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On Sunday, 23 April 2017 19:16:52 UTC+1, wrote:
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Meanwhile someone's house is burning down.

I'm sure they have the ability to prioritise calls

Could be an advantage if they are already out on call means they habve
their gear on the the engine is on the road.

Rubbish.

Nope, he's right there, they are all dressed up
for the event when out rescuing a stupid cat.

Otherwise they'd move the fire station to that place

All the cats don't end up stuck up the same tree.

and leave their gear on all day.

Not possible.

It's also a bit of practice for new recruits. if you haventl the skills
to climb a ladder to rescue a cat you shouldn't be relied upon to rescue
humans.

Those skills are learned as a child.

No child learns how to get another child down a ladder over their shoulder.

They can rescue people from non-fires if they like, but a cat is not
worth consuming their time when a person could be in danger elsewhere.

Depends on the person.

Yes is this one of those Hitler Qs ;-)

You say that like it's a bad thing.

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On Tue, 25 Apr 2017 12:25:58 +0100, whisky-dave
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On Sunday, 23 April 2017 21:28:26 UTC+1, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Sun, 23 Apr 2017 20:11:57 +0100, ARW

wrote:

On 23/04/2017 18:51, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Sun, 23 Apr 2017 07:14:36 +0100, ARW

wrote:

On 23/04/2017 04:34, Mike Tomlinson wrote:
En el artículo , Bob Eager
escribió:

Can we have more of Mike's kittens, please?

Coming soon. Promise.


Probably for the last time.

It will be soon time for them to go to new homes (apart from the
one
you
are keeping).

Book mother and daughter in for the snip at the same time, or we
will
have pictures of filthy sluts grand kittens in a couple of
months:-)

Why do so many people have this crazy idea that we should mutilate
all
cat's genitalia? How would you feel if the government forced you
to
have your testicles removed? It's barbaric.

I can use a condom.

The point is we should never remove the choice of a person (or
animal).

What if they haven't the ability to judge the situation they are in ?

Since cats have been around for millennia, I think they're doing just
fine.

How they evolved and modern situation is very different.

Modern situation is artificial, created by us.

Sure, but that is the one we are talking about castrating and desexing cats
in.

And they manage in that too.

No they don't population wise.

Reducing their numbers by mutilating them is inhumane.

So its much more humane to wait for them
to turn into adult cats and kill them then ?

No point in un interfering

The alternative is to have lots of people killing surplus adult cats.

Surplus cats are not harmful,

Corse they are.

it's not as though they're capable of killing people.

There are more harms than just being killed.

We have people who attempt to ensure that surplus dogs in the pound don't
get killed but no one even trys with cats,

There are cat protection societies just like with dogs.

And even in that soggy little frigid island,
most of the surplus cats are killed.

And that's where I tried to get my first cat from, except they'd run out!

Because you hairy legged cross dressers eat them.

What do you 'think' haggis is made from ?

Which only goes to show there are not enough cats.

Even sillier than you usually manage.

its just not possible except where you barbarians eat them.

"You barbarians"? I think you'll find that's the Chinese.

They arent silly enough to eat haggis.

and claiming we have more rights than them.

Corse we do.

Says who?

Says anyone with even half a clue.

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On Sunday, 23 April 2017 21:28:26 UTC+1, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Sun, 23 Apr 2017 20:11:57 +0100, ARW

wrote:

On 23/04/2017 18:51, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Sun, 23 Apr 2017 07:14:36 +0100, ARW

wrote:

On 23/04/2017 04:34, Mike Tomlinson wrote:
En el artículo , Bob Eager
escribió:

Can we have more of Mike's kittens, please?

Coming soon. Promise.


Probably for the last time.

It will be soon time for them to go to new homes (apart from the
one
you
are keeping).

Book mother and daughter in for the snip at the same time, or we
will
have pictures of filthy sluts grand kittens in a couple of
months:-)

Why do so many people have this crazy idea that we should mutilate
all
cat's genitalia? How would you feel if the government forced you
to
have your testicles removed? It's barbaric.

I can use a condom.

The point is we should never remove the choice of a person (or
animal).

What if they haven't the ability to judge the situation they are in ?

Since cats have been around for millennia, I think they're doing just
fine.

How they evolved and modern situation is very different.

Modern situation is artificial, created by us.

Sure, but that is the one we are talking about castrating and desexing cats
in.

No need to. Let them live their own life. They aren't big destructive animals like elephants.

And they manage in that too.

No they don't population wise.

Reducing their numbers by mutilating them is inhumane.

So its much more humane to wait for them
to turn into adult cats and kill them then ?

Don't kill them at all.

No point in un interfering

The alternative is to have lots of people killing surplus adult cats..

Surplus cats are not harmful,

Corse they are.

They are 50 times smaller than we are. We don't cull birds.

it's not as though they're capable of killing people.

There are more harms than just being killed.

Like?

We have people who attempt to ensure that surplus dogs in the pound don't
get killed but no one even trys with cats,

There are cat protection societies just like with dogs.

And even in that soggy little frigid island,
most of the surplus cats are killed.

There aren't surplus cats.

And that's where I tried to get my first cat from, except they'd run out!

Because you hairy legged cross dressers eat them.

No, because too many people neuter their cats.

What do you 'think' haggis is made from ?

Almost nobody eats that revolting stuff.

Which only goes to show there are not enough cats.

Even sillier than you usually manage.

If there were none left, then we are over-culling them.

its just not possible except where you barbarians eat them.

"You barbarians"? I think you'll find that's the Chinese.

They arent silly enough to eat haggis.

But they do eat cats and dogs. Legally.

and claiming we have more rights than them.

Corse we do.

Says who?

Says anyone with even half a clue.

So you don't have a reason then, thought so.

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On Sunday, 23 April 2017 21:28:26 UTC+1, James Wilkinson Sword
wrote:
On Sun, 23 Apr 2017 20:11:57 +0100, ARW

wrote:

On 23/04/2017 18:51, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Sun, 23 Apr 2017 07:14:36 +0100, ARW

wrote:

On 23/04/2017 04:34, Mike Tomlinson wrote:
En el artículo , Bob Eager
escribió:

Can we have more of Mike's kittens, please?

Coming soon. Promise.


Probably for the last time.

It will be soon time for them to go to new homes (apart from the
one
you
are keeping).

Book mother and daughter in for the snip at the same time, or we
will
have pictures of filthy sluts grand kittens in a couple of
months:-)

Why do so many people have this crazy idea that we should
mutilate
all
cat's genitalia? How would you feel if the government forced you
to
have your testicles removed? It's barbaric.

I can use a condom.

The point is we should never remove the choice of a person (or
animal).

What if they haven't the ability to judge the situation they are in ?

Since cats have been around for millennia, I think they're doing just
fine.

How they evolved and modern situation is very different.

Modern situation is artificial, created by us.

Sure, but that is the one we are talking about castrating and desexing
cats
in.

No need to. Let them live their own life.

Doesn't work, you have to kill too many as adult cats.

They aren't big destructive animals like elephants.

Sure, but enough of a nuisance that they
get trapped and taken to the pound and
killed there because no one wants them.

And they manage in that too.

No they don't population wise.

Reducing their numbers by mutilating them is inhumane.

So its much more humane to wait for them
to turn into adult cats and kill them then ?

Don't kill them at all.

Too expensive to keep feeding an ever growing
collection of cats furiously breeding at the pound.

No point in un interfering

The alternative is to have lots of people killing surplus adult cats.

Surplus cats are not harmful,

Corse they are.

They are 50 times smaller than we are.

Rats and mice are even smaller and we kill them too.

We don't cull birds.

We do when they start munching on the rice crop.

it's not as though they're capable of killing people.

There are more harms than just being killed.

Like?

Going feral.

We have people who attempt to ensure that surplus dogs in the pound
don't get killed but no one even trys with cats,

There are cat protection societies just like with dogs.

And even in that soggy little frigid island,
most of the surplus cats are killed.

There aren't surplus cats.

You seriously trying to claim that no pound ever kills any
surplus cats anywhere on that soggy little frigid island ?

You need to get out more.

And that's where I tried to get my first cat from, except they'd run
out!

Because you hairy legged cross dressers eat them.

No, because too many people neuter their cats.

What do you 'think' haggis is made from ?

Almost nobody eats that revolting stuff.

Don't believe that. I just saw a video of the head of the Campbells
handing it out at their 'best of the west' pigout fest.

Which only goes to show there are not enough cats.

Even sillier than you usually manage.

If there were none left,

There are plenty left. You've got 6 of the ****ers.

then we are over-culling them.

Nope, just desexing them so you don't get infested with them.

its just not possible except where you barbarians eat them.

"You barbarians"? I think you'll find that's the Chinese.

They arent silly enough to eat haggis.

But they do eat cats and dogs. Legally.

Not anymore. And its never been legal
on that soggy little frigid island of yours.

and claiming we have more rights than them.

Corse we do.

Says who?

Says anyone with even half a clue.

So you don't have a reason then,

Wrong, as always.

thought so.

Obvious lie.

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No one has got within a bulls roar of him for centurys.

Even Vlad the Impaler wasn't a patch on him.

Trump and BNP are getting there.

Hmm, Trump is a God lover.

So was Hitler,

Like hell he was.

Catholic apparently.

Nope, he never bothered to go to church as an adult.

Didn't bother with a priest when he killed himself either.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religi...f_Adolf_Hitler
agrees with you. I blame Bod for giving me false information. I did used to think he was an atheist.

but he still managed to get rid of a load of competing god lovers.

And then they got rid of him.

He got more of them then they got of him.

Not with the yanks, they killed a lot
more krauts than the krauts killed yanks.

But how many religious nuts were killed vs. atheists?

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On 22/04/2017 15:04, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Fri, 21 Apr 2017 20:03:18 +0100, Rod Speed

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No one has got within a bulls roar of him for centurys.

Even Vlad the Impaler wasn't a patch on him.

Trump and BNP are getting there.

Hmm, Trump is a God lover.

So was Hitler,

Like hell he was.

Catholic apparently.

Nope, he never bothered to go to church as an adult.

Didn't bother with a priest when he killed himself either.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religi...f_Adolf_Hitler
agrees with you.

Yeah, its pretty accurate.

I blame Bod for giving me false information.

Yeah, have him summarily executed forthwith.

Bullet in the back of the neck is the way to go.

I did used to think he was an atheist.

Nar, just another stupid god botherer.

but he still managed to get rid of a load of competing god lovers.

And then they got rid of him.

He got more of them then they got of him.

Not with the yanks, they killed a lot
more krauts than the krauts killed yanks.

But how many religious nuts were killed vs. atheists?

Hard to say because it's a tad hard to define a religious nut.

Heaps more god botherers than atheist tho, just because
there will always be heaps more than need a crutch for
their pathetic excuses for 'minds' than don't.

On Tuesday, 25 April 2017 18:09:10 UTC+1, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Tue, 25 Apr 2017 12:21:31 +0100, whisky-dave wrote:

On Sunday, 23 April 2017 19:16:52 UTC+1, wrote:
On Sunday, 23 April 2017 17:56:12 UTC+1, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
Meanwhile someone's house is burning down.

I'm sure they have the ability to prioritise calls

Could be an advantage if they are already out on call means they habve their gear on the the engine is on the road.

Rubbish. Otherwise they'd move the fire station to that place and leave their gear on all day.

A mate of mines brother was a fireman he knows what he's talking about unlike you.
Their gear is in the firestation, near where they keep the fire engines and other appliences they use.




It's also a bit of practice for new recruits. if you haventl the skills to climb a ladder to rescue a cat you shouldn't be relied upon to rescue humans.

Those skills are learned as a child.

Says the person that can't work out where is feet are in relation to his shoes and the door frame.
My mates brother didn;t leant how to raise a ladder ona fire engine as a child.
he culd climb trees but he never learned how to correctyl carry someone down from a tree or property until he joined the fire service.



They can rescue people from non-fires if they like, but a cat is not
worth consuming their time when a person could be in danger elsewhere.

Depends on the person.

Yes is this one of those Hitler Qs ;-)

You say that like it's a bad thing.

If you had the chance of saving a cat from a tree or saving a Hitler from a house fore whatv would you have done, bith before the war and after perhaps.


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Not many people have used a dove to kill someone but it's easier to grap a pillow and sufforcat someone with it, of course youm would probbley choose a dove for such a purpose ;-P

On Wednesday, 26 April 2017 11:46:57 UTC+1, whisky-dave wrote:
Not many people have used a dove to kill someone

But pigeons have been used in wartime to carry messages from spies, so are instruments of war.

Owain

On Wed, 26 Apr 2017 19:50:50 +0100, wrote:

On Wednesday, 26 April 2017 11:46:57 UTC+1, whisky-dave wrote:
Not many people have used a dove to kill someone

But pigeons have been used in wartime to carry messages from spies, so are instruments of war.

ROFL! A war pigeon.

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/8zmL9_-oB9k/maxresdefault.jpg

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On Wed, 26 Apr 2017 11:50:50 -0700, spuorgelgoog wrote:

On Wednesday, 26 April 2017 11:46:57 UTC+1, whisky-dave wrote:
Not many people have used a dove to kill someone

But pigeons have been used in wartime to carry messages from spies, so
are instruments of war.

http://www.popularmechanics.com/mili...-bomb-guiding-
pigeon-plan/


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On Mon, 17 Apr 2017 16:23:38 +0100, T i m wrote:

On Mon, 17 Apr 2017 14:05:21 +0100, ARW
wrote:

snip

The dog was found late at night. It was taken to the vets the next
morning and it was microchipped.

That was something at least.

It was returned to it's slack owners
later that day.

Ok.

OOI, I was talking to the local Council 'Dog catcher' the other day re
the law and owners not microchipping their dogs as I believe it is now
a legal requirement (£500 fine for not doing since April 2016 I
believe).

One more step towards a police state, what's next microchipping people's children?

Apparently, if an owner comes to collect their dog they just charge
them the relevant collection / overnight fees and send them on their
way (even though 'local authorities' are supposed to 'police' the
microchipping thing)?


And yes I have posted that link before to this newsgroup, and yes I
already had a cat when I found the dog roaming the streets.

Makes sense then. ;-)

Cheers, T i m

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Like opening a cat flap. You just push. There's no complicated handles
or catches, but every single bloody time they stroke it, claw at it, try
to rub it different ways....

Cant say I have ever had cat that does that.

Some cats don't like pushing with their head and prefer pulling.
Other times they maybe doing it to amuse themselves in some way.

Or they're just stupid.

Just walk through damn it!

Didn't some of Dave the drunk's cats do that ?

Some run through, other might stroll through.

It's most funny when they spot me operating the hoover and charge through it, especially when two try at the same time.

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On 18/04/2017 11:00, T i m wrote:
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Or for pursuing criminals who are running away from
the cops either. Corse a ****ing great alsatian is likely
to be a seen as a tad more threatening by the average
running crim too.

I'm pretty certain a similarly sized lion/tiger would be
considered
more
threatening.


;-)

That could work as long as the handler wore armour, had the
beast
on
a
(long / strong) lead and the laws on keeping dangerous
animals
was
changed to allow the Police animals to actually kill crims
(as
I'm
not
sure the recall command would work as well on a lion as it
would
on
a
dog). ;-)

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/10...rning-hug.html

My ****ing great alsatian left that for dead.

He'd jump up and nip you on the cheek as a greeting.

Trouble is that he'd do that with visitors who showed up
enough
too
and
it was very difficult to predict when he was going to decide
that
they
were welcome visitors and do it for the first time with a
particular
visitor. With a huge great dog like that, it could give them
a
bit
of
a
fright.

If he never harms anyone, what's the problem?

No problem, its just better if the more timid
of the visitors don't get an unpleasant surprise.

Nah, it teaches them not to be afraid of dogs.

It doesn't teach them anything, those who are afraid of dogs
are even more afraid of dogs after that, because they decide
that they are even less predictable than they thought.

That's their problem.

It is indeed, but I'd prefer to not have them **** their pants at
my
place.

Humans are bigger and more intelligent than dogs. Being afraid of
them
is
pathetic.

You'd be afraid of him when he's well away.

One party trick was to look out the kitchen window and
say to the dog 'some burglar is stealing your BONES'

He'd go absolutely ****ing bananas.

I tried to get someone to go out in the backyard in that situation,
I recon I would have stopped if I had told him to, but no one was
ever game to try it, even those who knew a lot about dogs.

Huge great dog, massive across the chest and quite
spectacular when going absolutely ****ing bananas.

I used to have one Italian neighbour who used to borrow garden
tools.
As
with most dogs, mine went ****ing bananas when he showed up,
because
he
was obviously terrified of dogs. Wasn't long before he wasn't
even
game
to knock on the door and ask to borrow anything.

Oh dear. I have no problem with any dog. Very few attack me.

I've only been bitten twice, once when I was still a young
kid wandering around the lion cages when the circus was
in town. I didn't even notice that there was a dog chained
up under one of the cages until it bit me on the leg.

Those that do get my foot in their face.

That would be a great way to end up ****ed over very
comprehensively
indeed if you were ever actually stupid enough to try it with mine.

There's a reason the cops use them and not one crim ever
gets away with doing something like that with those.

We can use tools, they can't.

Have fun finding a tool other than a gun that works I that situation.

And it would need to be a shortened shotty too.

Brick, stone from a rockery....

Wouldn't work, you'd get savaged trying to find the brick or rock.

I can find it with a quick glance. Most gardens have rocks.

The problem isnt finding the rock, its not getting savaged picking it up.

I can kick.

A well trained dog will grab it and rip it off.

Never met one.

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What revolts me is my cat eats her kittens ****.

This is to protect the kittens from infection
(their immune systems won't be fully developed)
and from the smell attracting predators
(the kittens haven't learned to bury it yet).

Surely she should carry it or bury it or something?
Digesting it is only going to make her ill.

It doesn't with cats and dogs.

Imagine what would happen to your gut if you
were to eat all the **** 5 of your babies produced.

Cats work differently to humans.

Cats are pure minging!

Chrome failed to translate.

Find a Scots dictionary.

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On 18/04/2017 11:00, T i m wrote:
On Tue, 18 Apr 2017 02:45:29 -0700 (PDT),

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On Tuesday, 18 April 2017 03:14:53 UTC+1, Rod Speed
wrote:

Or for pursuing criminals who are running away from
the cops either. Corse a ****ing great alsatian is
likely
to be a seen as a tad more threatening by the average
running crim too.

I'm pretty certain a similarly sized lion/tiger would be
considered
more
threatening.


;-)

That could work as long as the handler wore armour, had
the
beast
on
a
(long / strong) lead and the laws on keeping dangerous
animals
was
changed to allow the Police animals to actually kill
crims
(as
I'm
not
sure the recall command would work as well on a lion as
it
would
on
a
dog). ;-)

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/10...rning-hug.html

My ****ing great alsatian left that for dead.

He'd jump up and nip you on the cheek as a greeting.

Trouble is that he'd do that with visitors who showed up
enough
too
and
it was very difficult to predict when he was going to
decide
that
they
were welcome visitors and do it for the first time with a
particular
visitor. With a huge great dog like that, it could give
them
a
bit
of
a
fright.

If he never harms anyone, what's the problem?

No problem, its just better if the more timid
of the visitors don't get an unpleasant surprise.

Nah, it teaches them not to be afraid of dogs.

It doesn't teach them anything, those who are afraid of dogs
are even more afraid of dogs after that, because they decide
that they are even less predictable than they thought.

That's their problem.

It is indeed, but I'd prefer to not have them **** their pants at
my
place.

Humans are bigger and more intelligent than dogs. Being afraid
of
them
is
pathetic.

You'd be afraid of him when he's well away.

One party trick was to look out the kitchen window and
say to the dog 'some burglar is stealing your BONES'

He'd go absolutely ****ing bananas.

I tried to get someone to go out in the backyard in that
situation,
I recon I would have stopped if I had told him to, but no one was
ever game to try it, even those who knew a lot about dogs.

Huge great dog, massive across the chest and quite
spectacular when going absolutely ****ing bananas.

I used to have one Italian neighbour who used to borrow garden
tools.
As
with most dogs, mine went ****ing bananas when he showed up,
because
he
was obviously terrified of dogs. Wasn't long before he wasn't
even
game
to knock on the door and ask to borrow anything.

Oh dear. I have no problem with any dog. Very few attack me.

I've only been bitten twice, once when I was still a young
kid wandering around the lion cages when the circus was
in town. I didn't even notice that there was a dog chained
up under one of the cages until it bit me on the leg.

Those that do get my foot in their face.

That would be a great way to end up ****ed over very
comprehensively
indeed if you were ever actually stupid enough to try it with
mine.

There's a reason the cops use them and not one crim ever
gets away with doing something like that with those.

We can use tools, they can't.

Have fun finding a tool other than a gun that works I that
situation.

And it would need to be a shortened shotty too.

Brick, stone from a rockery....

Wouldn't work, you'd get savaged trying to find the brick or rock.

I can find it with a quick glance. Most gardens have rocks.

The problem isnt finding the rock, its not getting savaged picking it
up.

I can kick.

A well trained dog will grab it and rip it off.

Never met one.

Yes, its usually only stupid criminals that get to meet those.

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What revolts me is my cat eats her kittens ****.

This is to protect the kittens from infection
(their immune systems won't be fully developed)
and from the smell attracting predators
(the kittens haven't learned to bury it yet).

Surely she should carry it or bury it or something?
Digesting it is only going to make her ill.

It doesn't with cats and dogs.

Imagine what would happen to your gut if you
were to eat all the **** 5 of your babies produced.

Cats work differently to humans.

Cats are pure minging!

Chrome failed to translate.

Find a Scots dictionary.

No such animal. You ****ers are illiterate.

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What revolts me is my cat eats her kittens ****.

This is to protect the kittens from infection
(their immune systems won't be fully developed)
and from the smell attracting predators
(the kittens haven't learned to bury it yet).

Surely she should carry it or bury it or something?
Digesting it is only going to make her ill.

It doesn't with cats and dogs.

Imagine what would happen to your gut if you
were to eat all the **** 5 of your babies produced.

Cats work differently to humans.

Cats are pure minging!

Chrome failed to translate.

Find a Scots dictionary.

No such animal. You ****ers are illiterate.

Agreed, but I'm not one of them.

And actually the word's British not Scottish: https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/minging

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wrote:

Or for pursuing criminals who are running away from
the cops either. Corse a ****ing great alsatian is
likely
to be a seen as a tad more threatening by the average
running crim too.

I'm pretty certain a similarly sized lion/tiger would be
considered
more
threatening.


;-)

That could work as long as the handler wore armour, had
the
beast
on
a
(long / strong) lead and the laws on keeping dangerous
animals
was
changed to allow the Police animals to actually kill
crims
(as
I'm
not
sure the recall command would work as well on a lion as
it
would
on
a
dog). ;-)

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/10...rning-hug.html

My ****ing great alsatian left that for dead.

He'd jump up and nip you on the cheek as a greeting.

Trouble is that he'd do that with visitors who showed up
enough
too
and
it was very difficult to predict when he was going to
decide
that
they
were welcome visitors and do it for the first time with a
particular
visitor. With a huge great dog like that, it could give
them
a
bit
of
a
fright.

If he never harms anyone, what's the problem?

No problem, its just better if the more timid
of the visitors don't get an unpleasant surprise.

Nah, it teaches them not to be afraid of dogs.

It doesn't teach them anything, those who are afraid of dogs
are even more afraid of dogs after that, because they decide
that they are even less predictable than they thought.

That's their problem.

It is indeed, but I'd prefer to not have them **** their pants at
my
place.

Humans are bigger and more intelligent than dogs. Being afraid
of
them
is
pathetic.

You'd be afraid of him when he's well away.

One party trick was to look out the kitchen window and
say to the dog 'some burglar is stealing your BONES'

He'd go absolutely ****ing bananas.

I tried to get someone to go out in the backyard in that
situation,
I recon I would have stopped if I had told him to, but no one was
ever game to try it, even those who knew a lot about dogs.

Huge great dog, massive across the chest and quite
spectacular when going absolutely ****ing bananas.

I used to have one Italian neighbour who used to borrow garden
tools.
As
with most dogs, mine went ****ing bananas when he showed up,
because
he
was obviously terrified of dogs. Wasn't long before he wasn't
even
game
to knock on the door and ask to borrow anything.

Oh dear. I have no problem with any dog. Very few attack me.

I've only been bitten twice, once when I was still a young
kid wandering around the lion cages when the circus was
in town. I didn't even notice that there was a dog chained
up under one of the cages until it bit me on the leg.

Those that do get my foot in their face.

That would be a great way to end up ****ed over very
comprehensively
indeed if you were ever actually stupid enough to try it with
mine.

There's a reason the cops use them and not one crim ever
gets away with doing something like that with those.

We can use tools, they can't.

Have fun finding a tool other than a gun that works I that
situation.

And it would need to be a shortened shotty too.

Brick, stone from a rockery....

Wouldn't work, you'd get savaged trying to find the brick or rock.

I can find it with a quick glance. Most gardens have rocks.

The problem isnt finding the rock, its not getting savaged picking it
up.

I can kick.

A well trained dog will grab it and rip it off.

Never met one.

Yes, its usually only stupid criminals that get to meet those.

Is there a substance a dog would love to eat that will give it catastrophic diarrhoea? Be a good way to get back at folk who have dogs that try to remove your fingers when you post something though their letterbox.

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to come back when called, not so

All the kittens with the exception of one now come when
called.

They don't even recognise their own name.
It's a real rocket scientist cat that can do that.
They actually come when you make noises that indicate food
is
being
served.

I have 5 cats. If I yell one of their names, that one and
that
one
only
will run out of the cat flap. Mind you, maybe it realises
it's
the
one
that was misbehaving.

Yep, nothing to do with its name, everything to do with
your tone of voice and what it knows its been up to.

You can prove that trivially any time by
shouting YOU ****ER instead of its name.

Dogs are just as stupid, they don't come to their owner if they
don't
feel
like it.

Depends on the dogs. You'll never get cats to respond
to the commands of their owners like the best of the
herding dogs do. They don't ever ignore their owners.

One thing cats are no good at is learning simple physical
activities.

Dunno, that russian circus fella clearly knows how to do that.

Not clear how long it took him to get them to do that stuff tho.

Like opening a cat flap. You just push. There's no complicated
handles
or catches, but every single bloody time they stroke it, claw at
it,
try
to rub it different ways....

Cant say I have ever had cat that does that.

50% of cats I've had do that.

Presumably those in your area are ****ed in the head that way.

Maybe. Most Scots are thick.

The other stupid thing they do is two try to go through at once,
which
usually results in the destruction of the catflap.

Wouldn't happen with one I made.

Very big flap?

Nope, one made from a sheet of 1/8" sheet of aluminium
with a rod welded to the top edge that acts as the hinge.

Coupla cats trying to get thru that a once wouldn't damage it.

Don't they have to be see-through so the cat can tell it can get
through?

Nope.

Then why are the commercial ones made so?

Just the usual fashion/fad stuff or their customers by more
of those because they don't understand how cats operate.

Watch those videos of Dave's, those cats don't look thru the
door before trying to use it. They know from the smell and
the appearance it's a cat flap. They arent stupid.

If you have several cats, a transparent one would prevent them from both going through at once. Otherwise this could happen: https://youtu.be/1U1jSGib-NA?t=1m49s

The commercial ones are all made of transparent plastic.

Sheet of 1/8" perspex would survive 2 cats trying to get thru at once
too.

Commercial ones are not that tough.

Yep, lousy design.

I can only find two models. One lasts about 2 weeks, the other lasts about a year.

The standard size happens to fit nicely where one pane of glass was in
the
door.

There is no pane of glass in Daves door.

And the panes of glass in my patio doors are 4'x7'6"

That would be an enormous catflap. No wonder you get burglars.

But it's a lot easier to train a cat or kitten to use a litter tray
than a dog.

Interesting Mike's latest that his are already so
instinctive that they swarm to the tray when
he puts clean litter in it and have a **** fest.

You'd never get puppys doing that.

Or my cats. If the litter tray is not there or full, they **** in the
shower. They do seem to know that ****ting on the carpet will make me
very angry.

Presumably because they are a lot more fussy than dogs.

What revolts me is my cat eats her kittens ****.

Plenty of dogs eat their own ****.

That makes them even stupider.

Its got nothing to do with intelligence, they evolved
like that. Just like cats did with kitten ****.

Eating a waste product is not a good idea.

Works fine for cats and dogs.

Does it?

Corse it does. If it had health downsides for
them, they would have evolved differently.

Maybe they are unhealthy. They do only live for 15-20 years.

We live longer and are more intelligent.

For different reasons entirely.

Which are?

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What revolts me is my cat eats her kittens ****.

This is to protect the kittens from infection
(their immune systems won't be fully developed)
and from the smell attracting predators
(the kittens haven't learned to bury it yet).

Surely she should carry it or bury it or something?
Digesting it is only going to make her ill.

It doesn't with cats and dogs.

Imagine what would happen to your gut if you
were to eat all the **** 5 of your babies produced.

Cats work differently to humans.

Cats are pure minging!

Chrome failed to translate.

Find a Scots dictionary.

No such animal. You ****ers are illiterate.

Agreed, but I'm not one of them.

And actually the word's British not Scottish:
https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/minging

Then you should be burnt at the stake, again.

And don't scream so loudly this time, it wakes
everyone up. Worse than a faulty alarm.

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Or for pursuing criminals who are running away from
the cops either. Corse a ****ing great alsatian is
likely
to be a seen as a tad more threatening by the average
running crim too.

I'm pretty certain a similarly sized lion/tiger would
be
considered
more
threatening.


;-)

That could work as long as the handler wore armour, had
the
beast
on
a
(long / strong) lead and the laws on keeping dangerous
animals
was
changed to allow the Police animals to actually kill
crims
(as
I'm
not
sure the recall command would work as well on a lion as
it
would
on
a
dog). ;-)

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/10...rning-hug.html

My ****ing great alsatian left that for dead.

He'd jump up and nip you on the cheek as a greeting.

Trouble is that he'd do that with visitors who showed up
enough
too
and
it was very difficult to predict when he was going to
decide
that
they
were welcome visitors and do it for the first time with a
particular
visitor. With a huge great dog like that, it could give
them
a
bit
of
a
fright.

If he never harms anyone, what's the problem?

No problem, its just better if the more timid
of the visitors don't get an unpleasant surprise.

Nah, it teaches them not to be afraid of dogs.

It doesn't teach them anything, those who are afraid of dogs
are even more afraid of dogs after that, because they decide
that they are even less predictable than they thought.

That's their problem.

It is indeed, but I'd prefer to not have them **** their pants
at
my
place.

Humans are bigger and more intelligent than dogs. Being
afraid
of
them
is
pathetic.

You'd be afraid of him when he's well away.

One party trick was to look out the kitchen window and
say to the dog 'some burglar is stealing your BONES'

He'd go absolutely ****ing bananas.

I tried to get someone to go out in the backyard in that
situation,
I recon I would have stopped if I had told him to, but no one
was
ever game to try it, even those who knew a lot about dogs.

Huge great dog, massive across the chest and quite
spectacular when going absolutely ****ing bananas.

I used to have one Italian neighbour who used to borrow
garden
tools.
As
with most dogs, mine went ****ing bananas when he showed up,
because
he
was obviously terrified of dogs. Wasn't long before he wasn't
even
game
to knock on the door and ask to borrow anything.

Oh dear. I have no problem with any dog. Very few attack me.

I've only been bitten twice, once when I was still a young
kid wandering around the lion cages when the circus was
in town. I didn't even notice that there was a dog chained
up under one of the cages until it bit me on the leg.

Those that do get my foot in their face.

That would be a great way to end up ****ed over very
comprehensively
indeed if you were ever actually stupid enough to try it with
mine.

There's a reason the cops use them and not one crim ever
gets away with doing something like that with those.

We can use tools, they can't.

Have fun finding a tool other than a gun that works I that
situation.

And it would need to be a shortened shotty too.

Brick, stone from a rockery....

Wouldn't work, you'd get savaged trying to find the brick or rock.

I can find it with a quick glance. Most gardens have rocks.

The problem isnt finding the rock, its not getting savaged picking it
up.

I can kick.

A well trained dog will grab it and rip it off.

Never met one.

Yes, its usually only stupid criminals that get to meet those.

Is there a substance a dog would love to eat that will give it
catastrophic diarrhoea?

Nope, dogs can eat anything, even rotting
carcases and never get catastrophic diarrhoea.

Be a good way to get back at folk who have dogs that try to remove your
fingers when you post something though their letterbox.

You could try those chain mail gloves used by incompetent
butchers to avoid cutting their own fingers off but the worst
of the dogs have one hell of a bite and you would likely just
end up with your fingers crushed inside the glove.

And its unlikely that anyone you who you made their dog
have catastrophic diarrhoea would choose to buy anything
from you when you return anyway, even if that was possible.

They're more likely to rub your nose in it.

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to come back when called, not so

All the kittens with the exception of one now come when
called.

They don't even recognise their own name.
It's a real rocket scientist cat that can do that.
They actually come when you make noises that indicate food
is
being
served.

I have 5 cats. If I yell one of their names, that one and
that
one
only
will run out of the cat flap. Mind you, maybe it realises
it's
the
one
that was misbehaving.

Yep, nothing to do with its name, everything to do with
your tone of voice and what it knows its been up to.

You can prove that trivially any time by
shouting YOU ****ER instead of its name.

Dogs are just as stupid, they don't come to their owner if
they
don't
feel
like it.

Depends on the dogs. You'll never get cats to respond
to the commands of their owners like the best of the
herding dogs do. They don't ever ignore their owners.

One thing cats are no good at is learning simple physical
activities.

Dunno, that russian circus fella clearly knows how to do that.

Not clear how long it took him to get them to do that stuff tho.

Like opening a cat flap. You just push. There's no complicated
handles
or catches, but every single bloody time they stroke it, claw at
it,
try
to rub it different ways....

Cant say I have ever had cat that does that.

50% of cats I've had do that.

Presumably those in your area are ****ed in the head that way.

Maybe. Most Scots are thick.

The other stupid thing they do is two try to go through at once,
which
usually results in the destruction of the catflap.

Wouldn't happen with one I made.

Very big flap?

Nope, one made from a sheet of 1/8" sheet of aluminium
with a rod welded to the top edge that acts as the hinge.

Coupla cats trying to get thru that a once wouldn't damage it.

Don't they have to be see-through so the cat can tell it can get
through?

Nope.

Then why are the commercial ones made so?

Just the usual fashion/fad stuff or their customers by more
of those because they don't understand how cats operate.

Watch those videos of Dave's, those cats don't look thru the
door before trying to use it. They know from the smell and
the appearance it's a cat flap. They arent stupid.

If you have several cats, a transparent one would prevent them from both
going through at once.

I'm not convinced. Why can't the cats see the flap moving
and realise that another cat is coming thru the other way ?

Otherwise this could happen: https://youtu.be/1U1jSGib-NA?t=1m49s

Unlikely with cats.

The commercial ones are all made of transparent plastic.

Sheet of 1/8" perspex would survive 2 cats trying to get thru at once
too.

Commercial ones are not that tough.

Yep, lousy design.

I can only find two models. One lasts about 2 weeks, the other lasts
about a year.

Mine would last as long as the house does.

The standard size happens to fit nicely where one pane of glass was
in
the
door.

There is no pane of glass in Daves door.

And the panes of glass in my patio doors are 4'x7'6"

That would be an enormous catflap. No wonder you get burglars.

But it's a lot easier to train a cat or kitten to use a litter
tray
than a dog.

Interesting Mike's latest that his are already so
instinctive that they swarm to the tray when
he puts clean litter in it and have a **** fest.

You'd never get puppys doing that.

Or my cats. If the litter tray is not there or full, they **** in the
shower. They do seem to know that ****ting on the carpet will make me
very angry.

Presumably because they are a lot more fussy than dogs.

What revolts me is my cat eats her kittens ****.

Plenty of dogs eat their own ****.

That makes them even stupider.

Its got nothing to do with intelligence, they evolved
like that. Just like cats did with kitten ****.

Eating a waste product is not a good idea.

Works fine for cats and dogs.

Does it?

Corse it does. If it had health downsides for
them, they would have evolved differently.

Maybe they are unhealthy.

Nope, they clearly survive doing that fine.

They do only live for 15-20 years.

That's due to something else entirely.

We live longer and are more intelligent.

For different reasons entirely.

Which are?

In the case of the live longer, its due
to the different way we have evolved.

In spades with intelligence.

Some trees live for millennia, doesn't say
anything useful about anything much.

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Yeah, that's a massive downside with dogs, particularly
the ones that just bark because they are bored out of
their minds with the owner at work etc.

Mine never did that but would bark at any
visitors even if the one visitor showed up say
10 times in the one day for some reason as
they keep borrowing stuff to do some diy etc.

You seem to lend a lot of tools.

Yeah, I do. Mainly because since I build my house from scratch
on a bare block of land, I have a lot more tools than anyone
else does and don't mind lending them as long as its likely they
wont get buggered or will be replaced if they do get buggered.

Even now, because of the garage sales where the stuff is so cheap
that I always get something like a ladder or vice or still or
beer
capper that is better than what I currently have, I have lots
more
of almost everything than almost everyone I know.

I have something like 15 beer brewing barrel and so am the
obvious one to borrow one from if you need to borrow one.

You must be popular with your neighbours.

Yeah, I know them all and lend most of them quite a bit of stuff.
Respond first when their alarm goes off too, although another
of the neighbours is usually there pretty soon after I am.

Why bother?

Because we have all been burgled at one time or another.

I haven't.

You will be.

Most people never are.

Bull****. Bet you can't find a single
person in here that has never been.

48 houses in my street of 50.

What kind of place do you live in?

Just the same as most people where burglarys do happen.

Only happens regularly in cities here.

Bull****.

No, it's true. We aren't all thieves like you lot. Only cities full of
pakis have that problem.

In 17 years in my street of 50 houses (in a small town), there have been
two burglaries, both non-standard.

That's because you're all povs/chavs with nothing work taking.

It's the chavvy areas where they have more thefts. They steal from each
other.

One was some golf clubs out of the boot of an open car. The other was a
living room double glazing unit that had just been put in. Never known
any house contents to go.

Then why does everyone have alarms that
you want to smash when they false trigger ?

They don't, there are only two alarms at this end of the street.

The house one house away has just recently been burnt to the ground
by
a
complete ****ing loony, fortunately when the owners were away on
holiday.

Are Aussies all neanderthals or something?

Nope, this one was quite literally barking mad. She was 'living'
up in the roof of what you lot call a council house because she
believed that her place was inhabited by demons. That's why
she torched the place next but one to my place, she believed
it was too.

Was she jailed?

Nar, off to the loony bin. Quite literally barking mad.

I fail to see the point, they can't cure it.

It stops them burning other houses down because
they believe they are infested with demons too.

So would jail.

We don't put them all in loony bins. We have one
'homeless' fella who is notorious in this town, you
see him walking around talking to himself quite a
bit. He gets a loaf of bread from a supermarket that
I usually visit after the garage sale run and one time
he was quite literally barking at the top of his voice
as he walked away with his loaf of bread in his hand.

Don't you have a police force?

Corse we do, but it isnt possible for cops
to avoid everything like that happening.

From what I've heard they seem to concentrate on the easy **** like
speeding motorists.

They didn't with this one and caught her quite quickly.

99.99999% of alarms are false.

It isnt as high as that with most of the neighbours.

It is here.

I don't believe that.

I must hear one every couple of weeks. Yet only two burglaries in 17
years.

So it isnt just your cats that are barking
mad, its all your neighbours too.

No, it's the alarms that are ****.

Annoying alarms with no burglar in sight.

Sure, most of ours are too, but nothing like that high a percentage.

People have motion/vibration sensors, probably picking up a cat through
the window or a bird hitting the window.

Our are mostly PIRs in the house.

Which will see movement of a cat.

Not with the best of the dual mode ones that
can work out the sized of what they see move.

Pity everyone doesn't use those. Something is causing false alarms and waking me up. And you.

If I call the police they don't care.

I go and check myself to see if it's a false alarm or not.

I don't, unless it's 3am, then I go and find out who I'm to yell at when
they return home.

I usually don't bother to ring the neighbour when their
system false alarms, he can see it on the alarm system
when he gets home and can see that I checked that it was
a false alarm from the camera footage that he checks now.

First question they ask is "can you see a burglar". If not, they
don't
bother coming out.

And that is the sensible way to operate.

Most burglars would hide out of sight if they saw someone looking.

Not even possible with my neighbour's place.

Must be a small place if they can't hide.

Nope, just nowhere to hide with the way I check everything.
Massive great pool and the immense shed take up most of
the backyard. There the fence down the side of the house is
about 6' from the side of the house and is one obvious place
to hide, but I always go down there because it's the obvious
place to try to jemmy a window where no one can see you.

The windows on the other side open onto the massive great
carport that is in front of the massive great brick garage and
anyone trying to jemmy one of those windows can be seen
from the street doing that.

It's up to us to take the alarm off the wall with a brick.

Ours time out. It's a legal requirement.

Legal requirement here, but there's a loophole. After 15 minutes it
must
shut off, but it's allowed to start again something like 5 minutes
later!

Yeah, ours do too, but they don't usually false alarm again immediately.

The ones here seem to run again and again until someone shuts them off.

Stupid design. None of ours do that.

They should sound for 15 minutes, then stop forever until they're reset.

Ours don't have to stop forever, they are welcome
to go off again if there is another alarm trigger.

Or the same one intermittently.

I have had the neighbours one do that the one time, forget what the
problem was, think one of the PIRs inside the house failed or something.

Alarms are a ****ing nuisance.

But do get the neighbours here checking when
they go off because we all know each other very
well indeed some of us for over 50 years now.

And here we realise that the electronics are too sensitive and have
probably detected a cat touching a pane of glass.

It was like that for a while, but retweeking the system fixed that.

Clearly installers or DIYers here are too stupid to do that.

He wasn't. Not that cheap to get it retweeked tho.

They aren't exactly complicated devices,

They are for that sort of false triggering in unusual situations.

Elaborate.

could do it themselves ffs.

He's very capable with machinery and pumped irrigation, he's
the mega farmer, but doesn't know much about electronics.

Anyway, even if each alarm that's installed gives only one false alarm
before being tweaked, that is WAY too much noise pollution. It's an
extremely irritating sound.

I'm not that obsessive. I'd rather they didn't ever false alarm,
but given that we have all been burgled at one time, I don't
mind having to put the phone in my pocket, wander around
their place checking if it's a false alarm and yawning when it is.

Didn't even mind it going off all thru the night the one time.

ALL NIGHT?! That would drive me insane enough to beat the **** out of the
fool that owned the alarm.

Yes, you are that loony.

I'd be so ****ed off I wouldn't care if I was done for assault.

Yes, you are that loony.

A sleepless night is completely unforgivable.

No system is ever perfect.

Which is why they shouldn't have them at all.

Even sillier than you usually manage.

Most people here do not have alarms. They aren't burgled. Perhaps your country should lock up more crims? Oh wait, you're all descended from them, maybe that's the problem?

The last time the grandkids had been there for a birthday party.
Everyone
had left and after a few days the helium had leaked out of a balloon up
on the ceiling and it drifted down to the floor and set the alarm off.

Which only goes to show alarms are not intelligent enough for their
task.

Sure. But it isnt economically practical to have a system
that allows for stuff like that with residential houses.

You don't see the banks systems false triggering with stuff like that.

Banks have a lot to lose. The extremely minor chance of losing a TV is
not enough to have an alarm.

You don't just lose the TV. And you don't lose the TV much anymore,
they're not exactly portable anymore and the stupid druggys that are
doing the burglarys don't have any way of moving stuff that big around.

There is nothing easy to carry that's worth much nowadays.

On one other occasion you could see where someone had tried
to jemmy a window and had got scared off by the alarm and had
put a chair against the back fence and gone over it on the way out.

I doubt a burglar would run away from an alarm here as nobody looks.

Bet they would keep an eye out for someone looking.

If the burglar is in the living room with the curtains shut, nobody can
see them.

I can see how they got into the house.

Not if they pry the door open then close it afterwards.

On another occasion the crim was visible on the surveillance
cameras that were installed after the previous incident.

Cameras are a much better idea than alarms. They don't wake everyone
up.

But don't warn the burglar off

They do if they're visible.

Nope, his a visible and gets the at least one fool trying it anyway.

Electric fences then.

You should also have hidden ones viewing the visible ones, so they can get
done for breaking them.

Only if they can be identified from the footage.
That's hardly ever true.

and are mostly pretty useless for putting the druggy burglar in jail.

A picture of him in the act of stealing is enough evidence.

Only if you can work out who it was.

Even with retail shops, the burglars usually have enough of
a clue to cover their faces with a balaclava etc so the footage
doesn't see one of the local cops say "that's that bugger fred
again" and frog march him off to the magistrate.

Burglary must be a big business over there.

Nope.

Well you got a lot more than I do.

Here it's just a few idiots that aren't bright enough to cover their
faces.

Yep, yours are all morons. Our arent.

Clever criminals. I guess that comes from the breeding. We should have sent your ancestors into the ocean not onto land.

And even if that's possible, he'll have flogged the stuff
to his drug dealer before the cops can find him anyway.

Legalise drugs, remove the problem.

Have fun listing even a single modern first or
second world country that has gone that route.

Just because it hasn't been tried doesn't mean it wouldn't work. Black market drugs cause crime. Legalised rugs (like alcohol) don't.

Much better to have the alarm go off, someone like me
show up and scare him off before he gets into the house.

And a ****ing loud bark too. One time I was over at
the shops around the corner which must be atleast
500m or more away and it was perfectly obviously
that a visitor had showed up at my place.

Remote burglar alarm.

Yeah, didn't work with work tho, much too far away to hear.

And no one was ever game to try stealing anything
with that ****ing great alsatian inside the house
going bananas at anyone stupid enough to try it.

Why are people scared of dogs?

Why are people scared of mice, spiders, snakes etc ?

Spiders are disgusting,

Only if you are neurotic about spiders.

More legs than body, simply wrong.

No reason to be scared of them.

I'm more disgusted than scared.

No reason to be disgusted either.

More leg than body, that's simply wrong.

No reason to be disgusted about that.

Disgustion (that really should be a word) is not something you can control.

Our ****ing great huntsmans that can be as big as your hand
are quite interesting. I had one as pet when I was a kid.

YUCK!

You're actually terrified of them, like stupid women and mice.

The world would be better off without them.

I just squash the redbacks. Let the daddy long legs do their thing.

I do fly spray the bugger that insists on living in my car wing
mirrors, but that's because its web is a nuisance there.

I hoover up spiders and other insects, then seal the end of the pipe. By
the time the bag is emptied, they're all dead.

I don't bother to hoover at all, complete waste of time.

You never hoover your house?!

Ever had one enter your mouth while you're sleeping?

I don't sleep with my mouth open.

How do you know?

I don't get a dry mouth.

Saliva.

Not if you're sleeping with your mouth open.

How would that stop saliva?

I don't snore either.

Neither do I, I was told I don't. But observing if someone sleeps with
their mouth open would be unusual.

Not with viable parents it isnt.

Your parents watch you sleeping?

I'd rather they didn't exist on the planet.

They likely feel the same way about you.

That's their problem. I can stand on them and kill them. I am
superior.

Cant stand on daddy long legs, they are up at ceiling level.

That's what the hoover is for. We have tool use.

Stupid waste of my time. I've got much better things to
do that hoover up spiders because I am terrified of them.

I like a clean house. They don't pay rent, they don't live here, simple.

a lot of snakes are poisonous.

Hardly any of them are.

Prove it.

Look at the stats.

Actually ALL snakes are venemous.

Pigs arse they are. Pythons kill by
wrapping themselves around the prey.

They're still venemous.

Nope.

Yes, just not deadly venom.

It's the way we evolved presumably.

Same reason most cats are scared of cucumbers etc.

I tried that with mine, all 5 did nothing.

Sure, but yours are clearly damned weird. Not one of the cats
in those videos of Dave's do anything like yours do with cat flaps.

And mine aren't stupid enough to react to a dead vegetable.

But clearly some are.

I tried 6 cats!

Sure but they are so inbred that they are barking mad.

Jumping at a cucumber is mad.

Sure, its likely some evolutionary quirk.

Mine don't do that, so they're more sensible.

Too stupid to even notice the cucumber more likely.

They see it and ignore it, like any other object placed next to them.

Those youtube videos arent faked.

Probably American cats, they're probably as stupid as the people.

Neither are dave's cat flap videos.

Pretty easy to kill/stun/scare off a dog using a heavy implement.

You wont do that with the big dogs.

A rock slammed into their face would stop them.

Nope, you'd get savaged picking up the rock.

I'd like to see them try.

Plenty of crims not only see them try, they feel them do it.

Then their reactions are slower than mine.

Nope, you don't have a ****ing clue how those dogs operate.

Never had a problem with people's big dogs here, including ones I've been
told will remove my hand.

You've never come across the ones trained to go after crims.

We don't have enough crims to need them.

On several occasions I've been caught petting a huge dog and the owner
comes running out worried I'm going to get injured.

Sure, most dog owners don't have a ****ing clue about dogs.

Agreed.

Or burrrrglarrr alarrrrrum as they say in Glasgow.

And he had the cheek to report me for noisy parrots.

Yeah, they can be quite noisy. I have a long run of very
big gum trees etc down the 100' long side of the house
and we get big swarms of galahs, 50-100 birds in the
flock, show up and all camp overnight in my trees,
jabbering away to each other about the state of my jungle.

I blocked off my bedroom window with sound insulation so I can't
hear
the
neighbours when I'm in bed.

I only have massive great 8'x8' patio doors instead of
windows in the bedrooms and the heavy armoured
glass is surprisingly effective against most noise.

Armoured glass?

Toughened glass so even if you try walking thru it by accident,

Most people aren't that stupid.

Yes, but the law requires that with patio doors because some
are and the results can be very dramatic when they do that.

Why does the law protect the stupid?

Because they can be kids who don't know any better etc.

Being a kid is no excuse for being as stupid as a housefly.

All kids have to learn stuff.

They should learn what glass is long before they're walking about on their
own.

Not that it isnt hard to try walking thru a massive great patio door.

Eh?

My parrots don't fly into the window....

I regularly get birds trying to fly thru mine, mainly because the
main room has 5 massive great 8'x8' patio doors, 2 on one side
and 3 on the other.

Try these: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/122383941716

All that does is make the next generation even more useless than the
current one.

We do in fact do a lot better than cave men did.
They couldn't drive cars and fly planes etc.

They probably could if they existed.

Nope, we know they can't because people showed up in
them with the few remaining savages and found they couldn't.

Someone in our society who had never driven a car couldn't ether. Just
watch a learner driver get in a car for the first time.

The most stupid in PNG ended up with a full religion with the
silly buggers praying to skys for more stuff to show up in a plane.

Anyone religious is stupid. The world is still full of them.

I waited till he went to sleep then put equally powerful speakers
against the dividing wall. He moved out after only 1 year.

Can be interesting when you walk out of the
house and the entire crew all take off at once.

And **** all over my car.

I was thinking your head.

Nar, that's never happened.

I once had a seagull **** in some chips I'd just bought.

I did just the once have bird **** on me as it
flew past as a kid, but never any other time.

Lots of birds around currently, we had the wettest
5 months on record thru the winter here.

Been very dry up here. England is considering hosepipe bans. I
ignore
those, they're pointless, 96% of water usage is industrial.

I mostly just notice the sillier calls some of them
have and make snide remarks about bird brains.

What is a "silly" bird call?

I'll record one. Remarkably silly.

[waits]

Didn't hear any yesterday.

[waits more]

Still none, and since its sposed to drizzle a bit today, unlikely to be
any
today either.

Soggy continent :-) I haven't had rain in weeks.

We didn't for months. Only got 7mm. More due on Tuesday tho.

How do you guys get enough drinking water?

I'm in an irrigation area. The water is collected in the Snowy Scheme
which has immense dams and it comes from there thru the existing
rivers and we use it from there.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snowy_Mountains_Scheme

Do you have desalination plants?

Some of the capital citys do. They don't produce
most of the water for those capital citys tho.

His complaint failed, as by law the council had to tell me
they
were going to make a recording, so I put them indoors :-)

That's when he poisoned the cats and they ended up so weird }-(

I didn't have them at that point. Another neighbour has
reported
me
to
the SSPCA for having "15 underfed cats breeding out of control".
They
came round and found 5 cats well looked after. I told them to
fine
them
for wasting the charity's time, but apparently it happens all
the
time
and they don't care?

I've only ever had the one complaint to the council, when the
silly woman who I know so well that they chose to buy the bare
block of land next to me after we were all living in that block
of flats discovered a snake. Not even a poisonous one.

They complained about you because of a snake?!

Yep, I don't bother to mow my lawns and it's a bit of a jungle.

Lot of a jungle, actually.

Not really your fault then.

True.

Did they think it was your pet?

Nope.

Did they not realise they are living wild in Australia?

It was just her, he's not that stupid.

Women are of lower intelligence.

That one certainly is. Rabid god botherer too.

Oh dear. They ought to eradicate all god worshippers. Bring back
Hitler.

Bit hard, the corpse was burnt and we havent worked
out how to clone humans from burnt bones yet.

Or someone similar.

No one has got within a bulls roar of him for centurys.

Even Vlad the Impaler wasn't a patch on him.

Trump and BNP are getting there.

Nope, nothing even remotely like it.

Gotta start somewhere. Soon it will be too late.

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Yeah, that's a massive downside with dogs, particularly
the ones that just bark because they are bored out of
their minds with the owner at work etc.

Mine never did that but would bark at any
visitors even if the one visitor showed up say
10 times in the one day for some reason as
they keep borrowing stuff to do some diy etc.

You seem to lend a lot of tools.

Yeah, I do. Mainly because since I build my house from scratch
on a bare block of land, I have a lot more tools than anyone
else does and don't mind lending them as long as its likely
they
wont get buggered or will be replaced if they do get buggered.

Even now, because of the garage sales where the stuff is so
cheap
that I always get something like a ladder or vice or still or
beer
capper that is better than what I currently have, I have lots
more
of almost everything than almost everyone I know.

I have something like 15 beer brewing barrel and so am the
obvious one to borrow one from if you need to borrow one.

You must be popular with your neighbours.

Yeah, I know them all and lend most of them quite a bit of stuff.
Respond first when their alarm goes off too, although another
of the neighbours is usually there pretty soon after I am.

Why bother?

Because we have all been burgled at one time or another.

I haven't.

You will be.

Most people never are.

Bull****. Bet you can't find a single
person in here that has never been.

48 houses in my street of 50.

What kind of place do you live in?

Just the same as most people where burglarys do happen.

Only happens regularly in cities here.

Bull****.

No, it's true. We aren't all thieves like you lot. Only cities full of
pakis have that problem.

In 17 years in my street of 50 houses (in a small town), there have
been
two burglaries, both non-standard.

That's because you're all povs/chavs with nothing work taking.

It's the chavvy areas where they have more thefts. They steal from each
other.

One was some golf clubs out of the boot of an open car. The other was
a
living room double glazing unit that had just been put in. Never
known
any house contents to go.

Then why does everyone have alarms that
you want to smash when they false trigger ?

They don't, there are only two alarms at this end of the street.

The house one house away has just recently been burnt to the ground
by
a
complete ****ing loony, fortunately when the owners were away on
holiday.

Are Aussies all neanderthals or something?

Nope, this one was quite literally barking mad. She was 'living'
up in the roof of what you lot call a council house because she
believed that her place was inhabited by demons. That's why
she torched the place next but one to my place, she believed
it was too.

Was she jailed?

Nar, off to the loony bin. Quite literally barking mad.

I fail to see the point, they can't cure it.

It stops them burning other houses down because
they believe they are infested with demons too.

So would jail.

Sure, but we don't jail loonys for being loonys.

We don't put them all in loony bins. We have one
'homeless' fella who is notorious in this town, you
see him walking around talking to himself quite a
bit. He gets a loaf of bread from a supermarket that
I usually visit after the garage sale run and one time
he was quite literally barking at the top of his voice
as he walked away with his loaf of bread in his hand.

Don't you have a police force?

Corse we do, but it isnt possible for cops
to avoid everything like that happening.

From what I've heard they seem to concentrate on the easy **** like
speeding motorists.

They didn't with this one and caught her quite quickly.

99.99999% of alarms are false.

It isnt as high as that with most of the neighbours.

It is here.

I don't believe that.

I must hear one every couple of weeks. Yet only two burglaries in 17
years.

So it isnt just your cats that are barking
mad, its all your neighbours too.

No, it's the alarms that are ****.

Annoying alarms with no burglar in sight.

Sure, most of ours are too, but nothing like that high a percentage.

People have motion/vibration sensors, probably picking up a cat
through
the window or a bird hitting the window.

Our are mostly PIRs in the house.

Which will see movement of a cat.

Not with the best of the dual mode ones that
can work out the sized of what they see move.

Pity everyone doesn't use those.

Yeah, they certainly cost more.

Something is causing false alarms and waking me up. And you.

Hardly ever wakes me up, just that one night when it kept going
off right thru the night. Easily fixed, didn't happen again.

The house one house away going up in flames certainly woke me up.
Not quite sure what actually woke me up, but I looked out the kitchen
window and noticef a ****ing great column of flames lighting up the sky.

Think there may well have been quite a bang when she lit it
after pouring lots of accelerant around inside the house.

If I call the police they don't care.

I go and check myself to see if it's a false alarm or not.

I don't, unless it's 3am, then I go and find out who I'm to yell at
when
they return home.

I usually don't bother to ring the neighbour when their
system false alarms, he can see it on the alarm system
when he gets home and can see that I checked that it was
a false alarm from the camera footage that he checks now.

First question they ask is "can you see a burglar". If not, they
don't
bother coming out.

And that is the sensible way to operate.

Most burglars would hide out of sight if they saw someone looking.

Not even possible with my neighbour's place.

Must be a small place if they can't hide.

Nope, just nowhere to hide with the way I check everything.
Massive great pool and the immense shed take up most of
the backyard. There the fence down the side of the house is
about 6' from the side of the house and is one obvious place
to hide, but I always go down there because it's the obvious
place to try to jemmy a window where no one can see you.

The windows on the other side open onto the massive great
carport that is in front of the massive great brick garage and
anyone trying to jemmy one of those windows can be seen
from the street doing that.

It's up to us to take the alarm off the wall with a brick.

Ours time out. It's a legal requirement.

Legal requirement here, but there's a loophole. After 15 minutes it
must
shut off, but it's allowed to start again something like 5 minutes
later!

Yeah, ours do too, but they don't usually false alarm again
immediately.

The ones here seem to run again and again until someone shuts them off.

Stupid design. None of ours do that.

They should sound for 15 minutes, then stop forever until they're reset.

Ours don't have to stop forever, they are welcome
to go off again if there is another alarm trigger.

Or the same one intermittently.

That only happened the once with the one next door.

There is another one quite a few houses away, next door to a mate of mine
which does go off quite a lot, every few weeks, but its far away enough to
ignore. No one lives there apparently so it times out every time.

I have had the neighbours one do that the one time, forget what the
problem was, think one of the PIRs inside the house failed or
something.

Alarms are a ****ing nuisance.

But do get the neighbours here checking when
they go off because we all know each other very
well indeed some of us for over 50 years now.

And here we realise that the electronics are too sensitive and have
probably detected a cat touching a pane of glass.

It was like that for a while, but retweeking the system fixed that.

Clearly installers or DIYers here are too stupid to do that.

He wasn't. Not that cheap to get it retweeked tho.

They aren't exactly complicated devices,

They are for that sort of false triggering in unusual situations.

Elaborate.

An alarm that is smart enough to work out that it's a balloon
that has been sitting up on the ceiling that has eventually run
out of helium and has drifted to the floor isnt a common enough
situation for any alarm designer to allow for and not trigger on.

could do it themselves ffs.

He's very capable with machinery and pumped irrigation, he's
the mega farmer, but doesn't know much about electronics.

Anyway, even if each alarm that's installed gives only one false alarm
before being tweaked, that is WAY too much noise pollution. It's an
extremely irritating sound.

I'm not that obsessive. I'd rather they didn't ever false alarm,
but given that we have all been burgled at one time, I don't
mind having to put the phone in my pocket, wander around
their place checking if it's a false alarm and yawning when it is.

Didn't even mind it going off all thru the night the one time.

ALL NIGHT?! That would drive me insane enough to beat the **** out of
the
fool that owned the alarm.

Yes, you are that loony.

I'd be so ****ed off I wouldn't care if I was done for assault.

Yes, you are that loony.

A sleepless night is completely unforgivable.

It wasn't a sleepless night, I slept fine, just noticed
a few times that it was still going off thru the night.

No system is ever perfect.

Which is why they shouldn't have them at all.

Even sillier than you usually manage.

Most people here do not have alarms. They aren't burgled.

Because there is nothing worth stealing with you povs/chavs.

Perhaps your country should lock up more crims?

Much too expensive.

The last time the grandkids had been there for a birthday party.
Everyone
had left and after a few days the helium had leaked out of a balloon
up
on the ceiling and it drifted down to the floor and set the alarm
off.

Which only goes to show alarms are not intelligent enough for their
task.

Sure. But it isnt economically practical to have a system
that allows for stuff like that with residential houses.

You don't see the banks systems false triggering with stuff like that.

Banks have a lot to lose. The extremely minor chance of losing a TV is
not enough to have an alarm.

You don't just lose the TV. And you don't lose the TV much anymore,
they're not exactly portable anymore and the stupid druggys that are
doing the burglarys don't have any way of moving stuff that big around.

There is nothing easy to carry that's worth much nowadays.

That's bull**** with tablets, phones, laptops, jewellery etc etc.

One of the neighbours lost a wedding dress.

My drunk of a neighbour who used to **** stupid teenagers
had one of them take a brand new gas heater, dump it over
at my place behind my screen wall, presumably planning to
get a mate to show up in a car and take it home later. It was
big enough so it was a bit big to carry far.

On one other occasion you could see where someone had tried
to jemmy a window and had got scared off by the alarm and had
put a chair against the back fence and gone over it on the way out.

I doubt a burglar would run away from an alarm here as nobody looks.

Bet they would keep an eye out for someone looking.

If the burglar is in the living room with the curtains shut, nobody can
see them.

I can see how they got into the house.

Not if they pry the door open then close it afterwards.

The pry marks stand out like dogs balls.

On another occasion the crim was visible on the surveillance
cameras that were installed after the previous incident.

Cameras are a much better idea than alarms. They don't wake everyone
up.

But don't warn the burglar off

They do if they're visible.

Nope, his are visible and gets the at least one fool trying it anyway.

Electric fences then.

Doesn't work with humans.

You should also have hidden ones viewing the visible ones, so they can
get
done for breaking them.

Only if they can be identified from the footage.
That's hardly ever true.

and are mostly pretty useless for putting the druggy burglar in jail.

A picture of him in the act of stealing is enough evidence.

Only if you can work out who it was.

Even with retail shops, the burglars usually have enough of
a clue to cover their faces with a balaclava etc so the footage
doesn't see one of the local cops say "that's that bugger fred
again" and frog march him off to the magistrate.

Burglary must be a big business over there.

Nope.

Well you got a lot more than I do.

Yep, lots more worth stealing.

Mate of mine saw the cat staring out the window at something.

Turned out some arseholes were pushing the car down the driveway
onto the street and were planning to push start it there.

Here it's just a few idiots that aren't bright enough to cover their
faces.

Yep, yours are all morons. Our arent.

Clever criminals. I guess that comes from the breeding.

Nope, they didn't even manage to invent clothes and houses in
a place as cold and soggy as Tasmania. Almost as bad as Scotland.

They did manage to work out what the later immigrants brought with them tho.

And even if that's possible, he'll have flogged the stuff
to his drug dealer before the cops can find him anyway.

Legalise drugs, remove the problem.

Have fun listing even a single modern first or
second world country that has gone that route.

Just because it hasn't been tried doesn't mean it wouldn't work.

It was tried, even by you lot. None of it was illegal at one time.

Black market drugs cause crime. Legalised rugs (like alcohol) don't.

That last is a pig ignorant lie. Plenty of the crime is drunks breaking
into grog shops to get more grog. Cigarettes in spades.

Much better to have the alarm go off, someone like me
show up and scare him off before he gets into the house.

And a ****ing loud bark too. One time I was over at
the shops around the corner which must be atleast
500m or more away and it was perfectly obviously
that a visitor had showed up at my place.

Remote burglar alarm.

Yeah, didn't work with work tho, much too far away to hear.

And no one was ever game to try stealing anything
with that ****ing great alsatian inside the house
going bananas at anyone stupid enough to try it.

Why are people scared of dogs?

Why are people scared of mice, spiders, snakes etc ?

Spiders are disgusting,

Only if you are neurotic about spiders.

More legs than body, simply wrong.

No reason to be scared of them.

I'm more disgusted than scared.

No reason to be disgusted either.

More leg than body, that's simply wrong.

No reason to be disgusted about that.

Disgustion (that really should be a word) is not something you can
control.

Yes, you are that ****ed between the ears.

Same with arachnophobia and being terrified of mice.

Our ****ing great huntsmans that can be as big as your hand
are quite interesting. I had one as pet when I was a kid.

YUCK!

You're actually terrified of them, like stupid women and mice.

The world would be better off without them.

Nope, they kills a lot of stuff like mosquitoes and flys.

I just squash the redbacks. Let the daddy long legs do their thing.

I do fly spray the bugger that insists on living in my car wing
mirrors, but that's because its web is a nuisance there.

I hoover up spiders and other insects, then seal the end of the pipe.
By
the time the bag is emptied, they're all dead.

I don't bother to hoover at all, complete waste of time.

You never hoover your house?!

Never. Broom is much quicker.

Ever had one enter your mouth while you're sleeping?

I don't sleep with my mouth open.

How do you know?

I don't get a dry mouth.

Saliva.

Not if you're sleeping with your mouth open.

How would that stop saliva?

It drys out.

I don't snore either.

Neither do I, I was told I don't. But observing if someone sleeps with
their mouth open would be unusual.

Not with viable parents it isnt.

Your parents watch you sleeping?

Viable parents do check their kids occasionally,
mostly to see that they havent thrown off all
the bedclothes etc.

I'd rather they didn't exist on the planet.

They likely feel the same way about you.

That's their problem. I can stand on them and kill them. I am
superior.

Cant stand on daddy long legs, they are up at ceiling level.

That's what the hoover is for. We have tool use.

Stupid waste of my time. I've got much better things to
do that hoover up spiders because I am terrified of them.

I like a clean house.

More fool you.

They don't pay rent,

Neither do your cats and birds.

they don't live here,

They do actually.

simple.

Fraid not.

a lot of snakes are poisonous.

Hardly any of them are.

Prove it.

Look at the stats.

Actually ALL snakes are venemous.

Pigs arse they are. Pythons kill by
wrapping themselves around the prey.

They're still venemous.

Nope.

Yes, just not deadly venom.

Nope, no venom at all.

It's the way we evolved presumably.

Same reason most cats are scared of cucumbers etc.

I tried that with mine, all 5 did nothing.

Sure, but yours are clearly damned weird. Not one of the cats
in those videos of Dave's do anything like yours do with cat flaps.

And mine aren't stupid enough to react to a dead vegetable.

But clearly some are.

I tried 6 cats!

Sure but they are so inbred that they are barking mad.

Jumping at a cucumber is mad.

Sure, its likely some evolutionary quirk.

Mine don't do that, so they're more sensible.

Too stupid to even notice the cucumber more likely.

They see it and ignore it, like any other object placed next to them.

Even a plate of cat food ?

Those youtube videos arent faked.

Probably American cats, they're probably as stupid as the people.

Neither are dave's cat flap videos.

Pretty easy to kill/stun/scare off a dog using a heavy
implement.

You wont do that with the big dogs.

A rock slammed into their face would stop them.

Nope, you'd get savaged picking up the rock.

I'd like to see them try.

Plenty of crims not only see them try, they feel them do it.

Then their reactions are slower than mine.

Nope, you don't have a ****ing clue how those dogs operate.

Never had a problem with people's big dogs here, including ones I've
been
told will remove my hand.

You've never come across the ones trained to go after crims.

We don't have enough crims to need them.

Corse you do and you do have them.

On several occasions I've been caught petting a huge dog and the owner
comes running out worried I'm going to get injured.

Sure, most dog owners don't have a ****ing clue about dogs.

Agreed.

Or burrrrglarrr alarrrrrum as they say in Glasgow.

And he had the cheek to report me for noisy parrots.

Yeah, they can be quite noisy. I have a long run of very
big gum trees etc down the 100' long side of the house
and we get big swarms of galahs, 50-100 birds in the
flock, show up and all camp overnight in my trees,
jabbering away to each other about the state of my jungle.

I blocked off my bedroom window with sound insulation so I
can't
hear
the
neighbours when I'm in bed.

I only have massive great 8'x8' patio doors instead of
windows in the bedrooms and the heavy armoured
glass is surprisingly effective against most noise.

Armoured glass?

Toughened glass so even if you try walking thru it by accident,

Most people aren't that stupid.

Yes, but the law requires that with patio doors because some
are and the results can be very dramatic when they do that.

Why does the law protect the stupid?

Because they can be kids who don't know any better etc.

Being a kid is no excuse for being as stupid as a housefly.

All kids have to learn stuff.

They should learn what glass is long before they're walking about on
their
own.

Not that it isnt hard to try walking thru a massive great patio door.

Eh?

The door is so large that it isnt always obvious if its open or not.

My parrots don't fly into the window....

I regularly get birds trying to fly thru mine, mainly because the
main room has 5 massive great 8'x8' patio doors, 2 on one side
and 3 on the other.

Try these: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/122383941716

Some like the peewees would attack them.

They do with the magpies.

All that does is make the next generation even more useless than the
current one.

We do in fact do a lot better than cave men did.
They couldn't drive cars and fly planes etc.

They probably could if they existed.

Nope, we know they can't because people showed up in
them with the few remaining savages and found they couldn't.

Someone in our society who had never driven a car couldn't ether. Just
watch a learner driver get in a car for the first time.

The most stupid in PNG ended up with a full religion with the
silly buggers praying to skys for more stuff to show up in a plane.

Anyone religious is stupid. The world is still full of them.

I waited till he went to sleep then put equally powerful
speakers
against the dividing wall. He moved out after only 1 year.

Can be interesting when you walk out of the
house and the entire crew all take off at once.

And **** all over my car.

I was thinking your head.

Nar, that's never happened.

I once had a seagull **** in some chips I'd just bought.

I did just the once have bird **** on me as it
flew past as a kid, but never any other time.

Lots of birds around currently, we had the wettest
5 months on record thru the winter here.

Been very dry up here. England is considering hosepipe bans. I
ignore
those, they're pointless, 96% of water usage is industrial.

I mostly just notice the sillier calls some of them
have and make snide remarks about bird brains.

What is a "silly" bird call?

I'll record one. Remarkably silly.

[waits]

Didn't hear any yesterday.

[waits more]

Still none, and since its sposed to drizzle a bit today, unlikely to
be
any
today either.

Soggy continent :-) I haven't had rain in weeks.

We didn't for months. Only got 7mm. More due on Tuesday tho.

How do you guys get enough drinking water?

I'm in an irrigation area. The water is collected in the Snowy Scheme
which has immense dams and it comes from there thru the existing
rivers and we use it from there.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snowy_Mountains_Scheme

Do you have desalination plants?

Some of the capital citys do. They don't produce
most of the water for those capital citys tho.

His complaint failed, as by law the council had to tell me
they
were going to make a recording, so I put them indoors :-)

That's when he poisoned the cats and they ended up so
weird }-(

I didn't have them at that point. Another neighbour has
reported
me
to
the SSPCA for having "15 underfed cats breeding out of
control".
They
came round and found 5 cats well looked after. I told them to
fine
them
for wasting the charity's time, but apparently it happens all
the
time
and they don't care?

I've only ever had the one complaint to the council, when the
silly woman who I know so well that they chose to buy the bare
block of land next to me after we were all living in that block
of flats discovered a snake. Not even a poisonous one.

They complained about you because of a snake?!

Yep, I don't bother to mow my lawns and it's a bit of a jungle.

Lot of a jungle, actually.

Not really your fault then.

True.

Did they think it was your pet?

Nope.

Did they not realise they are living wild in Australia?

It was just her, he's not that stupid.

Women are of lower intelligence.

That one certainly is. Rabid god botherer too.

Oh dear. They ought to eradicate all god worshippers. Bring back
Hitler.

Bit hard, the corpse was burnt and we havent worked
out how to clone humans from burnt bones yet.

Or someone similar.

No one has got within a bulls roar of him for centurys.

Even Vlad the Impaler wasn't a patch on him.

Trump and BNP are getting there.

Nope, nothing even remotely like it.

Gotta start somewhere.

He'll never get within a bulls roar of what Adolf managed.

Soon it will be too late.

Nope. They'll never amount to a hill of beans, you watch.

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the smell attracting predators (the kittens haven't
learned to bury it yet).

Mine used the tray from the day it was put down. Only one little
accident. Mornings are funny, I empty and clean the tray and put
it
down
with fresh litter and they all charge for it. Synchronised pooing
ensues.

Perhaps a little too much info, but at least Pounder will be happy
as
a
pig
in **** that they don't use his award winning garden.

Award winning my arse.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/d89cxd9nln...cycle.jpg?dl=0

Fark, where are the plastic butterflys ?

He does go on about those. I think he's mentally insane.

Better than bodily insane or spiritually insane I spose.

Must be ****ing mad to have white gravel around the grass, must
be a complete ****ing waste of time when mowing the grass.

He has some odd obsessions, including gates. Gates with no locks so
people can get in anyway, so utterly useless.

Not completely useless, they work fine for keeping dogs in the yard.

You mean they're not bright enough to stay?

Its got nothing to do with bright enough. Dogs love to
wander around and see what other dogs have been around.

When I was building the house, one of the neighbours dogs
used to have a very regular run, trotting around the same
route by itself every day, regular as clockwork. Hilarious.

When I was walking a km or two to pick the car up after
it was in for a wheel alignment, there was an alsatian
doing the same thing down the km or more long street,
stopping at every tree or gate post to see who had just
****ed on it and ****ed on it himself. Very determined
and single minded.

That's the way dogs operate.

Plenty of cats do too. That one of Adams that he had to
kill had a routine that as soon as Adam had left for work
would head over to one of the neighbours places for a
second breakfast, regular as clockwork. The young girl
who lived there thought it was hilarious.

There you go then, your neighbours don't seem to have a problem with free
roaming dogs.

Some of them do actually. One just had their cat killed by a roaming Husky.

Another is so ****ing stupid she carrys a whip with her whenever she goes
out walking and doesnt dare to move more than a couple of blocks.

Sounds like it's the neighbours that are the problem, not the dogs.

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You would be all right.

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That's a different situation, everything the camera
can see is all moving in the same way all the time.

So the camera could just ignore the centre.

Nope, because if it makes the background stable the center
would move around just as much as the background currently
does

It should make them both move around half what they currently do.

Not possible for the reason I spelt out later and you have now deleted.

I never delete the last five levels,

You did that time.

No, I never do.

try to make your point quicker.

I did, you deleted it.

It's very easy to move the whole image electronically so the background
moves half of what it currently is, and that movement is passed onto the
person's head.

Yes, but like I said in the bit you deleted, not possible
to fill in the background in the area the persons head
has moved away from because it isnt even available
in the image because it was obscured by the head.

No, I mean to move the WHOLE image to semi-compensate for the moving background. You now have half the movement in the head and half in the background, which might not look so weird.

The way the movies do it is to film the background
with a different camera and film the stuff that is
going on in the foreground in front of a colored
screen and then superimpose the two lots of footage
in post processing. Not even possible to do in real
time with head mounted cameras that can never
see what is obscured by what is in the foreground.

Why is all that even necessary if you don't have the camera attached to the guy's head? You have the camera steady in the first place.

and would be even worse to watch because what you want to watch is
whats in the center.

No you don't. For example in the video we just watched, it's the animal
we're interested in.

Yes, but when that moves around more
than it currently does, that's worse.

Its never going to be feasible to eliminate the problem
with optical stablisation, it has to be physical.

That wouldn't be any different to what you objected to above.

Yes it is, because there would be no background movement with
that approach. You only get background movement when the
camera moves.

With a perfect physical stabiliser, the background would be stationary,

Yes.

and the person would move around.

Not when it tracks the person and lion.

Not possible if the person is moving relative to the lion.

Corse it is, you track so both are still in the field of view.

One has to wobble.

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the smell attracting predators (the kittens haven't
learned to bury it yet).

Mine used the tray from the day it was put down. Only one
little
accident. Mornings are funny, I empty and clean the tray and put
it
down
with fresh litter and they all charge for it. Synchronised
pooing
ensues.

Perhaps a little too much info, but at least Pounder will be
happy
as
a
pig
in **** that they don't use his award winning garden.

Award winning my arse.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/d89cxd9nln...cycle.jpg?dl=0

Fark, where are the plastic butterflys ?

He does go on about those. I think he's mentally insane.

Better than bodily insane or spiritually insane I spose.

Must be ****ing mad to have white gravel around the grass, must
be a complete ****ing waste of time when mowing the grass.

He has some odd obsessions, including gates. Gates with no locks so
people can get in anyway, so utterly useless.

Not completely useless, they work fine for keeping dogs in the yard.

You mean they're not bright enough to stay?

Its got nothing to do with bright enough. Dogs love to
wander around and see what other dogs have been around.

When I was building the house, one of the neighbours dogs
used to have a very regular run, trotting around the same
route by itself every day, regular as clockwork. Hilarious.

When I was walking a km or two to pick the car up after
it was in for a wheel alignment, there was an alsatian
doing the same thing down the km or more long street,
stopping at every tree or gate post to see who had just
****ed on it and ****ed on it himself. Very determined
and single minded.

That's the way dogs operate.

Plenty of cats do too. That one of Adams that he had to
kill had a routine that as soon as Adam had left for work
would head over to one of the neighbours places for a
second breakfast, regular as clockwork. The young girl
who lived there thought it was hilarious.

There you go then, your neighbours don't seem to have a problem with
free
roaming dogs.

Some of them do actually. One just had their cat killed by a roaming
Husky.

Another is so ****ing stupid she carrys a whip with her whenever she goes
out walking and doesnt dare to move more than a couple of blocks.

Sounds like it's the neighbours that are the problem, not the dogs.

Not too many kill cats by biting them.

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That's a different situation, everything the camera
can see is all moving in the same way all the time.

So the camera could just ignore the centre.

Nope, because if it makes the background stable the center
would move around just as much as the background currently
does

It should make them both move around half what they currently do.

Not possible for the reason I spelt out later and you have now deleted.

I never delete the last five levels,

You did that time.

No, I never do.

You did that time.

try to make your point quicker.

I did, you deleted it.

It's very easy to move the whole image electronically so the background
moves half of what it currently is, and that movement is passed onto the
person's head.

Yes, but like I said in the bit you deleted, not possible
to fill in the background in the area the persons head
has moved away from because it isnt even available
in the image because it was obscured by the head.

No, I mean to move the WHOLE image to semi-compensate for the moving
background.

Useless way to do things. Then you cant see what you're sposed to see.

You now have half the movement in the head and half in the background,
which might not look so weird.

But what you are looking at isnt centered
anymore so would look even weirder.

The way the movies do it is to film the background
with a different camera and film the stuff that is
going on in the foreground in front of a colored
screen and then superimpose the two lots of footage
in post processing. Not even possible to do in real
time with head mounted cameras that can never
see what is obscured by what is in the foreground.

Why is all that even necessary if you don't have the camera attached to
the guy's head?

It has to be attached to the person with very active stuff like that.

You have the camera steady in the first place.

Useless when what you want to see moves around a lot.

and would be even worse to watch because what you want to watch is
whats in the center.

No you don't. For example in the video we just watched, it's the
animal
we're interested in.

Yes, but when that moves around more
than it currently does, that's worse.

Its never going to be feasible to eliminate the problem
with optical stablisation, it has to be physical.

That wouldn't be any different to what you objected to above.

Yes it is, because there would be no background movement with
that approach. You only get background movement when the
camera moves.

With a perfect physical stabiliser, the background would be
stationary,

Yes.

and the person would move around.

Not when it tracks the person and lion.

Not possible if the person is moving relative to the lion.

Corse it is, you track so both are still in the field of view.

One has to wobble.

Nope, not with massive great shoulder mounted gyro stabilised camera.

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No one has got within a bulls roar of him for centurys.

Even Vlad the Impaler wasn't a patch on him.

Trump and BNP are getting there.

Hmm, Trump is a God lover.

So was Hitler,

Like hell he was.

Catholic apparently.

Nope, he never bothered to go to church as an adult.

Didn't bother with a priest when he killed himself either.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religi...f_Adolf_Hitler
agrees with you.

Yeah, its pretty accurate.

I blame Bod for giving me false information.

Yeah, have him summarily executed forthwith.

Bullet in the back of the neck is the way to go.

I did used to think he was an atheist.

Nar, just another stupid god botherer.

Make up your mind. Was Hitler religious or not?

but he still managed to get rid of a load of competing god lovers..

And then they got rid of him.

He got more of them then they got of him.

Not with the yanks, they killed a lot
more krauts than the krauts killed yanks.

But how many religious nuts were killed vs. atheists?

Hard to say because it's a tad hard to define a religious nut.

Someone who believes in god.

Heaps more god botherers than atheist tho, just because
there will always be heaps more than need a crutch for
their pathetic excuses for 'minds' than don't.

So no great loss then.

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No one has got within a bulls roar of him for centurys.

Even Vlad the Impaler wasn't a patch on him.

Trump and BNP are getting there.

Hmm, Trump is a God lover.

So was Hitler,

Like hell he was.

Catholic apparently.

Nope, he never bothered to go to church as an adult.

Didn't bother with a priest when he killed himself either.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religi...f_Adolf_Hitler
agrees with you.

Yeah, its pretty accurate.

I blame Bod for giving me false information.

Yeah, have him summarily executed forthwith.

Bullet in the back of the neck is the way to go.

I did used to think he was an atheist.

Nar, just another stupid god botherer.

Make up your mind. Was Hitler religious or not?

I thought you were talking about Bod there.

but he still managed to get rid of a load of competing god lovers.

And then they got rid of him.

He got more of them then they got of him.

Not with the yanks, they killed a lot
more krauts than the krauts killed yanks.

But how many religious nuts were killed vs. atheists?

Hard to say because it's a tad hard to define a religious nut.

Someone who believes in god.

Hard to claim that 95% of people are religious nuts.

Heaps more god botherers than atheist tho, just because
there will always be heaps more than need a crutch for
their pathetic excuses for 'minds' than don't.

So no great loss then.

Dunno, we need someone to dig the ditches,
clean the dunnys, wipe little kids arses etc etc etc.

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Or for pursuing criminals who are running away from
the cops either. Corse a ****ing great alsatian is
likely
to be a seen as a tad more threatening by the average
running crim too.

I'm pretty certain a similarly sized lion/tiger would
be
considered
more
threatening.


;-)

That could work as long as the handler wore armour, had
the
beast
on
a
(long / strong) lead and the laws on keeping dangerous
animals
was
changed to allow the Police animals to actually kill
crims
(as
I'm
not
sure the recall command would work as well on a lion as
it
would
on
a
dog). ;-)

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/10...rning-hug.html

My ****ing great alsatian left that for dead.

He'd jump up and nip you on the cheek as a greeting.

Trouble is that he'd do that with visitors who showed up
enough
too
and
it was very difficult to predict when he was going to
decide
that
they
were welcome visitors and do it for the first time with a
particular
visitor. With a huge great dog like that, it could give
them
a
bit
of
a
fright.

If he never harms anyone, what's the problem?

No problem, its just better if the more timid
of the visitors don't get an unpleasant surprise.

Nah, it teaches them not to be afraid of dogs.

It doesn't teach them anything, those who are afraid of dogs
are even more afraid of dogs after that, because they decide
that they are even less predictable than they thought.

That's their problem.

It is indeed, but I'd prefer to not have them **** their pants
at
my
place.

Humans are bigger and more intelligent than dogs. Being
afraid
of
them
is
pathetic.

You'd be afraid of him when he's well away.

One party trick was to look out the kitchen window and
say to the dog 'some burglar is stealing your BONES'

He'd go absolutely ****ing bananas.

I tried to get someone to go out in the backyard in that
situation,
I recon I would have stopped if I had told him to, but no one
was
ever game to try it, even those who knew a lot about dogs.

Huge great dog, massive across the chest and quite
spectacular when going absolutely ****ing bananas.

I used to have one Italian neighbour who used to borrow
garden
tools.
As
with most dogs, mine went ****ing bananas when he showed up,
because
he
was obviously terrified of dogs. Wasn't long before he wasn't
even
game
to knock on the door and ask to borrow anything.

Oh dear. I have no problem with any dog. Very few attack me.

I've only been bitten twice, once when I was still a young
kid wandering around the lion cages when the circus was
in town. I didn't even notice that there was a dog chained
up under one of the cages until it bit me on the leg.

Those that do get my foot in their face.

That would be a great way to end up ****ed over very
comprehensively
indeed if you were ever actually stupid enough to try it with
mine.

There's a reason the cops use them and not one crim ever
gets away with doing something like that with those.

We can use tools, they can't.

Have fun finding a tool other than a gun that works I that
situation.

And it would need to be a shortened shotty too.

Brick, stone from a rockery....

Wouldn't work, you'd get savaged trying to find the brick or rock.

I can find it with a quick glance. Most gardens have rocks.

The problem isnt finding the rock, its not getting savaged picking it
up.

I can kick.

A well trained dog will grab it and rip it off.

Never met one.

Yes, its usually only stupid criminals that get to meet those.

Is there a substance a dog would love to eat that will give it
catastrophic diarrhoea?

Nope, dogs can eat anything, even rotting
carcases and never get catastrophic diarrhoea.

Be a good way to get back at folk who have dogs that try to remove your
fingers when you post something though their letterbox.

You could try those chain mail gloves used by incompetent
butchers to avoid cutting their own fingers off but the worst
of the dogs have one hell of a bite and you would likely just
end up with your fingers crushed inside the glove.

And its unlikely that anyone you who you made their dog
have catastrophic diarrhoea would choose to buy anything
from you when you return anyway, even if that was possible.

They're more likely to rub your nose in it.

Only if they knew it was me.

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On 18/04/2017 11:00, T i m wrote:
On Tue, 18 Apr 2017 02:45:29 -0700 (PDT),

wrote:

On Tuesday, 18 April 2017 03:14:53 UTC+1, Rod Speed
wrote:

Or for pursuing criminals who are running away from
the cops either. Corse a ****ing great alsatian is
likely
to be a seen as a tad more threatening by the
average
running crim too.

I'm pretty certain a similarly sized lion/tiger
would
be
considered
more
threatening.


;-)

That could work as long as the handler wore armour,
had
the
beast
on
a
(long / strong) lead and the laws on keeping
dangerous
animals
was
changed to allow the Police animals to actually kill
crims
(as
I'm
not
sure the recall command would work as well on a lion
as
it
would
on
a
dog). ;-)

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/10...rning-hug.html

My ****ing great alsatian left that for dead.

He'd jump up and nip you on the cheek as a greeting.

Trouble is that he'd do that with visitors who showed
up
enough
too
and
it was very difficult to predict when he was going to
decide
that
they
were welcome visitors and do it for the first time with
a
particular
visitor. With a huge great dog like that, it could give
them
a
bit
of
a
fright.

If he never harms anyone, what's the problem?

No problem, its just better if the more timid
of the visitors don't get an unpleasant surprise.

Nah, it teaches them not to be afraid of dogs.

It doesn't teach them anything, those who are afraid of
dogs
are even more afraid of dogs after that, because they
decide
that they are even less predictable than they thought.

That's their problem.

It is indeed, but I'd prefer to not have them **** their
pants
at
my
place.

Humans are bigger and more intelligent than dogs. Being
afraid
of
them
is
pathetic.

You'd be afraid of him when he's well away.

One party trick was to look out the kitchen window and
say to the dog 'some burglar is stealing your BONES'

He'd go absolutely ****ing bananas.

I tried to get someone to go out in the backyard in that
situation,
I recon I would have stopped if I had told him to, but no one
was
ever game to try it, even those who knew a lot about dogs.

Huge great dog, massive across the chest and quite
spectacular when going absolutely ****ing bananas.

I used to have one Italian neighbour who used to borrow
garden
tools.
As
with most dogs, mine went ****ing bananas when he showed
up,
because
he
was obviously terrified of dogs. Wasn't long before he
wasn't
even
game
to knock on the door and ask to borrow anything.

Oh dear. I have no problem with any dog. Very few attack
me.

I've only been bitten twice, once when I was still a young
kid wandering around the lion cages when the circus was
in town. I didn't even notice that there was a dog chained
up under one of the cages until it bit me on the leg.

Those that do get my foot in their face.

That would be a great way to end up ****ed over very
comprehensively
indeed if you were ever actually stupid enough to try it with
mine.

There's a reason the cops use them and not one crim ever
gets away with doing something like that with those.

We can use tools, they can't.

Have fun finding a tool other than a gun that works I that
situation.

And it would need to be a shortened shotty too.

Brick, stone from a rockery....

Wouldn't work, you'd get savaged trying to find the brick or
rock.

I can find it with a quick glance. Most gardens have rocks.

The problem isnt finding the rock, its not getting savaged picking
it
up.

I can kick.

A well trained dog will grab it and rip it off.

Never met one.

Yes, its usually only stupid criminals that get to meet those.

Is there a substance a dog would love to eat that will give it
catastrophic diarrhoea?

Nope, dogs can eat anything, even rotting
carcases and never get catastrophic diarrhoea.

Be a good way to get back at folk who have dogs that try to remove your
fingers when you post something though their letterbox.

You could try those chain mail gloves used by incompetent
butchers to avoid cutting their own fingers off but the worst
of the dogs have one hell of a bite and you would likely just
end up with your fingers crushed inside the glove.

And its unlikely that anyone you who you made their dog
have catastrophic diarrhoea would choose to buy anything
from you when you return anyway, even if that was possible.

They're more likely to rub your nose in it.

Only if they knew it was me.

Not hard to work out that it was likely someone who puts
stuff in the letterbox. Sure, they might assume it's the posty,
but with a small place where most know everyone, they might
well know that the posty wouldn't do something like that.

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through?

Nope.

Then why are the commercial ones made so?

Just the usual fashion/fad stuff or their customers by more
of those because they don't understand how cats operate.

Watch those videos of Dave's, those cats don't look thru the
door before trying to use it. They know from the smell and
the appearance it's a cat flap. They arent stupid.

If you have several cats, a transparent one would prevent them from both
going through at once.

I'm not convinced. Why can't the cats see the flap moving
and realise that another cat is coming thru the other way ?

Same reason as it happens with people. It doesn't move until you push it. If person/cat A pushes the flap/door while person/cat B is too close to the other side, they get a busted nose.

Otherwise this could happen: https://youtu.be/1U1jSGib-NA?t=1m49s

Unlikely with cats.

They can see through doors?

The commercial ones are all made of transparent plastic.

Sheet of 1/8" perspex would survive 2 cats trying to get thru at once
too.

Commercial ones are not that tough.

Yep, lousy design.

I can only find two models. One lasts about 2 weeks, the other lasts
about a year.

Mine would last as long as the house does.

I can't be bothered building one.

The standard size happens to fit nicely where one pane of glass was
in
the
door.

There is no pane of glass in Daves door.

And the panes of glass in my patio doors are 4'x7'6"

That would be an enormous catflap. No wonder you get burglars.

But it's a lot easier to train a cat or kitten to use a litter
tray
than a dog.

Interesting Mike's latest that his are already so
instinctive that they swarm to the tray when
he puts clean litter in it and have a **** fest.

You'd never get puppys doing that.

Or my cats. If the litter tray is not there or full, they **** in the
shower. They do seem to know that ****ting on the carpet will make me
very angry.

Presumably because they are a lot more fussy than dogs.

What revolts me is my cat eats her kittens ****.

Plenty of dogs eat their own ****.

That makes them even stupider.

Its got nothing to do with intelligence, they evolved
like that. Just like cats did with kitten ****.

Eating a waste product is not a good idea.

Works fine for cats and dogs.

Does it?

Corse it does. If it had health downsides for
them, they would have evolved differently.

Maybe they are unhealthy.

Nope, they clearly survive doing that fine.

I doubt they enjoy it.

They do only live for 15-20 years.

That's due to something else entirely.

If you know what it is, name it.

We live longer and are more intelligent.

For different reasons entirely.

Which are?

In the case of the live longer, its due
to the different way we have evolved.

In spades with intelligence.

Some trees live for millennia, doesn't say
anything useful about anything much.

You're being to vague. You are unsure.

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