On 3/26/2021 9:55 AM, rbowman wrote:
On 03/26/2021 03:51 AM, wrote:
On Thursday, March 25, 2021 at 11:15:23 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Thu, 25 Mar 2021 12:46:18 -0700 (PDT), "
wrote:

On Thursday, March 25, 2021 at 3:40:22 PM UTC-4, wrote:

Reagan may have been the last president I supported most of the time
but he screwed up a lot too. Where is Eisenhower when we need him?

In Heaven, pursuing dangerously liberal ideas, like the interstate
highway
system, desegregation, and Earl Warren.

Cindy Hamilton
The difference was when Eisenhower proposed the Interstate Highway
system he put into place a user fee (gasoline tax) to pay for it.
Since then some democrats have seen fit to raid that tax base to build
railroads to nowhere and subsidize public transportation systems that
paid their own way, even making a modest profit in his time.
Those are also the places with crumbling roads and falling down
bridges. Imagine that.

It's always easier to raise money for sexy projects like new freeways
or bridges than to raise money for boring stuff like maintenance.

Cindy Hamilton


When the New York State Thruway was being constructed, it was only going
to be a toll road until the construction costs were paid off. Yeah, sure.


I worked a couple of summers as a toll collector on the Delaware
Memorial bridge. They actually dropped the toll from 75 cents to 50
cents because the bond was being paid off. Now they have a twin bridge
and one way toll is $5 matching bridges in PA. You pay one way and go
free coming back. Before they made me a toll collector I worked summers
on the ground crew and there were a lot of maintenance costs. I recall
a rigger on the original construction crew that on Friday afternoon
would have a half pint of whiskey for lunch then climb the towers with
the biggest wrench I had ever seen to tighten bolts. We also lost a
couple of painters one summer when I was there who fell when scaffolding
failed.

Speaking of the Autobahn, I was only on it once on a bus tour in Europe
and it was so crowded you'd be lucky to go 40 mph.

Frank "frank writes:
On 3/26/2021 9:55 AM, rbowman wrote:


Speaking of the Autobahn, I was only on it once on a bus tour in Europe
and it was so crowded you'd be lucky to go 40 mph.

You cannot draw any conclusions from a single visit on a single highway.

I drove through Nashville in the early 1980s on the freeway and it was
so crowded you'd be lucky to go 40mph.

On 3/26/2021 11:30 AM, Scott Lurndal wrote:
Frank "frank writes:
On 3/26/2021 9:55 AM, rbowman wrote:


Speaking of the Autobahn, I was only on it once on a bus tour in Europe
and it was so crowded you'd be lucky to go 40 mph.

You cannot draw any conclusions from a single visit on a single highway.

I drove through Nashville in the early 1980s on the freeway and it was
so crowded you'd be lucky to go 40mph.


Of course. And, I also drove in Nashville on the freeway during rush
hour and it was crowded.

I heard a story of someone that went to Germany and needed to get to a
meeting. The host said, good news and bad news. Bad news is that it is
100 miles away and we only have one hour. Good news is that we will
make it. they did.

When we were on the Autobahn it was summer and everyone goes on vacation
and drives south in the direction we were going.

On Fri, 26 Mar 2021 02:51:42 -0700 (PDT), "
wrote:

On Thursday, March 25, 2021 at 11:15:23 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Thu, 25 Mar 2021 12:46:18 -0700 (PDT), "
wrote:

On Thursday, March 25, 2021 at 3:40:22 PM UTC-4, wrote:

Reagan may have been the last president I supported most of the time
but he screwed up a lot too. Where is Eisenhower when we need him?

In Heaven, pursuing dangerously liberal ideas, like the interstate highway
system, desegregation, and Earl Warren.

Cindy Hamilton
The difference was when Eisenhower proposed the Interstate Highway
system he put into place a user fee (gasoline tax) to pay for it.
Since then some democrats have seen fit to raid that tax base to build
railroads to nowhere and subsidize public transportation systems that
paid their own way, even making a modest profit in his time.
Those are also the places with crumbling roads and falling down
bridges. Imagine that.

It's always easier to raise money for sexy projects like new freeways
or bridges than to raise money for boring stuff like maintenance.

Cindy Hamilton

They had the money, they just put it into public transit instead of
roads. Public transit should charge fares that reflect the real cost,
not steal money from other programs.
Unfortunately those people are not willing to pay that. They always
want someone else to pay.
When I was going to school "DC Transit" was a private company that
actually made money. Now the DC Metro system is a black hole for
federal tax money. You are paying taxes in Michigan so people in DC
can ride a subsidized train or bus.
It is similar to Amtrak.
You can buy a ticket on the train from DC to Orlando for $135. The
actual cost of that trip is closer to $400. It would be cheaper to
just give them an airplane ticket.

On Fri, 26 Mar 2021 07:47:54 -0600, rbowman
wrote:

On 03/25/2021 09:45 PM, %% wrote:


"rbowman" wrote in message
...
On 03/25/2021 01:46 PM, wrote:
On Thursday, March 25, 2021 at 3:40:22 PM UTC-4, wrote:

Reagan may have been the last president I supported most of the time
but he screwed up a lot too. Where is Eisenhower when we need him?

In Heaven, pursuing dangerously liberal ideas, like the interstate
highway
system, desegregation, and Earl Warren.

He did remark before stepping on the rainbow that Warren was the
biggest mistake in his career. That interstate highway thing was a
little something he picked up from the National Socialists when he was
vacationing in Germany.

Nope, he realised the problem in the USA well before that.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inters...ystem#Planning

"Eisenhower also gained an appreciation of the Reichsautobahn system,
the first "national" implementation of modern Germany's Autobahn
network, as a necessary component of a national defense system while he
was serving as Supreme Commander of Allied Forces in Europe during World
War II"

My family and I drove from New York State to Seattle in 1952, for the
most part on the Lincoln Highway. It was a little better than
Eisenhower's experience but not much. Coming back on 66 was a bit
different.

We used to drive to Florida on 301, 15 and 17. It took 2 1/2 days.
(20+ hours on the road) I could do it in 15 hours on I-95.

On Fri, 26 Mar 2021 07:47:54 -0600, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:


"Eisenhower also gained an appreciation of the Reichsautobahn system,

WTF has any of this **** got to do with a ng like ahr, senile gossip? tsk

On Fri, 26 Mar 2021 10:39:11 -0400, Frank "frank wrote:

On 3/26/2021 9:55 AM, rbowman wrote:
On 03/26/2021 03:51 AM, wrote:
On Thursday, March 25, 2021 at 11:15:23 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Thu, 25 Mar 2021 12:46:18 -0700 (PDT), "
wrote:

On Thursday, March 25, 2021 at 3:40:22 PM UTC-4, wrote:

Reagan may have been the last president I supported most of the time
but he screwed up a lot too. Where is Eisenhower when we need him?

In Heaven, pursuing dangerously liberal ideas, like the interstate
highway
system, desegregation, and Earl Warren.

Cindy Hamilton
The difference was when Eisenhower proposed the Interstate Highway
system he put into place a user fee (gasoline tax) to pay for it.
Since then some democrats have seen fit to raid that tax base to build
railroads to nowhere and subsidize public transportation systems that
paid their own way, even making a modest profit in his time.
Those are also the places with crumbling roads and falling down
bridges. Imagine that.

It's always easier to raise money for sexy projects like new freeways
or bridges than to raise money for boring stuff like maintenance.

Cindy Hamilton


When the New York State Thruway was being constructed, it was only going
to be a toll road until the construction costs were paid off. Yeah, sure.


I worked a couple of summers as a toll collector on the Delaware
Memorial bridge. They actually dropped the toll from 75 cents to 50
cents because the bond was being paid off. Now they have a twin bridge
and one way toll is $5 matching bridges in PA. You pay one way and go
free coming back. Before they made me a toll collector I worked summers
on the ground crew and there were a lot of maintenance costs. I recall
a rigger on the original construction crew that on Friday afternoon
would have a half pint of whiskey for lunch then climb the towers with
the biggest wrench I had ever seen to tighten bolts. We also lost a
couple of painters one summer when I was there who fell when scaffolding
failed.

Speaking of the Autobahn, I was only on it once on a bus tour in Europe
and it was so crowded you'd be lucky to go 40 mph.

People don't think about it but tolls are big business. They had some
scammers on the east coast who hijacked one "Express Lane" on the
Florida turnpike over on the Miami coast and they stole an estimated
$100,000 before they got caught ... in quarters.
It went on for years tho.
They left the gate up and you just threw your quarter in the bin as
you went through. Most did pay and it was a lot faster so more people
used it. The chute just went into a drywall bucket inside. Most of the
crew, including the supervisors were in on it and it took years to
catch them. The toll authority never missed the money. It was a
whistle blower who wasn't happy with his take.
This never made the paper. I heard it from the engineer from DOT when
we were building the MM99 toll plaza. The people got fired and had to
pay back some money but nothing near what they stole. Nobody was
prosecuted as far as I know. They did put cameras in every booth after
that.

On Fri, 26 Mar 2021 15:30:47 GMT, (Scott Lurndal)
wrote:

Frank "frank writes:
On 3/26/2021 9:55 AM, rbowman wrote:


Speaking of the Autobahn, I was only on it once on a bus tour in Europe
and it was so crowded you'd be lucky to go 40 mph.

You cannot draw any conclusions from a single visit on a single highway.

I drove through Nashville in the early 1980s on the freeway and it was
so crowded you'd be lucky to go 40mph.

That is true at times in any big city. In DC 95 (and x95) are just
another road.
It is much better down here. You can usually scream through St Pete on
275 but you do get jammed up in Tampa at rush hour east of the rt
60/TPA airport turn off. Fortunately I get off there when I am going
that way.
Florida seems to be better about adding extra lanes before there is a
crisis, at least in the red counties. Over on the South East coast
I-95 is a parking lot for most of the day. They are squandering
billions on a train that will never be high speed and accounts for
more than half of the railway deaths in Florida.
It is what happens when you have stupid people with a dream who forget
this is a surface track with hundreds of grade crossings that runs
through neighborhoods. Most of the pedestrian deaths are not at grade
crossings. People got used to 15 MPH freight trains and think they can
make it when they get hit by a 50 MPH "bullet train". They can't go
much faster than that so it isn't really high speed.

"rbowman" wrote in message
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On 03/25/2021 09:45 PM, %% wrote:


"rbowman" wrote in message
...
On 03/25/2021 01:46 PM, wrote:
On Thursday, March 25, 2021 at 3:40:22 PM UTC-4, wrote:

Reagan may have been the last president I supported most of the time
but he screwed up a lot too. Where is Eisenhower when we need him?

In Heaven, pursuing dangerously liberal ideas, like the interstate
highway
system, desegregation, and Earl Warren.

He did remark before stepping on the rainbow that Warren was the
biggest mistake in his career. That interstate highway thing was a
little something he picked up from the National Socialists when he was
vacationing in Germany.

Nope, he realised the problem in the USA well before that.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inters...ystem#Planning

"Eisenhower also gained an appreciation of the Reichsautobahn system, the
first "national" implementation of modern Germany's Autobahn network, as a
necessary component of a national defense system while he was serving as
Supreme Commander of Allied Forces in Europe during World War II"

You ignored this bit just before that.

"In 1919 the U.S. Army sent an expedition across the U.S. to determine
the difficulties that military vehicles would have on a cross-country trip.
Leaving from the Ellipse near the White House on July 7, the Motor
Transport Corps convoy needed 62 days to drive 3,200 miles (5,100 km)
on the Lincoln Highway to the Presidio army base on San Francisco Bay.
They experienced significant difficulties including rickety bridges, broken
crankshafts, and engines clogged with desert sand.[7]"

"Dwight Eisenhower, then a 28-year-old lieutenant, accompanied the trip
"through darkest America with truck and tank," as he later described it.
Some roads in the West were a "succession of dust, ruts, pits, and holes."
Eisenhower recalled that, "The old convoy had started me thinking about
good two-lane highways... the wisdom of broader ribbons across our land."[7]

"As the landmark 1916 law expired, new legislation was passed€”the Federal
Aid Highway Act of 1921 (Phipps Act). This new road construction initiative
once again provided for federal matching funds for road construction and
improvement, $75 million allocated annually.[8] Moreover, this new
legislation
for the first time sought to target these funds to the construction of a
national
road grid of interconnected "primary highways", setting up cooperation among
the various state highway planning boards.[8]"

That was all long before Adolf had even
thought about any Reichsautobahn system.

My family and I drove from New York State to Seattle in 1952, for the most
part on the Lincoln Highway. It was a little better than Eisenhower's
experience but not much. Coming back on 66 was a bit different.

But was nothing even remotely like the german autobahn system.

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On Fri, 26 Mar 2021 07:47:54 -0600, rbowman posted for all of us to digest...


My family and I drove from New York State to Seattle in 1952, for the
most part on the Lincoln Highway. It was a little better than
Eisenhower's experience but not much. Coming back on 66 was a bit
different.


Ah, you saw the Amish. I bet they didn't wave.

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On Fri, 26 Mar 2021 10:39:11 -0400, Frank "frank wrote:

Speaking of the Autobahn, I was only on it once on a bus tour in Europe
and it was so crowded you'd be lucky to go 40 mph.

I spent 8 years over there and loved almost all of it. One time I was on my
motorcycle, doing 145 mph from Trier to Wittlich on the Autobahn, when a
Porsche 911 came up beside me, wanting to race. I was already maxed out so
I waved him off. A different time my wife and I were driving from
Spangdahlem to Bitburg and my wife asked how fast we were going.
"225", I said.
"Shriek!!"
"Hang on, that's in kilometers. In miles it's only 140."
"Shriek!!"

On 03/26/2021 11:40 AM, %% wrote:
You ignored this bit just before that.

No I didn't ignore it. Are you familiar with the meaning of 'also'?

On 03/26/2021 01:10 PM, Tekkie� wrote:

On Fri, 26 Mar 2021 07:47:54 -0600, rbowman posted for all of us to digest...


My family and I drove from New York State to Seattle in 1952, for the
most part on the Lincoln Highway. It was a little better than
Eisenhower's experience but not much. Coming back on 66 was a bit
different.


Ah, you saw the Amish. I bet they didn't wave.


They have a unique one-fingered wave when you try to run over their
buggies. I saw a lot of them when I was working in Ft. Wayne. The state
came down on them and said they didn't care if the Amish believed in
electricity or not but the buggies damn well would have taillights. I
think kerosene lanterns were acceptable.

One colony split off because pumping water with a windmill was too close
to using tools of the devil. There were also feuds over whether rubber
tires on the buggies was looked on favorably by god.

Then there were the jarring anomalies. I remember one guy in the
traditional garb and everything smoking a cigarette and drinking a can
of Coke. Apparently that was kosher.

On Fri, 26 Mar 2021 12:23:07 -0400, wrote:

On Fri, 26 Mar 2021 02:51:42 -0700 (PDT), "
wrote:

On Thursday, March 25, 2021 at 11:15:23 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Thu, 25 Mar 2021 12:46:18 -0700 (PDT), "
wrote:

On Thursday, March 25, 2021 at 3:40:22 PM UTC-4, wrote:

Reagan may have been the last president I supported most of the time
but he screwed up a lot too. Where is Eisenhower when we need him?

In Heaven, pursuing dangerously liberal ideas, like the interstate highway
system, desegregation, and Earl Warren.

Cindy Hamilton
The difference was when Eisenhower proposed the Interstate Highway
system he put into place a user fee (gasoline tax) to pay for it.
Since then some democrats have seen fit to raid that tax base to build
railroads to nowhere and subsidize public transportation systems that
paid their own way, even making a modest profit in his time.
Those are also the places with crumbling roads and falling down
bridges. Imagine that.

It's always easier to raise money for sexy projects like new freeways
or bridges than to raise money for boring stuff like maintenance.

Cindy Hamilton

They had the money, they just put it into public transit instead of
roads. Public transit should charge fares that reflect the real cost,
not steal money from other programs.
Unfortunately those people are not willing to pay that. They always
want someone else to pay.

I rarely use public transport but I'm very happy to subsidize it so that
others can afford to use it. Every car off the streets makes it easier for
me to get around. IMO, they should lower the cost to zero to encourage even
more usage.

On 3/26/2021 9:56 PM, rbowman wrote:

Ah, you saw the Amish. I bet they didn't wave.


They have a unique one-fingered wave when you try to run over their
buggies. I saw a lot of them when I was working in Ft. Wayne. The state
came down on them and said they didn't care if the Amish believed in
electricity or not but the buggies damn well would have taillights. I
think kerosene lanterns were acceptable.

One colony split off because pumping water with a windmill was too close
to using tools of the devil. There were also feuds over whether rubber
tires on the buggies was looked on favorably by god.

Then there were the jarring anomalies. I remember one guy in the
traditional garb and everything smoking a cigarette and drinking a can
of Coke. Apparently that was kosher.



In PA we also had the Black Bumper Mennonites. They are similar to the
Amish but drove cars. They could not have chrome though so the bumpers
were painted black.

"rbowman" wrote in message
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On 03/26/2021 11:40 AM, %% wrote:
You ignored this bit just before that.

No I didn't ignore it. Are you familiar with the meaning of 'also'?

Its irrelevant to what is being discussed given that
Ike had supported a national highway scheme
long before there was ever any autobahn scheme.

On Fri, 26 Mar 2021 19:56:25 -0600, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:


They have a unique one-fingered wave when you try to run over their
buggies. I saw a lot of them when I was

Oh, no! Now the gossiping starts... LOL

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On Fri, 26 Mar 2021 21:10:43 -0500, Jim Joyce
wrote:

On Fri, 26 Mar 2021 12:23:07 -0400, wrote:

On Fri, 26 Mar 2021 02:51:42 -0700 (PDT), "
wrote:

On Thursday, March 25, 2021 at 11:15:23 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Thu, 25 Mar 2021 12:46:18 -0700 (PDT), "
wrote:

On Thursday, March 25, 2021 at 3:40:22 PM UTC-4, wrote:

Reagan may have been the last president I supported most of the time
but he screwed up a lot too. Where is Eisenhower when we need him?

In Heaven, pursuing dangerously liberal ideas, like the interstate highway
system, desegregation, and Earl Warren.

Cindy Hamilton
The difference was when Eisenhower proposed the Interstate Highway
system he put into place a user fee (gasoline tax) to pay for it.
Since then some democrats have seen fit to raid that tax base to build
railroads to nowhere and subsidize public transportation systems that
paid their own way, even making a modest profit in his time.
Those are also the places with crumbling roads and falling down
bridges. Imagine that.

It's always easier to raise money for sexy projects like new freeways
or bridges than to raise money for boring stuff like maintenance.

Cindy Hamilton

They had the money, they just put it into public transit instead of
roads. Public transit should charge fares that reflect the real cost,
not steal money from other programs.
Unfortunately those people are not willing to pay that. They always
want someone else to pay.

I rarely use public transport but I'm very happy to subsidize it so that
others can afford to use it. Every car off the streets makes it easier for
me to get around. IMO, they should lower the cost to zero to encourage even
more usage.

Sure, no doubt. You are a democrat. Nobody pays for anything, the
government deals with it.

On Sat, 27 Mar 2021 13:53:43 +1100, "%%" wrote:



"rbowman" wrote in message
...
On 03/26/2021 11:40 AM, %% wrote:
You ignored this bit just before that.

No I didn't ignore it. Are you familiar with the meaning of 'also'?

Its irrelevant to what is being discussed given that
Ike had supported a national highway scheme
long before there was ever any autobahn scheme.

The difference is before he saw the Autobahn, his dream was a 2 lane
blacktop.

You take US Rt 41. I will take I-75.

wrote in message
...
On Sat, 27 Mar 2021 13:53:43 +1100, "%%" wrote:



"rbowman" wrote in message
...
On 03/26/2021 11:40 AM, %% wrote:
You ignored this bit just before that.

No I didn't ignore it. Are you familiar with the meaning of 'also'?

Its irrelevant to what is being discussed given that
Ike had supported a national highway scheme
long before there was ever any autobahn scheme.

The difference is before he saw the Autobahn, his dream was a 2 lane
blacktop.

But the USA never had anything like an autobahn.

You take US Rt 41. I will take I-75.

On Sun, 28 Mar 2021 00:43:25 -0400, wrote:

On Fri, 26 Mar 2021 21:10:43 -0500, Jim Joyce
wrote:

On Fri, 26 Mar 2021 12:23:07 -0400, wrote:

On Fri, 26 Mar 2021 02:51:42 -0700 (PDT), "
wrote:

On Thursday, March 25, 2021 at 11:15:23 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Thu, 25 Mar 2021 12:46:18 -0700 (PDT), "
wrote:

On Thursday, March 25, 2021 at 3:40:22 PM UTC-4, wrote:

Reagan may have been the last president I supported most of the time
but he screwed up a lot too. Where is Eisenhower when we need him?

In Heaven, pursuing dangerously liberal ideas, like the interstate highway
system, desegregation, and Earl Warren.

Cindy Hamilton
The difference was when Eisenhower proposed the Interstate Highway
system he put into place a user fee (gasoline tax) to pay for it.
Since then some democrats have seen fit to raid that tax base to build
railroads to nowhere and subsidize public transportation systems that
paid their own way, even making a modest profit in his time.
Those are also the places with crumbling roads and falling down
bridges. Imagine that.

It's always easier to raise money for sexy projects like new freeways
or bridges than to raise money for boring stuff like maintenance.

Cindy Hamilton

They had the money, they just put it into public transit instead of
roads. Public transit should charge fares that reflect the real cost,
not steal money from other programs.
Unfortunately those people are not willing to pay that. They always
want someone else to pay.

I rarely use public transport but I'm very happy to subsidize it so that
others can afford to use it. Every car off the streets makes it easier for
me to get around. IMO, they should lower the cost to zero to encourage even
more usage.

Sure, no doubt. You are a democrat. Nobody pays for anything, the
government deals with it.

That bit of idiocy aside, I thought I made it fairly clear that I'm willing
to have my tax money used to subsidize public transportation because, in
the bigger picture, I think it's good for society.

Maybe tie that knee down so it stops jerking.

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trolling senile geezer Rodent Speed, wrote:

The difference is before he saw the Autobahn, his dream was a 2 lane
blacktop.

But the USA never had anything like an autobahn.

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On 28/03/2021 06:55, Jim Joyce wrote:
On Sun, 28 Mar 2021 00:43:25 -0400, wrote:

On Fri, 26 Mar 2021 21:10:43 -0500, Jim Joyce
wrote:

On Fri, 26 Mar 2021 12:23:07 -0400, wrote:

On Fri, 26 Mar 2021 02:51:42 -0700 (PDT), "
wrote:

On Thursday, March 25, 2021 at 11:15:23 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Thu, 25 Mar 2021 12:46:18 -0700 (PDT), "
wrote:

On Thursday, March 25, 2021 at 3:40:22 PM UTC-4, wrote:

Reagan may have been the last president I supported most of the time
but he screwed up a lot too. Where is Eisenhower when we need him?

In Heaven, pursuing dangerously liberal ideas, like the interstate highway
system, desegregation, and Earl Warren.

Cindy Hamilton
The difference was when Eisenhower proposed the Interstate Highway
system he put into place a user fee (gasoline tax) to pay for it.
Since then some democrats have seen fit to raid that tax base to build
railroads to nowhere and subsidize public transportation systems that
paid their own way, even making a modest profit in his time.
Those are also the places with crumbling roads and falling down
bridges. Imagine that.

It's always easier to raise money for sexy projects like new freeways
or bridges than to raise money for boring stuff like maintenance.

Cindy Hamilton

They had the money, they just put it into public transit instead of
roads. Public transit should charge fares that reflect the real cost,
not steal money from other programs.
Unfortunately those people are not willing to pay that. They always
want someone else to pay.

I rarely use public transport but I'm very happy to subsidize it so that
others can afford to use it. Every car off the streets makes it easier for
me to get around. IMO, they should lower the cost to zero to encourage even
more usage.

Sure, no doubt. You are a democrat. Nobody pays for anything, the
government deals with it.

That bit of idiocy aside, I thought I made it fairly clear that I'm willing
to have my tax money used to subsidize public transportation because, in
the bigger picture, I think it's good for society.

Maybe tie that knee down so it stops jerking.

+1

On Sun, 28 Mar 2021 00:55:57 -0500, Jim Joyce
wrote:

On Sun, 28 Mar 2021 00:43:25 -0400, wrote:

On Fri, 26 Mar 2021 21:10:43 -0500, Jim Joyce
wrote:

On Fri, 26 Mar 2021 12:23:07 -0400, wrote:

On Fri, 26 Mar 2021 02:51:42 -0700 (PDT), "
wrote:

On Thursday, March 25, 2021 at 11:15:23 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Thu, 25 Mar 2021 12:46:18 -0700 (PDT), "
wrote:

On Thursday, March 25, 2021 at 3:40:22 PM UTC-4, wrote:

Reagan may have been the last president I supported most of the time
but he screwed up a lot too. Where is Eisenhower when we need him?

In Heaven, pursuing dangerously liberal ideas, like the interstate highway
system, desegregation, and Earl Warren.

Cindy Hamilton
The difference was when Eisenhower proposed the Interstate Highway
system he put into place a user fee (gasoline tax) to pay for it.
Since then some democrats have seen fit to raid that tax base to build
railroads to nowhere and subsidize public transportation systems that
paid their own way, even making a modest profit in his time.
Those are also the places with crumbling roads and falling down
bridges. Imagine that.

It's always easier to raise money for sexy projects like new freeways
or bridges than to raise money for boring stuff like maintenance.

Cindy Hamilton

They had the money, they just put it into public transit instead of
roads. Public transit should charge fares that reflect the real cost,
not steal money from other programs.
Unfortunately those people are not willing to pay that. They always
want someone else to pay.

I rarely use public transport but I'm very happy to subsidize it so that
others can afford to use it. Every car off the streets makes it easier for
me to get around. IMO, they should lower the cost to zero to encourage even
more usage.

Sure, no doubt. You are a democrat. Nobody pays for anything, the
government deals with it.

That bit of idiocy aside, I thought I made it fairly clear that I'm willing
to have my tax money used to subsidize public transportation because, in
the bigger picture, I think it's good for society.

Maybe tie that knee down so it stops jerking.

Maybe the people in the cities where this mass transit is going should
be paying. I am still not sure why a free ride is good for society
tho. These companies used to actually make a business out of this and
pay their own way.
Now it is just a big welfare program and a lot of the time these new
services are barely used. When they built the DC Metro (subway) it was
years before there was a significant commuter usage. People would
drive to work and use the Metro to go to lunch. I assume that changed
somewhat but they still built a lot of new roads downtown since I
moved away and they had the place torn up building more. Someone is
still driving.

On Sun, 28 Mar 2021 14:35:55 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 28 Mar 2021 00:55:57 -0500, Jim Joyce
wrote:

On Sun, 28 Mar 2021 00:43:25 -0400, wrote:

On Fri, 26 Mar 2021 21:10:43 -0500, Jim Joyce
wrote:

On Fri, 26 Mar 2021 12:23:07 -0400, wrote:

On Fri, 26 Mar 2021 02:51:42 -0700 (PDT), "
wrote:

On Thursday, March 25, 2021 at 11:15:23 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Thu, 25 Mar 2021 12:46:18 -0700 (PDT), "
wrote:

On Thursday, March 25, 2021 at 3:40:22 PM UTC-4, wrote:

Reagan may have been the last president I supported most of the time
but he screwed up a lot too. Where is Eisenhower when we need him?

In Heaven, pursuing dangerously liberal ideas, like the interstate highway
system, desegregation, and Earl Warren.

Cindy Hamilton
The difference was when Eisenhower proposed the Interstate Highway
system he put into place a user fee (gasoline tax) to pay for it.
Since then some democrats have seen fit to raid that tax base to build
railroads to nowhere and subsidize public transportation systems that
paid their own way, even making a modest profit in his time.
Those are also the places with crumbling roads and falling down
bridges. Imagine that.

It's always easier to raise money for sexy projects like new freeways
or bridges than to raise money for boring stuff like maintenance.

Cindy Hamilton

They had the money, they just put it into public transit instead of
roads. Public transit should charge fares that reflect the real cost,
not steal money from other programs.
Unfortunately those people are not willing to pay that. They always
want someone else to pay.

I rarely use public transport but I'm very happy to subsidize it so that
others can afford to use it. Every car off the streets makes it easier for
me to get around. IMO, they should lower the cost to zero to encourage even
more usage.

Sure, no doubt. You are a democrat. Nobody pays for anything, the
government deals with it.

That bit of idiocy aside, I thought I made it fairly clear that I'm willing
to have my tax money used to subsidize public transportation because, in
the bigger picture, I think it's good for society.

Maybe tie that knee down so it stops jerking.

Maybe the people in the cities where this mass transit is going should
be paying. I am still not sure why a free ride is good for society
tho.

Yes, I know. That much was obvious from the start. It hasn't stopped you,
or even slowed you down.

On Mon, 29 Mar 2021 01:42:56 -0500, Jim Joyce
wrote:

On Sun, 28 Mar 2021 14:35:55 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 28 Mar 2021 00:55:57 -0500, Jim Joyce
wrote:

On Sun, 28 Mar 2021 00:43:25 -0400, wrote:

On Fri, 26 Mar 2021 21:10:43 -0500, Jim Joyce
wrote:

On Fri, 26 Mar 2021 12:23:07 -0400, wrote:

On Fri, 26 Mar 2021 02:51:42 -0700 (PDT), "
wrote:

On Thursday, March 25, 2021 at 11:15:23 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Thu, 25 Mar 2021 12:46:18 -0700 (PDT), "
wrote:

On Thursday, March 25, 2021 at 3:40:22 PM UTC-4, wrote:

Reagan may have been the last president I supported most of the time
but he screwed up a lot too. Where is Eisenhower when we need him?

In Heaven, pursuing dangerously liberal ideas, like the interstate highway
system, desegregation, and Earl Warren.

Cindy Hamilton
The difference was when Eisenhower proposed the Interstate Highway
system he put into place a user fee (gasoline tax) to pay for it.
Since then some democrats have seen fit to raid that tax base to build
railroads to nowhere and subsidize public transportation systems that
paid their own way, even making a modest profit in his time.
Those are also the places with crumbling roads and falling down
bridges. Imagine that.

It's always easier to raise money for sexy projects like new freeways
or bridges than to raise money for boring stuff like maintenance.

Cindy Hamilton

They had the money, they just put it into public transit instead of
roads. Public transit should charge fares that reflect the real cost,
not steal money from other programs.
Unfortunately those people are not willing to pay that. They always
want someone else to pay.

I rarely use public transport but I'm very happy to subsidize it so that
others can afford to use it. Every car off the streets makes it easier for
me to get around. IMO, they should lower the cost to zero to encourage even
more usage.

Sure, no doubt. You are a democrat. Nobody pays for anything, the
government deals with it.

That bit of idiocy aside, I thought I made it fairly clear that I'm willing
to have my tax money used to subsidize public transportation because, in
the bigger picture, I think it's good for society.

Maybe tie that knee down so it stops jerking.

Maybe the people in the cities where this mass transit is going should
be paying. I am still not sure why a free ride is good for society
tho.

Yes, I know. That much was obvious from the start. It hasn't stopped you,
or even slowed you down.


A non answer answer.
I ask again
How does a guy making $40k a year out in flyover land benefit from
subsidizing mass transit it a city with more millionaires per square
mile than anywhere else in the country?
It is no coincidence that the places that raid the gasoline tax fund
to subsidize mass transit have the worst roads.

On Monday, March 29, 2021 at 10:10:49 AM UTC-4, wrote:

How does a guy making $40k a year out in flyover land benefit from
subsidizing mass transit it a city with more millionaires per square
mile than anywhere else in the country?

Shoot, that's an easy one to answer.

The $40k guy subsidizes urban mass transit so the users of that mass
transit will be happy where they are and not attempt to move to flyover
country in search of a place where they can afford to own a car.

Cindy Hamilton

On Friday, March 26, 2021 at 4:51:45 AM UTC-5, wrote:
On Thursday, March 25, 2021 at 11:15:23 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Thu, 25 Mar 2021 12:46:18 -0700 (PDT), "
wrote:

On Thursday, March 25, 2021 at 3:40:22 PM UTC-4, wrote:

Reagan may have been the last president I supported most of the time
but he screwed up a lot too. Where is Eisenhower when we need him?

In Heaven, pursuing dangerously liberal ideas, like the interstate highway
system, desegregation, and Earl Warren.

Cindy Hamilton
The difference was when Eisenhower proposed the Interstate Highway
system he put into place a user fee (gasoline tax) to pay for it.
Since then some democrats have seen fit to raid that tax base to build
railroads to nowhere and subsidize public transportation systems that
paid their own way, even making a modest profit in his time.
Those are also the places with crumbling roads and falling down
bridges. Imagine that.
It's always easier to raise money for sexy projects like new freeways
or bridges than to raise money for boring stuff like maintenance.

Cindy Hamilton

taxes need a good salesman

Like Jeffrey Epstein

weird as it seems, and as disgusting as he was, people kept giving him money for his ponzi schemes

taxes need to be sold by a hustler, but without the pedophilia


marika
Mar 20, 2021, 2:56 AM (9 days ago)
to me

€œAccording to testimony in Parliament by British MP George Galloway, Leese was a middleman who handled some of the secret commissions for a dubious multibillion-pound deal with the Saudi royal family.
€œ[Epsteins] a genius,€� Hoffenberg said Leese told him. €œHes great at selling securities. And he has no moral compass.€�33
To Hoffenberg, who went prison for a $450 million Ponzi scheme, that last attribute was an especially desirable trait. Epstein had everything Hoffenberg could want.
Released in 2013 after spending eighteen years in federal prison, Hoffenberg told the Washington Post that the entire scam was actually engineered by Epstein, who escaped unscathed and uncharged. €œJeffrey was the best hustler on two feet,€� he said. €œTalent, charisma, genius, criminal mastermind.€�
€œHes got a gift thats extraordinary, where he controls the people he meets and manipulates them totally with his charisma,€� Hoffenberg says on the four-part Netflix documentary Jeffrey Epstein: Filthy Rich. €œYou cant grasp the magnitude of this mans controlling effect.€�
Hoffenbergs allegations have not been fully corroborated, but he made similar charges in a 2018 lawsuit, in which he alleged that he and Epstein operated €œa classic Ponzi scheme from the late 1980s to mid-1990s[€¦]€�

Excerpt From
American Kompromat
Craig Unger

On Monday, March 29, 2021 at 2:30:48 PM UTC-5, marika wrote:
On Friday, March 26, 2021 at 4:51:45 AM UTC-5, wrote:
On Thursday, March 25, 2021 at 11:15:23 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Thu, 25 Mar 2021 12:46:18 -0700 (PDT), "
wrote:

On Thursday, March 25, 2021 at 3:40:22 PM UTC-4, wrote:

Reagan may have been the last president I supported most of the time
but he screwed up a lot too. Where is Eisenhower when we need him?

In Heaven, pursuing dangerously liberal ideas, like the interstate highway
system, desegregation, and Earl Warren.

Cindy Hamilton
The difference was when Eisenhower proposed the Interstate Highway
system he put into place a user fee (gasoline tax) to pay for it.
Since then some democrats have seen fit to raid that tax base to build
railroads to nowhere and subsidize public transportation systems that
paid their own way, even making a modest profit in his time.
Those are also the places with crumbling roads and falling down
bridges. Imagine that.
It's always easier to raise money for sexy projects like new freeways
or bridges than to raise money for boring stuff like maintenance.

Cindy Hamilton
taxes need a good salesman

Like Jeffrey Epstein

weird as it seems, and as disgusting as he was, people kept giving him money for his ponzi schemes

taxes need to be sold by a hustler, but without the pedophilia


marika
Mar 20, 2021, 2:56 AM (9 days ago)
to me

€œAccording to testimony in Parliament by British MP George Galloway, Leese was a middleman who handled some of the secret commissions for a dubious multibillion-pound deal with the Saudi royal family.
€œ[Epsteins] a genius,€� Hoffenberg said Leese told him. €œHes great at selling securities. And he has no moral compass.€�33
To Hoffenberg, who went prison for a $450 million Ponzi scheme, that last attribute was an especially desirable trait. Epstein had everything Hoffenberg could want.
Released in 2013 after spending eighteen years in federal prison, Hoffenberg told the Washington Post that the entire scam was actually engineered by Epstein, who escaped unscathed and uncharged. €œJeffrey was the best hustler on two feet,€� he said. €œTalent, charisma, genius, criminal mastermind.€�
€œHes got a gift thats extraordinary, where he controls the people he meets and manipulates them totally with his charisma,€� Hoffenberg says on the four-part Netflix documentary Jeffrey Epstein: Filthy Rich. €œYou cant grasp the magnitude of this mans controlling effect.€�
Hoffenbergs allegations have not been fully corroborated, but he made similar charges in a 2018 lawsuit, in which he alleged that he and Epstein operated €œa classic Ponzi scheme from the late 1980s to mid-1990s[€¦]€�

Excerpt From
American Kompromat
Craig Unge

Biden is not a great salesman, his talents lie elsewhere

Buttigieg is also not a great salesman

Trump can be a great salesman when he wants
He has fleeced so many people over the decades and continues to do even now, extracting money from suckers with his latest reincarnation of maga pac

He squandered four years, making infrastructure week a sales pitch fir any week where he needed diversionary tactics

He could have got a good infrastructure program and got wealthy concerns to pay for it

He was jyst lazy

Good infrastructure, whether urban trains or rural highways are good for everyone, including wall street

Good public transport gets workers to work with products that benefit everyone in the nation, from software programs , to factories that make clothes and process food, to accessible schools that then send informed students all over the country

Anyway looks like secretary pete is not selling the tax right now

https://twitter.com/therecount/statu...496450050?s=21

On Mon, 29 Mar 2021 07:24:37 -0700 (PDT), "
wrote:

On Monday, March 29, 2021 at 10:10:49 AM UTC-4, wrote:

How does a guy making $40k a year out in flyover land benefit from
subsidizing mass transit it a city with more millionaires per square
mile than anywhere else in the country?

Shoot, that's an easy one to answer.

The $40k guy subsidizes urban mass transit so the users of that mass
transit will be happy where they are and not attempt to move to flyover
country in search of a place where they can afford to own a car.

Cindy Hamilton

Just send them a DVD of Deliverance.

"m syadoz" wrote in message
...
On Monday, March 29, 2021 at 2:30:48 PM UTC-5, marika wrote:
On Friday, March 26, 2021 at 4:51:45 AM UTC-5,
wrote:
On Thursday, March 25, 2021 at 11:15:23 PM UTC-4,
wrote:
On Thu, 25 Mar 2021 12:46:18 -0700 (PDT), "
wrote:

On Thursday, March 25, 2021 at 3:40:22 PM UTC-4,
wrote:

Reagan may have been the last president I supported most of the
time
but he screwed up a lot too. Where is Eisenhower when we need him?

In Heaven, pursuing dangerously liberal ideas, like the interstate
highway
system, desegregation, and Earl Warren.

Cindy Hamilton
The difference was when Eisenhower proposed the Interstate Highway
system he put into place a user fee (gasoline tax) to pay for it.
Since then some democrats have seen fit to raid that tax base to
build
railroads to nowhere and subsidize public transportation systems that
paid their own way, even making a modest profit in his time.
Those are also the places with crumbling roads and falling down
bridges. Imagine that.
It's always easier to raise money for sexy projects like new freeways
or bridges than to raise money for boring stuff like maintenance.

Cindy Hamilton
taxes need a good salesman

Like Jeffrey Epstein

weird as it seems, and as disgusting as he was, people kept giving him
money for his ponzi schemes

taxes need to be sold by a hustler, but without the pedophilia


marika
Mar 20, 2021, 2:56 AM (9 days ago)
to me

€œAccording to testimony in Parliament by British MP George Galloway,
Leese was a middleman who handled some of the secret commissions for a
dubious multibillion-pound deal with the Saudi royal family.
€œ[Epsteins] a genius,€� Hoffenberg said Leese told him. €œHes great at
selling securities. And he has no moral compass.€�33
To Hoffenberg, who went prison for a $450 million Ponzi scheme, that last
attribute was an especially desirable trait. Epstein had everything
Hoffenberg could want.
Released in 2013 after spending eighteen years in federal prison,
Hoffenberg told the Washington Post that the entire scam was actually
engineered by Epstein, who escaped unscathed and uncharged. €œJeffrey was
the best hustler on two feet,€� he said. €œTalent, charisma, genius,
criminal mastermind.€�
€œHes got a gift thats extraordinary, where he controls the people he
meets and manipulates them totally with his charisma,€� Hoffenberg says on
the four-part Netflix documentary Jeffrey Epstein: Filthy Rich. €œYou cant
grasp the magnitude of this mans controlling effect.€�
Hoffenbergs allegations have not been fully corroborated, but he made
similar charges in a 2018 lawsuit, in which he alleged that he and
Epstein operated €œa classic Ponzi scheme from the late 1980s to
mid-1990s[€¦]€�

Excerpt From
American Kompromat
Craig Unge

Biden is not a great salesman, his talents lie elsewhere

Not convinced that he has any real talents except
for hanging in there when the **** hits the fan.

Buttigieg is also not a great salesman

Yeah, the only way to get something like that thru is by stealth.

Trump can be a great salesman when he wants

Yep, he clearly got roughly half of those who bother
to vote to believe that the sun shine out of his arse.

But has also managed to get most of the other
half to decide that he is a useless clown.

He has fleeced so many people over the decades
and continues to do even now, extracting money
from suckers with his latest reincarnation of maga pac

Essentially because those actually are that stupid.

He squandered four years, making infrastructure week a sales
pitch fir any week where he needed diversionary tactics

He could have got a good infrastructure program
and got wealthy concerns to pay for it

Not convinced about that.

He was jyst lazy

And completely incompetent, and stupid.

Good infrastructure, whether urban trains or rural
highways are good for everyone, including wall street

But very expensive, so hard to get done.

Good public transport gets workers to work
with products that benefit everyone in the nation,
from software programs , to factories that make
clothes and process food, to accessible schools that
then send informed students all over the country

But no prez has any real effect on any of that.

A few do manage to tweak some useful change
like Ike's national highway scheme etc, but the
rest of it isnt due to any prez, it all happens due
to much more fundamental drivers.

Anyway looks like secretary pete is not selling the tax right now

Likely because of the reaction he got.

https://twitter.com/therecount/statu...496450050?s=21

On Monday, March 29, 2021 at 3:42:36 PM UTC-5, m syadoz wrote:
On Monday, March 29, 2021 at 2:30:48 PM UTC-5, marika wrote:
On Friday, March 26, 2021 at 4:51:45 AM UTC-5, wrote:
On Thursday, March 25, 2021 at 11:15:23 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Thu, 25 Mar 2021 12:46:18 -0700 (PDT), "
wrote:

On Thursday, March 25, 2021 at 3:40:22 PM UTC-4, wrote:

Reagan may have been the last president I supported most of the time
but he screwed up a lot too. Where is Eisenhower when we need him?

In Heaven, pursuing dangerously liberal ideas, like the interstate highway
system, desegregation, and Earl Warren.

Cindy Hamilton
The difference was when Eisenhower proposed the Interstate Highway
system he put into place a user fee (gasoline tax) to pay for it.
Since then some democrats have seen fit to raid that tax base to build
railroads to nowhere and subsidize public transportation systems that
paid their own way, even making a modest profit in his time.
Those are also the places with crumbling roads and falling down
bridges. Imagine that.
It's always easier to raise money for sexy projects like new freeways
or bridges than to raise money for boring stuff like maintenance.

Cindy Hamilton
taxes need a good salesman

Like Jeffrey Epstein

weird as it seems, and as disgusting as he was, people kept giving him money for his ponzi schemes

taxes need to be sold by a hustler, but without the pedophilia


marika
Mar 20, 2021, 2:56 AM (9 days ago)
to me

€œAccording to testimony in Parliament by British MP George Galloway, Leese was a middleman who handled some of the secret commissions for a dubious multibillion-pound deal with the Saudi royal family.
€œ[Epsteins] a genius,€� Hoffenberg said Leese told him. €œHes great at selling securities. And he has no moral compass.€�33
To Hoffenberg, who went prison for a $450 million Ponzi scheme, that last attribute was an especially desirable trait. Epstein had everything Hoffenberg could want.
Released in 2013 after spending eighteen years in federal prison, Hoffenberg told the Washington Post that the entire scam was actually engineered by Epstein, who escaped unscathed and uncharged. €œJeffrey was the best hustler on two feet,€� he said. €œTalent, charisma, genius, criminal mastermind.€�
€œHes got a gift thats extraordinary, where he controls the people he meets and manipulates them totally with his charisma,€� Hoffenberg says on the four-part Netflix documentary Jeffrey Epstein: Filthy Rich. €œYou cant grasp the magnitude of this mans controlling effect.€�
Hoffenbergs allegations have not been fully corroborated, but he made similar charges in a 2018 lawsuit, in which he alleged that he and Epstein operated €œa classic Ponzi scheme from the late 1980s to mid-1990s[€¦]€�

Excerpt From
American Kompromat
Craig Unge
Biden is not a great salesman, his talents lie elsewhere

Buttigieg is also not a great salesman

Trump can be a great salesman when he wants


New York times today reports

Ghislaine Maxwell Charged With Sex Trafficking of 14-Year-Old Girl
A new indictment accuses Ms. Maxwell of paying a victim of her longtime associate Jeffrey Epstein.

Finally

On Tue, 30 Mar 2021 08:54:04 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:

FLUSH the trolling senile asshole's latest troll**** unread

08:54 am in Australia? LOL And you are STILL up and trolling, you abnormal,
miserable, senile troll? LOL

--
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On Tue, 30 Mar 2021 08:54:04 +1100, "Rod Speed"
wrote:

Buttigieg is also not a great salesman

Yeah, the only way to get something like that thru is by stealth

Is that another "Greek in sneakers joke"?

On Friday, March 26, 2021 at 9:10:48 PM UTC-5, Jim Joyce wrote:
On Fri, 26 Mar 2021 12:23:07 -0400, wrote:

On Fri, 26 Mar 2021 02:51:42 -0700 (PDT), "
wrote:

On Thursday, March 25, 2021 at 11:15:23 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Thu, 25 Mar 2021 12:46:18 -0700 (PDT), "
wrote:

On Thursday, March 25, 2021 at 3:40:22 PM UTC-4, wrote:

Reagan may have been the last president I supported most of the time
but he screwed up a lot too. Where is Eisenhower when we need him?

In Heaven, pursuing dangerously liberal ideas, like the interstate highway
system, desegregation, and Earl Warren.

Cindy Hamilton
The difference was when Eisenhower proposed the Interstate Highway
system he put into place a user fee (gasoline tax) to pay for it.
Since then some democrats have seen fit to raid that tax base to build
railroads to nowhere and subsidize public transportation systems that
paid their own way, even making a modest profit in his time.
Those are also the places with crumbling roads and falling down
bridges. Imagine that.

It's always easier to raise money for sexy projects like new freeways
or bridges than to raise money for boring stuff like maintenance.

Cindy Hamilton

They had the money, they just put it into public transit instead of
roads. Public transit should charge fares that reflect the real cost,
not steal money from other programs.
Unfortunately those people are not willing to pay that. They always
want someone else to pay.
I rarely use public transport but I'm very happy to subsidize it so that
others can afford to use it. Every car off the streets makes it easier for
me to get around. IMO, they should lower the cost to zero to encourage even
more usage.

In DC when it gets a certain temperature that impacts oxygen and ozone, public transportation is free/

This is meant to discourage automobile use, which contributes to poor air quality. The metro is electric and the buses run on natural gas.

If even they have concerns, they should be taken seriously....

but it never seemed to me that the roads were any less crowded on those days

which is a shame since their buses and metro are really clean and comfortable

mk5000

If Aragorn survives this war, you will still be parted. If Sauron is defeated and Aragorn made king and all that you hope for comes true you will still have to taste the bitterness of mortality. Whether by the sword or the slow decay of time, Aragorn will die. And there will be no comfort for you, no comfort to ease the pain of his passing.--The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers

On Sunday, March 28, 2021 at 12:23:39 AM UTC-5, %% wrote:
wrote in message
...
On Sat, 27 Mar 2021 13:53:43 +1100, "%%" wrote:



"rbowman" wrote in message
...
On 03/26/2021 11:40 AM, %% wrote:
You ignored this bit just before that.

No I didn't ignore it. Are you familiar with the meaning of 'also'?

Its irrelevant to what is being discussed given that
Ike had supported a national highway scheme
long before there was ever any autobahn scheme.

The difference is before he saw the Autobahn, his dream was a 2 lane
blacktop.
But the USA never had anything like an autobahn.
You take US Rt 41. I will take I-75.

but it does have Zumwalt destroyers,

priorities

one of which broke down in the Panama canal 2016
http://www.realcleardefense.com/2015...ne_276900.html

On Monday, March 29, 2021 at 4:54:18 PM UTC-5, Rod Speed wrote:
"m syadoz" wrote in message
...
On Monday, March 29, 2021 at 2:30:48 PM UTC-5, marika wrote:
On Friday, March 26, 2021 at 4:51:45 AM UTC-5,
wrote:
On Thursday, March 25, 2021 at 11:15:23 PM UTC-4,
wrote:
On Thu, 25 Mar 2021 12:46:18 -0700 (PDT), "
wrote:

On Thursday, March 25, 2021 at 3:40:22 PM UTC-4,
wrote:

Reagan may have been the last president I supported most of the
time
but he screwed up a lot too. Where is Eisenhower when we need him?

In Heaven, pursuing dangerously liberal ideas, like the interstate
highway
system, desegregation, and Earl Warren.

Cindy Hamilton
The difference was when Eisenhower proposed the Interstate Highway
system he put into place a user fee (gasoline tax) to pay for it.
Since then some democrats have seen fit to raid that tax base to
build
railroads to nowhere and subsidize public transportation systems that
paid their own way, even making a modest profit in his time.
Those are also the places with crumbling roads and falling down
bridges. Imagine that.
It's always easier to raise money for sexy projects like new freeways
or bridges than to raise money for boring stuff like maintenance.

Cindy Hamilton
taxes need a good salesman

Like Jeffrey Epstein

weird as it seems, and as disgusting as he was, people kept giving him
money for his ponzi schemes

taxes need to be sold by a hustler, but without the pedophilia


marika
Mar 20, 2021, 2:56 AM (9 days ago)
to me

€œAccording to testimony in Parliament by British MP George Galloway,
Leese was a middleman who handled some of the secret commissions for a
dubious multibillion-pound deal with the Saudi royal family.
€œ[Epsteins] a genius,€� Hoffenberg said Leese told him. €œHes great at
selling securities. And he has no moral compass.€�33
To Hoffenberg, who went prison for a $450 million Ponzi scheme, that last
attribute was an especially desirable trait. Epstein had everything
Hoffenberg could want.
Released in 2013 after spending eighteen years in federal prison,
Hoffenberg told the Washington Post that the entire scam was actually
engineered by Epstein, who escaped unscathed and uncharged. €œJeffrey was
the best hustler on two feet,€� he said. €œTalent, charisma, genius,
criminal mastermind.€�
€œHes got a gift thats extraordinary, where he controls the people he
meets and manipulates them totally with his charisma,€� Hoffenberg says on
the four-part Netflix documentary Jeffrey Epstein: Filthy Rich. €œYou cant
grasp the magnitude of this mans controlling effect.€�
Hoffenbergs allegations have not been fully corroborated, but he made
similar charges in a 2018 lawsuit, in which he alleged that he and
Epstein operated €œa classic Ponzi scheme from the late 1980s to
mid-1990s[€¦]€�

Excerpt From
American Kompromat
Craig Unge

Biden is not a great salesman, his talents lie elsewhere
Not convinced that he has any real talents except
for hanging in there when the **** hits the fan.

I believe he does have talent necessary for making deals more so than Trump

I am still hopeful that he can make more inroads in the middle east and with Russia and North Korea and Turkey than Trump did (which was nothing)

But it remains a problem that Putin double deals playing one side against the other by supporting Daesh, Isis, Al Qaeda, and finances terrorism while secretly pretending to work with the other side

I am sure that Biden knows how untrustworthy Putin is, and as such he does not possess the naivete Trump had about Putin. As risible as Hillary's reset button was, Trump's attempts at Putin reset were pathetic

i know both erdogan and putin are corrupt but with kasparov saying this:

http://www.dailysabah.com/politics/2...eader-kasparov