On 5/11/2021 10:14 AM, Scott Lurndal wrote:
Frank "frank writes:


People think you are stupid and you open your mouth and prove them correct.

P. K. B. In spades.


Indeed!

On 5/11/2021 10:31 AM, Frank wrote:
On 5/11/2021 1:14 PM, Scott Lurndal wrote:
Â* P. K. B.

Gibberish.

Clear as it can be, to anyone that can actually think.

On 5/11/2021 1:41 PM, Bob F wrote:
On 5/11/2021 10:31 AM, Frank wrote:
On 5/11/2021 1:14 PM, Scott Lurndal wrote:
Â* P. K. B.

Gibberish.

Clear as it can be, to anyone that can actually think.


Państwowy Korpus Bezpieczeństwa

On Tue, 11 May 2021 08:24:00 -0700 (PDT), trader_4
wrote:

On Monday, May 10, 2021 at 12:31:24 PM UTC-4, Jim Joyce wrote:
On Mon, 10 May 2021 08:45:19 -0700 (PDT), trader_4
wrote:
On Monday, May 10, 2021 at 10:08:15 AM UTC-4, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 5/10/2021 6:36 AM, Larry wrote:
On 5/10/21 2:03 AM, Jim Joyce wrote:
Did you forget that when the Biden administration took office in January
they inherited no national vaccine program, no plan, not even an outline
for a plan. Zero, nada, zilch. Did you forget that?


President Trump's team did all the heavy lifting before Bribem's thugs
stole the election.
Obviously you get your newsaganda from CNN/ABC/CBS/NBC and the
once-great Google.
Still waiting for Rudy to bring the evidence to court for that election
thing. Should be soon huh? Think it will be this week?

I saw a story recently that Rudy has cut back on his staff. It said that while
up until recently Rudy traveled with a staff of five or so, now it's like one
driver. Other stories say that while Trump has raised hundreds of millions
to pay for he stolen election BS or to be used by Trump's PAC, he has told
his minions not to give any to Rudy. I think Rudy, Powell and Mr. Pillowhead
are in deep doo doo.
Of the three, it seems like Rudy might be in worse shape than the others.
He has the Big Lie in common with the others, but he also seems to have
some shady things that apparently involved Ukraine.

Powell's "you're stupid if you believed me" defense might not work for
Rudy.

As for the Pillow guy, he's all in. He even countersued for $1.6B so we'll
see how that goes. I expect everyone to eventually settle for undisclosed
sums, but they'll have to publicly admit they were lying to support Trump.

I doubt that's going to happen. Would you settle if you're Dominion? I would
push for it to all be heard in court, for all to see what a sad sack of liars these
shysters are. The one case settled so far is by the Dominion exec, who sued
them personally. IDK why he settled, but his situation, his resources are likely
different than that of Dominion. The only way for the American people to see
that it was all lies is for it to go to trial and I hope it does.

I hope the rest of the cases go to trial but it's going to be anticlimactic
when we get there. I expect each of the defense cases to fall apart very
quickly.


I also disagree that Rudy is in the most peril. I would say Lindell is. Rudy has
probably squirreled away a lot of whatever money he has where it will be hard
to get to pay a judgment. Lindell has his pillow company that can't be
squirreled away somewhere. Even if it's possible to do through a trust or
similar, he's likely too stupid to do it, he believes he's going to win.

I vote Lindell for most likely to have multiple courtroom outbursts. If we
get to see the inside of the courtroom, it'll be must see TV.


Remember when Fretwell claimed that 'Trump is gone, let's move on'? That
still cracks me up. Trump is the opposite of gone.

+1

Yes, we were correct, that Trump isn't going to sit by quietly like all the other former
presidents in our lifetimes and beyond. He's still leading the party that he lead
to destruction and Republicans are very eager for more. There are less of them
though. I just heard registered Republicans are down to 25%. I'm one that left.
I've said here before having been a registered Republican for decades, I was curious
to see if the RNC contacted me, asking why I withdrew my registration. If I was
running it, I would be monitoring who's leaving, how many and why. I haven't
heard a peep.

It's pretty amazing to see what's happening with the GOP. This whole period
will become multiple case studies for future historians and college
lectures. The once mighty GOP didn't get destroyed by outside forces, they
voluntarily destroyed themselves.

Once again, for the record, I was wrong and you were right. I predicted
that the Republican party would rid itself of anything related to Trump,
after suffering one of the worst defeats in history. But no, not content
with losing the WH, both houses of Congress, and both Senators from
Georgia, they want to double down and take another dose of what didn't work
before. It's mental illness on a grand scale.


I just sent an email to my congressman, telling him that he should vote to support
Liz Cheney. He likely won't. He voted against impeaching Trump, twice and has
been totally MIA through all of Trump's lies and misdeeds. He;s still acceptable to
the Republicans, he's one of the silent ones. I wonder when they will start to purge
Republicans like him too, when being silent isn't enough, where you have to actively
show your obedience to Trump and lie for him.

Did you see the letter that GOP House leader McCarthy wrote, saying how the
GOP is the party of the big tent, where all ideas and points of view are
welcome? In the next paragraph he says that Cheney has to go because her
views don't align with the party.

trader_4 wrote:

On Monday, May 10, 2021 at 7:02:30 PM UTC-4, cshenk wrote:
trader_4 wrote:

.

600K dead here, get real. So sad that crazy Republicans have
chosen to make masks and vaccines another nasty, divisive ****
show. Apparently they want to lose even more. It's like watching
a house burn down, with the people inside denying it's on fire,
refusing to put the fire out or leave the house, instead
believing crazy conspiracy theories.

Cut with the divisive talk. Thats part of the problem. Stop blaming
it on a party affilication as if that were the only factor and all
people of a group you don't affiliate with are stupid. It's the
sort of thing that has to be affected by individual people.

I don't call either party stupid and as far as divisive, they are
equally to blame.

I attribute the positions and the problems where they reside. Poll
after poll shows that Republicans are the ones that won't wear masks,
that won't get vaccinated. I didn't politicize masks and vaccines,
the Republicans did. I wasn't the party holding Trump death rallies,
no masks, no social distancing. Just look at all the Covid denial
right here, the opposition to masks, to vaccines. If there are any
Democrats, it's very few. It's overwhelmingly the bunch that believe
the election was stolen and all the other modern GOP BS, now that
it's become the cult of the lying orange buffoon.

In other words, you are divisive and believe the democrat (nominally)
stuff about what the other party and all it's people are like.

You are a big part of the divisive problem in the USA. If you can not
regognize it, it's even more sad. Then again, I'm newly re-entered
here and you may be a well known political troll that I m just catching
on to.

On 5/11/2021 6:52 PM, cshenk wrote:
trader_4 wrote:

On Monday, May 10, 2021 at 7:02:30 PM UTC-4, cshenk wrote:
trader_4 wrote:

.

600K dead here, get real. So sad that crazy Republicans have
chosen to make masks and vaccines another nasty, divisive ****
show. Apparently they want to lose even more. It's like watching
a house burn down, with the people inside denying it's on fire,
refusing to put the fire out or leave the house, instead
believing crazy conspiracy theories.

Cut with the divisive talk. Thats part of the problem. Stop blaming
it on a party affilication as if that were the only factor and all
people of a group you don't affiliate with are stupid. It's the
sort of thing that has to be affected by individual people.

I don't call either party stupid and as far as divisive, they are
equally to blame.

I attribute the positions and the problems where they reside. Poll
after poll shows that Republicans are the ones that won't wear masks,
that won't get vaccinated. I didn't politicize masks and vaccines,
the Republicans did. I wasn't the party holding Trump death rallies,
no masks, no social distancing. Just look at all the Covid denial
right here, the opposition to masks, to vaccines. If there are any
Democrats, it's very few. It's overwhelmingly the bunch that believe
the election was stolen and all the other modern GOP BS, now that
it's become the cult of the lying orange buffoon.

In other words, you are divisive and believe the democrat (nominally)
stuff about what the other party and all it's people are like.

You are a big part of the divisive problem in the USA. If you can not
regognize it, it's even more sad. Then again, I'm newly re-entered
here and you may be a well known political troll that I m just catching
on to.


Trader is an ex-Republican but usually a pretty straight shooter on his
thoughts. Yes, there is more divisiveness in this country than ever
before and along party lines.

I've always been registered Independent but tend to be conservative.
Sadly, the present Republican party is a group now that I'd never be
associated with. There is no party in this country that I'd want to be
associated with.

Ed Pawlowski wrote:

On 5/11/2021 6:52 PM, cshenk wrote:
trader_4 wrote:

On Monday, May 10, 2021 at 7:02:30 PM UTC-4, cshenk wrote:
trader_4 wrote:

.

600K dead here, get real. So sad that crazy Republicans have
chosen to make masks and vaccines another nasty, divisive ****
show. Apparently they want to lose even more. It's like
watching a house burn down, with the people inside denying
it's on fire, refusing to put the fire out or leave the
house, instead believing crazy conspiracy theories.

Cut with the divisive talk. Thats part of the problem. Stop
blaming it on a party affilication as if that were the only
factor and all people of a group you don't affiliate with are
stupid. It's the sort of thing that has to be affected by
individual people.

I don't call either party stupid and as far as divisive, they
are equally to blame.

I attribute the positions and the problems where they reside.
Poll after poll shows that Republicans are the ones that won't
wear masks, that won't get vaccinated. I didn't politicize masks
and vaccines, the Republicans did. I wasn't the party holding
Trump death rallies, no masks, no social distancing. Just look
at all the Covid denial right here, the opposition to masks, to
vaccines. If there are any Democrats, it's very few. It's
overwhelmingly the bunch that believe the election was stolen and
all the other modern GOP BS, now that it's become the cult of
the lying orange buffoon.

In other words, you are divisive and believe the democrat
(nominally) stuff about what the other party and all it's people
are like.

You are a big part of the divisive problem in the USA. If you can
not regognize it, it's even more sad. Then again, I'm newly
re-entered here and you may be a well known political troll that I
m just catching on to.


Trader is an ex-Republican but usually a pretty straight shooter on
his thoughts. Yes, there is more divisiveness in this country than
ever before and along party lines.

I've always been registered Independent but tend to be conservative.
Sadly, the present Republican party is a group now that I'd never be
associated with. There is no party in this country that I'd want to
be associated with.

I'm not really party affiliated at all. Voted democrat and republican
depending on the person and their stances on things. Sometimes, voted
independent. Divisive comments like his, we do not need at this time in
the USA. If you disagree with a specific action, say so but stop
affiliating it to a specific party.

There may be some party 'leaders' that need to go as the root of the
block voting, but it's generally not the leaders of the country. On the
leaders of the country, you get some good ones and some bad ones. It's
that simple. Party doesn't matter.

"cshenk" wrote in message
...
Ed Pawlowski wrote:

On 5/11/2021 6:52 PM, cshenk wrote:
trader_4 wrote:

On Monday, May 10, 2021 at 7:02:30 PM UTC-4, cshenk wrote:
trader_4 wrote:

.

600K dead here, get real. So sad that crazy Republicans have
chosen to make masks and vaccines another nasty, divisive ****
show. Apparently they want to lose even more. It's like
watching a house burn down, with the people inside denying
it's on fire, refusing to put the fire out or leave the
house, instead believing crazy conspiracy theories.

Cut with the divisive talk. Thats part of the problem. Stop
blaming it on a party affilication as if that were the only
factor and all people of a group you don't affiliate with are
stupid. It's the sort of thing that has to be affected by
individual people.

I don't call either party stupid and as far as divisive, they
are equally to blame.

I attribute the positions and the problems where they reside.
Poll after poll shows that Republicans are the ones that won't
wear masks, that won't get vaccinated. I didn't politicize masks
and vaccines, the Republicans did. I wasn't the party holding
Trump death rallies, no masks, no social distancing. Just look
at all the Covid denial right here, the opposition to masks, to
vaccines. If there are any Democrats, it's very few. It's
overwhelmingly the bunch that believe the election was stolen and
all the other modern GOP BS, now that it's become the cult of
the lying orange buffoon.

In other words, you are divisive and believe the democrat
(nominally) stuff about what the other party and all it's people
are like.

You are a big part of the divisive problem in the USA. If you can
not regognize it, it's even more sad. Then again, I'm newly
re-entered here and you may be a well known political troll that I
m just catching on to.


Trader is an ex-Republican but usually a pretty straight shooter on
his thoughts. Yes, there is more divisiveness in this country than
ever before and along party lines.

I've always been registered Independent but tend to be conservative.
Sadly, the present Republican party is a group now that I'd never be
associated with. There is no party in this country that I'd want to
be associated with.

I'm not really party affiliated at all. Voted democrat and republican
depending on the person and their stances on things. Sometimes, voted
independent. Divisive comments like his, we do not need at this time in
the USA. If you disagree with a specific action, say so but stop
affiliating it to a specific party.

There may be some party 'leaders' that need to go as the root of the
block voting, but it's generally not the leaders of the country. On the
leaders of the country, you get some good ones and some bad ones.
It's that simple. Party doesn't matter.

It does when they refuse to get rid of someone as bad as Trump.

Tho I can see why they dont given that he did get about half who bother to
vote.

On Tue, 11 May 2021 00:13:53 -0500, Jim Joyce
wrote:

On Tue, 11 May 2021 00:22:43 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 10 May 2021 01:03:26 -0500, Jim Joyce
wrote:

On Sun, 09 May 2021 13:52:46 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 9 May 2021 09:51:35 -0700 (PDT), trader_4
wrote:

On Sunday, May 9, 2021 at 10:41:03 AM UTC-4, wrote:

The US does not restrict movement between states and we have never
been able to. Even when we tried last spring, people said "**** you,
I'm going". There wasn't really anything the government could do about
it. The government was also not able to affect any real quarantines,
not even in those socialist states with oppressive governments.


That's largely because we had a feckless president

The feckless president now or then?

The clue is contained within the meaning of the word "had". With that in
mind, why don't you take another run at it?

Nothing of substance has changed except the vaccine and that was well
underway before Trump left ... or did you forget that.

Did you forget that when the Biden administration took office in January
they inherited no national vaccine program, no plan, not even an outline
for a plan. Zero, nada, zilch. Did you forget that?

I remember my governor snip

Yet another unannounced move of the goalposts. We weren't talking about
your idiot Governor. You're obviously unable to back up your assertion
above. Thanks for playing.

The point is the feds are not doing ****. It is all up to the
governors but maybe that did not trickle down to Mississippi.
Maybe that is why your state is still last in vaccination rate.

On Tue, 11 May 2021 00:31:05 -0500, Jim Joyce
wrote:

On Tue, 11 May 2021 00:31:44 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 10 May 2021 01:10:36 -0500, Jim Joyce
wrote:

On Sat, 08 May 2021 20:37:56 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 8 May 2021 18:50:21 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

On 5/8/2021 4:12 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 08 May 2021 14:22:58 -0400, micky
wrote:

**Apparently if vaccinated, there's almost no chance of dying even if
you're in the 6%, and on average you will get less sick, but I don't
know how much. I haven't seen details about that, except I just read the
paragraph above.

When are you folks going to admit we have fallen for hysteria?

If you are just going to get a little cold that you get over why are
we still being silly about this? The vaccine is available for anyone
who wants it and if they are waiting for Jesus to tell them to get it
they will meet him soon enough .... or not. We still don't have any
good numbers about how many people have acquired immunity from having
a mild case and getting over it. It is very likely they never got
tested so they are not in the stats.
Fauci predicted that might be 80% of those infected.


So what is happening in India is just hysteria? Seems sensible to take
some precautions until we know what is happening. Seems to be on the
right path but could stall if people refuse vaccinations.

At a certain point we can let Darwin decide.

There it is, the "Fretwell Let'r Rip Doctrine" that you've been pushing
since the beginning of this pandemic, over a year ago now. Have you really
learned nothing over the past year? Nothing at all?

How long do you think we should be under someone's thumb about this?

That's a stupid question. Are you now, or have you been, under someone's
thumb? If so, in what way?

The feds have been trying to impose lots of restrictions with no real
end in sight. Fortunately my governor said **** that.
We are not dropping like flies as Trader and the Branch Covidian cult
were hoping for.



What is the end game?

I was talking to a couple of neighbor kids the other day. They're home
schooled and they know much more about the pandemic, including the
so-called end game, than you do. Good for them, I guess, but they sure make
you look bad in comparison.


So you don't have an answer and you just wandered off into the weeds.
Now we are taking advice from home schooled kids who are probably
learning Jesus had a pet dinosaur.

On Tue, 11 May 2021 20:29:15 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 11 May 2021 00:13:53 -0500, Jim Joyce
wrote:

On Tue, 11 May 2021 00:22:43 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 10 May 2021 01:03:26 -0500, Jim Joyce
wrote:

On Sun, 09 May 2021 13:52:46 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 9 May 2021 09:51:35 -0700 (PDT), trader_4
wrote:

On Sunday, May 9, 2021 at 10:41:03 AM UTC-4, wrote:

The US does not restrict movement between states and we have never
been able to. Even when we tried last spring, people said "**** you,
I'm going". There wasn't really anything the government could do about
it. The government was also not able to affect any real quarantines,
not even in those socialist states with oppressive governments.


That's largely because we had a feckless president

The feckless president now or then?

The clue is contained within the meaning of the word "had". With that in
mind, why don't you take another run at it?

Nothing of substance has changed except the vaccine and that was well
underway before Trump left ... or did you forget that.

Did you forget that when the Biden administration took office in January
they inherited no national vaccine program, no plan, not even an outline
for a plan. Zero, nada, zilch. Did you forget that?

I remember my governor snip

Yet another unannounced move of the goalposts. We weren't talking about
your idiot Governor. You're obviously unable to back up your assertion
above. Thanks for playing.

The point is the feds are not doing ****.

Demonstrably false when it comes to the pandemic response, but please
continue.

It is all up to the
governors but maybe that did not trickle down to Mississippi.

You used to be right about that, but news flash, we held a Presidential
election last November and the orange idiot was replaced by a competent,
fit, President who took things seriously. Things couldn't possibly be more
different between the two administrations.

Maybe that is why your state is still last in vaccination rate.

No, that's primarily because this is a red state, with all that that
entails. You live in Florida, so I know you know what I mean.

You announced, awhile back, that you had cut the cord. Every time I see you
display utter ignorance when it comes to national events such as the
pandemic response or national politics, I always wonder if the cord cutting
is related in any way or were you equally in the dark before you decided to
cut the cord. Do you have any thoughts on that? You still have Internet
access so I don't think cord cutting is a valid excuse, but I'm curious as
to what you think the reason might be.

On Tue, 11 May 2021 20:40:58 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 11 May 2021 00:31:05 -0500, Jim Joyce
wrote:

On Tue, 11 May 2021 00:31:44 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 10 May 2021 01:10:36 -0500, Jim Joyce
wrote:

On Sat, 08 May 2021 20:37:56 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 8 May 2021 18:50:21 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

On 5/8/2021 4:12 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 08 May 2021 14:22:58 -0400, micky
wrote:

**Apparently if vaccinated, there's almost no chance of dying even if
you're in the 6%, and on average you will get less sick, but I don't
know how much. I haven't seen details about that, except I just read the
paragraph above.

When are you folks going to admit we have fallen for hysteria?

If you are just going to get a little cold that you get over why are
we still being silly about this? The vaccine is available for anyone
who wants it and if they are waiting for Jesus to tell them to get it
they will meet him soon enough .... or not. We still don't have any
good numbers about how many people have acquired immunity from having
a mild case and getting over it. It is very likely they never got
tested so they are not in the stats.
Fauci predicted that might be 80% of those infected.


So what is happening in India is just hysteria? Seems sensible to take
some precautions until we know what is happening. Seems to be on the
right path but could stall if people refuse vaccinations.

At a certain point we can let Darwin decide.

There it is, the "Fretwell Let'r Rip Doctrine" that you've been pushing
since the beginning of this pandemic, over a year ago now. Have you really
learned nothing over the past year? Nothing at all?

How long do you think we should be under someone's thumb about this?

That's a stupid question. Are you now, or have you been, under someone's
thumb? If so, in what way?

The feds have been trying to impose lots of restrictions with no real
end in sight. Fortunately my governor said **** that.
We are not dropping like flies as Trader and the Branch Covidian cult
were hoping for.

Should I ignore the stupid comment? If yes, where does it end? Most of what
you say is equally stupid.

For example, it was and still is you who is hoping for maximum death from
the virus. You didn't earn the "let'r rip" moniker for nothing. Ring any
bells? How about Darwin? Trying to pretend that it wasn't you who advocated
for max death just isn't going to work. You know, they write this ****
down.

What is the end game?

I was talking to a couple of neighbor kids the other day. They're home
schooled and they know much more about the pandemic, including the
so-called end game, than you do. Good for them, I guess, but they sure make
you look bad in comparison.


So you don't have an answer and you just wandered off into the weeds.
Now we are taking advice from home schooled kids who are probably
learning Jesus had a pet dinosaur.

Sorry, I do sometimes wander a bit. I apologize for sort of comparing you
to my neighbor's kids. That put you in a very bad light and was unfair.

I'm just amazed at how stubbornly ignorant you are. Ignorance is one thing,
but the resistance you show to learning anything, even the basics, is
simply amazing. More than a year into the pandemic, you're still asking why
masks are important. Stunning.

On Wed, 12 May 2021 10:28:57 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:

FLUSH the trolling senile asshole's latest troll**** unread

--
"Who or What is Rod Speed?

Rod Speed is an entirely modern phenomenon. Essentially, Rod Speed
is an insecure and worthless individual who has discovered he can
enhance his own self-esteem in his own eyes by playing "the big, hard
man" on the InterNet."
https://www.pcreview.co.uk/threads/r...d-faq.2973853/

On Sunday, May 9, 2021 at 2:17:38 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Sun, 09 May 2021 13:25:10 -0400, micky
wrote:
In alt.home.repair, on Sat, 08 May 2021 20:37:56 -0400,
wrote:


The reality is the hysteria is not reflected in the results. Florida
is wide open with a very old population and a very high amount of
interstate visitors. We are not doing any worse than the states that
are younger, less tourism and strict lockdown policies.

You sure are doing worse. Florida is the number 1 state in new cases,
3977. YOu'er number 1!! Whoopee.

You're 3rd of 50 in total number of cases. Yes, you're rate is 19th
highest, which is pretty good, but 5 of the other 18 states has ZERO nwe
cases in the most recent day. Two othes had under 100. The future looks
good for them but bad for you.

DeSantis is one of the reasons, and it looks like he learned happy-talk
from trump.

https://news.google.com/covid19/map?...S&ceid=US%3Aen
You can sort on the Statistics columns by clicking at the top.
OK so go sort that by cased per million. Get back to me.
When the snow melts and you northerners can go outside again, let's
see how you are doing.

I guess you haven't looked at any of the graphs. NJ, NY, etc new infections are dropping
rapidly.

On Sunday, May 9, 2021 at 2:21:29 PM UTC-4, Hawk wrote:
On 5/8/2021 4:25 PM, Rod Speed wrote:
wrote
micky wrote

**Apparently if vaccinated, there's almost no chance of dying even if
you're in the 6%, and on average you will get less sick, but I don't
know how much. I haven't seen details about that, except I just read
the paragraph above.

When are you folks going to admit we have fallen for hysteria?

Never, because there is no hysteria, just a recognition that its a very
serious and very infectious disease and that its very undesirable that
it killed 600K in your country alone before you lot had enough of a clue
to do what is necessary to bring it under control
instead of mindlessly rabbiting on about habeas
corpus and the constitution.
If you are just going to get a little cold that you get over

Try telling that to the 600K its killed in your country alone,
let alone those whose quality of life has been ****ed over by long
covid. You are as stupid as that ****wit orange clown.
why are we still being silly about this?

Fools like Muggles and jimmy always will be.
The vaccine is available for anyone who wants it and if they are
waiting for Jesus to tell them to get it they will meet him soon
enough .... or not.

We still don't have any good numbers about how many people have
acquired immunity from having a mild case and getting over it.

Because its too hard to measure and is a useless number as far as what
we should be doing about the virus anyway. And its much too early to
tell yet how long that immunity will last.
It is very likely they never got
tested so they are not in the stats.

Yes.
Fauci predicted that might be 80% of those infected.

Irrelevant to what it makes sense to do now.

And yet, there's still a 94.6 to 99.997 survival rate depending on age
group. That 94.6 is 70 and up, the rest are 99 percentile range.

It exists, but it's over hyped hysteria. You denying that doesn't change it.

The real denial is from the Covid deniers like you. Your math is like saying
the US has 600K dead from Covid, which is 10x a really bad flu season,
but we have 320 mil people so it's just all hyped hysteria. Hyped hysteria
not just in the USA, but around the world.

On Tuesday, May 11, 2021 at 2:18:25 PM UTC-4, Jim Joyce wrote:
On Tue, 11 May 2021 08:24:00 -0700 (PDT), trader_4
wrote:

On Monday, May 10, 2021 at 12:31:24 PM UTC-4, Jim Joyce wrote:
On Mon, 10 May 2021 08:45:19 -0700 (PDT), trader_4
wrote:
On Monday, May 10, 2021 at 10:08:15 AM UTC-4, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 5/10/2021 6:36 AM, Larry wrote:
On 5/10/21 2:03 AM, Jim Joyce wrote:
Did you forget that when the Biden administration took office in January
they inherited no national vaccine program, no plan, not even an outline
for a plan. Zero, nada, zilch. Did you forget that?


President Trump's team did all the heavy lifting before Bribem's thugs
stole the election.
Obviously you get your newsaganda from CNN/ABC/CBS/NBC and the
once-great Google.
Still waiting for Rudy to bring the evidence to court for that election
thing. Should be soon huh? Think it will be this week?

I saw a story recently that Rudy has cut back on his staff. It said that while
up until recently Rudy traveled with a staff of five or so, now it's like one
driver. Other stories say that while Trump has raised hundreds of millions
to pay for he stolen election BS or to be used by Trump's PAC, he has told
his minions not to give any to Rudy. I think Rudy, Powell and Mr. Pillowhead
are in deep doo doo.
Of the three, it seems like Rudy might be in worse shape than the others.
He has the Big Lie in common with the others, but he also seems to have
some shady things that apparently involved Ukraine.

Powell's "you're stupid if you believed me" defense might not work for
Rudy.

As for the Pillow guy, he's all in. He even countersued for $1.6B so we'll
see how that goes. I expect everyone to eventually settle for undisclosed
sums, but they'll have to publicly admit they were lying to support Trump.

I doubt that's going to happen. Would you settle if you're Dominion? I would
push for it to all be heard in court, for all to see what a sad sack of liars these
shysters are. The one case settled so far is by the Dominion exec, who sued
them personally. IDK why he settled, but his situation, his resources are likely
different than that of Dominion. The only way for the American people to see
that it was all lies is for it to go to trial and I hope it does.
I hope the rest of the cases go to trial but it's going to be anticlimactic
when we get there. I expect each of the defense cases to fall apart very
quickly.
I also disagree that Rudy is in the most peril. I would say Lindell is. Rudy has
probably squirreled away a lot of whatever money he has where it will be hard
to get to pay a judgment. Lindell has his pillow company that can't be
squirreled away somewhere. Even if it's possible to do through a trust or
similar, he's likely too stupid to do it, he believes he's going to win.
I vote Lindell for most likely to have multiple courtroom outbursts. If we
get to see the inside of the courtroom, it'll be must see TV.
Remember when Fretwell claimed that 'Trump is gone, let's move on'? That
still cracks me up. Trump is the opposite of gone.

+1

Yes, we were correct, that Trump isn't going to sit by quietly like all the other former
presidents in our lifetimes and beyond. He's still leading the party that he lead
to destruction and Republicans are very eager for more. There are less of them
though. I just heard registered Republicans are down to 25%. I'm one that left.
I've said here before having been a registered Republican for decades, I was curious
to see if the RNC contacted me, asking why I withdrew my registration. If I was
running it, I would be monitoring who's leaving, how many and why. I haven't
heard a peep.
It's pretty amazing to see what's happening with the GOP. This whole period
will become multiple case studies for future historians and college
lectures. The once mighty GOP didn't get destroyed by outside forces, they
voluntarily destroyed themselves.

Once again, for the record, I was wrong and you were right. I predicted
that the Republican party would rid itself of anything related to Trump,
after suffering one of the worst defeats in history. But no, not content
with losing the WH, both houses of Congress, and both Senators from
Georgia, they want to double down and take another dose of what didn't work
before. It's mental illness on a grand scale.

It is amazing. I said 5 years ago that if Trump was elected it would result
in Republicans and conservatives being banished to the wilderness for a
generation or worse. But I said that with a view that it would take voters
that long to forgive and forget the Trump **** show. I didn't think about
exactly how that **** show would end, but like you I figured it would be a
disaster and the Republicans would move on from Trump. It did end with
a total disaster, loss of the WH, Senate and House and topped off with
an insurrection. Yet the Republicans
have chosen lies and denials and they actually believe Trump is their
future. Lindsey Graham said last week that they can't go forward without
Trump. So we haven't even begun the recovery from Trump, there isn't
even a move in that direction. That is something that I didn't see and it
does not bode well for the final outcome. It's as if Trump has infected the
whole party now with a fatal virus.

IDK what will change it going forward. Another big loss in Nov 2022?
But they just dismissed the other losses. Trump getting indicted on
significant charges, eg big tax fraud? Seems doubtful, they will just say
that's fake news, that it's political, etc. Trump going senile, that would do
it. I see Bannon claims he thinks he is in the early stages, but then Bannon
is another indicted scum bucket and I haven't seen any evidence of it.
That's the problem, Trump is still his nasty, despicable, mentally ill self.
Trump having a stroke and dropping dead, that would do it, I guess.
That would remove Trump from the equation, but then you have the rest
of the party still infected with his disease and that will take years to cure,
it it can be cured.



I just sent an email to my congressman, telling him that he should vote to support
Liz Cheney. He likely won't. He voted against impeaching Trump, twice and has
been totally MIA through all of Trump's lies and misdeeds. He;s still acceptable to
the Republicans, he's one of the silent ones. I wonder when they will start to purge
Republicans like him too, when being silent isn't enough, where you have to actively
show your obedience to Trump and lie for him.
Did you see the letter that GOP House leader McCarthy wrote, saying how the
GOP is the party of the big tent, where all ideas and points of view are
welcome? In the next paragraph he says that Cheney has to go because her
views don't align with the party.

No, I didn't, but no surprise. They are in such deep denial he probably has no idea
of the total contradiction there.

On Tuesday, May 11, 2021 at 6:53:02 PM UTC-4, cshenk wrote:
trader_4 wrote:

On Monday, May 10, 2021 at 7:02:30 PM UTC-4, cshenk wrote:
trader_4 wrote:

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600K dead here, get real. So sad that crazy Republicans have
chosen to make masks and vaccines another nasty, divisive ****
show. Apparently they want to lose even more. It's like watching
a house burn down, with the people inside denying it's on fire,
refusing to put the fire out or leave the house, instead
believing crazy conspiracy theories.

Cut with the divisive talk. Thats part of the problem. Stop blaming
it on a party affilication as if that were the only factor and all
people of a group you don't affiliate with are stupid. It's the
sort of thing that has to be affected by individual people.

I don't call either party stupid and as far as divisive, they are
equally to blame.

I attribute the positions and the problems where they reside. Poll
after poll shows that Republicans are the ones that won't wear masks,
that won't get vaccinated. I didn't politicize masks and vaccines,
the Republicans did. I wasn't the party holding Trump death rallies,
no masks, no social distancing. Just look at all the Covid denial
right here, the opposition to masks, to vaccines. If there are any
Democrats, it's very few. It's overwhelmingly the bunch that believe
the election was stolen and all the other modern GOP BS, now that
it's become the cult of the lying orange buffoon.
In other words, you are divisive and believe the democrat (nominally)
stuff about what the other party and all it's people are like.

I was a lifelong Republican until two years ago, when I withdrew my registration
in disgust. I don't look to the Democrats for guidance, you can ask Micky about
that. I look at what I actually see. And in the case of Covid denial, bitching about
masks, attacking CDC, refusing to get vaccinated, that is the Republican party
today. Do you deny that polls show that about half of Republicans say they won't
get vaccinated, while it's only about 15% of Democrats? That it's Republicans
that are mostly bitching about having to wear masks? Claiming that the 600K
Covid dead number is fake? Did you not see a Republican president holding
death rallies, no masks, no social distancing, in the middle of a deadly pandemic?
That didn't come from Democrats, it came from facts.




You are a big part of the divisive problem in the USA. If you can not
regognize it, it's even more sad. Then again, I'm newly re-entered
here and you may be a well known political troll that I m just catching
on to.

So, instead of speaking out I should just shut up? When someone posts that
the 600K dead Covid number is fake, I should not refute it? When they post
about the stolen election lie? When the Republicans are voting to remove
Cheney from her leadership position, while they refused to remove Qanon
crazy Green from her committees, I should shut up?

On Tuesday, May 11, 2021 at 7:44:42 PM UTC-4, cshenk wrote:
Ed Pawlowski wrote:

On 5/11/2021 6:52 PM, cshenk wrote:
trader_4 wrote:

On Monday, May 10, 2021 at 7:02:30 PM UTC-4, cshenk wrote:
trader_4 wrote:

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600K dead here, get real. So sad that crazy Republicans have
chosen to make masks and vaccines another nasty, divisive ****
show. Apparently they want to lose even more. It's like
watching a house burn down, with the people inside denying
it's on fire, refusing to put the fire out or leave the
house, instead believing crazy conspiracy theories.

Cut with the divisive talk. Thats part of the problem. Stop
blaming it on a party affilication as if that were the only
factor and all people of a group you don't affiliate with are
stupid. It's the sort of thing that has to be affected by
individual people.

I don't call either party stupid and as far as divisive, they
are equally to blame.

I attribute the positions and the problems where they reside.
Poll after poll shows that Republicans are the ones that won't
wear masks, that won't get vaccinated. I didn't politicize masks
and vaccines, the Republicans did. I wasn't the party holding
Trump death rallies, no masks, no social distancing. Just look
at all the Covid denial right here, the opposition to masks, to
vaccines. If there are any Democrats, it's very few. It's
overwhelmingly the bunch that believe the election was stolen and
all the other modern GOP BS, now that it's become the cult of
the lying orange buffoon.

In other words, you are divisive and believe the democrat
(nominally) stuff about what the other party and all it's people
are like.

You are a big part of the divisive problem in the USA. If you can
not regognize it, it's even more sad. Then again, I'm newly
re-entered here and you may be a well known political troll that I
m just catching on to.


Trader is an ex-Republican but usually a pretty straight shooter on
his thoughts. Yes, there is more divisiveness in this country than
ever before and along party lines.

I've always been registered Independent but tend to be conservative.
Sadly, the present Republican party is a group now that I'd never be
associated with. There is no party in this country that I'd want to
be associated with.
I'm not really party affiliated at all. Voted democrat and republican
depending on the person and their stances on things. Sometimes, voted
independent. Divisive comments like his, we do not need at this time in
the USA. If you disagree with a specific action, say so but stop
affiliating it to a specific party.

Well that's just ridiculous. Stands on issues are and always
have been associated with parties. Parties choose their positions on issues,
they choose their leaders. And it's never been clearer than now.
Take the stolen election lie, for example.
It's OK to speak out against the stolen election lie, but not OK to say that
it's Republicans, the Republican Party, that are behind it? And it's not like
it's some few crazy Republicans, it's most of them, it's most the Republican
politicians, it's the core of the party's stand going forward. They support
the stolen election lie. Kevin McCarthy is bringing a vote to expel
Liz Cheney from her leadership position because she won't go along with
the lie. That same party would not take action to remove 911 denier,
Sandy Hook denier, full on Qanon crazy Margorie Greene from her
positions, Democrats had to do it. But I should not attribute these things
to a party? WTF? Give us a break.




There may be some party 'leaders' that need to go as the root of the
block voting, but it's generally not the leaders of the country. On the
leaders of the country, you get some good ones and some bad ones. It's
that simple. Party doesn't matter.

I;ll give you the benefit of doubt. Maybe you're just totally oblivious to what is
going on around you. But one "leader" hijacked the Republican Party and
they are still in lockstep behind him.

On Mon, 10 May 2021 11:49:32 -0400, Frank posted for all of us to digest...


On 5/10/2021 9:55 AM, trader_4 wrote:
On Sunday, May 9, 2021 at 1:40:01 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Sun, 9 May 2021 09:26:16 -0700 (PDT), trader_4
wrote:

On Saturday, May 8, 2021 at 4:13:14 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Sat, 08 May 2021 14:22:58 -0400, micky
wrote:

**Apparently if vaccinated, there's almost no chance of dying even if
you're in the 6%, and on average you will get less sick, but I don't
know how much. I haven't seen details about that, except I just read the
paragraph above.
When are you folks going to admit we have fallen for hysteria?

When are you going to admit that we have 600K dead Americans from Covid?
That we have many times that hospitalized, many for weeks, people with long
Covid, people that are permanently damaged, people who needed lung transplants?
That Covid is not just the flu. There is no hysteria, but there is a lot of Covid
denial.
Covid was bad but our response may have been worse in the long run.
We are not even that sure most of the measures that crushed our
economy were even effective. After all 600,000 died anyway.

And how many would have died if we did nothing? Good grief.


The places
with the tightest restrictions did as poorly (or worse) than the ones
that ran loose.


That's mostly BS too. In NY, NJ, CT we were close to disaster. As soon as
restrictions were put in place last spring, the infection rate plummeted.
It remained low while restrictions were in place, as they started to come off,
it began increasing again. South Dakota was spared the initial infections
that hit us here, that came from Europe. The dopey governor there chose
total trumptard denial, refused to require masks and allowed Sturgis to be
held. It seemed inconceivable that anyone could be so stupid as to hold
a ten day drunken gathering of 200K people from all over the US, but that's
exactly what they did. It's obvious that spread disease. This isn't the
Middle Ages, we know what a virus is, we know the mechanisms by which it
spreads. And that reckless fool Noam provided the perfect environment.


Can't you ever STFU and quit politicizing everything?

+1000 Well stated! It doesn't belong in this group.

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Tekkie

On Wed, 12 May 2021 05:34:53 -0700 (PDT), trader_4 posted for all of us to
digest...


On Sunday, May 9, 2021 at 2:21:29 PM UTC-4, Hawk wrote:
On 5/8/2021 4:25 PM, Rod Speed wrote:
wrote
micky wrote

**Apparently if vaccinated, there's almost no chance of dying even if
you're in the 6%, and on average you will get less sick, but I don't
know how much. I haven't seen details about that, except I just read
the paragraph above.

When are you folks going to admit we have fallen for hysteria?

Never, because there is no hysteria, just a recognition that its a very
serious and very infectious disease and that its very undesirable that
it killed 600K in your country alone before you lot had enough of a clue
to do what is necessary to bring it under control
instead of mindlessly rabbiting on about habeas
corpus and the constitution.
If you are just going to get a little cold that you get over

Try telling that to the 600K its killed in your country alone,
let alone those whose quality of life has been ****ed over by long
covid. You are as stupid as that ****wit orange clown.
why are we still being silly about this?

Fools like Muggles and jimmy always will be.
The vaccine is available for anyone who wants it and if they are
waiting for Jesus to tell them to get it they will meet him soon
enough .... or not.

We still don't have any good numbers about how many people have
acquired immunity from having a mild case and getting over it.

Because its too hard to measure and is a useless number as far as what
we should be doing about the virus anyway. And its much too early to
tell yet how long that immunity will last.
It is very likely they never got
tested so they are not in the stats.

Yes.
Fauci predicted that might be 80% of those infected.

Irrelevant to what it makes sense to do now.

And yet, there's still a 94.6 to 99.997 survival rate depending on age
group. That 94.6 is 70 and up, the rest are 99 percentile range.

It exists, but it's over hyped hysteria. You denying that doesn't change it.

The real denial is from the Covid deniers like you. Your math is like saying
the US has 600K dead from Covid, which is 10x a really bad flu season,
but we have 320 mil people so it's just all hyped hysteria. Hyped hysteria
not just in the USA, but around the world.

Generated in a Chinese lab paid for US taxpayers With Dr. Fauci's approval.

If you believe anything the government says you are mislead.

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Tekkie

On Mon, 10 May 2021 08:06:45 -0700 (PDT), trader_4 posted for all of us to
digest...


It has been tested and approved under EUA. We have 600K Americans
dead, 3 mil dead worldwide, it is an emergency, you know.


And over 3000 deaths directly attributed to the vaccines.

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Tekkie

On Mon, 10 May 2021 18:02:21 -0500, cshenk posted for all of us to digest...


trader_4 wrote:

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600K dead here, get real. So sad that crazy Republicans have chosen
to make masks and vaccines another nasty, divisive **** show.
Apparently they want to lose even more. It's like watching a house
burn down, with the people inside denying it's on fire, refusing to
put the fire out or leave the house, instead believing crazy
conspiracy theories.

Cut with the divisive talk. Thats part of the problem. Stop blaming
it on a party affilication as if that were the only factor and all
people of a group you don't affiliate with are stupid. It's the sort
of thing that has to be affected by individual people.

I don't call either party stupid and as far as divisive, they are
equally to blame.

Thank you, stated more eloquently than I can.

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Tekkie

On Mon, 10 May 2021 21:10:26 -0500, Jim Joyce posted for all of us to digest...


Canadian kindergarten is probably similar to our 3rd grade. When do
Canadian students stop eating paste? Here it's partway through 4th grade,
roughly.



How do you know that? When you BS like this you are throwing your creditability
away.

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Tekkie

On Tue, 11 May 2021 00:31:44 -0400, posted for all of us to
digest...


How long do you think we should be under someone's thumb about this?
You ****ers had a year to flatten the curve. We still played the mask
game even when we saw open states doing better than closed states. Now
we have the vaccine and vaccinations are reaching the saturation
point. Anyone willing to get one has them.
What is the end game? At a certain point we have to stop thinking
there is one more thing we should do before our life can go back to
normal.
You can stay home wearing your mask and not answering the door but
most of us think, once you are vaccinated and you know anyone else who
wants to be is, it is time for Dr Darwin to take over.


The subject of acquired immunity never enters their mind. In fact, if you have
the antibodies you are discouraged from receiving the vaccine.

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Tekkie

On Tue, 11 May 2021 00:31:05 -0500, Jim Joyce posted for all of us to digest...

How did a novel coronavirus become a political thing?


By you and your ilk as proven incessantly in this group and belittling others
that don't share your views.

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Tekkie

On 5/12/2021 3:56 PM, Tekkie� wrote:

On Mon, 10 May 2021 08:06:45 -0700 (PDT), trader_4 posted for all of us to
digest...


It has been tested and approved under EUA. We have 600K Americans
dead, 3 mil dead worldwide, it is an emergency, you know.


And over 3000 deaths directly attributed to the vaccines.


Do you have a cite for that? Sure, people died but they initially gave
the vaccine to seniors already in nursing homes. They were not linked
to the vaccine.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...se-events.html

Over 259 million doses of COVID-19 vaccines were administered in the
United States from December 14, 2020, through May 10, 2021. During this
time, VAERS received 4,434 reports of death (0.0017%) among people who
received a COVID-19 vaccine. CDC and FDA physicians review each case
report of death as soon as notified and CDC requests medical records to
further assess reports. A review of available clinical information,
including death certificates, autopsy, and medical records has not
established a causal link to COVID-19 vaccines. However, recent reports
indicate a plausible causal relationship between the J&J/Janssen
COVID-19 Vaccine and a rare and serious adverse event€”blood clots with
low platelets€”which has caused deaths.

Tucker Carlson is not a cite, he is a buffoon with a TV show.
https://tinyurl.com/4umvu8

On Tue, 11 May 2021 00:31:05 -0500, Jim Joyce posted for all of us to digest...


I was talking to a couple of neighbor kids the other day. They're home
schooled and they know much more about the pandemic,


Because the teachers wouldn't enter schools, so the parents were trapped and
fed the same crap you espouse.

Around here the schools have been open for a long time. Nobody has died or even
closed a school because of it. This is a very good district; where the teachers
move so they can be assured of a good education for their kids.

Other districts switch around, hybrid, at home, in school; have a much higher
rate of infection.

I'm glad you're you're indoctrinating (talking) to the kids. I'm surprised they
wanted to be near you rather than having fun.

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Tekkie

On Tue, 11 May 2021 20:29:15 -0400, posted for all of us to
digest...


The point is the feds are not doing ****. It is all up to the
governors but maybe that did not trickle down to Mississippi.
Maybe that is why your state is still last in vaccination rate.


That is correct, in fact, govs Combover and Murphy demanded they be in charge
and they got it. Look what happened. They got everything they wanted (and more)
but when it comes to the blame game - shields up.

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Tekkie

On Tue, 11 May 2021 23:18:53 -0500, Jim Joyce posted for all of us to digest...


You used to be right about that, but news flash, we held a Presidential
election last November and the orange idiot was replaced by a competent,
fit, President who took things seriously. Things couldn't possibly be more
different between the two administrations.


When you say post this we all know you are a troll. I won't go into the gutter
with you.

Over & out.

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Tekkie

On Tue, 11 May 2021 13:18:21 -0500, Jim Joyce posted for all of us to digest...


On Tue, 11 May 2021 08:24:00 -0700 (PDT), trader_4
wrote:

On Monday, May 10, 2021 at 12:31:24 PM UTC-4, Jim Joyce wrote:
On Mon, 10 May 2021 08:45:19 -0700 (PDT), trader_4
wrote:
On Monday, May 10, 2021 at 10:08:15 AM UTC-4, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 5/10/2021 6:36 AM, Larry wrote:
On 5/10/21 2:03 AM, Jim Joyce wrote:
Did you forget that when the Biden administration took office in January
they inherited no national vaccine program, no plan, not even an outline
for a plan. Zero, nada, zilch. Did you forget that?


President Trump's team did all the heavy lifting before Bribem's thugs
stole the election.
Obviously you get your newsaganda from CNN/ABC/CBS/NBC and the
once-great Google.
Still waiting for Rudy to bring the evidence to court for that election
thing. Should be soon huh? Think it will be this week?

I saw a story recently that Rudy has cut back on his staff. It said that while
up until recently Rudy traveled with a staff of five or so, now it's like one
driver. Other stories say that while Trump has raised hundreds of millions
to pay for he stolen election BS or to be used by Trump's PAC, he has told
his minions not to give any to Rudy. I think Rudy, Powell and Mr. Pillowhead
are in deep doo doo.
Of the three, it seems like Rudy might be in worse shape than the others.
He has the Big Lie in common with the others, but he also seems to have
some shady things that apparently involved Ukraine.

Powell's "you're stupid if you believed me" defense might not work for
Rudy.

As for the Pillow guy, he's all in. He even countersued for $1.6B so we'll
see how that goes. I expect everyone to eventually settle for undisclosed
sums, but they'll have to publicly admit they were lying to support Trump.

I doubt that's going to happen. Would you settle if you're Dominion? I would
push for it to all be heard in court, for all to see what a sad sack of liars these
shysters are. The one case settled so far is by the Dominion exec, who sued
them personally. IDK why he settled, but his situation, his resources are likely
different than that of Dominion. The only way for the American people to see
that it was all lies is for it to go to trial and I hope it does.

I hope the rest of the cases go to trial but it's going to be anticlimactic
when we get there. I expect each of the defense cases to fall apart very
quickly.


I also disagree that Rudy is in the most peril. I would say Lindell is. Rudy has
probably squirreled away a lot of whatever money he has where it will be hard
to get to pay a judgment. Lindell has his pillow company that can't be
squirreled away somewhere. Even if it's possible to do through a trust or
similar, he's likely too stupid to do it, he believes he's going to win.

I vote Lindell for most likely to have multiple courtroom outbursts. If we
get to see the inside of the courtroom, it'll be must see TV.


Remember when Fretwell claimed that 'Trump is gone, let's move on'? That
still cracks me up. Trump is the opposite of gone.

+1

Yes, we were correct, that Trump isn't going to sit by quietly like all the other former
presidents in our lifetimes and beyond. He's still leading the party that he lead
to destruction and Republicans are very eager for more. There are less of them
though. I just heard registered Republicans are down to 25%. I'm one that left.
I've said here before having been a registered Republican for decades, I was curious
to see if the RNC contacted me, asking why I withdrew my registration. If I was
running it, I would be monitoring who's leaving, how many and why. I haven't
heard a peep.

It's pretty amazing to see what's happening with the GOP. This whole period
will become multiple case studies for future historians and college
lectures. The once mighty GOP didn't get destroyed by outside forces, they
voluntarily destroyed themselves.

Once again, for the record, I was wrong and you were right. I predicted
that the Republican party would rid itself of anything related to Trump,
after suffering one of the worst defeats in history. But no, not content
with losing the WH, both houses of Congress, and both Senators from
Georgia, they want to double down and take another dose of what didn't work
before. It's mental illness on a grand scale.


I just sent an email to my congressman, telling him that he should vote to support
Liz Cheney. He likely won't. He voted against impeaching Trump, twice and has
been totally MIA through all of Trump's lies and misdeeds. He;s still acceptable to
the Republicans, he's one of the silent ones. I wonder when they will start to purge
Republicans like him too, when being silent isn't enough, where you have to actively
show your obedience to Trump and lie for him.

Did you see the letter that GOP House leader McCarthy wrote, saying how the
GOP is the party of the big tent, where all ideas and points of view are
welcome? In the next paragraph he says that Cheney has to go because her
views don't align with the party.

Troll

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Tekkie

On Sunday, May 9, 2021 at 12:35:38 PM UTC-4, trader_4 wrote:
On Saturday, May 8, 2021 at 8:34:54 PM UTC-4, Roger Blake wrote:
On 2021-05-08, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
So what is happening in India is just hysteria? Seems sensible to take
some precautions until we know what is happening. Seems to be on the
right path but could stall if people refuse vaccinations.
India is a 3rd-world country with many people living in unsanitary and crowded
conditions. It is reasonable to conclude that is a contributing factor.
And the US, which is not, has at least 600K dead from Covid, the excess mortality
is about 50% higher than that.

It appears that you are holding yourself out as a doctor and giving out medical
advice.
Nonsense. Ed is just applying common sense and using all the good information
that is available to those that will look.
The virus manufacturers are shielded from lawsuits in the U.S. if their
products cause harm. Are you stepping up to the plate and accepting financial
responsibility if your medical advice to take these experimental vaccines
turns out to be harmful?
It's not as if this is a vaccine for a minor disease that is of little consequence.
We have 600K DEAD, many times that hospitalized costing us all $$$$, all the
lost productivity, the impact to the economy. Any risk from the vaccines pales
in comparison to that. I could ask why you're a coward, refusing to take a very
tiny risk from the vaccine which just helps the disease continue to spread, to
mutate, to make people sick and take more lives. This is the biggest challenge
we've had since WWII and sadly a lot of people are choosing fear, ignorance and
putting themselves above others instead of uniting to beat this disease. Was
this the response to other diseases? Polio? Sadly we are here because some
loons have decided to turn this into another nasty, stupid political **** show.
I'm so glad I withdrew my registration as a Republican two years ago, I was gone
before two impeachments, the insurrection, turning Georgia from red to blue
and now anti-vax lunacy.

Note that in the U.S., businesses that require employees to be vaccinated
are responsible for any damages that result due to adverse reactions:

https://www.natlawreview.com/article...cine-reactions

Deciding whether to be a lab rat for medical experimentation is an individual
decision. I intend to remain in the control group for quite some time.
Go ahead, hide under your bed, instead of doing your part to beat Covid and
save lives, possibly your own.
Good post trader.

Tekkie© writes:

On Wed, 12 May 2021 05:34:53 -0700 (PDT), trader_4 posted for all of us to
digest...


The real denial is from the Covid deniers like you. Your math is like saying
the US has 600K dead from Covid, which is 10x a really bad flu season,
but we have 320 mil people so it's just all hyped hysteria. Hyped hysteria
not just in the USA, but around the world.

Generated in a Chinese lab paid for US taxpayers With Dr. Fauci's approval.

If you believe anything the government says you are mislead.

--
Tekkie

Take your own advice dickhead.

Can't you ever STFU and quit politicizing everything?

+1000 Well stated! It doesn't belong in this group.

--
Tekkie

"Tekkie©" wrote in message
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On Mon, 10 May 2021 08:06:45 -0700 (PDT), trader_4 posted for all of us to
digest...


It has been tested and approved under EUA. We have 600K Americans
dead, 3 mil dead worldwide, it is an emergency, you know.


And over 3000 deaths directly attributed to the vaccines.

Where did you get that number from ?

"Tekkie©" wrote in message
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On Tue, 11 May 2021 00:31:44 -0400, posted for all of us
to
digest...


How long do you think we should be under someone's thumb about this?
You ****ers had a year to flatten the curve. We still played the mask
game even when we saw open states doing better than closed states. Now
we have the vaccine and vaccinations are reaching the saturation
point. Anyone willing to get one has them.
What is the end game? At a certain point we have to stop thinking
there is one more thing we should do before our life can go back to
normal.
You can stay home wearing your mask and not answering the door but
most of us think, once you are vaccinated and you know anyone else who
wants to be is, it is time for Dr Darwin to take over.


The subject of acquired immunity never enters their mind.

In fact, if you have the antibodies you are discouraged from receiving the
vaccine.

Bull****.

On Thu, 13 May 2021 08:38:05 +1000, Joey, better known as cantankerous
trolling senile geezer Rodent Speed, wrote:


FLUSH the trolling pest's latest troll**** unread

On Thu, 13 May 2021 08:36:01 +1000, Joey, better known as cantankerous
trolling senile geezer Rodent Speed, wrote:


FLUSH the trolling senile asshole's latest troll**** unread

--
Norman Wells addressing trolling senile Rodent:
"Ah, the voice of scum speaks."
MID:

"Tekkie©" wrote in message
...

On Tue, 11 May 2021 23:18:53 -0500, Jim Joyce posted for all of us to
digest...


You used to be right about that, but news flash, we held a Presidential
election last November and the orange idiot was replaced by a competent,
fit, President who took things seriously. Things couldn't possibly be
more
different between the two administrations.


When you say post this we all know you are a troll.
I won't go into the gutter with you.

Over & out.

Why are you out of your tree ?

On Thu, 13 May 2021 08:47:16 +1000, Joey, better known as cantankerous
trolling senile geezer Rodent Speed, wrote:

FLUSH the trolling senile asshole's latest troll**** unread

--
Bill Wright to Rodent Speed:
"That confirms my opinion that you are a despicable little ****."
MID:

On 5/12/2021 1:16 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 5/12/2021 3:56 PM, Tekkie� wrote:

On Mon, 10 May 2021 08:06:45 -0700 (PDT), trader_4 posted for all of
us to
digest...


It has been tested and approved under EUA.Â* We have 600K Americans
dead, 3 mil dead worldwide, it is an emergency, you know.


And over 3000 deaths directly attributed to the vaccines.


And hundreds of thousands saved by the vaccines.

On 5/13/2021 2:41 PM, Bob F wrote:
On 5/12/2021 1:16 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 5/12/2021 3:56 PM, Tekkie� wrote:

On Mon, 10 May 2021 08:06:45 -0700 (PDT), trader_4 posted for all of
us to
digest...


It has been tested and approved under EUA.Â* We have 600K Americans
dead, 3 mil dead worldwide, it is an emergency, you know.


And over 3000 deaths directly attributed to the vaccines.


And hundreds of thousands saved by the vaccines.

Tekkie wrote that, not me.