Joey wrote:
Joseph Meehan wrote:
Joey wrote:

Hi all,

Just heard on the Fox news that they reported a Home Depot store that
required (1) all inside signs had to have the Spanish equalivent
under the English heading and (2) it was against store policy to fly
the American flag anywhere on the store property.

Enough is enough about the illegal Mexicans but has anyone heard this
about HD ?

J


Why do you think it has anything to do with illegal Mexicans. Home
Depot wants to meet their customer's needs. If they have
Spanish speaking customers, it only makes sense that they provide
signs for them. How does that hurt you? More business, more volume
lower prices benefit you. Do you think they are going to eliminate
the English signs?
Relax.



Joseph,

I have to agree with the majority here, they should learn English and
be here legally.

I would agree. If someone who did not speak English and lived here, I
would advise them to learn English as it would benefit them. I would not
want to force them to do so, but I do believe it would be a good idea for
them to decide to do so.

I also agree they should be here legally. However I believe that the
problem is caused primarily by the US immigration laws.

Someone wrote lettace would go up to $3 from $1,
well that's OK if their unpaid medical bills go down from $1000's to
zero. By the way, I went by my HD here in S.GA and proud to report
that a large US flag is flying in the center top of the building and
I didn't really notice any Spanish on the signs inside.......Thank
God !!!!
J

I can understand your pride in the flag, after all I can comment
publicly about my views on this subject in the US, something I would not be
able to do everywhere, but why pride in not having any Spanish signs?


--
Joseph Meehan

Dia duit

MikeP wrote:
In article ,
says...

Not if there are methods to do so that are cheaper/more
available. There is no incentive to look precisely because the
other way is available. Illegal immigration that is studiously
ignored by government essentially is a subsidy to farmers.
It is Econ 101.

Possible for some crops, but the fact remains that there *are* some
which are simply too delicate to be managed with machinery.

Name one crop that can not be managed with machinery
that is *required* for adequate human nutrition.

So you want to limit it to only crops "required" for "adequate" human
nutrition. Since there are so many alternatives, that would eliminate all
foods. Maybe time for a reality check.

--
Joseph Meehan

Dia duit

MikeP wrote:
In article ,
says...
"twfsa" wrote in message
newszsYf.4594$fS6.3135@dukeread11...
Its bad enough those *******s are here illegally, and now we have
to cater to them because there to ****in lazy to lean the language.

Tom

Would you or your children be interested in picking vegetables for
four or five bucks an hour? How about cleaning hotel rooms, or
washing dishes in restaurant kitchens for minimum wage (if you're
lucky)?



Nope, they have learned English and other skills that
are important to America's society/economy.

Important to an individual living and working in much of the American
society and economy, but I am not all that sure it is very important to the
American economy.

--
Joseph Meehan

Dia duit

Walter R. wrote:
Maybe a different perspective would be helpful

Most of the Western US were taken by the US from Mexico by Force.


How un-American. Killing native Americans, waging war to take lands, or
making preemptive war to secure oil is not something you are suppose to talk
about. It is not being a good American. At least it is not being a good
American if you don't believe that we as citizens have a responsibility to
be willing to question our government, not just accept it.

--
Joseph Meehan

Dia duit

In article , "grabbitt" wrote:

"George E. Cawthon" wrote in message
...

Apparently you confuse the names of countries and the names of continents.
I suppose that you think a South African means anyone living south of the
Sahara Desert. Ok, now I quit rolling with the pigs.

no I would call that person an African. get it yet? if you are born in
Africa you are an African. That's not too hard for you to understand is it?
Russia= Russian.
Europe=European, America=American.
Apparently you went to a govt school.

There is no continent called "America". Apparently, you didn't go to school at
all.

You're also apparently unaware that there are several nations whose official
names are "The United States of ...", of which the USA is only one. There are
also the United States of Mexico, and the United States of Brazil -- and the
citizens of the two are called "Mexicans" and "Brazilians" respectively.
People who live in the United States of America are "Americans".

Get it now?

I'd love to listen to you trying to convince a Canadian that he's an
"American". It would be even more entertaining to hear you trying to persuade
him that he's wrong, when he tells you he isn't.


--
Regards,
Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)

It's time to throw all their damned tea in the harbor again.

Doug Miller wrote:
In article , "grabbitt" wrote:

"George E. Cawthon" wrote in message
...

Apparently you confuse the names of countries and the names of continents.
I suppose that you think a South African means anyone living south of the
Sahara Desert. Ok, now I quit rolling with the pigs.

no I would call that person an African. get it yet? if you are born in
Africa you are an African. That's not too hard for you to understand is it?
Russia= Russian.
Europe=European, America=American.
Apparently you went to a govt school.


There is no continent called "America". Apparently, you didn't go to school at
all.

You're also apparently unaware that there are several nations whose official
names are "The United States of ...", of which the USA is only one. There are
also the United States of Mexico, and the United States of Brazil -- and the
citizens of the two are called "Mexicans" and "Brazilians" respectively.
People who live in the United States of America are "Americans".

Get it now?

I'd love to listen to you trying to convince a Canadian that he's an
"American". It would be even more entertaining to hear you trying to persuade
him that he's wrong, when he tells you he isn't.



Well I talked to some young Canadians some years ago who could not seem
to understand WHY Canada was not a part the USA!!! Ok, the French
Canadians would NOT stand still for this not for one second. But the
economies of Canada and the USA are so tightly bound, if we catch a
cold, they come down with the flu. If they start to have real problems,
we see the effects in the American economy.

This is the NAFTA argument. Reducing trade barriers between
Canada/USA/Mexico opens up new opportunities, more jobs, EVERYWHERE.

George E. Cawthon wrote:
grabbitt wrote:

"George E. Cawthon" wrote in message
...

Apparently you confuse the names of countries and the names of
continents. I suppose that you think a South African means anyone
living south of the Sahara Desert. Ok, now I quit rolling with the
pigs.



no I would call that person an African. get it yet? if you are born
in Africa you are an African. That's not too hard for you to
understand is it? Russia= Russian.
Europe=European, America=American.
Apparently you went to a govt school.


No, I went to geography class. South Africa is a country.

Lets see. Russian refers to a citizen or resident of a country.
European refers to a resident of a continent, could be any of several
different countries. American refers to a resident of a continent, but
which one?.

That's obvious, N or S; see that wasn't so hard, was it?


By the way, what the hell is Gov't school? Most schools in the U.S.A.
are public schools, is that what you mean by gov't school?

obviously


Another BTW, your first statement is in obvious error. Lots of people
born in Africa were and remain, English, French, and German, all of
which could be considered European. And of course, lots of people born
in Africa of native parents or citizens of countries in Africa have
moved to other continents and become citizens of other countries and
would not be considered African. I'm not sure how you construct a more
untrue statement.

that's so convoluted I am as confused as you are now. A person born in
Africa is a European? Govt School for sure.

Doug Miller wrote:



There is no continent called "America". Apparently, you didn't go to school at
all.

never heard of N and S America, eh?

You're also apparently unaware that there are several nations whose official
names are "The United States of ...", of which the USA is only one. There are
also the United States of Mexico, and the United States of Brazil -- and the
citizens of the two are called "Mexicans" and "Brazilians" respectively.
People who live in the United States of America are "Americans".


accroding to your convoluted description then they are all Americans.
they are all Americans, get it now?
if you wish to be more descriptive then they are Mexicans, Brazilians,
and US citizens
Get it now?

I'd love to listen to you trying to convince a Canadian that he's an
"American". It would be even more entertaining to hear you trying to persuade
him that he's wrong, when he tells you he isn't.

so now you're saying Canada is not in N America?
Govt schools again.

"Spike2" wrote in message
...

By the way, what the hell is Gov't school? Most schools in the U.S.A.
are public schools, is that what you mean by gov't school?

obviously

And which immensely superior school do you believe you attended?

"Spike2" wrote in message
...
Doug Miller wrote:



There is no continent called "America". Apparently, you didn't go to
school at all.

never heard of N and S America, eh?

You're also apparently unaware that there are several nations whose
official names are "The United States of ...", of which the USA is only
one. There are also the United States of Mexico, and the United States of
Brazil -- and the citizens of the two are called "Mexicans" and
"Brazilians" respectively. People who live in the United States of
America are "Americans".


accroding to your convoluted description then they are all Americans.
they are all Americans, get it now?
if you wish to be more descriptive then they are Mexicans, Brazilians, and
US citizens
Get it now?

I'd love to listen to you trying to convince a Canadian that he's an
"American". It would be even more entertaining to hear you trying to
persuade him that he's wrong, when he tells you he isn't.

so now you're saying Canada is not in N America?
Govt schools again.

How old are you?

"MikeP" wrote in message
bal.net...
In article EEyYf.78212$UZ5.35382
@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com,
says...
While they were learning, did they have servants to venture out
into the world for them to buy food, or did they find merchants who
spoke their native language?

In those days, people with similar languages or that came from
similar countries used to settle in certain areas so that you could
always find someone that spoke your language. I remember as a kid
going into stores and when the storekeeper starting speaking their
native tongue to my mother, she would reply "Speak English or we
will never learn how to".

Sadly, there are no Hispanic people like that. None. Absolutely none.
Zip.

Spoken like a true bigot.

Bigot .... uncalled for.

You've missed an entire piece of this discussion, including the point where
I said that my remark was sarcasm. Set up your news reader to follow the
thread.

"MikeP" wrote in message
bal.net...
In article qnDYf.80108$UZ5.14323
@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com,
says...

If you can't communicate with people,then you can't understand
them,cannot come to common ground.
Just get in a collision with a person who speaks no English,how can
you determine if they are hurt,or get DL and insurance data?
(if they have it at all,chances are that they won't.)

I've had to deal with enough Hispanics with little or no English.

Funny, that has never happened to me. I have never consider it a
problem when I have been in countries where I did not understand the
local language. I have always managed to get by.


Really? How were you at job interviews, or explaining your sick
children's symptoms and medical history to an emergency room doctor?

Gee, I don't think it is likely to happen often in the US. Do you?

Non English speaking people place a huge burden on
hospital emergency rooms in California, Texas, Florida,
New York, Illinois, Arizona .... happens thousands of
times a day.

My personal experience involving a car accident. She
spoke prefect English when she asked to use my cell
phone. When the police arrived she 'claimed' not to
speak English. Later she delayed the insurance
investigators by 'claiming' not to speak English. Her
land lord only spoke English, her employer only spoke
English and her boy friend only spoke English.... go
figure.


I suppose that one example is indicative of a trend, eh?

"MikeP" wrote in message
bal.net...
In article ,
says...
"JerryL" wrote in message
...

My parents, their families and millions of others came here many years
ago. They had to learn the language and went to night schools to do so.

While they were learning, did they have servants to venture out into the
world for them to buy food, or did they find merchants who spoke their
native language?


Mine, like most, had nether servants or merchants who
spoke their native language.

Neither did mine. As a result, I'm pretty happy that there were merchants
who displayed some information in other languages (which, in case everyone's
forgotten, was the original subject of this discussion - Home Depot's Great
Sin).

"Joey" wrote in message
...

I have to agree with the majority here, they should learn English and be
here legally. Someone wrote lettace would go up to $3 from $1, well
that's OK if their unpaid medical bills go down from $1000's to zero.
By the way, I went by my HD here in S.GA and proud to report that a large
US flag is flying in the center top of the building and I didn't really
notice any Spanish on the signs inside.......Thank God !!!!

Hopefully, we'll soon see a merger between Kroger and Blue Cross/Blue
Shield, and all will be well in the farm business.

????????????????????

"MikeP" wrote in message
bal.net...
In article ,
says...

Not if there are methods to do so that are cheaper/more available.
There is no incentive to look precisely because the other way is
available. Illegal immigration that is studiously ignored by government
essentially is a subsidy to farmers.
It is Econ 101.

Possible for some crops, but the fact remains that there *are* some which
are simply too delicate to be managed with machinery.

Name one crop that can not be managed with machinery
that is *required* for adequate human nutrition.

That bit about "required" is ridiculous. Do you think that if we suddenly
had a huge shortage of farm laborers, people would suddenly be prepared to
do without half the produce they're accustomed to eating?

But, I'll humor you anyway and give you a bit of an education, since you're
obviously not a gardener. There's a large category of plants which continue
producing after the first harvest. Tomatoes, cucumbers and summer squash are
three examples. And, the parts we harvest are tender and can't be beat up by
a machine. If you need to know more about this, go to Google, and search for
the words "cooperative extension" along with the name of your state. Find a
phone number and call them.

"MikeP" wrote in message
bal.net...
In article ,
says...
"twfsa" wrote in message
newszsYf.4594$fS6.3135@dukeread11...
Its bad enough those *******s are here illegally, and now we have to
cater
to them because there to ****in lazy to lean the language.

Tom

Would you or your children be interested in picking vegetables for four
or
five bucks an hour? How about cleaning hotel rooms, or washing dishes in
restaurant kitchens for minimum wage (if you're lucky)?



Nope, they have learned English and other skills that
are important to America's society/economy.


Illogical, but I'll play anyway. Let's say that by some miracle, all
immigrants were infused with perfect English skills as they crossed the
border. Since you've said that language is the key to better jobs, perhaps
none of these people would accept farm jobs. Who do you think would fill the
void?

"MikeP" wrote in message
bal.net...
In article ,
says...

If I had no other way to feed my family, yes I'd work for 4 or 5 bucks
an
hour. No, it's better a portion of our society has the mentality not to
work for minimum wages so they sponge off the rest of the taxpayers by
collecting welfare. If they were told they have to do these jobs before
they received all the freebies they get then we'd have people to do
those
jobs.


If, by some miracle, all "illegal" immigrants were stopped at border, or
deported, you and/or your kids would have no choice but to take these
farm
jobs, eventually, unless you thing cucumbers are going to dance into
baskets
without help. THAT is the point here. Give most teens the choice of
working
in a nice air conditioned supermarket, or breaking their backs in a
field,
and I'm pretty sure they'll choose the supermarket (or mall, etc).

Lots of IFs, assumptions, emotions and lack of
supporting facts in the above post.


You want supporting facts? Do you live anywhere near farms which use
seasonal laborers? Stop by during the harvest season and ask the farmer or
foreman if you can talk to some of the "American" kids from the surrounding
school districts. You'll be lucky to find any.

I think you may be living in a squeaky clean world, and you've never
actually seen how your food gets to the supermarket.

Doug Kanter wrote:
"Spike2" wrote in message
...

Doug Miller wrote:



There is no continent called "America". Apparently, you didn't go to
school at all.

never heard of N and S America, eh?

You're also apparently unaware that there are several nations whose
official names are "The United States of ...", of which the USA is only
one. There are also the United States of Mexico, and the United States of
Brazil -- and the citizens of the two are called "Mexicans" and
"Brazilians" respectively. People who live in the United States of
America are "Americans".


accroding to your convoluted description then they are all Americans.
they are all Americans, get it now?
if you wish to be more descriptive then they are Mexicans, Brazilians, and
US citizens

Get it now?

I'd love to listen to you trying to convince a Canadian that he's an
"American". It would be even more entertaining to hear you trying to
persuade him that he's wrong, when he tells you he isn't.

so now you're saying Canada is not in N America?
Govt schools again.


How old are you?


what's your IQ?

Doug Kanter wrote:
"Spike2" wrote in message
...


By the way, what the hell is Gov't school? Most schools in the U.S.A.
are public schools, is that what you mean by gov't school?

obviously


And which immensely superior school do you believe you attended?


the school of hard knocks.

"Spike2" wrote in message
...
Doug Kanter wrote:
"Spike2" wrote in message
...


By the way, what the hell is Gov't school? Most schools in the U.S.A.
are public schools, is that what you mean by gov't school?

obviously


And which immensely superior school do you believe you attended?
the school of hard knocks.


It appears you've lost any traction you believed you had earlier in this
discussion.

In article ,
"Doug Kanter" wrote:


I suppose that one example is indicative of a trend, eh?

So is the appropriate smart-ass remark "Anecdote is not the same as
data" or some admonishment about the futility of n=1 studies (g).

"Kurt Ullman" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"Doug Kanter" wrote:


I suppose that one example is indicative of a trend, eh?

So is the appropriate smart-ass remark "Anecdote is not the same as
data" or some admonishment about the futility of n=1 studies (g).


.....which leads one to wonder where reasoning skills come from. Parents?
Schools? The passage of years?

In article ,
"Doug Kanter" wrote:

Illogical, but I'll play anyway. Let's say that by some miracle, all
immigrants were infused with perfect English skills as they crossed the
border. Since you've said that language is the key to better jobs, perhaps
none of these people would accept farm jobs. Who do you think would fill the
void?

Talk about illogical. First of all no one is suggesting that everyone
will know upon arrival. That was never a requirement in any of the other
great waves of immigration. But the expectation was that they would
learn. Secondly "perhaps none of these would accept" farm jobs is a
strawman of Kong-like proportions.

In article ,
"Doug Kanter" wrote:


You want supporting facts? Do you live anywhere near farms which use
seasonal laborers? Stop by during the harvest season and ask the farmer or
foreman if you can talk to some of the "American" kids from the surrounding
school districts. You'll be lucky to find any.

I don't know. Ain't nothin' but locals around here doing the
detasselling of corn.

"Kurt Ullman" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"Doug Kanter" wrote:


You want supporting facts? Do you live anywhere near farms which use
seasonal laborers? Stop by during the harvest season and ask the farmer
or
foreman if you can talk to some of the "American" kids from the
surrounding
school districts. You'll be lucky to find any.

I don't know. Ain't nothin' but locals around here doing the
detasselling of corn.

What about produce that can't be removed from the plant or the ground via
machine? Who does all that work?

Mys Terry wrote:
On Wed, 05 Apr 2006 09:46:12 -0400, Spike2 wrote:


Doug Kanter wrote:

"Spike2" wrote in message
. ..


Doug Miller wrote:



There is no continent called "America". Apparently, you didn't go to
school at all.

never heard of N and S America, eh?


You're also apparently unaware that there are several nations whose
official names are "The United States of ...", of which the USA is only
one. There are also the United States of Mexico, and the United States of
Brazil -- and the citizens of the two are called "Mexicans" and
"Brazilians" respectively. People who live in the United States of
America are "Americans".


accroding to your convoluted description then they are all Americans.
they are all Americans, get it now?
if you wish to be more descriptive then they are Mexicans, Brazilians, and
US citizens


Get it now?

I'd love to listen to you trying to convince a Canadian that he's an
"American". It would be even more entertaining to hear you trying to
persuade him that he's wrong, when he tells you he isn't.

so now you're saying Canada is not in N America?
Govt schools again.


How old are you?



what's your IQ?


I'm betting your age is a higher number!


you'd lose!

"Kurt Ullman" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"Doug Kanter" wrote:

Illogical, but I'll play anyway. Let's say that by some miracle, all
immigrants were infused with perfect English skills as they crossed the
border. Since you've said that language is the key to better jobs,
perhaps
none of these people would accept farm jobs. Who do you think would fill
the
void?

Talk about illogical. First of all no one is suggesting that everyone
will know upon arrival. That was never a requirement in any of the other
great waves of immigration. But the expectation was that they would
learn. Secondly "perhaps none of these would accept" farm jobs is a
strawman of Kong-like proportions.

Let's not consider the strawman to be an evil thing in such a discussion.
People here are suggesting that the reason immigrants dominate farm labor is
because they don't speak English. It's not much of a stretch to ask "what
if?" Have you ever listened to, or read transcripts of Supreme Court
proceedings, particularly when they involve sticky legal issues that
nobody's been able to agree on, like the 2nd amendment? These proceedings
are sometimes nothing BUT strawman arguments.

In article ,
"Doug Kanter" wrote:

"Kurt Ullman" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"Doug Kanter" wrote:


You want supporting facts? Do you live anywhere near farms which use
seasonal laborers? Stop by during the harvest season and ask the farmer
or
foreman if you can talk to some of the "American" kids from the
surrounding
school districts. You'll be lucky to find any.

I don't know. Ain't nothin' but locals around here doing the
detasselling of corn.

What about produce that can't be removed from the plant or the ground via
machine? Who does all that work?

Largely LEGAL migrant workers whose work conditions are under the
purview of the Department of Labor and federal regulations.

In article ,
"Doug Kanter" wrote:



Let's not consider the strawman to be an evil thing in such a discussion.
Of course not. This allows to make up all sorts of impossible
scenarios that fit whatever our preconceived notions are. I will say
that you are right, and admit that immigrants will no longer pick
vegetables if you will admit that the wages associated with it will go
up to where American kids will want to do the work. Both are at least as
likel.

People here are suggesting that the reason immigrants dominate farm labor is
because they don't speak English. It's not much of a stretch to ask "what
if?" Have you ever listened to, or read transcripts of Supreme Court
proceedings, particularly when they involve sticky legal issues that
nobody's been able to agree on, like the 2nd amendment? These proceedings
are sometimes nothing BUT strawman arguments.
Hardly. They are always based on what the law says, what the
Congressional debate included, writings of learned scholars, etc.

"Kurt Ullman" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"Doug Kanter" wrote:



Let's not consider the strawman to be an evil thing in such a discussion.
Of course not. This allows to make up all sorts of impossible
scenarios that fit whatever our preconceived notions are. I will say
that you are right, and admit that immigrants will no longer pick
vegetables if you will admit that the wages associated with it will go
up to where American kids will want to do the work. Both are at least as
likel.


I suppose wages might go up, although the subsequent chain of events would
be interesting, to say the least. I'm referring to the ripple effect in
terms of food prices. People who don't allow for this possibility are
usually those who think grocers have enormous profit margins and have plenty
of room to absorb price swings.

Many large companies want to make all their customers feel comfortable
in their place of business. The more comfortable they are the more
they will buy, the more they buy the more people are needed to stock
the shelves and assist the customers.

Here in Canada, we have stores that try to hire people from as many
nationalities as possible to ensure that the customers feel comfortable
and can get the assistance they need.

Whistler Mountain, classed as a world premier ski resort has always had
multi-lingual signs for travellers. It only makes good business sense.

Just my two cents as a small business person.

In article ,

I wonder if people who don't like illegals really differentiate between
legal and illegal, and view the entire group as "them damned immigrants".

Most do, some idiots don't. ALL of the Congressional debate, for
instance, deals with illegal immigrants and what we should do about it.

"Joseph Meehan" wrote in
:

Jim Yanik wrote:
"Joseph Meehan" wrote in
:

JerryL wrote:
...


This is America. English is spoken here. You want to speak your
native language, speak it at home amongst your friends and
relatives.

So are many other languages spoken here. Why do you think only
English
should be spoken here?


Because language is a Major unifying factor.
And English is THE language of business and science.

Religion is a unifying factor, do you also suggest that we should
make
religious requirements? How about what sports we like, that is also
a unifying factor, let's outlaw rowing (too English).


Except that commmunication between people is an ESSENTIAL,if you want them
to get along.




It's F-ing RUDE to move to a new country to live and expect them to
accomodate YOUR language instead of learning their language.

I don't see that anyone is asking that you accommodate anyone.

Then why have VOTING ballots in other languages? That IS "accomodation".
(and it costs a bunch of money)
Citizens are supposed to have basic English skills.


--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net

wrote in message
oups.com...
Many large companies want to make all their customers feel comfortable
in their place of business. The more comfortable they are the more
they will buy, the more they buy the more people are needed to stock
the shelves and assist the customers.

Here in Canada, we have stores that try to hire people from as many
nationalities as possible to ensure that the customers feel comfortable
and can get the assistance they need.

Whistler Mountain, classed as a world premier ski resort has always had
multi-lingual signs for travellers. It only makes good business sense.

Just my two cents as a small business person.



Sorry. This response is too sensible.

Doug Miller wrote:
...

There is no continent called "America". Apparently, you didn't go to
school at all.

You're also apparently unaware that there are several nations whose
official names are "The United States of ...", of which the USA is
only one. There are also the United States of Mexico, and the United
States of Brazil -- and the citizens of the two are called "Mexicans"
and "Brazilians" respectively.
People who live in the United States of America are "Americans".

Get it now?

I'd love to listen to you trying to convince a Canadian that he's an
"American". It would be even more entertaining to hear you trying to
persuade him that he's wrong, when he tells you he isn't.

Per the American Heritage Dictionary:

A·mer·i·can (.-mµr"¹-k.n) adj. Abbr. A., Amer. 1. Of or relating to the
United States of America or its people, language, or culture. 2. Of or
relating to North or South America, the West Indies, or the Western
Hemisphere. 3. Of or relating to any of the Native American peoples. 4.
Indigenous to North or South America. Used of plants and
animals. --A·mer·i·can n. Abbr. A., Amer. 1. A native or inhabitant of
America. 2. A citizen of the United States. --A·mer"i·can·ness n.

Do read #2

--
Joseph Meehan

Dia duit

wrote:
Many large companies want to make all their customers feel comfortable
in their place of business. The more comfortable they are the more
they will buy, the more they buy the more people are needed to stock
the shelves and assist the customers.

Here in Canada, we have stores that try to hire people from as many
nationalities as possible to ensure that the customers feel
comfortable and can get the assistance they need.

Back in the 60's I worked for a US department store. They kept a list
of employees with various language skills. Anytime we had a customer with
communication problems we called a special number and they would send
someone down. While I was there I had on French speaker and one Arab area
customer, I don't think I ever figured out what specific language, but we
provided service and made a good sale. That was one of the few times I
handled $500 bills.


Whistler Mountain, classed as a world premier ski resort has always
had multi-lingual signs for travellers. It only makes good business
sense.

Just my two cents as a small business person.

--
Joseph Meehan

Dia duit

In article ,
says...
Keith Williams wrote:
In article ,
says...
"Joseph Meehan" wrote in message
..


Left turn! Last week, NPR was interviewing people in Washington DC -
protesters on both sides of the new immigration law issue. One guy
was especially interesting - a construction worker originally from
Mexico. He said (in perfect English) "I never finished school, but I
still read a lot of history. From what I can figure out, NOBODY came
here legally in the beginning!"

Umm, "in the beginning" there were no immigration laws so it would
be *impossible* for them to have come here illegally, "in the
beginning".

Define beginning.

Population = 0

--
Keith

In article ,
Jim Yanik wrote:

Then why have VOTING ballots in other languages? That IS "accomodation".
(and it costs a bunch of money)
Citizens are supposed to have basic English skills.

That is still a requirement for citizenship. I never had understood
that...

In article ,
says...

"MikeP" wrote in message
bal.net...
In article EEyYf.78212$UZ5.35382
@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com,
says...
While they were learning, did they have servants to venture out
into the world for them to buy food, or did they find merchants who
spoke their native language?

In those days, people with similar languages or that came from
similar countries used to settle in certain areas so that you could
always find someone that spoke your language. I remember as a kid
going into stores and when the storekeeper starting speaking their
native tongue to my mother, she would reply "Speak English or we
will never learn how to".

Sadly, there are no Hispanic people like that. None. Absolutely none.
Zip.

Spoken like a true bigot.

Bigot .... uncalled for.

You've missed an entire piece of this discussion, including the point where
I said that my remark was sarcasm. Set up your news reader to follow the
thread.


My news reader threads just fine. Re your remark on
sarcasm ... ever hear of net-lag.

"MikeP" wrote in message
bal.net...
In article ,
says...

"MikeP" wrote in message
bal.net...
In article EEyYf.78212$UZ5.35382
@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com,
says...
While they were learning, did they have servants to venture out
into the world for them to buy food, or did they find merchants
who
spoke their native language?

In those days, people with similar languages or that came from
similar countries used to settle in certain areas so that you could
always find someone that spoke your language. I remember as a kid
going into stores and when the storekeeper starting speaking their
native tongue to my mother, she would reply "Speak English or we
will never learn how to".

Sadly, there are no Hispanic people like that. None. Absolutely
none.
Zip.

Spoken like a true bigot.

Bigot .... uncalled for.

You've missed an entire piece of this discussion, including the point
where
I said that my remark was sarcasm. Set up your news reader to follow the
thread.


My news reader threads just fine. Re your remark on
sarcasm ... ever hear of net-lag.

Actually, yes. My stupid ISP calls it a "feature" of their news server, and
claims customers can get around it by pre-heating their ovens and wearing
green socks. Sorry about the criticism.