be hugely
better than the IC vehicle).
Right up until the moment that you do the calculation correctly and factor
in generation and transmission efficiencies.
When it turns out to be reamarkably similar.

Similar to IC, yes. So no advantage.

Yes, and better than hydrogen.

However, 'no advantage' is a more sweeping statement than I would care
to make. Possibly in towns with regenerative braking there is an
electric edge.

As soon as they fit towns with regenerative braking, I'll reconsider.

"Steve Firth" fresh in from kicking **** wrote in
message ...
On Tue, 25 Jul 2006 20:38:05 +0100, Colin Wilson wrote:

Thanks, I've a small perl script that does the same thing. The art is to
make it read correctly both vertically and horizontally.

Ooh, now that`s something I hadn`t thought of, although I suspect it
might be impossible for anything more than the simplest of words :-}
(unless i`m misunderstanding the horizontal & vertical description)

DRIVEL

Oh my God, the **** kicker is writing many words, all the same. Sad isn't
it

"Steve Firth" fresh in from kicking **** wrote in
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On Tue, 25 Jul 2006 22:17:45 +0100, Doctor Drivel wrote:

"Steve Firth" fresh in from kicking **** wrote in
message ...
On Tue, 25 Jul 2006 09:59:28 +0100, Doctor Drivel wrote:

There is not much chance
at all. No, he will never be normal.

You talk

Sad isn't it. Terribly sad. I don't know who to blame. Thatcher must
have
had a part in it.

****

Oh my God the ****kicker is writing terrible words. How naughty indeed.

"Steve Firth" fresh in from kicking **** wrote in
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I eat doggy doos and love to roll around in cow ****.

My God, look what the is saying now. Well it takes all sorts I suppose.

On Wed, 26 Jul 2006 03:04:22 +0100, Doctor Drivel wrote:

"Steve Firth" fresh in from kicking **** wrote in
message ...
On Tue, 25 Jul 2006 20:38:05 +0100, Colin Wilson wrote:

Thanks, I've a small perl script that does the same thing. The art is to
make it read correctly both vertically and horizontally.

Ooh, now that`s something I hadn`t thought of, although I suspect it
might be impossible for anything more than the simplest of words :-}
(unless i`m misunderstanding the horizontal & vertical description)

DRIVEL

all the same, everything I erite, Sad isn't it

Indeed.