On Sun, 9 May 2021 09:55:49 -0700 (PDT), trader_4
wrote:

On Sunday, May 9, 2021 at 12:04:00 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Sun, 9 May 2021 11:54:38 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

On 5/9/2021 10:40 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 8 May 2021 23:16:32 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:



India is FUD and has nothing to do with our situation.
What is the vaccination rate in India?
What are the living conditions?
Poverty rate?
Quality of medical care?


The situation in India show that what we did works. Florida has opened
up but they also took precautions and vaccinated a lot of people to get
a jump on it. As a country, we are far better off than India with
availability.

If you want Darin to take over why not stop all childhood vaccinations
and see of Polio, smallpox and the like comes back. Measles is
increasing now that there are a lot of anti-vaxxers.


How did you make the leap from me saying people who are not willing to
take the shot are on their own to making me an anti vaxxer?
It seems like reading is not your long suit.

I did not point you out as an anti-vaxxer so I guess reading
comprehension is not your long suit.
Then what the **** was this all about
"If you want Darin to take over why not stop all childhood
vaccinations and see of Polio, smallpox and the like comes back.
Measles is increasing now that there are a lot of anti-vaxxers".
There are many people refusing the
vaccine, not just covid but all. The decrease in cases is showing it works.

The decrease may be due to the vaccine or it may just be due to more
people who have acquired immunity, we really don't know

Yes we do, it's both. And it's documented that far more people have achieved
immunity in the past 4 months from the vaccines.


but it is
clear this runs in cycles. We have had spikes and lulls in the
infections since this started.
Nobody has even come close to associating that with masks and
lockdowns.

Actually there is a good association, for those willing to look.

Show me. Real data, not just opinions.

The places with mandatory mask mandates and lockdowns did as badly as
those without and some were far worse..

On Sun, 09 May 2021 13:05:37 -0400, micky
wrote:

In alt.home.repair, on Sat, 08 May 2021 20:37:56 -0400,
wrote:

On Sat, 8 May 2021 18:50:21 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

On 5/8/2021 4:12 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 08 May 2021 14:22:58 -0400, micky
wrote:

**Apparently if vaccinated, there's almost no chance of dying even if
you're in the 6%, and on average you will get less sick, but I don't
know how much. I haven't seen details about that, except I just read the
paragraph above.

When are you folks going to admit we have fallen for hysteria?

If you are just going to get a little cold that you get over why are
we still being silly about this? The vaccine is available for anyone
who wants it and if they are waiting for Jesus to tell them to get it
they will meet him soon enough .... or not. We still don't have any
good numbers about how many people have acquired immunity from having
a mild case and getting over it. It is very likely they never got
tested so they are not in the stats.
Fauci predicted that might be 80% of those infected.


So what is happening in India is just hysteria? Seems sensible to take
some precautions until we know what is happening. Seems to be on the
right path but could stall if people refuse vaccinations.

At a certain point we can let Darwin decide. The vaccine is out there,
they keep saying it works, at a certain point it is like wearing a
motorcycle helmet. If these people are willing to duck the protection
available, they deserve what they get.

So everyone in your family has been fully vaccinated?

Yes

All your friends?

Yes

And if not, and someone dies it's his fault?

Yes, if they chose not to avail themselves of the vaccine. It is just
walk in and get your shot here. There is no excuse not to, assuming
it is as safe as you folks say.

That's how you regard your
family and friends?

Not relevant is it?



And you missed the entire point of my OP. Unvaccinated people endanger
the rest of us.

OK then you shouldn't care so much if they get sick and die then
should you. You think they are a menace.


The reality is the hysteria is not reflected in the results. Florida

Oh, yes, you scientific sage. There will be no more outbreaks because
50% of Florida is vaccinated!

I doubt we will ever get anywhere close to 100% or even 80% but you
think they are all going to get sick and die so it is a self limiting
problem.
OTOH we still do not have a clue how many people have acquired
immunity from a mild case that cured "spontaneously" as Fauci
describes it and he said that might be 80% of the people who got
infected.



Do you understand the meaning of 94% effective? How 94 differs from
100? What per CENT means?

I also know that is just a conservative guess and the real number is
now being hyped as higher (more effective). You folks really need to
make up your mind. Is the vaccine the silver bullet or is it just a
placebo?
You seem to change your opinion depending on the conversation.

On Sun, 09 May 2021 13:25:10 -0400, micky
wrote:

In alt.home.repair, on Sat, 08 May 2021 20:37:56 -0400,
wrote:


The reality is the hysteria is not reflected in the results. Florida
is wide open with a very old population and a very high amount of
interstate visitors. We are not doing any worse than the states that
are younger, less tourism and strict lockdown policies.

You sure are doing worse. Florida is the number 1 state in new cases,
3977. YOu'er number 1!! Whoopee.

You're 3rd of 50 in total number of cases. Yes, you're rate is 19th
highest, which is pretty good, but 5 of the other 18 states has ZERO nwe
cases in the most recent day. Two othes had under 100. The future looks
good for them but bad for you.

DeSantis is one of the reasons, and it looks like he learned happy-talk
from trump.

https://news.google.com/covid19/map?...S&ceid=US%3Aen
You can sort on the Statistics columns by clicking at the top.

OK so go sort that by cased per million. Get back to me.
When the snow melts and you northerners can go outside again, let's
see how you are doing.

On 5/9/2021 1:15 PM, rbowman wrote:
On 05/09/2021 09:54 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
I did not point you out as an anti-vaxxer so I guess reading
comprehension is not your long suit.Â* There are many people refusing the
vaccine, not just covid but all. The decrease in cases is showing it
works.


It's interesting how the phrasing has changed. I've never gotten a flu
shot but I don't recall that being described as 'refusing' the shot. Now
if you do not get an experimental vaccine you're branded a public enemy.


I think you nailed it!

On Sun, 9 May 2021 11:15:32 -0600, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:


I did not point you out as an anti-vaxxer so I guess reading
comprehension is not your long suit. There are many people refusing the
vaccine, not just covid but all. The decrease in cases is showing it works.


It's interesting how the phrasing has changed. I've never gotten a flu
shot but I don't recall that being described as 'refusing' the shot. Now
if you do not get an experimental vaccine you're branded a public enemy.

Perhaps because the flus weren't pandemic, babbling trumptard?

"Maskless Sociopath" wrote in message
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On 5/9/2021 7:40 AM, Bod wrote:
On 09/05/2021 11:46, Larry wrote:
On 5/8/21 2:22 PM, micky wrote:
If you're not vaccinated, you're in more trouble than ever.

And if you're only 94% safe from infection, you are too. 100-94% leaves
a 6% chance you can still get Corona**.


I'm trembling so much I can barely type.

Get checked out, you may have Parkinsons disease.


Doesn't matter. He'll be tagged a COVID death.

Not if it doesnt kill him.

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On Sat, 8 May 2021 23:16:32 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

On 5/8/2021 8:37 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 8 May 2021 18:50:21 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

On 5/8/2021 4:12 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 08 May 2021 14:22:58 -0400, micky
wrote:

**Apparently if vaccinated, there's almost no chance of dying even if
you're in the 6%, and on average you will get less sick, but I don't
know how much. I haven't seen details about that, except I just read
the
paragraph above.

When are you folks going to admit we have fallen for hysteria?

If you are just going to get a little cold that you get over why are
we still being silly about this? The vaccine is available for anyone
who wants it and if they are waiting for Jesus to tell them to get it
they will meet him soon enough .... or not. We still don't have any
good numbers about how many people have acquired immunity from having
a mild case and getting over it. It is very likely they never got
tested so they are not in the stats.
Fauci predicted that might be 80% of those infected.


So what is happening in India is just hysteria? Seems sensible to take
some precautions until we know what is happening. Seems to be on the
right path but could stall if people refuse vaccinations.

At a certain point we can let Darwin decide. The vaccine is out there,
they keep saying it works, at a certain point it is like wearing a
motorcycle helmet. If these people are willing to duck the protection
available, they deserve what they get.

The reality is the hysteria is not reflected in the results. Florida
is wide open with a very old population and a very high amount of
interstate visitors. We are not doing any worse than the states that
are younger, less tourism and strict lockdown policies.
It will be interesting to see what gets reported after all of this
shakes out and we can get an unbiased study about what worked and what
was just virtue signaling.
The only thing we know that worked was if you lived on an island with
a very compliant population and strict immigration policies you could
keep it out. This will be the real test of the vaccines since there
was virtually zero acquired immunity and the virus is still "novel" to
them.

India is FUD and has nothing to do with our situation.
What is the vaccination rate in India?
What are the living conditions?
Poverty rate?
Quality of medical care?


The situation in India show that what we did works. Florida has opened
up but they also took precautions and vaccinated a lot of people to get
a jump on it. As a country, we are far better off than India with
availability.

If you want Darin to take over why not stop all childhood vaccinations
and see of Polio, smallpox and the like comes back. Measles is
increasing now that there are a lot of anti-vaxxers.


How did you make the leap from me saying people who are not willing to
take the shot are on their own to making me an anti vaxxer?
It seems like reading is not your long suit.

Oh, you said it is a little cold. Shame about those 600,000 that did
not use tissues.

The world is a cold place and I am still not convinced
a lot of what we did had any major effect at all.

Yep, you actually are that stupid.

The places with the strongest mandates
seemed to have the worst results.

Because they have the worse results virus wise,
they choose to lockdown hardest, ****wit.

Rod and Trader jumping in with anecdotes about
islands and autocratic countries that were capable
of shutting down their borders and restrict in
country travel as an example is disingenuous too.

Shutting down state borders has nothing to
do with being and island and australia and
new zealand arent autocratic countrys, ****wit.

The US does not restrict movement between states

Yep, you lot actually are that stupid.

and we have never been able to.

That's a bare faced lie with the spanish flu.

Even when we tried last spring, people said "**** you, I'm going".

We had a few that stupid, they got arrested and charged.

There wasn't really anything the government could do about it.

More utterly mindless **** from you.

The government was also not able to affect any real quarantines,
not even in those socialist states with oppressive governments.

More utterly mindless **** from you.

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"micky" wrote in message
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In alt.home.repair, on Sat, 08 May 2021 20:37:56 -0400,
wrote:

On Sat, 8 May 2021 18:50:21 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

On 5/8/2021 4:12 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 08 May 2021 14:22:58 -0400, micky
wrote:

**Apparently if vaccinated, there's almost no chance of dying even if
you're in the 6%, and on average you will get less sick, but I don't
know how much. I haven't seen details about that, except I just read
the
paragraph above.

When are you folks going to admit we have fallen for hysteria?

If you are just going to get a little cold that you get over why are
we still being silly about this? The vaccine is available for anyone
who wants it and if they are waiting for Jesus to tell them to get it
they will meet him soon enough .... or not. We still don't have any
good numbers about how many people have acquired immunity from having
a mild case and getting over it. It is very likely they never got
tested so they are not in the stats.
Fauci predicted that might be 80% of those infected.


So what is happening in India is just hysteria? Seems sensible to take
some precautions until we know what is happening. Seems to be on the
right path but could stall if people refuse vaccinations.

At a certain point we can let Darwin decide. The vaccine is out there,
they keep saying it works, at a certain point it is like wearing a
motorcycle helmet. If these people are willing to duck the protection
available, they deserve what they get.

So everyone in your family has been fully vaccinated?

All your friends?

And if not, and someone dies it's his fault? That's how you regard your
family and friends?

And you missed the entire point of my OP.
Unvaccinated people endanger the rest of us.

Not really, they just delay the time when things will be back to normal.

The reality is the hysteria is not reflected in the results. Florida

Oh, yes, you scientific sage. There will be no more outbreaks because
50% of Florida is vaccinated!

Do you understand the meaning of 94% effective? How 94 differs from
100? What per CENT means?

DeSantis said some stupid stuff that made clear that he doesn't and I
think you don't either. You should retake 4th grade arithmetic.
(There may be some special program that will let you attend with 10-year
olds.)

I'm too disgusted to read the rest of your stuff.


is wide open with a very old population and a very high amount of
interstate visitors. We are not doing any worse than the states that
are younger, less tourism and strict lockdown policies.
It will be interesting to see what gets reported after all of this
shakes out and we can get an unbiased study about what worked and what
was just virtue signaling.
The only thing we know that worked was if you lived on an island with
a very compliant population and strict immigration policies you could
keep it out. This will be the real test of the vaccines since there
was virtually zero acquired immunity and the virus is still "novel" to
them.

India is FUD and has nothing to do with our situation.
What is the vaccination rate in India?
What are the living conditions?
Poverty rate?
Quality of medical care?

"micky" wrote in message
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In alt.home.repair, on Sun, 9 May 2021 09:42:43 -0700 (PDT), trader_4
wrote:



The only thing we know that worked was if you lived on an island with
a very compliant population and strict immigration policies you could
keep it out.

So you're going to ban tourism too. I don't think the money-grubbing
DeSantis will go along with that. Probably not you either.

The rate of Corona in the Seychelles, an island country
with the highest vaccination rate in the world

No it isnt. And they have used much worse vaccines
and have not vaccinated big swathes of their country.

is higher than India's.

Wrong. The bulk of corona in India isnt even recorded.

Put that in your pipe and smoke it.

Don't have pipe and don't smoke.

The lie still being repeated, despite it being pointed out to you how many
times that this is not 1850. The primary means of moving in and out of
countries, including islands, is the same and it doesn't involve ships.





This will be the real test of the vaccines since there
was virtually zero acquired immunity and the virus is still "novel" to
them.

More nonsense. We have excellent data that shows the vaccines are
highly effective.

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On Sun, 9 May 2021 09:26:16 -0700 (PDT), trader_4
wrote:

On Saturday, May 8, 2021 at 4:13:14 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Sat, 08 May 2021 14:22:58 -0400, micky
wrote:

**Apparently if vaccinated, there's almost no chance of dying even if
you're in the 6%, and on average you will get less sick, but I don't
know how much. I haven't seen details about that, except I just read
the
paragraph above.
When are you folks going to admit we have fallen for hysteria?

When are you going to admit that we have 600K dead Americans from Covid?
That we have many times that hospitalized, many for weeks, people with
long
Covid, people that are permanently damaged, people who needed lung
transplants?
That Covid is not just the flu. There is no hysteria, but there is a lot
of Covid
denial.

Covid was bad but our response may have been worse in the long run.
We are not even that sure most of the measures that crushed our
economy were even effective.

The economy hasn't been crushed.

After all 600,000 died anyway.

But you have no idea how many would have died if
the country had been stupid enough to do nothing.

The places with the tightest restrictions did as
poorly (or worse) than the ones that ran loose.

Another bare faced lie.

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On Sun, 9 May 2021 09:42:43 -0700 (PDT), trader_4
wrote:

On Saturday, May 8, 2021 at 8:38:33 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Sat, 8 May 2021 18:50:21 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

On 5/8/2021 4:12 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 08 May 2021 14:22:58 -0400, micky
wrote:

**Apparently if vaccinated, there's almost no chance of dying even
if
you're in the 6%, and on average you will get less sick, but I don't
know how much. I haven't seen details about that, except I just read
the
paragraph above.

When are you folks going to admit we have fallen for hysteria?

If you are just going to get a little cold that you get over why are
we still being silly about this? The vaccine is available for anyone
who wants it and if they are waiting for Jesus to tell them to get it
they will meet him soon enough .... or not. We still don't have any
good numbers about how many people have acquired immunity from having
a mild case and getting over it. It is very likely they never got
tested so they are not in the stats.
Fauci predicted that might be 80% of those infected.


So what is happening in India is just hysteria? Seems sensible to take
some precautions until we know what is happening. Seems to be on the
right path but could stall if people refuse vaccinations.
At a certain point we can let Darwin decide. The vaccine is out there,
they keep saying it works, at a certain point it is like wearing a
motorcycle helmet. If these people are willing to duck the protection
available, they deserve what they get.

But they also affect the rest of us who are vaccinated, by delaying how
long it takes to get back to normal, by continuing to provide hosts for
Covid to mutate, possibly into far worse variants.

Breakthrough infections in the vaccinated are far
more dangerous than the ones in the unvaccinated

Wrong, as always.

because they are cultivating a variant that is immune to the vaccine

Nope, because those didn't have an adequate immune response to the vaccine.

so you really don't want to go there.

Mindlessly pig ignorant, as always from you.

The reality is the hysteria is not reflected in the results. Florida
is wide open with a very old population and a very high amount of
interstate visitors. We are not doing any worse than the states that
are younger, less tourism and strict lockdown policies.
It will be interesting to see what gets reported after all of this
shakes out and we can get an unbiased study about what worked and what
was just virtue signaling.

Yeah, good luck with that. Right now the loons in AZ have hired some
unqualified
"experts" to look for election fraud. Among the things they are examining
is checking
the paper of the ballots for bamboo, to see if they came from China.
That's the
kind of thinking that's on the Republican side and that's where most of
the anti-vaxers are.

Squirrel! !

More TDS off topic bull**** having nothing to do with what we are
talking about but I guess you can't help yourself.



The only thing we know that worked was if you lived on an island with
a very compliant population and strict immigration policies you could
keep it out.

The lie still being repeated, despite it being pointed out to you how many
times that this is not 1850. The primary means of moving in and out of
countries, including islands, is the same and it doesn't involve ships.

They still only have a few ports of entry in those island nations

So does the USA, ****wit.

and they locked them down.

Yep, you lot were too stupid to do that.

Do you deny that?
I am not even going to talk about the communist dictatorships and
autocratic places like Korea, or Singapore.

This is the US. We have the right to free travel

So do we when it isnt a pandemic, but we arent actually
stupid enough to continue with that during a pandemic.

and very porous borders. We couldn't even lock down
returning passengers from infected cruise ships last spring

Corse you could have.

and your answer was "they just want to go home".

This will be the real test of the vaccines since there
was virtually zero acquired immunity and the virus is still "novel" to
them.

More nonsense. We have excellent data that shows the vaccines are
highly effective.

Then why do I still need a mask at Walmart? I have been vaccinated.

Because it isnt possible to check who has been vaccinated and who hasn't.

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On Sun, 9 May 2021 09:51:35 -0700 (PDT), trader_4
wrote:

On Sunday, May 9, 2021 at 10:41:03 AM UTC-4, wrote:
On Sat, 8 May 2021 23:16:32 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

On 5/8/2021 8:37 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 8 May 2021 18:50:21 -0400, Ed Pawlowski
wrote:

On 5/8/2021 4:12 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 08 May 2021 14:22:58 -0400, micky
wrote:

**Apparently if vaccinated, there's almost no chance of dying even
if
you're in the 6%, and on average you will get less sick, but I
don't
know how much. I haven't seen details about that, except I just
read the
paragraph above.

When are you folks going to admit we have fallen for hysteria?

If you are just going to get a little cold that you get over why
are
we still being silly about this? The vaccine is available for
anyone
who wants it and if they are waiting for Jesus to tell them to get
it
they will meet him soon enough .... or not. We still don't have any
good numbers about how many people have acquired immunity from
having
a mild case and getting over it. It is very likely they never got
tested so they are not in the stats.
Fauci predicted that might be 80% of those infected.


So what is happening in India is just hysteria? Seems sensible to
take
some precautions until we know what is happening. Seems to be on the
right path but could stall if people refuse vaccinations.

At a certain point we can let Darwin decide. The vaccine is out
there,
they keep saying it works, at a certain point it is like wearing a
motorcycle helmet. If these people are willing to duck the protection
available, they deserve what they get.

The reality is the hysteria is not reflected in the results. Florida
is wide open with a very old population and a very high amount of
interstate visitors. We are not doing any worse than the states that
are younger, less tourism and strict lockdown policies.
It will be interesting to see what gets reported after all of this
shakes out and we can get an unbiased study about what worked and
what
was just virtue signaling.
The only thing we know that worked was if you lived on an island with
a very compliant population and strict immigration policies you could
keep it out. This will be the real test of the vaccines since there
was virtually zero acquired immunity and the virus is still "novel"
to
them.

India is FUD and has nothing to do with our situation.
What is the vaccination rate in India?
What are the living conditions?
Poverty rate?
Quality of medical care?


The situation in India show that what we did works. Florida has opened
up but they also took precautions and vaccinated a lot of people to get
a jump on it. As a country, we are far better off than India with
availability.

If you want Darin to take over why not stop all childhood vaccinations
and see of Polio, smallpox and the like comes back. Measles is
increasing now that there are a lot of anti-vaxxers.

How did you make the leap from me saying people who are not willing to
take the shot are on their own to making me an anti vaxxer?
It seems like reading is not your long suit.
Oh, you said it is a little cold. Shame about those 600,000 that did
not use tissues.
The world is a cold place and I am still not convinced a lot of what
we did had any major effect at all. The places with the strongest
mandates seemed to have the worst results.
Rod and Trader jumping in with anecdotes about islands and autocratic
countries that were capable of shutting down their borders and
restrict in country travel as an example is disingenuous too.


You're the one with some peculiar fetish about "islands". The rest of us
know that it's not 1850 anymore, we're not relying on ships for travel and
islands like Taiwan and Australia are no more or less accessible to the
rest
of the world than the USA.

Airports are easier to lock down than ship docks
but we never had the ability to do either.

BULL****.

That pesky constitution

Says nothing like that.

and you even admitted we can't keep people from "going home".

Perfectly possible to quarantine until its clear they arent infected.

Home was New York, How did that work out?

****ed, because you lot are so ****ing hopeless.

The US does not restrict movement between states and we have never
been able to. Even when we tried last spring, people said "**** you,
I'm going". There wasn't really anything the government could do about
it. The government was also not able to affect any real quarantines,
not even in those socialist states with oppressive governments.


That's largely because we had a feckless president

The feckless president now or then?
Nothing of substance has changed except the vaccine
and that was well underway before Trump left ...

But the massive effort to vaccinate massive numbers wasn't.

or did you forget that.

Nothing to forget.

wrote in message
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On Sun, 9 May 2021 09:55:49 -0700 (PDT), trader_4
wrote:

On Sunday, May 9, 2021 at 12:04:00 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Sun, 9 May 2021 11:54:38 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

On 5/9/2021 10:40 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 8 May 2021 23:16:32 -0400, Ed Pawlowski
wrote:



India is FUD and has nothing to do with our situation.
What is the vaccination rate in India?
What are the living conditions?
Poverty rate?
Quality of medical care?


The situation in India show that what we did works. Florida has
opened
up but they also took precautions and vaccinated a lot of people to
get
a jump on it. As a country, we are far better off than India with
availability.

If you want Darin to take over why not stop all childhood
vaccinations
and see of Polio, smallpox and the like comes back. Measles is
increasing now that there are a lot of anti-vaxxers.


How did you make the leap from me saying people who are not willing
to
take the shot are on their own to making me an anti vaxxer?
It seems like reading is not your long suit.

I did not point you out as an anti-vaxxer so I guess reading
comprehension is not your long suit.
Then what the **** was this all about
"If you want Darin to take over why not stop all childhood
vaccinations and see of Polio, smallpox and the like comes back.
Measles is increasing now that there are a lot of anti-vaxxers".
There are many people refusing the
vaccine, not just covid but all. The decrease in cases is showing it
works.

The decrease may be due to the vaccine or it may just be due to more
people who have acquired immunity, we really don't know

Yes we do, it's both. And it's documented that far more people have
achieved
immunity in the past 4 months from the vaccines.


but it is
clear this runs in cycles. We have had spikes and lulls in the
infections since this started.
Nobody has even come close to associating that with masks and
lockdowns.

Actually there is a good association, for those willing to look.

Show me. Real data, not just opinions.

We have never seen any real data from you, just stupid denial.

The places with mandatory mask mandates and lockdowns
did as badly as those without and some were far worse..

Because they has far more virus, ****wit.

On 5/9/2021 7:59 AM, Hawk wrote:
On 5/8/2021 6:50 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 5/8/2021 4:12 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 08 May 2021 14:22:58 -0400, micky
wrote:

**Apparently if vaccinated, there's almost no chance of dying even if
you're in the 6%, and on average you will get less sick, but I don't
know how much. I haven't seen details about that, except I just read
the
paragraph above.

When are you folks going to admit we have fallen for hysteria?

If you are just going to get a little cold that you get over why are
we still being silly about this? The vaccine is available for anyone
who wants it and if they are waiting for Jesus to tell them to get it
they will meet him soon enough ....Â* or not. We still don't have any
good numbers about how many people have acquired immunity from having
a mild case and getting over it. It is very likely they never got
tested so they are not in the stats.
Fauci predicted that might be 80% of those infected.


So what is happening in India is just hysteria?Â* Seems sensible to
take some precautions until we know what is happening. Seems to be on
the right path but could stall if people refuse vaccinations.

A vaccination that's not even approved by the FDA. You can get it, the
smart ones won't be guinea pigs.

Comparing a 3rd world country to the rest? Get real. That place is a
cesspool of diseases and germs.

That 3rd world cesspool only has half the deaths that covid has caused
in the USA.

On 5/9/2021 11:23 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 5/9/2021 1:15 PM, rbowman wrote:
On 05/09/2021 09:54 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
I did not point you out as an anti-vaxxer so I guess reading
comprehension is not your long suit.Â* There are many people refusing the
vaccine, not just covid but all. The decrease in cases is showing it
works.


It's interesting how the phrasing has changed. I've never gotten a flu
shot but I don't recall that being described as 'refusing' the shot.
Now if you do not get an experimental vaccine you're branded a public
enemy.


I think you nailed it!

By ignoring how much more deadly covid is.

"Bob F" wrote in message
...
On 5/9/2021 7:59 AM, Hawk wrote:
On 5/8/2021 6:50 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 5/8/2021 4:12 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 08 May 2021 14:22:58 -0400, micky
wrote:

**Apparently if vaccinated, there's almost no chance of dying even if
you're in the 6%, and on average you will get less sick, but I don't
know how much. I haven't seen details about that, except I just read
the
paragraph above.

When are you folks going to admit we have fallen for hysteria?

If you are just going to get a little cold that you get over why are
we still being silly about this? The vaccine is available for anyone
who wants it and if they are waiting for Jesus to tell them to get it
they will meet him soon enough .... or not. We still don't have any
good numbers about how many people have acquired immunity from having
a mild case and getting over it. It is very likely they never got
tested so they are not in the stats.
Fauci predicted that might be 80% of those infected.


So what is happening in India is just hysteria? Seems sensible to take
some precautions until we know what is happening. Seems to be on the
right path but could stall if people refuse vaccinations.

A vaccination that's not even approved by the FDA. You can get it, the
smart ones won't be guinea pigs.

Comparing a 3rd world country to the rest? Get real. That place is a
cesspool of diseases and germs.

That 3rd world cesspool only has half the deaths that covid has caused in
the USA.

Only because they dont even bother with death certificates there.

On 5/9/2021 10:05 AM, micky wrote:
In alt.home.repair, on Sat, 08 May 2021 20:37:56 -0400,
wrote:

On Sat, 8 May 2021 18:50:21 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

On 5/8/2021 4:12 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 08 May 2021 14:22:58 -0400, micky
wrote:

**Apparently if vaccinated, there's almost no chance of dying even if
you're in the 6%, and on average you will get less sick, but I don't
know how much. I haven't seen details about that, except I just read the
paragraph above.

When are you folks going to admit we have fallen for hysteria?

If you are just going to get a little cold that you get over why are
we still being silly about this? The vaccine is available for anyone
who wants it and if they are waiting for Jesus to tell them to get it
they will meet him soon enough .... or not. We still don't have any
good numbers about how many people have acquired immunity from having
a mild case and getting over it. It is very likely they never got
tested so they are not in the stats.
Fauci predicted that might be 80% of those infected.


So what is happening in India is just hysteria? Seems sensible to take
some precautions until we know what is happening. Seems to be on the
right path but could stall if people refuse vaccinations.

At a certain point we can let Darwin decide. The vaccine is out there,
they keep saying it works, at a certain point it is like wearing a
motorcycle helmet. If these people are willing to duck the protection
available, they deserve what they get.

So everyone in your family has been fully vaccinated?

All your friends?

And if not, and someone dies it's his fault? That's how you regard your
family and friends?

And you missed the entire point of my OP. Unvaccinated people endanger
the rest of us.


The reality is the hysteria is not reflected in the results. Florida

Oh, yes, you scientific sage. There will be no more outbreaks because
50% of Florida is vaccinated!

Do you understand the meaning of 94% effective? How 94 differs from
100? What per CENT means?

DeSantis said some stupid stuff that made clear that he doesn't and I
think you don't either. You should retake 4th grade arithmetic.
(There may be some special program that will let you attend with 10-year
olds.)

I'm too disgusted to read the rest of your stuff.


is wide open with a very old population and a very high amount of
interstate visitors. We are not doing any worse than the states that
are younger, less tourism and strict lockdown policies.
It will be interesting to see what gets reported after all of this
shakes out and we can get an unbiased study about what worked and what
was just virtue signaling.
The only thing we know that worked was if you lived on an island with
a very compliant population and strict immigration policies you could
keep it out. This will be the real test of the vaccines since there
was virtually zero acquired immunity and the virus is still "novel" to
them.

India is FUD and has nothing to do with our situation.
What is the vaccination rate in India?
What are the living conditions?
Poverty rate?
Quality of medical care?


Is is all part of the Repub campaign to keep covid going in the USA so
the Democrats will not continue to thrash Repubs in coming elections.

The anti-vaxers will be the reason covid continues for years to come.

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On 2021-05-09, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
When you make stupid statements you lose. Taking precautions is not
medical advice it is common sense. Washing your hands is at the same
level as looking before crossing the street.

You did not answer the questions. Holding yourself out as a doctor and
recommending that I take specific medication or medications for which
the manufacturer has no financial liability is not the same thing
at all as advice to "wash your hands" or "look before crossing the
street" except perhaps to a closed-minded propagandist or the addled
mind of a blithering idiot.

So I repeat the questions. Please answer. Any more evasive bull****
marks you as an unthinking propagandist, to be kind.

Are you holding yourself out as a doctor and giving me medical advice
to take an experimental vaccine which does not have FDA approval, has
not had long-term testing, and for which the manufacturer cannot
be held liable if it damages me? Having given me this medical advice,
will YOU agree to be held financially liable if I do as you say and
it causes me harm?

Only simple "yes" or "no" answers are required.

(BTW, my own doctor, a licensed and experienced medical professional,
has advised me not to take any of the available vaccines at this time.
Do you believe your medical qualifications and experience should take
precedence over his? Once again, a simple "yes" or "no" answer is
all that is required.)

Of course these will probably turn out to be rhetorical questions as
it is quite obvious that you are incapable of honest answers, only
of knee-jerk duckspeak.

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On 2021-05-09, micky wrote:
When Roger was growing up, "Wash your hands" was the most medical advice
he got.

You apparently failed to grow up and develop the capacity for critical
thought. Tell us, what is it like approaching adult life while saddled with
the intellectual capacity of an 8-year-old?

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On 5/9/2021 4:11 PM, Roger Blake wrote:
On 2021-05-09, Ed Pawlowski wrote:


So I repeat the questions. Please answer.

Are you holding yourself out as a doctor

No, not rhetorical, just dumb. Never said I was a doctor, that is from
your mind. Hope my answer made you fell better.

"Bob F" wrote in message
...
On 5/9/2021 10:05 AM, micky wrote:
In alt.home.repair, on Sat, 08 May 2021 20:37:56 -0400,
wrote:

On Sat, 8 May 2021 18:50:21 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

On 5/8/2021 4:12 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 08 May 2021 14:22:58 -0400, micky
wrote:

**Apparently if vaccinated, there's almost no chance of dying even if
you're in the 6%, and on average you will get less sick, but I don't
know how much. I haven't seen details about that, except I just read
the
paragraph above.

When are you folks going to admit we have fallen for hysteria?

If you are just going to get a little cold that you get over why are
we still being silly about this? The vaccine is available for anyone
who wants it and if they are waiting for Jesus to tell them to get it
they will meet him soon enough .... or not. We still don't have any
good numbers about how many people have acquired immunity from having
a mild case and getting over it. It is very likely they never got
tested so they are not in the stats.
Fauci predicted that might be 80% of those infected.


So what is happening in India is just hysteria? Seems sensible to take
some precautions until we know what is happening. Seems to be on the
right path but could stall if people refuse vaccinations.

At a certain point we can let Darwin decide. The vaccine is out there,
they keep saying it works, at a certain point it is like wearing a
motorcycle helmet. If these people are willing to duck the protection
available, they deserve what they get.

So everyone in your family has been fully vaccinated?

All your friends?

And if not, and someone dies it's his fault? That's how you regard your
family and friends?

And you missed the entire point of my OP. Unvaccinated people endanger
the rest of us.


The reality is the hysteria is not reflected in the results. Florida

Oh, yes, you scientific sage. There will be no more outbreaks because
50% of Florida is vaccinated!

Do you understand the meaning of 94% effective? How 94 differs from
100? What per CENT means?

DeSantis said some stupid stuff that made clear that he doesn't and I
think you don't either. You should retake 4th grade arithmetic.
(There may be some special program that will let you attend with 10-year
olds.)

I'm too disgusted to read the rest of your stuff.


is wide open with a very old population and a very high amount of
interstate visitors. We are not doing any worse than the states that
are younger, less tourism and strict lockdown policies.
It will be interesting to see what gets reported after all of this
shakes out and we can get an unbiased study about what worked and what
was just virtue signaling.
The only thing we know that worked was if you lived on an island with
a very compliant population and strict immigration policies you could
keep it out. This will be the real test of the vaccines since there
was virtually zero acquired immunity and the virus is still "novel" to
them.

India is FUD and has nothing to do with our situation.
What is the vaccination rate in India?
What are the living conditions?
Poverty rate?
Quality of medical care?


Is is all part of the Repub campaign to keep covid going in the USA so the
Democrats will not continue to thrash Repubs in coming elections.

The anti-vaxers will be the reason covid continues for years to come.

Bet it doesnt.

On 5/9/2021 3:28 PM, Joey wrote:


"Bob F" wrote in message
...
On 5/9/2021 7:59 AM, Hawk wrote:
On 5/8/2021 6:50 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 5/8/2021 4:12 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 08 May 2021 14:22:58 -0400, micky
wrote:

**Apparently if vaccinated, there's almost no chance of dying even if
you're in the 6%, and on average you will get less sick, but I don't
know how much. I haven't seen details about that, except I just
read the
paragraph above.

When are you folks going to admit we have fallen for hysteria?

If you are just going to get a little cold that you get over why are
we still being silly about this? The vaccine is available for anyone
who wants it and if they are waiting for Jesus to tell them to get it
they will meet him soon enough ....Â* or not. We still don't have any
good numbers about how many people have acquired immunity from having
a mild case and getting over it. It is very likely they never got
tested so they are not in the stats.
Fauci predicted that might be 80% of those infected.


So what is happening in India is just hysteria?Â* Seems sensible to
take some precautions until we know what is happening. Seems to be
on the right path but could stall if people refuse vaccinations.

A vaccination that's not even approved by the FDA. You can get it,
the smart ones won't be guinea pigs.

Comparing a 3rd world country to the rest? Get real. That place is a
cesspool of diseases and germs.

That 3rd world cesspool only has half the deaths that covid has caused
in the USA.

Only because they dont even bother with death certificates there.



Precisely. They aren't concerned what causes deaths. They just throw
them in the yard and move on.

On 5/9/2021 3:26 PM, Bob F wrote:
On 5/9/2021 7:59 AM, Hawk wrote:
On 5/8/2021 6:50 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 5/8/2021 4:12 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 08 May 2021 14:22:58 -0400, micky
wrote:

**Apparently if vaccinated, there's almost no chance of dying even if
you're in the 6%, and on average you will get less sick, but I don't
know how much. I haven't seen details about that, except I just
read the
paragraph above.

When are you folks going to admit we have fallen for hysteria?

If you are just going to get a little cold that you get over why are
we still being silly about this? The vaccine is available for anyone
who wants it and if they are waiting for Jesus to tell them to get it
they will meet him soon enough ....Â* or not. We still don't have any
good numbers about how many people have acquired immunity from having
a mild case and getting over it. It is very likely they never got
tested so they are not in the stats.
Fauci predicted that might be 80% of those infected.


So what is happening in India is just hysteria?Â* Seems sensible to
take some precautions until we know what is happening. Seems to be on
the right path but could stall if people refuse vaccinations.

A vaccination that's not even approved by the FDA. You can get it, the
smart ones won't be guinea pigs.

Comparing a 3rd world country to the rest? Get real. That place is a
cesspool of diseases and germs.

That 3rd world cesspool only has half the deaths that covid has caused
in the USA.


That 3rd world country doesn't keep tabs on the covid deaths let alone
any deaths. It's 3rd world...that means they don't have a sophisticated
system to calculate nor do they even care.

On 5/9/2021 5:29 PM, Hawk wrote:


That 3rd world cesspool only has half the deaths that covid has caused
in the USA.


That 3rd world country doesn't keep tabs on the covid deaths let alone
any deaths. It's 3rd world...that means they don't have a sophisticated
system to calculate nor do they even care.

They do track but probably under count quite a bit

https://www.dw.com/en/india-coronavi...oll/a-57338733

"Ed Pawlowski" wrote in message
...
On 5/9/2021 5:29 PM, Hawk wrote:


That 3rd world cesspool only has half the deaths that covid has caused
in the USA.


That 3rd world country doesn't keep tabs on the covid deaths let alone
any deaths. It's 3rd world...that means they don't have a sophisticated
system to calculate nor do they even care.

They do track

Not with the bulk of the deaths with the system so grossly overwhelmed.

but probably under count quite a bit

They dont even bother to count most of them, let alone
even test the corpse to see if its infected with covid.

https://www.dw.com/en/india-coronavi...oll/a-57338733

On Sun, 9 May 2021 12:26:06 -0700, Bob F wrote:

On 5/9/2021 7:59 AM, Hawk wrote:
On 5/8/2021 6:50 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 5/8/2021 4:12 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 08 May 2021 14:22:58 -0400, micky
wrote:

**Apparently if vaccinated, there's almost no chance of dying even if
you're in the 6%, and on average you will get less sick, but I don't
know how much. I haven't seen details about that, except I just read
the
paragraph above.

When are you folks going to admit we have fallen for hysteria?

If you are just going to get a little cold that you get over why are
we still being silly about this? The vaccine is available for anyone
who wants it and if they are waiting for Jesus to tell them to get it
they will meet him soon enough ....Â* or not. We still don't have any
good numbers about how many people have acquired immunity from having
a mild case and getting over it. It is very likely they never got
tested so they are not in the stats.
Fauci predicted that might be 80% of those infected.


So what is happening in India is just hysteria?Â* Seems sensible to
take some precautions until we know what is happening. Seems to be on
the right path but could stall if people refuse vaccinations.

A vaccination that's not even approved by the FDA. You can get it, the
smart ones won't be guinea pigs.

Comparing a 3rd world country to the rest? Get real. That place is a
cesspool of diseases and germs.

That 3rd world cesspool only has half the deaths that covid has caused
in the USA.

That surprised me when I looked. Tell me again why we care about a
country with 10 million fewer cases and a quarter million fewer deaths
with a billion more people than us?
The way the news hyped this it sounded like the whole country was sick
and dying. Their death rate is 0.015% or so. How would they even
notice?

On Sun, 9 May 2021 17:46:55 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

On 5/9/2021 5:29 PM, Hawk wrote:


That 3rd world cesspool only has half the deaths that covid has caused
in the USA.


That 3rd world country doesn't keep tabs on the covid deaths let alone
any deaths. It's 3rd world...that means they don't have a sophisticated
system to calculate nor do they even care.

They do track but probably under count quite a bit

https://www.dw.com/en/india-coronavi...oll/a-57338733

Don't tell Bob. He is staking his reputation on the 230k number.

wrote in message
...
On Sun, 9 May 2021 12:26:06 -0700, Bob F wrote:

On 5/9/2021 7:59 AM, Hawk wrote:
On 5/8/2021 6:50 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 5/8/2021 4:12 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 08 May 2021 14:22:58 -0400, micky
wrote:

**Apparently if vaccinated, there's almost no chance of dying even if
you're in the 6%, and on average you will get less sick, but I don't
know how much. I haven't seen details about that, except I just read
the
paragraph above.

When are you folks going to admit we have fallen for hysteria?

If you are just going to get a little cold that you get over why are
we still being silly about this? The vaccine is available for anyone
who wants it and if they are waiting for Jesus to tell them to get it
they will meet him soon enough .... or not. We still don't have any
good numbers about how many people have acquired immunity from having
a mild case and getting over it. It is very likely they never got
tested so they are not in the stats.
Fauci predicted that might be 80% of those infected.


So what is happening in India is just hysteria? Seems sensible to
take some precautions until we know what is happening. Seems to be on
the right path but could stall if people refuse vaccinations.

A vaccination that's not even approved by the FDA. You can get it, the
smart ones won't be guinea pigs.

Comparing a 3rd world country to the rest? Get real. That place is a
cesspool of diseases and germs.

That 3rd world cesspool only has half the deaths that covid has caused
in the USA.

That surprised me when I looked. Tell me again why we care
about a country with 10 million fewer cases and a quarter
million fewer deaths with a billion more people than us?

Because its very unlikely that those numbers are anything like correct,
stupid.

The way the news hyped this it sounded
like the whole country was sick and dying.

Only to fools like you.

Their death rate is 0.015% or so.

More mindless bull****.

How would they even notice?

They might notice all the funeral pyres, stupid.

On 05/09/2021 03:46 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 5/9/2021 5:29 PM, Hawk wrote:


That 3rd world cesspool only has half the deaths that covid has
caused in the USA.


That 3rd world country doesn't keep tabs on the covid deaths let alone
any deaths. It's 3rd world...that means they don't have a
sophisticated system to calculate nor do they even care.

They do track but probably under count quite a bit

https://www.dw.com/en/india-coronavi...oll/a-57338733


https://www.worldometers.info/corona...country/china/

Speaking of under counting... There are two ways of looking at that. The
CCP is lying or Han Chinese are less susceptible to a virus originating
in China.

"rbowman" wrote in message
...
On 05/09/2021 03:46 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 5/9/2021 5:29 PM, Hawk wrote:


That 3rd world cesspool only has half the deaths that covid has
caused in the USA.


That 3rd world country doesn't keep tabs on the covid deaths let alone
any deaths. It's 3rd world...that means they don't have a
sophisticated system to calculate nor do they even care.

They do track but probably under count quite a bit

https://www.dw.com/en/india-coronavi...oll/a-57338733


https://www.worldometers.info/corona...country/china/

Speaking of under counting... There are two ways of looking at that. The
CCP is lying or Han Chinese are less susceptible to a virus originating in
China.

Or they got very gung ho about their lockdowns.
During the worst of it, they quite literally welded
up the doors of the flats and let the infected die.

On Sun, 09 May 2021 13:52:46 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 9 May 2021 09:51:35 -0700 (PDT), trader_4
wrote:

On Sunday, May 9, 2021 at 10:41:03 AM UTC-4, wrote:

The US does not restrict movement between states and we have never
been able to. Even when we tried last spring, people said "**** you,
I'm going". There wasn't really anything the government could do about
it. The government was also not able to affect any real quarantines,
not even in those socialist states with oppressive governments.


That's largely because we had a feckless president

The feckless president now or then?

The clue is contained within the meaning of the word "had". With that in
mind, why don't you take another run at it?

Nothing of substance has changed except the vaccine and that was well
underway before Trump left ... or did you forget that.

Did you forget that when the Biden administration took office in January
they inherited no national vaccine program, no plan, not even an outline
for a plan. Zero, nada, zilch. Did you forget that?

On Sun, 09 May 2021 12:03:20 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 9 May 2021 11:54:38 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

On 5/9/2021 10:40 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 8 May 2021 23:16:32 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:



India is FUD and has nothing to do with our situation.
What is the vaccination rate in India?
What are the living conditions?
Poverty rate?
Quality of medical care?


The situation in India show that what we did works. Florida has opened
up but they also took precautions and vaccinated a lot of people to get
a jump on it. As a country, we are far better off than India with
availability.

If you want Darin to take over why not stop all childhood vaccinations
and see of Polio, smallpox and the like comes back. Measles is
increasing now that there are a lot of anti-vaxxers.


How did you make the leap from me saying people who are not willing to
take the shot are on their own to making me an anti vaxxer?
It seems like reading is not your long suit.

I did not point you out as an anti-vaxxer so I guess reading
comprehension is not your long suit.

Then what the **** was this all about

"If you want Darin to take over why not stop all childhood
vaccinations and see of Polio, smallpox and the like comes back.
Measles is increasing now that there are a lot of anti-vaxxers".

Misunderstanding it the first time was no big deal, but misunderstanding it
the second time was quite humorous. Thanks for that. :-)