On 7/24/2015 2:52 PM, Brent wrote:
On 7/24/2015 2:45 PM, Muggles wrote:

I don't want to damage anything accidentally by using an acid, but if
that's the only think that'll work, what would be the safest one to try
first?


Before you rent a jack hammer from McLowesDepotBigBoxMart, maybe try
some vinegar.

http://www.thechemicalblog.co.uk/how...as-a-descaler/

The one thing I haven't tried would be vinegar or citric acid. I think
I'll give those a try. {{adds to grocery list}}

Thanks!

--
Maggie

On Fri, 24 Jul 2015 14:56:43 -0500, Muggles wrote:

You can progress to others but two cups of pool (muriatic acid) acid
poured in the bowl, brushed around with a nylon toilet brush and then
neutralized with baking soda before you flush -- in case you are on a
septic system or cast iron sewer lines.

More details are needed.

See "Method 2 of 2: Muriatic Acid Method"

http://www.wikihow.com/Fix-a-Slow-Toilet


gee ... that sounds dangerous for me to try, anyway. I'm thinking that
trying a less dangerous acid might be better for me.

I can't help without a little more details.

- White vinegar (takes a long time on calcium)

- Citric Acid crystals (mild to etch concrete for epoxy coatings)

- Sulfamic acid (tile and grout cleaner)

- Muriactic acid (neutralized after use, before flushing)

....
- Lysergic acid diethylamide, LSD (take a trip and never come back)

G

On 2015-07-24, Brent wrote:

Before you rent a jack hammer from McLowesDepotBigBoxMart, maybe try some vinegar.

Here's an interesting U2B video about removing moles using vinegar:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxIHRMh50kc

nb

On 7/24/2015 3:29 PM, Oren wrote:
On Fri, 24 Jul 2015 14:56:43 -0500, Muggles wrote:

You can progress to others but two cups of pool (muriatic acid) acid
poured in the bowl, brushed around with a nylon toilet brush and then
neutralized with baking soda before you flush -- in case you are on a
septic system or cast iron sewer lines.

More details are needed.

See "Method 2 of 2: Muriatic Acid Method"

http://www.wikihow.com/Fix-a-Slow-Toilet


gee ... that sounds dangerous for me to try, anyway. I'm thinking that
trying a less dangerous acid might be better for me.

I can't help without a little more details.

- White vinegar (takes a long time on calcium)

- Citric Acid crystals (mild to etch concrete for epoxy coatings)

- Sulfamic acid (tile and grout cleaner)

- Muriactic acid (neutralized after use, before flushing)

...
- Lysergic acid diethylamide, LSD (take a trip and never come back)

G


HAHAHA!! I'm thinking of trying the white vinegar first. I've chipped
away some of the thickest deposits, vinegar is cheap, and I don't mind
if I have to let it soak more than one time. If it helps even a little
bit I'll be happy.

Uncle Monster suggested trying "The Works Disinfectant Toilet Bowl
Cleaner". I could try that one, too.

--
Maggie

On 7/24/2015 1:56 PM, Uncle Monster wrote:
On Friday, July 24, 2015 at 1:29:15 PM UTC-5, Muggles wrote:
On 7/24/2015 1:06 PM, J Burns wrote:
On 7/23/15 1:55 AM, Robert Green wrote:
"J Burns" wrote in message

stuff snipped

A paper towel costs 150 times more than a sheet of toilet paper. It's
harder to rip off the roll with one hand, and paper towels fill a waste
basket in a hurry . . .
I'm going to find me a pecan stick so I can use a couple of pieces of
wire to hang a toilet paper roll. Then I'll have a state-of-the-art
toilet-paper-and-borax kitchen.

I mounted a toilet paper roll inside a kitchen cabinet door for the same
reason: Keeping as much grease as possible from going into the drain.
Cheaper than paper towels, that's for sure.

Yeah, toilet tissue picks up grease better than water, and it takes up
very little space in the waste basket. Maybe I could sell those wads to
start charcoal fires!

I've been keeping a sprayer with borax by the sink a couple of months,
dispensing it several times a day. Last night I saw my first roach in a
long time. It was on the dining-room carpet. Their speed can be
frustrating for a hunter without a shotgun, so I got my sprayer and
turned the nozzle to squirt.

Borax won't hurt a carpet. It will kill a bug before long, but the
immediate effect is uncertain. It made him so slow that stepping on him
felt unsporting.

I have this stubborn calcium deposit stuck to my toilet bowl, and I've
tried everything I can find off the store shelves that I'd normally
clean it with and nothing seems to work. I actually got some of it to
chip off, but it's a pain to even get that to come off. Is there
anything safe I can use that'll dissolve the calcium deposits that isn't
a nasty acid of some sort?

--
Maggie

I've used," The Works Disinfectant Toilet Bowl Cleaner" and it has never failed to remove all sorts of crud from a toilet. I've also used "Vanish Crystals" on toilets that had been left dirty and dry for very long periods of time and it's brought the bowls back to a nice white sparkle. Unfortunately the Vanish Crystals cleaner has been discontinued. It must be one of those household chemicals that can be used to make explosives. ^_^

https://tinyurl.com/pet7bml

https://tinyurl.com/os42kns

[8~{} Uncle Toilet Monster




OK ... if it works on ready mix, it must work on calcium deposits, too!

--
Maggie

On 7/24/15 2:29 PM, Muggles wrote:
I have this stubborn calcium deposit stuck to my toilet bowl, and I've
tried everything I can find off the store shelves that I'd normally
clean it with and nothing seems to work. I actually got some of it to
chip off, but it's a pain to even get that to come off. Is there
anything safe I can use that'll dissolve the calcium deposits that isn't
a nasty acid of some sort?

-- Maggie

What a coincidence! I bought a cheap low-flow toilet 19 years ago. I'd
use CLR and and the kind of abrasive pad that looks a little like an air
filter, to keep the rim clean, but it was only a few days ago that I
paid attention to the dark stains at the bottom.

I waited until I wouldn't need the toilet for a couple of hours. I shut
off the water, flushed, shoved in a brush to push some of the remaining
water out, and added a maybe 1/2 ounce of CLR. When I came back and
brushed, dark cloudiness showed it was working.

I discovered that 15 minutes after shutting off the water and flushing,
the bowl might be full again. Without much water in the tank to press
the flapper down, I guess it can seep.

I repeated it whenever the toilet would be idle for a period of hours.
Sometimes I used CLR and sometimes vinegar. The cloudiness when I came
back and brushed showed that they both worked.

That cheap toilet has a corner at the very bottom. That was the last
spot to come clean. Some recommend muriatic acid, but I'd be afraid of
pitting the glazing.

On 7/24/2015 3:56 PM, Muggles wrote:
I have this stubborn calcium deposit stuck to my toilet bowl, and I've
tried everything I can find off the store shelves that I'd normally
clean it with and nothing seems to work. I actually got some of it to
chip off, but it's a pain to even get that to come off. Is there
anything safe I can use that'll dissolve the calcium deposits that isn't
a nasty acid of some sort?


See "Method 2 of 2: Muriatic Acid Method"

http://www.wikihow.com/Fix-a-Slow-Toilet


gee ... that sounds dangerous for me to try, anyway. I'm thinking that
trying a less dangerous acid might be better for me.


Nasty acids often are what works on calcium
deposits. CLR cleaning product is phosphoric
and glycolic acids. Worked, for me.


--
..
Christopher A. Young
learn more about Jesus
.. www.lds.org
..
..

On 7/24/2015 4:00 PM, J Burns wrote:
On 7/24/15 2:29 PM, Muggles wrote:
I have this stubborn calcium deposit stuck to my toilet bowl, and I've
tried everything I can find off the store shelves that I'd normally
clean it with and nothing seems to work. I actually got some of it to
chip off, but it's a pain to even get that to come off. Is there
anything safe I can use that'll dissolve the calcium deposits that isn't
a nasty acid of some sort?

-- Maggie

What a coincidence! I bought a cheap low-flow toilet 19 years ago. I'd
use CLR and and the kind of abrasive pad that looks a little like an air
filter, to keep the rim clean, but it was only a few days ago that I
paid attention to the dark stains at the bottom.

I waited until I wouldn't need the toilet for a couple of hours. I shut
off the water, flushed, shoved in a brush to push some of the remaining
water out, and added a maybe 1/2 ounce of CLR. When I came back and
brushed, dark cloudiness showed it was working.

I discovered that 15 minutes after shutting off the water and flushing,
the bowl might be full again. Without much water in the tank to press
the flapper down, I guess it can seep.

I repeated it whenever the toilet would be idle for a period of hours.
Sometimes I used CLR and sometimes vinegar. The cloudiness when I came
back and brushed showed that they both worked.

That cheap toilet has a corner at the very bottom. That was the last
spot to come clean. Some recommend muriatic acid, but I'd be afraid of
pitting the glazing.

I think I can get CLR at Wal-mart market, so I may try a combination of
things like you tried. Heck ... if anything works I'll be happy.

--
Maggie

On Fri, 24 Jul 2015 17:00:34 -0400, J Burns
wrote:

On 7/24/15 2:29 PM, Muggles wrote:
I have this stubborn calcium deposit stuck to my toilet bowl, and I've
tried everything I can find off the store shelves that I'd normally
clean it with and nothing seems to work. I actually got some of it to
chip off, but it's a pain to even get that to come off. Is there
anything safe I can use that'll dissolve the calcium deposits that isn't
a nasty acid of some sort?

-- Maggie

What a coincidence! I bought a cheap low-flow toilet 19 years ago. I'd
use CLR and and the kind of abrasive pad that looks a little like an air
filter, to keep the rim clean, but it was only a few days ago that I
paid attention to the dark stains at the bottom.

I waited until I wouldn't need the toilet for a couple of hours. I shut
off the water, flushed, shoved in a brush to push some of the remaining
water out, and added a maybe 1/2 ounce of CLR. When I came back and
brushed, dark cloudiness showed it was working.

I discovered that 15 minutes after shutting off the water and flushing,
the bowl might be full again. Without much water in the tank to press
the flapper down, I guess it can seep.

I repeated it whenever the toilet would be idle for a period of hours.
Sometimes I used CLR and sometimes vinegar. The cloudiness when I came
back and brushed showed that they both worked.

That cheap toilet has a corner at the very bottom. That was the last
spot to come clean. Some recommend muriatic acid, but I'd be afraid of
pitting the glazing.

If the flush "throat" passage (my term) is not glazed in the toilet it
is a valid concern. I've not had a problem with MA in my former
rental homes or those I detailed for real estate agents.

MA has never harmed a glazing in a modern toilet, YMMV.

On 7/24/2015 4:11 PM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
On 7/24/2015 3:56 PM, Muggles wrote:
I have this stubborn calcium deposit stuck to my toilet bowl, and
I've
tried everything I can find off the store shelves that I'd normally
clean it with and nothing seems to work. I actually got some of
it to
chip off, but it's a pain to even get that to come off. Is there
anything safe I can use that'll dissolve the calcium deposits that
isn't
a nasty acid of some sort?


See "Method 2 of 2: Muriatic Acid Method"

http://www.wikihow.com/Fix-a-Slow-Toilet


gee ... that sounds dangerous for me to try, anyway. I'm thinking that
trying a less dangerous acid might be better for me.


Nasty acids often are what works on calcium
deposits. CLR cleaning product is phosphoric
and glycolic acids. Worked, for me.



I think that makes 3 voting for CLR.

--
Maggie

On 2015-07-24, Brent wrote:

Before you rent a jack hammer from McLowesDepotBigBoxMart, maybe try some vinegar.

http://www.thechemicalblog.co.uk/how...as-a-descaler/

Here's a use for vinegar I never considered:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxIHRMh50kc

Disregard the title, it's about vinegar.

nb

On 7/24/2015 5:13 PM, Muggles wrote:
On 7/24/2015 4:00 PM, J Burns wrote:

I repeated it whenever the toilet would be idle for a period of hours.
Sometimes I used CLR and sometimes vinegar. The cloudiness when I came
back and brushed showed that they both worked.

That cheap toilet has a corner at the very bottom. That was the last
spot to come clean. Some recommend muriatic acid, but I'd be afraid of
pitting the glazing.

I think I can get CLR at Wal-mart market, so I may try a combination of
things like you tried. Heck ... if anything works I'll be happy.


Of course, CLR is an evil wicked strong acid
that is responsible for the death of baby
kittens in Nigeria, on odd numbered Wednesdays.

I'd love to hear that you tried a strong acid,
found it worked nicely and might do it next
time. I've used HCl acid in my toilet bowl, and
it did clear up the calcium scale. Gave out some
fumes, which were nasty for a while. Sigh.

-
..
Christopher A. Young
learn more about Jesus
.. www.lds.org
..
..

On 7/24/2015 5:17 PM, Muggles wrote:
On 7/24/2015 4:11 PM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
Nasty acids often are what works on calcium
deposits. CLR cleaning product is phosphoric
and glycolic acids. Worked, for me.



I think that makes 3 voting for CLR.


On some occasions, the collective wisdom does
the job nicely.

--
..
Christopher A. Young
learn more about Jesus
.. www.lds.org
..
..

On 7/24/2015 4:54 PM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
On 7/24/2015 5:13 PM, Muggles wrote:
On 7/24/2015 4:00 PM, J Burns wrote:

I repeated it whenever the toilet would be idle for a period of hours.
Sometimes I used CLR and sometimes vinegar. The cloudiness when I came
back and brushed showed that they both worked.

That cheap toilet has a corner at the very bottom. That was the last
spot to come clean. Some recommend muriatic acid, but I'd be afraid of
pitting the glazing.

I think I can get CLR at Wal-mart market, so I may try a combination of
things like you tried. Heck ... if anything works I'll be happy.


Of course, CLR is an evil wicked strong acid
that is responsible for the death of baby
kittens in Nigeria, on odd numbered Wednesdays.

I'd love to hear that you tried a strong acid,
found it worked nicely and might do it next
time. I've used HCl acid in my toilet bowl, and
it did clear up the calcium scale. Gave out some
fumes, which were nasty for a while. Sigh.

Does the CLR do the same with the nasty fumes?

--
Maggie

On 7/24/2015 4:55 PM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
On 7/24/2015 5:17 PM, Muggles wrote:
On 7/24/2015 4:11 PM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
Nasty acids often are what works on calcium
deposits. CLR cleaning product is phosphoric
and glycolic acids. Worked, for me.



I think that makes 3 voting for CLR.


On some occasions, the collective wisdom does
the job nicely.


I've learned a lot from just reading the group, and I appreciate the
help when I've asked questions.

--
Maggie

On Fri, 24 Jul 2015 17:00:45 -0500, Muggles wrote:

On some occasions, the collective wisdom does
the job nicely.


I've learned a lot from just reading the group, and I appreciate the
help when I've asked questions.

People can give better advice when a poster answers question asked.

Like when I asked if the calcium deposit was under water or under the
rim bowl.

On 7/24/15 3:40 PM, notbob wrote:
On 2015-07-24, J Burns wrote:

In the 1990s, Bayer.....

Dirtbags from the git.

Isn't magnesium the med we need, but there's a limit to how much you
can buy as a supplement?

nb

I'm skeptical of pills. If the supplement gets to the intestine, it may
not be absorbed and may interfere with the absorption of calcium.

Fifteen years ago, people could see I was deathly I'll, and the cause
was a mystery. An endocrinologist (a PhD and not an MD) said my small
intestine was full of holes. He recommended cooked carrots with butter
for Vitamin A, and Epsom salt for magnesium.

In a few weeks I was better and quit the Epsom salt. After a couple of
months, my digestion was still fine, but I realized I was doing worse in
other ways. I resumed the Epsom salt and never regretted it.

If you took a teaspoon or two of Epsom salt, it would get to the
intestine and, by holding water, act as a laxative. My adviser
recommended 1/8 tsp in a glass of water 3 times a day. An eighth tsp is
only about 60 mg. The old RDA was 400 mg, and some say it should be
1000. That little bit in a glass of water isn't much to correct a
deficiency.

I began mixing 1/2 tsp per pint of water and keeping it in a clear
plastic sports bottle in the counter. Like an animal going to a salt
lick, I'd take a drink when I had a taste for magnesium. Typically, I
drink two bottles a day. That would be 500 mg, half the RDA some
recommend. The dilution helps my stomach absorb it quickly, like a shot
of liquor on an empty stomach. Come to think of it, it affects me a
little like liquor. I feel refreshed, relaxed, and energized.

Last Christmas, three different people gave me chocolate candy. For a
week or so, I ate a lot of candy. I noticed my thirst for magnesium
water shot up to about four bottles a day. One function of magnesium is
to get insulin into the cells, where it belongs, and more sugar requires
more insulin. I guess magnesium is lost in the process. If insulin has
trouble getting into the cells, that's insulin resistance, which leads
to diabetes.

On 7/22/15 8:09 AM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
On 7/21/2015 10:16 PM, Roger Blake wrote:

We don't need cadre of armed thugs (which is all that government is)
dictating
every aspect of our lives. I still use full-flow toilets and shower
heads,
and in general refuse to follow the dictates of the federal scumbags.
They're
little more than a criminal gang -- screw the *******s.


I've noted a disagrement or two with Robert Green. He
does seem a bit left of myself on a few matters.

And I do agree that the US gov has changed from servants
of the people to Our Nations Leaders. Perhaps it was
always that way, but recently ever so much more so.

Have you forgotten the whiskey tax? Hamilton said it wouldn't help the
budget but would show the common people who was boss. It didn't help
the federal budget, but it did wonders for Washington's. He diversified
from marijuana into liquor. Taxed at a far lower rate than guys like
me, he ran the biggest still in North America.

I could have been on easy street if I could have sold the stuff I
distilled in the cellar in grammar school. (I told the pharmacist I was
buying the equipment for my chemistry set. The cellar was so dirty that
my parents never went down there.)

Darned government interference! I wanted to hire Robert Mitchum to
transport it. Then somebody told me Thunder Road was fiction.

My mother's uncle got caught. Every Wednesday, the warden gave him a
24-hour pass to tend the still the feds hadn't found. Naturally, the
prison staff invited him to their parties.

On 7/24/2015 5:42 PM, Oren wrote:
On Fri, 24 Jul 2015 17:00:45 -0500, Muggles wrote:

On some occasions, the collective wisdom does
the job nicely.


I've learned a lot from just reading the group, and I appreciate the
help when I've asked questions.

People can give better advice when a poster answers question asked.

Like when I asked if the calcium deposit was under water or under the
rim bowl.


Sorry, I remember you asking. I was going to respond, but got distracted
with a project I'm working on. The calcium deposit is below the water
line. I don't see any above the water line at all.

--
Maggie

On 7/24/2015 5:47 PM, J Burns wrote:
On 7/24/15 3:40 PM, notbob wrote:
On 2015-07-24, J Burns wrote:

In the 1990s, Bayer.....

Dirtbags from the git.

Isn't magnesium the med we need, but there's a limit to how much you
can buy as a supplement?

nb

I'm skeptical of pills. If the supplement gets to the intestine, it may
not be absorbed and may interfere with the absorption of calcium.

Fifteen years ago, people could see I was deathly I'll, and the cause
was a mystery. An endocrinologist (a PhD and not an MD) said my small
intestine was full of holes. He recommended cooked carrots with butter
for Vitamin A, and Epsom salt for magnesium.

In a few weeks I was better and quit the Epsom salt. After a couple of
months, my digestion was still fine, but I realized I was doing worse in
other ways. I resumed the Epsom salt and never regretted it.

If you took a teaspoon or two of Epsom salt, it would get to the
intestine and, by holding water, act as a laxative. My adviser
recommended 1/8 tsp in a glass of water 3 times a day. An eighth tsp is
only about 60 mg. The old RDA was 400 mg, and some say it should be
1000. That little bit in a glass of water isn't much to correct a
deficiency.

I began mixing 1/2 tsp per pint of water and keeping it in a clear
plastic sports bottle in the counter. Like an animal going to a salt
lick, I'd take a drink when I had a taste for magnesium. Typically, I
drink two bottles a day. That would be 500 mg, half the RDA some
recommend. The dilution helps my stomach absorb it quickly, like a shot
of liquor on an empty stomach. Come to think of it, it affects me a
little like liquor. I feel refreshed, relaxed, and energized.

Last Christmas, three different people gave me chocolate candy. For a
week or so, I ate a lot of candy. I noticed my thirst for magnesium
water shot up to about four bottles a day. One function of magnesium is
to get insulin into the cells, where it belongs, and more sugar requires
more insulin. I guess magnesium is lost in the process. If insulin has
trouble getting into the cells, that's insulin resistance, which leads
to diabetes.

I've never heard of drinking a dilution of Epsom salt before. Is it
something that only works for certain blood types, or something that's
common for everyone?

--
Maggie

On 7/24/15 5:59 PM, Muggles wrote:
On 7/24/2015 4:54 PM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
On 7/24/2015 5:13 PM, Muggles wrote:
On 7/24/2015 4:00 PM, J Burns wrote:

I repeated it whenever the toilet would be idle for a period of hours.
Sometimes I used CLR and sometimes vinegar. The cloudiness when I came
back and brushed showed that they both worked.

That cheap toilet has a corner at the very bottom. That was the last
spot to come clean. Some recommend muriatic acid, but I'd be afraid of
pitting the glazing.

I think I can get CLR at Wal-mart market, so I may try a combination of
things like you tried. Heck ... if anything works I'll be happy.


Of course, CLR is an evil wicked strong acid
that is responsible for the death of baby
kittens in Nigeria, on odd numbered Wednesdays.

I'd love to hear that you tried a strong acid,
found it worked nicely and might do it next
time. I've used HCl acid in my toilet bowl, and
it did clear up the calcium scale. Gave out some
fumes, which were nasty for a while. Sigh.

Does the CLR do the same with the nasty fumes?

Nah. Besides water, the main ingredient is glycolic acid. It's a little
stronger than the acetic acid in vinegar, but it's also an ingredient in
skin-care products.

On 7/24/15 8:40 PM, Muggles wrote:
On 7/24/2015 5:47 PM, J Burns wrote:
On 7/24/15 3:40 PM, notbob wrote:
On 2015-07-24, J Burns wrote:

In the 1990s, Bayer.....

Dirtbags from the git.

Isn't magnesium the med we need, but there's a limit to how much you
can buy as a supplement?

nb

I'm skeptical of pills. If the supplement gets to the intestine, it may
not be absorbed and may interfere with the absorption of calcium.

Fifteen years ago, people could see I was deathly I'll, and the cause
was a mystery. An endocrinologist (a PhD and not an MD) said my small
intestine was full of holes. He recommended cooked carrots with butter
for Vitamin A, and Epsom salt for magnesium.

In a few weeks I was better and quit the Epsom salt. After a couple of
months, my digestion was still fine, but I realized I was doing worse in
other ways. I resumed the Epsom salt and never regretted it.

If you took a teaspoon or two of Epsom salt, it would get to the
intestine and, by holding water, act as a laxative. My adviser
recommended 1/8 tsp in a glass of water 3 times a day. An eighth tsp is
only about 60 mg. The old RDA was 400 mg, and some say it should be
1000. That little bit in a glass of water isn't much to correct a
deficiency.

I began mixing 1/2 tsp per pint of water and keeping it in a clear
plastic sports bottle in the counter. Like an animal going to a salt
lick, I'd take a drink when I had a taste for magnesium. Typically, I
drink two bottles a day. That would be 500 mg, half the RDA some
recommend. The dilution helps my stomach absorb it quickly, like a shot
of liquor on an empty stomach. Come to think of it, it affects me a
little like liquor. I feel refreshed, relaxed, and energized.

Last Christmas, three different people gave me chocolate candy. For a
week or so, I ate a lot of candy. I noticed my thirst for magnesium
water shot up to about four bottles a day. One function of magnesium is
to get insulin into the cells, where it belongs, and more sugar requires
more insulin. I guess magnesium is lost in the process. If insulin has
trouble getting into the cells, that's insulin resistance, which leads
to diabetes.

I've never heard of drinking a dilution of Epsom salt before. Is it
something that only works for certain blood types, or something that's
common for everyone?

It's not common, but for many centuries, people have drunk mineral water
for their health. Magnesium seems to be the most important mineral in
mineral water. I think of my mix as homemade mineral water, just enough
magnesium to give it a taste that hits the spot.

People used to bathe in mineral springs for their health. Until the
last few decades, it was common to bathe in homemade mineral water:
Epsom salt in a bath tub. You can absorb it a lot faster that way than
by drinking. They joke that the only danger from all that magnesium is
that maybe it will be so relaxing that you'll fall asleep and drown.

A few years ago, I met my neighbor's father when he came in his pickup
truck to rake and haul away leaves. At 93, he was physically and
mentally as spry as any teen I've known. Later, my friend recalled that
every Saturday night, his father bathed in Epsom salt.

I read of a British experiment where the magnesium in subjects' urine
was tracked during a regimen of an Epsom salt bath every two days. (Or
was it four days?) IIRC, it took four baths for magnesium measurements
to level out. If excretion was less than intake for three big doses
(baths), it was taken to mean all subjects were quite deficient.

Doctors advise taking aspirin to reduce the chance of coronary
thrombosis. Research has shown that only buffered aspirin works.
What's the difference? Buffered aspirin has magnesium, which is vital
in regulating clotting. Why take aspirin, which could cause bleeding
problems, when magnesium won't?

On 7/24/2015 5:59 PM, Muggles wrote:
Of course, CLR is an evil wicked strong acid
that is responsible for the death of baby
kittens in Nigeria, on odd numbered Wednesdays.

I'd love to hear that you tried a strong acid,
found it worked nicely and might do it next
time. I've used HCl acid in my toilet bowl, and
it did clear up the calcium scale. Gave out some
fumes, which were nasty for a while. Sigh.

Does the CLR do the same with the nasty fumes?


I've never been fumed by CLR.

Nitric or hydrochloric, yes.

--
..
Christopher A. Young
learn more about Jesus
.. www.lds.org
..
..

On 7/24/2015 6:00 PM, Muggles wrote:
On 7/24/2015 4:55 PM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
On some occasions, the collective wisdom does
the job nicely.


I've learned a lot from just reading the group, and I appreciate the
help when I've asked questions.


Agree. I was impressed with all I learned about
garage door weather strip.

--
..
Christopher A. Young
learn more about Jesus
.. www.lds.org
..
..

On 7/24/15 12:54 AM, Robert Green wrote:
That's probably the reason because if it really is necessary to raise the
temp to 160F, then someone would have done it by now just as a selling
point. I wonder, though, since most dish/flat ware is non-porous if it is
actually just as good to thoroughly strip the surfaces of any particles. I
sent a lot of dishes back through that had dried egg on them, one of the
most mucilaginous substances in the world.

In the service, we were instructed to use four garbage cans to clean
mess kits. The first was to scrape garbage. The second was very hot
water with soap. We were told to use a sort of toilet brush. The third
had a hot disinfectant. The fourth had hot rinse water. In my
experience, they were boiling or close to it.

The 1977 manual simply says to dip it in water with any soap or
detergent at 130 F, then rinse 30 seconds in boiling water.

It also says to dip 3 seconds in boiling water before eating. wow! Ten
times longer to rinse off the detergent than to wash for eating! That's
what I don't like about using detergent in the sink.

We were instructed to be sure to get all the grease off, because germs
could grow there that could later cause food poisoning.

That's what I like about borax. As long as there's not a lot of grease,
like my greasy fingers, it's quick and thorough removing grease and
other stuff, and it doesn't even need hot water. There could be a stray
germ on a clean surface, but I figure what won't make me sick.

My riveted stainless ladle may be my Achilles heel in kitchen
sanitation. It can't be washed in a dishwasher because it has a wooden
handle. There are crannies where the handle is riveted to the bowl.

If there's a colony of pathogens in a cranny when I dip the ladle in
stew at 140 F on the stove, and the rest of the stew sits on the stove
awhile before I think it's cool enough to refrigerate, and it cools
slowly in the refrigerator, and I don't reboil it before eating it...
dirt I didn't notice in the ladle could cause food poisoning.

Borax seems to clean that ladle better than detergent.

Oh yes... a neighbor worked at a restaurant. Stuff that didn't go
through the dishwasher was sanitized in a deep sink with hot bleach
water. The health department would measure the concentration of bleach.
Bleach won't kill germs as well if there's too much.

On 7/24/2015 8:40 PM, J Burns wrote:
On 7/24/15 5:59 PM, Muggles wrote:
On 7/24/2015 4:54 PM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
On 7/24/2015 5:13 PM, Muggles wrote:
On 7/24/2015 4:00 PM, J Burns wrote:

I repeated it whenever the toilet would be idle for a period of
hours.
Sometimes I used CLR and sometimes vinegar. The cloudiness when I came
back and brushed showed that they both worked.

That cheap toilet has a corner at the very bottom. That was the last
spot to come clean. Some recommend muriatic acid, but I'd be afraid of
pitting the glazing.

I think I can get CLR at Wal-mart market, so I may try a combination of
things like you tried. Heck ... if anything works I'll be happy.


Of course, CLR is an evil wicked strong acid
that is responsible for the death of baby
kittens in Nigeria, on odd numbered Wednesdays.

I'd love to hear that you tried a strong acid,
found it worked nicely and might do it next
time. I've used HCl acid in my toilet bowl, and
it did clear up the calcium scale. Gave out some
fumes, which were nasty for a while. Sigh.

Does the CLR do the same with the nasty fumes?

Nah. Besides water, the main ingredient is glycolic acid. It's a little
stronger than the acetic acid in vinegar, but it's also an ingredient in
skin-care products.

ok... thanks for the info. I plan on going shopping some time tomorrow,
so I'll pick some up when I go.

--
Maggie

On 7/24/2015 9:18 PM, J Burns wrote:
On 7/24/15 8:40 PM, Muggles wrote:
On 7/24/2015 5:47 PM, J Burns wrote:
On 7/24/15 3:40 PM, notbob wrote:
On 2015-07-24, J Burns wrote:

In the 1990s, Bayer.....

Dirtbags from the git.

Isn't magnesium the med we need, but there's a limit to how much you
can buy as a supplement?

nb

I'm skeptical of pills. If the supplement gets to the intestine, it may
not be absorbed and may interfere with the absorption of calcium.

Fifteen years ago, people could see I was deathly I'll, and the cause
was a mystery. An endocrinologist (a PhD and not an MD) said my small
intestine was full of holes. He recommended cooked carrots with butter
for Vitamin A, and Epsom salt for magnesium.

In a few weeks I was better and quit the Epsom salt. After a couple of
months, my digestion was still fine, but I realized I was doing worse in
other ways. I resumed the Epsom salt and never regretted it.

If you took a teaspoon or two of Epsom salt, it would get to the
intestine and, by holding water, act as a laxative. My adviser
recommended 1/8 tsp in a glass of water 3 times a day. An eighth tsp is
only about 60 mg. The old RDA was 400 mg, and some say it should be
1000. That little bit in a glass of water isn't much to correct a
deficiency.

I began mixing 1/2 tsp per pint of water and keeping it in a clear
plastic sports bottle in the counter. Like an animal going to a salt
lick, I'd take a drink when I had a taste for magnesium. Typically, I
drink two bottles a day. That would be 500 mg, half the RDA some
recommend. The dilution helps my stomach absorb it quickly, like a shot
of liquor on an empty stomach. Come to think of it, it affects me a
little like liquor. I feel refreshed, relaxed, and energized.

Last Christmas, three different people gave me chocolate candy. For a
week or so, I ate a lot of candy. I noticed my thirst for magnesium
water shot up to about four bottles a day. One function of magnesium is
to get insulin into the cells, where it belongs, and more sugar requires
more insulin. I guess magnesium is lost in the process. If insulin has
trouble getting into the cells, that's insulin resistance, which leads
to diabetes.

I've never heard of drinking a dilution of Epsom salt before. Is it
something that only works for certain blood types, or something that's
common for everyone?

It's not common, but for many centuries, people have drunk mineral water
for their health. Magnesium seems to be the most important mineral in
mineral water. I think of my mix as homemade mineral water, just enough
magnesium to give it a taste that hits the spot.

People used to bathe in mineral springs for their health. Until the
last few decades, it was common to bathe in homemade mineral water:
Epsom salt in a bath tub. You can absorb it a lot faster that way than
by drinking. They joke that the only danger from all that magnesium is
that maybe it will be so relaxing that you'll fall asleep and drown.

No kidding? I'm going to have to try that because some nights I just
don't sleep well because of a painful bursitis in my hip. I hate taking
pain killers cuz they make me feel groggy the next morning. I think
I'll try it tonight, too. Thanks for the tip.

A few years ago, I met my neighbor's father when he came in his pickup
truck to rake and haul away leaves. At 93, he was physically and
mentally as spry as any teen I've known. Later, my friend recalled that
every Saturday night, his father bathed in Epsom salt.

I read of a British experiment where the magnesium in subjects' urine
was tracked during a regimen of an Epsom salt bath every two days. (Or
was it four days?) IIRC, it took four baths for magnesium measurements
to level out. If excretion was less than intake for three big doses
(baths), it was taken to mean all subjects were quite deficient.

Doctors advise taking aspirin to reduce the chance of coronary
thrombosis. Research has shown that only buffered aspirin works. What's
the difference? Buffered aspirin has magnesium, which is vital in
regulating clotting. Why take aspirin, which could cause bleeding
problems, when magnesium won't?

I've got some epsom salt, so I'll see how that works for me. I
appreciate the information.

--
Maggie

On 7/24/2015 9:39 PM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
On 7/24/2015 5:59 PM, Muggles wrote:
Of course, CLR is an evil wicked strong acid
that is responsible for the death of baby
kittens in Nigeria, on odd numbered Wednesdays.

I'd love to hear that you tried a strong acid,
found it worked nicely and might do it next
time. I've used HCl acid in my toilet bowl, and
it did clear up the calcium scale. Gave out some
fumes, which were nasty for a while. Sigh.

Does the CLR do the same with the nasty fumes?


I've never been fumed by CLR.

Nitric or hydrochloric, yes.


ok

--
Maggie

On 7/24/2015 9:40 PM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
On 7/24/2015 6:00 PM, Muggles wrote:
On 7/24/2015 4:55 PM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
On some occasions, the collective wisdom does
the job nicely.


I've learned a lot from just reading the group, and I appreciate the
help when I've asked questions.


Agree. I was impressed with all I learned about
garage door weather strip.


I've ventured out on my own and working on a project for my bathroom. I
need a shelf that's 36" x 4" and I couldn't find one like that, so I
bought myself a 1/2"x 36"x 4" pc of pine and sanded it by hand rounding
off the edges, today. I'm painting it, too, and it's drying now. The
problem is although the paint is dry to the touch the humidity is pretty
high here, even indoors. So, I put it near one of our AC units in hopes
that it would pull out the moisture from the board/paint/surroundings so
the paint would dry completely. I guess I'll see if that works by morning.

Do you have any other ideas on how to get the paint to dry in high
humidity? I know AC's work better by using the humidity in the air to
cool, but not sure if I'm on the right track or not with this painted shelf.

--
Maggie

On 7/24/15 5:14 PM, Oren wrote:
On Fri, 24 Jul 2015 17:00:34 -0400, J Burns
wrote:

On 7/24/15 2:29 PM, Muggles wrote:
I have this stubborn calcium deposit stuck to my toilet bowl, and I've
tried everything I can find off the store shelves that I'd normally
clean it with and nothing seems to work. I actually got some of it to
chip off, but it's a pain to even get that to come off. Is there
anything safe I can use that'll dissolve the calcium deposits that isn't
a nasty acid of some sort?

-- Maggie

What a coincidence! I bought a cheap low-flow toilet 19 years ago. I'd
use CLR and and the kind of abrasive pad that looks a little like an air
filter, to keep the rim clean, but it was only a few days ago that I
paid attention to the dark stains at the bottom.

I waited until I wouldn't need the toilet for a couple of hours. I shut
off the water, flushed, shoved in a brush to push some of the remaining
water out, and added a maybe 1/2 ounce of CLR. When I came back and
brushed, dark cloudiness showed it was working.

I discovered that 15 minutes after shutting off the water and flushing,
the bowl might be full again. Without much water in the tank to press
the flapper down, I guess it can seep.

I repeated it whenever the toilet would be idle for a period of hours.
Sometimes I used CLR and sometimes vinegar. The cloudiness when I came
back and brushed showed that they both worked.

That cheap toilet has a corner at the very bottom. That was the last
spot to come clean. Some recommend muriatic acid, but I'd be afraid of
pitting the glazing.

If the flush "throat" passage (my term) is not glazed in the toilet it
is a valid concern. I've not had a problem with MA in my former
rental homes or those I detailed for real estate agents.

MA has never harmed a glazing in a modern toilet, YMMV.

I wonder if it's possible to check the whole "windpipe" (most of it
invisible and above the water line), to assure smooth passage of
precious cargo. I also wonder if the whole windpipe in a cheap toilet is
glazed.

I'll see if Amazon sells those cameras proctologists use!

On 7/24/15 11:36 PM, Muggles wrote:



I've ventured out on my own and working on a project for my bathroom. I
need a shelf that's 36" x 4" and I couldn't find one like that, so I
bought myself a 1/2"x 36"x 4" pc of pine and sanded it by hand rounding
off the edges, today. I'm painting it, too, and it's drying now. The
problem is although the paint is dry to the touch the humidity is pretty
high here, even indoors. So, I put it near one of our AC units in hopes
that it would pull out the moisture from the board/paint/surroundings so
the paint would dry completely. I guess I'll see if that works by morning.

Do you have any other ideas on how to get the paint to dry in high
humidity? I know AC's work better by using the humidity in the air to
cool, but not sure if I'm on the right track or not with this painted shelf.

When the outdoor temperature warms up during the day, the relative
humidity will probably be lower outside than inside in the afternoon,
even if the moisture content (dew point) is a little higher outside.
Hotter air means lower relative humidity. The best place to dry
something is in the sun.

On 7/24/2015 10:53 PM, J Burns wrote:
On 7/24/15 11:36 PM, Muggles wrote:



I've ventured out on my own and working on a project for my bathroom. I
need a shelf that's 36" x 4" and I couldn't find one like that, so I
bought myself a 1/2"x 36"x 4" pc of pine and sanded it by hand rounding
off the edges, today. I'm painting it, too, and it's drying now. The
problem is although the paint is dry to the touch the humidity is pretty
high here, even indoors. So, I put it near one of our AC units in hopes
that it would pull out the moisture from the board/paint/surroundings so
the paint would dry completely. I guess I'll see if that works by
morning.

Do you have any other ideas on how to get the paint to dry in high
humidity? I know AC's work better by using the humidity in the air to
cool, but not sure if I'm on the right track or not with this painted
shelf.

When the outdoor temperature warms up during the day, the relative
humidity will probably be lower outside than inside in the afternoon,
even if the moisture content (dew point) is a little higher outside.
Hotter air means lower relative humidity. The best place to dry
something is in the sun.

ok If it's still not completely dry in the morning, I'll put it outside
in the sun. We have plenty of that to go around and high temps on top of
that.

--
Maggie

On 7/24/15 11:27 PM, Muggles wrote:
On 7/24/2015 9:18 PM, J Burns wrote:
On 7/24/15 8:40 PM, Muggles wrote:
On 7/24/2015 5:47 PM, J Burns wrote:
On 7/24/15 3:40 PM, notbob wrote:
On 2015-07-24, J Burns wrote:

In the 1990s, Bayer.....

Dirtbags from the git.

Isn't magnesium the med we need, but there's a limit to how much you
can buy as a supplement?

nb

I'm skeptical of pills. If the supplement gets to the intestine, it may
not be absorbed and may interfere with the absorption of calcium.

Fifteen years ago, people could see I was deathly I'll, and the cause
was a mystery. An endocrinologist (a PhD and not an MD) said my small
intestine was full of holes. He recommended cooked carrots with butter
for Vitamin A, and Epsom salt for magnesium.

In a few weeks I was better and quit the Epsom salt. After a couple of
months, my digestion was still fine, but I realized I was doing worse in
other ways. I resumed the Epsom salt and never regretted it.

If you took a teaspoon or two of Epsom salt, it would get to the
intestine and, by holding water, act as a laxative. My adviser
recommended 1/8 tsp in a glass of water 3 times a day. An eighth tsp is
only about 60 mg. The old RDA was 400 mg, and some say it should be
1000. That little bit in a glass of water isn't much to correct a
deficiency.

I began mixing 1/2 tsp per pint of water and keeping it in a clear
plastic sports bottle in the counter. Like an animal going to a salt
lick, I'd take a drink when I had a taste for magnesium. Typically, I
drink two bottles a day. That would be 500 mg, half the RDA some
recommend. The dilution helps my stomach absorb it quickly, like a shot
of liquor on an empty stomach. Come to think of it, it affects me a
little like liquor. I feel refreshed, relaxed, and energized.

Last Christmas, three different people gave me chocolate candy. For a
week or so, I ate a lot of candy. I noticed my thirst for magnesium
water shot up to about four bottles a day. One function of magnesium is
to get insulin into the cells, where it belongs, and more sugar requires
more insulin. I guess magnesium is lost in the process. If insulin has
trouble getting into the cells, that's insulin resistance, which leads
to diabetes.

I've never heard of drinking a dilution of Epsom salt before. Is it
something that only works for certain blood types, or something that's
common for everyone?

It's not common, but for many centuries, people have drunk mineral water
for their health. Magnesium seems to be the most important mineral in
mineral water. I think of my mix as homemade mineral water, just enough
magnesium to give it a taste that hits the spot.

People used to bathe in mineral springs for their health. Until the
last few decades, it was common to bathe in homemade mineral water:
Epsom salt in a bath tub. You can absorb it a lot faster that way than
by drinking. They joke that the only danger from all that magnesium is
that maybe it will be so relaxing that you'll fall asleep and drown.

No kidding? I'm going to have to try that because some nights I just
don't sleep well because of a painful bursitis in my hip. I hate taking
pain killers cuz they make me feel groggy the next morning. I think
I'll try it tonight, too. Thanks for the tip.

Years ago I persuaded my sister to try it. She raved about how much
energy it gave her in the morning. She said she was afraid to take any
after noon because something that potent would keep her awake all night.
I told her the same mineral that perks me up like coffee in the morning,
relaxes me like a nightcap at bedtime.

My brother contacted me in desperation. Doctors were prescribing
sedatives, but he hadn't been sleeping. I told him about Epsom salt.
If you're deficient in magnesium, your brain may have trouble switching
down to a rest mode. He tried it, quit the drugs, and raved about it.

My sister insisted on putting a little Epsom salt in her hand and
washing it down with water. Mixing Epsom salt in water worked well for
my brother, but he changed to pills because he felt that was the proper
way to take a supplement.

I think they're wrong. If you dilute it and drink it, it will reach your
blood quickly, and your body will associate the effects with the taste.
That way, it can tell you when more would be good, just as it tells you
how fast to breathe. Your consumption can vary according to your
requirement that day.

My aunt is a retired nurse. She began keeping a bottle on the counter
because I recommended it. She says she knows it's good because it tastes
better than tap water. That's why I drink it, too. It tastes good
because it had good effects.


A few years ago, I met my neighbor's father when he came in his pickup
truck to rake and haul away leaves. At 93, he was physically and
mentally as spry as any teen I've known. Later, my friend recalled that
every Saturday night, his father bathed in Epsom salt.

I read of a British experiment where the magnesium in subjects' urine
was tracked during a regimen of an Epsom salt bath every two days. (Or
was it four days?) IIRC, it took four baths for magnesium measurements
to level out. If excretion was less than intake for three big doses
(baths), it was taken to mean all subjects were quite deficient.

Doctors advise taking aspirin to reduce the chance of coronary
thrombosis. Research has shown that only buffered aspirin works. What's
the difference? Buffered aspirin has magnesium, which is vital in
regulating clotting. Why take aspirin, which could cause bleeding
problems, when magnesium won't?

I've got some epsom salt, so I'll see how that works for me. I
appreciate the information.

Most of what's for sale says USP. That means it's safe to swallow. USP
grade can have up to 1% impurities, IIRC, but they're known to be safe.
Periodically, I've used baking soda to clean out a brownish deposit in
the bottom of my bottle. I think maybe it came from iron in the Epsom salt.

My last container of Epsom salt was a four-pound Rexall bag. Recently I
started using a 1-pound Rexall bag. My first drink was a disappointment.
It tasted like tap water! In a couple of minutes I knew it was Epsom
salt because it had hit the spot. I guess what I've been tasting all
these years was a trace mineral in the Epsom salt. Maybe the Rexall salt
is now more purified, or maybe it comes from a different mine. I feel
like a beer drinker whose favorite brand is no longer available!

On 7/24/2015 11:22 PM, Muggles wrote:
On 7/24/2015 8:40 PM, J Burns wrote:

Does the CLR do the same with the nasty fumes?

Nah. Besides water, the main ingredient is glycolic acid. It's a little
stronger than the acetic acid in vinegar, but it's also an ingredient in
skin-care products.

ok... thanks for the info. I plan on going shopping some time tomorrow,
so I'll pick some up when I go.


And for those of us reading, please let us know
if the stuff works for you. Always nice to hear
from real people about real world experience.

--
..
Christopher A. Young
learn more about Jesus
.. www.lds.org
..
..

On 7/24/2015 11:38 PM, J Burns wrote:
I wonder if it's possible to check the whole "windpipe" (most of it
invisible and above the water line), to assure smooth passage of
precious cargo. I also wonder if the whole windpipe in a cheap toilet is
glazed.

I'll see if Amazon sells those cameras proctologists use!

If you wish, skip the inspection step and go
directly to closet auger.

--
..
Christopher A. Young
learn more about Jesus
.. www.lds.org
..
..

On 7/24/2015 11:36 PM, Muggles wrote:

I've ventured out on my own and working on a project for my bathroom. I
need a shelf that's 36" x 4" and I couldn't find one like that, so I
bought myself a 1/2"x 36"x 4" pc of pine and sanded it by hand rounding
off the edges, today. I'm painting it, too, and it's drying now. The
problem is although the paint is dry to the touch the humidity is pretty
high here, even indoors. So, I put it near one of our AC units in hopes
that it would pull out the moisture from the board/paint/surroundings so
the paint would dry completely. I guess I'll see if that works by morning.

Do you have any other ideas on how to get the paint to dry in high
humidity? I know AC's work better by using the humidity in the air to
cool, but not sure if I'm on the right track or not with this painted shelf.


My photo copier repair guy used to advise me to store
paper in a frost free refrigerator, dry worked better.
Less likely to do paper jams.

I think that using air conditioned air sounds perfect.

--
..
Christopher A. Young
learn more about Jesus
.. www.lds.org
..
..

On Friday, July 24, 2015 at 2:29:15 PM UTC-4, Muggles wrote:
On 7/24/2015 1:06 PM, J Burns wrote:
On 7/23/15 1:55 AM, Robert Green wrote:
"J Burns" wrote in message

stuff snipped

A paper towel costs 150 times more than a sheet of toilet paper. It's
harder to rip off the roll with one hand, and paper towels fill a waste
basket in a hurry . . .
I'm going to find me a pecan stick so I can use a couple of pieces of
wire to hang a toilet paper roll. Then I'll have a state-of-the-art
toilet-paper-and-borax kitchen.

I mounted a toilet paper roll inside a kitchen cabinet door for the same
reason: Keeping as much grease as possible from going into the drain.
Cheaper than paper towels, that's for sure.

Yeah, toilet tissue picks up grease better than water, and it takes up
very little space in the waste basket. Maybe I could sell those wads to
start charcoal fires!

I've been keeping a sprayer with borax by the sink a couple of months,
dispensing it several times a day. Last night I saw my first roach in a
long time. It was on the dining-room carpet. Their speed can be
frustrating for a hunter without a shotgun, so I got my sprayer and
turned the nozzle to squirt.

Borax won't hurt a carpet. It will kill a bug before long, but the
immediate effect is uncertain. It made him so slow that stepping on him
felt unsporting.

I have this stubborn calcium deposit stuck to my toilet bowl, and I've
tried everything I can find off the store shelves that I'd normally
clean it with and nothing seems to work. I actually got some of it to
chip off, but it's a pain to even get that to come off. Is there
anything safe I can use that'll dissolve the calcium deposits that isn't
a nasty acid of some sort?

--
Maggie

muriatic acid isnt nearly as hazardous as some believe.

pour some down the dip tube to clean the bowl rim

On Fri, 24 Jul 2015 19:36:38 -0500, Muggles wrote:

The calcium deposit is below the water
line. I don't see any above the water line at all.

You can remove water from the bowl down to just above the calcium
deposit and then pour in the CLR. I'd give plenty of time to work and
dissolve the spot, This, at the same time, ought to clean any calcium
on the bottom.

On 7/25/2015 8:15 AM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
On 7/24/2015 11:22 PM, Muggles wrote:
On 7/24/2015 8:40 PM, J Burns wrote:

Does the CLR do the same with the nasty fumes?

Nah. Besides water, the main ingredient is glycolic acid. It's a little
stronger than the acetic acid in vinegar, but it's also an ingredient in
skin-care products.

ok... thanks for the info. I plan on going shopping some time tomorrow,
so I'll pick some up when I go.


And for those of us reading, please let us know
if the stuff works for you. Always nice to hear
from real people about real world experience.


I sure will post the results. It'll be this afternoon before I get to
the store, though, so I'll probably try the product later today.

--
Maggie

On 7/25/2015 8:18 AM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
On 7/24/2015 11:36 PM, Muggles wrote:

I've ventured out on my own and working on a project for my bathroom. I
need a shelf that's 36" x 4" and I couldn't find one like that, so I
bought myself a 1/2"x 36"x 4" pc of pine and sanded it by hand rounding
off the edges, today. I'm painting it, too, and it's drying now. The
problem is although the paint is dry to the touch the humidity is pretty
high here, even indoors. So, I put it near one of our AC units in hopes
that it would pull out the moisture from the board/paint/surroundings so
the paint would dry completely. I guess I'll see if that works by
morning.

Do you have any other ideas on how to get the paint to dry in high
humidity? I know AC's work better by using the humidity in the air to
cool, but not sure if I'm on the right track or not with this painted
shelf.


My photo copier repair guy used to advise me to store
paper in a frost free refrigerator, dry worked better.
Less likely to do paper jams.

I think that using air conditioned air sounds perfect.


ok thanks ..

--
Maggie