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NickW wrote:
Do those ultrasonic gadgets work on rabbits? We have a lot of wild rabbits coming into our garden and digging stuff up. Maybe the really big poweful ones do, I don't know - but the small plug type don't scare anything. Wife won't let me buy a gun :-) Ahh...the baby wabbits... We have no pets but we do have young children (1yr and 3yrs). Our cat eats a wild rabbit almost every day - always round about 4-6pm, he brings one to the yard, sits down and tucks in. He starts at the head, and works his way down. He leaves *nothing* behind - not fur, not bones, nothing. He is available contract work. -- Grunff |
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Grunff writes: Our cat eats a wild rabbit almost every day - always round about 4-6pm, he brings one to the yard, sits down and tucks in. He starts at the head, and works his way down. He leaves *nothing* behind - not fur, not bones, nothing. He is available contract work. Is he, like, large for a cat, and, like, orange with, like, black stripes? -- SAm. |
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Our cat eats a wild rabbit almost every day - always round about 4-6pm, he brings one to the yard, sits down and tucks in. He starts at the head, and works his way down. He leaves *nothing* behind - not fur, not bones, nothing. He is available contract work. Is he, like, large for a cat, and, like, orange with, like, black stripes? He's really not very big - I'd say a little bigger than average. He's black with a few white bits, and is about 3 years old. His rabbit eating is a very strange thing to watch. One of his other hobbies is mole killing - he kills loads and loads of them, but doesn't eat them. I guess they don't taste very nice. I think he does it purely for sport. He's extremely friendly, affectionate and dosile with people. -- Grunff |
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"Grunff" wrote in message ... Sam Nelson wrote: Our cat eats a wild rabbit almost every day - always round about 4-6pm, he brings one to the yard, sits down and tucks in. He starts at the head, and works his way down. He leaves *nothing* behind - not fur, not bones, nothing. He is available contract work. Is he, like, large for a cat, and, like, orange with, like, black stripes? He's really not very big - I'd say a little bigger than average. He's black with a few white bits, and is about 3 years old. His rabbit eating is a very strange thing to watch. One of his other hobbies is mole killing - he kills loads and loads of them, but doesn't eat them. I guess they don't taste very nice. I think he does it purely for sport. He's extremely friendly, affectionate and dosile with people. No, you see, what you've got there, Grunff, is what's commonly known as a panther, not a puddy tat. Si |
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Sam Nelson wrote: Our cat eats a wild rabbit almost every day - always round about 4-6pm, he brings one to the yard, sits down and tucks in. He starts at the head, and works his way down. He leaves *nothing* behind - not fur, not bones, nothing. He is available contract work. Is he, like, large for a cat, and, like, orange with, like, black stripes? He's really not very big - I'd say a little bigger than average. He's black with a few white bits, and is about 3 years old. His rabbit eating is a very strange thing to watch. One of his other hobbies is mole killing - he kills loads and loads of them, but doesn't eat them. I guess they don't taste very nice. I think he does it purely for sport. He's extremely friendly, affectionate and dosile with people. He is lulling you into a false sense of security :-/ -- Grunff AP -- We were always told that a million monkeys typing for a million years would eventually produce the works of Shakespeare. Now, thanks to the Internet, we know this is not true. |
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He's really not very big - I'd say a little bigger than average.
He's black with a few white bits, and is about 3 years old. His rabbit eating is a very strange thing to watch. One of his other hobbies is mole killing - he kills loads and loads of them, but doesn't eat them. I guess they don't taste very nice. I think he does it purely for sport. He's extremely friendly, affectionate and dosile with people. Just as well... ;-) |
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I'd rather have wild rabbits rather than the damn mole that is destroying my
whole garden!! Little buggers are impossible to catch. Can't you just stop them getting into the garden as a solution? Mat "NickW" wrote in message om... Do those ultrasonic gadgets work on rabbits? We have a lot of wild rabbits coming into our garden and digging stuff up. Wife won't let me buy a gun :-) We have no pets but we do have young children (1yr and 3yrs). Cheers Nick. |
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Matthew Augier (dps) wrote:
I'd rather have wild rabbits rather than the damn mole that is destroying my whole garden!! Little buggers are impossible to catch. Professional mole killer available for contract work - see my other posts in this thread. -- Grunff |
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"NickW" wrote in message om... Do those ultrasonic gadgets work on rabbits? We have a lot of wild rabbits coming into our garden and digging stuff up. Wife won't let me buy a gun :-) We have no pets but we do have young children (1yr and 3yrs). Cheers Nick. Get a gun anyway and solve all four problems ! :-) Richard. |
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"Matthew Augier (dps)" wrote: I'd rather have wild rabbits rather than the damn mole that is destroying my whole garden!! Little buggers are impossible to catch. Can't you just stop them getting into the garden as a solution? Mat "NickW" wrote in message om... Do those ultrasonic gadgets work on rabbits? We have a lot of wild rabbits coming into our garden and digging stuff up. Wife won't let me buy a gun :-) We have no pets but we do have young children (1yr and 3yrs). Cheers Nick. Maybe worth a try for you: I've had success getting rid of moles by poking small holes down into their tunnels in various parts of the garden and popping bangers into them. The best ones to use, if you or anyone you know visits France on a regular basis, are the mammouth bangers; just like little sticks of dynamite! Mole problem was instantly cured. I think they can die of shock rather easily and even iof they don't, the noise must be most unpleasant for them. Regards, Jim. |
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"Steve Firth" wrote in message ... NickW wrote: I want that .22 rifle!! I have a nice German air rifle. It can knock over a rabbit perfectly well all the way across the paddock (about 300ft). It was a damn good buy. None of that pain of having to get a firearms certificate either. -- This computer has never had an undetected error. Would you please post the details of your air weapon. i.e.. makers name and model name/number. I have got a cheap Chinese model which is fine at close range, but over about 20 yards it will only injure and not kill. I would very much like to get hold of an air gun that is effective at 100 yards. Richard. |
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"Richard" wrote in message ... "Steve Firth" wrote in message ... NickW wrote: I want that .22 rifle!! I have a nice German air rifle. It can knock over a rabbit perfectly well all the way across the paddock (about 300ft). It was a damn good buy. None of that pain of having to get a firearms certificate either. -- This computer has never had an undetected error. Would you please post the details of your air weapon. i.e.. makers name and model name/number. I have got a cheap Chinese model which is fine at close range, but over about 20 yards it will only injure and not kill. I would very much like to get hold of an air gun that is effective at 100 yards. Richard. Get a decent crossbow. Mine is very effective at 150 yards. But why kill the little mites with a hand gun when you can poison them in larger numbers. Spread some pellets of poison and not shotgun pellets. --- www.basecuritysystems.no-ip.com Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.504 / Virus Database: 302 - Release Date: 24/07/03 |
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I'd rather have wild rabbits rather than the damn mole that is
destroying my whole garden!! Little buggers are impossible to catch. Professional mole killer available for contract work - see my other posts in this thread. I have one who lives two doors down and between me and a neighbour we have 10 traps down for over 4 weeks (and they get moved to active areas) STILL nothing! He has mentioned another couple of ideas but trapping is the only legal way to get rid of them Mat |
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Maybe worth a try for you: I've had success getting rid of moles by poking
small holes down into their tunnels in various parts of the garden and popping bangers into them. The best ones to use, if you or anyone you know visits France on a regular basis, are the mammouth bangers; just like little sticks of dynamite! Mole problem was instantly cured. I think they can die of shock rather easily and even iof they don't, the noise must be most unpleasant for them. Sounds like a plan... although not sure where to get any meaty bangers from!! Mat |
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NickW wrote: We have no pets but we do have young children (1yr and 3yrs). IMHO. they are a decent enough alternative to the real thing. :-D HTH Mark |
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"BigWallop" wrote in message news:lJ9Wa.362 Get a decent crossbow. Mine is very effective at 150 yards. But why kill the little mites with a hand gun when you can poison them in larger numbers. Spread some pellets of poison and not shotgun pellets. We have a decent crossbow as well and airguns and shotguns. Why would you want to poison rabbits when they make good eating?? Ophelia |
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"Mark Trotman" wrote
| NickW wrote: | We have no pets but we do have young children (1yr and 3yrs). | IMHO. they are a decent enough alternative to the real thing. :-D Obviously not great at keeping the rabbits down though! Owain |
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"Mungo "two sheds" Toadfoot" wrote in message ... "Grunff" wrote in message ... Sam Nelson wrote: Our cat eats a wild rabbit almost every day - always round about 4-6pm, he brings one to the yard, sits down and tucks in. He starts at the head, and works his way down. He leaves *nothing* behind - not fur, not bones, nothing. He is available contract work. Is he, like, large for a cat, and, like, orange with, like, black stripes? He's really not very big - I'd say a little bigger than average. He's black with a few white bits, and is about 3 years old. His rabbit eating is a very strange thing to watch. One of his other hobbies is mole killing - he kills loads and loads of them, but doesn't eat them. I guess they don't taste very nice. I think he does it purely for sport. He's extremely friendly, affectionate and dosile with people. No, you see, what you've got there, Grunff, is what's commonly known as a panther, not a puddy tat. Rabbit killing cats are not particularly unusual, or at least they used not to be - it is a long time since I've been on a farm. Rabbits can't take off vertically, like birds, they don't fight back as well as rats and, unlike mice, one makes a good meal, leaving the rest of the day for sleeping. Colin Bignell |
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Richard wrote:
"Steve Firth" wrote... NickW wrote: I want that .22 rifle!! I have a nice German air rifle. It can knock over a rabbit perfectly well all the way across the paddock (about 300ft). It was a damn good buy. None of that pain of having to get a firearms certificate either. Would you please post the details of your air weapon. i.e.. makers name and model name/number. I have got a cheap Chinese model which is fine at close range, but over about 20 yards it will only injure and not kill. I would very much like to get hold of an air gun that is effective at 100 yards. Hi Richard, I'm afraid that you are most unlikely to get an air rifle effective at that range. A legal gun is limited to a muzzle energy of 12 foot pounds, and will kill a rabbit cleanly at 30 yards at that rating - I would not shoot rabbit much further than that with a legal air rifle. I've got a Weihrauch HW77 (which is a .22) which is good, but heavy (but excellent trigger). 300' is, as you say, 100 yds. - perhaps Steve has boobed on a conversion? I also use a .22 rimfire, which is useful for rabbits to about 100 yds, but above that accuracy is a problem. Remember that if you get a high-powered air rifle (above the 12 ft. lb. limit) you should get a firearms certificate else you are liable to be "had". -- __________________________________________________ ______________ Sent via the PAXemail system at paxemail.com |
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[ killing rabbits ] Get a decent crossbow. Mine is very effective at 150 yards. It might be effective, but I simply don't believe you if you say you can hit one at that range. But why kill the little mites with a hand gun A "hand gun" commonly referrs to a pistol-type gun, not a rifle. when you can poison them in larger numbers. You can do this, and it is effective for fast control. However, I consider it extremely wasteful. However, it must be said that a lot of rabbits are wasted because of lack of demand. This is absolutely stupid - we import diced rabbit from China, so why won't people eat fresh British ones? Spread some pellets of poison and not shotgun pellets. Er, here I come to the conclusion that with respect to poisoning rabbits you don't know what you are talking about! Try taking up ferreting instead! -- __________________________________________________ ______________ Sent via the PAXemail system at paxemail.com |
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Grunff wrote:
Sam Nelson wrote: Our cat eats a wild rabbit almost every day - always round about 4-6pm, he brings one to the yard, sits down and tucks in. He starts at the head, and works his way down. He leaves *nothing* behind - not fur, not bones, nothing. He is available contract work. Is he, like, large for a cat, and, like, orange with, like, black stripes? He's really not very big - I'd say a little bigger than average. He's black with a few white bits, and is about 3 years old. His rabbit eating is a very strange thing to watch. One of his other hobbies is mole killing - he kills loads and loads of them, but doesn't eat them. I guess they don't taste very nice. I think he does it purely for sport. Odd. Cats won't eats shrews, but moles? never heard of that... Sadly bank voles - water rats to you - are apparently delicious, and there aren't that many left. He's extremely friendly, affectionate and dosile with people. |
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Mungo \"two sheds\" Toadfoot wrote:
"Grunff" wrote in message No, you see, what you've got there, Grunff, is what's commonly known as a panther, not a puddy tat. Rubbish, I have a puddy tat that has been etaing wabbits since he was 4 months old. He's 6 months old now :-) Si |
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NickW wrote:
Do those ultrasonic gadgets work on rabbits? No. We have a lot of wild rabbits coming into our garden and digging stuff up. If you don't want to kill the rabbits (shoot, snare, ferret, poison) your only real bet is to fence them out with galvanised wire (1" chicken wire) buried 6" at the bottom edge. You will have to maintain it and wire up holes, check for undermining. Ii only needs to be 3' high wire. We have no pets but we do have young children (1yr and 3yrs). It will help keep them in (but they may contribute to your maintenance requirements!). __________________________________________________ ______________ Sent via the PAXemail system at paxemail.com |
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jerrybuilt wrote:
Richard wrote: "Steve Firth" wrote... NickW wrote: I want that .22 rifle!! I have a nice German air rifle. It can knock over a rabbit perfectly well all the way across the paddock (about 300ft). It was a damn good buy. None of that pain of having to get a firearms certificate either. Would you please post the details of your air weapon. i.e.. makers name and model name/number. I have got a cheap Chinese model which is fine at close range, but over about 20 yards it will only injure and not kill. I would very much like to get hold of an air gun that is effective at 100 yards. Hi Richard, I'm afraid that you are most unlikely to get an air rifle effective at that range. A legal gun is limited to a muzzle energy of 12 foot pounds, and will kill a rabbit cleanly at 30 yards at that rating - I would not shoot rabbit much further than that with a legal air rifle. I've got a Weihrauch HW77 (which is a .22) which is good, but heavy (but excellent trigger). Yes, I have that and will absolutely support your thesis that hitting teh rabbit at 30 yds is hard, but it will generally kill them if it does, At 60 yds its a complete hit and miss affair - a lucky shot will get them and probably damage enough to eventually kill, but they will still be able to run away to die, and be useless for dinner. My best shot with such was 40 yds, clean through teh brain. Leapt up twitched and died. 300' is, as you say, 100 yds. - perhaps Steve has boobed on a conversion? I also use a .22 rimfire, which is useful for rabbits to about 100 yds, but above that accuracy is a problem. Dunno what I used, but someone tok me out, handed me a .22 and said 'crawl through there, rest on teh concrete block, and pot a rabbit' used to tey air rifle I dsaid 'what drop should I allow?' 'No drop - its flat' he said. Well being a bit unconvinced of my own skill I aimed for the dead center of a rabbit. It hit EXACTLY through the heart - within a cm of where I was aiming. Dunno what it was, but it was supersonic allright. Some rifle. He used to do big game hunting and has a lot of guns...I reckon that one would probly do 300 yds no problem if I was good enough to use it at that range... Remember that if you get a high-powered air rifle (above the 12 ft. lb. limit) you should get a firearms certificate else you are liable to be "had". -- __________________________________________________ ______________ Sent via the PAXemail system at paxemail.com |
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Steve Firth wrote:
Richard wrote: Would you please post the details of your air weapon. i.e.. makers name and model name/number. It's a Weihrauch HW 77k .22 Mmm. Mines an HW95. Its certainluy is inly accurate to 30m http://www.reviewcentre.com/reviews975.html |
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"Steve Firth" wrote in message ... Richard wrote: Would you please post the details of your air weapon. i.e.. makers name and model name/number. It's a Weihrauch HW 77k .22 http://www.reviewcentre.com/reviews975.html -- This computer has never had an undetected error. Thanks for the details Steve now I have just got to find a supplier ! Richard. |
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jerrybuilt wrote:
Grunff wrote: Our cat eats a wild rabbit almost every day - always round about 4-6pm, he brings one to the yard, sits down and tucks in. He starts at the head, and works his way down. He leaves *nothing* behind - not fur, not bones, nothing. I don't believe that, either. What a load. Mine does the same. My old cat - longs since deceased - used to leave the entrails and stomachs, and occasionally the heads as well, but he had a hiatus hernia and spent a lot of time throwing up the furballs. The new mog just eats the effing lot. After bringing it in to show us. Saves on catfood I can tell you. Costs a bit on worm pills tho. __________________________________________________ ______________ Sent via the PAXemail system at paxemail.com |
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On Thu, 31 Jul 2003 13:46:52 +0100, "Matthew Augier \(dps\)"
wrote: I'd rather have wild rabbits rather than the damn mole that is destroying my whole garden!! Little buggers are impossible to catch. Can't you just stop them getting into the garden as a solution? A possible solution which I heard elsewhere follows. Go into town and buy one of those annoying birthday cards that has a "Happy Birthday To You!" song played continuously when you open the card. Or some other type of card which is equally annoying. Extract the mechanism from the card, and pop it into the moles tunnel. The tunnel is quite good at bouncing the sound around, so wherever moley is, he's reminded that someone is having a birthday party, 24 hours a day. Drives the varmints to distraction because they are 99% blind and rely upon their hearing in order to catch worms to eat. I'm told they soon head off to quieter climes in order to survive. Andrew Do you need a handyman service? Check out our web site at http://www.handymac.co.uk |
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"gandalf" wrote in message ... "NickW" wrote in message m... (Sam Nelson) wrote in message ... I want that .22 rifle!! ----------- Unfortunately so will the police. The legal power limit here in the UK is 12 ft lbs, that will not consistly knock over a rabbit at 100 yards. 30-35 yards, sure. But not 100. (you wouldn't hit it anyway) If the rifle is set at more that 12 ft lbs, as many older German models are, then it is illegal. To the law you may just as well be in possesion of an AK47. And they will likely prosecute, especially in today's political climate. Should you buy one of these German rifles, pump-ups included, it might be worth getting a device for measuring the output. I've got one, somewhere, and it tells me whether I'm legal or not (which can vary from pellet to pellet) and I tweak to suit. Would anyone know how the 12 ft lbs translates into muzzel velocity for a given calibre of air weapon as this is the figure usually given in specs and reviews. Richard. |
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"Richard" wrote in message ... Would anyone know how the 12 ft lbs translates into muzzel velocity for a given calibre of air weapon as this is the figure usually given in specs and reviews. ------------ It all depends on the weight of the pellet. Muzzle velocity alone is not an absolute measure of kinetic energy. A .177 pellet can go way faster than a .22 and still be legal. |
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Andrew McKay wrote:
On Thu, 31 Jul 2003 13:46:52 +0100, "Matthew Augier \(dps\)" wrote: I'd rather have wild rabbits rather than the damn mole that is destroying my whole garden!! Little buggers are impossible to catch. Can't you just stop them getting into the garden as a solution? A possible solution which I heard elsewhere follows. Go into town and buy one of those annoying birthday cards that has a "Happy Birthday To You!" song played continuously when you open the card. Or some other type of card which is equally annoying. Been watching Malcolm In The Middle have we? -- James... http://www.jameshart.co.uk/ |
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BigWallop wrote:
"Richard" wrote in message ... "Steve Firth" wrote in message ... NickW wrote: I want that .22 rifle!! I have a nice German air rifle. It can knock over a rabbit perfectly well all the way across the paddock (about 300ft). It was a damn good buy. None of that pain of having to get a firearms certificate either. -- This computer has never had an undetected error. Would you please post the details of your air weapon. i.e.. makers name and model name/number. ..... Get a decent crossbow. Mine is very effective at 150 yards. But why kill the little mites with a hand gun when you can poison them in larger numbers. Spread some pellets of poison and not shotgun pellets. Which will hopefully get rid of all those pesky cats that sh*t on my garden |
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On Thu, 31 Jul 2003 20:40:40 +0100, The Natural Philosopher
wrote: get yer air rifle and have rabbit pie! Really nice with a bit of piegon sausage and wabbit in them Nice thick gwavy and lossa uniuns, topped off with Mr waitrose puff pastry. Cut up onions, and sizzle till golden brown. Add bacon scraps and sausages for fat and flavour Skin pigeons and wabbits, and cut off all the nice bits and chop into chunks for the pan. Give the rest to the dog/cat/mother in law. Coat in flour, and fry gently till pretty to look at. Add water, or vegetable stock or chicken stock and some soy sauce for flavour and colour. Pepper is good too, simmer till almost tender. You can add ale, cider, sherry or red wine for varous flavours, also nutmeg and the usual scarborough fair herb suite Shove in pie dish, add pastry top decorating with playboy style rabbit logo, and bake in top of aga for about 40 minutes. Put in some jacket potatoes at the same time. Serve with steamed green beans or vegetable of choice, with lots of beer of favorite brand. MMMM I have a very similar recipe. Works excellently and will keep for ages in the simmering oven if people are late (assuming it isn't eaten first) :-) Regarding the baked potatoes; have you tried rubbing the skins with sea salt before baking them? That really enhances the flavour and crisps the skins nicely. I like Maldon salt best for this. ..andy To email, substitute .nospam with .gl |
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On Thu, 31 Jul 2003 21:32:56 +0100, "James Hart"
wrote: Been watching Malcolm In The Middle have we? No - I don't even know what you are referring to! Andrew Do you need a handyman service? Check out our web site at http://www.handymac.co.uk |
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Steve Firth wrote:
Richard wrote: Would you please post the details of your air weapon. i.e.. makers name and model name/number. It's a Weihrauch HW 77k .22 http://www.reviewcentre.com/reviews975.html Yup - that is one of the all time classic rifles - should have no trouble with a bunny out to 35 yards. My Air Arms TX220 HC will make a quick job of one as well at about the same range. A very accurate gun - but a tad heavy. http://www.reviewcentre.com/reviews13.html If you want to take bunnys at 100 yards then you will need something on a FAC. -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
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"Ophelia" wrote in message news "BigWallop" wrote in message news:lJ9Wa.362 Get a decent crossbow. Mine is very effective at 150 yards. But why kill the little mites with a hand gun when you can poison them in larger numbers. Spread some pellets of poison and not shotgun pellets. We have a decent crossbow as well and airguns and shotguns. Why would you want to poison rabbits when they make good eating?? Ophelia Ah !!! If it's good eating your after, then the best is the outer braid off a length of coaxial cable. Make a nice noose from the braid and place it in the hedgerow, at rabbit head height, and wait. Once the rabbit is caught in the noose and it struggles to get away, the noose tightens but doesn't loosen. DA DA !!! One Big Wabbit ready for the pot. Now I'm hungry. --- www.basecuritysystems.no-ip.com Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.505 / Virus Database: 302 - Release Date: 30/07/03 |