Hi all,

Just heard on the Fox news that they reported a Home Depot store that
required (1) all inside signs had to have the Spanish equalivent under
the English heading and (2) it was against store policy to fly the
American flag anywhere on the store property.

Enough is enough about the illegal Mexicans but has anyone heard this
about HD ?

J

Joey wrote:
Hi all,

Just heard on the Fox news that they reported a Home Depot store that
required (1) all inside signs had to have the Spanish equalivent under
the English heading and (2) it was against store policy to fly the
American flag anywhere on the store property.

Enough is enough about the illegal Mexicans but has anyone heard this
about HD ?

The store is in Juarez and its name is Casa Depoto.

HeyBub wrote:
The store is in Juarez and its name is Casa Depoto.

Now THAT's funny.

yep...lowes is the same way...sometimes the spanish signs are more
prominant that the english signs....

Look on a lot of products now...Ive seen major appliances heating and
air equipment...everything from these major items down to a bar of soap
with spanish on them.'

Fat lazy americans refused to do the work...mexicans came in and did
the jobs for nothing....american fat cat businessmen love exploiting
this cheap labor....

nothing our government does will stop the invasion of illegal mexicans
in this country...and I dont think government really wants to stop the
massive immigration....large farms and the construction industry have
powerfull lobbyists too and you know they are greasing the palms of our
elected officials to get these mexicans here.

Joey wrote:
Hi all,

Just heard on the Fox news that they reported a Home Depot store that
required (1) all inside signs had to have the Spanish equalivent under
the English heading and (2) it was against store policy to fly the
American flag anywhere on the store property.

Enough is enough about the illegal Mexicans but has anyone heard this
about HD ?

J

Why do you think it has anything to do with illegal Mexicans. Home
Depot wants to meet their customer's needs. If they have Spanish speaking
customers, it only makes sense that they provide signs for them. How does
that hurt you? More business, more volume lower prices benefit you. Do you
think they are going to eliminate the English signs?

Relax.


--
Joseph Meehan

Dia duit

Why do you think it has anything to do with illegal Mexicans. Home
Depot wants to meet their customer's needs. If they have Spanish speaking
customers, it only makes sense that they provide signs for them. How does
that hurt you? More business, more volume lower prices benefit you. Do
you think they are going to eliminate the English signs?

Relax.


--
Joseph Meehan

Dia duit


This is America. English is spoken here. You want to speak your native
language, speak it at home amongst your friends and relatives. My parents,
their families and millions of others came here many years ago. They had to
learn the language and went to night schools to do so. They still spoke
their native tongues at home but learned to read and write English and
always spoke to the children in English. We have immigrants from many parts
of the world. Why not have signs in their languages? We have Russian,
Chinese, Korean, Vietnamese, etc. Why do we pander to the Hispanics? Why do
we have to pay for bilingual teachers to accomadate them when we can't
afford to hire English speaking teachers to educate our children?

twfsa wrote:
Its bad enough those *******s are here illegally, and now we have to cater
to them because there to ****in lazy to lean the language.


"Its"..."there"..."to"..."lean"....the irony is too rich to pass up in
this post.

Its bad enough those *******s are here illegally, and now we have to cater
to them because there to ****in lazy to lean the language.

Tom


"Joey" wrote in message
...
Hi all,

Just heard on the Fox news that they reported a Home Depot store that
required (1) all inside signs had to have the Spanish equalivent under the
English heading and (2) it was against store policy to fly the American
flag anywhere on the store property.

Enough is enough about the illegal Mexicans but has anyone heard this
about HD ?

J

"Brian Attwood" wrote in message
oups.com...
twfsa wrote:
Its bad enough those *******s are here illegally, and now we have to
cater
to them because there to ****in lazy to lean the language.


"Its"..."there"..."to"..."lean"....the irony is too rich to pass up in
this post.

Amen. Isn't the internet a terrific place to show off your language/spelling
skills?

In 1982 when I moved to Florida, my spouse decided that there was a store in
Hialeah near Miami that had just what she needed. There was a Home Depot
just across the way. I wanted to pick up some vents for the soffits in our
new house. There was no one in that store who spoke enough English to tell
me where they were.

Charlie


"Joey" wrote in message
...
Hi all,

Just heard on the Fox news that they reported a Home Depot store that
required (1) all inside signs had to have the Spanish equalivent under the
English heading and (2) it was against store policy to fly the American
flag anywhere on the store property.

Enough is enough about the illegal Mexicans but has anyone heard this
about HD ?

J

"JerryL" wrote in message
...
This is America. English is spoken here. You want to speak your native
language, speak it at home amongst your friends and relatives. My parents,
their families and millions of others came here many years ago. They had
to learn the language and went to night schools to do so. They still spoke
their native tongues at home but learned to read and write English and
always spoke to the children in English. We have immigrants from many
parts of the world. Why not have signs in their languages? We have
Russian, Chinese, Korean, Vietnamese, etc. Why do we pander to the
Hispanics? Why do we have to pay for bilingual teachers to accomadate them
when we can't afford to hire English speaking teachers to educate our
children?
I can tell you have never been to Chinatown in NYC. Street signs there are
bilingual.

Charlie

"JerryL" wrote in message
...
This is America. English is spoken here.

the Latinos that come here to the US are from "America". South America,
Central America. They speak other languages. I agree English is spoken
mostly in the US but we [US] don't own the word "America". We are all
"Americans" [yes that includes Canadians]
[soapbox mode off]

JerryL wrote:
....


This is America. English is spoken here. You want to speak your native
language, speak it at home amongst your friends and relatives.

So are many other languages spoken here. Why do you think only English
should be spoken here?

BTW my "native" language would be Irish Gaelic, but frankly I don't know
it well enough to speak it.

My
parents, their families and millions of others came here many years
ago. They had to learn the language and went to night schools to do
so.

So what did they do before they learned English? Most Spanish speakers
in the US are learning or already know English. However I see no reason to
demand it. It should be their choice. I believe the US is known as the land
of the free. That freedom I would guess should also include freedom of
speech and I don't recall the freedom of speech being restricted to English.

They still spoke their native tongues at home but learned to read
and write English and always spoke to the children in English. We
have immigrants from many parts of the world. Why not have signs in
their languages? We have Russian, Chinese, Korean, Vietnamese, etc.
Why do we pander to the Hispanics?

I have seen signs in Russian and some Asian languages in the US.

Why do we have to pay for
bilingual teachers to accomadate them when we can't afford to hire
English speaking teachers to educate our children?

That does sound hateful.

--
Joseph Meehan

Dia duit

twfsa wrote:
Its bad enough those *******s are here illegally, and now we have to
cater to them because there to ****in lazy to lean the language.

Tom

At least it has been my experience that there are more US B* that
foreign born ones. And they speak better than many US citizens.



"Joey" wrote in message
...
Hi all,

Just heard on the Fox news that they reported a Home Depot store that
required (1) all inside signs had to have the Spanish equalivent
under the English heading and (2) it was against store policy to fly
the American flag anywhere on the store property.

Enough is enough about the illegal Mexicans but has anyone heard this
about HD ?

J

--
Joseph Meehan

Dia duit

"Joseph Meehan" wrote in message
.. .
JerryL wrote:
...


This is America. English is spoken here. You want to speak your native
language, speak it at home amongst your friends and relatives.

So are many other languages spoken here. Why do you think only English
should be spoken here?

BTW my "native" language would be Irish Gaelic, but frankly I don't
know it well enough to speak it.

My
parents, their families and millions of others came here many years
ago. They had to learn the language and went to night schools to do
so.

So what did they do before they learned English? Most Spanish speakers
in the US are learning or already know English. However I see no reason to
demand it. It should be their choice. I believe the US is known as the
land of the free. That freedom I would guess should also include freedom
of speech and I don't recall the freedom of speech being restricted to
English.

They still spoke their native tongues at home but learned to read
and write English and always spoke to the children in English. We
have immigrants from many parts of the world. Why not have signs in
their languages? We have Russian, Chinese, Korean, Vietnamese, etc.
Why do we pander to the Hispanics?

I have seen signs in Russian and some Asian languages in the US.

Why do we have to pay for
bilingual teachers to accomadate them when we can't afford to hire
English speaking teachers to educate our children?

That does sound hateful.

--
Joseph Meehan

Dia duit


This is America. Love it or leave it. If you love it, learn to speak at
least conversational English within one year. If you can't, you are so
stupid that you won't make a good citizen anyway. There is no reason for us
to provide you with literature and signs in your native language.
Especially for those of you who have been here for ten years, and still
can't speak English.

Not hateful, just the facts, maam.

Steve

In article ,
"Joseph Meehan" wrote:

JerryL wrote:
...


This is America. English is spoken here. You want to speak your native
language, speak it at home amongst your friends and relatives.

So are many other languages spoken here. Why do you think only English
should be spoken here?

Because if people don't speak AT LEAST English, then they have more
problems getting around, communicating with people, etc. Heck even in
China, they are teaching almost everyone English as it is the language
of business and commerce.
Don't have any problem with people speaking Esperanto if they want
to amongst their friends, relatives, etc. But English is still the main
language and for assimilation purposes, people need to speak it.


So what did they do before they learned English? Most Spanish speakers
in the US are learning or already know English. However I see no reason to
demand it. It should be their choice. I believe the US is known as the land
of the free. That freedom I would guess should also include freedom of
speech and I don't recall the freedom of speech being restricted to
English.
How you get that, from the constitution, is beyond comprehension,.


Why do we have to pay for
bilingual teachers to accomadate them when we can't afford to hire
English speaking teachers to educate our children?

That does sound hateful.
There are a number of studies showing that getting non-English
speaking kids out of bilingual classes and into English only schools
increases their grades, etc. Bilingual teaching is a method of
ghettoization.

Immigrants whether illegal or legal have to realize that
english IS the common language here. If they want to
get ANYWHERE they need to speak it fluently. Otherwise
they'll ALWAYS be illegal workers that'll eventually
be a burden on the US TAX PAYER.

Business here is done in english, simple as that.
Offering educations in various languages without
priority given to english will screw lots of kids as
they grow up. Its good that colleges dont have to
obey the same crap public schools do.

I would love to see a Harvard professor have to translate
a lesson to paco because he cant speak english! BAHAHA

Speak your native tounge at home with your siblings/elders.
When out in public, talk the native language.

Business here is done in english, simple as that.
This is not very true for South Florida where Hispanics are in
majority. One poster mentioned HD in Hialeah; they still can't speak
English there, and they don't need to. There are stores with signs that
say "We speak English"

It's been reported that Hispanics will become the majority in U.S. in
not-so distant feature. It's going to be interesting to see if English
is still going to be the dominant language then...

Business here is done in english, simple as that.
This is not very true for South Florida where Hispanics are in
majority. One poster mentioned HD in Hialeah; they still can't speak
English there, and they don't need to. There are stores with signs that
say "We speak English"

It's been reported that Hispanics will become the majority in U.S. in
not-so distant feature. It's going to be interesting to see if English
is still going to be the dominant language then...

in not-so distant feature
future

"JerryL" wrote in message
...

My parents, their families and millions of others came here many years
ago. They had to learn the language and went to night schools to do so.

While they were learning, did they have servants to venture out into the
world for them to buy food, or did they find merchants who spoke their
native language?

"Steve B" wrote in message
news:mrvYf.11149$I%6.9566@fed1read12...

This is America. Love it or leave it. If you love it, learn to speak at
least conversational English within one year. If you can't, you are so
stupid that you won't make a good citizen anyway. There is no reason for
us to provide you with literature and signs in your native language.
Especially for those of you who have been here for ten years, and still
can't speak English.

Not hateful, just the facts, maam.

Steve

The "fact" is that the best time to learn language is from birth to age
8-ish, although some people have a unique knack for it for their entire
lives. New languages can be a bitch to learn, and lame attitudes toward
immigrants don't help at all. The best way to learn is through immersion -
being dumped right into a new language environment where you have no choice.

Just the facts. If you doubt them, call your nearest school and ask to speak
to an experienced speech therapist. You won't do that, though.

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
"JerryL" wrote in message
...

My parents, their families and millions of others came here many years
ago. They had to learn the language and went to night schools to do so.

While they were learning, did they have servants to venture out into the
world for them to buy food, or did they find merchants who spoke their
native language?

In those days, people with similar languages or that came from similar
countries used to settle in certain areas so that you could always find
someone that spoke your language. I remember as a kid going into stores and
when the storekeeper starting speaking their native tongue to my mother, she
would reply "Speak English or we will never learn how to".

The best way to learn is through immersion -
being dumped right into a new language environment where you have no
choice.

Exactly. Right now we are giving a choice and they are taking the easy way
out by only speaking their native tongue.

"twfsa" wrote in message
newszsYf.4594$fS6.3135@dukeread11...
Its bad enough those *******s are here illegally, and now we have to cater
to them because there to ****in lazy to lean the language.

Tom

Would you or your children be interested in picking vegetables for four or
five bucks an hour? How about cleaning hotel rooms, or washing dishes in
restaurant kitchens for minimum wage (if you're lucky)?

"JerryL" wrote in message
...

The best way to learn is through immersion -
being dumped right into a new language environment where you have no
choice.

Exactly. Right now we are giving a choice and they are taking the easy way
out by only speaking their native tongue.


Of course, that's an inaccurate observation, since you don't like these
people, so YOU don't interact with them at all.

This really has become a hot issue, hasn't it. I am sympathetic to
people who feel that laws ought to be enforced- even as I am dubious
about the practicality of it- are the Solons in D.C. capable of
passing anything that is realistic enough to be enforceable? Strongly
doubt that. People are drawn here by market forces- legally and
otherwise- and these incentives are not weak. Of course it could be
disorienting to find nobody who speaks English at an HD- but this
reflects the customer/ workforce market reality of that particular
location. Hispanic immigration is of course a big wave compared to
that from other areas, but these people do learn English- it is in
their interest, as others have noted. They don't always do so
immediately, but in 30 years they'll be complaining that their grankids
can barely speak Spanish. Remember, the U.S. has been through this
before- late 19/early 20 century. My best friend's Italian grandmother
never did learn to speak English, like many of her generation. Her
daughter was and granddaughter is a shoolteacher, and my friend an
exceptionally literate if underemployed bookstore employee.
I'm not against border control/ enforcement, but find myself
preaching market economics to conservatives, who are all for effective
governmental action. Actions which impact the market could have some
effect on illegal immigration- for example, strong enforcement of wage
and hour laws, reducing incentive for employers to hire illegals. Also,
a high gas tax, which could be rebated to federal tax filers through
some sort of credit, pushing us toward toward energy efficiency. Those
who don't file obviously wouldn't get rebate. Well, I'm probably just
stirring the coals with my "foolish liberal blather."
In general, it has seemed to me as I've gotten older that hypocrisy
makes the world go round; not the most uplifting thought, but it could
be a lot worse. Helped Oskar Schindler save some Jews froim the Nazis.
People imagine that if only we take such and such harsh, draconian
actions, we will finally have an orderly, controlled world, and all
will be hunky dory. I'm sure we could improve the situation- if we act
with some wisdom, some firmness, some compassion, but it's always going
to be a messy, disorderly world- thank god.

"JerryL" wrote in message
...

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
"JerryL" wrote in message
...

My parents, their families and millions of others came here many years
ago. They had to learn the language and went to night schools to do so.

While they were learning, did they have servants to venture out into the
world for them to buy food, or did they find merchants who spoke their
native language?

In those days, people with similar languages or that came from similar
countries used to settle in certain areas so that you could always find
someone that spoke your language. I remember as a kid going into stores
and when the storekeeper starting speaking their native tongue to my
mother, she would reply "Speak English or we will never learn how to".


Sadly, there are no Hispanic people like that. None. Absolutely none. Zip.

On Tue, 4 Apr 2006 09:16:27 -0400, "Charlie Bress"
wrote:

In 1982 when I moved to Florida, my spouse decided that there was a store in
Hialeah near Miami that had just what she needed. There was a Home Depot
just across the way. I wanted to pick up some vents for the soffits in our
new house. There was no one in that store who spoke enough English to tell
me where they were.

Charlie

And if you drove to Liberty City, they speak Ebonics sp. In the
early '80's English was voted as the official language in Dade County.
That was with a 45% population of Hispanics.

Ever talk to a computer tech in New Delhi?

Oren
"My doctor says I have a malformed public-duty gland
and a natural deficiency in moral fiber, and that I am therefore
excused from saving Universes."

wrote in message
ups.com...
Immigrants whether illegal or legal have to realize that
english IS the common language here. If they want to
get ANYWHERE they need to speak it fluently. Otherwise
they'll ALWAYS be illegal workers that'll eventually
be a burden on the US TAX PAYER.

Business here is done in english, simple as that.
Offering educations in various languages without
priority given to english will screw lots of kids as
they grow up. Its good that colleges dont have to
obey the same crap public schools do.

I would love to see a Harvard professor have to translate
a lesson to paco because he cant speak english! BAHAHA

Speak your native tounge at home with your siblings/elders.
When out in public, talk the native language.


I am 57 years old. I have heard story after story of people (mostly my
father's generation) of kids that were punished for speaking anything but
English. The parents would learn from their children bringing English into
the homes. They wanted their children to be AMERICANS. Not
HYPHEN-AMERICANS!


Steve

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
"Steve B" wrote in message
news:mrvYf.11149$I%6.9566@fed1read12...

This is America. Love it or leave it. If you love it, learn to speak at
least conversational English within one year. If you can't, you are so
stupid that you won't make a good citizen anyway. There is no reason for
us to provide you with literature and signs in your native language.
Especially for those of you who have been here for ten years, and still
can't speak English.

Not hateful, just the facts, maam.

Steve

The "fact" is that the best time to learn language is from birth to age
8-ish, although some people have a unique knack for it for their entire
lives. New languages can be a bitch to learn, and lame attitudes toward
immigrants don't help at all. The best way to learn is through immersion -
being dumped right into a new language environment where you have no
choice.

Just the facts. If you doubt them, call your nearest school and ask to
speak to an experienced speech therapist. You won't do that, though.


What the **** is that supposed to mean? You won't do that?

FYI, retard, I'm currently in Spanish lessons. I feel this is necessary.
So would I if I was planning an extended trip to a Spanish speaking country.

Steve

"Doug Kanter" wrote

Would you or your children be interested in picking vegetables for four or
five bucks an hour? How about cleaning hotel rooms, or washing dishes in
restaurant kitchens for minimum wage (if you're lucky)?


If they wouldn't learn English, I would not expect any more of them than
that.

Steve

"Steve B" wrote in message
news:E0xYf.11157$I%6.1573@fed1read12...

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
"Steve B" wrote in message
news:mrvYf.11149$I%6.9566@fed1read12...

This is America. Love it or leave it. If you love it, learn to speak
at least conversational English within one year. If you can't, you are
so stupid that you won't make a good citizen anyway. There is no reason
for us to provide you with literature and signs in your native language.
Especially for those of you who have been here for ten years, and still
can't speak English.

Not hateful, just the facts, maam.

Steve

The "fact" is that the best time to learn language is from birth to age
8-ish, although some people have a unique knack for it for their entire
lives. New languages can be a bitch to learn, and lame attitudes toward
immigrants don't help at all. The best way to learn is through
immersion - being dumped right into a new language environment where you
have no choice.

Just the facts. If you doubt them, call your nearest school and ask to
speak to an experienced speech therapist. You won't do that, though.


What the **** is that supposed to mean? You won't do that?

FYI, retard, I'm currently in Spanish lessons. I feel this is necessary.
So would I if I was planning an extended trip to a Spanish speaking
country.

Steve


What it means that I doubt you'll actually pick up the phone and ask to
speak to a speech therapist about why it takes longer (or forever) for
adults to pick up a second language.

By the way, here's a response that's not allowed - it's already been crushed
in lots of other identical discussions: "I'm taking language lessons, and
they can, too". It's not always true, for any number of obvious reasons.

"Steve B" wrote in message
news:i2xYf.11159$I%6.2843@fed1read12...

"Doug Kanter" wrote

Would you or your children be interested in picking vegetables for four
or five bucks an hour? How about cleaning hotel rooms, or washing dishes
in restaurant kitchens for minimum wage (if you're lucky)?


If they wouldn't learn English, I would not expect any more of them than
that.

Steve


That's not the point! If we do what some would like, and eliminate or
severely curtail the flow of "illegals" into this country, how do you think
we'd replace the labor that they're willing to do? Or, to put it another
way, your 16 year old kid says "Dad, I just got a job. I'll be bent over in
the sun for 10 hours a day, swinging a very sharp knife at brocolli stems
right near my ankles. The crops are sprayed with some sort of chemical a few
days before they're picked, but the guy at the interview said the stuff was
safe to touch. It's four bucks an hour".

You OK with this scenario?

In article ,

That's not the point! If we do what some would like, and eliminate or
severely curtail the flow of "illegals" into this country, how do you think
we'd replace the labor that they're willing to do? Or, to put it another
way, your 16 year old kid says "Dad, I just got a job. I'll be bent over in
the sun for 10 hours a day, swinging a very sharp knife at brocolli stems
right near my ankles. The crops are sprayed with some sort of chemical a few
days before they're picked, but the guy at the interview said the stuff was
safe to touch. It's four bucks an hour".

You OK with this scenario?

This is BS. Four things would happen. For some of the jobs, Americans
would fill them at the same wage. For others, Americans would fill them
for more money (and the costs of those would go up). Some would be to a
greater or lesser degree mechanized and the rest would disappear.
Probably the latter would be mechanized.

When the illegal immigrants get their guest worker status (as
proposed), and later GC/citizenship, it's very unlikely that they are
going to stay in these jobs...

"Kurt Ullman" wrote in message
...
In article ,

That's not the point! If we do what some would like, and eliminate or
severely curtail the flow of "illegals" into this country, how do you
think
we'd replace the labor that they're willing to do? Or, to put it another
way, your 16 year old kid says "Dad, I just got a job. I'll be bent over
in
the sun for 10 hours a day, swinging a very sharp knife at brocolli stems
right near my ankles. The crops are sprayed with some sort of chemical a
few
days before they're picked, but the guy at the interview said the stuff
was
safe to touch. It's four bucks an hour".

You OK with this scenario?

This is BS. Four things would happen. For some of the jobs, Americans
would fill them at the same wage. For others, Americans would fill them
for more money (and the costs of those would go up). Some would be to a
greater or lesser degree mechanized and the rest would disappear.
Probably the latter would be mechanized.

Mechanized: No. Some crops cannot be harvested by machines. If they could,
John Deere would already have machines to do it, and farmers would be
delighted to own them.

As far as costs rising, you've got that right. I suspect it would be
disastrous, especially for people who already have a hard time affording
decent food. How about $5.00 a pound for lettuce, instead of the usual $1.00
to $3.00? We're already in for a big surprise in the grocery business if oil
keeps rising in price. Three years ago, freight rates were in the range of
$1.25 to $1.50 per mile. Now, they're $1.75 to $2.75, depending on direction
of travel and the availability of backhauls.

In article ,

Mechanized: No. Some crops cannot be harvested by machines. If they could,
John Deere would already have machines to do it, and farmers would be
delighted to own them.

Not if there are methods to do so that are cheaper/more available.
There is no incentive to look precisely because the other way is
available. Illegal immigration that is studiously ignored by government
essentially is a subsidy to farmers.
It is Econ 101.

As far as costs rising, you've got that right. I suspect it would be
disastrous, especially for people who already have a hard time affording
decent food. How about $5.00 a pound for lettuce, instead of the usual $1.00
to $3.00? We're already in for a big surprise in the grocery business if oil
keeps rising in price. Three years ago, freight rates were in the range of
$1.25 to $1.50 per mile. Now, they're $1.75 to $2.75, depending on direction
of travel and the availability of backhauls.

How about "Dogs and cats. Living together!" So it is okay if
the illegal immigrants work at slave labor in areas that you suggested
in your last post are chemically dangerous for artificially low wages so
you can save a couple cents on lettuce.

"Kurt Ullman" wrote in message
...
In article ,

Mechanized: No. Some crops cannot be harvested by machines. If they
could,
John Deere would already have machines to do it, and farmers would be
delighted to own them.

Not if there are methods to do so that are cheaper/more available.
There is no incentive to look precisely because the other way is
available. Illegal immigration that is studiously ignored by government
essentially is a subsidy to farmers.
It is Econ 101.

Possible for some crops, but the fact remains that there *are* some which
are simply too delicate to be managed with machinery.



As far as costs rising, you've got that right. I suspect it would be
disastrous, especially for people who already have a hard time affording
decent food. How about $5.00 a pound for lettuce, instead of the usual
$1.00
to $3.00? We're already in for a big surprise in the grocery business if
oil
keeps rising in price. Three years ago, freight rates were in the range
of
$1.25 to $1.50 per mile. Now, they're $1.75 to $2.75, depending on
direction
of travel and the availability of backhauls.



How about "Dogs and cats. Living together!" So it is okay if
the illegal immigrants work at slave labor in areas that you suggested
in your last post are chemically dangerous for artificially low wages so
you can save a couple cents on lettuce.

I didn't say it was OK - I said it's a fact of life at the moment. If
Mexicans didn't think this work was better than what's available to them at
home, they wouldn't come here. As far as chemicals, that's a whole different
topic we shouldn't get any deeper into. It's enough to say that the problem
exists because people are paid to let it exist, and it would be a problem
regardless of who was doing the vegetable picking.

Steve B wrote:
"Joseph Meehan" wrote in message
.. .
JerryL wrote:
...


This is America. English is spoken here. You want to speak your
native language, speak it at home amongst your friends and
relatives.

So are many other languages spoken here. Why do you think only
English should be spoken here?

BTW my "native" language would be Irish Gaelic, but frankly I
don't know it well enough to speak it.

My
parents, their families and millions of others came here many years
ago. They had to learn the language and went to night schools to do
so.

So what did they do before they learned English? Most Spanish
speakers in the US are learning or already know English. However I
see no reason to demand it. It should be their choice. I believe
the US is known as the land of the free. That freedom I would guess
should also include freedom of speech and I don't recall the freedom
of speech being restricted to English.

They still spoke their native tongues at home but learned to read
and write English and always spoke to the children in English. We
have immigrants from many parts of the world. Why not have signs in
their languages? We have Russian, Chinese, Korean, Vietnamese, etc.
Why do we pander to the Hispanics?

I have seen signs in Russian and some Asian languages in the US.

Why do we have to pay for
bilingual teachers to accomadate them when we can't afford to hire
English speaking teachers to educate our children?

That does sound hateful.

--
Joseph Meehan

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This is America. Love it or leave it.

Good idea, maybe you should leave? Why do you want those who disagree
with your prejudice should leave?

If you love it, learn to
speak at least conversational English within one year.

So you think it is wrong to offer signs in Spanish for those who are
hear less than one year?

If you can't,
you are so stupid that you won't make a good citizen anyway.

If we think you are not a good citizen, should we tell you to leave?

There
is no reason for us to provide you with literature and signs in your
native language.

The question was about Home Depot providing the signs. No one is asking
you to. Why do you feel the way you do? Do you fear something.

Especially for those of you who have been here for
ten years, and still can't speak English.

Not hateful, just the facts, maam.

How is your opinion that certain people should leave a fact? It may be
a fact that someone does not know English, but what that means about their
right to remain in this country is opinion not fact. Do you need a
definition of fact in another language?


Steve

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Joseph Meehan

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