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Default If you're not vaccinated, you're in more trouble than ever.



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On Sat, 8 May 2021 23:16:32 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

On 5/8/2021 8:37 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 8 May 2021 18:50:21 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

On 5/8/2021 4:12 PM,
wrote:
On Sat, 08 May 2021 14:22:58 -0400, micky
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**Apparently if vaccinated, there's almost no chance of dying even if
you're in the 6%, and on average you will get less sick, but I don't
know how much. I haven't seen details about that, except I just read
the
paragraph above.

When are you folks going to admit we have fallen for hysteria?

If you are just going to get a little cold that you get over why are
we still being silly about this? The vaccine is available for anyone
who wants it and if they are waiting for Jesus to tell them to get it
they will meet him soon enough .... or not. We still don't have any
good numbers about how many people have acquired immunity from having
a mild case and getting over it. It is very likely they never got
tested so they are not in the stats.
Fauci predicted that might be 80% of those infected.


So what is happening in India is just hysteria? Seems sensible to take
some precautions until we know what is happening. Seems to be on the
right path but could stall if people refuse vaccinations.

At a certain point we can let Darwin decide. The vaccine is out there,
they keep saying it works, at a certain point it is like wearing a
motorcycle helmet. If these people are willing to duck the protection
available, they deserve what they get.

The reality is the hysteria is not reflected in the results. Florida
is wide open with a very old population and a very high amount of
interstate visitors. We are not doing any worse than the states that
are younger, less tourism and strict lockdown policies.
It will be interesting to see what gets reported after all of this
shakes out and we can get an unbiased study about what worked and what
was just virtue signaling.
The only thing we know that worked was if you lived on an island with
a very compliant population and strict immigration policies you could
keep it out. This will be the real test of the vaccines since there
was virtually zero acquired immunity and the virus is still "novel" to
them.

India is FUD and has nothing to do with our situation.
What is the vaccination rate in India?
What are the living conditions?
Poverty rate?
Quality of medical care?


The situation in India show that what we did works. Florida has opened
up but they also took precautions and vaccinated a lot of people to get
a jump on it. As a country, we are far better off than India with
availability.

If you want Darin to take over why not stop all childhood vaccinations
and see of Polio, smallpox and the like comes back. Measles is
increasing now that there are a lot of anti-vaxxers.


How did you make the leap from me saying people who are not willing to
take the shot are on their own to making me an anti vaxxer?
It seems like reading is not your long suit.

Oh, you said it is a little cold. Shame about those 600,000 that did
not use tissues.


The world is a cold place and I am still not convinced
a lot of what we did had any major effect at all.


Yep, you actually are that stupid.

The places with the strongest mandates
seemed to have the worst results.


Because they have the worse results virus wise,
they choose to lockdown hardest, ****wit.

Rod and Trader jumping in with anecdotes about
islands and autocratic countries that were capable
of shutting down their borders and restrict in
country travel as an example is disingenuous too.


Shutting down state borders has nothing to
do with being and island and australia and
new zealand arent autocratic countrys, ****wit.

The US does not restrict movement between states


Yep, you lot actually are that stupid.

and we have never been able to.


That's a bare faced lie with the spanish flu.

Even when we tried last spring, people said "**** you, I'm going".


We had a few that stupid, they got arrested and charged.

There wasn't really anything the government could do about it.


More utterly mindless **** from you.

The government was also not able to affect any real quarantines,
not even in those socialist states with oppressive governments.


More utterly mindless **** from you.