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We were looking for a multimeter at work the other day. No fruit at the
time but have since stumbled on it.

We've a new 'tidy' member of staff who because it had been left out had
put it in a drawer with some other completely unrelated items, somewhere
you'd never have thought to look.

It reminded me of when my tidy sister came to stay at my house some
years ago and the phone got cut off.
Thinking i'd no outstanding bills and certainly no reminder, a penny
dropped that i'd not seen any mail for a while so I enquired.
She'd been putting my mail under the stairs unhappy with the way I
didn't immediately deal with it.

I can't decide if we should all be be tidy, communicate better or just
leave each other's **** alone.

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I can't decide if we should all be be tidy, communicate better or just
leave each other's **** alone.


Totally agree. SWAMBO has a habit of putting things in so called Äúsafe placesÄĚ then promptly forgets where they are resulting in hours spent looking for them only to find them weeks later in a totally unrelated place.

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I can't decide if we should all be be tidy, communicate better or just
leave each other's **** alone.


I'd go with the latter and it's a plan that generally works well here
[1]. ;-)

A non technical mate was asking me for help on some compressor hose /
connections and I asked him for a close-up picture of the fitting(s)
and some measurements with the vernier caliper I'd suggested he get a
while back and I'd see if I could help him sort something out.

It turns out the vernier had been 'Put away' in his lockup several
miles away, in spite of him having a massive empty house and
proportionally large and mostly empty (brick built) 'shed' with an
empty toolbox?

Wouldn't that sort of thing be in a 'man' / bits draw somewhere, if
not in a workshop? I have one in nearly every room (and the workshop),
that way I can always find one. ;-)

Cheers, T i m

[1] The Mrs wouldn't know what half of my stuff is / does so doesn't
even try to 'tidy it up'. Plus, why should she? ;-)
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After serious thinking Tricky Dicky wrote :
Totally agree. SWAMBO has a habit of putting things in so called Äúsafe
placesÄĚ then promptly forgets where they are resulting in hours spent looking
for them only to find them weeks later in a totally unrelated place.


Oh, they all do that ;-)

I leave my own paperwork and letters out, until it has been completely
dealt with - that is my glue to deal with it, once it has been dealt
with it is filed, or destroyed.
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I can't decide if we should all be be tidy, communicate better or just
leave each other's **** alone.


I'd go with the latter


Now extend that to food choices.


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I can't decide if we should all be be tidy, communicate better or just
leave each other's **** alone.


I'd go with the latter


Now extend that to food choices.


What 'choices' are you giving the animals then?

With tidying up, rarely does someone have to suffer or die.

You really are desperate trying to justify your desire to cause
suffering, exploitation and death towards innocent creatures aren't
you?

Cheers, T i m
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On 24/04/2021 14:14, Richard wrote:
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I can't decide if we should all be be tidy, communicate better or just
leave each other's **** alone.


I'd go with the latter


Now extend that to food choices.



He will not.

BTW I am having Zebra tonight for dinner.

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On 24/04/2021 14:35, T i m wrote:
On Sat, 24 Apr 2021 14:14:15 +0100, Richard
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On 24/04/2021 13:51, T i m wrote:
On Sat, 24 Apr 2021 12:16:41 +0100, R D S wrote:

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I can't decide if we should all be be tidy, communicate better or just
leave each other's **** alone.

I'd go with the latter


Now extend that to food choices.


What 'choices' are you giving the animals then?

With tidying up, rarely does someone have to suffer or die.

You really are desperate trying to justify your desire to cause
suffering, exploitation and death towards innocent creatures aren't
you?


Now be a good boy, eat your greens and let others eat theirs choice of food.
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On 24/04/2021 16:41, ARW wrote:
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On 24/04/2021 13:51, T i m wrote:
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I can't decide if we should all be be tidy, communicate better or just
leave each other's **** alone.

I'd go with the latter


Now extend that to food choices.



He will not.


You were right.


BTW I am having Zebra tonight for dinner.


A whole one?
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On 24/04/2021 17:06, Richard wrote:
On 24/04/2021 16:41, ARW wrote:
On 24/04/2021 14:14, Richard wrote:
On 24/04/2021 13:51, T i m wrote:
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I can't decide if we should all be be tidy, communicate better or just
leave each other's **** alone.

I'd go with the latter

Now extend that to food choices.



He will not.


You were right.


BTW I am having Zebra tonight for dinner.


A whole one?


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On 24/04/2021 16:41, ARW wrote:
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On 24/04/2021 13:51, T i m wrote:
On Sat, 24 Apr 2021 12:16:41 +0100, R D S wrote:

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I can't decide if we should all be be tidy, communicate better or just
leave each other's **** alone.

I'd go with the latter


Now extend that to food choices.



He will not.

BTW I am having Zebra tonight for dinner.


Hosts in Israel in 1973 gave me some really nice Zebra butties (with a
choice of brown sauce or tomato ketchup).


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On 24/04/2021 16:41, ARW wrote:
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On 24/04/2021 13:51, T i m wrote:
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I can't decide if we should all be be tidy, communicate better or just
leave each other's **** alone.

I'd go with the latter


Now extend that to food choices.



He will not.

BTW I am having Zebra tonight for dinner.

nice. very tasty, is zebra

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On 24/04/2021 17:55, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 24/04/2021 16:41, ARW wrote:
On 24/04/2021 14:14, Richard wrote:
On 24/04/2021 13:51, T i m wrote:
On Sat, 24 Apr 2021 12:16:41 +0100, R D S wrote:

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I can't decide if we should all be be tidy, communicate better or just
leave each other's **** alone.

I'd go with the latter

Now extend that to food choices.



He will not.

BTW I am having Zebra tonight for dinner.

nice. very tasty, is zebra


Bit like marmite.
Love it or hate it.
You know, not grey but good old black and white.
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[1] The Mrs wouldn't know what half of my stuff is / does so doesn't
even try to 'tidy it up'. Plus, why should she? ;-)


This is the "man cave" concept.

That towels belong on the bathroom floor.
That's a man cave.

The perception of housing, of males and females is
different. For the female, the condition of the
house is a reflection of her. If anything is out
of place, a visiting female will award a demerit
for the infraction. Via continuous-community-chat,
the demerit will make the rounds, for all to hear
about. "She obviously does not own a Hoover."

As an example of an obscure metric, pick up one
of your drinking glasses, one with a "fog" on the
finish because it isn't atomic-scientist-clean.
There are severe demerits for dish washing skills,
even if a machine did it. It reflects that the
maintainer did not put enough attention into
details. I've heard so many stories about
foggy drinking glasses, I'm sick of it :-)
The description always begins with a setup,
validating why atomic-scientist examination
was attempted. The person here wasn't actually
thirsty, and the first part of the sentence is
an embellishment.

"I wanted to have a drink of water, took a look
at her drinking glasses, and decided "better not"."

An atomic-scientist did not approve this glass.
Only electron microscopy will determine what
foul substance is on the glass. "Burn it with fire"
would be an example of a response. We must find
a way to purge the item, to make it whole again.
There will be a ceremony. You will have to dry the
item, as she washes them. And so on.

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We were looking for a multimeter at work the other day. No fruit at the
time but have since stumbled on it.

We've a new 'tidy' member of staff who because it had been left out had
put it in a drawer with some other completely unrelated items, somewhere
you'd never have thought to look.


I've only got myself to blame. During the last lockdown I've had a
massive clear out and tidy up. Now that I'm back to doing some DIY I
cant find stuff that I know I kept


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T i m wrote:


[1] The Mrs wouldn't know what half of my stuff is / does so doesn't
even try to 'tidy it up'. Plus, why should she? ;-)


This is the "man cave" concept.


Well, it's probably something. ;-)

That towels belong on the bathroom floor.
That's a man cave.


Funnily that's one of the few things that don't generally happen here.
;-)

The perception of housing, of males and females is
different.


I think it used to be, that's for sure, now however, I think many men
have been browbeaten, indoctrinated by TV, the 'do up your house to
this std form' shows so have lost that cause. ;-(

For the female, the condition of the
house is a reflection of her. If anything is out
of place, a visiting female will award a demerit
for the infraction. Via continuous-community-chat,
the demerit will make the rounds, for all to hear
about. "She obviously does not own a Hoover."


Ah, that bit is probably true (for many).

As an example of an obscure metric, pick up one
of your drinking glasses, one with a "fog" on the
finish because it isn't atomic-scientist-clean.
There are severe demerits for dish washing skills,
even if a machine did it. It reflects that the
maintainer did not put enough attention into
details. I've heard so many stories about
foggy drinking glasses, I'm sick of it :-)


That's probably partly why we don't encourage visitors. ;-)

The description always begins with a setup,
validating why atomic-scientist examination
was attempted. The person here wasn't actually
thirsty, and the first part of the sentence is
an embellishment.

"I wanted to have a drink of water, took a look
at her drinking glasses, and decided "better not"."


Crazy. I'll tip the remains of the tea out of a mug, fill it with
water from the cold tap and drink it. I guess this is why those sorts
of people don't go camping but demand a mint on their pillow.

An atomic-scientist did not approve this glass.
Only electron microscopy will determine what
foul substance is on the glass. "Burn it with fire"
would be an example of a response. We must find
a way to purge the item, to make it whole again.
There will be a ceremony. You will have to dry the
item, as she washes them. And so on.


It may not be just chance that brought my Mrs and I together as I
don't have to deal with any of that. She's certainly not 'SWMBO' and
the arrangement is mutual.

But I agree, I think it's sad we have gone from having homes where we
would do most things, inc service the motorbike in the kitchen if
required and now seem to be as obsessed with the 'demeriting' (or fear
thereof) from someone who isn't even connected or have any real status
over you.

If the Mrs couldn't get to the kitchen because I was working on
something in there (like a cycle, motorbike engine or the washing
machine), all she would ask is that I did the cooking for fear of her
moving or disturbing something. There is a good reason she's so
supportive, it could be her cycle or motorbike engine I'm working on.
;-)

Cheers, T i m




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On 24/04/2021 13:08, Tricky Dicky wrote:

I can't decide if we should all be be tidy, communicate better or just
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Totally agree. SWAMBO has a habit of putting things in so called Äúsafe placesÄĚ then promptly forgets where they are resulting in hours spent looking for them only to find them weeks later in a totally unrelated place.


The solution to that is to designate a couple of specific locations as
the safe places and put things there instead of random places that seem
sensible at the time. For small items we designated a ceramic kitchen
pot with a lid (about 8" diameter and 12" tall and standing on the
kitchen worktop) and literally referred to that as "A Safe Place".
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We were looking for a multimeter at work the other day. No fruit at
the time but have since stumbled on it.

We've a new 'tidy' member of staff who because it had been left out
had put it in a drawer with some other completely unrelated items,
somewhere you'd never have thought to look.


I've only got myself to blame. During the last lockdown I've had a
massive clear out and tidy up.¬* Now that I'm back to doing some DIY I
cant find stuff that I know I kept


Tell me about it. I have a place for tubes of glue. But that's not where
I put the balsa cement...


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As a blind person let me say that one has to be tidy ones self, but not
allow any others to use their form of tidy in your house as that means you
will never find anything whatsoever. One would think if we all share the
same biology and brain design that a logical place to put stuff for one
would be the same for somebody else. No its not, and for goodness sake if
all your cds are filed, never let others take them out read the booklet and
put them back as in a couple of visits, you will need to do the filing over
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We were looking for a multimeter at work the other day. No fruit at the
time but have since stumbled on it.

We've a new 'tidy' member of staff who because it had been left out had
put it in a drawer with some other completely unrelated items, somewhere
you'd never have thought to look.

It reminded me of when my tidy sister came to stay at my house some years
ago and the phone got cut off.
Thinking i'd no outstanding bills and certainly no reminder, a penny
dropped that i'd not seen any mail for a while so I enquired.
She'd been putting my mail under the stairs unhappy with the way I didn't
immediately deal with it.

I can't decide if we should all be be tidy, communicate better or just
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As a blind person let me say that one has to be tidy ones self, but not
allow any others to use their form of tidy in your house as that means you
will never find anything whatsoever.


Yes.

One would think if we all share the same biology and brain design that a
logical place to put stuff for one would be the same for somebody else.


It would be completely silly to think that given that
we see so much variation in what people prefer etc.

No its not, and for goodness sake if all your cds are filed, never let
others take them out read the booklet and put them back as in a couple of
visits, you will need to do the filing over again.


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We were looking for a multimeter at work the other day. No fruit at the
time but have since stumbled on it.

We've a new 'tidy' member of staff who because it had been left out had
put it in a drawer with some other completely unrelated items, somewhere
you'd never have thought to look.

It reminded me of when my tidy sister came to stay at my house some years
ago and the phone got cut off.
Thinking i'd no outstanding bills and certainly no reminder, a penny
dropped that i'd not seen any mail for a while so I enquired.
She'd been putting my mail under the stairs unhappy with the way I didn't
immediately deal with it.

I can't decide if we should all be be tidy, communicate better or just
leave each other's **** alone.



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On 24/04/2021 16:41, ARW wrote:
On 24/04/2021 14:14, Richard wrote:
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I can't decide if we should all be be tidy, communicate better or
just
leave each other's **** alone.

I'd go with the latter

Now extend that to food choices.


He will not.

BTW I am having Zebra tonight for dinner.

nice. very tasty, is zebra


Bit like marmite.
Love it or hate it.
You know, not grey but good old black and white.


:-)

Actually it was very nice. Probably get the crocodile next week.

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I can't decide if we should all be be tidy, communicate better or just
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Totally agree. SWAMBO has a habit of putting things in so called Äúsafe placesÄĚ then promptly forgets where they are resulting in hours spent looking for them only to find them weeks later in a totally unrelated place.

Richard


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On 24/04/2021 14:35, T i m wrote:
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On 24/04/2021 13:51, T i m wrote:
On Sat, 24 Apr 2021 12:16:41 +0100, R D S wrote:

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I can't decide if we should all be be tidy, communicate better or just
leave each other's **** alone.

I'd go with the latter


Now extend that to food choices.


What 'choices' are you giving the animals then?

With tidying up, rarely does someone have to suffer or die.

You really are desperate trying to justify your desire to cause
suffering, exploitation and death towards innocent creatures aren't
you?

Cheers, T i m


So you want the entire world animal population of cows, sheep,
pigs, ducks, geese and hens to be culled then ?. If you don't,
who will pay to feed them and look after them, the EU ?.


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On 24/04/2021 17:55, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 24/04/2021 16:41, ARW wrote:
On 24/04/2021 14:14, Richard wrote:
On 24/04/2021 13:51, T i m wrote:
On Sat, 24 Apr 2021 12:16:41 +0100, R D S wrote:

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I can't decide if we should all be be tidy, communicate better or
just
leave each other's **** alone.

I'd go with the latter

Now extend that to food choices.


He will not.

BTW I am having Zebra tonight for dinner.

nice. very tasty, is zebra


Bit like marmite.
Love it or hate it.
You know, not grey but good old black and white.


:-)

Actually it was very nice. Probably get the crocodile next week.


That's really tasty, like chicken. Ever tried fried eel ?.
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On 24/04/2021 18:24, Richard wrote:
On 24/04/2021 17:55, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 24/04/2021 16:41, ARW wrote:
On 24/04/2021 14:14, Richard wrote:
On 24/04/2021 13:51, T i m wrote:
On Sat, 24 Apr 2021 12:16:41 +0100, R D S wrote:

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I can't decide if we should all be be tidy, communicate better
or just
leave each other's **** alone.

I'd go with the latter

Now extend that to food choices.


He will not.

BTW I am having Zebra tonight for dinner.

nice. very tasty, is zebra

Bit like marmite.
Love it or hate it.
You know, not grey but good old black and white.


:-)

Actually it was very nice. Probably get the crocodile next week.


That's really tasty, like chicken. Ever tried fried eel ?.


Not yet.

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We were looking for a multimeter at work the other day. No fruit at the
time but have since stumbled on it.

We've a new 'tidy' member of staff who because it had been left out had
put it in a drawer with some other completely unrelated items, somewhere
you'd never have thought to look.

It reminded me of when my tidy sister came to stay at my house some
years ago and the phone got cut off.
Thinking i'd no outstanding bills and certainly no reminder, a penny
dropped that i'd not seen¬* any mail for a while so I enquired.
She'd been putting my mail under the stairs unhappy with the way I
didn't immediately deal with it.

I can't decide if we should all be be tidy, communicate better or just
leave each other's **** alone.

Ask the apprentice to tidy the van.

Later in the day I ask him "Where is the LED strip for the next job?"

Him "What is LED strip?"

I explain.

Him "In the skip - you told me to tidy the van and I thought it was rubbish"

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ARW wrote:
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On 24/04/2021 17:55, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 24/04/2021 16:41, ARW wrote:
On 24/04/2021 14:14, Richard wrote:
On 24/04/2021 13:51, T i m wrote:
On Sat, 24 Apr 2021 12:16:41 +0100, R D S wrote:

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I can't decide if we should all be be tidy, communicate better or
just
leave each other's **** alone.

I'd go with the latter

Now extend that to food choices.


He will not.

BTW I am having Zebra tonight for dinner.

nice. very tasty, is zebra


Bit like marmite.
Love it or hate it.
You know, not grey but good old black and white.


:-)

Actually it was very nice. Probably get the crocodile next week.


You picked a good one.

"Zebra steak is one of the leanest meats you can buy. With an
average 0.5g of fat per 100g, there are few meats that can
compete with that. Add high levels of protein, zinc, iron,
vitamin B12 and omega-3 fatty acids and you have the holy grail
of nutrition right there. Red meat full of protein and the extras
that help use that protein in your body."

"It tastes a little sweet and a little gamey.
It is difficult to describe while doing it justice."

They don't mention what kind of steak sauce to use.

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That's really tasty, like chicken. Ever tried fried eel ?.


Fried eel is nice - jellied eel is something else



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On 25/04/2021 13:08, Paul wrote:
ARW wrote:
On 24/04/2021 18:24, Richard wrote:
On 24/04/2021 17:55, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 24/04/2021 16:41, ARW wrote:
On 24/04/2021 14:14, Richard wrote:
On 24/04/2021 13:51, T i m wrote:
On Sat, 24 Apr 2021 12:16:41 +0100, R D S wrote:

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I can't decide if we should all be be tidy, communicate better
or just
leave each other's **** alone.

I'd go with the latter

Now extend that to food choices.


He will not.

BTW I am having Zebra tonight for dinner.

nice. very tasty, is zebra

Bit like marmite.
Love it or hate it.
You know, not grey but good old black and white.


:-)

Actually it was very nice. Probably get the crocodile next week.


You picked a good one.

¬* "Zebra steak is one of the leanest meats you can buy. With an
¬*¬* average 0.5g of fat per 100g, there are few meats that can
¬*¬* compete with that. Add high levels of protein, zinc, iron,
¬*¬* vitamin B12 and omega-3 fatty acids and you have the holy grail
¬*¬* of nutrition right there. Red meat full of protein and the extras
¬*¬* that help use that protein in your body."

¬* "It tastes a little sweet and a little gamey.
¬*¬* It is difficult to describe while doing it justice."

They don't mention what kind of steak sauce to use.



Not this one
https://www.urbandictionary.com/defi...er%27s%20Sauce



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On Sun, 25 Apr 2021 10:44:39 +0100, Andrew
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On 24/04/2021 14:35, T i m wrote:
On Sat, 24 Apr 2021 14:14:15 +0100, Richard
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On 24/04/2021 13:51, T i m wrote:
On Sat, 24 Apr 2021 12:16:41 +0100, R D S wrote:

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I can't decide if we should all be be tidy, communicate better or just
leave each other's **** alone.

I'd go with the latter

Now extend that to food choices.


What 'choices' are you giving the animals then?

With tidying up, rarely does someone have to suffer or die.

You really are desperate trying to justify your desire to cause
suffering, exploitation and death towards innocent creatures aren't
you?


So you want the entire world animal population of cows, sheep,
pigs, ducks, geese and hens to be culled then ?. If you don't,
who will pay to feed them and look after them, the EU ?.


You *really* are a stupid troll aren't you?

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They don't mention what kind of steak sauce to use.


Anthrax sauce ?


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ARW wrote:
On 24/04/2021 18:24, Richard wrote:
On 24/04/2021 17:55, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 24/04/2021 16:41, ARW wrote:
On 24/04/2021 14:14, Richard wrote:
On 24/04/2021 13:51, T i m wrote:
On Sat, 24 Apr 2021 12:16:41 +0100, R D S wrote:

snip

I can't decide if we should all be be tidy, communicate better or
just
leave each other's **** alone.

I'd go with the latter

Now extend that to food choices.


He will not.

BTW I am having Zebra tonight for dinner.

nice. very tasty, is zebra

Bit like marmite.
Love it or hate it.
You know, not grey but good old black and white.


:-)

Actually it was very nice. Probably get the crocodile next week.


You picked a good one.

"Zebra steak is one of the leanest meats you can buy. With an average
0.5g of fat per 100g, there are few meats that can compete with that.


But its the fat that gives a good steak its taste.

Add high levels of protein, zinc, iron, vitamin B12 and omega-3 fatty
acids and you have the holy grail of nutrition right there.


Pity about the lack of taste.

Red meat full of protein and the extras
that help use that protein in your body."


And stops you going barking mad like D I M

"It tastes a little sweet and a little gamey.
It is difficult to describe while doing it justice."


They don't mention what kind of steak sauce to use.


Only barbarians use steak sauce.

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Add high levels of protein, zinc, iron, vitamin B12 and omega-3 fatty
acids and you have the holy grail of nutrition right there.


(things you can get without causing pain and suffering to an animal).

Pity about the lack of taste.


1) Most things are said to taste like chicken (which is pretty bland).

2) Many people put plants or spices (Esp Col Sanders) on their meat to
make it taste 'nice'.

3) Or you burn the meat and make it carcinogenic.

4) Or you don't heat (or store) meat properly and it gives you food
poisoning.

5) You don't wash your hands or food surfaces properly after handling
raw meat and it gives you food poisoning.

6) Few would eat meat if they had to kill it themselves. This is
because it's 'out of sight, out of mind' (often in a window less
building in the middle of nowhere) and years of conditioning and not
aligning their actions with their morals. They provide safe passage
for a hedgehog but then eat a rabbit (unless you are Tyson Fury).

7) You protect a cat or dog with your life but take the life of a lamb
just to eat it's flesh.

https://ibb.co/sbVjVH1

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Pity about the lack of taste.


1) Most things are said to taste like chicken (which is pretty bland).


Only by fools with stuff like steak, roast lamb, roast pork, roast beef etc
etc etc.



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On Mon, 26 Apr 2021 07:26:38 +1000, "Rod Speed"
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Add high levels of protein, zinc, iron, vitamin B12 and omega-3 fatty
acids and you have the holy grail of nutrition right there.


(things you can get without causing pain and suffering to an animal).


Of course, through improvements in animal welfare. But you won't support
or endorse these campaigns.

Pity about the lack of taste.


1) Most things are said to taste like chicken (which is pretty bland).


And can only be claimed by fanatical vegans or those who have lost their
taste. I expect you would say white wine has no taste too.

2) Many people put plants or spices (Esp Col Sanders) on their meat to
make it taste 'nice'.


Of course variety is the spice of life. I rather like the taste of roast
chicken too.

3) Or you burn the meat and make it carcinogenic.


I would have thought you would mention processed meats ahead of burnt meat.

4) Or you don't heat (or store) meat properly and it gives you food
poisoning.


Storage issues also apply to plant foods. I am happier with frozen
chicken as the freezing process generally kills campylobacter.

I hope you cook your veggies you eat to reduce the risk of e-coli.

5) You don't wash your hands or food surfaces properly after handling
raw meat and it gives you food poisoning.


Even children in class are told to wash hand while preparing meat. It is
a well know procedure, a bit like being taught to look right and left
before crossing a read.

6) Few would eat meat if they had to kill it themselves. This is
because it's 'out of sight, out of mind' (often in a window less
building in the middle of nowhere) and years of conditioning and not
aligning their actions with their morals. They provide safe passage
for a hedgehog but then eat a rabbit (unless you are Tyson Fury).


I was happy to gut and eat fish. In the UK slaughter must be carried
under strict conditions. So unlikely for most people would ever get the
opportunity.

7) You protect a cat or dog with your life but take the life of a lamb
just to eat it's flesh.


Generally if there is a choice between either a dog owner or the dog
surviving, only a fanatic on a crusade would put the dog before him.

One can only assume that the fanatic doesn't value his own live, or
think it's worth living from not being allowed to eat meat.

https://ibb.co/sbVjVH1


Oh the irony of your pic. The context is most important and the
circumstances of the quote as that Voltaire was responding to the
subject of beating dogs.

Given you admit to not care about the welfare of animals while they are
alive the pic shows your desperation to try and stop us eating meat as
part of a healthy balanced diet.

You're failing badly in your quest.
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On 25/04/2021 13:48, T i m wrote:
On Sun, 25 Apr 2021 10:44:39 +0100, Andrew
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On 24/04/2021 14:35, T i m wrote:
On Sat, 24 Apr 2021 14:14:15 +0100, Richard
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On 24/04/2021 13:51, T i m wrote:
On Sat, 24 Apr 2021 12:16:41 +0100, R D S wrote:

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I can't decide if we should all be be tidy, communicate better or just
leave each other's **** alone.

I'd go with the latter

Now extend that to food choices.

What 'choices' are you giving the animals then?

With tidying up, rarely does someone have to suffer or die.

You really are desperate trying to justify your desire to cause
suffering, exploitation and death towards innocent creatures aren't
you?


So you want the entire world animal population of cows, sheep,
pigs, ducks, geese and hens to be culled then ?. If you don't,
who will pay to feed them and look after them, the EU ?.


You *really* are a stupid troll aren't you?


It's a simple question. How many cows, sheep, pigs, geese would exist in
say the UK if everyone was a fanatic vegan?
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You *really* are a stupid troll aren't you?

Cheers, T i m



It didn't take long before you resorted to personal abuse. Doing that is
always a sign that you know you've lost the argument.

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