I heard of a case recently where a pikey electrocuted himself by hack sawing
through a live cable he was trying to steal for the copper.

I've spotted a niche market here which could make my fortune.

The plan is to buy a load of those £9.99 non contact volt sticks from
Maplins (the ones that light up near a live cable).

I'm going to re package them & sell them for £25 as "The Pikey Protector".

I already have the advertising tag line worked out; "Protect a Pikey for a
Pony".

The only problem is where to advertise them?

Can anyone suggest suitable magazines to reach my target market?


--
Dave - The Medway Handyman
www.medwayhandyman.co.uk
01634 717930
07850 597257

The only problem is where to advertise them?

"The only problem"? You are *that* confident your van and tools will
still be there when you turn around?

--
Robin

"The Medway Handyman" wrote in message
.uk...
I heard of a case recently where a pikey electrocuted himself by hack
sawing through a live cable he was trying to steal for the copper.

I've spotted a niche market here which could make my fortune.

The plan is to buy a load of those £9.99 non contact volt sticks from
Maplins (the ones that light up near a live cable).

I'm going to re package them & sell them for £25 as "The Pikey Protector".

I already have the advertising tag line worked out; "Protect a Pikey for a
Pony".

The only problem is where to advertise them?

Can anyone suggest suitable magazines to reach my target market?


Caravan Monthy?....lol

On 12 Jan, 12:10, "The Medway Handyman"
wrote:

Can anyone suggest suitable magazines to reach my target market?

I see a problem.
You're assuming that your target market can read.

If you could modify them so that, shortly after sale, they randomly
indicate live cables to be dead, you could then give them to Pikeys.
Many thousands of builders and plumbers would sponsor such a scheme.

In message , The
Medway Handyman writes
The only problem is where to advertise them?

Can anyone suggest suitable magazines to reach my target market?


Nowhere for preference, I see it as a speedy form of natural selection.
--
Clint Sharp

Could you keep your racial stereotypes to yourself MH and keep the subject on DIY, unless you believe that pikey's (you really mean romany gypsies, but feel that if you use another term it isn't racist) or perhaps you have never heard of any crimes ever being commited by anyone apart from a traveller. By the way I live in a house in a city where crime is committed by all sorts of people - even handy men.

On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 12:10:15 GMT, "The Medway Handyman"
wrote:


The only problem is where to advertise them?

Can anyone suggest suitable magazines to reach my target market?

Wherever, you're fall foul of the Human Rights people, using the word 'Pikey'.

That's now a far more heinous crime than nicking cable.

Andy

The Medway Handyman wrote:

Can anyone suggest suitable magazines to reach my target market?

Could you not engrave the ad into the lead on any roofs you are called
on to maintain?


--
Cheers,

John.

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On 12 Jan, 12:10, "The Medway Handyman"
wrote:
I heard of a case recently where a pikey electrocuted himself by hack sawing
through a live cable he was trying to steal for the copper.

I've spotted a niche market here which could make my fortune.

The plan is to buy a load of those £9.99 *non contact volt sticks from
Maplins (the ones that light up near a live cable).

I'm going to re package them & sell them for £25 as "The Pikey Protector".

I already have the advertising tag line worked out; "Protect a Pikey for a
Pony".

The only problem is where to advertise them?

Can anyone suggest suitable magazines to reach my target market?

--
Dave - The Medway Handymanwww.medwayhandyman.co.uk*
*

simply have some labels printed with the wording "Isolated - safe to
work as long as this notice is present" on one side. Print you advert
on the other, attach to a known live 11kV cable with the safe to work
notice outward and wait for trade to come rolling in.

"The Pikey Protector".

Ah - but I'll counter-market* the "Crackhead Carboniser".

This detects the tiny magnetic field dip associated with your gadget
being waved near the power cable, and temporarily reduces the voltage
to an undetectable level - until the earth leakage associated with
cable cutting is detected - at which point 25 KV is applied until the
source** of earth leakage is vaporised.

*When I say counter-market - it would smarter for us to go into
partnership to ensure full interoperability.

**And his shell suit. Although a smoking pair of trainers should
remain to indicate correct operation.

simply have some labels printed with the wording "Isolated - safe to
work as long as this notice is present" on one side. Print you advert
on the other, attach to a known live 11kV cable with the safe to work
notice outward and wait for trade to come rolling in.

Er - isn't this guaranteed to "kill" the trade?

OTOH - sell the labels directly directly to the copper thieves, and
tell them that so long as they attach the label first, they're
perfectly safe.

dtechy wrote:
The Medway Handyman;1799622 Wrote:
I heard of a case recently where a pikey electrocuted himself by hack
sawing
through a live cable he was trying to steal for the copper.

I've spotted a niche market here which could make my fortune.

The plan is to buy a load of those �9.99 non contact volt sticks from

Maplins (the ones that light up near a live cable).

I'm going to re package them & sell them for �25 as "The Pikey
Protector".

I already have the advertising tag line worked out; "Protect a Pikey
for a
Pony".

The only problem is where to advertise them?



Can anyone suggest suitable magazines to reach my target market?


--
Dave - The Medway Handyman
www.medwayhandyman.co.uk
01634 717930
07850 597257

Could you keep your racial stereotypes to yourself MH and keep the
subject on DIY, unless you believe that pikey's (you really mean romany
gypsies, but feel that if you use another term it isn't racist)

No.Romany Gypsies are fine. Its thieving pikey *******s we mean. Usuallt
pure bred english mongrel not a hint of furrin in em anywhere.

Its not a racial thing, its a lifestyle thing. People who live
parasitically on society..
or
perhaps you have never heard of any crimes ever being commited by
anyone apart from a traveller. By the way I live in a house in a city
where crime is committed by all sorts of people - even handy men.


Sure. But THIS sort of crime is done by Thieving Pikey *******s..

Could you keep your racial stereotypes to yourself MH and keep the
subject on DIY, unless you believe that pikey's (you really mean romany
gypsies, but feel that if you use another term it isn't racist) or
perhaps you have never heard of any crimes ever being commited by
anyone apart from a traveller. By the way I live in a house in a city
where crime is committed by all sorts of people - even handy men.




OK outlaws then?...
--
Tony Sayer

dtechy wrote:
The Medway Handyman;1799622 Wrote:
I heard of a case recently where a pikey electrocuted himself by hack
sawing
through a live cable he was trying to steal for the copper.

I've spotted a niche market here which could make my fortune.

The plan is to buy a load of those £9.99 non contact volt sticks
from

Maplins (the ones that light up near a live cable).

I'm going to re package them & sell them for £25 as "The Pikey
Protector".

I already have the advertising tag line worked out; "Protect a Pikey
for a
Pony".

The only problem is where to advertise them?



Can anyone suggest suitable magazines to reach my target market?


Could you keep your racial stereotypes to yourself MH and keep the
subject on DIY,

Errm. Thats why I headed the post OT. It means 'off topic'. Since you
appear to be explaining the group rules to me, I assumed you would know
that.

unless you believe that pikey's (you really mean
romany gypsies, but feel that if you use another term it isn't
racist)

No, I mean Pikey's. If you lived in the real world - instead of living on
PC Planet, you would know what I meant. And please don't play the race card
it's pathetic.

or perhaps you have never heard of any crimes ever being
commited by anyone apart from a traveller.

Indeed I have. But I find very few accountants, solicitors, bus drivers,
shop assistants, mechanics etc go around nicking lead off roofs & copper
cable.

By the way I live in a
house in a city where crime is committed by all sorts of people -
even handy men.

No pikeys round your way then?


--
Dave - The Medway Handyman
www.medwayhandyman.co.uk
01634 717930
07850 597257

In message , The
Medway Handyman writes
I heard of a case recently where a pikey electrocuted himself by hack sawing
through a live cable he was trying to steal for the copper.

I've spotted a niche market here which could make my fortune.

The plan is to buy a load of those £9.99 non contact volt sticks from
Maplins (the ones that light up near a live cable).

I'm going to re package them & sell them for £25 as "The Pikey Protector".

I already have the advertising tag line worked out; "Protect a Pikey for a
Pony".

The only problem is where to advertise them?

Can anyone suggest suitable magazines to reach my target market?


the "church roof times" ?


--
geoff

In message , The Natural
Philosopher writes
dtechy wrote:
The Medway Handyman;1799622 Wrote:
I heard of a case recently where a pikey electrocuted himself by
hack
sawing through a live cable he was trying to steal for the copper.

I've spotted a niche market here which could make my fortune.

The plan is to buy a load of those 0
Maplins (the ones that light up near a live cable).

I'm going to re package them & sell them for 0 Protector".

I already have the advertising tag line worked out; "Protect a Pikey
for a Pony".

The only problem is where to advertise them?



Can anyone suggest suitable magazines to reach my target market?


-- Dave - The Medway Handyman
www.medwayhandyman.co.uk
01634 717930
07850 597257
Could you keep your racial stereotypes to yourself MH and keep the
subject on DIY, unless you believe that pikey's (you really mean romany
gypsies, but feel that if you use another term it isn't racist)

No.Romany Gypsies are fine. Its thieving pikey *******s we mean.
Usuallt pure bred english mongrel not a hint of furrin in em anywhere.

Its not a racial thing, its a lifestyle thing. People who live
parasitically on society..
or
perhaps you have never heard of any crimes ever being commited by
anyone apart from a traveller. By the way I live in a house in a city
where crime is committed by all sorts of people - even handy men.


Sure. But THIS sort of crime is done by Thieving Pikey *******s..


Oh dear - agreeing with NP, whatever next ...
--
geoff

In message , dtechy
writes

The Medway Handyman;1799622 Wrote:
I heard of a case recently where a pikey electrocuted himself by hack
sawing
through a live cable he was trying to steal for the copper.

I've spotted a niche market here which could make my fortune.

The plan is to buy a load of those £9.99 non contact volt sticks from

Maplins (the ones that light up near a live cable).

I'm going to re package them & sell them for £25 as "The Pikey
Protector".

I already have the advertising tag line worked out; "Protect a Pikey
for a
Pony".

The only problem is where to advertise them?



Can anyone suggest suitable magazines to reach my target market?


--
Dave - The Medway Handyman
www.medwayhandyman.co.uk
01634 717930
07850 597257

Could you keep your racial stereotypes to yourself MH and keep the
subject on DIY, unless you believe that pikey's (you really mean romany
gypsies, but feel that if you use another term it isn't racist) or
perhaps you have never heard of any crimes ever being commited by
anyone apart from a traveller. By the way I live in a house in a city
where crime is committed by all sorts of people - even handy men.


Oh, do **** off


--
geoff

In message
,
" writes

simply have some labels printed with the wording "Isolated - safe to
work as long as this notice is present" on one side. Print you advert
on the other, attach to a known live 11kV cable with the safe to work
notice outward and wait for trade to come rolling in.

Er - isn't this guaranteed to "kill" the trade?

Who cares ?

You 're hardly likely to sell to them more than once, are you ?

--
geoff

The Medway Handyman wrote:

The plan is to buy a load of those �9.99 non contact volt sticks from
Maplins (the ones that light up near a live cable).

I'm going to re package them & sell them for �25 as "The Pikey Protector".

Won't work on armoured or concentric cables, or old lead sheathed, or
anything they're likely to go for, shirley...

.... I'm out.

--
Andy

On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 15:30:01 +0000, dtechy wrote:

Could you keep your racial stereotypes to yourself MH and keep the
subject on DIY, unless you believe that pikey's (you really mean romany
gypsies, but feel that if you use another term it isn't racist) or
perhaps you have never heard of any crimes ever being commited by
anyone apart from a traveller. By the way I live in a house in a city
where crime is committed by all sorts of people - even handy men.

I don't give a toss what you call them but they are a PITA.

Cost Councils i.e. tax payers, a small fortune to clear up after them and in
mostly futile attempts to stop them invading public spaces, which they then foul
up. Farmers too are firced to blight the countryside with any means at hand to
stop these freeloaders, who no doubt when ill, are first in line at A&E and when
their roaving days are over, expect their kids to be educated at facitilies
provided by others or live in public provided housing. Not to mention their
crappy vans, which I simply do not believe would pass the MOT test that the
lawabiding are forced to adhere to.

There's nothing racist about it.

I don't mind them opting our if they can find someone to provide a suitable
field for free buit don't then expect to take advantage of the facilities
provided by the hard work of other. If you want to live in the stoneage, then
that's your choice but you can't expect to have it both way and be welcomed.

Andy

Andy Cap wrote:
On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 15:30:01 +0000, dtechy
wrote:

Could you keep your racial stereotypes to yourself MH and keep the
subject on DIY, unless you believe that pikey's (you really mean
romany gypsies, but feel that if you use another term it isn't
racist) or perhaps you have never heard of any crimes ever being
commited by anyone apart from a traveller. By the way I live in a
house in a city where crime is committed by all sorts of people -
even handy men.

I don't give a toss what you call them but they are a PITA.

Cost Councils i.e. tax payers, a small fortune to clear up after them
and in mostly futile attempts to stop them invading public spaces,
which they then foul up.

Couple of years ago they invaded the car park serving our small town centre.
Medway Council are very hot on parking & I've had a few run ins with them -
no quarter is given.

Parking Services number was on the tarif board, so I rang them. Let them
know that Transits & caravans were all illegally parked, no pay & display
tickets, in disabled bays etc.

The guy said he would call the Councils 'traveller liason officer'. I asked
him to send a few traffic wardens down to issue tickets. Couldn't do that,
they might be intimidated.

I asked if I could park for free if I intimidated the wardens, but
apparently not.

We now have a height barrier. Which means I can't get my van in, so I have
to park half a mile away when I want to pay money into the bank.

My council tax pays for these height barriers, cleaning up the car park, the
wages of the 'liason officer' and now I can't use the piggin car park that I
pay for either.

And 'dtechy' wonders why I don't like Pikeys!


--
Dave - The Medway Handyman
www.medwayhandyman.co.uk
01634 717930
07850 597257

Andy Cap wrote:
On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 15:30:01 +0000, dtechy wrote:

Could you keep your racial stereotypes to yourself MH and keep the
subject on DIY, unless you believe that pikey's (you really mean romany
gypsies, but feel that if you use another term it isn't racist) or
perhaps you have never heard of any crimes ever being commited by
anyone apart from a traveller. By the way I live in a house in a city
where crime is committed by all sorts of people - even handy men.

I don't give a toss what you call them but they are a PITA.

Cost Councils i.e. tax payers, a small fortune to clear up after them and in
mostly futile attempts to stop them invading public spaces, which they then foul
up. Farmers too are firced to blight the countryside with any means at hand to
stop these freeloaders, who no doubt when ill, are first in line at A&E and when
their roaving days are over, expect their kids to be educated at facitilies
provided by others or live in public provided housing. Not to mention their
crappy vans, which I simply do not believe would pass the MOT test that the
lawabiding are forced to adhere to.

There's nothing racist about it.

I don't mind them opting our if they can find someone to provide a suitable
field for free buit don't then expect to take advantage of the facilities
provided by the hard work of other. If you want to live in the stoneage, then
that's your choice but you can't expect to have it both way and be welcomed.

Andy



Racist: noun 1 the belief that there are characteristics, abilities, or
qualities specific to each race. 2 discrimination against or antagonism
towards other races. (OED)

You *are* racist; get over it. Or, preferably, have a read of 'Bury Me
Standing: Gypsies and Their Journey' by Isabel Fonseca, and you might
rethink.

Rob

How many brain cells did you kill with that impressive response Geoff, are you a pikey by any chance?

Rob wrote:
Andy Cap wrote:
On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 15:30:01 +0000, dtechy
wrote:
Could you keep your racial stereotypes to yourself MH and keep the
subject on DIY, unless you believe that pikey's (you really mean
romany gypsies, but feel that if you use another term it isn't
racist) or perhaps you have never heard of any crimes ever being
commited by anyone apart from a traveller. By the way I live in a
house in a city where crime is committed by all sorts of people -
even handy men.

I don't give a toss what you call them but they are a PITA.

Cost Councils i.e. tax payers, a small fortune to clear up after
them and in mostly futile attempts to stop them invading public
spaces, which they then foul up. Farmers too are firced to blight
the countryside with any means at hand to stop these freeloaders,
who no doubt when ill, are first in line at A&E and when their
roaving days are over, expect their kids to be educated at
facitilies provided by others or live in public provided housing.
Not to mention their crappy vans, which I simply do not believe
would pass the MOT test that the lawabiding are forced to adhere to.
There's nothing racist about it.

I don't mind them opting our if they can find someone to provide a
suitable field for free buit don't then expect to take advantage of
the facilities provided by the hard work of other. If you want to
live in the stoneage, then that's your choice but you can't expect
to have it both way and be welcomed. Andy



Racist: noun 1 the belief that there are characteristics, abilities,
or qualities specific to each race. 2 discrimination against or
antagonism towards other races. (OED)

You *are* racist; get over it. Or, preferably, have a read of 'Bury Me
Standing: Gypsies and Their Journey' by Isabel Fonseca, and you might
rethink.

I think you are confusing Pikeys & Gypsies Rob. True Gypsies (of which
there are few) don't cause the trouble & stress to locals that Pikeys do.
Two entirely different things.


--
Dave - The Medway Handyman
www.medwayhandyman.co.uk
01634 717930
07850 597257

tony sayer wrote:
Could you keep your racial stereotypes to yourself MH and keep the
subject on DIY, unless you believe that pikey's (you really mean romany
gypsies, but feel that if you use another term it isn't racist) or
perhaps you have never heard of any crimes ever being commited by
anyone apart from a traveller. By the way I live in a house in a city
where crime is committed by all sorts of people - even handy men.




OK outlaws then?...

Yup. I think Our Tone has hit the pikey on the head.


People who, irrespective of racial, ethnic, religious, or any other
origin, choose (or find they have no option but) to live more or less
outside the laws of what constitutes consensus society.

Who don't pay income or council tax, don't tax, insure or MOT their
vehicles half the time, probably run them on central heating oil stolen
from tanks, make what little money they do by stealing what is easy to
steal and selling it on, and whose idea of refuse disposal is to simply
leave it where it is, and move on.

But who probably DO use free hospital dental and medical serveices, and
occasionally free education. Who mots certainly use free roads, water
and probabaly someone else's electricity.

Hunter Gatherers in an urban society.

Racist: noun 1 the belief that there are characteristics, abilities, or
qualities specific to each race. 2 discrimination against or antagonism
towards other races. (OED)


I don't think 'pikey' is a race. At least I don't recall it on the list of
racial/ethnic groups in the last census.

Pikey means 'of the road', turnpike and all that. i.e. traveller.

mark

Andy Cap wrote:
If you want to live in the stoneage, then
that's your choice but you can't expect to have it both way and be welcomed.


Aye, that's the rub.
It's the 'expecting it both ways' bit that incenses.

Its one thing to wander along a wilderness seashore, picking up crabs,
rubbing two sticks together to light a fire and eating them, but rather
a different thing to wander down the high street, gathering lead and
copper out of working installations, and sell it to buy fish and chips.

The answer is obvious. Wander by night into a Pikey camp and nick
everything you can. Again and again.

If the simple act of possession is what someone lives by, then so mote
it be. Relieve them if their possessions.

Such lessons I have always found to be the most instructive.

I have done it myself to someone with this sort of attitude.. 'where did
you learn that trick?' 'From you....'




Andy

Rob wrote:
Andy Cap wrote:
On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 15:30:01 +0000, dtechy
wrote:

Could you keep your racial stereotypes to yourself MH and keep the
subject on DIY, unless you believe that pikey's (you really mean romany
gypsies, but feel that if you use another term it isn't racist) or
perhaps you have never heard of any crimes ever being commited by
anyone apart from a traveller. By the way I live in a house in a city
where crime is committed by all sorts of people - even handy men.

I don't give a toss what you call them but they are a PITA.

Cost Councils i.e. tax payers, a small fortune to clear up after them
and in
mostly futile attempts to stop them invading public spaces, which they
then foul
up. Farmers too are firced to blight the countryside with any means at
hand to
stop these freeloaders, who no doubt when ill, are first in line at
A&E and when
their roaving days are over, expect their kids to be educated at
facitilies
provided by others or live in public provided housing. Not to mention
their
crappy vans, which I simply do not believe would pass the MOT test
that the
lawabiding are forced to adhere to.
There's nothing racist about it.
I don't mind them opting our if they can find someone to provide a
suitable
field for free buit don't then expect to take advantage of the facilities
provided by the hard work of other. If you want to live in the
stoneage, then
that's your choice but you can't expect to have it both way and be
welcomed.

Andy



Racist: noun 1 the belief that there are characteristics, abilities, or
qualities specific to each race. 2 discrimination against or antagonism
towards other races. (OED)

You *are* racist; get over it. Or, preferably, have a read of 'Bury Me
Standing: Gypsies and Their Journey' by Isabel Fonseca, and you might
rethink.

Don't be daft. These people aren't gyspies.

They MIGHT once have been Irish, a hundred years ago.

There is a world of difference between genuine travellers and thieving
pikey *******s..


I haven't seem genuine gypsies in YEARS. The very few travellers I know,
have bought/rented houses and got out of it. They don't want to be
associated with 'thieving pikey *******s' *because* they are not..





Rob

The Medway Handyman wrote:
Rob wrote:
Andy Cap wrote:
On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 15:30:01 +0000, dtechy
wrote:
Could you keep your racial stereotypes to yourself MH and keep the
subject on DIY, unless you believe that pikey's (you really mean
romany gypsies, but feel that if you use another term it isn't
racist) or perhaps you have never heard of any crimes ever being
commited by anyone apart from a traveller. By the way I live in a
house in a city where crime is committed by all sorts of people -
even handy men.
I don't give a toss what you call them but they are a PITA.

Cost Councils i.e. tax payers, a small fortune to clear up after
them and in mostly futile attempts to stop them invading public
spaces, which they then foul up. Farmers too are firced to blight
the countryside with any means at hand to stop these freeloaders,
who no doubt when ill, are first in line at A&E and when their
roaving days are over, expect their kids to be educated at
facitilies provided by others or live in public provided housing.
Not to mention their crappy vans, which I simply do not believe
would pass the MOT test that the lawabiding are forced to adhere to.
There's nothing racist about it.

I don't mind them opting our if they can find someone to provide a
suitable field for free buit don't then expect to take advantage of
the facilities provided by the hard work of other. If you want to
live in the stoneage, then that's your choice but you can't expect
to have it both way and be welcomed. Andy


Racist: noun 1 the belief that there are characteristics, abilities,
or qualities specific to each race. 2 discrimination against or
antagonism towards other races. (OED)

You *are* racist; get over it. Or, preferably, have a read of 'Bury Me
Standing: Gypsies and Their Journey' by Isabel Fonseca, and you might
rethink.

I think you are confusing Pikeys & Gypsies Rob. True Gypsies (of which
there are few) don't cause the trouble & stress to locals that Pikeys do.
Two entirely different things.



AIUI 'pikey' can mean two groups: the underclass; and/or
travellers/gypsies (Roma etc - it's complicated, hence the Franseca
reference).

If Andy was referring to the underclass, then I'd relax the racist
reference and substitute 'limited'. I suspect you are referring to a
local and particular group of people.

However, the reference to vans, roaving (meaning roaming perhaps) and
fields led me to think he was referring to the second group in a general
(and uninformed) sense - hence my remarks.

Rob

Huge wrote:
On 2008-01-13, Rob wrote:

You *are* racist; get over it. Or, preferably, have a read of 'Bury Me
Standing: Gypsies and Their Journey' by Isabel Fonseca, and you might
rethink.

So it's OK to leave piles of excrement, reeking garbage & rusting scrap in
public places if you happen to be a bit brown?


What on earth are you talking about?

*plonk*


Something you're afraid of by any chance?

Rob

In article , geoff
scribeth thus
In message , The Natural
Philosopher writes
dtechy wrote:
The Medway Handyman;1799622 Wrote:
I heard of a case recently where a pikey electrocuted himself by
hack
sawing through a live cable he was trying to steal for the copper.

I've spotted a niche market here which could make my fortune.

The plan is to buy a load of those 0
Maplins (the ones that light up near a live cable).

I'm going to re package them & sell them for 0 Protector".

I already have the advertising tag line worked out; "Protect a Pikey
for a Pony".

The only problem is where to advertise them?



Can anyone suggest suitable magazines to reach my target market?


-- Dave - The Medway Handyman
www.medwayhandyman.co.uk
01634 717930
07850 597257
Could you keep your racial stereotypes to yourself MH and keep the
subject on DIY, unless you believe that pikey's (you really mean romany
gypsies, but feel that if you use another term it isn't racist)

No.Romany Gypsies are fine. Its thieving pikey *******s we mean.
Usuallt pure bred english mongrel not a hint of furrin in em anywhere.

Its not a racial thing, its a lifestyle thing. People who live
parasitically on society..
or
perhaps you have never heard of any crimes ever being commited by
anyone apart from a traveller. By the way I live in a house in a city
where crime is committed by all sorts of people - even handy men.


Sure. But THIS sort of crime is done by Thieving Pikey *******s..


Oh dear - agreeing with NP, whatever next ...

NP has often got a lot of good points.. And on this one I'm in total
agreement having suffered at the hands of these thieving Pikey Outlaw
scum...
--
Tony Sayer

In article , Rob patchoulianre
scribeth thus
Huge wrote:
On 2008-01-13, Rob wrote:

You *are* racist; get over it. Or, preferably, have a read of 'Bury Me
Standing: Gypsies and Their Journey' by Isabel Fonseca, and you might
rethink.

So it's OK to leave piles of excrement, reeking garbage & rusting scrap in
public places if you happen to be a bit brown?


What on earth are you talking about?

*plonk*


Something you're afraid of by any chance?

Rob


Try living out in the Fens for a while and I think you'll be left in no
doubt at all that there is a lawless outlaw component of the populace...
--
Tony Sayer

tony sayer wrote:
In article , Rob patchoulianre
scribeth thus
Huge wrote:
On 2008-01-13, Rob wrote:

You *are* racist; get over it. Or, preferably, have a read of 'Bury Me
Standing: Gypsies and Their Journey' by Isabel Fonseca, and you might
rethink.
So it's OK to leave piles of excrement, reeking garbage & rusting scrap in
public places if you happen to be a bit brown?

What on earth are you talking about?

*plonk*

Something you're afraid of by any chance?

Rob


Try living out in the Fens for a while and I think you'll be left in no
doubt at all that there is a lawless outlaw component of the populace...

None of whom have any identifiable ethnic background to distinguish them
from other people.

Mark wrote:
Racist: noun 1 the belief that there are characteristics, abilities, or
qualities specific to each race. 2 discrimination against or antagonism
towards other races. (OED)


I don't think 'pikey' is a race. At least I don't recall it on the list of
racial/ethnic groups in the last census.

Pikey means 'of the road', turnpike and all that. i.e. traveller.


Precisely.

mark

On Sun, 13 Jan 2008 12:42:34 +0000, tony sayer wrote:


NP has often got a lot of good points.. And on this one I'm in total
agreement having suffered at the hands of these thieving Pikey Outlaw
scum...

Sometimes the Pikeys come off worst...

http://www.darwinawards.com/darwin/darwin2007-09.html

tony sayer wrote:
In article , geoff
scribeth thus
In message , The Natural
Philosopher writes
dtechy wrote:
The Medway Handyman;1799622 Wrote:
I heard of a case recently where a pikey electrocuted himself by
hack
sawing through a live cable he was trying to steal for the copper.

I've spotted a niche market here which could make my fortune.

The plan is to buy a load of those 0
Maplins (the ones that light up near a live cable).

I'm going to re package them & sell them for 0 Protector".

I already have the advertising tag line worked out; "Protect a Pikey
for a Pony".

The only problem is where to advertise them?



Can anyone suggest suitable magazines to reach my target market?


-- Dave - The Medway Handyman
www.medwayhandyman.co.uk
01634 717930
07850 597257
Could you keep your racial stereotypes to yourself MH and keep the
subject on DIY, unless you believe that pikey's (you really mean romany
gypsies, but feel that if you use another term it isn't racist)
No.Romany Gypsies are fine. Its thieving pikey *******s we mean.
Usuallt pure bred english mongrel not a hint of furrin in em anywhere.

Its not a racial thing, its a lifestyle thing. People who live
parasitically on society..
or
perhaps you have never heard of any crimes ever being commited by
anyone apart from a traveller. By the way I live in a house in a city
where crime is committed by all sorts of people - even handy men.

Sure. But THIS sort of crime is done by Thieving Pikey *******s..

Oh dear - agreeing with NP, whatever next ...

NP has often got a lot of good points.. And on this one I'm in total
agreement having suffered at the hands of these thieving Pikey Outlaw
scum...

If they were genuine throwbacks to an earlier time, I'd say fine: deal
with them on their own terms, Go in with assegais and shields and drive
them off your tribal territory.

But they are wise to that and invoke as much of the law and liberal
thinking as suits them, and disregard that which doesn't.

What the PC liberals don't understand, is that other people are not like
them, do not have the same guilty consciences or the same trembling
sensitivity to other peoples' feelings.

They give everybody every incentive to get away with almost everything,
and then wonder why, when they finally cross a line that is at best
arbitrary, we end up with prisons full to overflowing.

I am sure every thieving pikey ******* has a tale to tell of heart
rending deprivation, moral agony and insult and the like. So have most
people, if they choose to represent themselves in those terms. The
simple fact of it is that irrespective of where you come from or what
you have been through, if you want to join the club, you have to obey
the club rules, and if you don't want to join the club, you don't get
the club privileges.

If you want to live in a motor caravan, it has to conform to the
regukatins of motir vehicles when on the road, or be permanently parked
off rod,.

If it is to be parked, it has to comply with bye-laws. Or be on private
land, that is designated with planning permission for that purpose.

If you park on common land, you do not light fires or leave bags of
rubbish everywhere.

I wouldn't mind in te slightest if the odd traveller parked up on a bit
of scarp land for a few days, in a street legal machine, did whatever
work they could find, took their rubbish to the tip, and moved on
leaving it clean and tidy.

Or properly provisioned campsites with rental paid and council taxes
imposed on the site to deal with provision of basic facilities..

But people who come in tens, take over a section of public land,
depriving others of its use, pay nothing to anyone and leave it in a
total mess of waste, and create a local rime wave?

I can't BLAME the pikeys. They are allowed to get away with it,so they
do. Its like certain peoples' kids that I know. Their parents dutifully
tidy their rooms, prepare their food, wash their clothes, and hand out
money to them irrespective of whether the kids do anything in return
whatsoever, and then wonder why their kids are rude,opinionated, total
sluts, and appear to act as if the world owes them a living for nothing
in return.

They have been brought up with *precisely* that ethos.

One of my younger relatives was a fairly typical specimen. I sdaid 'I am
going to Silverstone for te Grand Prix practice on Friday: If you want
to come, your job is to spray off 20 square yards of bramble with
roundup, hack back the underfgrowth and be up at 8.am. when I will be
leaving'

The kid,who normally appeared about 12a.m, bleary, and seldom did
anything, dutifully and enthusiastically cleared the brambles, and was
ready to go when I stumbled downstairs..

Linking effort and rewards, as well as crime and punishment, is what the
Liberal PC world of Nu Laber simply fails to understand.

The whole root of Marxist thinking 'to each according to his needs, and
from each according to his abilities' is complete **********.

It completely incentivises everyone to be as lazy and useless as
possible, and gives no incentive whatsoever to develop useful skills and
abilities. The better you are the more gets taken away. The more useless
you are, the more you get given. This specious crap was written by a man
who could barely tie his own shoelaces. Entirely so that idiots like him
wouldn't get trampled underfoot.

Marxism is self defeating ultimately, its just the pain and ruin of a
society that everyone has to go through before they realize this, that
is the problem.

Russia today might as well have stayed under the Tsars. There is still
an ultra rich ruling elite, and everyone else works for them.

You get what you wish for. ASBOS and thieving pikey *******s are
precisely the effect a policy of ideological idiocy (==Nu Soschlim)
*encourages*.

Until Nu Laber reslizes that the way to get everyone to 'develop their
full potential', is to make it *worth their while*, prattling on about
it will have zero effect.

If passing excellent and bloody difficult exams, made it possible to go
to a university of class, to study difficult subjects with NO implied
debt thereafter, you would have people queueing up to take them. Not
complaining about 'how hard they are'

If, as it should be,people had to wait YEARS to establish a record of
savings and fiscal prudence, before they were even allowed an overdraft,
let alone a mortgage, house prices would be a lot more 'affordable'.

If the council. instead of standing idly bu, offered the pikeys a
thousand quid to clean up all the mess in their camps, and in fact every
other camp, and take it to the tip, your town would be sparklingly clean.

If in fact, you got paid £2.50 =- say - a bag for rubbish collected and
placed at the council tip, you probably wouldn't need council refuse
collectors at all, and it would work out cheaper in the longer term.

On Sun, 13 Jan 2008 11:30:42 +0000, Rob wrote:


Racist: noun 1 the belief that there are characteristics, abilities, or
qualities specific to each race. 2 discrimination against or antagonism
towards other races. (OED)

You *are* racist; get over it. Or, preferably, have a read of 'Bury Me
Standing: Gypsies and Their Journey' by Isabel Fonseca, and you might
rethink.

Rob

Reading the book clearly did you no good, IF you noticed, I did not criticise a
group but BEHAVIOUR.

It's beyond me why you're prepared to pay for other people's abuse of the system
but I guess it's your choice if you're stupid enough.

Andy

In article ,
PCPaul writes:

http://www.darwinawards.com/darwin/darwin2007-09.html

There was one somewhere up north just recently.
Police found substations had been forced open and copper stolen.
They went round them all to get them secured against children, etc.
They found the theif in one, fried to a crisp as he was hacksawing
through a live cable.

--
Andrew Gabriel
[email address is not usable -- followup in the newsgroup]

In message , dtechy
writes

geoff;1800099 Wrote:
In message , dtechy
writes-

The Medway Handyman;1799622 Wrote:-
I heard of a case recently where a pikey electrocuted himself by hack
sawing
through a live cable he was trying to steal for the copper.

I've spotted a niche market here which could make my fortune.

The plan is to buy a load of those £9.99 non contact volt sticks
from-
-
Maplins (the ones that light up near a live cable).

I'm going to re package them & sell them for £25 as "The Pikey-
Protector".-

I already have the advertising tag line worked out; "Protect a Pikey-
for a-
Pony".

The only problem is where to advertise them?



Can anyone suggest suitable magazines to reach my target market?


--
Dave - The Medway Handyman
www.medwayhandyman.co.uk
01634 717930
07850 597257-

Could you keep your racial stereotypes to yourself MH and keep the
subject on DIY, unless you believe that pikey's (you really mean
romany
gypsies, but feel that if you use another term it isn't racist) or
perhaps you have never heard of any crimes ever being commited by
anyone apart from a traveller. By the way I live in a house in a city
where crime is committed by all sorts of people - even handy men.-


Oh, do **** off


--
geoff

How many brain cells did you kill with that impressive response Geoff,
are you a pikey by any chance?


Oh do **** off

****


happier ?


--
geoff

On 13 Jan, 12:08, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
tony sayer wrote:
Could you keep your racial stereotypes to yourself MH and keep the
SNIP
People who, irrespective of racial, ethnic, religious, or any other
origin, choose (or find they have no option but) to live more or less
outside the laws of what constitutes consensus society.

Who don't pay income or council tax, don't tax, insure or MOT their
vehicles half the time, probably run them on central heating oil stolen
from tanks,

SNIP

Puts me in mind of when a local farmer kept losing petrol from a five
gallon drum he kept in a shed, plod couldn't spare resources to
maintain a watch. He filled the drum to an inch from the top with
water and then topped up with petrol.
A couple of days later a thieving ******* was at the garage having his
petrol tank drained and the pump and carb flushed, at which point plod
got involved.