"Mr Pounder Esquire" wrote in message
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Rod Speed wrote:
"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
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In article ,
Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Tue, 23 Feb 2016 13:46:26 +0000, Syd Rumpo wrote:

I call bull****.

Cheers

Not sure, but running extension leads into bathrooms is asking for
trouble.

I'm surprised there wasn't a socket in the bathroom. Plenty of
countries allow this.

In fact its only really Britain of the majors that doesn't, stupidly
IMO.

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!ms...g/arbvFRAzMq0J
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-settlers.html

You are and always will be a very stupid Australian ******.

+1
Funny though.

Dave Plowman (News) wrote
Tim Streater wrote

iPhones aren't a technical choice IMHO. They are a fashion statement.

That applies to any so-called "smart" phone. All completely unnecessary.

I'd agree.

More fool you.

In the main. I do find having a decent camera in a phone very useful,
though.

Many of us find the other stuff like a decent mapping
system very handy at times, same with being able to
check when a place will open or close when out and
about and you discover that you can visit some place
you hadn't planned to visit or thought you would
visit before you left home or work etc. And it can
be handy when you show up at a place you have
been to before, find its not there anymore, and
need to work out where it's gone to now, or
whether its closed forever or moved.

And sadly, the better camera phones
only come in the smart phones.

On Tuesday, 23 February 2016 13:16:29 UTC, GB wrote:
A teenager who was using her mobile phone while taking a bath has died
after it fell in the water and electrocuted her.

The unnamed 14-year-old had plugged her phone into a charger that was
connected to an extension lead at the time.

Her devastated mother found the body of her daughter in the bath in
their home in Moscow, Russia, after realising that she had been in
locked bathroom for a long time.

The mother then forced her way inside after getting no response from her
daughter before finding her lifeless body inside.

The victim had reportedly been so badly electrocuted that her body had
started to burn.

Her mother said that the teenager had the charger in her hands and the
mobile phone was on the floor, and she had used an extension lead
because there were no plugs in the bathroom.

Prosecutor Yulia Ivanova told local media: "Currently we are still
investigating and will make a decision on what action to take, if any,
once the investigation is completed."

Must have a pretty suspect electrical system in Russia for that to happen.

On Wednesday, 24 February 2016 00:24:02 UTC, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Tim Streater wrote:
iPhones aren't a technical choice IMHO. They are a fashion statement.

That applies to any so-called "smart" phone. All completely unnecessary.

I'd agree. In the main. I do find having a decent camera in a phone very
useful, though. And sadly, the better camera phones only come in the smart
phones.

Necessary no, but useful and pay their cost back many times over in time saved. All part of more efficient living.


NT

On 23/02/2016 23:05, Tim Streater wrote:
In article , Bob Eager
wrote:

On Tue, 23 Feb 2016 16:36:47 +0000, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

In article ,
whisky-dave wrote:
It sounds as if she dropped the extension lead in the bath, not
really the same as dropping her charging phone in the bath.

Well it couldn;t have been an iphone otherwise the media would have
been all over it claiming Apple are murders.

Natural reaction to the nonsense from Apple users. Seems more of a cult
or religion than a bloody overpriced and hyped phone. ;-)

iPhones aren't a technical choice IMHO. They are a fashion statement.

That applies to any so-called "smart" phone. All completely unnecessary.


You don't need computers either.
Life would continue without technology, but not as we know it.
I like having a hand held computer even though I don't think android is
particularly good, the choice being dictated by wanting the hardware to
be waterproof.

Tim Streater wrote:
In article , Bob Eager
wrote:

On Tue, 23 Feb 2016 16:36:47 +0000, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

In article ,
whisky-dave wrote:
It sounds as if she dropped the extension lead in the bath, not
really the same as dropping her charging phone in the bath.

Well it couldn;t have been an iphone otherwise the media would have
been all over it claiming Apple are murders.

Natural reaction to the nonsense from Apple users. Seems more of a cult
or religion than a bloody overpriced and hyped phone. ;-)

iPhones aren't a technical choice IMHO. They are a fashion statement.

That applies to any so-called "smart" phone. All completely unnecessary.

Not to everybody. I find my smart phone extremely useful, and generally
speaking wouldn't be without it when out and about. I hardly ever make
or receive phone calls, though.

--
Mike Barnes
Cheshire, England

Richard was thinking very hard :
So it didn't "fall in the water".

I've never really believed in this "throw something electrical in the
bath to kill someone" nonsense.

OK. Go and give it a try. Report back ASAP.

I'm a bit sceptical too. Normally there will be a voltage gradient
effect, but very difficult to calculate.

--
Regards,
Harry (M1BYT) (L)
http://www.ukradioamateur.co.uk

The Natural Philosopher was thinking very hard :
On 23/02/16 17:35, Tim Watts wrote:

What were they using for fuses?

Or don't they bother in Russia?




Fuses won't help. An RCD would.

+1

+1 more!

--
Regards,
Harry (M1BYT) (L)
http://www.ukradioamateur.co.uk

On 24/02/16 09:34, Chris French wrote:
Our modern lives are full of things which aren't
necessary but that lots of people spend their money on because
they feel it improves their life


It doesn't of course, but they still feel that.





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In message , Chris French
writes

Yes, the grumpy old man, 'a smartphone isn't necessary' argument,
which seems to be said in a way to suggest therefore no one
should have one (as opposed to 'I don't think it is worthwhile
for me', which is fair enough) always seems like a silly
argument. Our modern lives are full of things which aren't
neccessary but that lots of people spend their money on becuase
they feel it improves their life

Agreed in spades. Last time I carried and used mine was early July last
year, because we happened to be making a long distance car journey, to
see family. My teenage son, though, could not contemplate life without
his, which is used all day, every day, and charged overnight.

--
Graeme

On 23/02/2016 16:33, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Tim Watts wrote:
My father had to once give "expert witness" at an inquest in the 50s,
where a man had electrocuted himself when the small electric heater he
had balanced on the side of the metal bath, fell in.

Used to be pretty common before central heating arrived.


When I was a child ... we had a radiant heater in the bathroom. However,
it was screwed to the wall, high up, and the opposite side of the room
to the bath. So, the potential danger had been spotted and compensated for.

On 24/02/2016 09:26, Harry Bloomfield wrote:
Richard was thinking very hard :
So it didn't "fall in the water".

I've never really believed in this "throw something electrical in the
bath to kill someone" nonsense.

OK. Go and give it a try. Report back ASAP.

I'm a bit sceptical too. Normally there will be a voltage gradient
effect, but very difficult to calculate.


It works in Bond films. Surely, that must mean it's true?

On 23/02/2016 21:48, Bob Eager wrote:

I don't know how well known this is (I used to study local history in
Brighton, I grew up there).

http://publicdomainreview.org/collec...-long-legs-of-
brighton/


Any idea how the electrical power was transmitted?

On 24/02/2016 09:26, Harry Bloomfield wrote:
Richard was thinking very hard :
So it didn't "fall in the water".

I've never really believed in this "throw something electrical in the
bath to kill someone" nonsense.

OK. Go and give it a try. Report back ASAP.

I'm a bit sceptical too. Normally there will be a voltage gradient
effect, but very difficult to calculate.


My initial thoughts were along those lines too, but thinking some more,
if you drop something live into the earthed bath your immediate reaction
may well be to remove it. You pick it up and bingo, all the current
flow is now through your arms and torso to the bath.

I imagine your muscles would spasm and you'd drop/throw it, but it's not
inconceivable that you could get tangled somehow.

We need to experiment.

Cheers
--
Syd

On 24/02/16 09:59, GB wrote:
On 24/02/2016 09:26, Harry Bloomfield wrote:
Richard was thinking very hard :
So it didn't "fall in the water".

I've never really believed in this "throw something electrical in the
bath to kill someone" nonsense.

OK. Go and give it a try. Report back ASAP.

I'm a bit sceptical too. Normally there will be a voltage gradient
effect, but very difficult to calculate.


It works in Bond films. Surely, that must mean it's true?


There are enough incidents of death occurring to make it if not
guaranteed fatal, certainly close to it.



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(or environmental activism) is becoming a general ideology about humans,
about their freedom, about the relationship between the individual and
the state, and about the manipulation of people under the guise of a
'noble' idea. It is not an honest pursuit of 'sustainable development,'
a matter of elementary environmental protection, or a search for
rational mechanisms designed to achieve a healthy environment. Yet
things do occur that make you shake your head and remind yourself that
you live neither in Joseph Stalins Communist era, nor in the Orwellian
utopia of 1984.€�

Vaclav Klaus

En el artículo , Nick
escribió:

It sounds as if she dropped the extension lead in the bath, not really
the same as dropping her charging phone in the bath.

I offer this without comment:

http://www.linuxno.de/_data/gallery/nwl7/DSCN7825.JPG

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(")_(")

In article , GB
wrote:
On 23/02/2016 16:33, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article , Tim Watts
wrote:
My father had to once give "expert witness" at an inquest in the 50s,
where a man had electrocuted himself when the small electric heater he
had balanced on the side of the metal bath, fell in.

Used to be pretty common before central heating arrived.


When I was a child ... we had a radiant heater in the bathroom. However,
it was screwed to the wall, high up, and the opposite side of the room
to the bath. So, the potential danger had been spotted and compensated
for.


Had this in our first house - 1964. I ddin't get round to installing
central heating until a few years later.

--
from KT24 in Surrey, England

"Mike Barnes" wrote in message
...
Tim Streater wrote:
In article , Bob Eager
wrote:

On Tue, 23 Feb 2016 16:36:47 +0000, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

In article ,
whisky-dave wrote:
It sounds as if she dropped the extension lead in the bath, not
really the same as dropping her charging phone in the bath.

Well it couldn;t have been an iphone otherwise the media would have
been all over it claiming Apple are murders.

Natural reaction to the nonsense from Apple users. Seems more of a cult
or religion than a bloody overpriced and hyped phone. ;-)

iPhones aren't a technical choice IMHO. They are a fashion statement.

That applies to any so-called "smart" phone. All completely unnecessary.

Not to everybody. I find my smart phone extremely useful, and generally
speaking wouldn't be without it when out and about. I hardly ever make or
receive phone calls, though.

+1
I've maybe used £5 of airtime in ~2 years but many gigs of wifi.
Actually, a smart phone without a sim is still quite useful with so many
hotspots.

Wrote in message:
On Wednesday, 24 February 2016 00:24:02 UTC, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Tim Streater wrote:
iPhones aren't a technical choice IMHO. They are a fashion statement.

That applies to any so-called "smart" phone. All completely unnecessary.

I'd agree. In the main. I do find having a decent camera in a phone very
useful, though. And sadly, the better camera phones only come in the smart
phones.

Necessary no, but useful and pay their cost back many times over in time saved. All part of more efficient living.


Yes, the grumpy old man, 'a smartphone isn't necessary' argument,
which seems to be said in a way to suggest therefore no one
should have one (as opposed to 'I don't think it is worthwhile
for me', which is fair enough) always seems like a silly
argument. Our modern lives are full of things which aren't
neccessary but that lots of people spend their money on becuase
they feel it improves their life


--
--
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On 24/02/2016 10:06, GB wrote:
On 23/02/2016 21:48, Bob Eager wrote:

I don't know how well known this is (I used to study local history in
Brighton, I grew up there).

http://publicdomainreview.org/collec...-long-legs-of-
brighton/


Any idea how the electrical power was transmitted?

To answer my own question - overhead wires, like a trolley bus. It's
just not very obvious from the pictures.

En el artículo , GB
escribió:

Any idea how the electrical power was transmitted?

Overhead cable. You can see it in one of the photos.

--
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(='.'=) Bunny says: Windows 10? Nein danke!
(")_(")

On 24/02/2016 10:07, Syd Rumpo wrote:

My initial thoughts were along those lines too, but thinking some more,
if you drop something live into the earthed bath your immediate reaction
may well be to remove it. You pick it up and bingo, all the current
flow is now through your arms and torso to the bath.

I imagine your muscles would spasm and you'd drop/throw it, but it's not
inconceivable that you could get tangled somehow.


The information I picked up from somewhere-or-other is that your muscles
do spasm, so you cannot let go!

On 24/02/2016 10:21, Mike Tomlinson wrote:
En el artículo , GB
escribió:

Any idea how the electrical power was transmitted?

Overhead cable. You can see it in one of the photos.


Thanks - I was being slow!

On 24/02/16 10:11, bm wrote:

+1
I've maybe used £5 of airtime in ~2 years but many gigs of wifi.
Actually, a smart phone without a sim is still quite useful with so many
hotspots.



I'm on a 10GB/month plan now and right now I have 6.1GB left until 9th
March,

In article ,
Rod Speed wrote:
Many of us find the other stuff like a decent mapping
system very handy at times, same with being able to
check when a place will open or close when out and
about and you discover that you can visit some place
you hadn't planned to visit or thought you would
visit before you left home or work etc. And it can
be handy when you show up at a place you have
been to before, find its not there anymore, and
need to work out where it's gone to now, or
whether its closed forever or moved.

I take it you never went anywhere before smart phones arrived, then.
Explains a lot.

--
*Give me ambiguity or give me something else.

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

In article ,
Mike Barnes wrote:
That applies to any so-called "smart" phone. All completely
unnecessary.

Not to everybody. I find my smart phone extremely useful, and generally
speaking wouldn't be without it when out and about. I hardly ever make
or receive phone calls, though.

Not susrpring. Some seem to make using the phone part as difficult as
possible. ;-)

--
*Time is the best teacher; unfortunately it kills all its students.

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

On Wed, 24 Feb 2016 10:06:54 +0000, GB wrote:

On 23/02/2016 21:48, Bob Eager wrote:

I don't know how well known this is (I used to study local history in
Brighton, I grew up there).

http://publicdomainreview.org/collec...-long-legs-of-
brighton/


Any idea how the electrical power was transmitted?

Overhead wire (single) and earth return through the rails.

In article ,
Chris French wrote:
Yes, the grumpy old man, 'a smartphone isn't necessary' argument,
which seems to be said in a way to suggest therefore no one
should have one (as opposed to 'I don't think it is worthwhile
for me', which is fair enough) always seems like a silly
argument. Our modern lives are full of things which aren't
neccessary but that lots of people spend their money on becuase
they feel it improves their life

One thing is certain. They don't improve the lives of people around them.
Even just a visit to a quiet cinema is blighted by the light of those
checking them every 5 minutes. Bus journeys by several shouting into them.
Even shopping in a supermarket. Usually someone blocking an isle while
staring at one, and oblivious to everyone else.

It's not the device which is the problem. but many who use them.

--
*Constipated People Don't Give A Crap*

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

In article ,
GB wrote:
On 23/02/2016 16:33, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Tim Watts wrote:
My father had to once give "expert witness" at an inquest in the 50s,
where a man had electrocuted himself when the small electric heater he
had balanced on the side of the metal bath, fell in.

Used to be pretty common before central heating arrived.


When I was a child ... we had a radiant heater in the bathroom. However,
it was screwed to the wall, high up, and the opposite side of the room
to the bath. So, the potential danger had been spotted and compensated
for.

Yes - we had one too. More of a token than room heater. ;-)

--
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Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

On Tuesday, 23 February 2016 19:22:06 UTC, Rod Speed wrote:
"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Tue, 23 Feb 2016 13:46:26 +0000, Syd Rumpo wrote:

I call bull****.

Cheers

Not sure, but running extension leads into bathrooms is asking for
trouble.

I'm surprised there wasn't a socket in the bathroom. Plenty of countries
allow this.

In fact its only really Britain of the majors that doesn't, stupidly IMO.

Why is it stupid, we can see what happens when electrica equipment is used in the bath. I thought the problme was that our regs require bathrooms to be earthed taps/pipes etc, where not all countires do.
If you have a bathroom that isn't earthed then uo'r likey to be safer using and electrical applience while sitting in the bath.

of course the answer now is to buy a bath with USB ports built in.

On Tuesday, 23 February 2016 19:40:58 UTC, Rod Speed wrote:


And in the coldest weather have been known to have a couple
of fan heaters on

I've one on the wall in my bathroom they are OK and pass all the regs in the UK provided you can't switch them on while in the bath.
It also has a pull cord to activate it rather than a switch, so if you do get out the bath then thre's little chance of wet hand getting water on a live component.

On Wed, 24 Feb 2016 10:44:58 +0000 (GMT), "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote:

In article ,
Mike Barnes wrote:
That applies to any so-called "smart" phone. All completely
unnecessary.

Not to everybody. I find my smart phone extremely useful, and generally
speaking wouldn't be without it when out and about. I hardly ever make
or receive phone calls, though.

Not susrpring. Some seem to make using the phone part as difficult as
possible. ;-)

Or you see people with massive hands and tiny touch_screen smartphones
getting frustrated that they can't type anything in correctly (as I
heard over the landline last night when trying to help a mate do stuff
on his smartphone).

For his fingers a Galaxy Note would probably be the minimum (and you
don't always have a 'dibber' to hand). ;-)

With something as important as the UI on a phone you really do need to
consider the match between the phone and the user. That said we
recently replaced my Mums mobile phone (fairly prolific iPad user)
with one of the Doro 'PhoneEasy' conventional looking phones and she
kept trying to use the screen as if it was a touchscreen.

Maybe we should have got her one of these:

http://www.doro.co.uk/mobile-devices...ecure-580.html

That said, getting her to 1) Take it out with her and 2) turn it on if
she takes it out with her and 3) turn it off when she gets home so
it's not flat the next time she remembers to take it out and tries to
turn it on ...

Or now she's 'touchscreen enabled', one of these:

http://www.doro.co.uk/mobile-devices...berto-810.html

Whilst she's still got most of her marbles, 'technology' isn't really
one of her strong points and it's frustrating for us to see her
staring blankly at her phone, wondering why it isn't working when she
hasn't pressed the 'select' key after highlighting an item from the
menu. ;-(

Cheers, T i m

On Wednesday, 24 February 2016 09:25:40 UTC, Mike Barnes wrote:
Tim Streater wrote:
In article , Bob Eager
wrote:

On Tue, 23 Feb 2016 16:36:47 +0000, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

In article ,
whisky-dave wrote:
It sounds as if she dropped the extension lead in the bath, not
really the same as dropping her charging phone in the bath.

Well it couldn;t have been an iphone otherwise the media would have
been all over it claiming Apple are murders.

Natural reaction to the nonsense from Apple users. Seems more of a cult
or religion than a bloody overpriced and hyped phone. ;-)

iPhones aren't a technical choice IMHO. They are a fashion statement.

That applies to any so-called "smart" phone. All completely unnecessary.

Not to everybody. I find my smart phone extremely useful, and generally
speaking wouldn't be without it when out and about. I hardly ever make
or receive phone calls, though.

I'd feel the same but find it annoying that the technology is usually used so one can be less efficient. i.e don't plan anything the night before and expect you to have a phone so they can call you if they are running late.
The most annoying thing is how useless some people are without their smartphones.

In article ,
whisky-dave wrote:
In fact its only really Britain of the majors that doesn't, stupidly
IMO.

Why is it stupid, we can see what happens when electrica equipment is
used in the bath.

You'd think that the lack of 13 amp sockets in a bathroom would make most
sensible people realise why.

But it doesn't stop the use of an extension lead.

--
*Proofread carefully to see if you any words out or mispeld something *

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

In article ,
whisky-dave wrote:
I've one on the wall in my bathroom they are OK and pass all the regs in
the UK provided you can't switch them on while in the bath.

In many small bathrooms, that could prove difficult.

It also has a pull cord to activate it rather than a switch, so if you
do get out the bath then thre's little chance of wet hand getting water
on a live component.

The pull cord switch is specifically there to allow use with wet hands,
etc.

--
*Nostalgia isn't what is used to be.

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

On Wed, 24 Feb 2016 03:19:32 -0800 (PST), whisky-dave
wrote:

snip

The most annoying thing is how useless some people are without their smartphones.

But isn't that the same for pretty well any technology or 'thing' one
relies on? Weren't we saying the same thing about 'Filofaxes' and
probably 'parchment' before that? ;-)

My Dad, an ex merchant seaman knew how to navigate around the world
using the tools that were 'standard' in those days, like a sextant,
compass and chronometer [1]. He was very much against the idea of them
taking away the learning and testing of those basic navigation tools
as 'what happens when the ships GPS or radar stops working'?

Well, the issue may be that with ships as large as they are today the
answer is 'keep your fingers crossed' as it might be very difficult
indeed (if not impossible) to mage these things without technology in
any case. Like the Typhoon fighter jet (is it) that is inherently
unstable and only stays in the air because of the technology?

However, I'm still a bit 'old skool' so will often use of other tools
when say making arrangements with them ... like not only making sure
their number is in my phone but jotting their number and address on a
bit of paper and making sure I have a rough idea where they live and
having a paper map in the car at all times (so not wholly reliant on
the GPS).

The really frustrating thing for me is when people have the technology
but don't make use of it (but then go wrong or expect me / others to
pick up the pieces).

Cheers, T i m

[1] I wonder how many people felt even those was too much reliance on
technology and that *everyone* should know how to navigate using the
sun and stars alone. ;-)

On Wednesday, 24 February 2016 10:07:01 UTC, GB wrote:
On 23/02/2016 21:48, Bob Eager wrote:

I don't know how well known this is (I used to study local history in
Brighton, I grew up there).

http://publicdomainreview.org/collec...-long-legs-of-
brighton/


Any idea how the electrical power was transmitted?

overhead wire, return through the ground/rails


NT

On Wed, 24 Feb 2016 10:08:44 +0000 (GMT), charles
wrote:

In article , GB
wrote:
On 23/02/2016 16:33, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article , Tim Watts
wrote:
My father had to once give "expert witness" at an inquest in the 50s,
where a man had electrocuted himself when the small electric heater he
had balanced on the side of the metal bath, fell in.

Used to be pretty common before central heating arrived.


When I was a child ... we had a radiant heater in the bathroom. However,
it was screwed to the wall, high up, and the opposite side of the room
to the bath. So, the potential danger had been spotted and compensated
for.


Had this in our first house - 1964. I ddin't get round to installing
central heating until a few years later.


Mum only has a heated towel rail in her bathroom but also has one of
the radiant heaters we describe.

It does have it's advantages and I guess may depend what you are used
to to determine if it's adequate or not?

Like some people have their houses pretty hot and so can walk anywhere
wearing next to nothing and be warm. Mum (or even me) is more used to
having one warm room (the lounge) and just getting dressed or washed
and dried 'sharpish' in the winter and not wandering around half naked
in any case. ;-)

The other good thing about the instant radiant heaters is they can be
handy when you have a single chilly day or night where it's not worth
turning the CH on and you just want the warmth for a few minutes.

I am still considering a radiant heater for the workshop as it
wouldn't take up any floor space (unlike a fan heater) and would give
you some warmth without trying to heat up the whole (uninsulated)
workshop?

Cheers, T i m

On Wednesday, 24 February 2016 11:53:22 UTC, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
whisky-dave wrote:
I've one on the wall in my bathroom they are OK and pass all the regs in
the UK provided you can't switch them on while in the bath.

In many small bathrooms, that could prove difficult.

I have what I'd call small bathroom, as theres no room for a shower, just the toilet, sink and bath. You can't turn on the heater while having a **** but can if havign a ****, unless you sit down for it.



It also has a pull cord to activate it rather than a switch, so if you
do get out the bath then thre's little chance of wet hand getting water
on a live component.

The pull cord switch is specifically there to allow use with wet hands,
etc.

Yes but I was told it still had to be out of reach of anyone standing in water.
But I doubt it's the cord anyway as my switch has a metal cord.

On Wednesday, 24 February 2016 11:53:22 UTC, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
whisky-dave wrote:
In fact its only really Britain of the majors that doesn't, stupidly
IMO.

Why is it stupid, we can see what happens when electrica equipment is
used in the bath.

You'd think that the lack of 13 amp sockets in a bathroom would make most
sensible people realise why.

I don't think that is true, as there's more than enough enough in the kitchen.


But it doesn't stop the use of an extension lead.

Not much does.