On Wed, 12 May 2021 16:16:28 -0400, Ed Pawlowski posted for all of us to
digest...


On 5/12/2021 3:56 PM, Tekkie? wrote:

On Mon, 10 May 2021 08:06:45 -0700 (PDT), trader_4 posted for all of us to
digest...


It has been tested and approved under EUA. We have 600K Americans
dead, 3 mil dead worldwide, it is an emergency, you know.


And over 3000 deaths directly attributed to the vaccines.


Do you have a cite for that? Sure, people died but they initially gave
the vaccine to seniors already in nursing homes. They were not linked
to the vaccine.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...se-events.html

Over 259 million doses of COVID-19 vaccines were administered in the
United States from December 14, 2020, through May 10, 2021. During this
time, VAERS received 4,434 reports of death (0.0017%) among people who
received a COVID-19 vaccine. CDC and FDA physicians review each case
report of death as soon as notified and CDC requests medical records to
further assess reports. A review of available clinical information,
including death certificates, autopsy, and medical records has not
established a causal link to COVID-19 vaccines. However, recent reports
indicate a plausible causal relationship between the J&J/Janssen
COVID-19 Vaccine and a rare and serious adverse event?blood clots with
low platelets?which has caused deaths.

Tucker Carlson is not a cite, he is a buffoon with a TV show.
https://tinyurl.com/4umvu8

https://www.fda.gov/drugs/questions-...ent-reporting-
system-faers/fda-adverse-event-reporting-system-faers-public-dashboard

I will not attempt to change your mind.

--
Tekkie

On 5/13/2021 4:24 PM, Tekkie� wrote:

On Wed, 12 May 2021 16:16:28 -0400, Ed Pawlowski posted for all of us to
digest...


On 5/12/2021 3:56 PM, Tekkie? wrote:

On Mon, 10 May 2021 08:06:45 -0700 (PDT), trader_4 posted for all of us to
digest...


It has been tested and approved under EUA. We have 600K Americans
dead, 3 mil dead worldwide, it is an emergency, you know.


And over 3000 deaths directly attributed to the vaccines.


Do you have a cite for that? Sure, people died but they initially gave
the vaccine to seniors already in nursing homes. They were not linked
to the vaccine.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...se-events.html

Over 259 million doses of COVID-19 vaccines were administered in the
United States from December 14, 2020, through May 10, 2021. During this
time, VAERS received 4,434 reports of death (0.0017%) among people who
received a COVID-19 vaccine. CDC and FDA physicians review each case
report of death as soon as notified and CDC requests medical records to
further assess reports. A review of available clinical information,
including death certificates, autopsy, and medical records has not
established a causal link to COVID-19 vaccines. However, recent reports
indicate a plausible causal relationship between the J&J/Janssen
COVID-19 Vaccine and a rare and serious adverse event?blood clots with
low platelets?which has caused deaths.

Tucker Carlson is not a cite, he is a buffoon with a TV show.
https://tinyurl.com/4umvu8

https://www.fda.gov/drugs/questions-...ent-reporting-
system-faers/fda-adverse-event-reporting-system-faers-public-dashboard

I will not attempt to change your mind.



Good, because the data does not show 3000 deaths from covid vaccine.

It does show adverse effects. Also, note this statement in the link you
provided:
While the FAERS dashboard offers stakeholders many more ways of
searching for and organizing data on adverse events reported to the FDA
for many drug and biologic products, there remain limitations to the
data. For example, while FAERS contains reports on a particular drug or
biologic, this does not mean that the drug or biologic caused the
adverse event

Tekkie© writes:

On Wed, 12 May 2021 16:16:28 -0400, Ed Pawlowski posted for all of us to
digest...


On 5/12/2021 3:56 PM, Tekkie? wrote:

On Mon, 10 May 2021 08:06:45 -0700 (PDT), trader_4 posted for all of us to
digest...


It has been tested and approved under EUA. We have 600K Americans
dead, 3 mil dead worldwide, it is an emergency, you know.


And over 3000 deaths directly attributed to the vaccines.


Do you have a cite for that? Sure, people died but they initially gave
the vaccine to seniors already in nursing homes. They were not linked
to the vaccine.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...se-events.html

Over 259 million doses of COVID-19 vaccines were administered in the
United States from December 14, 2020, through May 10, 2021. During this
time, VAERS received 4,434 reports of death (0.0017%) among people who
received a COVID-19 vaccine. CDC and FDA physicians review each case
report of death as soon as notified and CDC requests medical records to
further assess reports. A review of available clinical information,
including death certificates, autopsy, and medical records has not
established a causal link to COVID-19 vaccines. However, recent reports
indicate a plausible causal relationship between the J&J/Janssen
COVID-19 Vaccine and a rare and serious adverse event?blood clots with
low platelets?which has caused deaths.

Tucker Carlson is not a cite, he is a buffoon with a TV show.
https://tinyurl.com/4umvu8

https://www.fda.gov/drugs/questions-...ent-reporting-
system-faers/fda-adverse-event-reporting-system-faers-public-dashboard

I will not attempt to change your mind.

Because you posted a link to the FDA event reporting system? Did you
actually read the disclaimer?

"Safety reports are submitted by manufacturers, medical professionals
and consumers. Submission of a safety report does not constitute an
admission that medical personell, user facility, importer, distributor , manufacturer or
product caused or contributed to the event."

"Although these reports are a valuable source of information, the surveillance system has
limitations, including the potential submission of incomplete, inaccurate, untimely,
unverified information."

So your link does not provide any evidence for your claim, and certainly
doesn't falsify the CDC report above of 4434 deaths amongst people who
received the vaccine. Even the CDC doesn't claim that those 4434 deaths
were _due_ to the vaccine, just that they died sometime after receiving
the vaccine.

Rule number one of statistics:

Correlation is not Caustion.

You've shown nothing that supports the primary assertion.

You need to provide some actual, you know, evidence.

On 5/13/2021 11:47 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 5/13/2021 2:41 PM, Bob F wrote:
On 5/12/2021 1:16 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 5/12/2021 3:56 PM, Tekkie� wrote:

On Mon, 10 May 2021 08:06:45 -0700 (PDT), trader_4 posted for all of
us to
digest...


It has been tested and approved under EUA.Â* We have 600K Americans
dead, 3 mil dead worldwide, it is an emergency, you know.


And over 3000 deaths directly attributed to the vaccines.


And hundreds of thousands saved by the vaccines.

Tekkie wrote that, not me.

Yes, I know that. I cut out what followed to answer him. I don't get his
posts directly. That seemed the most appropriate way to indicate what I
was responding to.

On 5/13/2021 1:53 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 5/13/2021 4:24 PM, Tekkie� wrote:

On Wed, 12 May 2021 16:16:28 -0400, Ed Pawlowski posted for all of us to
digest...


On 5/12/2021 3:56 PM, Tekkie? wrote:

On Mon, 10 May 2021 08:06:45 -0700 (PDT), trader_4 posted for all of
us to
digest...


It has been tested and approved under EUA.Â* We have 600K Americans
dead, 3 mil dead worldwide, it is an emergency, you know.


And over 3000 deaths directly attributed to the vaccines.


Do you have a cite for that?Â* Sure, people died but they initially gave
the vaccine to seniors already in nursing homes.Â* They were not linked
to the vaccine.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...se-events.html


Over 259 million doses of COVID-19 vaccines were administered in the
United States from December 14, 2020, through May 10, 2021. During this
time, VAERS received 4,434 reports of death (0.0017%) among people who
received a COVID-19 vaccine. CDC and FDA physicians review each case
report of death as soon as notified and CDC requests medical records to
further assess reports. A review of available clinical information,
including death certificates, autopsy, and medical records has not
established a causal link to COVID-19 vaccines. However, recent reports
indicate a plausible causal relationship between the J&J/Janssen
COVID-19 Vaccine and a rare and serious adverse event?blood clots with
low platelets?which has caused deaths.

Tucker Carlson is not a cite, he is a buffoon with a TV show.
https://tinyurl.com/4umvu8

https://www.fda.gov/drugs/questions-...ent-reporting-

system-faers/fda-adverse-event-reporting-system-faers-public-dashboard

I will not attempt to change your mind.



Good, because the data does not show 3000 deaths from covid vaccine.

It does show adverse effects.Â* Also, note this statement in the link you
provided:
While the FAERS dashboard offers stakeholders many more ways of
searching for and organizing data on adverse events reported to the FDA
for many drug and biologic products, there remain limitations to the
data. For example, while FAERS contains reports on a particular drug or
biologic, this does not mean that the drug or biologic caused the
adverse event

I'd like to see the numbers for blood clot deaths that might be
associated with the vaccine, compared to blood clot deaths caused by
covid per person infected. That was one of the first often reported
deaths caused by covid.

On 5/12/2021 3:38 PM, Joey wrote:


"Tekkie©" wrote in message
...

On Tue, 11 May 2021 00:31:44 -0400, posted for all
of us to
digest...


How long do you think we should be under someone's thumb about this?
You ****ers had a year to flatten the curve. We still played the mask
game even when we saw open states doing better than closed states. Now
we have the vaccine and vaccinations are reaching the saturation
point. Anyone willing to get one has them.
What is the end game? At a certain point we have to stop thinking
there is one more thing we should do before our life can go back to
normal.
You can stay home wearing your mask and not answering the door but
most of us think, once you are vaccinated and you know anyone else who
wants to be is, it is time for Dr Darwin to take over.


The subject of acquired immunity never enters their mind.

In fact, if you have the antibodies you are discouraged from receiving
the vaccine.

Bull****.

CDC is specifically telling people who were previously infected that
they definitely SHOULD get vaccinated. The vaccines offer much better
protection against future infection, especially by some of the variants.
Many people in Brazil have been more seriously infected and died by the
variant there after having survived a first case of covid.

"Bob F" wrote in message
...
On 5/13/2021 1:53 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 5/13/2021 4:24 PM, Tekkie� wrote:

On Wed, 12 May 2021 16:16:28 -0400, Ed Pawlowski posted for all of us to
digest...


On 5/12/2021 3:56 PM, Tekkie? wrote:

On Mon, 10 May 2021 08:06:45 -0700 (PDT), trader_4 posted for all of
us to
digest...


It has been tested and approved under EUA. We have 600K Americans
dead, 3 mil dead worldwide, it is an emergency, you know.


And over 3000 deaths directly attributed to the vaccines.


Do you have a cite for that? Sure, people died but they initially gave
the vaccine to seniors already in nursing homes. They were not linked
to the vaccine.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...se-events.html

Over 259 million doses of COVID-19 vaccines were administered in the
United States from December 14, 2020, through May 10, 2021. During this
time, VAERS received 4,434 reports of death (0.0017%) among people who
received a COVID-19 vaccine. CDC and FDA physicians review each case
report of death as soon as notified and CDC requests medical records to
further assess reports. A review of available clinical information,
including death certificates, autopsy, and medical records has not
established a causal link to COVID-19 vaccines. However, recent reports
indicate a plausible causal relationship between the J&J/Janssen
COVID-19 Vaccine and a rare and serious adverse event?blood clots with
low platelets?which has caused deaths.

Tucker Carlson is not a cite, he is a buffoon with a TV show.
https://tinyurl.com/4umvu8

https://www.fda.gov/drugs/questions-...ent-reporting-
system-faers/fda-adverse-event-reporting-system-faers-public-dashboard

I will not attempt to change your mind.



Good, because the data does not show 3000 deaths from covid vaccine.

It does show adverse effects. Also, note this statement in the link you
provided:
While the FAERS dashboard offers stakeholders many more ways of searching
for and organizing data on adverse events reported to the FDA for many
drug and biologic products, there remain limitations to the data. For
example, while FAERS contains reports on a particular drug or biologic,
this does not mean that the drug or biologic caused the adverse event

I'd like to see the numbers for blood clot deaths that might be associated
with the vaccine, compared to blood clot deaths caused by covid per person
infected. That was one of the first often reported deaths caused by covid.

Thats missing the point tho when the Pfizer and Moderna dont produce blood
clots.

"Bob F" wrote in message
...
On 5/12/2021 3:38 PM, Joey wrote:


"Tekkie©" wrote in message
...

On Tue, 11 May 2021 00:31:44 -0400, posted for all of
us to
digest...


How long do you think we should be under someone's thumb about this?
You ****ers had a year to flatten the curve. We still played the mask
game even when we saw open states doing better than closed states. Now
we have the vaccine and vaccinations are reaching the saturation
point. Anyone willing to get one has them.
What is the end game? At a certain point we have to stop thinking
there is one more thing we should do before our life can go back to
normal.
You can stay home wearing your mask and not answering the door but
most of us think, once you are vaccinated and you know anyone else who
wants to be is, it is time for Dr Darwin to take over.


The subject of acquired immunity never enters their mind.

In fact, if you have the antibodies you are discouraged from receiving
the vaccine.

Bull****.

CDC is specifically telling people who were previously infected that they
definitely SHOULD get vaccinated. The vaccines offer much better
protection against future infection, especially by some of the variants.
Many people in Brazil have been more seriously infected and died by the
variant there after having survived a first case of covid.

And the vaccination fixes quite a few who have long covid too.

On 5/13/2021 5:05 PM, Joey wrote:


"Bob F" wrote in message
...
On 5/12/2021 3:38 PM, Joey wrote:


"Tekkie©" wrote in message
...

On Tue, 11 May 2021 00:31:44 -0400, posted for all
of us to
digest...


How long do you think we should be under someone's thumb about this?
You ****ers had a year to flatten the curve. We still played the mask
game even when we saw open states doing better than closed states. Now
we have the vaccine and vaccinations are reaching the saturation
point. Anyone willing to get one has them.
What is the end game? At a certain point we have to stop thinking
there is one more thing we should do before our life can go back to
normal.
You can stay home wearing your mask and not answering the door but
most of us think, once you are vaccinated and you know anyone else who
wants to be is, it is time for Dr Darwin to take over.


The subject of acquired immunity never enters their mind.

In fact, if you have the antibodies you are discouraged from
receiving the vaccine.

Bull****.

CDC is specifically telling people who were previously infected that
they definitely SHOULD get vaccinated. The vaccines offer much better
protection against future infection, especially by some of the
variants. Many people in Brazil have been more seriously infected and
died by the variant there after having survived a first case of covid.

And the vaccination fixes quite a few who have long covid too.

Indeed!

On 05/13/2021 02:53 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

Good, because the data does not show 3000 deaths from covid vaccine.

It does show adverse effects. Also, note this statement in the link you
provided:
While the FAERS dashboard offers stakeholders many more ways of
searching for and organizing data on adverse events reported to the FDA
for many drug and biologic products, there remain limitations to the
data. For example, while FAERS contains reports on a particular drug or
biologic, this does not mean that the drug or biologic caused the
adverse event

There is irony in any death, no matter what comorbitities were present,
was caused by covid. otoh, any death, no matter how closely occurring,
was not caused by covid vaccine.

"rbowman" wrote in message
...
On 05/13/2021 02:53 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

Good, because the data does not show 3000 deaths from covid vaccine.

It does show adverse effects. Also, note this statement in the link you
provided:
While the FAERS dashboard offers stakeholders many more ways of
searching for and organizing data on adverse events reported to the FDA
for many drug and biologic products, there remain limitations to the
data. For example, while FAERS contains reports on a particular drug or
biologic, this does not mean that the drug or biologic caused the
adverse event

There is irony in any death, no matter what comorbitities were present,
was caused by covid.

Thats bull****.

otoh, any death, no matter how closely occurring, was not caused by covid
vaccine.

Thats bull**** too with CVTs and PVTs with the astrazeneca vaccine.

On 05/13/2021 09:17 PM, Joey wrote:


"rbowman" wrote in message
...
On 05/13/2021 02:53 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

Good, because the data does not show 3000 deaths from covid vaccine.

It does show adverse effects. Also, note this statement in the link you
provided:
While the FAERS dashboard offers stakeholders many more ways of
searching for and organizing data on adverse events reported to the FDA
for many drug and biologic products, there remain limitations to the
data. For example, while FAERS contains reports on a particular drug or
biologic, this does not mean that the drug or biologic caused the
adverse event

There is irony in any death, no matter what comorbitities were
present, was caused by covid.

Thats bull****.

otoh, any death, no matter how closely occurring, was not caused by
covid vaccine.

Thats bull**** too with CVTs and PVTs with the astrazeneca vaccine.

Spoken like a true connoisseur of bull****.

"rbowman" wrote in message
...
On 05/13/2021 09:17 PM, Joey wrote:


"rbowman" wrote in message
...
On 05/13/2021 02:53 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

Good, because the data does not show 3000 deaths from covid vaccine.

It does show adverse effects. Also, note this statement in the link
you
provided:
While the FAERS dashboard offers stakeholders many more ways of
searching for and organizing data on adverse events reported to the FDA
for many drug and biologic products, there remain limitations to the
data. For example, while FAERS contains reports on a particular drug or
biologic, this does not mean that the drug or biologic caused the
adverse event

There is irony in any death, no matter what comorbitities were
present, was caused by covid.

Thats bull****.

otoh, any death, no matter how closely occurring, was not caused by
covid vaccine.

Thats bull**** too with CVTs and PVTs with the astrazeneca vaccine.

Spoken like a true connoisseur of bull****.

You never could bull**** your way out of a wet paper bag.

On Thu, 13 May 2021 20:50:51 -0600, rbowman
wrote:

On 05/13/2021 02:53 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

Good, because the data does not show 3000 deaths from covid vaccine.

It does show adverse effects. Also, note this statement in the link you
provided:
While the FAERS dashboard offers stakeholders many more ways of
searching for and organizing data on adverse events reported to the FDA
for many drug and biologic products, there remain limitations to the
data. For example, while FAERS contains reports on a particular drug or
biologic, this does not mean that the drug or biologic caused the
adverse event

There is irony in any death, no matter what comorbitities were present,
was caused by covid. otoh, any death, no matter how closely occurring,
was not caused by covid vaccine.


This is science by press conference.

On Fri, 14 May 2021 10:05:53 +1000, Joey, better known as cantankerous
trolling senile geezer Rodent Speed, wrote:


And the vaccination fixes quite a few who have long covid too.

It obviously doesn't fix your sociopathy, you abnormal trolling senile
cretin!

--
Website (from 2007) dedicated to the 86-year-old senile Australian
cretin's pathological trolling:
https://www.pcreview.co.uk/threads/r...d-faq.2973853/

On Fri, 14 May 2021 10:03:35 +1000, Joey, better known as cantankerous
trolling senile geezer Rodent Speed, wrote:


That¢s missing the point tho when the Pfizer and Moderna don¢t produce blood
clots.

He still keeps missing that you are a trolling piece of senile ****, senile
Rodent!

--
JimK addressing senile Rodent Speed:
"I really feel the quality of your trolling has dropped in the last few
months..."
MID:

On Thu, 13 May 2021 20:50:51 -0600, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:

There is irony in any death, no matter what comorbitities were present,
was caused by covid. otoh, any death, no matter how closely occurring,
was not caused by covid vaccine.

There is RIDICULOUSNESS in your idiotic verbosity, you endlessly driveling,
bull****ting and gossiping senile moron!

On Fri, 14 May 2021 13:17:14 +1000, Joey, better known as cantankerous
trolling senile geezer Rodent Speed, wrote:

There is irony in any death, no matter what comorbitities were present,
was caused by covid.

That¢s bull****.

otoh, any death, no matter how closely occurring, was not caused by covid
vaccine.

That¢s bull**** too with CVTs and PVTs with the astrazeneca vaccine.

LOL Two demented senile morons at loggerheads! What a FREAK show! LOL

--
Marland answering senile Rodent's statement, "I don't leak":
"That¢s because so much **** and ****e emanates from your gob that there is
nothing left to exit normally, your arsehole has clammed shut through disuse
and the end of prick is only clear because you are such a ******."
Message-ID:

On Thu, 13 May 2021 22:45:23 -0600, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:


That¢s bull**** too with CVTs and PVTs with the astrazeneca vaccine.

Spoken like a true connoisseur of bull****.

LOL!!! Keep it going, you two senile blockheads!

LOL!!!

On 5/13/21 10:50 PM, rbowman wrote:
There is irony in any death, no matter what comorbitities were present, was caused by covid.Â* otoh, any death, no matter how closely occurring, was not caused by covid vaccine.


MSM's purple-haired fact checkers were hoping you wouldn't point that out.

On Wednesday, May 12, 2021 at 3:56:36 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Mon, 10 May 2021 08:06:45 -0700 (PDT), trader_4 posted for all of us to
digest...


It has been tested and approved under EUA. We have 600K Americans
dead, 3 mil dead worldwide, it is an emergency, you know.


And over 3000 deaths directly attributed to the vaccines.

--
Tekkie

That's not true either. The alleged 3000 deaths is from the VAERS database,
where anyone can enter anything that they think might be an adverse reaction
to a vaccine. An 85 year old person who is knocking on death's door can get
vaccinated, die from a heart attack two months later, and their spouse can
enter it as possibly related. That's the info you are using. And given the focus
on these new vaccines, that is exactly what you'd expect to happen, man
entries like that. I'm sure if you were involved with someone like that example,
you'd be entering it. That's all it takes.

On Wednesday, May 12, 2021 at 4:08:50 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Tue, 11 May 2021 00:31:44 -0400, posted for all of us to
digest...


How long do you think we should be under someone's thumb about this?
You ****ers had a year to flatten the curve. We still played the mask
game even when we saw open states doing better than closed states. Now
we have the vaccine and vaccinations are reaching the saturation
point. Anyone willing to get one has them.
What is the end game? At a certain point we have to stop thinking
there is one more thing we should do before our life can go back to
normal.
You can stay home wearing your mask and not answering the door but
most of us think, once you are vaccinated and you know anyone else who
wants to be is, it is time for Dr Darwin to take over.


The subject of acquired immunity never enters their mind. In fact, if you have
the antibodies you are discouraged from receiving the vaccine.

--
Tekkie

Of course those of us that believe in science, in masks, in social distancing,
in vaccines know about acquired immunity. We are not the ones in denial.
We know that while some number of Americans have some level of immunity,
it appears that immunity is not nearly as good as that provided by the Pfizer
and Moderna vaccines. And that the acquired immunity in a small percentage
of the population came at the price of 600K dead. And that level of immunity
in the population still allowed Covid to rage. It's finally coming down now with
a third of the population having full vaccine immunity, almost half having one shot.
The problem is the vaccination rate has dropped by 40%, due to BS from people
like you.

On Wednesday, May 12, 2021 at 4:11:11 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Tue, 11 May 2021 00:31:05 -0500, Jim Joyce posted for all of us to digest...

How did a novel coronavirus become a political thing?


By you and your ilk as proven incessantly in this group and belittling others
that don't share your views.

--
Tekkie

ROFL. Right, it was people like me that supported the armed protesters
that stormed the state capitol in Michigan, trying to intimidate the legislature
that was in session. That was a harbinger of things to come Jan 6, 2021.
It was people like me that sided with those protesters, mocked masks, held
death rallies.

Imagine if this had gone on in WWII. The Democrats bitching about everything
the govt did. WHAT? Ration my gas and bacon? They can't do that! The war
isn't that big of a deal. It's all an evil plan by Roosevelt and the Democrats to
to control what I eat and what I can do! Waaaaah!

On Wednesday, May 12, 2021 at 4:16:34 PM UTC-4, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 5/12/2021 3:56 PM, Tekkie� wrote:

On Mon, 10 May 2021 08:06:45 -0700 (PDT), trader_4 posted for all of us to
digest...


It has been tested and approved under EUA. We have 600K Americans
dead, 3 mil dead worldwide, it is an emergency, you know.


And over 3000 deaths directly attributed to the vaccines.

Do you have a cite for that? Sure, people died but they initially gave
the vaccine to seniors already in nursing homes. They were not linked
to the vaccine.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...se-events.html

Over 259 million doses of COVID-19 vaccines were administered in the
United States from December 14, 2020, through May 10, 2021. During this
time, VAERS received 4,434 reports of death (0.0017%) among people who
received a COVID-19 vaccine. CDC and FDA physicians review each case
report of death as soon as notified and CDC requests medical records to
further assess reports. A review of available clinical information,
including death certificates, autopsy, and medical records has not
established a causal link to COVID-19 vaccines. However, recent reports
indicate a plausible causal relationship between the J&J/Janssen
COVID-19 Vaccine and a rare and serious adverse event€”blood clots with
low platelets€”which has caused deaths.

Tucker Carlson is not a cite, he is a buffoon with a TV show.
https://tinyurl.com/4umvu8


Exactly. I just made a post about this nonsense too. Anyone can put an entry
into the VAERS database, indicating that they think something that happened
was due to an adverse reaction from a vaccine. An 85 year old with severe
diseases, knocking on deaths door, dies two months after the vaccine from a
heart attack, their spouse can put in an entry. And for sure there are plenty of
anti-vax loons out there that would do exactly that with anything they could
drum up. With all the focus on these vaccines, even normal people will be
putting anything they think could possibly be related in there. So with 150
mil vaccinated, we have 3000 of those. BFD. And Tucker Carlson knows this.
He's just another POS chasing ratings and the almighty dollar.

On Thursday, May 13, 2021 at 4:24:15 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Wed, 12 May 2021 16:16:28 -0400, Ed Pawlowski posted for all of us to
digest...

On 5/12/2021 3:56 PM, Tekkie? wrote:

On Mon, 10 May 2021 08:06:45 -0700 (PDT), trader_4 posted for all of us to
digest...


It has been tested and approved under EUA. We have 600K Americans
dead, 3 mil dead worldwide, it is an emergency, you know.


And over 3000 deaths directly attributed to the vaccines.


Do you have a cite for that? Sure, people died but they initially gave
the vaccine to seniors already in nursing homes. They were not linked
to the vaccine.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...se-events.html

Over 259 million doses of COVID-19 vaccines were administered in the
United States from December 14, 2020, through May 10, 2021. During this
time, VAERS received 4,434 reports of death (0.0017%) among people who
received a COVID-19 vaccine. CDC and FDA physicians review each case
report of death as soon as notified and CDC requests medical records to
further assess reports. A review of available clinical information,
including death certificates, autopsy, and medical records has not
established a causal link to COVID-19 vaccines. However, recent reports
indicate a plausible causal relationship between the J&J/Janssen
COVID-19 Vaccine and a rare and serious adverse event?blood clots with
low platelets?which has caused deaths.

Tucker Carlson is not a cite, he is a buffoon with a TV show.
https://tinyurl.com/4umvu8
https://www.fda.gov/drugs/questions-...ent-reporting-
system-faers/fda-adverse-event-reporting-system-faers-public-dashboard

I will not attempt to change your mind.

--
Tekkie

You don't even know what VAERS is and is not. Sadly Tucker Carlson does, but he
totally misrepresents it to stir up people like you in pursuit of ratings and lining
his pockets.

On Thursday, May 13, 2021 at 4:53:39 PM UTC-4, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 5/13/2021 4:24 PM, Tekkie� wrote:

On Wed, 12 May 2021 16:16:28 -0400, Ed Pawlowski posted for all of us to
digest...


On 5/12/2021 3:56 PM, Tekkie? wrote:

On Mon, 10 May 2021 08:06:45 -0700 (PDT), trader_4 posted for all of us to
digest...


It has been tested and approved under EUA. We have 600K Americans
dead, 3 mil dead worldwide, it is an emergency, you know.


And over 3000 deaths directly attributed to the vaccines.


Do you have a cite for that? Sure, people died but they initially gave
the vaccine to seniors already in nursing homes. They were not linked
to the vaccine.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...se-events.html

Over 259 million doses of COVID-19 vaccines were administered in the
United States from December 14, 2020, through May 10, 2021. During this
time, VAERS received 4,434 reports of death (0.0017%) among people who
received a COVID-19 vaccine. CDC and FDA physicians review each case
report of death as soon as notified and CDC requests medical records to
further assess reports. A review of available clinical information,
including death certificates, autopsy, and medical records has not
established a causal link to COVID-19 vaccines. However, recent reports
indicate a plausible causal relationship between the J&J/Janssen
COVID-19 Vaccine and a rare and serious adverse event?blood clots with
low platelets?which has caused deaths.

Tucker Carlson is not a cite, he is a buffoon with a TV show.
https://tinyurl.com/4umvu8

https://www.fda.gov/drugs/questions-...ent-reporting-
system-faers/fda-adverse-event-reporting-system-faers-public-dashboard

I will not attempt to change your mind.

Good, because the data does not show 3000 deaths from covid vaccine.

It does show adverse effects.

It doesn't even show that. It just shows entries where someone thinks something
*might be* an adverse effect due to a vaccine. With 150 mil vaccines given, all
the focus on these particular vaccines, where anyone, eg a spouse or relative
can make an entry, it's perhaps surprising that there are not more. And like Bob F
said, with 117 mil fully vaccinated now, look at all the lives saved. Folks like
Tekkie would apparently rather see this go on for another year, two years, with
1 mil more dead. Seems insane to me.




Also, note this statement in the link you
provided:
While the FAERS dashboard offers stakeholders many more ways of
searching for and organizing data on adverse events reported to the FDA
for many drug and biologic products, there remain limitations to the
data. For example, while FAERS contains reports on a particular drug or
biologic, this does not mean that the drug or biologic caused the
adverse event

"trader_4" wrote in message
...
On Wednesday, May 12, 2021 at 4:08:50 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Tue, 11 May 2021 00:31:44 -0400, posted for all of us
to
digest...


How long do you think we should be under someone's thumb about this?
You ****ers had a year to flatten the curve. We still played the mask
game even when we saw open states doing better than closed states. Now
we have the vaccine and vaccinations are reaching the saturation
point. Anyone willing to get one has them.
What is the end game? At a certain point we have to stop thinking
there is one more thing we should do before our life can go back to
normal.
You can stay home wearing your mask and not answering the door but
most of us think, once you are vaccinated and you know anyone else who
wants to be is, it is time for Dr Darwin to take over.


The subject of acquired immunity never enters their mind. In fact, if you
have
the antibodies you are discouraged from receiving the vaccine.

Of course those of us that believe in science, in masks, in social
distancing,
in vaccines know about acquired immunity. We are not the ones in denial.
We know that while some number of Americans have some level of immunity,
it appears that immunity is not nearly as good as that provided by the
Pfizer
and Moderna vaccines.

Yes.

And that the acquired immunity in a small percentage of the population

Its far from clear that that percentage is small.

came at the price of 600K dead. And that level of immunity
in the population still allowed Covid to rage. It's finally coming
down now with a third of the population having full vaccine
immunity, almost half having one shot. The problem is the
vaccination rate has dropped by 40%,

Yes.

due to BS from people like you.

More likely because those who want to be vaccinated have already been
vaccinated.

On Thu, 13 May 2021 15:37:11 -0700, Bob F posted for all of us to digest...


On 5/13/2021 11:47 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 5/13/2021 2:41 PM, Bob F wrote:
On 5/12/2021 1:16 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 5/12/2021 3:56 PM, Tekkie? wrote:

On Mon, 10 May 2021 08:06:45 -0700 (PDT), trader_4 posted for all of
us to
digest...


It has been tested and approved under EUA.* We have 600K Americans
dead, 3 mil dead worldwide, it is an emergency, you know.


And over 3000 deaths directly attributed to the vaccines.


And hundreds of thousands saved by the vaccines.

Tekkie wrote that, not me.

Yes, I know that. I cut out what followed to answer him. I don't get his
posts directly. That seemed the most appropriate way to indicate what I
was responding to.

Hey Bob, I cannot fathom what this has to do with a.h.r

--
Tekkie

On Fri, 14 May 2021 05:41:42 -0700 (PDT), trader_4 posted for all of us to
digest...


On Wednesday, May 12, 2021 at 3:56:36 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Mon, 10 May 2021 08:06:45 -0700 (PDT), trader_4 posted for all of us to
digest...


It has been tested and approved under EUA. We have 600K Americans
dead, 3 mil dead worldwide, it is an emergency, you know.


And over 3000 deaths directly attributed to the vaccines.

--
Tekkie

That's not true either. The alleged 3000 deaths is from the VAERS database,
where anyone can enter anything that they think might be an adverse reaction
to a vaccine. An 85 year old person who is knocking on death's door can get
vaccinated, die from a heart attack two months later, and their spouse can
enter it as possibly related. That's the info you are using. And given the focus
on these new vaccines, that is exactly what you'd expect to happen, man
entries like that. I'm sure if you were involved with someone like that example,
you'd be entering it. That's all it takes.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, first you quote gov't "facts" then you deny them. Depends on
the point one wants to make at a particular time.
I'm out for awhile till this silliness goes away, for which in your case will
be a loooong time.
--
Tekkie

On Fri, 14 May 2021 05:48:03 -0700 (PDT), trader_4 posted for all of us to
digest...


On Wednesday, May 12, 2021 at 4:08:50 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Tue, 11 May 2021 00:31:44 -0400, posted for all of us to
digest...


How long do you think we should be under someone's thumb about this?
You ****ers had a year to flatten the curve. We still played the mask
game even when we saw open states doing better than closed states. Now
we have the vaccine and vaccinations are reaching the saturation
point. Anyone willing to get one has them.
What is the end game? At a certain point we have to stop thinking
there is one more thing we should do before our life can go back to
normal.
You can stay home wearing your mask and not answering the door but
most of us think, once you are vaccinated and you know anyone else who
wants to be is, it is time for Dr Darwin to take over.


The subject of acquired immunity never enters their mind. In fact, if you have
the antibodies you are discouraged from receiving the vaccine.

--
Tekkie

Of course those of us that believe in science, in masks, in social distancing,
in vaccines know about acquired immunity. We are not the ones in denial.
We know that while some number of Americans have some level of immunity,
it appears that immunity is not nearly as good as that provided by the Pfizer
and Moderna vaccines. And that the acquired immunity in a small percentage
of the population came at the price of 600K dead. And that level of immunity
in the population still allowed Covid to rage. It's finally coming down now with
a third of the population having full vaccine immunity, almost half having one shot.
The problem is the vaccination rate has dropped by 40%, due to BS from people
like you.

Do you have this in cut & paste? It's never ending BS.

--
Tekkie

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On Fri, 14 May 2021 05:52:45 -0700 (PDT), trader_4 posted for all of us to
digest...


On Wednesday, May 12, 2021 at 4:11:11 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Tue, 11 May 2021 00:31:05 -0500, Jim Joyce posted for all of us to digest...

How did a novel coronavirus become a political thing?


By you and your ilk as proven incessantly in this group and belittling others
that don't share your views.

--
Tekkie

ROFL. Right, it was people like me that supported the armed protesters
that stormed the state capitol in Michigan, trying to intimidate the legislature
that was in session. That was a harbinger of things to come Jan 6, 2021.
It was people like me that sided with those protesters, mocked masks, held
death rallies.

Ya never give up, do you? They can burn down cities but your buddies they
trucked in got the bunch of protesters stirred up and they entered the house of
the people and an unarmed civilian got shot by an unnamed cop the gov't won't
reveal because he is a racist anti-white BLM member. If the cop fit the DEM
narrative you know it would be revealed faster than BS from Jen Psaki's mouth
and binder. If you shot a person YOU would be strung up by your ball sack - if
it exists. You know citizens used to wander freely through there because it is
the PEOPLES house?

Imagine if this had gone on in WWII. The Democrats bitching about everything
the govt did. WHAT? Ration my gas and bacon? They can't do that! The war
isn't that big of a deal. It's all an evil plan by Roosevelt and the Democrats to
to control what I eat and what I can do! Waaaaah!

Gee-this was WAR you can't define the difference in your rantings? The Dems
used to say: My body, My choice, but the Dems like you have now changed the
mantra: your body, Dems choice. Your brain, sit down, shut up, and follow
orders, don't look at things from another viewpoint, the DEM viewpoint is the
ONLY one allowed, and if you resist you will be trashed in the most vulgar way
the DEMS have on tap at the moment and will be searching for more.

If you ever did an impartial investigation of FDR did you would shudder.

The Asian concentration camps were light stuff from the DEMS & FDR.

How's Kammy Harris doing at the border? Oh wait, she hasn't been to the border!
She is deliberately disobeying the direct order of a sitting President. What do
you say about that?

How about those illegal border crossings and THE KIDS! The do-nothing Biden
admin has uh well, DONE NOTHING. What do you have to rant about that? Maybe you
could house some of them? Why don't you give CBP your addy so they can bring a
bunch of them? You can have your choice, illegal immigrants or illegal
immigrants with kids. What if they have...COVID? They're not tested so it's a
crapshoot because of overload and defunding. What you say; not here...

Bidens going to make you put a couple more solar panels on your house so the
KIDS can play their games and to support your electronic rantings.

Speaking of electronic rantings how did the Biden admin do in the cybersecurity
field? Seems to me that's a IIRC $5m fail. Yeah, he's protecting us all the way
to the poorhouse. Your food bill for the kids is going to increase dramatically
due to inflation. You better stock up on MRE's to hedge inflation. Remember the
Avocado shortage? You better stock up NOW!


--
Tekkie

On Fri, 14 May 2021 06:01:04 -0700 (PDT), trader_4 posted for all of us to
digest...


On Thursday, May 13, 2021 at 4:24:15 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Wed, 12 May 2021 16:16:28 -0400, Ed Pawlowski posted for all of us to
digest...

On 5/12/2021 3:56 PM, Tekkie? wrote:

On Mon, 10 May 2021 08:06:45 -0700 (PDT), trader_4 posted for all of us to
digest...


It has been tested and approved under EUA. We have 600K Americans
dead, 3 mil dead worldwide, it is an emergency, you know.


And over 3000 deaths directly attributed to the vaccines.


Do you have a cite for that? Sure, people died but they initially gave
the vaccine to seniors already in nursing homes. They were not linked
to the vaccine.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...se-events.html

Over 259 million doses of COVID-19 vaccines were administered in the
United States from December 14, 2020, through May 10, 2021. During this
time, VAERS received 4,434 reports of death (0.0017%) among people who
received a COVID-19 vaccine. CDC and FDA physicians review each case
report of death as soon as notified and CDC requests medical records to
further assess reports. A review of available clinical information,
including death certificates, autopsy, and medical records has not
established a causal link to COVID-19 vaccines. However, recent reports
indicate a plausible causal relationship between the J&J/Janssen
COVID-19 Vaccine and a rare and serious adverse event?blood clots with
low platelets?which has caused deaths.

Tucker Carlson is not a cite, he is a buffoon with a TV show.
https://tinyurl.com/4umvu8
https://www.fda.gov/drugs/questions-...ent-reporting-
system-faers/fda-adverse-event-reporting-system-faers-public-dashboard


Not like the MSM does? Your source of misinformation.

I will not attempt to change your mind.

--
Tekkie

You don't even know what VAERS is and is not. Sadly Tucker Carlson does, but he
totally misrepresents it to stir up people like you in pursuit of ratings and lining
his pockets.


Not like the MSM does? Your source of misinformation.
--
Tekkie

On Fri, 14 May 2021 05:57:29 -0700 (PDT), trader_4 posted for all of us to
digest...


On Wednesday, May 12, 2021 at 4:16:34 PM UTC-4, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 5/12/2021 3:56 PM, Tekkie? wrote:

On Mon, 10 May 2021 08:06:45 -0700 (PDT), trader_4 posted for all of us to
digest...


It has been tested and approved under EUA. We have 600K Americans
dead, 3 mil dead worldwide, it is an emergency, you know.


And over 3000 deaths directly attributed to the vaccines.

Do you have a cite for that? Sure, people died but they initially gave
the vaccine to seniors already in nursing homes. They were not linked
to the vaccine.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...se-events.html

Over 259 million doses of COVID-19 vaccines were administered in the
United States from December 14, 2020, through May 10, 2021. During this
time, VAERS received 4,434 reports of death (0.0017%) among people who
received a COVID-19 vaccine. CDC and FDA physicians review each case
report of death as soon as notified and CDC requests medical records to
further assess reports. A review of available clinical information,
including death certificates, autopsy, and medical records has not
established a causal link to COVID-19 vaccines. However, recent reports
indicate a plausible causal relationship between the J&J/Janssen
COVID-19 Vaccine and a rare and serious adverse event?blood clots with
low platelets?which has caused deaths.

Tucker Carlson is not a cite, he is a buffoon with a TV show.
https://tinyurl.com/4umvu8


Exactly. I just made a post about this nonsense too. Anyone can put an entry
into the VAERS database, indicating that they think something that happened
was due to an adverse reaction from a vaccine. An 85 year old with severe
diseases, knocking on deaths door, dies two months after the vaccine from a
heart attack, their spouse can put in an entry. And for sure there are plenty of
anti-vax loons out there that would do exactly that with anything they could
drum up. With all the focus on these vaccines, even normal people will be
putting anything they think could possibly be related in there. So with 150
mil vaccinated, we have 3000 of those. BFD. And Tucker Carlson knows this.
He's just another POS chasing ratings and the almighty dollar.

If it's true about anyone can enter any adverse reaction then how about
inputting that the vax metastasized your TDS and stole your reasoning. Do it
quick, before you forget with your TDS and all.

--
Tekkie

"Tekkie©" wrote in message
...

On Thu, 13 May 2021 15:37:11 -0700, Bob F posted for all of us to
digest...


On 5/13/2021 11:47 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 5/13/2021 2:41 PM, Bob F wrote:
On 5/12/2021 1:16 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 5/12/2021 3:56 PM, Tekkie? wrote:

On Mon, 10 May 2021 08:06:45 -0700 (PDT), trader_4 posted for all of
us to
digest...


It has been tested and approved under EUA. We have 600K Americans
dead, 3 mil dead worldwide, it is an emergency, you know.


And over 3000 deaths directly attributed to the vaccines.


And hundreds of thousands saved by the vaccines.

Tekkie wrote that, not me.

Yes, I know that. I cut out what followed to answer him. I don't get his
posts directly. That seemed the most appropriate way to indicate what I
was responding to.

Hey Bob, I cannot fathom what this has to do with a.h.r

Same with your ****.

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