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A teenager who was using her mobile phone while taking a bath has died
after it fell in the water and electrocuted her. The unnamed 14-year-old had plugged her phone into a charger that was connected to an extension lead at the time. Her devastated mother found the body of her daughter in the bath in their home in Moscow, Russia, after realising that she had been in locked bathroom for a long time. The mother then forced her way inside after getting no response from her daughter before finding her lifeless body inside. The victim had reportedly been so badly electrocuted that her body had started to burn. Her mother said that the teenager had the charger in her hands and the mobile phone was on the floor, and she had used an extension lead because there were no plugs in the bathroom. Prosecutor Yulia Ivanova told local media: Currently we are still investigating and will make a decision on what action to take, if any, once the investigation is completed. |
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On 23/02/2016 13:16, GB wrote:
A teenager who was using her mobile phone while taking a bath has died after it fell in the water and electrocuted her. The unnamed 14-year-old had plugged her phone into a charger that was connected to an extension lead at the time. Her devastated mother found the body of her daughter in the bath in their home in Moscow, Russia, after realising that she had been in locked bathroom for a long time. The mother then forced her way inside after getting no response from her daughter before finding her lifeless body inside. The victim had reportedly been so badly electrocuted that her body had started to burn. Her mother said that the teenager had the charger in her hands and the mobile phone was on the floor, and she had used an extension lead because there were no plugs in the bathroom. Prosecutor Yulia Ivanova told local media: Currently we are still investigating and will make a decision on what action to take, if any, once the investigation is completed. It sounds as if she dropped the extension lead in the bath, not really the same as dropping her charging phone in the bath. |
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On 23/02/2016 13:16, GB wrote:
A teenager who was using her mobile phone while taking a bath has died after it fell in the water and electrocuted her. The unnamed 14-year-old had plugged her phone into a charger that was connected to an extension lead at the time. Her devastated mother found the body of her daughter in the bath in their home in Moscow, Russia, after realising that she had been in locked bathroom for a long time. The mother then forced her way inside after getting no response from her daughter before finding her lifeless body inside. The victim had reportedly been so badly electrocuted that her body had started to burn. Her mother said that the teenager had the charger in her hands and the mobile phone was on the floor, and she had used an extension lead because there were no plugs in the bathroom. Prosecutor Yulia Ivanova told local media: Currently we are still investigating and will make a decision on what action to take, if any, once the investigation is completed. I call bull****. Cheers -- Syd |
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On Tue, 23 Feb 2016 13:46:26 +0000, Syd Rumpo wrote:
I call bull****. Cheers Not sure, but running extension leads into bathrooms is asking for trouble. |
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Nick wrote: It sounds as if she dropped the extension lead in the bath, not really the same as dropping her charging phone in the bath. Well, quite. But you can't expect the meja to know the difference. To them, it was the phone. -- *No radio - Already stolen. Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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Cursitor Doom wrote: On Tue, 23 Feb 2016 13:46:26 +0000, Syd Rumpo wrote: I call bull****. Cheers Not sure, but running extension leads into bathrooms is asking for trouble. I'm surprised there wasn't a socket in the bathroom. Plenty of countries allow this. -- *There's two theories to arguing with a woman. Neither one works * Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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On Tue, 23 Feb 2016 13:46:26 +0000, Syd Rumpo wrote: I call bull****. Cheers Not sure, but running extension leads into bathrooms is asking for trouble. She had charger in hand, does not take much to figure out. |
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Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article , Nick wrote: It sounds as if she dropped the extension lead in the bath, not really the same as dropping her charging phone in the bath. Well, quite. But you can't expect the meja to know the difference. To them, it was the phone. I think they know the difference, but went for the more exciting headline. |
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... In article , Cursitor Doom wrote: On Tue, 23 Feb 2016 13:46:26 +0000, Syd Rumpo wrote: I call bull****. Cheers Not sure, but running extension leads into bathrooms is asking for trouble. I'm surprised there wasn't a socket in the bathroom. Plenty of countries allow this. The only time we use mains in the bathroom is when my wife is trimming my hair with the mains-powered clippers (the sort with various plastic combs for Number 1, Number 2 etc). But when I sit on the side of the bath there's no water in the bath or anywhere around and I keep well away from the taps which will be earthed. So if anything shorts I'm sitting in an insulated bath (fibreglass, not enamel on metal). The ideal would be to get some battery-powered clippers... |
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On 23/02/16 13:16, GB wrote:
A teenager who was using her mobile phone while taking a bath has died after it fell in the water and electrocuted her. The unnamed 14-year-old had plugged her phone into a charger that was connected to an extension lead at the time. Her devastated mother found the body of her daughter in the bath in their home in Moscow, Russia, after realising that she had been in locked bathroom for a long time. The mother then forced her way inside after getting no response from her daughter before finding her lifeless body inside. The victim had reportedly been so badly electrocuted that her body had started to burn. Her mother said that the teenager had the charger in her hands and the mobile phone was on the floor, and she had used an extension lead because there were no plugs in the bathroom. Prosecutor Yulia Ivanova told local media: Currently we are still investigating and will make a decision on what action to take, if any, once the investigation is completed. My father had to once give "expert witness" at an inquest in the 50s, where a man had electrocuted himself when the small electric heater he had balanced on the side of the metal bath, fell in. Not quite sure why the Coronors' wanted an expert witness, but there you go... |
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A teenager who was using her mobile phone while taking a bath has died after it fell in the water and electrocuted her. Hmm, see below.... Her mother said that the teenager had the charger in her hands and the mobile phone was on the floor, and she had used an extension lead because there were no plugs in the bathroom. So it didn't "fall in the water". I've never really believed in this "throw something electrical in the bath to kill someone" nonsense. -- Chris Green · |
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On Tuesday, 23 February 2016 13:26:57 UTC, Nick wrote:
On 23/02/2016 13:16, GB wrote: A teenager who was using her mobile phone while taking a bath has died after it fell in the water and electrocuted her. The unnamed 14-year-old had plugged her phone into a charger that was connected to an extension lead at the time. Her devastated mother found the body of her daughter in the bath in their home in Moscow, Russia, after realising that she had been in locked bathroom for a long time. The mother then forced her way inside after getting no response from her daughter before finding her lifeless body inside. The victim had reportedly been so badly electrocuted that her body had started to burn. Her mother said that the teenager had the charger in her hands and the mobile phone was on the floor, and she had used an extension lead because there were no plugs in the bathroom. Prosecutor Yulia Ivanova told local media: "Currently we are still investigating and will make a decision on what action to take, if any, once the investigation is completed." It sounds as if she dropped the extension lead in the bath, not really the same as dropping her charging phone in the bath. Well it couldn;t have been an iphone otherwise the media would have been all over it claiming Apple are murders. |
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On Tuesday, 23 February 2016 13:53:54 UTC, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Tue, 23 Feb 2016 13:46:26 +0000, Syd Rumpo wrote: I call bull****. Cheers Not sure, but running extension leads into bathrooms is asking for trouble. That's why you're not supposed to do it, well not in the UK, I think the french don't have a problem doing it according to my french flatmate at the time when she asked how am I going to dry my hair. |
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Tim Watts wrote: My father had to once give "expert witness" at an inquest in the 50s, where a man had electrocuted himself when the small electric heater he had balanced on the side of the metal bath, fell in. Used to be pretty common before central heating arrived. -- *When a clock is hungry it goes back four seconds* Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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On 23/02/2016 13:16, GB wrote:
A teenager who was using her mobile phone while taking a bath has died after it fell in the water and electrocuted her. The unnamed 14-year-old had plugged her phone into a charger that was connected to an extension lead at the time. Her devastated mother found the body of her daughter in the bath in their home in Moscow, Russia, after realising that she had been in locked bathroom for a long time. The mother then forced her way inside after getting no response from her daughter before finding her lifeless body inside. The victim had reportedly been so badly electrocuted that her body had started to burn. Her mother said that the teenager had the charger in her hands and the mobile phone was on the floor, and she had used an extension lead because there were no plugs in the bathroom. Prosecutor Yulia Ivanova told local media: Currently we are still investigating and will make a decision on what action to take, if any, once the investigation is completed. Well, she won't do it again - that's for sure! -- Cheers, Roger ____________ Please reply to Newsgroup. Whilst email address is valid, it is seldom checked. |
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whisky-dave wrote: It sounds as if she dropped the extension lead in the bath, not really the same as dropping her charging phone in the bath. Well it couldn;t have been an iphone otherwise the media would have been all over it claiming Apple are murders. Natural reaction to the nonsense from Apple users. Seems more of a cult or religion than a bloody overpriced and hyped phone. ;-) -- *A fine is a tax for doing wrong. A tax is a fine for doing well* Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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On Tue, 23 Feb 2016 13:16:26 +0000, GB wrote:
A teenager who was using her mobile phone while taking a bath has died after it fell in the water and electrocuted her. The unnamed 14-year-old had plugged her phone into a charger that was connected to an extension lead at the time. Her devastated mother found the body of her daughter in the bath in their home in Moscow, Russia, after realising that she had been in locked bathroom for a long time. The mother then forced her way inside after getting no response from her daughter before finding her lifeless body inside. The victim had reportedly been so badly electrocuted that her body had started to burn. Her mother said that the teenager had the charger in her hands and the mobile phone was on the floor, and she had used an extension lead because there were no plugs in the bathroom. Prosecutor Yulia Ivanova told local media: Currently we are still investigating and will make a decision on what action to take, if any, once the investigation is completed. What were they using for fuses? Or don't they bother in Russia? -- Windows 8.1 on PCSpecialist box |
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GB wrote: A teenager who was using her mobile phone while taking a bath has died after it fell in the water and electrocuted her. Hmm, see below.... Her mother said that the teenager had the charger in her hands and the mobile phone was on the floor, and she had used an extension lead because there were no plugs in the bathroom. So it didn't "fall in the water". I've never really believed in this "throw something electrical in the bath to kill someone" nonsense. OK. Go and give it a try. Report back ASAP. |
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On Tuesday, 23 February 2016 16:37:07 UTC, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article , whisky-dave wrote: It sounds as if she dropped the extension lead in the bath, not really the same as dropping her charging phone in the bath. Well it couldn;t have been an iphone otherwise the media would have been all over it claiming Apple are murders. Natural reaction to the nonsense from Apple users. Seems more of a cult or religion than a bloody overpriced and hyped phone. ;-) It can;t be a cult with that many users, the newton was a cult device. I dont see sales of 700 million beign a cult product. Not sure it's over priced either, but then I don't have a smartphone. But those I know do seem to prefer iphones. I'd only listen to those thgat use or have used both anyway, and of those they seem to prefer Apple. -- *A fine is a tax for doing wrong. A tax is a fine for doing well* Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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On 23/02/16 16:57, David wrote:
On Tue, 23 Feb 2016 13:16:26 +0000, GB wrote: A teenager who was using her mobile phone while taking a bath has died after it fell in the water and electrocuted her. The unnamed 14-year-old had plugged her phone into a charger that was connected to an extension lead at the time. Her devastated mother found the body of her daughter in the bath in their home in Moscow, Russia, after realising that she had been in locked bathroom for a long time. The mother then forced her way inside after getting no response from her daughter before finding her lifeless body inside. The victim had reportedly been so badly electrocuted that her body had started to burn. Her mother said that the teenager had the charger in her hands and the mobile phone was on the floor, and she had used an extension lead because there were no plugs in the bathroom. Prosecutor Yulia Ivanova told local media: Currently we are still investigating and will make a decision on what action to take, if any, once the investigation is completed. What were they using for fuses? Or don't they bother in Russia? Fuses won't help. An RCD would. |
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On 23/02/16 16:57, David wrote:
On Tue, 23 Feb 2016 13:16:26 +0000, GB wrote: A teenager who was using her mobile phone while taking a bath has died after it fell in the water and electrocuted her. The unnamed 14-year-old had plugged her phone into a charger that was connected to an extension lead at the time. Her devastated mother found the body of her daughter in the bath in their home in Moscow, Russia, after realising that she had been in locked bathroom for a long time. The mother then forced her way inside after getting no response from her daughter before finding her lifeless body inside. The victim had reportedly been so badly electrocuted that her body had started to burn. Her mother said that the teenager had the charger in her hands and the mobile phone was on the floor, and she had used an extension lead because there were no plugs in the bathroom. Prosecutor Yulia Ivanova told local media: Currently we are still investigating and will make a decision on what action to take, if any, once the investigation is completed. What were they using for fuses? Or don't they bother in Russia? No RCD in all likelihood. Fuse would not blow. Typically a body immersed in earthed water would be around a few hundred to a kilohm. I would think couple of hundred mA to a couple of amps. Not enough to blow a fuse. UK RCDs trip at 30mA for good reason. -- New Socialism consists essentially in being seen to have your heart in the right place whilst your head is in the clouds and your hand is in someone else's pocket. |
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On 23/02/16 17:35, Tim Watts wrote:
What were they using for fuses? Or don't they bother in Russia? Fuses won't help. An RCD would. +1 -- "What do you think about Gay Marriage?" "I don't." "Don't what?" "Think about Gay Marriage." |
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On Tue, 23 Feb 2016 16:36:47 +0000, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article , whisky-dave wrote: It sounds as if she dropped the extension lead in the bath, not really the same as dropping her charging phone in the bath. Well it couldn;t have been an iphone otherwise the media would have been all over it claiming Apple are murders. Natural reaction to the nonsense from Apple users. Seems more of a cult or religion than a bloody overpriced and hyped phone. ;-) iPhones aren't a technical choice IMHO. They are a fashion statement. |
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On 23 Feb 2016 18:28:49 GMT, Bob Eager wrote:
On Tue, 23 Feb 2016 16:36:47 +0000, Dave Plowman (News) wrote: In article , whisky-dave wrote: It sounds as if she dropped the extension lead in the bath, not really the same as dropping her charging phone in the bath. Well it couldn;t have been an iphone otherwise the media would have been all over it claiming Apple are murders. Natural reaction to the nonsense from Apple users. Seems more of a cult or religion than a bloody overpriced and hyped phone. ;-) iPhones aren't a technical choice IMHO. They are a fashion statement. Whilst they may be for some (or were at least), I think some people appreciate the UI because it allows *them* to do things they previously couldn't with their non iPhone and possibly even an Android phone. This was the case for my mates Mrs when she first got her iPhone and who could then take a picture an email it to someone, something she couldn't have done previously (the phone could do it, she couldn't). I know the UI makes a big difference because I know the Apple UI isn't as intuitive to me as that of Android. My 85 year old Mum has and loves her iPad but even though it is fairly easy for non technical people to use (that was part of their design goals), she doesn't really understand past what little she actually uses regularly. Daughter has never liked (or owned) any of the iStuff but then she is reasonably computer literate [1] so able to rip her own CD's and move the files onto her 'basic' MP3 player herself. 'Most people' couldn't do that and hence how the whole iTMS iTunes iDevice thing took off. Cheers, T i m [1] She recently upgraded the uSD card in her Galaxy Android phone and used her laptop to copy the photos off the old card and back onto the new one, plus move all the photos left on the phone internal memory onto the new card as well. |
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On Tuesday, 23 February 2016 13:16:29 UTC, GB wrote:
A teenager who was using her mobile phone while taking a bath has died after it fell in the water and electrocuted her. The unnamed 14-year-old had plugged her phone into a charger that was connected to an extension lead at the time. Her devastated mother found the body of her daughter in the bath in their home in Moscow, Russia, after realising that she had been in locked bathroom for a long time. The mother then forced her way inside after getting no response from her daughter before finding her lifeless body inside. The victim had reportedly been so badly electrocuted that her body had started to burn. Her mother said that the teenager had the charger in her hands and the mobile phone was on the floor, and she had used an extension lead because there were no plugs in the bathroom. Prosecutor Yulia Ivanova told local media: "Currently we are still investigating and will make a decision on what action to take, if any, once the investigation is completed." this was once a serious DHW installation http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php/Bathroom_electrics NT |
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On 23 Feb 2016 18:28:49 GMT, Bob Eager wrote:
On Tue, 23 Feb 2016 16:36:47 +0000, Dave Plowman (News) wrote: In article , whisky-dave wrote: It sounds as if she dropped the extension lead in the bath, not really the same as dropping her charging phone in the bath. Well it couldn;t have been an iphone otherwise the media would have been all over it claiming Apple are murders. Natural reaction to the nonsense from Apple users. Seems more of a cult or religion than a bloody overpriced and hyped phone. ;-) iPhones aren't a technical choice IMHO. They are a fashion statement. Apple's own advertising slogan was: "If you haven't got an iPhone, you haven't got an iPhone." Says it all doesn't it? -- Graham. %Profound_observation% |
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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message ... In article , Cursitor Doom wrote: On Tue, 23 Feb 2016 13:46:26 +0000, Syd Rumpo wrote: I call bull****. Cheers Not sure, but running extension leads into bathrooms is asking for trouble. I'm surprised there wasn't a socket in the bathroom. Plenty of countries allow this. In fact its only really Britain of the majors that doesnt, stupidly IMO. |
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"NY" wrote in message o.uk... "Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message ... In article , Cursitor Doom wrote: On Tue, 23 Feb 2016 13:46:26 +0000, Syd Rumpo wrote: I call bull****. Cheers Not sure, but running extension leads into bathrooms is asking for trouble. I'm surprised there wasn't a socket in the bathroom. Plenty of countries allow this. The only time we use mains in the bathroom is when my wife is trimming my hair with the mains-powered clippers (the sort with various plastic combs for Number 1, Number 2 etc). But when I sit on the side of the bath there's no water in the bath or anywhere around and I keep well away from the taps which will be earthed. So if anything shorts I'm sitting in an insulated bath (fibreglass, not enamel on metal). I use mine in there all the time and dont bother to keep away from metal. And dont keep away from metal when using appliances in the kitchen either. The ideal would be to get some battery-powered clippers... Mine are in fact rechargeable and while the battery is still fine I normally do use them battery powered, but it works fine while being charged so when the battery is dying I use it plugged into the charger. And mine is a combined bathroom laundry so has the washing machine etc in it too. And I do the distilling there too, electric still. And in the coldest weather have been known to have a couple of fan heaters on now that I dont bother to heat the house in the winter. Its a passive solar house, but after a run of heavy overcast weather with the max temp not getting over 0C outside, it can get a bit cold in the bathroom in those conditions. |
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On Tuesday, 23 February 2016 19:11:33 UTC, wrote:
this was once a serious DHW installation http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php/Bathroom_electrics That looks more like a medical 'electric bath' from the early 20th century, it is intentionally designed to pass a controlled amount of current through the water/body, I wouldn't go near it though, passing any level of current through the body is potentially lethal, as individuals can have heart conditions etc. NT |
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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message ... In article , Cursitor Doom wrote: On Tue, 23 Feb 2016 13:46:26 +0000, Syd Rumpo wrote: I call bull****. Cheers Not sure, but running extension leads into bathrooms is asking for trouble. I'm surprised there wasn't a socket in the bathroom. Plenty of countries allow this. The only time we use mains in the bathroom is when my wife is trimming my hair with the mains-powered clippers (the sort with various plastic combs for Number 1, Number 2 etc). But when I sit on the side of the bath there's no water in the bath or anywhere around and I keep well away from the taps which will be earthed. So if anything shorts I'm sitting in an insulated bath (fibreglass, not enamel on metal). The ideal would be to get some battery-powered clippers... I plug mine into a shaver socket. -- Mike Barnes Cheshire, England |
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The only time we use mains in the bathroom is when my wife is trimming my hair with the mains-powered clippers The ideal would be to get some battery-powered clippers... The Wahl 802X Li-ion ones have plenty of oomph ... |
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"Bob Eager" wrote in message ... On Tue, 23 Feb 2016 16:36:47 +0000, Dave Plowman (News) wrote: In article , whisky-dave wrote: It sounds as if she dropped the extension lead in the bath, not really the same as dropping her charging phone in the bath. Well it couldn;t have been an iphone otherwise the media would have been all over it claiming Apple are murders. Natural reaction to the nonsense from Apple users. Seems more of a cult or religion than a bloody overpriced and hyped phone. ;-) iPhones aren't a technical choice IMHO. They can be, particularly by those who want the best security that the sandboxing gives. Nothing like that with the alternatives. You dont have to care what an app might be doing with the data that belongs to other apps, because it cant have any access to anything that you dont allow it to have. They are a fashion statement. Plenty of the time they are bought by those who want a much better done product which does things better. |
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"Graham." wrote in message ... On 23 Feb 2016 18:28:49 GMT, Bob Eager wrote: On Tue, 23 Feb 2016 16:36:47 +0000, Dave Plowman (News) wrote: In article , whisky-dave wrote: It sounds as if she dropped the extension lead in the bath, not really the same as dropping her charging phone in the bath. Well it couldn;t have been an iphone otherwise the media would have been all over it claiming Apple are murders. Natural reaction to the nonsense from Apple users. Seems more of a cult or religion than a bloody overpriced and hyped phone. ;-) iPhones aren't a technical choice IMHO. They are a fashion statement. Apple's own advertising slogan was: "If you haven't got an iPhone, you haven't got an iPhone." Says it all doesn't it? Not when the sandboxing gives much better protection of your data. |
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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message ... In article , Cursitor Doom wrote: On Tue, 23 Feb 2016 13:46:26 +0000, Syd Rumpo wrote: I call bull****. Cheers Not sure, but running extension leads into bathrooms is asking for trouble. I'm surprised there wasn't a socket in the bathroom. Plenty of countries allow this. In fact its only really Britain of the majors that doesnt, stupidly IMO. https://groups.google.com/forum/#!ms...g/arbvFRAzMq0J http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-settlers.html You are and always will be a very stupid Australian ******. |
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On Tue, 23 Feb 2016 12:09:03 -0800, Jaffna Dog wrote:
On Tuesday, 23 February 2016 19:11:33 UTC, wrote: this was once a serious DHW installation http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php/Bathroom_electrics That looks more like a medical 'electric bath' from the early 20th century, it is intentionally designed to pass a controlled amount of current through the water/body, I wouldn't go near it though, passing any level of current through the body is potentially lethal, as individuals can have heart conditions etc. I don't know how well known this is (I used to study local history in Brighton, I grew up there). http://publicdomainreview.org/collec...-long-legs-of- brighton/ People reputedly swam in the sea because they believed they would get benefit from the 'electric current'. Not quite quite how... |
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On Tuesday, 23 February 2016 21:48:51 UTC, Bob Eager wrote:
I don't know how well known this is (I used to study local history in Brighton, I grew up there). http://publicdomainreview.org/collec...-long-legs-of- brighton/ It just managed to be around when the 1898 OS plan was surveyed. A year or two off either way and there'd be no mapped documentation of it. jgh |
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Tim Streater wrote: iPhones aren't a technical choice IMHO. They are a fashion statement. That applies to any so-called "smart" phone. All completely unnecessary. I'd agree. In the main. I do find having a decent camera in a phone very useful, though. And sadly, the better camera phones only come in the smart phones. -- *If a mute swears, does his mother wash his hands with soap? Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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