I'm looking at redoing my bathroom, removing the bath[1] and fitting a
decent-sized shower cubicle, and due to the position of the windows
and a large conduit (about 8in square, I think) containing central
heating pipes the only place it can logically go is in the "middle" of
a wall, against the conduit. It can't go where the shower head on the
bath currently is because it would block the window. (Indeed, one
reason for the plan is so the shower isn't spraying down onto the
windowsill, because this causes water to collect on there, causing
mould and other problems e.g. leaks).

However, I've found that practically nowhere seems to sell three-sided
cubicles, except the *very* premium end of the market.

Does anyone know a place where 3-sided cubicles can be obtained for a
reasonable price, or if not have any other suggestions as to how I can
achieve a similar effect? I don't just want to put up a plasterboard
wall or similar because it would block the light from the window. I
have considered having half the window bricked up, but I like the
light I get from an almost-full-width window in what is quite a small
bathroom. The only other corner that would be available has the
toilet in it, and moving a toilet is not necessarily an easy venture,
as I understand it.

[1] Several people have said to me that'll reduce the value, but as I
don't intend to move for the foreseeable future, and I never have
baths, only showers, I can always put a bath back if it helps sale
later.

Neil

Neil Williams wrote:
I'm looking at redoing my bathroom, removing the bath[1] and fitting a
decent-sized shower cubicle, and due to the position of the windows
and a large conduit (about 8in square, I think) containing central
heating pipes the only place it can logically go is in the "middle" of
a wall, against the conduit. It can't go where the shower head on the
bath currently is because it would block the window. (Indeed, one
reason for the plan is so the shower isn't spraying down onto the
windowsill, because this causes water to collect on there, causing
mould and other problems e.g. leaks).

However, I've found that practically nowhere seems to sell three-sided
cubicles, except the *very* premium end of the market.

Does anyone know a place where 3-sided cubicles can be obtained for a
reasonable price, or if not have any other suggestions as to how I can
achieve a similar effect? I don't just want to put up a plasterboard
wall or similar because it would block the light from the window. I
have considered having half the window bricked up, but I like the
light I get from an almost-full-width window in what is quite a small
bathroom. The only other corner that would be available has the
toilet in it, and moving a toilet is not necessarily an easy venture,
as I understand it.

[1] Several people have said to me that'll reduce the value, but as I
don't intend to move for the foreseeable future, and I never have
baths, only showers, I can always put a bath back if it helps sale
later.

Neil

Is the conduit in the corner of the room? If so, I'd be tempted to turn
that into a narrow deep cupboard for storage and then install a two sided
enclosure up against that.
A picture of the existing floor plan would be a big help.

Tim

On Sep 22, 9:27 am, Neil Williams wrote:
I'm looking at redoing my bathroom, removing the bath[1] and fitting a
decent-sized shower cubicle, and due to the position of the windows
and a large conduit (about 8in square, I think) containing central
heating pipes the only place it can logically go is in the "middle" of
a wall, against the conduit. It can't go where the shower head on the
bath currently is because it would block the window. (Indeed, one
reason for the plan is so the shower isn't spraying down onto the
windowsill, because this causes water to collect on there, causing
mould and other problems e.g. leaks).

However, I've found that practically nowhere seems to sell three-sided
cubicles, except the *very* premium end of the market.

Does anyone know a place where 3-sided cubicles can be obtained for a
reasonable price, or if not have any other suggestions as to how I can
achieve a similar effect? I don't just want to put up a plasterboard
wall or similar because it would block the light from the window. I
have considered having half the window bricked up, but I like the
light I get from an almost-full-width window in what is quite a small
bathroom. The only other corner that would be available has the
toilet in it, and moving a toilet is not necessarily an easy venture,
as I understand it.

[1] Several people have said to me that'll reduce the value, but as I
don't intend to move for the foreseeable future, and I never have
baths, only showers, I can always put a bath back if it helps sale
later.

Neil

how big a shower (floorspace taken up) do you want and how much is too
much money?

Jim K

On 22/09/2011 09:27, Neil Williams wrote:
I'm looking at redoing my bathroom, removing the bath[1] and fitting a
decent-sized shower cubicle, and due to the position of the windows
and a large conduit (about 8in square, I think) containing central
heating pipes the only place it can logically go is in the "middle" of
a wall, against the conduit. It can't go where the shower head on the
bath currently is because it would block the window. (Indeed, one
reason for the plan is so the shower isn't spraying down onto the
windowsill, because this causes water to collect on there, causing
mould and other problems e.g. leaks).

However, I've found that practically nowhere seems to sell three-sided
cubicles, except the *very* premium end of the market.

Does anyone know a place where 3-sided cubicles can be obtained for a
reasonable price, or if not have any other suggestions as to how I can
achieve a similar effect? I don't just want to put up a plasterboard
wall or similar because it would block the light from the window. I
have considered having half the window bricked up, but I like the
light I get from an almost-full-width window in what is quite a small
bathroom. The only other corner that would be available has the
toilet in it, and moving a toilet is not necessarily an easy venture,
as I understand it.

[1] Several people have said to me that'll reduce the value, but as I
don't intend to move for the foreseeable future, and I never have
baths, only showers, I can always put a bath back if it helps sale
later.

Neil

I've been thinking about the same thing for at least 5 years but
everything I've seen looks tatty and costs a bomb. The pre-assembled
free standing cubicles would be ideal for me but I hear they have no
rigidity.
I've even thought of building my own with those glass blocks (very 80s I
guess) but finishing the front edges and making it look like a shower
enclosure doesn't seem easy.

On Sep 22, 10:44*am, Tim wrote:

Is the conduit in the corner of the room? If so, I'd be tempted to turn
that into a narrow deep cupboard for storage and then install a two sided
enclosure up against that.

Yes. The trouble with doing that is that it would block half the
window, which I'm trying to avoid.

The floor plan is a bit like this (use fixed pitch font):-

-=====--
[BBBBB]C
S
/ T

where B=bath, S=sink, T=toilet and / is the door. The window is shown
as =s on the outside wall. There's more wall on the conduit side.

I envisage it becoming something like this:-

-=====--
S C
sss
/ T

where s is the shower. The conduit takes up less than half the width
of the bath (which is itself a fairly standard size) so the shower
would be further across towards that than the ASCII plan shows and
would leave a bit more space next to the bog than the diagram
implies. I haven't measured things up properly yet so I don't know
exactly what size enclosure would be involved, but there seem to be
plenty of options.

As I mentioned, I've considered having the window made smaller - I
just quite like the amount of light the large window lets in.

Neil

On Sep 22, 11:06*am, Jim K wrote:

how big a shower (floorspace taken up) do you want and how much is too
much money?

I'm assuming I'll be DIYing it (as the group would have it ) and
I'm looking at spending DIY-barn sort of money on it (i.e. a few
hundred), not the multi-thousand-quid premium stuff.

Size wise, whatever fits, I haven't properly measured up yet, still at
the concept stage But the layout in my other post (the space I've
got is basically [width of bath]+[width of sink]-[about 8" for
conduit, maybe a bit less]-[a bit of space by the side of the bog].

Neil

On Sep 22, 11:21*am, stuart noble wrote:

I've been thinking about the same thing for at least 5 years but
everything I've seen looks tatty and costs a bomb.

It's surprising that so little seems to be available given that it's a
fairly common feature of 1970s build houses (this is a fairly standard
1970 3-bed terraced Barratt box of the kind that tended to have road
access to the rear rather than the front) to have very wide windows,
leaving little brickwork either side. I generally like this feature
as it makes it far lighter inside than the 1990s flat I lived in
previously, and indeed it was one of the reasons I chose this house
when I bought it last December. But it's a bit of a nuisance in this
aspect alone.

Neil

Neil Williams wrote:
plans for shower cubicle

Depending on your budget, you can get modular panels that fit together
in any shape you want from makers like Aqualux, what you seem to want
want will cost between £500 and £1000 plus fitting depending on size. Or
build a frame round a decent sized shower tray from metal sections and
have a word with your local glass supplier about cutting some laminated
glass or plastic glazing material to size.


--
Tciao for Now!

John.

On Sep 22, 10:29 am, Neil Williams wrote:
On Sep 22, 11:06 am, Jim K wrote:

how big a shower (floorspace taken up) do you want and how much is too
much money?

I'm assuming I'll be DIYing it (as the group would have it ) and
I'm looking at spending DIY-barn sort of money on it (i.e. a few
hundred), not the multi-thousand-quid premium stuff.

Size wise, whatever fits, I haven't properly measured up yet, still at
the concept stage But the layout in my other post (the space I've
got is basically [width of bath]+[width of sink]-[about 8" for
conduit, maybe a bit less]-[a bit of space by the side of the bog].

Neil

so no details to work with there then ;)

Jim K

"Neil Williams" wrote in message
...
I'm looking at redoing my bathroom, removing the bath[1] and fitting a
decent-sized shower cubicle, and due to the position of the windows
and a large conduit (about 8in square, I think) containing central
heating pipes the only place it can logically go is in the "middle" of
a wall, against the conduit. It can't go where the shower head on the
bath currently is because it would block the window. (Indeed, one
reason for the plan is so the shower isn't spraying down onto the
windowsill, because this causes water to collect on there, causing
mould and other problems e.g. leaks).



Replacing bath with shower only certainly reduces selling price and would
dissuade some purchasers ... happened to my parents.

It is strange that 3 sided showers and baths are the norm in US .... as they
simply drop in place and don't leak.
They are a bit tatty, basic smooth thin plastic.

The UK ones do tend to be premium products.


An alternative would be make a 3 sided cubicle that 'sits' on an upstand
tray .... if you use Respatex, then you have a very strong panel ... and
waterproof.
They do specific shower sized panels ... OK for standard tray ... but as I
wanted bigger oblong and corner trays in my build I used the standard
panels.

No tiles, no grout to fail ... http://respatex.co.uk/index.html

They also do all the trims, and you screw your shower door direct to it.


If you have a corner of a room you are using ... then you would simply screw
through the t&g overlap of panel into vertical stud, and slide in next
panel.
If you have brick wall .. then probably easier to put a batten up vertically
then fix to that.

An alternative would be make a 3 sided cubicle that 'sits' on an upstand
tray .... if you use Respatex, then you have a very strong panel ... and
waterproof.
They do specific shower sized panels ... OK for standard tray ... but as I
wanted bigger oblong and corner trays in my build I used the standard
panels.

No tiles, no grout to fail ... http://respatex.co.uk/index.html

They also do all the trims, and you screw your shower door direct to it.

Just looked there are details sheets on how to build a showers on:
http://respatex.co.uk/shower_install.html

On Sep 22, 11:39*am, John Williamson
wrote:

Depending on your budget, you can get modular panels that fit together
in any shape you want from makers like Aqualux, what you seem to want
want will cost between 500 and 1000 plus fitting depending on size.

That sounds worth investigating, thanks. Surprised B&Q etc don't seem
to do such stuff.

Neil

On Sep 22, 12:03*pm, "Rick Hughes"
wrote:

Replacing bath with shower only certainly reduces selling price and would
dissuade some purchasers ... happened to my parents.

This is true, but I don't intend to move any time soon, so I'd rather
have a bathroom the way I want it and take that risk, and if necessary
rejig it again before selling. I suppose no bath is likely to
dissuade families, but might well act as an encouragement for those
who don't have or intend to have children (I'd have been swayed to
some extent had a house I looked at had a power shower in a good sized
cubicle instead of a bath, but none actually did).

Valid point, though.

Neil

"Neil Williams" wrote in message
...
On Sep 22, 11:39 am, John Williamson
wrote:

Depending on your budget, you can get modular panels that fit together
in any shape you want from makers like Aqualux, what you seem to want
want will cost between 500 and 1000 plus fitting depending on size.

That sounds worth investigating, thanks. Surprised B&Q etc don't seem
to do such stuff.

The last shower I did was with some panels, Formica (or a copy) with 10 mm
of rigid foam on the back.
Plastic strips to make the joints, front ones fitted into strips mounted on
the wall behind the boards.
They were 8x4 so I need three to make a shower.
They were in packs of two from wickes and were reduced to £75 a pack.
They were glued to the wall using silicone, the edging strips were screwed.
Worked really well with the 4x3.5 shower tray.

In article ba7284c4-1058-41ad-9a35-a67d1adce337
@ge10g2000vbb.googlegroups.com, says...
I'm looking at redoing my bathroom, removing the bath[1] and fitting a
decent-sized shower cubicle, and due to the position of the windows
and a large conduit (about 8in square, I think) containing central
heating pipes the only place it can logically go is in the "middle" of
a wall, against the conduit. It can't go where the shower head on the
bath currently is because it would block the window. (Indeed, one
reason for the plan is so the shower isn't spraying down onto the
windowsill, because this causes water to collect on there, causing
mould and other problems e.g. leaks).

However, I've found that practically nowhere seems to sell three-sided
cubicles, except the *very* premium end of the market.

Does anyone know a place where 3-sided cubicles can be obtained for a
reasonable price, or if not have any other suggestions as to how I can
achieve a similar effect? I don't just want to put up a plasterboard
wall or similar because it would block the light from the window. I
have considered having half the window bricked up, but I like the
light I get from an almost-full-width window in what is quite a small
bathroom. The only other corner that would be available has the
toilet in it, and moving a toilet is not necessarily an easy venture,
as I understand it.

[1] Several people have said to me that'll reduce the value, but as I
don't intend to move for the foreseeable future, and I never have
baths, only showers, I can always put a bath back if it helps sale
later.

Neil

Don't know if it counts as reasonable, but there's a D-shaped Cooke &
Lewis enclosure for £699 at B&Q. We got something similar last year but
waited until it appeared in the regular half-price offers.

Ken.

On 22/09/2011 09:27, Neil Williams wrote:
I'm looking at redoing my bathroom, removing the bath[1] and fitting a
decent-sized shower cubicle,

[1] Several people have said to me that'll reduce the value, but as I
don't intend to move for the foreseeable future, and I never have
baths, only showers, I can always put a bath back if it helps sale
later.

[snipping]

There was an article a couple of weeks ago in the Saturday Guardian
Money about switching bath for wetroom with readers comments/feedback.
Article at:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/money/blog...ternative-bath

Allan
(no connection with Guardian, other than as - ahem - a reader)

On Sep 22, 1:13*pm, Ken wrote:

Don't know if it counts as reasonable, but there's a D-shaped Cooke &
Lewis enclosure for 699 at B&Q. We got something similar last year but
waited until it appeared in the regular half-price offers.

That might be worth a look, particularly if it'll be half-priced at
some point. I can always buy when cheap and put in the loft/shed
until ready to do the work.

Neil

On Sep 22, 1:20*pm, Allan wrote:

There was an article a couple of weeks ago in the Saturday Guardian
Money about switching bath for wetroom with readers comments/feedback.
Article at:http://www.guardian.co.uk/money/blog...om-viable-alte...

It's an interesting one. I'm not a fan of wetrooms, but it's the same
principle I suppose.

One thing I found interesting was that one of the houses I looked at
while buying was being refurbished - and they went for a traditional
style standalone bath instead of a regular panelled plastic one. This
is not only not a proper shower, but completely unsuitable for fitting
one unless you put in an all-round shower curtain and like it sticking
to you (ugh).

So is the demand *really* that much in favour of baths? I know you
need one if bringing up young children, but I find a good shower[1] so
much more pleasant and so much quicker so you can have one in the
morning before work every day.

I suppose I'm biased on one thing - being 6' 4" I don't fit a bath
very well, so if I did want one for me it'd have to be a long one.

[1] Not a crappy cheapo electric one. I have a combi boiler which
gives excellent flow for the shower - but if I didn't a pump would
have been well up the list.

Neil

On Sep 22, 12:45 pm, Neil Williams wrote:
On Sep 22, 1:13 pm, Ken wrote:

Don't know if it counts as reasonable, but there's a D-shaped Cooke &
Lewis enclosure for 699 at B&Q. We got something similar last year but
waited until it appeared in the regular half-price offers.

That might be worth a look, particularly if it'll be half-priced at
some point. I can always buy when cheap and put in the loft/shed
until ready to do the work.

Neil

so are you wanting a "traditional" glass enclosure with door set on
top of a shower tray? or a prefabricated plastic "cabinet" affair?

It's too hard to help if we don't know a) what you want or b) how big
it can be or c) how much you will spend....

Jim K

Neil Williams wrote:
On Sep 22, 10:44 am, Tim wrote:

Is the conduit in the corner of the room? If so, I'd be tempted to
turn that into a narrow deep cupboard for storage and then install a
two sided enclosure up against that.

Yes. The trouble with doing that is that it would block half the
window, which I'm trying to avoid.

Okay, hadn't realised it was by the window.


The floor plan is a bit like this (use fixed pitch font):-

-=====--
[BBBBB]C
S
/ T

where B=bath, S=sink, T=toilet and / is the door. The window is shown
as =s on the outside wall. There's more wall on the conduit side.

I envisage it becoming something like this:-

-=====--
S C
sss
/ T

At a guess I'd say that the conduit probably contains the soil stack (is
there a vent pipe showing about the roof or anything visible in the loft?).

If that's the case, would moving the toilet across to where the sink is let
you fit the shower in the corner vacated by the sink?

Tim

On Thu, 22 Sep 2011 12:49:38 +0100, Neil Williams
wrote:

On Sep 22, 1:20 pm, Allan wrote:

There was an article a couple of weeks ago in the Saturday Guardian
Money about switching bath for wetroom with readers comments/feedback.
Article
at:http://www.guardian.co.uk/money/blog...om-viable-alte...

It's an interesting one. I'm not a fan of wetrooms, but it's the same
principle I suppose.

One thing I found interesting was that one of the houses I looked at
while buying was being refurbished - and they went for a traditional
style standalone bath instead of a regular panelled plastic one. This
is not only not a proper shower, but completely unsuitable for fitting
one unless you put in an all-round shower curtain and like it sticking
to you (ugh).

So is the demand *really* that much in favour of baths? I know you
need one if bringing up young children, but I find a good shower[1] so
much more pleasant and so much quicker so you can have one in the
morning before work every day.

I suppose I'm biased on one thing - being 6' 4" I don't fit a bath
very well, so if I did want one for me it'd have to be a long one.

[1] Not a crappy cheapo electric one. I have a combi boiler which
gives excellent flow for the shower - but if I didn't a pump would
have been well up the list.

Neil

Illness can catapult people from being happily shower-only to
bath-is-vital in no time at all.

I would never accept a shower-only house having experienced just that - a
partner who became unable to shower. Thank goodness we have a bath.

--
Rod

On Sep 22, 1:58*pm, "Tim Downie" wrote:

At a guess I'd say that the conduit probably contains the soil stack (is
there a vent pipe showing about the roof or anything visible in the loft?).

I will have a look.

If that's the case, would moving the toilet across to where the sink is let
you fit the shower in the corner vacated by the sink?

That might well be an option if it's an easy-ish job.

Neil

On Sep 22, 2:05*pm, polygonum wrote:

Illness can catapult people from being happily shower-only to *
bath-is-vital in no time at all.

I would never accept a shower-only house having experienced just that - a *
partner who became unable to shower. Thank goodness we have a bath.

For me personally that isn't much of a concern, mainly because I live
on my own, so if I became dependent to the point where I couldn't
stand in the shower (or I suppose shower seated on a plastic stool)
I'd have to move in with someone else either temporarily or
permanently, probably my parents.

And as noted I can always change it back when I want to sell. That
might be a motivation to stick with *roughly* the same layout rather
than moving the bog, so a cheap bath could be fitted at low cost.

But to look at it differently, why compromise my enjoyment of the
house now for something that *might* happen? (OK, I probably will
move at some point, but not in the near future unless forced to due to
financial circumstances).

Neil

On Thu, 22 Sep 2011 13:16:29 +0100, Neil Williams
wrote:

On Sep 22, 1:58 pm, "Tim Downie" wrote:

At a guess I'd say that the conduit probably contains the soil stack (is
there a vent pipe showing about the roof or anything visible in the
loft?).

I will have a look.

If that's the case, would moving the toilet across to where the sink is
let
you fit the shower in the corner vacated by the sink?

That might well be an option if it's an easy-ish job.

Neil

If it is only to vent the stack, that pipe could be reduced to something
like 3 inch diameter.

Or, with suitable attention to air admittance, remove it entirely.

--
Rod

Neil Williams wrote:
On Sep 22, 11:39 am, John Williamson
wrote:

Depending on your budget, you can get modular panels that fit together
in any shape you want from makers like Aqualux, what you seem to want
want will cost between 500 and 1000 plus fitting depending on size.

That sounds worth investigating, thanks. Surprised B&Q etc don't seem
to do such stuff.

If it stays on their shelves for more than a couple of weeks, it's not
turning the stock over fast enough for their business model.
--
Tciao for Now!

John.

On Thu, 22 Sep 2011 13:20:57 +0100, Neil Williams
wrote:

On Sep 22, 2:05 pm, polygonum wrote:

Illness can catapult people from being happily shower-only to
bath-is-vital in no time at all.

I would never accept a shower-only house having experienced just that -
a partner who became unable to shower. Thank goodness we have a bath.

For me personally that isn't much of a concern, mainly because I live
on my own, so if I became dependent to the point where I couldn't
stand in the shower (or I suppose shower seated on a plastic stool)
I'd have to move in with someone else either temporarily or
permanently, probably my parents.

And as noted I can always change it back when I want to sell. That
might be a motivation to stick with *roughly* the same layout rather
than moving the bog, so a cheap bath could be fitted at low cost.

But to look at it differently, why compromise my enjoyment of the
house now for something that *might* happen? (OK, I probably will
move at some point, but not in the near future unless forced to due to
financial circumstances).

Neil

Fine - of course that is entirely your choice. But I was really trying to
explain why a bath is so important to so many people.

Without explanation, you would probably never be able to guess why my
partner can't shower - it is nothing to do with standing/sitting or
anything like that at all. At it appeared out of nowhere.

--
Rod

On Sep 22, 2:29*pm, polygonum wrote:

Fine - of course that is entirely your choice. But I was really trying to *
explain why a bath is so important to so many people.

Fair enough... the obvious one for a smallish 3 bed terrace (as it is)
is I suppose the early years of a baby.

Without explanation, you would probably never be able to guess why my *
partner can't shower - it is nothing to do with standing/sitting or *
anything like that at all. At it appeared out of nowhere.

Fair enough. I can't imagine whatever it is is common though given
what you say. But if I wasn't able to shower, I'd probably have to
consider moving house anyway, as being 6' 4" I don't fit a normal bath
usefully well and would have to move to a house with a larger bathroom
for a larger bath (or I suppose knock the bathroom through into the
second bedroom and extend by a foot or so).

Neil

On Sep 22, 1:05*pm, polygonum wrote:
Illness can catapult people from being happily shower-only to *
bath-is-vital in no time at all.

I would never accept a shower-only house having experienced just that - a *
partner who became unable to shower. Thank goodness we have a bath.

Fascinating. I would have expected illness to move people from
"prefer bath" to shower-only much more frequently.

polygonum wrote:
On Thu, 22 Sep 2011 12:49:38 +0100, Neil Williams
wrote:

On Sep 22, 1:20 pm, Allan wrote:

There was an article a couple of weeks ago in the Saturday Guardian
Money about switching bath for wetroom with readers
comments/feedback. Article
at:http://www.guardian.co.uk/money/blog...om-viable-alte...

It's an interesting one. I'm not a fan of wetrooms, but it's the
same principle I suppose.

One thing I found interesting was that one of the houses I looked at
while buying was being refurbished - and they went for a traditional
style standalone bath instead of a regular panelled plastic one. This is
not only not a proper shower, but completely unsuitable for
fitting one unless you put in an all-round shower curtain and like
it sticking to you (ugh).

So is the demand *really* that much in favour of baths? I know you
need one if bringing up young children, but I find a good shower[1]
so much more pleasant and so much quicker so you can have one in the
morning before work every day.

I suppose I'm biased on one thing - being 6' 4" I don't fit a bath
very well, so if I did want one for me it'd have to be a long one.

[1] Not a crappy cheapo electric one. I have a combi boiler which
gives excellent flow for the shower - but if I didn't a pump would
have been well up the list.

Neil

Illness can catapult people from being happily shower-only to
bath-is-vital in no time at all.

It can also do the opposite.

--
Adam

Neil Williams wrote:
I'm looking at redoing my bathroom, removing the bath[1] and fitting a
decent-sized shower cubicle, and due to the position of the windows
and a large conduit (about 8in square, I think) containing central
heating pipes the only place it can logically go is in the "middle" of
a wall, against the conduit. It can't go where the shower head on the
bath currently is because it would block the window. (Indeed, one
reason for the plan is so the shower isn't spraying down onto the
windowsill, because this causes water to collect on there, causing
mould and other problems e.g. leaks).

However, I've found that practically nowhere seems to sell three-sided
cubicles, except the *very* premium end of the market.

Does anyone know a place where 3-sided cubicles can be obtained for a
reasonable price, or if not have any other suggestions as to how I can
achieve a similar effect? I don't just want to put up a plasterboard
wall or similar because it would block the light from the window. I
have considered having half the window bricked up, but I like the
light I get from an almost-full-width window in what is quite a small
bathroom. The only other corner that would be available has the
toilet in it, and moving a toilet is not necessarily an easy venture,
as I understand it.

[1] Several people have said to me that'll reduce the value, but as I
don't intend to move for the foreseeable future, and I never have
baths, only showers, I can always put a bath back if it helps sale
later.

Neil
Build your own..see a glaziers about how to get glass cut, and door
hinges etc. Silicone teh joins after screwing together..fit seals to the
door..and off you go


I did and it was 1/4 the price of the stuff SWMBO was looking at in the
showrooms

"polygonum" wrote in message
news

Illness can catapult people from being happily shower-only to
bath-is-vital in no time at all.

I would never accept a shower-only house having experienced just that - a
partner who became unable to shower. Thank goodness we have a bath.

I think you will find the opposite to be more common.
there are a lot of elderly and infirmed that can't get into a bath (or more
likely out of) that can sit on a shower seat and have a shower.

I was thinking of putting in a steam cabinet, you can get a two seat one
that fits in about the same space as a bath.
They also double as showers.

On Thu, 22 Sep 2011 14:12:08 +0100, ARWadsworth
wrote:

polygonum wrote:
On Thu, 22 Sep 2011 12:49:38 +0100, Neil Williams
wrote:

On Sep 22, 1:20 pm, Allan wrote:

There was an article a couple of weeks ago in the Saturday Guardian
Money about switching bath for wetroom with readers
comments/feedback. Article
at:http://www.guardian.co.uk/money/blog...om-viable-alte...

It's an interesting one. I'm not a fan of wetrooms, but it's the
same principle I suppose.

One thing I found interesting was that one of the houses I looked at
while buying was being refurbished - and they went for a traditional
style standalone bath instead of a regular panelled plastic one. This
is
not only not a proper shower, but completely unsuitable for
fitting one unless you put in an all-round shower curtain and like
it sticking to you (ugh).

So is the demand *really* that much in favour of baths? I know you
need one if bringing up young children, but I find a good shower[1]
so much more pleasant and so much quicker so you can have one in the
morning before work every day.

I suppose I'm biased on one thing - being 6' 4" I don't fit a bath
very well, so if I did want one for me it'd have to be a long one.

[1] Not a crappy cheapo electric one. I have a combi boiler which
gives excellent flow for the shower - but if I didn't a pump would
have been well up the list.

Neil

Illness can catapult people from being happily shower-only to
bath-is-vital in no time at all.

It can also do the opposite.


Certainly it can.

--
Rod

On Sep 22, 9:27*am, Neil Williams wrote:
I'm looking at redoing my bathroom, removing the bath[1] and fitting a
decent-sized shower cubicle, and due to the position of the windows
and a large conduit (about 8in square, I think) containing central
heating pipes the only place it can logically go is in the "middle" of
a wall, against the conduit. *It can't go where the shower head on the
bath currently is because it would block the window. *(Indeed, one
reason for the plan is so the shower isn't spraying down onto the
windowsill, because this causes water to collect on there, causing
mould and other problems e.g. leaks).

Put something similar to the internal glazing widely used in Russia.
It's just a sliding window that fits flush to the inner wall. All you
would need is a suitable pane -fixed. Perspex would do.

On Thu, 22 Sep 2011 13:05:37 +0100, polygonum
wrote:


Illness can catapult people from being happily shower-only to
bath-is-vital in no time at all.

I would never accept a shower-only house having experienced just that - a
partner who became unable to shower. Thank goodness we have a bath.

Que ?

SWMBO has just had a hip replacement and found having a walk in shower
level with the bathroom (and no bath to act as an obstacle to have to
clamber over) an absolute boon.

Generally anybody who can sit in a bath can sit on a stool (made for
the purpose) in a shower. Her room in hospital had just a shower.

Derek G

On Thu, 22 Sep 2011 21:21:36 +0100 Derek Geldard wrote :
SWMBO has just had a hip replacement and found having a walk in shower
level with the bathroom (and no bath to act as an obstacle to have to
clamber over) an absolute boon.

Generally anybody who can sit in a bath can sit on a stool (made for
the purpose) in a shower. Her room in hospital had just a shower.

Yes, I had a bike accident two years ago and was on crutches for six
weeks. Walk in shower big enough to take a plastic chair was a godsend.

--
Tony Bryer, Greentram: 'Software to build on',
Melbourne, Australia www.greentram.com

On 22/09/2011 16:18, dennis@home wrote:


"polygonum" wrote in message
news

Illness can catapult people from being happily shower-only to
bath-is-vital in no time at all.

I would never accept a shower-only house having experienced just that
- a partner who became unable to shower. Thank goodness we have a bath.

I think you will find the opposite to be more common.
there are a lot of elderly and infirmed that can't get into a bath (or
more likely out of) that can sit on a shower seat and have a shower.

I was thinking of putting in a steam cabinet, you can get a two seat one
that fits in about the same space as a bath.
They also double as showers.

++

A few years ago, we put a shower in my Mum's house. At the time, she
said "What a waste of time/money". Moving on a few years, (& her having
reached the tender age of 89, and living on her own), she has begun to
struggle with getting in & out of the bath, and we got her a seat for
the shower and she loves it.

On 17/08/2013 21:50, wrote:

On Thursday, September 22, 2011 9:27:42 AM UTC+1, Neil Williams wrote:

I'm looking at redoing my bathroom, removing the bath[1] and fitting a

coram optima do 3sided and 4 sided cubicles

Do you not suppose he might have finished it now two years later?

--
Cheers,

John.

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On 18/08/2013 00:40, John Rumm wrote:
On 17/08/2013 21:50, wrote:

On Thursday, September 22, 2011 9:27:42 AM UTC+1, Neil Williams wrote:

I'm looking at redoing my bathroom, removing the bath[1] and fitting a

coram optima do 3sided and 4 sided cubicles

Do you not suppose he might have finished it now two years later?


Not if he's like me he wouldn't!

On 18/08/2013 14:42, newshound wrote:
On 18/08/2013 00:40, John Rumm wrote:
On 17/08/2013 21:50, wrote:

On Thursday, September 22, 2011 9:27:42 AM UTC+1, Neil Williams wrote:

I'm looking at redoing my bathroom, removing the bath[1] and fitting a

coram optima do 3sided and 4 sided cubicles

Do you not suppose he might have finished it now two years later?


Not if he's like me he wouldn't!

you are not alone ;-)

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Cheers,

John.

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