On 8/3/2015 11:06 PM, Uncle Monster wrote:
On Monday, August 3, 2015 at 10:34:47 PM UTC-5, Muggles wrote:
On 8/3/2015 5:24 PM, Uncle Monster wrote:
On Monday, August 3, 2015 at 3:48:02 PM UTC-5, Muggles wrote:
On 8/3/2015 3:41 PM, Uncle Monster wrote:
On Monday, August 3, 2015 at 12:52:56 PM UTC-5, Muggles wrote:
On 8/3/2015 11:25 AM, Oren wrote:
On Mon, 3 Aug 2015 10:07:16 -0500, Muggles wrote:

All this talk about toilets reminds me of the issue I had with mine and
that calcium stuff on it. Well, the update is I finally had time to do
another treatment with the muriatic acid on the bottom where that water
flow jet is all. It was clogged with calcium buildup and for a long
time was difficult to get to flush. I'd have to plunge it every time,
just about because the water wouldn't swirl hardly with nothing in it,
let alone if you came to visit and dropped some ready mix there. HAHA!

I left the acid in the bottom and kept going back and scrubbing with a
small brush to remove what I could and the little bit of water left
there got so dark after a couple of hours I couldn't tell if it had
removed all of it or not. So, I refilled the water tank and flushed
after one last scrub and it was like night and day difference. The
bottom water jet had cleared of the calcium buildup and the toilet now
flushes great! I'm still going to have to do one last acid treatment
because there's still a little bit of the calcium left on the porcelain,
but now I won't have to replace the toilet because it flushes now.

Thanks for all the advice from everyone on how to use this muriatic acid
stuff. I was a bit cautious about using acid because I'd never used it
before, but with everyone's advice it encouraged me to go ahead and give
it a try. ?(???)?

Now use a funnel, place into to the overflow tube in the tank. Pour a
quart of MA down (no need to drain the tank or bowl) ... let that sit
a couple of hours to clear the cooties out of the bowl rim and jets.

Turn on the fan and close the door. If you get fizzing in the bowl, do
not worry - it will stop - it's just calcium in the hard water. Soft
water will not fizz like hard water.



hmm I thought I read somewhere that sometimes pouring the MA down the
tank overflow tube can sometimes eat away as the gaskets, or am I
thinking of something else? That's one reason I've hesitated to do that
with the overflow tube.

The rim jets are clear as far as what I can see, but I understand what
you mean by cleaning out the cooties from the inside of the jets. I
thought about putting a funnel into the bottom jet so I could get the MA
into the hole and clean it out better that way. One other thing is that
my bathroom fan has quit working recently and needs replacing. It's on
the TO DO list, and there's no window in that bathroom to vent.

--
Maggie

The fans are usually very easy to service and repair. The motors are easy to change and the life of the original motor can often be extended by removing it from the fan housing and injecting oil into the felt oil reservoirs in the bearing housings on either end of the motor. If you could post a picture of the fan you have without the plastic cover, I could tell much more about the one you have and how to repair it. Brand name helps too. (€¢ —¡€¢)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GwduJeGiTnM

[8~{} Uncle Fan Monster


hmmm That might be tricky because I had to cover it with some
insulation (temporarily) because heat was coming into the bathroom from
the attic from the thing. I think the last time I turned it on, which
was when I noticed it wasn't working, that maybe something didn't close
and that's why so much attic hot air is getting into the bathroom. Now
that it's covered, the bathroom is much cooler. I was thinking of
waiting until the weather cools off a bit more before I try to get it
fixed because the attic is just so hot right now.

--
Maggie

It's unusual that hot air would be coming in through the exhaust fan because there is supposed to be an airflow operated damper that will close when the fan is turned off. The excess heat coming into the fan housing could be responsible for drying out the oiled felt in the bearing housings causing the fan to seize up. If you do tinker with the fan, make sure that damper is working. It can round or rectangular depending on the model. ^_^

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ardjP8Qso8

[8~{} Uncle Hot Monster


hmm The one in my bathroom kind of looks like this one:
http://www.homedepot.com/p/Broan-QTX...10HL/202079310

It has a light in the middle and on either side it has louvers. When
it's turned on it runs the fan, light, and a heater at the same time.
The switch on the wall is a dial that I turn with a timer for goes up to
30 mins. I can still turn it on, and the light works, but the fan
doesn't run.

--
Maggie

If you look at the round black part, you'll see a flap inside the opening. That's the damper which is supposed to be closed when the fan isn't running to prevent back-drafts. Those fans are very easy to repair and you may look up your manufacturer and model number on YouTube to see if someone has a how to repair video on yours or a model close to it. \ (€¢—¡€¢) /

[8~{} Uncle Repair Monster


ok That damper you describe makes sense.

--
Maggie

On 8/3/2015 11:08 PM, J Burns wrote:
On 7/26/15 11:06 AM, Muggles wrote:
On 7/26/2015 7:51 AM, Stormin Mormon wrote:


One of the limits of the typed word. Some times
it seems as clear as can be (to me) but doesn't
seem as clear to others. Thanks for asking, and
giving me the chance to give some more detail.

A service I don't offer to everone, seeing as
how Ashton tells me I'm a bigot.

Now-a-days if you aren't politically correct that means you've passed go
and automatically proceed to jail where they print "bigot" on your
orange uniform.


That would certainly be bigotry! All these years, I didn't know the
meaning of the word.

It goes back to 1450, when people learned that a German blacksmith had
invented the internet. It was text only, but they knew it was going to
be very big someday. There was no IPO, so they sued.

By 1600, it was very popular. Through the medium, liberal religious
ideas had gained enough attention to be very controversial. The French
coined the term "bigot" for a person with an obstinate belief in the
superiority of his own opinions and an intolerance of the opinions of
others.

Confidentially, I think WD-40 is the greatest product on the market
today. It does everything better than anything else. I wouldn't dare
say so here because you-know-who is a bigot.


What do you think of silicon spray? Is it politically correct to use
that, or is WD-40 more pc?

--
Maggie

On 8/4/2015 2:20 AM, J Burns wrote:
On 7/26/15 12:48 PM, Muggles wrote:
On 7/26/2015 11:25 AM, Oren wrote:
On Sat, 25 Jul 2015 22:25:41 -0500, Muggles wrote:


So, if I buy a container of muriatic acid, I have the use the entire
container at one time? I can't use just part of it now and the rest at
a later date?

Generally, you buy two gallon jugs in one box. The containers off gas
through the plastic. Do not store them in a tool shed -- tools and
equipment can rust. Do not store near chlorine either. I keep mine
outside near the pool area and store them in a plastic 5-gallon homer
bucket. If you are worried about children getting into the acid, you
are having luck with CLR, you might stick with that. The ZEP acid
product I mentioned comes in 32/64 OZ. Have not used it as I use MA,
so be sure to read and follow instructions.

You can find _Heinz® All Natural Cleaning Vinegar_ at the grocery
gettin'' store - 6% acidity.

http://www.heinzvinegar.com/products-cleaning-vinegar.aspx


Actually, I almost bought some 6% acidity cleaning vinegar at Walmart
yesterday, but thought I'd just try the next option which was the clr.

I think I'll drain the toilet bowl of most of the water and leave some
in the bottom where the S trap is and then use the rest of the clr a bit
more concentrated so it'll get the calcium that's still there at the
bottom. If I can't get it all with the clr that I have left, do you
think it's worth getting the next more stronger solution, or just try
more clr until it all is dissolved? I'm actually surprised that the clr
worked as well as it did. There's zero calcium deposits on the bowl
sides now when before it was so thick I had to chip it off and then only
could get a little bit to come off.

I think 6% is a marketing gimmick. I think the standard 5% is so the
consumer will get predictable results in recipes like salad dressing. If
you really want to clean, it's sold as vinegar in 20% jugs and as acetic
acid up to 99.85%.

When I saw the 6% cleaning vinegar I wondered how much difference it
would really make between the food grade 5% vinegar, and I didn't think
it would make that much difference, so I just skipped up to the muriatic
acid.

Bleach used to be sold at 5.25% for a different reason. Eventually it
turns to salt in the jug, and a stronger solution would deteriorate
faster. Now they are able to manufacture it with less impurities, and an
8.25% solution may have a longer shelf life than 5.25% used to have. The
stronger solution reduces shipping costs.



--
Maggie

On Tuesday, August 4, 2015 at 10:17:36 AM UTC-5, Muggles wrote:
On 8/3/2015 11:08 PM, J Burns wrote:
On 7/26/15 11:06 AM, Muggles wrote:
On 7/26/2015 7:51 AM, Stormin Mormon wrote:


One of the limits of the typed word. Some times
it seems as clear as can be (to me) but doesn't
seem as clear to others. Thanks for asking, and
giving me the chance to give some more detail.

A service I don't offer to everone, seeing as
how Ashton tells me I'm a bigot.

Now-a-days if you aren't politically correct that means you've passed go
and automatically proceed to jail where they print "bigot" on your
orange uniform.


That would certainly be bigotry! All these years, I didn't know the
meaning of the word.

It goes back to 1450, when people learned that a German blacksmith had
invented the internet. It was text only, but they knew it was going to
be very big someday. There was no IPO, so they sued.

By 1600, it was very popular. Through the medium, liberal religious
ideas had gained enough attention to be very controversial. The French
coined the term "bigot" for a person with an obstinate belief in the
superiority of his own opinions and an intolerance of the opinions of
others.

Confidentially, I think WD-40 is the greatest product on the market
today. It does everything better than anything else. I wouldn't dare
say so here because you-know-who is a bigot.


What do you think of silicon spray? Is it politically correct to use
that, or is WD-40 more pc?

--
Maggie

Silicon spray is used to remove paint and rust. Silicon is sand and the sprayer for it is called a sandblaster. "Silicone spray" on the other hand is used a a mold release or lubricant. WD-40 was developed to displace moisture and protect parts of a military missile system thus the term WD means "Water Displacer" and 40 was the number of tries it took to arrive at the final formulation. \ (€¢—¡€¢) /

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WD-40

[8~{} Uncle Rocket Monster

On 8/4/2015 6:19 AM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
On 8/3/2015 11:25 PM, Muggles wrote:
On 8/3/2015 9:49 PM, J Burns wrote:

At one time, muriatic acid was made from brine. Maybe it still is.
Muriatic acid is sold for cleaning, where impurities won't hurt. In the
case of Zep, the "impurities", such as surfactants, help it clean.

I don't keep hydrochloric acid. If I need it to clean, I use vinegar
and salt. That produces muriatic acid that's mostly "impurities."

ahh ok ... I didn't know that. Thanks!


Vinegar is a mild acid, and salt does contain
chlorine. To mix them and call it muriatic
acid, I doubt that is the case.

I'd go for muriatic or hydrochloric acid, rather
than the vinegar mix, for my own uses.


I've learned a lot about toilet cleaning acid on this group for sure!

--
Maggie

On 8/4/2015 6:21 AM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
On 8/4/2015 12:08 AM, J Burns wrote:
On 7/26/15 11:06 AM, Muggles wrote:
On 7/26/2015 7:51 AM, Stormin Mormon wrote:


One of the limits of the typed word. Some times
it seems as clear as can be (to me) but doesn't
seem as clear to others. Thanks for asking, and
giving me the chance to give some more detail.

A service I don't offer to everone, seeing as
how Ashton tells me I'm a bigot.

Now-a-days if you aren't politically correct that means you've passed go
and automatically proceed to jail where they print "bigot" on your
orange uniform.


That would certainly be bigotry! All these years, I didn't know the
meaning of the word.

It goes back to 1450, when people learned that a German blacksmith had
invented the internet. It was text only, but they knew it was going to
be very big someday. There was no IPO, so they sued.

By 1600, it was very popular. Through the medium, liberal religious
ideas had gained enough attention to be very controversial. The French
coined the term "bigot" for a person with an obstinate belief in the
superiority of his own opinions and an intolerance of the opinions of
others.

Confidentially, I think WD-40 is the greatest product on the market
today. It does everything better than anything else. I wouldn't dare
say so here because you-know-who is a bigot.


I just used some WTF-40, and so I really don't care. But,
I still totally hate you and all you stand for.


Would you feel the same way if he was sitting for something instead of
standing for it?

--
Maggie

On 8/4/2015 10:49 AM, Uncle Monster wrote:
On Tuesday, August 4, 2015 at 10:17:36 AM UTC-5, Muggles wrote:
On 8/3/2015 11:08 PM, J Burns wrote:
On 7/26/15 11:06 AM, Muggles wrote:
On 7/26/2015 7:51 AM, Stormin Mormon wrote:


One of the limits of the typed word. Some times
it seems as clear as can be (to me) but doesn't
seem as clear to others. Thanks for asking, and
giving me the chance to give some more detail.

A service I don't offer to everone, seeing as
how Ashton tells me I'm a bigot.

Now-a-days if you aren't politically correct that means you've passed go
and automatically proceed to jail where they print "bigot" on your
orange uniform.


That would certainly be bigotry! All these years, I didn't know the
meaning of the word.

It goes back to 1450, when people learned that a German blacksmith had
invented the internet. It was text only, but they knew it was going to
be very big someday. There was no IPO, so they sued.

By 1600, it was very popular. Through the medium, liberal religious
ideas had gained enough attention to be very controversial. The French
coined the term "bigot" for a person with an obstinate belief in the
superiority of his own opinions and an intolerance of the opinions of
others.

Confidentially, I think WD-40 is the greatest product on the market
today. It does everything better than anything else. I wouldn't dare
say so here because you-know-who is a bigot.


What do you think of silicon spray? Is it politically correct to use
that, or is WD-40 more pc?

--
Maggie

Silicon spray is used to remove paint and rust. Silicon is sand and the sprayer for it is called a sandblaster. "Silicone spray" on the other hand is used a a mold release or lubricant. WD-40 was developed to displace moisture and protect parts of a military missile system thus the term WD means "Water Displacer" and 40 was the number of tries it took to arrive at the final formulation. \ (€¢—¡€¢) /

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WD-40

[8~{} Uncle Rocket Monster


I never know which one to use when I want to oil my household
oscillating fan motors. WD-40?

--
Maggie

On 8/4/2015 8:05 AM, (PeteCresswell) wrote:
Per Muggles:
I gave up drinking pop some years ago, but on a rare day I might have me
a dr. pepper. Last bone density test I had my bones were in the way
above average for being healthy, so I guess laying off the pop helps.

IMHO, anybody who reads the book "Fat Chance" (Robert Lustig, Professor
of Pediatrics in the Division of Endocrinology at University of
California, San Francisco per http://profiles.ucsf.edu/robert.lustig and
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Lustig) will never drink another
sugar-sweetened soda.


These days I look at food like this: sugar, fat, fat + sugar, protein +
fat, vitamins/minerals, calcium........ ACK!!!!!

Why can't I just eat something because it tastes good any more??

--
Maggie

On 8/4/2015 12:15 PM, Muggles wrote:
On 8/4/2015 10:49 AM, Uncle Monster wrote:
On Tuesday, August 4, 2015 at 10:17:36 AM UTC-5, Muggles wrote:
On 8/3/2015 11:08 PM, J Burns wrote:
On 7/26/15 11:06 AM, Muggles wrote:
On 7/26/2015 7:51 AM, Stormin Mormon wrote:


One of the limits of the typed word. Some times
it seems as clear as can be (to me) but doesn't
seem as clear to others. Thanks for asking, and
giving me the chance to give some more detail.

A service I don't offer to everone, seeing as
how Ashton tells me I'm a bigot.

Now-a-days if you aren't politically correct that means you've passed go
and automatically proceed to jail where they print "bigot" on your
orange uniform.


That would certainly be bigotry! All these years, I didn't know the
meaning of the word.

It goes back to 1450, when people learned that a German blacksmith had
invented the internet. It was text only, but they knew it was going to
be very big someday. There was no IPO, so they sued.

By 1600, it was very popular. Through the medium, liberal religious
ideas had gained enough attention to be very controversial. The French
coined the term "bigot" for a person with an obstinate belief in the
superiority of his own opinions and an intolerance of the opinions of
others.

Confidentially, I think WD-40 is the greatest product on the market
today. It does everything better than anything else. I wouldn't dare
say so here because you-know-who is a bigot.


What do you think of silicon spray? Is it politically correct to use
that, or is WD-40 more pc?

--
Maggie

Silicon spray is used to remove paint and rust. Silicon is sand and the sprayer for it is called a sandblaster. "Silicone spray" on the other hand is used a a mold release or lubricant. WD-40 was developed to displace moisture and protect parts of a military missile system thus the term WD means "Water Displacer" and 40 was the number of tries it took to arrive at the final formulation. \ (€¢—¡€¢) /

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WD-40

[8~{} Uncle Rocket Monster


I never know which one to use when I want to oil my household
oscillating fan motors. WD-40?

Use oil, like a 3 in 1 from the hardware store, WD40 is not a lubricant.

--
Froz...

Quando omni flunkus, moritati

Per Uncle Monster:
Years ago I stopped drinking sugar sweetened soft drinks, sugar sweetened ice tea
and sugar sweetened beverages of any kind. My weight dropped 100lbs in 2 months

Working with bond traders (high-stress, demanding job - some had cases
of Coke under their desks) for about 10 years, I saw the process you
described happen in reverse..... fit-looking young people transformed
into waddling semi-cripples whose thighs rubbed when they walked.

I tend to look down of food faddists, but think the
sugar-becoming-integrated-into-the-American-diet thing is for real.
--
Pete Cresswell

J Burns posted for all of us...



On 8/4/15 7:19 AM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
On 8/3/2015 11:25 PM, Muggles wrote:
On 8/3/2015 9:49 PM, J Burns wrote:

At one time, muriatic acid was made from brine. Maybe it still is.
Muriatic acid is sold for cleaning, where impurities won't hurt. In the
case of Zep, the "impurities", such as surfactants, help it clean.

I don't keep hydrochloric acid. If I need it to clean, I use vinegar
and salt. That produces muriatic acid that's mostly "impurities."

ahh ok ... I didn't know that. Thanks!


Vinegar is a mild acid, and salt does contain
chlorine. To mix them and call it muriatic
acid, I doubt that is the case.

I'd go for muriatic or hydrochloric acid, rather
than the vinegar mix, for my own uses.


Acetic acid and sodium chloride react to make sodium acetate and
hydrogen chloride. In other words, hydrochloric acid with an impurity. I
like to heat it for bigots to take a whiff.

I can still learn something every day. The failure is in the application...

--
Tekkie *Please post a follow-up*

On 8/4/2015 2:56 PM, (PeteCresswell) wrote:
Per Uncle Monster:
Years ago I stopped drinking sugar sweetened soft drinks, sugar sweetened ice tea
and sugar sweetened beverages of any kind. My weight dropped 100lbs in 2 months

Working with bond traders (high-stress, demanding job - some had cases
of Coke under their desks) for about 10 years, I saw the process you
described happen in reverse..... fit-looking young people transformed
into waddling semi-cripples whose thighs rubbed when they walked.

I tend to look down of food faddists, but think the
sugar-becoming-integrated-into-the-American-diet thing is for real.


It's hard to find many foods that don't have some sort of sugar in them
unless it's just the raw product that you prepare from scratch.

--
Maggie

On Tuesday, August 4, 2015 at 11:15:58 AM UTC-5, Muggles wrote:
On 8/4/2015 10:49 AM, Uncle Monster wrote:
On Tuesday, August 4, 2015 at 10:17:36 AM UTC-5, Muggles wrote:
On 8/3/2015 11:08 PM, J Burns wrote:
On 7/26/15 11:06 AM, Muggles wrote:
On 7/26/2015 7:51 AM, Stormin Mormon wrote:


One of the limits of the typed word. Some times
it seems as clear as can be (to me) but doesn't
seem as clear to others. Thanks for asking, and
giving me the chance to give some more detail.

A service I don't offer to everone, seeing as
how Ashton tells me I'm a bigot.

Now-a-days if you aren't politically correct that means you've passed go
and automatically proceed to jail where they print "bigot" on your
orange uniform.


That would certainly be bigotry! All these years, I didn't know the
meaning of the word.

It goes back to 1450, when people learned that a German blacksmith had
invented the internet. It was text only, but they knew it was going to
be very big someday. There was no IPO, so they sued.

By 1600, it was very popular. Through the medium, liberal religious
ideas had gained enough attention to be very controversial. The French
coined the term "bigot" for a person with an obstinate belief in the
superiority of his own opinions and an intolerance of the opinions of
others.

Confidentially, I think WD-40 is the greatest product on the market
today. It does everything better than anything else. I wouldn't dare
say so here because you-know-who is a bigot.


What do you think of silicon spray? Is it politically correct to use
that, or is WD-40 more pc?

--
Maggie

Silicon spray is used to remove paint and rust. Silicon is sand and the sprayer for it is called a sandblaster. "Silicone spray" on the other hand is used a a mold release or lubricant. WD-40 was developed to displace moisture and protect parts of a military missile system thus the term WD means "Water Displacer" and 40 was the number of tries it took to arrive at the final formulation. \ (€¢—¡€¢) /

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WD-40

[8~{} Uncle Rocket Monster


I never know which one to use when I want to oil my household
oscillating fan motors. WD-40?

--
Maggie

I'd use 3-in-One Oil. ( ͡ᵔ ͜ʖ ͡ᵔ )

[8~{} Uncle Oil Monster

On Tuesday, August 4, 2015 at 2:56:52 PM UTC-5, (PeteCresswell) wrote:
Per Uncle Monster:
Years ago I stopped drinking sugar sweetened soft drinks, sugar sweetened ice tea
and sugar sweetened beverages of any kind. My weight dropped 100lbs in 2 months

Working with bond traders (high-stress, demanding job - some had cases
of Coke under their desks) for about 10 years, I saw the process you
described happen in reverse..... fit-looking young people transformed
into waddling semi-cripples whose thighs rubbed when they walked.

I tend to look down of food faddists, but think the
sugar-becoming-integrated-into-the-American-diet thing is for real.
--
Pete Cresswell

I was actually very active doing things like climbing ladders, crawling and carrying heavy items. I believe that's why I have no hanging skin. The problem with being so active was that I sweat like a thunderstorm and needed a lot of fluid which often turned out to be high fructose corn syrup sweetened Mountain Dew soft drinks. I switched to the diet version and the weight melted off but now it turns out I was drinking poison according to many reports. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[8~{} Uncle Skinny Monster

On 8/4/2015 4:43 PM, Uncle Monster wrote:
On Tuesday, August 4, 2015 at 11:15:58 AM UTC-5, Muggles wrote:
On 8/4/2015 10:49 AM, Uncle Monster wrote:
On Tuesday, August 4, 2015 at 10:17:36 AM UTC-5, Muggles wrote:
On 8/3/2015 11:08 PM, J Burns wrote:
On 7/26/15 11:06 AM, Muggles wrote:
On 7/26/2015 7:51 AM, Stormin Mormon wrote:


One of the limits of the typed word. Some times
it seems as clear as can be (to me) but doesn't
seem as clear to others. Thanks for asking, and
giving me the chance to give some more detail.

A service I don't offer to everone, seeing as
how Ashton tells me I'm a bigot.

Now-a-days if you aren't politically correct that means you've passed go
and automatically proceed to jail where they print "bigot" on your
orange uniform.


That would certainly be bigotry! All these years, I didn't know the
meaning of the word.

It goes back to 1450, when people learned that a German blacksmith had
invented the internet. It was text only, but they knew it was going to
be very big someday. There was no IPO, so they sued.

By 1600, it was very popular. Through the medium, liberal religious
ideas had gained enough attention to be very controversial. The French
coined the term "bigot" for a person with an obstinate belief in the
superiority of his own opinions and an intolerance of the opinions of
others.

Confidentially, I think WD-40 is the greatest product on the market
today. It does everything better than anything else. I wouldn't dare
say so here because you-know-who is a bigot.


What do you think of silicon spray? Is it politically correct to use
that, or is WD-40 more pc?

--
Maggie

Silicon spray is used to remove paint and rust. Silicon is sand and the sprayer for it is called a sandblaster. "Silicone spray" on the other hand is used a a mold release or lubricant. WD-40 was developed to displace moisture and protect parts of a military missile system thus the term WD means "Water Displacer" and 40 was the number of tries it took to arrive at the final formulation. \ (€¢—¡€¢) /

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WD-40

[8~{} Uncle Rocket Monster


I never know which one to use when I want to oil my household
oscillating fan motors. WD-40?

--
Maggie

I'd use 3-in-One Oil. ( ͡ᵔ ͜ʖ ͡ᵔ )

[8~{} Uncle Oil Monster


oh, I got some of that, too. Thanks for the info.

--
Maggie

On 8/4/15 12:15 PM, Muggles wrote:
On 8/4/2015 10:49 AM, Uncle Monster wrote:
On Tuesday, August 4, 2015 at 10:17:36 AM UTC-5, Muggles wrote:
On 8/3/2015 11:08 PM, J Burns wrote:
On 7/26/15 11:06 AM, Muggles wrote:
On 7/26/2015 7:51 AM, Stormin Mormon wrote:


One of the limits of the typed word. Some times
it seems as clear as can be (to me) but doesn't
seem as clear to others. Thanks for asking, and
giving me the chance to give some more detail.

A service I don't offer to everone, seeing as
how Ashton tells me I'm a bigot.

Now-a-days if you aren't politically correct that means you've passed go
and automatically proceed to jail where they print "bigot" on your
orange uniform.


That would certainly be bigotry! All these years, I didn't know the
meaning of the word.

It goes back to 1450, when people learned that a German blacksmith had
invented the internet. It was text only, but they knew it was going to
be very big someday. There was no IPO, so they sued.

By 1600, it was very popular. Through the medium, liberal religious
ideas had gained enough attention to be very controversial. The French
coined the term "bigot" for a person with an obstinate belief in the
superiority of his own opinions and an intolerance of the opinions of
others.

Confidentially, I think WD-40 is the greatest product on the market
today. It does everything better than anything else. I wouldn't dare
say so here because you-know-who is a bigot.


What do you think of silicon spray? Is it politically correct to use
that, or is WD-40 more pc?

--
Maggie

Silicon spray is used to remove paint and rust. Silicon is sand and the sprayer for it is called a sandblaster. "Silicone spray" on the other hand is used a a mold release or lubricant. WD-40 was developed to displace moisture and protect parts of a military missile system thus the term WD means "Water Displacer" and 40 was the number of tries it took to arrive at the final formulation. \ (€¢—¡€¢) /

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WD-40

[8~{} Uncle Rocket Monster


I never know which one to use when I want to oil my household
oscillating fan motors. WD-40?

I used WD-40 to flush out the bearings of an old 16" table fan. I
allowed time for evaporation, then oiled with sewing-machine oil,
similar to 3-in-1.

I figured the test was whether it would start when I pressed Low. It
would do so unless I let it sit a week. You-know-who recommended 30W
motor oil. I thought that was much too viscous for a table fan, so I
reapplied sewing-machine oil. The result was the same.

I applied motor oil from an ancient 1/2-ounce oiler. I thought I had
20W in there, but maybe it was 30W. It worked, but I'm not going to
tell you-know-who. The only thing worse than a bigot is a bigot who
knows he has been proved correct!

On 8/4/15 4:18 PM, Tekkie® wrote:
J Burns posted for all of us...



On 8/4/15 7:19 AM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
On 8/3/2015 11:25 PM, Muggles wrote:
On 8/3/2015 9:49 PM, J Burns wrote:

At one time, muriatic acid was made from brine. Maybe it still is.
Muriatic acid is sold for cleaning, where impurities won't hurt. In the
case of Zep, the "impurities", such as surfactants, help it clean.

I don't keep hydrochloric acid. If I need it to clean, I use vinegar
and salt. That produces muriatic acid that's mostly "impurities."

ahh ok ... I didn't know that. Thanks!


Vinegar is a mild acid, and salt does contain
chlorine. To mix them and call it muriatic
acid, I doubt that is the case.

I'd go for muriatic or hydrochloric acid, rather
than the vinegar mix, for my own uses.


Acetic acid and sodium chloride react to make sodium acetate and
hydrogen chloride. In other words, hydrochloric acid with an impurity. I
like to heat it for bigots to take a whiff.

I can still learn something every day. The failure is in the application...

The sodium acetate acts as a buffer. That may be a reason people don't
get blisters on their lips when they put vinegar and salt on french fries.

To get really exciting hydrochloric acid, I'd have to distill it. Not
going to do it. Wouldn't be prudent. I dismantled my still in fifth
grade and never tried it again. When liquor is much above 100 proof, the
flammability can be frightening to a child of delicate sensibilities.

On 8/4/2015 5:43 PM, Uncle Monster wrote:
On Tuesday, August 4, 2015 at 11:15:58 AM UTC-5, Muggles wrote:
On 8/4/2015 10:49 AM, Uncle Monster wrote:
On Tuesday, August 4, 2015 at 10:17:36 AM UTC-5, Muggles wrote:
On 8/3/2015 11:08 PM, J Burns wrote:
On 7/26/15 11:06 AM, Muggles wrote:
On 7/26/2015 7:51 AM, Stormin Mormon wrote:


One of the limits of the typed word. Some times
it seems as clear as can be (to me) but doesn't
seem as clear to others. Thanks for asking, and
giving me the chance to give some more detail.

A service I don't offer to everone, seeing as
how Ashton tells me I'm a bigot.

Now-a-days if you aren't politically correct that means you've passed go
and automatically proceed to jail where they print "bigot" on your
orange uniform.


That would certainly be bigotry! All these years, I didn't know the
meaning of the word.

It goes back to 1450, when people learned that a German blacksmith had
invented the internet. It was text only, but they knew it was going to
be very big someday. There was no IPO, so they sued.

By 1600, it was very popular. Through the medium, liberal religious
ideas had gained enough attention to be very controversial. The French
coined the term "bigot" for a person with an obstinate belief in the
superiority of his own opinions and an intolerance of the opinions of
others.

Confidentially, I think WD-40 is the greatest product on the market
today. It does everything better than anything else. I wouldn't dare
say so here because you-know-who is a bigot.


What do you think of silicon spray? Is it politically correct to use
that, or is WD-40 more pc?

--
Maggie

Silicon spray is used to remove paint and rust. Silicon is sand and the sprayer for it is called a sandblaster. "Silicone spray" on the other hand is used a a mold release or lubricant. WD-40 was developed to displace moisture and protect parts of a military missile system thus the term WD means "Water Displacer" and 40 was the number of tries it took to arrive at the final formulation. \ (€¢—¡€¢) /

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WD-40

[8~{} Uncle Rocket Monster


I never know which one to use when I want to oil my household
oscillating fan motors. WD-40?


I'd use 3-in-One Oil. ( ͡ᵔ ͜ʖ ͡ᵔ )

I think Jenn might have finally plonked me for real, oh well I gave the
same advice, and you get the credit a couple hours later.

--
Froz...

Quando omni flunkus, moritati

On 8/4/15 11:15 AM, Uncle Monster wrote:

I recall a study that showed that the
consumption of water can be deadly. Researchers took convict
volunteers, pumped 10 gallons of water into them and they died.

At the station in Ketchikan in the 1970s, there wasn't much to do in bad
weather but pass the time at the club. It would be easy to get into the
habit of drinking too much beer. I began ordering a beer and a pitcher
of water. I discovered that water could make me feel intoxicated.

Later, I read that when somebody passes out from too much beer, the
water in his system may be a greater danger than the alcohol.

For decades, there have been fashionable recommendations to drink so
many liters of water a day. To the contrary, I've read that it's better
to ignore that and drink when you're thirsty because too much water
plays havoc on the endocrine system.

There have also been lots of fashionable recommendations to avoid salt.
Inadequate salt can cause healthy military personnel to drop dead. I
think brain swelling is a common cause. Before I learned to be sure to
get enough salt, I could get pretty sick when summer came. A teaspoon
of salt was a quick cure.

On 8/4/2015 11:16 AM, Muggles wrote:
On 8/3/2015 11:06 PM, Uncle Monster wrote:
On Monday, August 3, 2015 at 10:34:47 PM UTC-5, Muggles wrote:
On 8/3/2015 5:24 PM, Uncle Monster wrote:
On Monday, August 3, 2015 at 3:48:02 PM UTC-5, Muggles wrote:
On 8/3/2015 3:41 PM, Uncle Monster wrote:
On Monday, August 3, 2015 at 12:52:56 PM UTC-5, Muggles wrote:
On 8/3/2015 11:25 AM, Oren wrote:
On Mon, 3 Aug 2015 10:07:16 -0500, Muggles wrote:

All this talk about toilets reminds me of the issue I had with mine and
that calcium stuff on it. Well, the update is I finally had time to do
another treatment with the muriatic acid on the bottom where that water
flow jet is all. It was clogged with calcium buildup and for a long
time was difficult to get to flush. I'd have to plunge it every time,
just about because the water wouldn't swirl hardly with nothing in it,
let alone if you came to visit and dropped some ready mix there. HAHA!

I left the acid in the bottom and kept going back and scrubbing with a
small brush to remove what I could and the little bit of water left
there got so dark after a couple of hours I couldn't tell if it had
removed all of it or not. So, I refilled the water tank and flushed
after one last scrub and it was like night and day difference. The
bottom water jet had cleared of the calcium buildup and the toilet now
flushes great! I'm still going to have to do one last acid treatment
because there's still a little bit of the calcium left on the porcelain,
but now I won't have to replace the toilet because it flushes now.

Thanks for all the advice from everyone on how to use this muriatic acid
stuff. I was a bit cautious about using acid because I'd never used it
before, but with everyone's advice it encouraged me to go ahead and give
it a try. ?(???)?

Now use a funnel, place into to the overflow tube in the tank. Pour a
quart of MA down (no need to drain the tank or bowl) ... let that sit
a couple of hours to clear the cooties out of the bowl rim and jets.

Turn on the fan and close the door. If you get fizzing in the bowl, do
not worry - it will stop - it's just calcium in the hard water. Soft
water will not fizz like hard water.



hmm I thought I read somewhere that sometimes pouring the MA down the
tank overflow tube can sometimes eat away as the gaskets, or am I
thinking of something else? That's one reason I've hesitated to do that
with the overflow tube.

The rim jets are clear as far as what I can see, but I understand what
you mean by cleaning out the cooties from the inside of the jets. I
thought about putting a funnel into the bottom jet so I could get the MA
into the hole and clean it out better that way. One other thing is that
my bathroom fan has quit working recently and needs replacing. It's on
the TO DO list, and there's no window in that bathroom to vent.

--
Maggie

The fans are usually very easy to service and repair. The motors are easy to change and the life of the original motor can often be extended by removing it from the fan housing and injecting oil into the felt oil reservoirs in the bearing housings on either end of the motor. If you could post a picture of the fan you have without the plastic cover, I could tell much more about the one you have and how to repair it. Brand name helps too. (€¢ —¡€¢)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GwduJeGiTnM

[8~{} Uncle Fan Monster


hmmm That might be tricky because I had to cover it with some
insulation (temporarily) because heat was coming into the bathroom from
the attic from the thing. I think the last time I turned it on, which
was when I noticed it wasn't working, that maybe something didn't close
and that's why so much attic hot air is getting into the bathroom. Now
that it's covered, the bathroom is much cooler. I was thinking of
waiting until the weather cools off a bit more before I try to get it
fixed because the attic is just so hot right now.

--
Maggie

It's unusual that hot air would be coming in through the exhaust fan because there is supposed to be an airflow operated damper that will close when the fan is turned off. The excess heat coming into the fan housing could be responsible for drying out the oiled felt in the bearing housings causing the fan to seize up. If you do tinker with the fan, make sure that damper is working. It can round or rectangular depending on the model. ^_^

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ardjP8Qso8

[8~{} Uncle Hot Monster


hmm The one in my bathroom kind of looks like this one:
http://www.homedepot.com/p/Broan-QTX...10HL/202079310

It has a light in the middle and on either side it has louvers. When
it's turned on it runs the fan, light, and a heater at the same time.
The switch on the wall is a dial that I turn with a timer for goes up to
30 mins. I can still turn it on, and the light works, but the fan
doesn't run.

--
Maggie

If you look at the round black part, you'll see a flap inside the opening. That's the damper which is supposed to be closed when the fan isn't running to prevent back-drafts. Those fans are very easy to repair and you may look up your manufacturer and model number on YouTube to see if someone has a how to repair video on yours or a model close to it. \ (€¢—¡€¢) /

[8~{} Uncle Repair Monster


ok That damper you describe makes sense.


Sure wish you would start trimming off some
of the old text. Makes it a lot easier for
your readers.

--
..
Christopher A. Young
learn more about Jesus
.. www.lds.org
..
..

On 8/4/2015 12:15 PM, Muggles wrote:

I never know which one to use when I want to oil my household
oscillating fan motors. WD-40?


For oiling fan motors, Zoom Spout Turbine Oil
is designed for the job. Comes with a handy
applicator bottle, also.

http://www.amazon.com/Supco-MO98-Zoo.../dp/B008MG3T1Q

The tube extends, which makes it a lot easier to get
oil to the bearings.

ND-30 or two stroke mix oil are also okay.

WD and sewing machine oils or three in one
dry up too quickly.

--
..
Christopher A. Young
learn more about Jesus
.. www.lds.org
..
..

On 8/4/2015 12:27 PM, FrozenNorth wrote:
On 8/4/2015 12:15 PM, Muggles wrote:
I never know which one to use when I want to oil my household
oscillating fan motors. WD-40?

Use oil, like a 3 in 1 from the hardware store, WD40 is not a lubricant.


Tried that, it dries up in a few weeks.

http://www.amazon.com/Supco-MO98-Zoo.../dp/B008MG3T1Q

turbine oil works so much better.

--
..
Christopher A. Young
learn more about Jesus
.. www.lds.org
..
..

On 8/4/2015 12:27 PM, FrozenNorth wrote:
On 8/4/2015 12:15 PM, Muggles wrote:
I never know which one to use when I want to oil my household
oscillating fan motors. WD-40?

Use oil, like a 3 in 1 from the hardware store, WD40 is not a lubricant.


WD is a passable lubricant, but it dries up.

Zoom spout
http://www.amazon.com/Supco-MO98-Zoo.../dp/B008MG3T1Q
works well for motors.

--
..
Christopher A. Young
learn more about Jesus
.. www.lds.org
..
..

On 8/4/2015 6:24 PM, J Burns wrote:
On 8/4/15 12:15 PM, Muggles wrote:
On 8/4/2015 10:49 AM, Uncle Monster wrote:
On Tuesday, August 4, 2015 at 10:17:36 AM UTC-5, Muggles wrote:
On 8/3/2015 11:08 PM, J Burns wrote:
On 7/26/15 11:06 AM, Muggles wrote:
On 7/26/2015 7:51 AM, Stormin Mormon wrote:


One of the limits of the typed word. Some times
it seems as clear as can be (to me) but doesn't
seem as clear to others. Thanks for asking, and
giving me the chance to give some more detail.

A service I don't offer to everone, seeing as
how Ashton tells me I'm a bigot.

Now-a-days if you aren't politically correct that means you've
passed go
and automatically proceed to jail where they print "bigot" on your
orange uniform.


That would certainly be bigotry! All these years, I didn't know the
meaning of the word.

It goes back to 1450, when people learned that a German blacksmith had
invented the internet. It was text only, but they knew it was going to
be very big someday. There was no IPO, so they sued.

By 1600, it was very popular. Through the medium, liberal religious
ideas had gained enough attention to be very controversial. The French
coined the term "bigot" for a person with an obstinate belief in the
superiority of his own opinions and an intolerance of the opinions of
others.

Confidentially, I think WD-40 is the greatest product on the market
today. It does everything better than anything else. I wouldn't dare
say so here because you-know-who is a bigot.


What do you think of silicon spray? Is it politically correct to use
that, or is WD-40 more pc?

--
Maggie

Silicon spray is used to remove paint and rust. Silicon is sand and
the sprayer for it is called a sandblaster. "Silicone spray" on the
other hand is used a a mold release or lubricant. WD-40 was developed
to displace moisture and protect parts of a military missile system
thus the term WD means "Water Displacer" and 40 was the number of
tries it took to arrive at the final formulation. \ (€¢—¡€¢) /

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WD-40

[8~{} Uncle Rocket Monster


I never know which one to use when I want to oil my household
oscillating fan motors. WD-40?

I used WD-40 to flush out the bearings of an old 16" table fan. I
allowed time for evaporation, then oiled with sewing-machine oil,
similar to 3-in-1.

I figured the test was whether it would start when I pressed Low. It
would do so unless I let it sit a week. You-know-who recommended 30W
motor oil. I thought that was much too viscous for a table fan, so I
reapplied sewing-machine oil. The result was the same.

I applied motor oil from an ancient 1/2-ounce oiler. I thought I had
20W in there, but maybe it was 30W. It worked, but I'm not going to
tell you-know-who. The only thing worse than a bigot is a bigot who
knows he has been proved correct!

I won't tell you-know-who either if I can figure out who that is.

--
Maggie

On 8/4/2015 7:00 PM, J Burns wrote:
On 8/4/15 11:15 AM, Uncle Monster wrote:

I recall a study that showed that the
consumption of water can be deadly. Researchers took convict
volunteers, pumped 10 gallons of water into them and they died.

At the station in Ketchikan in the 1970s, there wasn't much to do in bad
weather but pass the time at the club. It would be easy to get into the
habit of drinking too much beer. I began ordering a beer and a pitcher
of water. I discovered that water could make me feel intoxicated.

Later, I read that when somebody passes out from too much beer, the
water in his system may be a greater danger than the alcohol.

For decades, there have been fashionable recommendations to drink so
many liters of water a day. To the contrary, I've read that it's better
to ignore that and drink when you're thirsty because too much water
plays havoc on the endocrine system.

There have also been lots of fashionable recommendations to avoid salt.
Inadequate salt can cause healthy military personnel to drop dead. I
think brain swelling is a common cause. Before I learned to be sure to
get enough salt, I could get pretty sick when summer came. A teaspoon
of salt was a quick cure.

I used to get really bad headaches after working out in the heat, but
they wouldn't happen until a couple hours after I've been inside and
cooled off. Lately, I've been adding a little bit if salt to my water I
drink when I'm out in the heat and that helps a lot. No more headaches.

--
Maggie

On 8/4/2015 7:15 PM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
On 8/4/2015 11:16 AM, Muggles wrote:
On 8/3/2015 11:06 PM, Uncle Monster wrote:


If you look at the round black part, you'll see a flap inside the
opening. That's the damper which is supposed to be closed when the
fan isn't running to prevent back-drafts. Those fans are very easy to
repair and you may look up your manufacturer and model number on
YouTube to see if someone has a how to repair video on yours or a
model close to it. \ (€¢—¡€¢) /

[8~{} Uncle Repair Monster


ok That damper you describe makes sense.


Sure wish you would start trimming off some
of the old text. Makes it a lot easier for
your readers.


How's this?

--
Maggie

On 8/4/2015 7:20 PM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
On 8/4/2015 12:15 PM, Muggles wrote:

I never know which one to use when I want to oil my household
oscillating fan motors. WD-40?


For oiling fan motors, Zoom Spout Turbine Oil
is designed for the job. Comes with a handy
applicator bottle, also.

http://www.amazon.com/Supco-MO98-Zoo.../dp/B008MG3T1Q

The tube extends, which makes it a lot easier to get
oil to the bearings.

ND-30 or two stroke mix oil are also okay.

WD and sewing machine oils or three in one
dry up too quickly.


ok Never heard of that brand, but I'll look for some.

--
Maggie

On 8/4/15 8:20 PM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
On 8/4/2015 12:15 PM, Muggles wrote:

I never know which one to use when I want to oil my household
oscillating fan motors. WD-40?


For oiling fan motors, Zoom Spout Turbine Oil
is designed for the job. Comes with a handy
applicator bottle, also.

http://www.amazon.com/Supco-MO98-Zoo.../dp/B008MG3T1Q

The tube extends, which makes it a lot easier to get
oil to the bearings.

ND-30 or two stroke mix oil are also okay.

WD and sewing machine oils or three in one
dry up too quickly.

The retail price for MO98 is $2.25, a lot less than Amazon. Some places
sell it for $1.31. Not bad if you can find it.

It's about half kerosene and half heavy paraffinic oils. The kerosene
would help it run into tight spaces, then evaporate.

Amazon customers have also had good luck with 3-in-one electric motor
oil, which is almost entirely 20 weight mineral oil. Some mineral oil
is paraffinic.

The 3-in-one multipurpose oil is almost entirely heavy naphthenic oil.
They don't say what weight.

On 8/4/15 10:54 AM, Uncle Monster wrote:
On Tuesday, August 4, 2015 at 7:31:40 AM UTC-5, J Burns wrote:
On 8/4/15 7:19 AM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
On 8/3/2015 11:25 PM, Muggles wrote:
On 8/3/2015 9:49 PM, J Burns wrote:

At one time, muriatic acid was made from brine. Maybe it
still is. Muriatic acid is sold for cleaning, where
impurities won't hurt. In the case of Zep, the "impurities",
such as surfactants, help it clean.

I don't keep hydrochloric acid. If I need it to clean, I use
vinegar and salt. That produces muriatic acid that's mostly
"impurities."

ahh ok ... I didn't know that. Thanks!


Vinegar is a mild acid, and salt does contain chlorine. To mix
them and call it muriatic acid, I doubt that is the case.

I'd go for muriatic or hydrochloric acid, rather than the vinegar
mix, for my own uses.


Acetic acid and sodium chloride react to make sodium acetate and
hydrogen chloride. In other words, hydrochloric acid with an
impurity. I like to heat it for bigots to take a whiff.

Yea, I know what you mean. All those Progressive Liberal Leftists
Commiecrat Freaks bigots need to be bathed in the stuff. Perhaps just
wash out their mouths with it. (¬€¿Â¬)

[8~{} Uncle Clean Monster


I always rooted for Archie, beleaguered in his own home by his bigoted
son-in-law and his rebellious daughter. If only Edith had been more
supportive!

On 8/4/15 8:35 PM, Muggles wrote:
On 8/4/2015 6:24 PM, J Burns wrote:


I never know which one to use when I want to oil my household
oscillating fan motors. WD-40?

I used WD-40 to flush out the bearings of an old 16" table fan. I
allowed time for evaporation, then oiled with sewing-machine oil,
similar to 3-in-1.

I figured the test was whether it would start when I pressed Low. It
would do so unless I let it sit a week. You-know-who recommended 30W
motor oil. I thought that was much too viscous for a table fan, so I
reapplied sewing-machine oil. The result was the same.

I applied motor oil from an ancient 1/2-ounce oiler. I thought I had
20W in there, but maybe it was 30W. It worked, but I'm not going to
tell you-know-who. The only thing worse than a bigot is a bigot who
knows he has been proved correct!

I won't tell you-know-who either if I can figure out who that is.

He just recommended ND-30 to you. I've a good mind to lie and say it
didn't work! I don't dare say his name. A flame war is a terrible
thing, once it gets started.

On 08/04/2015 09:15 AM, Uncle Monster wrote:
I recall a study that showed that the consumption of water can be deadly. Researchers took convict volunteers, pumped 10 gallons of water into them and they died.

Medical research done at Gitmo doesn't count.

On 8/4/2015 9:33 PM, J Burns wrote:
On 8/4/15 8:35 PM, Muggles wrote:
On 8/4/2015 6:24 PM, J Burns wrote:


I never know which one to use when I want to oil my household
oscillating fan motors. WD-40?

I used WD-40 to flush out the bearings of an old 16" table fan. I
allowed time for evaporation, then oiled with sewing-machine oil,
similar to 3-in-1.

I figured the test was whether it would start when I pressed Low. It
would do so unless I let it sit a week. You-know-who recommended 30W
motor oil. I thought that was much too viscous for a table fan, so I
reapplied sewing-machine oil. The result was the same.

I applied motor oil from an ancient 1/2-ounce oiler. I thought I had
20W in there, but maybe it was 30W. It worked, but I'm not going to
tell you-know-who. The only thing worse than a bigot is a bigot who
knows he has been proved correct!

I won't tell you-know-who either if I can figure out who that is.

He just recommended ND-30 to you. I've a good mind to lie and say it
didn't work! I don't dare say his name. A flame war is a terrible
thing, once it gets started.

ok mums the word.

--
Maggie

Stormin Mormon wrote:
On 8/4/2015 12:15 PM, Muggles wrote:

I never know which one to use when I want to oil my household
oscillating fan motors. WD-40?


For oiling fan motors, Zoom Spout Turbine Oil
is designed for the job. Comes with a handy
applicator bottle, also.

http://www.amazon.com/Supco-MO98-Zoo.../dp/B008MG3T1Q

The tube extends, which makes it a lot easier to get
oil to the bearings.

ND-30 or two stroke mix oil are also okay.

WD and sewing machine oils or three in one
dry up too quickly.


I use a zoom spout for getting through fins in squirrel cages. Should be 20
weight. 3n1 blue can is for motors 20 weight. Been usin some brand of zoom
spouts for at least 25 years. It goes up or down position, just adjust
spout.

Greg

On Tuesday, August 4, 2015 at 6:42:38 PM UTC-5, FrozenNorth wrote:
On 8/4/2015 5:43 PM, Uncle Monster wrote:
On Tuesday, August 4, 2015 at 11:15:58 AM UTC-5, Muggles wrote:
On 8/4/2015 10:49 AM, Uncle Monster wrote:
On Tuesday, August 4, 2015 at 10:17:36 AM UTC-5, Muggles wrote:
On 8/3/2015 11:08 PM, J Burns wrote:
On 7/26/15 11:06 AM, Muggles wrote:
On 7/26/2015 7:51 AM, Stormin Mormon wrote:


One of the limits of the typed word. Some times
it seems as clear as can be (to me) but doesn't
seem as clear to others. Thanks for asking, and
giving me the chance to give some more detail.

A service I don't offer to everone, seeing as
how Ashton tells me I'm a bigot.

Now-a-days if you aren't politically correct that means you've passed go
and automatically proceed to jail where they print "bigot" on your
orange uniform.


That would certainly be bigotry! All these years, I didn't know the
meaning of the word.

It goes back to 1450, when people learned that a German blacksmith had
invented the internet. It was text only, but they knew it was going to
be very big someday. There was no IPO, so they sued.

By 1600, it was very popular. Through the medium, liberal religious
ideas had gained enough attention to be very controversial. The French
coined the term "bigot" for a person with an obstinate belief in the
superiority of his own opinions and an intolerance of the opinions of
others.

Confidentially, I think WD-40 is the greatest product on the market
today. It does everything better than anything else. I wouldn't dare
say so here because you-know-who is a bigot.


What do you think of silicon spray? Is it politically correct to use
that, or is WD-40 more pc?

--
Maggie

Silicon spray is used to remove paint and rust. Silicon is sand and the sprayer for it is called a sandblaster. "Silicone spray" on the other hand is used a a mold release or lubricant. WD-40 was developed to displace moisture and protect parts of a military missile system thus the term WD means "Water Displacer" and 40 was the number of tries it took to arrive at the final formulation. \ (€¢—¡€¢) /

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WD-40

[8~{} Uncle Rocket Monster


I never know which one to use when I want to oil my household
oscillating fan motors. WD-40?


I'd use 3-in-One Oil. ( ͡ᵔ ͜ʖ ͡ᵔ )

I think Jenn might have finally plonked me for real, oh well I gave the
same advice, and you get the credit a couple hours later.

--
Froz...


The last time I got an Email from Jenn was when you guys in the political group scared her off the groups and she wrote that she was taking a vacation from Usenet. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[8~{} Uncle Oil Monster

On Tuesday, August 4, 2015 at 7:00:29 PM UTC-5, J Burns wrote:
On 8/4/15 11:15 AM, Uncle Monster wrote:

I recall a study that showed that the
consumption of water can be deadly. Researchers took convict
volunteers, pumped 10 gallons of water into them and they died.

At the station in Ketchikan in the 1970s, there wasn't much to do in bad
weather but pass the time at the club. It would be easy to get into the
habit of drinking too much beer. I began ordering a beer and a pitcher
of water. I discovered that water could make me feel intoxicated.

Later, I read that when somebody passes out from too much beer, the
water in his system may be a greater danger than the alcohol.

For decades, there have been fashionable recommendations to drink so
many liters of water a day. To the contrary, I've read that it's better
to ignore that and drink when you're thirsty because too much water
plays havoc on the endocrine system.

There have also been lots of fashionable recommendations to avoid salt.
Inadequate salt can cause healthy military personnel to drop dead. I
think brain swelling is a common cause. Before I learned to be sure to
get enough salt, I could get pretty sick when summer came. A teaspoon
of salt was a quick cure.

I have no experience with drinking alcohol. I've never had a beer or even a glass of wine in my life. I suppose I'm weird but I do drink a lot of fluids, mostly water right now and I pee a lot. I drink a lot of fluid by habit because I was once prone to developing kidney stones but because of my high fluid intake, I haven't had any kidney stones in 25 years. Back in the early 1980's, a doctor put me on a diuretic to treat high blood pressure but failed to prescribe potassium and it could have killed me because I was so active working in hot weather that I sweat like a thunderstorm. There was no Interweb back then for me to research why I often felt like a run down battery. When I mentioned it to a pharmacist he asked if I was taking potassium. I finally got a prescription from the doc for potassium and it solved my run down battery feeling. I have potassium at home that I would take because I was taking a prescription diuretic and if I felt run down after working and sweating heavily, I'd take a potassium tablet and I'd feel better. Gatorade and Powerade helped me a great deal when I was working in hot weather because the electrolytes in those drinks can get into your system very quickly. You mentioned salt and I've never added extra salt to my food because there has always been enough salt in what I was eating and of course in the sports drinks I consumed in hot weather. I have to wonder about the problem with drinking beer with a water chaser. I recall that alcohol in beer has diuretic properties and if one drinks a lot of water with it, I imagine that you'd lose a lot of your electrolytes. Perhaps all the salty snack food on the bar would help in that respect. I could swear I remember seeing bartenders applying salt to the rims of beer mugs or shot glasses. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[8~{} Uncle Salt Monster

On Tuesday, August 4, 2015 at 7:22:22 PM UTC-5, Stormin Mormon wrote:
On 8/4/2015 12:27 PM, FrozenNorth wrote:
On 8/4/2015 12:15 PM, Muggles wrote:
I never know which one to use when I want to oil my household
oscillating fan motors. WD-40?

Use oil, like a 3 in 1 from the hardware store, WD40 is not a lubricant..


Tried that, it dries up in a few weeks.

http://www.amazon.com/Supco-MO98-Zoo.../dp/B008MG3T1Q

turbine oil works so much better.
--
.

I put the turbine oil in a syringe that has a big bore needle with the sharp point ground off so the needle is a tube. Many small motors have sealed bearing housings packed with oil soaked felt that's supposed to keep the bearings lubed for the life of the motor. I use a drill with a bit slightly larger in diameter than the blunted needle and drill into the bearing housing so I can inject oil into it to replenish the the oil supply. The syringe is also good for applying oil the shaft where it meets the bearing in small amounts so it soaks into the bearing to loosen it up. That way, you don't get oil dripping all over everything. The tiny hole in the bearing housing can be sealed with a small piece of aluminum duct tape or tiny dab of RTV silicone so you can oil it again if needed. (¬€¿Â¬)

[8~{} Uncle Motor Monster

On Tuesday, August 4, 2015 at 9:27:11 PM UTC-5, J Burns wrote:
On 8/4/15 10:54 AM, Uncle Monster wrote:
On Tuesday, August 4, 2015 at 7:31:40 AM UTC-5, J Burns wrote:
On 8/4/15 7:19 AM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
On 8/3/2015 11:25 PM, Muggles wrote:
On 8/3/2015 9:49 PM, J Burns wrote:

At one time, muriatic acid was made from brine. Maybe it
still is. Muriatic acid is sold for cleaning, where
impurities won't hurt. In the case of Zep, the "impurities",
such as surfactants, help it clean.

I don't keep hydrochloric acid. If I need it to clean, I use
vinegar and salt. That produces muriatic acid that's mostly
"impurities."

ahh ok ... I didn't know that. Thanks!


Vinegar is a mild acid, and salt does contain chlorine. To mix
them and call it muriatic acid, I doubt that is the case.

I'd go for muriatic or hydrochloric acid, rather than the vinegar
mix, for my own uses.


Acetic acid and sodium chloride react to make sodium acetate and
hydrogen chloride. In other words, hydrochloric acid with an
impurity. I like to heat it for bigots to take a whiff.

Yea, I know what you mean. All those Progressive Liberal Leftists
Commiecrat Freaks bigots need to be bathed in the stuff. Perhaps just
wash out their mouths with it. (¬€¿Â¬)

[8~{} Uncle Clean Monster


I always rooted for Archie, beleaguered in his own home by his bigoted
son-in-law and his rebellious daughter. If only Edith had been more
supportive!

Edith was one of my favorite TV characters of all time because I actually knew women who sounded like her. ( ͡ᵔ ͜ʖ ͡ᵔ )

[8~{} Uncle Bunker Monster

On 8/5/15 2:54 AM, Uncle Monster wrote:
On Tuesday, August 4, 2015 at 9:27:11 PM UTC-5, J Burns wrote:
On 8/4/15 10:54 AM, Uncle Monster wrote:
On Tuesday, August 4, 2015 at 7:31:40 AM UTC-5, J Burns wrote:
On 8/4/15 7:19 AM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
On 8/3/2015 11:25 PM, Muggles wrote:
On 8/3/2015 9:49 PM, J Burns wrote:

At one time, muriatic acid was made from brine. Maybe
it still is. Muriatic acid is sold for cleaning, where
impurities won't hurt. In the case of Zep, the
"impurities", such as surfactants, help it clean.

I don't keep hydrochloric acid. If I need it to clean, I
use vinegar and salt. That produces muriatic acid that's
mostly "impurities."

ahh ok ... I didn't know that. Thanks!


Vinegar is a mild acid, and salt does contain chlorine. To
mix them and call it muriatic acid, I doubt that is the
case.

I'd go for muriatic or hydrochloric acid, rather than the
vinegar mix, for my own uses.


Acetic acid and sodium chloride react to make sodium acetate
and hydrogen chloride. In other words, hydrochloric acid with
an impurity. I like to heat it for bigots to take a whiff.

Yea, I know what you mean. All those Progressive Liberal
Leftists Commiecrat Freaks bigots need to be bathed in the stuff.
Perhaps just wash out their mouths with it. (¬€¿Â¬)

[8~{} Uncle Clean Monster


I always rooted for Archie, beleaguered in his own home by his
bigoted son-in-law and his rebellious daughter. If only Edith had
been more supportive!

Edith was one of my favorite TV characters of all time because I
actually knew women who sounded like her. ( ͡ᵔ ͜ʖ ͡ᵔ )

[8~{} Uncle Bunker Monster


I think Edith showed the conflict between conscience and the herd
instinct in Dean Hoffman's thread. Archie and Meathead showed how
antagonists can each show an obstinate belief in the superiority of his
opinions. Archie's bigotry seemed more lovable, partly because he was
more creative. You have to be lovable to know a term like jungle bunny
and to suggest that airline passengers should pull out their rods and
blow hijackers away!

On Wednesday, August 5, 2015 at 2:54:50 AM UTC-5, J Burns wrote:
On 8/5/15 2:54 AM, Uncle Monster wrote:
On Tuesday, August 4, 2015 at 9:27:11 PM UTC-5, J Burns wrote:
On 8/4/15 10:54 AM, Uncle Monster wrote:
On Tuesday, August 4, 2015 at 7:31:40 AM UTC-5, J Burns wrote:
On 8/4/15 7:19 AM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
On 8/3/2015 11:25 PM, Muggles wrote:
On 8/3/2015 9:49 PM, J Burns wrote:

At one time, muriatic acid was made from brine. Maybe
it still is. Muriatic acid is sold for cleaning, where
impurities won't hurt. In the case of Zep, the
"impurities", such as surfactants, help it clean.

I don't keep hydrochloric acid. If I need it to clean, I
use vinegar and salt. That produces muriatic acid that's
mostly "impurities."

ahh ok ... I didn't know that. Thanks!


Vinegar is a mild acid, and salt does contain chlorine. To
mix them and call it muriatic acid, I doubt that is the
case.

I'd go for muriatic or hydrochloric acid, rather than the
vinegar mix, for my own uses.


Acetic acid and sodium chloride react to make sodium acetate
and hydrogen chloride. In other words, hydrochloric acid with
an impurity. I like to heat it for bigots to take a whiff.

Yea, I know what you mean. All those Progressive Liberal
Leftists Commiecrat Freaks bigots need to be bathed in the stuff.
Perhaps just wash out their mouths with it. (¬€¿Â¬)

[8~{} Uncle Clean Monster


I always rooted for Archie, beleaguered in his own home by his
bigoted son-in-law and his rebellious daughter. If only Edith had
been more supportive!

Edith was one of my favorite TV characters of all time because I
actually knew women who sounded like her. ( ͡ᵔ ͜ʖ ͡ᵔ )

[8~{} Uncle Bunker Monster


I think Edith showed the conflict between conscience and the herd
instinct in Dean Hoffman's thread. Archie and Meathead showed how
antagonists can each show an obstinate belief in the superiority of his
opinions. Archie's bigotry seemed more lovable, partly because he was
more creative. You have to be lovable to know a term like jungle bunny
and to suggest that airline passengers should pull out their rods and
blow hijackers away!

It still amazes me how the public is so easily manipulated by the media and entertainment industry. I believe the show 24 is a good example. A Black senator is portrayed as a wonderful altruistic intelligent man who came out of nowhere to run for President and he wins. He winds up with a complete moron Vice President who happens to be White. Remind you of anything? I think it was a way to get the public used to the idea of having a Black President. I really hope that unlike the TV show that nothing ever happens to cause the death of our first Affirmative Action President. He would be a martyr deified by the Progressive Liberal Leftist Commiecrat Freaks who would become insufferable to be around or listen to. á•™(‡€€¸†¼€¶)á•—

[8~{} Uncle Insufferable Monster

On 08/05/2015 04:28 AM, Uncle Monster wrote:


It still amazes me how the public is so easily manipulated by the media and entertainment industry. I believe the show 24 is a good example. A Black senator is portrayed as a wonderful altruistic intelligent man who came out of nowhere to run for President and he wins. He winds up with a complete moron Vice President who happens to be White. Remind you of anything? I think it was a way to get the public used to the idea of having a Black President. I really hope that unlike the TV show that nothing ever happens to cause the death of our first Affirmative Action President. He would be a martyr deified by the Progressive Liberal Leftist Commiecrat Freaks who would become insufferable to be around or listen to. á•™(‡€€¸†¼€¶)á•—

[8~{} Uncle Insufferable Monster


The US has two classes of people:
- alarm clock slapping taxpayers
- lazy bums that don't even own an alarm clock

Unfortunately, the lazy bums outnumber the working folks.
Consequently, politicians promising free stuff to the lazy will win the
election every time.

The only solution to this current mess is to restrict voting privileges
to taxpayers.